Lightning Invoker Monk Update - Falling Thunder SAVED - Path of Exile 2
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The Falling Thunder Invoker Monk that i thought got annihilated by the Patch 0.1.0d is alive and well thanks to some tech from @snoobae8553. We're now a hybrid damage monk with Cold and Lightning Damage to capitalize on Cast on Freeze or Elemental Invocation. This massively enhances the build allowing us to allow use Herald of Ice!
Maxroll Guide currently being updated to reflect this video.
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Edit: IMPORTANT NOTES / FAQ:
Currently working on the levelling guide
If you’re earlier on in progression and only have a 4 link, Use Storm Wave, Cold Infuson, Ice Bite and Martial Temp it’s a big difference
180 Spirit is required, 100 from the Campaign and 80 from your chest via the Ascendancy Node
Quality is most important on Falling Thunder and Tempest Flurry
Links shown are most important from Left to Right on the Builder (Everything is mandatory except the 6 links)
6 Link Tempest Flurry is not mandatory but helps tremendously with mana
Always refer to the Skill Tree in the builder as i can't retroactively change the footage but can update the planner if necessary
Against Pinnacle Bosses, respec to resonance and use Hand of Chayula + Snipers Mark
If you exceed 50% crit, drop the top left crit wheel and take the Dynamisn Energy wheel.
Thanks for watching!
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@@macborek you need to activate the invocation mate, it sotres the charges and then when you press the invocation it instantly casts them - hence why i refer to it as an "extra button"
What do you think about storm wave instead of tempest flurry? I've tried both but I prefer the first one more.
Hey, you can put elemental evocation on your left click. It doesn't affect your movement at all and it's a button you're gonna press anyways , I've been using it that way all day today and it works really well. The only issue is : I'm pretty sure you can't just hold left click and have the spell trigger as soon as it's ready : you have to click it, even if that means letting go of left click for a split second and pressing it again
idk why but flicker strike, even in poe1 gives me motion sickness. glad this build is still viable
why do we focus on physical damage instead of lightning or ice damage? please explain
Thanks for all these build updates! I’m a big fan of falling thunder as well so this is perfect. I noticed none of the passive trees in the planner match up to what’s shown in video though. Just a fyi
Thanks for the shoutout, Milky! (it only took three days of harping on him to get him to come on over to CoF). 😂
Hey man have you heard about CoMbAt FrEnZy
@@Milkybk_ HuH
lol.
@@Milkybk_ Hey dudd, what amulet anoint would you do?
It would be awesome if you do a lvl build for the monk. What to pick and use first from 1-15 lvl, 15-31lvl and so on
This!! im like doing so bad when i left my build but im only lv50.
Thanks for the videos man, these guides have really helped with the changes and everything, big shoutout to snoobae as well for working all this out. I was unsure of the freeze setup after swapping the gems around. Had about min 270ish cold damage and freezing didn't feel consistent. Managed to get a staff with cold damage on it and that helped tremendously, have about 600 min cold damage and generating a ton of power charges now. For anyone wondering how flicker strike feels over falling thunder, it's so much fun having cold damage on the weapon. I'll flicker a huge pack and it'll still pop the profane ritual while I'm blinking and deliver the charges after I've landed, feels super nice imo
I just set up this build, but only at level 55, with only 2 supports for cast on freeze, I feel like i'm generating barely any power charges, is there a cooldown on profane ritual? Or should I wait with this until i'm higher level
@@michska53 Higher level will be your best bet. If you click into the details of your tempest flurry, how much min cold damage are you doing? The higher that is the more you freeze and the more energy you build up. That's what I had some trouble with earlier, I wasn't freezing them enough
Thanks for the vids! I think Intelligence is the tough part. Do we get that mostly from gear? Or spec it from Passives?
What amulet anoint would be best and which stats are you looking for on jewels?
I'm about to quit monk but your video saved me, thanks a lot
So I'm confused, you have cold infusion, ice bite, etc on tempest flurry but not on the maxroll..is ur updated versions on maxroll? And is cold infusion, ice bite on Herald of Thunder currently?
Ever tried Ruthless on Tempus on Boss fights , it's crazy how fast the 500% pushes the stunning bar. I like it on the Bell on AoE also it's just fun. TY for your builds. They have aided me tremendously. I'm attempting a crit/stun lighting spec. Long way to go for me.
I have ruthless on my bell for ice strike monk and it's nuts, a few freezes and an easy stun is huge cc on bosses
@ZeeeeSean it's alot of fun, I have been playing a lighting/ crit power charges build. I have enjoyed it so far to 65.
You can update the passive tree, it doesn't show what attribute you get
thank you so much for your videos, im having a really good experience with this build, and im so excited to try this version. I have a single question, what about asendences? We have to take the energy point? Or is not neccesary?
What ammy annoint or distilled passive are we going? Thanks!
Ty for the info. What were the gems on cast on freeze , we only showed profane and profusion. THank you.
Great vid and guide
what i find realy frustrating with falling thunder is we need to invest in so many different think (power charge, shock,meta) to keep generating power charge and use falling thunder who in the end do far worse dmg than just hitting the bell
Hello, great build, in the maxroll planer you have an elemental staff but in the video you have the physical one, I use a staff with 400 dps of elemental, and I am doing very well at tier 10, and I want to know if I can continue with that staff or should I Should I sell it and buy one with a flat physique or continue with the elemental damage one, to be able to reach tier 15? Thank you
On the maxroll guide it says "A Physical Damage staff is much more damage in the Endgame." so I would go for a physical damage staff.
So do you think flicker is comparable in power to your current setup? very interested in trying out flicker. currently using charged staff + storm wave/tempest flurry
In my point of view, using Combat Frenzy Resonance is more smooth than Cast on Freeze.Always confuse when you hv 1on1 boss fight but without any corpse if you use Profane Ritual.
This build saved my monk, thank you!
Well, I am either lacking somethint, but can't charge the start of this build in group, everything dies faster than I can build freeze with 360 on cold
nvm you addressed it at the end. Thanks!
Should do a video about how to gear and prepare for early mapping, as a monk player I'm struggling with finishing maps and clearing them due to survivability. Getting 1 tapped by elites is frustrating with the 1life per map.
how do you get 186 spirit with 536 evasion and 202 energy shield on that body armour?
You get 100 spirit from doing Specific bosses in the campaign.Bosses are on Act 1 normal, act 3 normal and act 3 cruel
100 from campaign and rest is from ascendency and that body armour. math checks out
Thanks for the update. So the 50% crit build dont work any longer? I was following your guide on maxroll and it was working well for me. I feel kinda lost now lol
It’s updated mate
@@Milkybk_ thanks man!
Hey quick Question, why is the freeze not coming from charged staff instead of tempest flurry? Wouldnt that apply it as aoe from range and therefor more easily?
Because charged staff has a lower basic damage so in fact it's harder to freeze I guess? Haven't tested it yet.
Is this a good leveling build? I am getting sick of ice strike teleporting me to random enemies and tempest flurry looks cooler with charged staff for a jedi look.
Is there a way for this to work without any cold damage on my weapon? I have a really high phy one with added fire not cold..
i have no idea how to generate power charges against bosses...
Watch the video. 10:29
@@F8isRIPPIN already found it, but thx anyway
This vid made me realize I was missing 40 spirit from campaign
Huge changes to combat frenzy. Maybe im enjoy falling thunder too
Can’t wait to try this out
why not cast on shock but on freeze? should it shock more often than freeze? and how did you get that much spirit to reserve 5 spirit skills like that ?
Sorry if this question is already answered - what should I get first after upgrading my spirit to 60? Also more evasion and energy shield equals to more spirit right? with ascension node? Right now it is really hard to find a equipment with high evasion rating maybe is it because I am only lv38?
Thanks for the video I really appreciate it and enjoy following your guide
you dont really need to worry about that stuff before maps, since as you already realized you cant even get the setup ready. Just level up without focusing too much on this build and then try to finish it when you can actually get this ready
this build probably wouldnt even work properly in campaign anyway since the enemy density is so low and its really overkill
@@xxfortniteslayer69xx82 thanks for the advice also when should I start trying trial of chaos? Now I find it very difficult to get past even the first vulture boss :(
Cast on Freeze / Cast on Shock is unusable outside of maps with the nerfs. CoX will not sustain power charges for the buff, so no overflow is available to use Falling Thunder. I would recommend to stick with Herald of Thunder / Herald of Ice with your preferred skills and combine it with Ghost Dance or Wind Dance at 60 spirit.
If you still want to use Lightning stuff and power charges, casting profane ritual or Power Siphon (requires a wand rolled with that skill) manually isn't that bad as long as you have Profusion and Perpetual Charge and some chance to gain max charges from the passive tree. Use Siphoning Strike to get power charges vs bosses.
Honestly, Tempest Flurry with Charged Staff (and Bell for rares / bosses) does so much work in the campaign that Falling Thunder isn't needed.
@@patrickmyint6917 the number of trials or whatever it is named on your entry ticket is how many rooms you have to clear in trial of chaos (or floors on the other trial). So i think for the first trial of chaos, which should be your second ascendancy, you only need to kill the first boss (i think its 4 rooms?). If you cant kill it come back when youre stronger cant really give you more advice than that
@@xxfortniteslayer69xx82 thanks bro you are correct. After reading it, it said only 4 rooms so vulture is a last boss. Reddit seems to agreed with your advice. I am gonna try it again after I am 5-10 more levels up.
Hello, could you tell me how you can generate spheres without having to use the killer palm skill?
Hello, great video just a tip, first 4 minute of video look like blurry shit xd if u are getting it from ur live stream use higher bitrate
My biteate is 6k that’s the most I can have, I can render higher ig
You can get a lot of cold damage without cold infusion nerfing your boss damage via the damage as extra cold on the tree, ascendency, and best of all just flat cold damage on weapon and gear
I have 100 spirit from the campaign, and 570/218 EV/ES on my chest piece and somehow I'm still 6 spirit short :( Is there a certain number they have to be before quality?
I just copy your build since before META nerf and I dont ubderstand why this COF have more energy chsrge rate than COS. LoL thank you for the build !!
no ascendancy in your planner just fyi
Currently done after putting in 60+ hours into it. While it has a good campaign and combat mechanics, it seriously lacks a good crafting system like Last Epoch and End game (which i am sure they will expand on) but for now I will wait and see how it progresses in the coming future.
question, does evasion on gears (besides body armour) mandatory? thx
Idk why I can't freeze as much. Already have a flat cold on my weap and gloves but mobs always die in shocked. Any tips? Copy your whole build.
Which gem option should I choose?
I think there are a few bugs with lingering illusion but does anyone know if the illusion is considered a minion or not?
Innervate is playable with Charged Staff? plz help ;) i see "X" in gems support.
HI guys, can you reccomend an Annoint on amulet for this build? What are you using?
Tainted Strike or Supercharged
@@Milkybk_ thanks for fast reply. Your guides are awesome btw. GL !
what build we just follow video or guide in descreprion ?
Hey nice guide btw can you share your jewels as well thanks!
If you just want some freezing, what about throwing in some shattering palm? That has 100% more freeze build up and everything.
shattering palm dont leave any corpses. all mobs woud be shattered kek w
Is there anytime soon an Elemental Expression Build incoming? Since we are so high on Crit, why not use it :o
It feels like the currently tree on maxroll gets the energy node too early. Don't think you even have access to meta gems by that point.
The tree isn’t in order due to it being an endgame build not a levelling guide, I can be more conscious of this if people get confused though for sure
Do you think the build takes a hit with the chain freeze nerf in the upcoming patch?
Nope
@@Milkybk_ Awesome Appreciate all your hard work man! Thanks for the replies.
wich orok gift i should take ?
How do you get 50+ percentage of crit? I have the same tree and build and weapon but I only have 39% crit chance :
Tried this and it was fun but i ended up taking CI + Eternal Youth with grim feast
7k EHP no chaos damage trade off for no falling thunder and less single target. Clearing double corrupt t16 breachs whilst watching movies
Do I lean towards dexterity more or intelligence?
Which source will we get power charge, bro? Thank you!
When do u get that storm wave is only good clear skill.
can you please do a level guide?
Yes
Hi, i got a question relating the setup to kill bosses, wich skill do you remove to use hand of chayula?
Either of the herald since they do nothing
@ thank you very much!
How is cast on crit now with this? Isn't it base on the dmg u do with critical?
So if you decide to go flicker strike with this build, do you have to change anything?
Wait, why is too much cold damage bad? Im doing like 1.5k on tempest, was about to buy a new staff with cold dmg instead of pure phys.. i shouldnt do that?
As long as you’re gaining corpses form profane you’re gucci
Shattering doesn't leave corpses on the ground, and you need corpses to collect
hi! how do you generate power charges for charger staff?
Does action speed affect casting speed ?
call of the brotherhood, combat frenzy + keystone to frenzy to powercharge, will make the build 3x better
I think combat frenzy will get fixed next week. It should have a cooldown, but that CD seems to not work if you convert the charges you gain.
But u lose shock with that ring or am i missing out on something?
@@xShamex You need one with a "brick" vaal for only 80% conversion.
What is the skill that does blueish arrowlike hits? it that charged staff?
Yep
What Venom Draught in Act 3 did you choose? Its unchangeable right?
always ailment
would this new cast on freeze work with flicker?
Simply going CoS with magnitude of shock nodes not a viable way?
Didn’t seem to be when I tested it
Can you showcase the build on the most difficult maps to showcase how strong it is like T+ maps? Great vid otherwise
The maps in the vid were 6 mod T15s for context
how do u get 186 spirit? i have nearly the same chest piece as u but only 165 spiriit
his chest piece is actually 665 evasion and 255 ES. he briefly hovers over it at 8:34
I have a similar build. however, I'm having a hard time upkeeping power charges. How do you do that?
Flat cold damage on weapon or rings/gloves + make sure you have freeze buildup nodes on the passive tree.
That was my main issue. After fixing that, I was fine with generating enough energy to proc profane ritual from freeze
I wonder how this would work with Voll's Protector. Thoughts?
Could be fine but you sacrifice a LOT of defence and spirit
the freeze is terrible for t15 maps though, it has a very rare and random proc chance on t15-16 maps due to scaling, so not worth it there, compared to lower tier maps sadly, you find your self either spamming charge blade or only rarely use falling thunder
Not true for me in t15 or 16
why is cast on shock worse than cast on freeze post patch?
are you gonna give an upgraded flicker build too mate? ty
Yes, but i feel like im making people dizzy with the changes so gonna chill on thunder for a bit
Changed to flicker and its fun, but it's a press and pray to God button. Quite a few times it puts me in some sticky situations
Hi, tell me, i don't see your ascendant in your maxroll
How do you get more spirit? Besides the ones they give us for free.
dumb question i guess but i just want to learn the game: why doesnt he use cast on shock? (without sacrificing light damage for cast on freeze?)
why are people using cast on freeze compared to using cast on shock while doing main damage lightning?
Because freeze gives you 5x energy as shock, and it’s not 5x easier to shock enemies than freeze even if you spec hard into lightning with a modest investment in cold.
what build would work to level through cruel? i cant respec from the original build you posted last week since im poor on gold
Stick with the other setup for now mate, it’s fine with reapers invocation or self cast ritual, this is later
@@Milkybk_ gotcha! what gear stats should i go for? havent played PoE before so idk what im doing at this point
@@E.Fredericks just go with whatever you need to equip your gems/gear and try to get as much eva/enerygy shield on gear, resist is icing on the cake. you should be good on dex through a lot of the evasion passives double upping with dex so a lot of my stat nodes are int/str for me. ~lvl 72 monk as of posting this
@@lolimakesense okay, I just got to cruel and I felt like I was getting 1 shot in utzaal on normal. Is taking a while to kill the Miller normal?
If you are going with the freeze build why dont take combat frenzy and the passive to change frenzy for power charges?
you would only get power charges every 5 seconds while this just gains as fast as you can freeze
Dude i just went to the comments to ask that... was wondering too why you would cuck yourself with the cof profane ritual cringe
@@poopy323 I get 7 power charges with 1 pack with combat charge
He likes falling thunder. Which is great. With combat frenzy youre not generating that much power charges to cast falling thunder most of the time
@@joshuamanuel7359 how are you doing this. I specced into combat frenzy and observe exact issue above. Due to frenzy charges only being generated once in 6 seconds I don’t sustain my charges. Am I missing something here?
how do you get enough int for cast on freeze. it needs 206 at lvl 20
Level 14 sorry will update builder
How long do i need to play daily to afford these respecs every day? Currently my gold and power charge counter is at 0. I don't know what to do!
I feel your pain bro
Respecs? That weapon alone is worth a lifetime of grind lol
I mean i have not really found respecing too bad just sell lots of magic items
lol i thought that cold damage wouldnt let to cast profound on corpsess because they are shatered?
As did I
a lot kills on mobs you get from herald of ice. skill procs on frozen enemy, but dont freeze himsels. if mobs around main target dont frozen - they corpses after proc sont shatter
what happened at 1:04 lol, how did you summon those lightning botls like that
Herald of thunder when you kill shocked enemies with an attack you gain charges of those procs
didn't cast on freeze have the same nerf as shock tho? so why not just stick with cast on shock?
nvm i see now. cast on freeze gets 10 energy and shock 2 energy power power level of the enemy. that's rather stupid.
Maybe stupid question but how do we generate charges on bosses without corpses?
Watch the video. 10:29
I wish cast on shock came back...
why do we focus on physical damage instead of lightning or ice damage? please explain
Read gem description
Skill converts phys to lightning, just maths out to more damage
@@pr4zaVIDZ thx :)
How did you put profusion to cast on freeze? Mine wont 😅
Socket profane ritual first
Int he cast on freeze then it lets you
@@Milkybk_ thanks bro. I really want to copy your build! But so confuse 😂
What lvl do i need to start playing this ? Iam lvl 70 atm
same question for me as well
I am currently at lv 42 and I may try the combat frenzy approach first, then transit to this build during the late game.
I don't think I have enough cold damage to build up the freeze energy that quick.
you only need as high of a DPS quarterstaff as you can get. high phys is better than added ele but added ele isnt that bad. high attack speed and crit if possible.
@@mooseclamps yeah but i am not gaining enough charges with cast on freeze, thats why i am asking. maybe i need all Gemslots ?
i feel like cast on crit would be better, just invest in a high base crit staff
why cast on frezee not cast on shock ? i get that its nerfed but isnt having lightning stack on each other much better and getting all taht juice buffs combine and destroying everything ? and about elemantal what skill gonna be use elemantal skill is there any build that i can check that too ? cuz i like pressing skills so ty!
The need to cast on shock made it generate too little energy and as a result, power charges
@@Milkybk_ ty ill Change my build
What annoit are you going for?
Dumb question but how did you get all those skill gems slots?
There's a currency item - Jeweller's Orb. They start at Lesser Jeweller's Orb and move up, allowing for new slots. I'm only at the Lesser stage so not sure if there's anything special after a certain point.
REAL JEDI IS HERE
if im too poor to respec my passives, should i just level a new character?
u can do it, ive respecced about 3x because of this fucker
Play the game, sell rare items and you will get the gold.
Don’t rush into all the changes.
All Milkys builds revolve around Tempest flurry + charged staff.
Keep what is working for you and play the game to get gold and drops. When you are richer and feel the need to upgrade the build, do it only then…
Reroll is too time consuming