Bro y'all missing it all. This beef got inherited by Tyler when he mentions " put ya Bentley back in your garage, on a Kendrick beat lmao. Y'all better catch up cordey & joey want smoke. Like Tyler said got something to say than get it off yo chest. Kendrick don't have the time obviously but Tyler does.
I really don’t think Joey is hating. I think this is really competition and trying to get the east to step it up bc they have been blown out the water by the west recently.
I don't think he's hating, but he's working overtime to create a beef that doesn't exist. Kendrick gave props to Nas, one of the biggest East coast rappers, so there's no East coast/West coast beef. Kendrick wanted smoke with one person and he's already taken him down.
I wish I agreed. But why now? It’s been 15 years!!! Where was NY? Why be jealous that the West coast fought and won!! Why be jealous of them? That’s not Hip Hop competition, that’s jealous of the West Coast. We don’t want that bitter Biggie and PAC energy. We want Hip Hop.
@@miamac63 I hope it's friendly competition because what other ways for you to test your blade than to go to the sharpest sword. Plus Kendrick welcomes these lyrical battles so no harm done
I don’t see Kendrick responding to this . His ascension over this year has put him and Joey in two completely different leagues and conversations. If I’m Kendrick he not worth my time . Let Ab soul or Daylyt get in the ring wit em
Joey was the first to respond to control but it’s always been competition I hope this causes more New York rappers to take back their sound, too much drill and trap these days
@@mickey10jb80oh yah! Just that Dot does not seem to care much for Joey though. Or consider him worth his while as an MC. Hoping this changes this. I hope we don’t have long to wait wait (for months) knowing how Dot is. He just slayed a goat and is probably full.😄
@@sandilengcobo7904 at first I was like I hope he responds to show how clever and lyrical he is but i dont think it serves him to. If cole or someone close to his level made a lyrical diss , i would get it but lets be honest, as far as the GOAT debate goes, there has to be at least a decent amount of pop appeal for a person to win that. Joey isn't popular enough. Even if he was lyrical miracle he would never be crowned Goat so what would be the point of Kendrick stooping down right now? Especially before the superbowl and a major tour
something everyone seems to have missed is the fact that when he says "coordinate the fit, take a pic(camera sound)" he's making a reference to Kendrick's black GNX and how Kendrick is using it to paint a picture about the history of LA hiphop cultural values and aesthetics, while in Joey's case he's dressed for the cold, leaning on his black Maybach, the car a kid in Brooklyn dreamt about, made iconic by both NY rappers and gangsters. The song is clearly not a diss at Kendrick, but more like a sparring session energy-wise, where he's showing us he respects the art, but he's also here to throw some punches.
Rest in peace, Capital STEEZ!!!! Kendrick is turning into a hip hop whetstone that everyone wants to grind and sharpen their talent against. But Kendrick has a way of shattering steel like glass even Drake and his millions couldn't take the heat. Joey gonna get his legs swept out from underneath him if he moves too reckless. He slid on the beat tho this was a melodic track.
Ab-Soul smokes 90% of rappers nowadays, they ain't earned the right to challenge Kendrick. Only top tier MCs (Lil Wayne, Lupe, BlackThought, Nas) can even touch Kenny at the moment, Joey is like a 🦟 to a 🕷
@@mrD66Mthat’s what I’m saying. Dudes glazing Joey not realizing dot would cook this dude. I really hope dot responds. Joey been asking for the smoke for years now
Don't get me wrong. I love Joey. And it's because of that love that I'm gonna need him to sit his ass down somewhere before he gets his boots smoked. He wants no parts of what Kendrick is right now.
He is one of the few people who responded the first time around a decade back so my guess he's just keeping things competitive because I know they both have tremendous respect for each other but if it's up then it's up 🔥
Honestly, since he said the West Coast and not Kendrick specifically, I think a lesser known rapper should step up for the West and respond. Kendrick’s already done his battle.
@@HorridCross571it wasn't a response to Joey it came out before Joeys people just keep saying that because he has lines in the song that could fit this situation, it's called "that guy" Tyler the Creator
I like Joey, but he is crazy for thinking that his bars are at the Kendrick or Cole levels. He is in the group that is behind them, not mad at the confidence and desire for competition though.
@@Ericsond147min drill wasn't a bad diss because of his ability it was bad because he criticized kdot for something he himself is critiqued for. He has been talking about an album for years and it's still not out. Same as Drake talking about real gang members when he's not one or speaking on height like he's known to fight.
Joey has been acting getting that bag. He got bars and lyrics, and he is cerified to trade bars with Kendrick. I wanna see it. Kendrick went at Drake. That's the only person Kendrick has tested his pen against. Drake ain't no lyricist. Joey is a lyricist and ain't got alot of controversy or smut on his name. Let's see what K DOT has to say about a opponent that is on the same pedigree as him.
@@IAM1OUTOF60....Did you mean to say Joey has the same pedigree as Kdot? Where's Joey's pulitzer....How Grammy's Joey got....None of those awards are the end all be all, but let me know which metric Joey can compete with Kdot on?
Joey badass would obliterate Kendrick lamar! Drake low key had the best diss track of they beef family Matters bar for bar was superior than anything kendrick put out
As an older hip hop fan and artist, it kinda makes me sad to see stuff like this labeled as clout chasing. Makes me feel like a lot of yall don't actually understand this art form at all.
@@AnalyzeThat93 not all of us. I'm not an American yet due to the popularity this art reached me. Because the art is deep I had to do my research to attempt to understand it as well as the culture, I went back and listened to classics. The people that love the art do the necessary work to understand.
Idk I think there is a pretty good point for clout chasing on this one. Seems like Joey is trying to start a beef with Kendrick or other West Coast rappers because they’re in the light right now. You can obviously see that this would bring more attention to him as an artist. I feel like he is trying to take advantage of the situation to further his career. I can’t say that I even blame him for this. This is just my take. The part that I think is sad, and diminishes the art, is that they’re trying to create this division of East Coast and West Coast again. Everyone should just be united for the love of the music and the art. We need to stop trying to create divisions among our people. It’s the only way forward.
@@Stethoscopelope I agree with the last part of what you said but strongly disagree that Joey is trying to start a beef with anyone. He's not calling out any rappers here. He's calling out the fans who apparently can't pay attention to more than one thing at a time. The people who are loudly saying that Kendrick and the west coast saved hip hop. This is a sentiment I have seen time and time again on channels like this one and it's ridiculous. It's just proving that these people only consume mainstream media and should keep their mouths shut when it comes to the actual culture. I can appreciate people who are just discovering hip hop and don't really understand that there are levels to this culture as far as mainstream, underground and deep underground but hip hop has been thriving, especially without mainstream contribution. Joey and the rest of the east has been a large part of that. So, the casual narrative there is ignorant and disrespectful.
13:39 This is also a Biggie shout out. The same one Kendrick used on TV off. But Joeyy switched up the first bar. Instead of saying, "I'm the king of this rap thing, they siblings," he said, "I stand tall in this rap thing, like Yao Ming," for reasons you specified.
@@yeabtseganegash5684 right! No need But with Joey basically saying he's the new heir king of NYC he's trying to usher in the new assembly of East Coast vs West Coast
I like this. I just find it odd everyone was quiet for over a decade then come out of the woodwork now the west is back up. The East vs West thing is played. But I get it. The East has been out the game for real for too long.
I mean it could be a type of inspiration for Joey. Alot of rappers don't like dropping just to drop. Plus this west coast vs east coast thing could be something motivating for alot of rappers
@@brandond1947 But it's been a decade plus and hip-hop was being dragged to an early grave with not one peep from the East. Seemed like some of the East Coast rappers even tried to make Drake their guy.
The amount of comments talking down on JBA is insane. People go treat yourself to his music. I hope this means a Joey album is on the way… been too long.
Joey is kind of mid. He’s never capitalized on his talent, he is a great lyricist but puts out mid music. Kendrick won’t respond and that’s for the best for Joey he can’t hang with Kendrick Lamar no one can even j fold ducked out the beef on some peace tour after years of calling himself the reaper. All these rappers are scared of the buggy man.
Knox hill great breakdown… I agree Joey can go toe to toe with anyone but he is inconsistent… haven’t listened and or liked too much of his music lately but this reminds me of his earlier PRO ERA days that had me recognize him as force to be reckoned with… new subscriber thanks for the content! First TH-camr I came across that’s already on this breakdown!
I hope Kendrick doesn't respond right now. I need that SUPER BOWL performance to be on TOP!!! Leave the little guy alone until after the Super Bowl. IJS
He's NOT the goat. His talent and artistry are top tier, no doubt, but Em has proved his place at the top for over 25 years. Even Wayne and Cole can be considered but Kendrick still has some work to do to claim Ems throne
@@Sdotty_sweepnah, just gotta use your brains, where these people been the entire time? I'll wait, why JUST now? I'll wait 😂😂 can't tell me it ain't for attention and clout, now hush before you hurt yourself.
Joey hasn't earned the right to battle a top tier MC yet. Unless there's something personal / bad blood, I don't see why anyone of that level would take on a challenge where the risk vs reward ROI isn't right for them
The music industry is funny sometimes, many people get fucked by Kendrick , as for I don't believe in Kendrick music he is not potray what he is talking
yall Kendrick fans weird asf, what happened to your idol wanting to bring competitiveness back to hip hop? Are you scared your idol is gonna get destroyed?
They probably don’t have as many “skeletons” in their closet . Pusha T made modern diss tracks into who has the juiciest info on who, what we expect now is a damning piece of evidence; Joey seems to think that based on skill he can go toe to toe ( I personally think he’s gonna get dog walked ).
Maybe NY saw Drake as their king. 😂 Cause where has Joey been all these years when Drake was on top? 50 cent has been on the "provide cover for Drake" tour, maybe Joey has joined him? LOL Seriously though, I'm all for lyrical competition, but the timing is definitely _interesting._
Kendrick didn't respond to many rappers, even those that were not mentioned didn't get a response. I like Joey but this isn't it, throwing shade at West Coast is a lot for him. I don't see him as a king of NY, I mean let 50 come up with another series and let him act and leave this for a while.
Claiming to be the king of NY when your city don’t even f with you like that is laughable. I like Joey. Never did I think he was great. Or the greatest.
KDot told Joey to work harder to get recognized, NY gon embarrass Joey before Kendrick does. 50 put a tesla battery in his back, let’s pray he doesn’t crashout.
But it’s funny though. This is the same guy who said that thank god for KDot because before him the hip hop was in critical condition but once Kendrick says something provoking, then switches are back. If you look up his interview, he praises JDot. Love this flow though but he needs more than this
It’s all in the game, like Euphoria was just bars until Drake dropped Family Matters. Then it switched to properly heavy, make him bleed shit. This feels more like “a good exhibition within the game”, as Kendrick said.
@ Don’t give me wrong, I love the bravery and greediness of Joey and he is a talented lyricist but challenging the whole coast, I mean and he is little out of touch with what’s happening in the culture right now and you have Ab-Soul, Daylyt and KDot of course but let’s see. It’s gonna be an amazing year for sure and I am all for it ❤️🫡. Do you think W will respond? I would love to see Soul or Daylyt respond, it would be crazy
@ isn’t funny that if you look up interview with KDot when he Is asked who he listens to , he praises Joey Bad Ass and says how talented he is so stop that pointless parallels with Drake. Point is Kendrick doesn’t directly come for someone unless it’s sent for him. He stays in his lane and he is the greatest of his generation and there is nothing anyone can do about it. if you start sneak dissing and freaking around, then you gonna get your head handed to you so let’s chill ! KDot always gave flowers even to Drake. Haters always gonna be haters but he will still stand tall because he is a real freaking artist and his catalogue is unmatched and consistent.
He also interpellates biggies track kick in the door when he says "I stand tall in this rap thing like yao ming" which is another reference to a east coast legend. However this is also a shot at Kendrick because he interpellated the same song on his track TV off.
Not quite sure why everyone is saying Joey is clout chasing on Kendrick. He's had lyrical smoke for Kendrick for a decade ever since control when Kendrick called out all rappers joey responded and now he's just tryna make a competition again this is sorta joeys control he's aiming at all West Coast mfs but mainly Kendrick. Can't say it's clout chasing if they got history that'd be like saying Kendrick clout chased Drake because Drake was a bigger name and more popular at the time even tho they had history
Drake has been taking shots at Kendrick for 10 years. Kendrick also has an insane amount of grammy's and a Pulitzer Prize recipient. No one who actually looks at credentials would think that Kendrick would've been clout chasing. Period.
Let me you this his 3rd time coming at kendrick in Control kendrick did not mention him by name he still made a song & In 2024 he made song about kendrick during April drake vs kemdrick beef & Now its the third time he is doing this what does that sound like to you?
ngl if i’m kendrick i wouldn’t think this is enough to be worth my time 🤷🏽♀️ nice attempt but that’s big talk especially considering i don’t even think his own city calls him the “king” of their coast. he’s gotta go at the other rappers in his city and get the rappers over there to step it up first before he tries to come at the entire west coast
Dot too busy planning his Super Bowl appearance as well as his tour, Tyler took it from Dot and already gave it back to JBA. 😂 Dot isnt concerned at this point by any of this lmao. Hes on another level at the moment.
I hope this leads to more music, especially for Joey, it's swings and roundabouts we need more East Coast in the collective consciousness, and if anyone can up the East it's Joey, people should remember it was him and Pro Era that made Beast Coast with Flatbush Zombies, and the Underachievers.
He also said a similar line on killuminati 2 as the movie reel line. He said “If you don't fuck with cinematic stand still My life's a movie on the real, you can get shot with your hands on the wheel”
There is no south coast. Just a south. Unless it’s Florida that’s literally a southern coast. Either way no one talking about it because South has dominated for like 3 decades already
Nah, he doesn't deserve KDot yet. Let him battle TDE, Daylyt, Tyler, J, peysoh hitta.. Etc.. but the Bronx in me, I would like to see batrlw.some NY first, before he goes after another whole coast
knox, i feel you also missed when Joey said "i wont stop til the crowd sings and I'm crowned king", in my mind, in reference to when Kendrick was "crowned king" on stage by Snoop and others and the crowd went nuts.
This isn't really a diss. It's a whine! Attention seeking cry. "What about me?", "I also want sum". At best a bait! You can't respond to every bum. Lol
Historically, this is exactly what the culture has represented…emcees staking their claim to the throne. Hip-hop has always been rooted in competition. While I agree you can’t respond to everyone, Joey is far from irrelevant or a bum, and I think this move by him is great. It pushes the culture forward.
Tyler said: “Put dat little Mayback truck in the garage!” Sounds like he in his feelings and Hating! If it’s a problem wit da WEST get it off yo chest and quit sneak dissing! Catch that Direct Flight ✈️ to CA Boy!
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Eat it by eminem
Khantrast - Landed in Brooklyn, Valedictorian and Word is Bond (this one hits in the feels a bit)
Redman Muddy Waters Too album!!!
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This is what Hip Hop is all about.
Both Kendrick and Joey understand and treat it as a sport.
Was gonna say this would be a good battle where they both keep it rap.
FACTS! unlike Drizzy who brings up wives.
@@NicoletteJones-m8c frrr like thats every mans weakness they woman
Return of the pens
Kendrick is corny
Bro y'all missing it all. This beef got inherited by Tyler when he mentions " put ya Bentley back in your garage, on a Kendrick beat lmao. Y'all better catch up cordey & joey want smoke. Like Tyler said got something to say than get it off yo chest. Kendrick don't have the time obviously but Tyler does.
I never connected the dots. I would be down for that back and forth.
Haha, yup! Tyler was already on top of it lmao, he knew. Tyler is different too. Love him and Dot so much.
We better catch up? How bout stfu, I don’t have to do shit.
I think joey would lose to tyler shhheeesh both cordae n joey would still lose to tyler
@HeWhomTH-cams certainly, too much ammo.
To be fair, Tyler already responded, "Put that lil Maybach truck in the garage" 🤣
😅😅😅
Yep! 😂😂
Shit was ass Joey our rapping Tyler half asleep
@@Thum0z_ain’t nonone bumping that new joey Ass😂lil nobody jus wants some attention that he’s never gonna get hahahahahhaha LLLLLLLL
Where did Tyler respond?
I really don’t think Joey is hating. I think this is really competition and trying to get the east to step it up bc they have been blown out the water by the west recently.
@@mustangs1140 i also think so, but why he didnt say nothing to the canadian for 15 years
well the west is the best
I don't think he's hating, but he's working overtime to create a beef that doesn't exist. Kendrick gave props to Nas, one of the biggest East coast rappers, so there's no East coast/West coast beef. Kendrick wanted smoke with one person and he's already taken him down.
I wish I agreed. But why now? It’s been 15 years!!! Where was NY? Why be jealous that the West coast fought and won!! Why be jealous of them? That’s not Hip Hop competition, that’s jealous of the West Coast. We don’t want that bitter Biggie and PAC energy. We want Hip Hop.
@@miamac63 I hope it's friendly competition because what other ways for you to test your blade than to go to the sharpest sword. Plus Kendrick welcomes these lyrical battles so no harm done
I don’t see Kendrick responding to this . His ascension over this year has put him and Joey in two completely different leagues and conversations. If I’m Kendrick he not worth my time . Let Ab soul or Daylyt get in the ring wit em
Yeah imagine not standing on your own 2 feet and gotta send other people after someone 🤡
I mean kendrick needed 2 diss albums and like a dozen other features to come at drake so not suprising 😂 @PrimalInstinct0704
@@PrimalInstinct0704you don’t understand. Kings don’t nt have to address pawns. A bishop can handle that shit
he might say something subtle about it Ina future song. but Kendrick just released his album. so i doubt he's releasing anytime soon again lol
@@PrimalInstinct0704a king will not get off his throne to throw tomatoes with peasants. Joey is great though.
I’M HERE FOR THIS ENERGY. BRING ON THE COMPETITION
Joey was the first to respond to control but it’s always been competition
I hope this causes more New York rappers to take back their sound, too much drill and trap these days
April the 7th was the announcement date not the release date of damn. He didnt mive nothing for doey joey
Incorrect. Damn was never moved for nobody...
Facts. Kendrick brought back the spirit of Hip-Hop!
@@BluEx22329 you guys are right I misremembered the announcement and release and confused it with other info but
Joell Ortiz was the first to respond
At first i didnt think it was bout Kendrick because i only read that "west" line but as soon as he said "murals" and "nominations" i knew 😂
@@mickey10jb80 ‘black forces’ too 😅
@@mickey10jb80 I can see The Game responding to Joey.
@@mickey10jb80oh yah! Just that Dot does not seem to care much for Joey though. Or consider him worth his while as an MC. Hoping this changes this. I hope we don’t have long to wait wait (for months) knowing how Dot is. He just slayed a goat and is probably full.😄
@@sandilengcobo7904 at first I was like I hope he responds to show how clever and lyrical he is but i dont think it serves him to. If cole or someone close to his level made a lyrical diss , i would get it but lets be honest, as far as the GOAT debate goes, there has to be at least a decent amount of pop appeal for a person to win that. Joey isn't popular enough. Even if he was lyrical miracle he would never be crowned Goat so what would be the point of Kendrick stooping down right now? Especially before the superbowl and a major tour
something everyone seems to have missed is the fact that when he says "coordinate the fit, take a pic(camera sound)" he's making a reference to Kendrick's black GNX and how Kendrick is using it to paint a picture about the history of LA hiphop cultural values and aesthetics, while in Joey's case he's dressed for the cold, leaning on his black Maybach, the car a kid in Brooklyn dreamt about, made iconic by both NY rappers and gangsters. The song is clearly not a diss at Kendrick, but more like a sparring session energy-wise, where he's showing us he respects the art, but he's also here to throw some punches.
IF I was Kendrick, I would bop my head to the beat and smile at the challenge....then get back to what I was working on. This is secondary.
Kendrick don't want it wit joey
Rest in peace, Capital STEEZ!!!! Kendrick is turning into a hip hop whetstone that everyone wants to grind and sharpen their talent against. But Kendrick has a way of shattering steel like glass even Drake and his millions couldn't take the heat. Joey gonna get his legs swept out from underneath him if he moves too reckless. He slid on the beat tho this was a melodic track.
Hopefully kdot uses this comment to get back at him 😂
Ab-Soul smokes 90% of rappers nowadays, they ain't earned the right to challenge Kendrick. Only top tier MCs (Lil Wayne, Lupe, BlackThought, Nas) can even touch Kenny at the moment, Joey is like a 🦟 to a 🕷
@@mrD66Mthat’s what I’m saying. Dudes glazing Joey not realizing dot would cook this dude.
I really hope dot responds. Joey been asking for the smoke for years now
This want we want respectfully. All comp, that’s it really
@@mrD66M🧢🙄
Don't get me wrong. I love Joey. And it's because of that love that I'm gonna need him to sit his ass down somewhere before he gets his boots smoked. He wants no parts of what Kendrick is right now.
You don’t know Joey then
Lol ya swear Kendrick is that lyrically insane cause he barely beat Drake.
@@allanbrito4645Barely beat??? What news are you reading boy. So why Kendrick got Drake filling court petitions for a dis track?
@allanbrito4645 He actually is one of them ones. The fact you all go on and on loudly protesting instead of rallying for you boy is interesting.
If anyone from NY can go besides Cole and jay it’s him
He is one of the few people who responded the first time around a decade back so my guess he's just keeping things competitive because I know they both have tremendous respect for each other but if it's up then it's up 🔥
What I been saying too. People are misguided for taking this as the same type of energy Kendrick and Drakes battle had.
Honestly, since he said the West Coast and not Kendrick specifically, I think a lesser known rapper should step up for the West and respond. Kendrick’s already done his battle.
Tyler the Creator was already on it. 😊 already responded.
@@KngDotWhats the record called??
Hopefully Ab Soul
Absolutely.
@@HorridCross571it wasn't a response to Joey it came out before Joeys people just keep saying that because he has lines in the song that could fit this situation, it's called "that guy" Tyler the Creator
I like Joey, but he is crazy for thinking that his bars are at the Kendrick or Cole levels. He is in the group that is behind them, not mad at the confidence and desire for competition though.
Hes better than fold
@@Ericsond14🧢
@@Ericsond147min drill wasn't a bad diss because of his ability it was bad because he criticized kdot for something he himself is critiqued for. He has been talking about an album for years and it's still not out. Same as Drake talking about real gang members when he's not one or speaking on height like he's known to fight.
Joey has been acting getting that bag. He got bars and lyrics, and he is cerified to trade bars with Kendrick. I wanna see it. Kendrick went at Drake. That's the only person Kendrick has tested his pen against. Drake ain't no lyricist. Joey is a lyricist and ain't got alot of controversy or smut on his name. Let's see what K DOT has to say about a opponent that is on the same pedigree as him.
@@IAM1OUTOF60....Did you mean to say Joey has the same pedigree as Kdot? Where's Joey's pulitzer....How Grammy's Joey got....None of those awards are the end all be all, but let me know which metric Joey can compete with Kdot on?
Joey is good but Kendrick is literally like 10 rappers all in 1. He ain't winning
Joey badass would obliterate Kendrick lamar! Drake low key had the best diss track of they beef family Matters bar for bar was superior than anything kendrick put out
@Rumpleforeskin29 .....Didn't somebody say something about dic riding? Ain't no way you just said Drake out bar'd Kendrick....
As an older hip hop fan and artist, it kinda makes me sad to see stuff like this labeled as clout chasing. Makes me feel like a lot of yall don't actually understand this art form at all.
They don't. They are just here because it's popular smh.
@@AnalyzeThat93 not all of us. I'm not an American yet due to the popularity this art reached me. Because the art is deep I had to do my research to attempt to understand it as well as the culture, I went back and listened to classics. The people that love the art do the necessary work to understand.
Idk I think there is a pretty good point for clout chasing on this one. Seems like Joey is trying to start a beef with Kendrick or other West Coast rappers because they’re in the light right now. You can obviously see that this would bring more attention to him as an artist. I feel like he is trying to take advantage of the situation to further his career. I can’t say that I even blame him for this. This is just my take.
The part that I think is sad, and diminishes the art, is that they’re trying to create this division of East Coast and West Coast again. Everyone should just be united for the love of the music and the art. We need to stop trying to create divisions among our people. It’s the only way forward.
@@Stethoscopelope I agree with the last part of what you said but strongly disagree that Joey is trying to start a beef with anyone. He's not calling out any rappers here.
He's calling out the fans who apparently can't pay attention to more than one thing at a time. The people who are loudly saying that Kendrick and the west coast saved hip hop. This is a sentiment I have seen time and time again on channels like this one and it's ridiculous. It's just proving that these people only consume mainstream media and should keep their mouths shut when it comes to the actual culture.
I can appreciate people who are just discovering hip hop and don't really understand that there are levels to this culture as far as mainstream, underground and deep underground but hip hop has been thriving, especially without mainstream contribution. Joey and the rest of the east has been a large part of that. So, the casual narrative there is ignorant and disrespectful.
@@Stethoscopelope I agree
Daylyt tweeted that he feel bad cause now they gotta Nuke somebody they love 😂
I feel like Absoul might just put him out of existence.
@ 🤣
@@NthatengMofokengbuggin
Fr he tweeted that?
@ yes he did. He tweeted like 5 statements
🚨🚨”The Rulers Back” is originally from Slick Rick! Jay-Z made it a hot line 🚨🚨
13:39 This is also a Biggie shout out. The same one Kendrick used on TV off. But Joeyy switched up the first bar. Instead of saying, "I'm the king of this rap thing, they siblings," he said, "I stand tall in this rap thing, like Yao Ming," for reasons you specified.
Two years ago Joey did a song saying Kenny, Joey, and Cole the top 3. He is just saying he wants to play it’s a sport!
Duh!!! That's why most ppl beef...to get the crown. Drake & Dot wanted to be #1...especially Dot. So it is what it is.
Name of song please?
Kdot need to give him that smoke he wants
Hip hop is up right now. 2024 was an awakening. 2025 bout to be a movie. I love the competitive aspect being brought back
I just hope they don't make it with 🔫 , stay with the lyrics guys
@@yeabtseganegash5684 right! No need
But with Joey basically saying he's the new heir king of NYC he's trying to usher in the new assembly of East Coast vs West Coast
@@yeabtseganegash5684 and That's a whole Other mind frame plus u do have to add Drake Lawsuit sending a$$ in the mix
I like this. I just find it odd everyone was quiet for over a decade then come out of the woodwork now the west is back up. The East vs West thing is played. But I get it. The East has been out the game for real for too long.
I mean it could be a type of inspiration for Joey. Alot of rappers don't like dropping just to drop. Plus this west coast vs east coast thing could be something motivating for alot of rappers
East coast do something?!?
@@brandond1947 But it's been a decade plus and hip-hop was being dragged to an early grave with not one peep from the East. Seemed like some of the East Coast rappers even tried to make Drake their guy.
With all the ATL rappers that have emerged, the east has been on top honestly
If ur not saying a name it's not a diss. Period
I bet Kendrick is smiling as this shows his mission succeeded in making rappers get competitive again, though whether he'll engage is another story
Happy new year Knox! Hope you had a great Christmas.
Happy New Years Knox🎉 also Kendrick is too busy 😂😂😂😂 but we shall see.
I just made this comment. And unless you’re top 10 MCS, I doubt he’s going to engage you.
Hell yeah, the competition is always good 🔥
No mentioned Party Die when he talked Black Force Energy.
The amount of comments talking down on JBA is insane. People go treat yourself to his music. I hope this means a Joey album is on the way… been too long.
😂😂😂
stg
Joey is kind of mid. He’s never capitalized on his talent, he is a great lyricist but puts out mid music. Kendrick won’t respond and that’s for the best for Joey he can’t hang with Kendrick Lamar no one can even j fold ducked out the beef on some peace tour after years of calling himself the reaper. All these rappers are scared of the buggy man.
People recognize Joey but this is just cringe clout chasing on his part. He's nowhere near Kendrick
Joey would run through a lot of those west coast rappers tbh. Dot the only competition 🍿
In the words of R.Kelly," Elephants dont swat at flys..." 😮😮😮
Knox hill great breakdown… I agree Joey can go toe to toe with anyone but he is inconsistent… haven’t listened and or liked too much of his music lately but this reminds me of his earlier PRO ERA days that had me recognize him as force to be reckoned with… new subscriber thanks for the content! First TH-camr I came across that’s already on this breakdown!
Also R.I.P Capital steez
A big what if in the game
I hope Kendrick doesn't respond right now. I need that SUPER BOWL performance to be on TOP!!! Leave the little guy alone until after the Super Bowl. IJS
Hands down! Kendrick Lamar The goat ‼️2025.
He's NOT the goat. His talent and artistry are top tier, no doubt, but Em has proved his place at the top for over 25 years. Even Wayne and Cole can be considered but Kendrick still has some work to do to claim Ems throne
That was in 2024 dude. Chill out homie ... THE RULER BACK wtf
I like it. Badass living up to his name coning out,like this. F the homogeneous energy, go against the grain. And I'm a Kendrick fan.
Love your vids, easily my fav reaction/breakdown channels
When K Dot does it ‘it’s hip hop, it’s competition’
But when others do it, they are chasing clout?? Common people.
Facts. It's been so long since people have felt the spirit of real hip-hop that they mistake it for clout chasing. This is exactly what control was.
Average kdot stans tho
@@AnalyzeThat93 dot had a reason to diss back tf are yall on are yall that fvckin slow 🤣
@@Sdotty_sweepnah, just gotta use your brains, where these people been the entire time? I'll wait, why JUST now? I'll wait 😂😂 can't tell me it ain't for attention and clout, now hush before you hurt yourself.
Facts
Friendly Competition! Rappers step up, rap!😊
Joey hasn't earned the right to battle a top tier MC yet. Unless there's something personal / bad blood, I don't see why anyone of that level would take on a challenge where the risk vs reward ROI isn't right for them
Cant beat new yearwith knox...hope everbody seeing this has beautiful year ✌️❤️🙏🏻
Joey ain't dumb he knows how to get himself relevant again! He knows Dot is the king
Nah bruh he knows you think dot is the king
The music industry is funny sometimes, many people get fucked by Kendrick , as for I don't believe in Kendrick music he is not potray what he is talking
This isn’t worth a second thought about, my guess is Kendrick will feel same, shame, once a lame always lame.
50 sent him to help the Canadian actor, it’s not enough
@@RS-tm1om dang I guess even kdot got weird fans
@@3selfmeh, if Joey really wanted it he’d come correct and direct. This is for attention.
yall Kendrick fans weird asf, what happened to your idol wanting to bring competitiveness back to hip hop? Are you scared your idol is gonna get destroyed?
I'm a big Kendrick fan, but I'm side eyeing ya'll weirdos. This is friendly competition. EXACTLY what Kendrick was looking for smh.
@@SweetlitBeats Clearly clout chasing, only thing is he ain’t a big enough name to kill
New York’s last “Star” was 6ix9ine 😂😂😂 They haven’t had a legit boogeyman since 50 Cent
East Coast is in shambles
Chattin. East coat ain’t only New York dummy 😂😂😂
This is good but it don’t even touch the control verse before he even said names lol . Love the competition. Does Dot reply? Does he need to?
CROSS REFERENCE
"Rap Thing! they siblings"
"Rap thing! Like Yao Ming"✔️
Never heard of Joey somebody who what's the world to notice him. The world knows King Kendrick
I love this, need this friendly competition in hiphop
I'm ready for this battle!!! Looking forward to it!!!👌🏾
How could anyone diss Kendrick after what happened to Drake.
They probably don’t have as many “skeletons” in their closet . Pusha T made modern diss tracks into who has the juiciest info on who, what we expect now is a damning piece of evidence; Joey seems to think that based on skill he can go toe to toe ( I personally think he’s gonna get dog walked ).
Maybe NY saw Drake as their king. 😂 Cause where has Joey been all these years when Drake was on top?
50 cent has been on the "provide cover for Drake" tour, maybe Joey has joined him? LOL
Seriously though, I'm all for lyrical competition, but the timing is definitely _interesting._
He want to be made really famous maybe lmao
Lol!
@@alexgallegos6777Except he is already famous
Let’s be real though, no one had noticed that Joey Bada$$ was missing, he hasn’t been popular since that week where he was popular
Happy new year much love ❤️
Kendrick didn't respond to many rappers, even those that were not mentioned didn't get a response. I like Joey but this isn't it, throwing shade at West Coast is a lot for him. I don't see him as a king of NY, I mean let 50 come up with another series and let him act and leave this for a while.
Claiming to be the king of NY when your city don’t even f with you like that is laughable. I like Joey. Never did I think he was great. Or the greatest.
It's just a term people use, and he's definitely the best rapper out new York rn
He put out one of the best rap albums when he was like 17
@@TheeUnknown420 El-P slander right here
@@Vez That was literally 12 years ago. what has he done recently, aside from clout chase?
@@bakedandbeaded you lame af. You’re using the same argument that drake fan uses.
KDot told Joey to work harder to get recognized, NY gon embarrass Joey before Kendrick does. 50 put a tesla battery in his back, let’s pray he doesn’t crashout.
50 is not associated with Joey dude. He just acted in 1 of the shows 50 is apart of. Mann, yall Goofies just say Anything. SMH 🤦♂️
He not tryna beef. This that competition everyone wants. Miss hearing the hunger in his raps
The lil dance he did right at 7:40 .. yeah
Yep that pop out dance
The pop out dance by k dot
@ knoxHill, look at the little dance at 7:41. Seems like the pop out "a minooooor" dance to me😂😂😂😂
Yep, and he says, "Straight 'Like That' "then does the Hotline Bling dance like Kendrick did on the pop out 😂
Black air force ones - Let the party die
I just realized that Conductor Williams produced this track when I heard producer tag. He’s solid!
Stay quiet and just ignore. On to the Super Bowl and GNX tour! ✌🏽
Why? this is good for hip-hop. Theres no hatred here, just friendly competition.
Do Redman album it's pure 🔥
But it’s funny though. This is the same guy who said that thank god for KDot because before him the hip hop was in critical condition but once Kendrick says something provoking, then switches are back. If you look up his interview, he praises JDot. Love this flow though but he needs more than this
It’s all in the game, like Euphoria was just bars until Drake dropped Family Matters. Then it switched to properly heavy, make him bleed shit.
This feels more like “a good exhibition within the game”, as Kendrick said.
@ Don’t give me wrong, I love the bravery and greediness of Joey and he is a talented lyricist but challenging the whole coast, I mean and he is little out of touch with what’s happening in the culture right now and you have Ab-Soul, Daylyt and KDot of course but let’s see. It’s gonna be an amazing year for sure and I am all for it ❤️🫡. Do you think W will respond? I would love to see Soul or Daylyt respond, it would be crazy
Isn't it funny also that it's the same kendrick who said "thank you Drake" for boosting his career when he went on tour with him...
@ isn’t funny that if
you look up interview with KDot when he Is asked who he listens to , he praises Joey Bad Ass and says how talented he is so stop that pointless parallels with Drake. Point is Kendrick doesn’t directly come for someone unless it’s sent for him. He stays in his lane and he is the greatest of his generation and there is nothing anyone can do about it. if you start sneak dissing and freaking around, then you gonna get your head handed to you so let’s chill ! KDot always gave flowers even to Drake. Haters always gonna be haters but he will
still stand tall because he is a real freaking artist and his catalogue is unmatched and consistent.
Yes i was waiting for you to react to this one
No one has reacted to Joey in years tho so idk how this gonna go for him but team west coast for life.
Are we not listening to bars no more ? Is that not what you guys say Kendrick did better than Drake.
@@charlesbarclay8181it’s all about beats now because of Kendrick
This is pure competition! 🍿
You know dot gonna flip everything Joey said at some point too 🤣🤣
I can't understand these east coast people, Drake is Canadian!!!!
Hide your lil sister. Wop wop wop
What about this make y’all think he’s favoring Drake? This is about Kendrick not Drake. Joey been on him since Control
Kendrick needs to do a control part 2
Was Joey Hitting that Kendrick's Dance he did on The West Coast Show with the red pants???
Yes. He also said "Straight Like That" then did the dance
Slick Rick is known as “The Ruler” though not JayZ. I wonder why he use that?
Several New York references
When power falls you and you have to find a way back to your hip hop fans.
Who Ruler are you , when your plural is rural...KDot❤
He also interpellates biggies track kick in the door when he says "I stand tall in this rap thing like yao ming" which is another reference to a east coast legend. However this is also a shot at Kendrick because he interpellated the same song on his track TV off.
Joey been wanting smoke ever since he first Responded to Control lol
Funny kendrick never mentioned him on control so hes not seen as a relevant threat lol.
@@Bruhman1992he didn't mention many rappers, doesn't mean they can't obliterate him in a battle
And control was 12 years ago …
@cosmonaut8968 well joey who's not all that in new York ain't gonna do nothing off this clout chase to get some relevancy lol.
@@cosmonaut8968He won't. He didn't 12yrs ago and didn't with this. NY fell off
I’m going to need a nap after this!! Big adventure ahead!!!
He was at his best 12/13 years ago... People still driding for that, damn.
"Eagle eye" ... callback to Bird's Eye View, the Statik Selektah song he was on with Rae and Black Thought?
Not quite sure why everyone is saying Joey is clout chasing on Kendrick. He's had lyrical smoke for Kendrick for a decade ever since control when Kendrick called out all rappers joey responded and now he's just tryna make a competition again this is sorta joeys control he's aiming at all West Coast mfs but mainly Kendrick. Can't say it's clout chasing if they got history that'd be like saying Kendrick clout chased Drake because Drake was a bigger name and more popular at the time even tho they had history
Joey wasn't mentioned in Control and he centered himself. He was clout chasing then and now.
I see what you're trying to say.
But knowing that Dot has a Superbowl performance soon and then GNX tour the timing just feels too clout chase-y
Drake has been taking shots at Kendrick for 10 years. Kendrick also has an insane amount of grammy's and a Pulitzer Prize recipient. No one who actually looks at credentials would think that Kendrick would've been clout chasing. Period.
Let me you this his 3rd time coming at kendrick in Control kendrick did not mention him by name he still made a song & In 2024 he made song about kendrick during April drake vs kemdrick beef & Now its the third time he is doing this what does that sound like to you?
I noticed how lame some of Kendrick fans are. They’re basically like drake stans at this point.
Rest easy Joey 🕊️
Kendrick didnt even respond to him back in the day? And that's when he was supposed to be in his prime, so why would he respond to him now?😂😂😂
He in his prime now
@revilloteoj1934 Nope, he's washed up., We just have a different self opinion.
@@jacquelinerandle5152 who are you talking about?
ngl if i’m kendrick i wouldn’t think this is enough to be worth my time 🤷🏽♀️ nice attempt but that’s big talk especially considering i don’t even think his own city calls him the “king” of their coast. he’s gotta go at the other rappers in his city and get the rappers over there to step it up first before he tries to come at the entire west coast
Dot too busy planning his Super Bowl appearance as well as his tour, Tyler took it from Dot and already gave it back to JBA. 😂 Dot isnt concerned at this point by any of this lmao. Hes on another level at the moment.
Yes, low hanging fruit- ignore
Your right riding drakes wave
@@Chris-e8k5zDrake is currently not even riding his own wave unfortunately lmao
TBH, Joey is a problem when he mad, Iykyk, Kendrick will get hurt.
😂😂"Another dead Prophet"
I hope this leads to more music, especially for Joey, it's swings and roundabouts we need more East Coast in the collective consciousness, and if anyone can up the East it's Joey, people should remember it was him and Pro Era that made Beast Coast with Flatbush Zombies, and the Underachievers.
Kendrick will not respond, JB is not that important to him.
Fair but JB stood then and now stands again and that’s more respectable than many other chart tops just not doing any
Right
He also said a similar line on killuminati 2 as the movie reel line.
He said “If you don't fuck with cinematic stand still
My life's a movie on the real, you can get shot with your hands on the wheel”
People forget there's a south coast too
The south has basically run hip hop for decades at this point. East coast is irrelevant, west coast just made a comeback
There must be a reason why people forget about south coast lol…
South cost is that pool meme
There is no south coast. Just a south. Unless it’s Florida that’s literally a southern coast. Either way no one talking about it because South has dominated for like 3 decades already
The South doesn't have any real MC's anymore, unless you consider J Cole a Southern rapper.
Nah, he doesn't deserve KDot yet. Let him battle TDE, Daylyt, Tyler, J, peysoh hitta.. Etc.. but the Bronx in me, I would like to see batrlw.some NY first, before he goes after another whole coast
he need help selling records. so now he the king of ny?😂😂ok
knox, i feel you also missed when Joey said "i wont stop til the crowd sings and I'm crowned king", in my mind, in reference to when Kendrick was "crowned king" on stage by Snoop and others and the crowd went nuts.
This isn't really a diss. It's a whine! Attention seeking cry. "What about me?", "I also want sum". At best a bait! You can't respond to every bum. Lol
This is Joey badasss... His entitled to.. Not the Drakes
Historically, this is exactly what the culture has represented…emcees staking their claim to the throne. Hip-hop has always been rooted in competition. While I agree you can’t respond to everyone, Joey is far from irrelevant or a bum, and I think this move by him is great. It pushes the culture forward.
Another solid review by the way bro
Put that truck back in the garage 😅
Knox - you didn't mention 1:54 where he steals kendrick's "this rap thing" in tv off at 2:26. Otherwise, incredible break-down.
Tyler said: “Put dat little Mayback truck in the garage!”
Sounds like he in his feelings and Hating! If it’s a problem wit da WEST get it off yo chest and quit sneak dissing! Catch that Direct Flight ✈️ to CA Boy!
Cringe
Joe still mad that his amerikka album didnt get the loce TPAB (the better album) got