I've been lucky enough to see the SU-57 fly on numerous occasions and (with the current 1st gen engines) it does have a unique and awesome sound - quite unlike anything else.
This is THE video I've been waiting for since the SU-57 started flying - you nailed it - detailed info, clearly stated hypotheticals, points made questioning conventional thinking but free of hyperbole. Really needs timestamps along the lines of Lex Friedman, though. Outstanding.
Imagine India allows China to purchase the su 57. Then India will be facing the J-20, J-35 and su 57. That should be enough incentive for India. Even if they are building their own some day.
@@Toro_Da_Corsa What are you talking about China will never purchase the SU57 since they are and have been for some time now fully committed to developing their own 5/6 gen aircraft.
@@Toro_Da_Corsa Why would China buy the Su-57? The Chinese stealth aircraft appear to be much better. Not comparable to the F-22 and F-35, but at least a good first attempt. The Su-57 is just a glorified 4th gen fighter. Maybe 4.5 at best. If India and China go to war then there’s a better than average chance that it will be a part of a larger war for the Indo-Pacific region, and that India would be allied with the US, Japan, Australia, UK, South Korea, Vietnam, etc.
Idk, I like some of the other vids on this channel, but this is just repeating producers claims about how this is the most amazing aircraft ever. Like, we dont even know if the L-band radar is worth anything, if they can even get it to work correctly, or if it ends up a failed prototype. To say this aircraft is better than anything else at detecting stealth is just repeating propaganda claims. Even stuff like, "the R77 is the russian equivalent of Aim-120", while the actualy state of that thing is mostly unknown. Let alone the powerful datalink capability of the 120, that really makes that missile. And its not like it would be an unknown thing for all of this to be exaggerated; russian, let alone soviet weapons, being presented as worldbeaters on (their own) paper, but underwhelming in reality. We actually know very little about the SU-57, but this is just unproven claims of it being amazing. And reality... the indians didnt want this fighter, the russians still dont seem to have used it in combat. So all palpable data shows that its better to take any claim with a grain of salt.
@@termitreter6545 Su- 57 boli použité v Sýrii aj na Okrajine, len bezvedomí o tom nevedia. Kde sú tie supr F-35 , ktorým Rusi vypli elektroniku a piloti pristáli posraný ani nevedeli kde sa nachádzajú ?
Excellent one. My father used to be an officer in undisclosed east-European anti-aircraft army. My whole life (hobby) is about planes, missiles and weapons and this is exactly it. The most important outcome is being explained here. You never know who you face until you face him. This is a game for two, even official information can be purposely distorted to give an opponent too much of self-confidence. Victory is more important than sales. So - don't rely on whatever there is in the internet, rely on what you really see. This is what we are presented here with little to no lame guesses and Millenium needs to be thanked for showing things in very objective light. What you see is aerodynamic abilities of the plane, as result of the engine, trust vectoring, shape and moving surfaces - that's what you see and what one can judge. And well, this is one hell of aerodynamically perfect machine. I believe it will take years to uncover - for real pilots of this beast - what this thing can do in the air and how to use it. If the rest is in line with the aerodynamic shape - and you don't know that - this may be the ultimate air dominator. Or not... Only time will tell
Dogfighting is dead, missiles have become too good. Thrust-vectoring is a waste of money. The future is all about sensors, data collection/transfer and stealth. The Su-57 is amazing when it comes to aerodynamics because the Russians (who can't see the forest for the trees) still think like they are going to be in some WW2 dogfight. Modern missiles have a 90% effectiveness rate. The F-35 is more numerous than the Su-57 will ever be. The F-35's sensors allow the pilot to see through the plane, helmet-mounted cueing allows the F-35 pilot to fire off-bore missiles that no longer need to even have the plane pointed to track. Those missiles can now change directions and track 180 degrees backwards. The F-35 (which will never be alone due to NATO formation training) can also send targetting data to another planes missiles. In other words, if one plane locks on to a target, but is out of missiles or doesn't have a perfect angle, it can send that targetting information to another plane and fire its' missiles. But the Russian plane has thrust-vectoring?! The whole world understands there has been a paradigm shift, but Russia built an evolution in the Su-27 family line. The Su-57 is a failure because Russians think war is going to be fought like it was in WW2...or their Air Force is less important than their artillery. The Su-57 was built on a faulty paradigm. And as they say in the West: "That leaves them a day late and a dollar short".
Beautiful and amazing aircraft. Thank you for this video. One of the most beautiful ever designed IMO along with the YF-23. Let’s hope we get to see Su-57s at air shows and never in fully armed dogfights.
When the YF23 patent lapsed in 2006, it was perfectly legal for a Chinese engineering student to obtain a copy. The Chinese shared the patent with Russia. In April 2016 the Su57 air intakes were redesigned to copy the YF23, only inverted: (which is odd because the YF23 engines themselves were already upside down/above the wing). In ATF testing the YF23A had superior stealth to the YF22A
This is the first Su57 video I've learned something new on this platform since 2010 lol, but id say, there's probably not a combat aircraft video on the internet I have not seen, and you are the best by far, even better then the guy in the F22 cockpit!!
Hi everyone .... I wrote many comments about Su-57 , especially about radars ( radars are part of the highly integrated and automated two band radar and jamming complex Sh-121 with radar system N036 Byelka and jamm system L402 Himalay as part of it ) .Sh-121 also integrates EW/ESM/RWR/ECM/ECCM systems. Su-57 as 5th gen fighter is now in serial production and soon RuA&SF will have the first operational squadron . Su-57 has in total of 12 radars ( yes , twelve ) ...4 in X band ( high frequency / f=8-12GHz/ -shortwave / λ=3cm / ) and 8 in L band ( low frequency / f=1.4-1.6GHz / - longwave λ=24cm ) . It is the first operational fighter in the world with all around radar coverage ( 360° azimuthal radar envelope ). Four X band AESA radars are... in front , one antenna ( 1526 four -channel TRM ) as frontal and two AESA as SLAR behind it with 358 four channel TRM . 4th X band AESA is positioned in tail boom for rear looking ( search-track ) with 179 four channel TRM . So we have in total of 2242 TRM for frontal scanning of air space with 270° of radar envelope . Must know that centimetric radars are used for search-detect-track-lock ,then for comm, jamm,nav and meteo .Decimetric radars are used for long-range search-detect-track ( especially aircraft with stealth features,LO and VLO ) ,then for jamm and ID-IFF . Eight L band AESA antennas are positioned: two in LEVCONS ,two in wing slats and four in the sides of the wingtipes . Four main antennas have 3 big four-channel TRM each with max pulse output power of 1kW for each of channel ( ID-IFF channels two of them ,one for state ID with so called Parol system and one for international ID system with NATO standard Mk12 channel ) , then radar channel and jamm channel. Decimetric radars measure two target coordinates ( range and azimuth ) ,not the elevation one. Elevation data come from centimetric radars or from IRST type OLS-50M ( 101KS-V ) or from outer source via data-link. Centimetric radars can be used as part of so called OSNOD ( joint system for navigation and multi channel data-link ) and of course as part of jamm system L402 Himalay . Centimetric radars have A2A and A2G regimes ,nav , comm and meteo regimes . Can work in monopulse and pulse-Doppler regimes . Details like frequency agility ,frequency repetition in Medium and High PRF modes , max output pulse power for each of the channel in that modes , Duty Cycle, Peak Power Duty Cycle and other so called ''radar energetic capabilities '' will stay undisclosed . Decimetric radars can work in Mono or Bi static regimes , all AESA radars have active ( beaming ) or passive ( goniometric) regimes. One thing more about decimetric L band AESA ,there are a real gamechanger because there is no stealth fighter in the world who has own skin that is 1/2 or even 1/4 of that long wavelenght . That is pure and clean radar physics . Advantages of N036 Byelka radar system over other fighter radars : has two working bands ( other radars systems only one ,X band ) , has 360° radar envelope ( other especially western fighter radars only 120° , MiG-31BM with N007AM Zaslon-AM has 140° and Su-35S with his N035 Irbis has 240° ) . It has 12 radar antennas in total all other fighters have only one . About new A2A missiles for Su-57 ,some details : There are 5 new missiles , Izdeliye/Product 171-1 ( modification of serial and now operational Izdeliye 170-1 or R-77-1 ) for BVR especialy against incoming fighters , then Izdeliye 180 as first in the world hypersonic cruise A2A missile also for BVR combat , Izdeliye 270 as first in the world A2A missile for engaging enemy fighters in WVR combat and in the rear hemisphere of own fighter ( AESA radar in tail boom is used for engaging and missile has special micro-busters for turning within 180° after launch ) . Then we have Izdeliye 760 ( only A2A missile which can be positioned in underwing weapon bays ) for WVR combat and Izdeliye 810 ( modification of serial and operational Izdeliye 610M or R-37M ) as very long range hypersonic AAM All best to author and others .
For author and others some ''aerodynamic details'' : Su-57 is ''10G'' 5th gen fighter and for comparison , older Su-27 is 9G 4th gen fighter. In real flight conditions that means next parameters ... when flying about Mach 1 , Su-27 can withstand max overload of 9G and when flying about Mach 2 can withstand max 7.5G . Su-57 can whitstand max 10G when flying about 1M and max 9G when flying about Mach 2 . G- overload time limitations for Su-57 are : at 9G 60sec, at 10G 20sec ( all this parameters with pilot of course ) . Max aerodynamic pressure for Su-27 in subsonic speed mode is about 170t ( max 9G ) , 140t in transsonic speed mode ( max 7G ) and 150t in supersonic speed mode ( max 7.5G ) . For comparison , max aerodynamic pressure for Su-57 in subsonic speed mode is about 300t ( max 10G ) , 200t in transsonic speed mode ( max 8G ) , and 250t in supersonic speed mode ( max 9G ) ,all this for specific take off mass . Su-57 is the first in the world serial and operational fighter with supersonic climbing speed ( climb rate and speed in troposphere) . Climb rate at 1000m of height after take off is over 380m/s ( with 50% of fuel and 6 A2A missiles inside the plane with serial AL-41F1 but with new Izdeliye 30 or AL-51F it will be about 400m/s ) . For comparison ,Su-27 has climb rate at 1000m = 300m/s and MiG-29 has 330m/s with constant vertical speed ( climbing speed ) of 1000km/h or M 0.85 and can climb at 10.000m for about 55sec after take off. Su-57 can climb to tropopause ( stratosphere ) under 40sec. About those new engines Izdeliye 30 or AL-51F , can write this , they have dynamic thrust in Full AB mode at 1000m of height ( cold atmo- conditions ) well over 20.000kgs ( kgs of force ) . Coefficient of aerodynamic lift ( Clmax ) for older Su-27 is 1.75 but for newer Su-57 is about 2 . Fo comparison , Su-27 has 62sqm of wing area but Su-57 has 82 sqm and that is 1/3 more. Su-57 has less aerodynamic drag thanks to new geometry of air intakes ( horizontal not vertical geometry and acting as trisonic aero-tunel , so capable for speed of Mach 3 ) , then new all moving and beveled vertical stabilisers with more aerodynamically effective area because vertical stabilisers on Su-57 are in fact rudders at all. So called LEVCON'S , wings and horizontal stabilisers are in one line along the plane and for result have less aerodynamic drag and less RCS . Those so called LEVCON's and all moving vert stabilisers are so important for aerodynamic stability and controllability in all flight regimes and parameters . Must mention that only wing slats have not differential deflection all other aerodynamic surfaces have that ( 10 of them ) . About 10 years ago one author wrote this details ( very precisely and accurately): ''The horizontal tail is all-moving and provides pitch control in all flight regimes by moving in -phase. At supersonic speed it also provides roll control by differential movement .The vertical tails are all-moving . They are widely spaced .They move in -phase to provide yaw control operating as rudders and differentially to increase drag ,acting as an air brake. They are also inclined outward to reduce the radar visibility in the lateral hemisphere. LEVCONS can rotate downwards around their rear edge .Similar to wing slats ,they are rotated to assist control in high AoA, but their most important function is to recover the aircraft in the event of the TVC failure at post-stall AoA . The main wing is equipped wth leading edge flaps and also with flapperons and ailerons. The wing leading-edge flaps are used symmetrically to maintain lift at high angles of attack and adjust the wing profile to the Much number. The ailerons are used at low speed and takeoff and landing and together with flaperons are used to increase lift and for roll control at higher speeds together with horizontal tails. Interestingly ,flapperons and ailerons can move all together up and down ( on both wings ) , so symmetrically or assymetrically ( on one wing up ,on the other down for rolling ). The all-moving vertical tails sit on short fixed pylons that contain the actuators and air intakes for engine compartment cooling and heat-exchangers .One purpose of the pylons is to make room for a longer bearing for the vertical tail pivot ,beetwen the top of the pylon and the lower surface of blended wing . This reduces loads and allows bearings and structure to be lighter. Su-57 has a blended wing-body design, the core of the structure is the centroplane a long-chord ,deep-section inner wing to which the rest of the airframe components the forward fuselage and widely separated engine nacelles ,wings and tail surfaces are attached and in beetwen it is flattened , providing lift and also space for internal payload. The overall shape with the flat central fuselage ( centroplane) ,smoothly blended wings with very big area and integration of thrust multi- axes vectoring with all movable surfaces consist what Sukhoi characterizes as integral aerodynamic design or integral triplane ( LEVCON's ,wings and all movable hor and vert tails ) aerodynamic configuration. The flight control system has in total of 14 effectors -12 moving aerodynamic flight control sufraces and two moving gasdynamic control surfaces or engine nozzles. '' Some practical results achieved by prototypes of first stage with AL-41F : Vmax (real) at 11000m 2.6 Mach, level flight at 24.500m of height, rate of climb at 1000m with 50% of fuel( pre flight) 382m/sec, 360 degrees horizontal combat turn without TVC ( sustained and instanteones) under 15sec with 9G and 10G overload armed with A2A missiles inside. All best to author !
@@jb76489 Yes , 12 Su-57 is operational so far. That is incorect, state contract was signed in 2018 for 2 pre-serial then for 76 serial aircraft .Serial production will be until the end of 2027. 72 Su-57 will equip 3 fighter aviation regiments with two sqn , 12 fighters each and with one sqn of loyal wingman S-70 Ohotnyk-B combat UAV's.
@@tombombadil8709 I'm sure someone over at Sukhoi thought it was a hot paint scheme. Considering today's youth, I'm surprised they didn't paint an anime waifu on it to attract pilots.
Seems like he makes the mistake of taking Russia’s performance claims at face value. If everything on the aircraft actually worked, then it would be most impressive. But like most Russian hardware, it’s mostly hype.
@НАТО в шоке, США обосрались whataboutism ? But to be honest, F-15 is my fav jet . And dont question its record. But Su-35 has not shot down anything either.
Excellent video, as usual. Just two points: You stated that a Super Hornet out maneuvered an SU with thrust vectoring. I’ve seen this video. The US pilot was flying a legacy Hornet, possibly a two seater of the Malaysian AF. I agree with you that TV nozzles have traditionally been used for instantaneous pitch. The Hornet series have excelled with high pitch rates & high AOA without resorting to TV. The USN reserve pilot was working as an instructor for the Malaysian AF. His callsign is “Gonky”. Second, the issue of TVs effect on efficiency & stealth: You stated that TV on the SU57 could be used for trim, eliminating drag (& also keeping these surfaces “stealthy” or flush). The F-22 already does this. Before his recent death, Tomcat pilot “Snort Snodgrass commented that while flying formation behind a Raptor, he watched the TV nozzles “twitching several times a second”. This anecdote only tells of how it works in close formation and at the speed on that occasion ( it was a legacy flight ) at an airshow. Still , it’s unlikely the designers would leave this advantage “on the table” for 20+ years.
i think i heard this gonky guy on another channel and he was talking about dogfighting su-27 and said that he also lost to it but isn't going to post every single video and that su-27 is very capable
Gonky was contracting for BOEING and was in Malaysia as a part of the F18c upgrade program (to bring the F18c's to Superhornet level Avionics) Yes Gonky's video is VERY clear to point out that he LOST to the Su30MKM plenty of times and that its BVR capability is also extremely good if not better than the Upgraded Malaysian hornets. He also mentions the way the Su30 was able to turn the tables, he dips his nose and mentions it doing an "eye watering" maneuver and has its nose on him before he could react, mainly because the vectoring allowed the MKM to complete its turn significantly faster and beyond the capability of the Hornet to respond. The Malay hornets were upgraded with Avionics that give parity to the Superhornet including HMCS, they are much better than the average legacy hornet. Obviously the MKM's are also positioned closer to China , based in the north of Malaysia because the MKM is still the primary air superiority platform of the RMAF... that by itself is plenty telling into the perceived capability of the MKM versus the upgraded F18C , which as mentioned is basically at parity with the Super hornet due to upgrades
Another stunningly precise evaluation. Excellent work, thank you. A thought on the L band and X band. The L band radar may be used in a search function, then passing off to the C band for tracking of stealth aircraft. Just a thought. Thank you again.
Those folks who clam the Su-57 L band radar (15cm-30cm wavelenght) can't track a US stealth fighters are fooling themselves. The wing span of a jet fighter is huge so an leading edge phased array would be able to find the bearing (left right) of a target to within a small fraction of a degree. The range could also be determined to within a few meters. We then have the problem of the elevation. A two row dipole array can probably get a half power beam width of 20 degrees and be steered by mechanical rotation or phasing. The ability to find the angle is probably 10-20 times better so about a degree. A degree is an error of 300m at 20km but in elevation only. There are other ways to direction find, for instance the radio goniometer as was used in the British Chain Home Low omni directional radar. Sometimes simply called a direction finding loop. B.T loops etc. -You are right, the X band radar can be cured by the L band. A target to feint on an X band that is would be ignored as possible noise can be confirmed by the L band. an Infrared Search and Track can also confirm. -So our chinese and russian fighters may not be as stealthy they are still very stealthy and the problem for western fighters is they don't have L band.
@@williamzk9083 L-band AESA ( 8 pcs ) in Su-57 as mentioned before are there especially against aircraft with stealth features ( planes / fighters and bombers/ ) ,missiles and so on. Wavelenght is exactly 24cm and is 8 times bigger then in X band. So it means that e.g. something what L band can see ( detect-track) at 400kms , X band can't see at all or can only at 100 or 200kms ... Aircraft that have RCS ( frontal aspect ) e.g. 1m2 in X band have RCS in L band of 10m2 . I wrote before some details about first public showing of AESA L band antenna at MAKS 2007 .It was big surprise then because it was and is only decimetric search-track radar on one fighter. About that two rows of waveguiders in L band AESA , that are for different angles of searching . Upper row is for search-track when LEVCON's and wingslats are in down position , row under that is for search-track when LEVCON's and wingslats are in normal position. About beam width , it is lower then 10 degrees in azimut but is 70-90 degrees in elevation . There is no scanning in elevation only in azimuth( distance and azimuth measuring) . L band AESA have Mono and Bi static working regimes and all 4 main antennas ( two in LEVCON's and two in wingslats) can work alltogether -simultaneously or separetaly. L band AESA 's TRM have 4 chanels , two for ID/IFF ( domestic and international) , radar search and jamming of enemies L band assets. Because of phase and amplitude characteristics of L band AESA there is no stealth aircraft that can hide or stay undetected. Stealth planes can be detected and tracked from several hundreds of kms .
@@williamzk9083 What is the difference beetwen X and L band AESA in Su-57 ? First it is size and mass. Those L band AESA antennas are so massive and heavy. 1.6m in diameter ( 4 main ones) , where only one TRM have almost 5kgs of weight. In X band AESA radars we have a couple of hundreds or thousends of TRM , in L band we have a couple of them . Max output power of one channel in X band AESA TRM is a couple of Watts but in L band AESA is a couple of hundreds or thousends of Watts ( about 1kW) . Waveguiders have widht of 12cm or 1/2 of wavelenght and one TRM has row of 4 waveguiders ( each for one working channel) so there are 3 big TRM in one main L band AESA antenna with 3 rows of waveguiders ( 12 pcs) of course in 2 rows for different searching angles. All AESA antennas both in X and L band have only one electric net for power and it is 27V DC-net. All of them have cooling by air and aircraft fuel , also all of them have not ' stand by mode' so after turning on they begin to illuminate signals into airspace ( Illumination mode).
@@williamzk9083 yeah but with radars that small with that few transmit- received modules and with the limited power available on a plane what is the detection range going to be? Probably pretty small, esp against a VLO aircraft. And the F-35 has L band radar as part of its ECM suite.
"If it looks good, it flies good" Funny that I've always thought it was Nikolay Nikolayevitch Polikarpov who said that. Well, live and learn, as it said.
Wow ur a goldmine, damn i wish i knew your video and explanation of stealth, wavelenghts and L bands, before i was going through quora arguing with everyone... Your knowledge is insane.
Just a suggestion, but for long videos over 20m, it would be helpful to timestamp them so viewers who don’t have an hour or more can skip to the parts they don’t already know or want to learn more about.
Stellar video :) The extra work put in here really shows. I think I could sum up the Su-57 very concisely (as in, "what it's for" or how it would be employed) as an extension on the topic of asymmetrical warfare. But I think doing so would perhaps offer too much insight into counter-stealth tactics. And Russia isn't the only near peer contestant. It's not terribly often that I think better of saying something to protect 'Russian' military secrets, hehe. The engineers at Sukhoi are really sharp. Despite severe under-funding and countless QC problems, they always find ways to impress.
Great video, ive got to say the most beautiful military aircraft by far anywhere, hands down, the shape , the graphics, and that sound, makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up . I
7:37 can't agree su37 and su47 are two different aircraft one is a super maneuverable flanker testbed for thrust vectoring tech and the other is a testbed concept for reverse wing angle
So SU-57 is basically like a flying radar. A group of SU-57 will be like a group of sharks searching their prey and supplying information to each other.
@@jb76489 And how much of a plane that asphyxiate your own pilots have you managed to manufacture? And how much have you wasted un another plane before your own military calls it crap?
@@levenusine5095 lmao is that the best you could come up with? An incident from five and a half years ago? As for how many, current count is 860+ which is more than 143 f35s per su57. More than 172 if you only count uncrashed su57
I really like the Su-57. Despite the teething problems that affect all aircraft development, I think it looks like a well designed, well thought out design. Thank you for your comprehensive coverage.
The internal weapon bay is not pressurized. On stealth aircraft, the weapon bay needs to have no gaps so that radar cannot get into the bay or reflect off the edges of the bay doors. However, if you do this the bay will be airtight. Because they are loaded on the ground there will be a bunch of air inside the bay that cannot escape when the plane goes to high altitude, and the pressure difference will blow the bay doors off the aircraft. Stealth aircraft get around this by having systems on board that equalize the pressure in the bay, but the SU-57 doesn’t have this; although it doesn’t need one, because there’s a gap in the bay doors that you can stick your pinky finger through. You want proof of that? Just look at 1:28:02.
i always listen to your videos while i am in my bed in the night. and i most of the time cant fall asleep bcs its so interesting and exciting. anyway, i would be interested in a eurofighter video!
Hey thank you very much for the very interesting video. You put so much work in to it one can tell the amount of research and blood and sweat you put in. Awesome work please keep that up! THere is no other channel that comes close to the detailed content you put out especially regarding the Russian technology. I really appreciate it. It is so interesting to learn and get to know their different apporach to things and it changed my mind in regards to Russian technology. But I guess it is obvious because I really did not know much about it so how could I form an educated judgement/perspective on it. Not that I am an expert now not in the least but I understand it a little bit better. It is very sad to see people who have no understanding of it much less the detailed and deep knowledge one needs to assess it but nevertheless they get emotional and spread hate. Its sad to see that you get into their crossheir of hate even though you did so much to put that amount of information in your content and work. Some people tend to just hate really sad to see, maybe there is somekind of clinical diagnosis for this kind of destructive behaviour I do not know but I am pretty sure that it is not a rational nor healthy way to live and approach information or social interaction. But I am thankful that you do not get discouraged by them and keep doing your great work.
Good full analysis - thank you for the video you really did a talented review and you know what you are talking about and put a lot of work - thank you , but the main combat power is in the Soviet developments , in most Soviet aircraft were laid triple safety margin for future modernization, we do not take to create equipment for the image . The real combat effectiveness lies in its service life, roughly speaking there is a new image equipment at the moment - but it is much more efficient to engage in modernization of the old ones, the potential for 30-40 years ahead, this is done so that the production of new ones is not so expensive. The Su-57 PAK-FA is a platform for future technologies, what is presented now is the first generation. It is not customary for us to saw and dispose of the aircraft carcass - because the light metal "carcass" is more valuable and after modernization and maintenance the aircraft becomes new. Our military industrial complex still uses SU-25 , you can see a video of how after hitting the missile the pilot lands the plane on the second engine. The plane was developed in 1980 and still serves effectively, supersonic bombers also saved after the lost cold war. Therefore, the issue of the number of new aircraft is not as relevant as the Modernization of aircraft that are in mothballs and waiting to be upgraded. So do not judge Russia's potential by the number of new aircraft - look at the total number. And also we actually closed the sky for civil aviation - thank you very much, now our designers have received hundreds of tenders and exorbitant resources for development for decades to come, thank you for clearing our country of competitors. This is the dawn of Russian aviation:)
The goal of NATO and the US State Department was always the final fulfilment of Generallplan Ost, a Nazi dream unfulfilled after Stalingrad. And with the latest G7 meeting wherein one of the topics was the "decolonisation" of Russia (Balkanisation and breakup into individually weak and dependant satrapies), NATO merely said the quiet part out loud. This sanctions regime and airspace closure is going to force the oligarchs of United Russia, which have always been toadies for Western imperialism, to do what they always feared and hated: to actually develop Russia, and to realign it back on to the autarkic path. But not all is roses. Russia is still quite dependant upon import of machine tools, particularly from Europe. It could of course import them from China, but there was a time when the finest mills, lathes and shapers bore the stamp of the Soviet Union, and not some German imprint. At this stage it remains to be seen also, whether Russia can actually secure itself in areas beyond the military industrial complex. If it repeats the economic failures of the USSR; with a vibrant and formidable military industrial complex, but a moribund and unproductive civilian industry, it will face yet another tribulation, and this time it will not have the youth of the population to weather another such storm.
@@MonMalthias This is the attempted blockade of Russia. Resources. What the Western globalists have failed to take into account. Resources. The essence of currency is a piece of paper, it is a contract that proves the value, I think that the next stage will not be the exchange of resources for rubles, but the exchange of resources for technology. For example Germany - they have been delivering Siemens machine tools by roundabouts since 2014 after the separation of Crimea from Ukraine, it was an autonomous republic and had the right to do so, it is not customary to talk about it in the West, but not a single law was broken and the procedure was carried out according to all the principles of democracy. Germany is very dependent on Russia and they need resources to grow. They have tried twice in the last 200 years to take over Russia, the only way out for them is deals. Soon we will see a barter system, and then either your country goes to the stone age and non-competitive price of technology or you negotiate with Russia and everyone lives happily ever after. So the split of European society and the European Union due to the aggressive policy of the globalists is not far off. Many people don't care what the other continent thinks, they care about their own country and peace with Russia seems closer to them. Do not forget that there is also the Asian region, which has gained former opportunities and is now flourishing. If BRICS introduces its own currency, this is a separation from the current system and the world will be divided into at least two parts, the U.S. acted as a guarantor of peace and abused their opportunities, using them as a weapon against the countries that believed in the dollar and strengthened the U.S. economy. They took Russia's reserve by simply robbing it, every country saw what a guarantor the U.S. was. At the moment Russia is one of the few countries that can completely close the fence and live self-sufficiently, but there will be no USSR 2.0, there will be some symbiosis based on the idea of the Country. I have never seen the Russian people so united in decisions and in solidarity with the President. As for technology, what we cannot get will come from the Asian region and the barter system from Europe. And the choice there is either you roll back to the living standards of 1980 or work and cooperate as before and everyone is fine. Peaceful skies to you!
@@renatkatana1826 The way I see it, Russia is still plagued by the globalist infestation from the Yeltsin era. Elvira Nabiullina is a toady for the US-led IMF style of economics, focusing entirely on monetary interventions. Similarly there are people in the ministries of industry and transport, that insist that actually import substitution is not important, Russia can import from "friendly" countries like China instead. They seem to forget that before the fall, the USSR was exporting to China and India, not the other way around it is today. Furthermore, Russia's ministers that get carted around in Mercedes and other German cars, do an injustice to Russian automobile manufacturers. They seem to forget too that Russia too was a great and powerful manufacturer, second only to the United States, and were it not for the huge mismanagement of Soviet leaders after Brezhnev, Lada and Zil and other Russian car and truck manufacturers would dominate the world in the way GM and Toyota do today. Sergey Glazyev has long held, that Russian ministries need to be purged of those who are still colonised with the Washington-IMF mind virus. It would be more accurate to say that Russia is doing well _despite_ these thieves and layabouts, and could do _better_ without them.
@@MonMalthias You are all correct, but the first steps began and so did the arrests and purges among the main administration, especially the liberals who had put the country under the globalist system. Nabiullina was not removed precisely in order to remain in contact with the Western elites and the globalists, if everything is unleashed right now it will be a total cruelty in the world, and to avoid chaos she was left, she is pro-American and such a bridge is necessary, as soon as she finishes her role she will be released from office. Arrests began in all institutions of power and a mass Russian-style flogging began. The agenda is as follows: we know in whose interests you are working - now you have a choice: either you work in the interests of the country or we will destroy you, with a reservation on status, no harsh repression because no one has cancelled the global crisis. And instead of amputating the swelling, the bet was on treatment. After the collapse of the Soviet Union and the lost Cold War, Western agents infiltrated everything and became part of the country. But the entire fifth column gave itself away, whether it was an accident or a real plan, but it's a fact. The dollar will go away gradually, I think in 5-10 years or maybe 20, a sharp rejection would collapse the world order, better this unjust than the real chaos and disorder. Regarding factories, of course I would like to know that our businesses are capable of creating everything, but you can't be the best at everything. Frankly speaking cars were lousy during the USSR, but if you take the Military Complex machinery is great, if you take the private sector - the trucks, they are excellent and competitive. What I mean is that we all should live in peace and support each other, and Germany has excellent machine tools and high-tech solutions. We just need to trade fairly and develop this industry together. There is a lot to be improved in Russia, but the first step to freedom has begun, we literally were not allowed to live quietly, the beginning is done and it is good. These 2 years will be difficult and then there will be an inevitable growth, because everything will stabilize, besides, it became clear from the sanctions what we should work on and what levers of pressure to destroy. The power of the West in Russia is fading, money is no longer the main tool, it is a question of faith and ideas, as the value of papers was discredited when they took from Russia half of its share of the super incomes. We live in interesting times)) The war has been going on for 200 years so it will still lead to peace and globalization but at 4 angles and not 1 as it was.
@Plato I do not think that the Russian Air Force will enter an active phase in these territories, only accompaniment and support. Ukraine has never been a target, because there are Slavic people inside the country and almost everyone has relatives there, including me. The goal is to remove the influence of the Anglo-Saxon lobbyists and the puppet state and remove any influence on the Slavic peoples at the edge of the borders and create a buffer zone. A full-scale operation is possible in the Baltics, but there are also many Slavs and people with Russian passports. All this is similar to cutting out the pus, which is inevitably felt by all, on decision-making is also likely to be no attack, not a short-term victim is needed - but a traitor and preferably a coward. Too heroic a death will be mistaken and it will all go into the shadows, capitulation and media capitulation are needed, so SWO will be long until the very end.
IN 2018 Sukhoi ran a competition between rival radars. The competition was held in Syria against US F22 and Israeli F35. KRET won, with their ROFAR photonic radar which uses a fluorescent Beryllium crystal laser through a beam splitter . The signal returns through a counting device, which counts individual photons bouncing back. This photonic radar has a reported range of 500km , or 310 miles. With Photonic radar, the Su57 can see every US stealth fighter.
I really enjoy your videos, you come with just good general tech info and not a mess "we're the greatest in world" propaganda attached to it. You attempt to come with some wisdom, understand, and balance to the issues that tag along with these subject at times can be very touchy subjects. So keep up the good work you're doing. Some people don't like see that there is often more than one way to "skin a cat", as the saying and not aircraft is perfect. They all have faults in some manner or other just all human do. Oh and your talk on the 5 problems with the F-35 is truly a problem with our whole idea of modern warfare and possibly a very great weakness as well a strength. Like going for knees and feet of a person taller; high tech could be ours. So again Thank you!
@@Millennium7HistoryTech i understand thank you. in addition i wanted to appreciate your effort of this video series. i completely watched it and it is very informative. i'm happy this wasn't a russian patriotic propaganda video, anti-western, or misinformations. therefore complimentos, we need more stuff like this
Indian partnership helped Russia a lot...but at the end Indians exited leaving behind advanced composite technology to Russia but in turn they learnt how to develop high performance fighters from Russia...
perhaps that was the idea from the start.. The new requirements they suddenly expressed, didn't make much sense and sounded like an excuse to get out of it.
*India did not take any part in the technical development of the Su-57, India cannot give Russia any technology, since Russia is one of the leaders in the aerospace industry, and India is the second league!*
@@spectre3954 *I am an employee of the UAC and I know very well that India financed, all the funds that India invested went to the development of the AL-41F1 engine and its adaptation for production in India, in the future they will go to modernize the Su-30K and Su-30MKI of the Indian Air Force, also this engine is the engine of the first stage of testing for the T-50, it was decided that the first 24 vehicles that should enter the standing units of the Russian Aerospace Forces by the end of 2024 will be equipped with the AL-41F1 engine, which most likely gave reason to say to the Indian press that they are participating in the development fifth-generation fighter, this was the end of Indian funding for the project, as India began to put forward its own vision of a new fighter for the Indian Air Force, which fundamentally did not coincide with the concept of the Russian Aerospace Forces, the Su-57E (export version) was presented at the Aero India 2023 air show, but as far as I know, the leadership of the Indian Air Force took the direction to purchase European and American equipment, and most likely the topic of the Su-57 is closed for India, perhaps There will be some kind of cooperation on the Su-75, but it’s too early to talk about this until flight tests begin!*
I don't see how Indians could help or even co produce the fighter. It would complicate production and in the end key parts, engines, avionics would all be Russian. India is miles behind in everything that matters, they could probably contribute parts of the fuselage. Too uneven to work. In the end they will probably buy it and receive kits for montage just like Su-30
*ONE IMPORTANT ADDITION:* The Russians says that the thrust vector thing also helps to survive the plane in case of its tail/fins damaged. The plane can be manoeuvred this way.
thrust vectoring is also used in supersonic maneuvering. notching more efficiently is extremelly important to BVR combat, couple that with the increased angle limit of the radar locking on the Felon and you have a fighter capable of quicly going from nose hot to flanking while still keeping radar lock on the bandit which will loose lock by defending.
Excuse me if i look boring, just wanna add something useful to the subject, to this very based in depth video. T-50 cockpit you show on the pictures is a Su-35S cockpit actually. Look at the angle between side stand of front canopy and fuselage, then look at the same spot on T-50 from the front - there is no angle, it's straight.
@@Millennium7HistoryTech 37:24 is a Su-35 cockpit - look how the canopy connects to the body. Then at 37:59 you show the jet from the front and there it's clearly seen that T-50 canopy is different.
Most underrated aviation channel This is what the thrust vectoring Russian aircraft fanbois lack, doing simple research on the matter. They argue it makes Russian aircraft better. When in all reality, the U.S. Air Force already tested it on their own aircraft AND they even tested it on Russian made aircraft themselves.
TV is not what makes the Russian aircraft better. It's many other things that do that. Well, better in terms of avionics. A pilot from Italy that flew a certain Sukhoi and an F16 said it was like comparing a race car to a truck in terms of how they flew. Look at the maneuvers that the Su35 can do for example , it's sci-fi compared to what any western aircraft came do. th-cam.com/users/shortswoQsWq4aDWo
@@derbigpr500 Yeah but it's not WWI. Now most action happens BVR and acrobatics bleed energy from the plane. Or so I've heard. There are some applications for 'agility' but not enough to prioritize when designing a jet.
I like your videos on the SU-57. Your part 4 states that there is L band radar on the plane and this can only be the case if the plane was twice as large. S band is most likely along with x band. As for using the DAS with the HUD, I am curious if the SU-57 has an auto defend feature like the F-35 using these systems. Good job. Keep up the good work.
With how "automated" Ka-52 with Vibtesk DIRCM responding missile threat, i would believe the system on Su-57 will more complete on responding missile threat
Not necessarily L-band is decimetric and given how thick and long the SU-57s wings I’m sure they can fit enough emitters perhaps not to track and detect an aircraft but at least point the N036 in the right direction to where the target.
Believe what you want. I just passed on information. The L-band radar is twice as wide as the SU-57. It is S-band that the plane has. @@princesofthepower3690
I think that combination of stelth technology and thrust vectoring was intended to allow for outmaneuvering missiles. Aka maneuvering is such a way that achieving lock was impossible or to cause missiles to lose lock. I'm a merely aviation enthusiast not engineer , so i might be completely wrong
@@spectre06x why than did they put in so much effort in to making its so maneuverable ? All those resources could been used for development of ,, correct " engines . Propaganda reasons maybe ?
@@RRninja-jq6lp To understand the answer to this question you must look at the history of both Russian air warfare and the combat records of modern Russian fighter jets. In short, the Su-57 is not designed to take on American fighters despite the heavy propaganda about it rivaling the F-22..which is doesn't come close to doing. It it designed to overpower lower tier threats that Russia and country's who may buy export models would face. Only one Russian built fighter has a positive air-to-air combat record, and only one Russian built fighter has successfully shot down a western built fighter since 1988. With the exception of that one fighter, every Russian built fighter to have scored an air to air kill has scored against older Russian built fighters. The Flanker's only kills have been against other Russian built planes. Same goes for the MiG-29. Even the most advanced Flanker with the best avionics and radar systems is not used by Russia, and it retrofitted with American, Israeli, and European avionics. This little fact shines light that in the near future, Russia and her allies may face air forces that have more recent and more advanced Fulcrum and Flanker models. The Su-57 is not designed to fight the F-22 or F-35. It is designed to fight the Su-30 and advanced MiG-29s. Furthermore, it's stealth is aimed at defeating mid tier Surface to Air threats built by Russia, exactly like what we are seeing in Ukraine. Russia has planned to annex Ukrain and restablish the Soviet Union for decades. The Su-57 was supposed to be part of that, but it's fallen short and fallen behind. It may or may not ever see combat.
@@spectre06x That is a lot of crap and pure delusion for one comment. Russia has very different doctrine of air operation than US does and they built their planes according to their doctrine, and so does the US, therefore they build airplanes that excel in different roles, as it was mentioned in the clip above. Therefore comparing f-22 to SU 57 is like comparing apples and oranges, both are fruit and that is where similarities end. The claim that Russian planes are designed to fight other Russian planes is deranged, to put it mildly. The fact that Russian planes do fight other Russian planes is simply the result of Russia being one of the major exporter of military equipment in the world, hence it does happen, same way the collision of two toyotas do happen simply by statistical probability. Russia does not export its planes in the most equipped version, ever. Export versions of their planes always are downgraded if compared to the versions designated for domestic market, hence making any claims on superiority of US planes fighting some 3 rd tier aviation from, as your ex president subtly stated, "shithole countries" is, again, deranged or rather delusional. There was a time, long time ago, during Korean War where top tier US planes faced top tier Russian planes, piloted by Russian pilots and it did not go well for the US. Now cherry on top, if all the above was simply deranged or delusional, your comments on the Ukraine and Russia trying to reestablish Soviet union are borderline insane. Hey, thanks for the laugh.
LO aircraft can be seen on any band of radar, just their RCS is super low, a S/N problem. With L band and sensor fusion, the computer can take the faint returns from LO aircraft on shorter wavelengths and combine them with the long-wave radar info to create potentially firing solution worthy tracks. At a minimum situational awareness would be greatly enhanced if this array works. If the datalink bandwidth and fusion processing power exists to support it, the Su57s could work collaboratively as a mini-AWACS which would be able to massively improve track resolution on LO targets. The more L band returns one can fuse, the more accuracy can be achieved. Additionally with long range AA missiles, the fight profile takes them to very high altitudes, and from that (top) aspect, the LO capabilities of target aircraft are not as strong. Guidance only needs to get a missile close enough to engage its active seeker
Amazing vid as ever! Well done and indeed a great info on the Felon! Can you fins some info for us for a future vid of the diff in the approach towatds stealht coating typer used by the west and Russia. Diff between RAM and the anti radar paint coating used on the Su-57 that needs a lot less taking care of ... ? :)
The "unexpected maneuver to confuse missile guidance" theory is interesting, but I don't think it holds up under analysis. Modern Air to Air missiles have three phases of flight for long-range engagements: 1, "loft" phase - the missile climbs to an altitude where it can accelerate to its best speed for the engagement. 2, "midcourse" phase - the missile uses track data (either from the launching aircraft, or via datalink from AWACS for the most modern iterations) to predict where the target will be and intercept it, 3 - "terminal" phasse - the missile acquires the target with its own sensors and maneuvers to fuzing range. The midcourse range is the range where it would be theoretically possible to confuse a missile be exhibiting unusual acceleration. However, in this phase, the ranges and closure times are so long that the relatively tiny anomalies which could be generated by a thrust vector assisted maneuver are irrelevant. The goal of the missile in this phase is not to hit the target, but to guide to a position where the terminal phase can take over. the 'basket' in which the terminal phase can catch the target is very large (several miles wide), and the TVC capability cannot maneuver the plane enough to 'trick' the missile into missile by that wide a margin. In terminal phase, there is no algorithm to trick: the missile will guide using "proportional navigation" - that is it will steer itself to maintain a crossing-velocity of zero with the target. As long as the missile has enough energy to accelerate faster than the target while in this phase, it WILL hit, regardless of how "weird" the target moves.
Dear Sir. Thank you very much for all the great video's you produce for us. I would love to see or hear your comments about stealth aircraft central Bombay's. Usually the Bombay style are all of the door types!! Why don't they use the rotating system like the Blackburn Buccaneer. What understood from an old SAAF pilot was this system help the aircraft not to lose speed or slow down to open it's Bombay's. It is also more aerodynamic at would it not be more stealthily???
On the subject of aerodynamics (min 11:17), I ask myself: What actually defines a "lifting body"? In many airplanes, part of the lift is generated by the fuselage. Some more, less in others. So, at what point do we start talking about a "lifting body"? The question is not meant to be a criticism. I'm really wondering, there must be a definition for it. I really enjoy watching your videos and have already learned a lot. Great channel!
My favourite fighter in the world. Only channel with honest review. Great great video. Still waiting for some oth sukhoi products like SU-70, SU-30sm2, SU-35 MIG 41
Over estimating your opponent is dangerous too. When you dump so much money into your defense budget that your citizens have had enough of another tax increase after new tax after another tax increase...people start to get mad. The rich leave and those who can't, they become creative when it comes time to pay the governments ever increasing bills.
Su-57 is the most flat-bodied (low-observable, high-lift, unlike all Western types) combat-jet I've ever seen (and remember now), with a huge weapons-bay (crucial, unlike the F-22's small-one) and IRST (unlike F-22). Unlike the F-35, it is high-altitude, high-performant, super-maneuverable, long-range, maintainable, rentable, survivable (two motors, set widely apart), rear-radar, scalable (growth capability internally and externally) and has no known alternative scheduled.
It still takes skilled hands plus hours and hours and hours in the seat to be effective with such an awesome aircraft, and it is AWESOME. But if the SU-57 and the F-22 were to face off in the sky today, there would be a Russian military funeral, tomorrow.
I concur with most of this, though I’ll point out that both F-15 and F-22 are decent lifting body designs too. The F-15 has even been known to have an entire wing sheared off in a mid-air collision, and still flew back to base and landed safely (Israeli Air Defense Force, video is on YT). That’s like the holy grail of lifting body design.
@@edgetwins529 in an interview with British test pilots who flew the first su27's back in the 90's. They quote "found the plan very easy to fly because the planes were designed with low levels of training in mind". American designs (from cars to planes) are always over complicated. The rest of the world thinks it's smarter to build simpler and simpler systems, but not the west.
@@singular9 Even more so to maintain, build and to operate on a messy-field. US bought its afghans Russian Mi-8, because they failed to maintain and properly fly the Blackhawk. Similarly, ultra-rich Saudi-Arabia has hardly ever got any Hecliopters and lost the war in mountainous Yemen. It also gifted away to Egypt the two large and new helicopter-carriers it bought from France.
@@singular9 I'm sorry my friend, but "easy to fly" does not translate to mastering the geometry of dogfighting or BVR combat in a 5th gen fighter. The American's have the upper hand due to the yrs of service the F22. It's not who carries the bigger stick it in this case. Not by a long shot. And if the rest of the world, as you put it, prefers "simple", then why do they still order So many F-35's, I wonder. Those things are friggin everywhere. Certainly there's an upside to western complicated fighters that outweighs "easy to fly"
I’ve read that the Su-57 is being used now over the front line of the Russo-Ukraine war. As an AWACS and for remote missile guidance. Has anyone heard of this?
Thanks, re one of your clips around the 50 min mark the tail view had 3 x radiation symbols. Is that purely for awareness of the high power radar transmitter or is there isotopes also present?
i guess maybe the su 57 radars works simmiliar to the "anti stealth" radarkomplex Nebo M M55ZH6M for S400 and other air defense systems , where the radar uses combined frequencys .
I believe L-band antenna at relatively pretty high power output, it will only can achieve the detection range of the X-band radar for the same RCS (i forgot how big the RCS). But it assuming that the L-band antenna installed both on leading edge flap and Levcon. This will make cooling a very big issue. So most analysis only predict the L-band for electronic warfare. But who knows, maybe Russia have secret algorithm that can differentiate pretty low energy L-band echo from the noise.
The idea that Russia is technologically inferior is just arrogant stupidity. And it is an idea that is mostly spread by a military industry that are focused on maximizing THEIR PROFITS, not providing the best piece of hardware to their buyers. For good examples of this, consider the discussions about tanks in the Kremlin when they were getting more detailed information about the Leopard 2, Challenger 2 and M1 Abrams. Design teams were asked if they could create something equal or better and they were pretty much just shrugging and saying of course we CAN. But it would also have a comparable cost per unit(or at least somewhere between 50% and 80%). So, 10-20 T-72s or a single "supertank"? The choice was so obvious that no "supertank" projects were seriously pursued by the USSR again. The other, even more blatant show of why it is stupid is when people were mocking, IIRC it was the MiG-31, for having really oldstyle analog parts as part of the radar electronics. And then someone in the 90s went and tried simulating the radar and found that, oh dear, those parts actually allowed the radar to scan BETTER and more accurately, increasing potential detection range by at least 10%. Also, there's the absurdly obvious difference in focus. USA has drastically more aircraft, sure, but their airdefense systems utterly sucks compared to Russia. The primary role of USA aircraft air to ground missions are fulfilled by Russia either by missiles or by artillery depending on range. And on a cost vs effectiveness comparison, that is vastly better, there's barely any comparison even possible.
I agree with you, especially on the tank issue. While I was in the Navy we picked up a B2 Spirit at 120 mile range while using old valve tech in the 1022 radar set back in the 90s There's something to be said for compromise.
Which is why Russia can't attain air superiority over Ukrainian airspace? And Why Russian tanks have taken such heavy casualties Russia has had to take old T-62's out of storage?
@@georgethompson1460 "And Why Russian tanks have taken such heavy casualties Russia has had to take old T-62's out of storage?" Dont you CIA puppets ever read? T-62s were for the DPR/LPR forces for use as mobile armored cannons, not tanks. Because noone in the DPR/LPR forces has training for anything newer than those. We only learned this half a year ago, i'm sure you will catch up eventually. And the claims about Russian losses are grossly exaggerated. When you actually bother to check all those "photo evidence" you generally find that around 80% of the claimed Russian losses are Ukrainian with some paint or photoshopping added. "Which is why Russia can't attain air superiority over Ukrainian airspace?" Your lack of insight is as severe as your ignorance and incompetence. They HAVE AIR SUPERIORITY. They've had it since March last year. Ukraine can't fly ANYTHING without getting at least half of them shot down or forced to drop their missions just to try to survive. That is what air superiority means. But when there are still hundreds at minimum, potentially still thousands of MANPADs on the ground, along with what remains of the Ukraine SAMs, you're not going to just fly around over that area, that's the realm of idiots. So why don't you tell the world exactly how laughably technologically inferior Israel is then? Because they almost failed COMPLETELY in 1973 against a tiny fraction of the number of threats and against threats that were easy to find and deal with as well as dramatically less capable compared to what Ukraine has now. If Iraq in the 90s had only the NUMBERS of SAMs and MANPADs that Ukraine has today, USA would have lost hundreds of aircraft if it tried the same airwar as it did then. Russia so far has lost 2 dozen aircraft. Ukraine over 300. Conservatively counted. It's probably over 400. 3/5 Russian aircraft lost happened in the first month while they were wiping out the Ukraine airforce and destroying the majority of SAMs. Air superiority does NOT mean that your side can fly around as they like, it means that your airforce can do their missions while the enemy airforce cannot. Russia achieved air superiority in March or April last year.
The cope is real. " Russia is technologically inferior is just arrogant stupidity." no its just true. "spread by a military industry that are focused on maximizing THEIR PROFITS" man if you think the west is bad, just wait till you learn about this dumpster fire called russia. "For good examples of this, consider the discussions about tanks in the Kremlin when they were getting more detailed information about the Leopard 2, Challenger 2 and M1 Abrams. Design teams were asked if they could create something equal or better and they were pretty much just shrugging and saying of course we CAN. But it would also have a comparable cost per unit(or at least somewhere between 50% and 80%). So, 10-20 T-72s or a single "supertank"? The choice was so obvious that no "supertank" projects were seriously pursued by the USSR again." yes russians have always prefered cheap and crappy "The other, even more blatant show of why it is stupid is when people were mocking, IIRC it was the MiG-31, for having really oldstyle analog parts as part of the radar electronics. And then someone in the 90s went and tried simulating the radar and found that, oh dear, those parts actually allowed the radar to scan BETTER and more accurately, increasing potential detection range by at least 10%." source: trust me bro "And on a cost vs effectiveness comparison, that is vastly better, there's barely any comparison even possible." remember that in order to be effective, you have to hit your target and unless russia really hates empty fields and civilian buildings, theyre not very good at that bit
I reckon the Russian planes look awesome, I know styling is not the name of the game BUT they look so good, at least to me. Very enjoyable a bit over my head in some areas but still enjoyed it.
I agree with your point of perceived gap in technology. Biggest example is the Rocket engine technology Russia developed like 35 years ago still better or at par with modern spacex engines.
The F22 - the US 5th generation fighter - has been in service since 2005. The Su-57, Russia's 5th Gen fighter, came into service in 2020. By the time Russia has full deployment of this platform in 2028, the F-22 platform will have been upgraded to 5th Gen+ fighter using some NGAD tech and the 6th generation fighter will be near it's in-service date. Su-57's are 15 years too late to the theatre - by 2028 - there will be a 6th Generation option available AND just as many 5+ generation F-22's and thousands of F-35's. Given that Russia could see the F-22 in operation for over a decade, the Su-57 SHOULD improve upon the Raptor. The biggest question is not if the Su-57 is "better" but what real impact will the Su-57 have against the platforms that will exist in the late 2020's and beyond. It's a beautiful plane though!
6th gen rumors are just that, rumors, propagated by fanatics. It currently doesn't matter if you have a 5Th gen aircraft or not since in world war 3 countries will lose hundreds of aircraft, so why spend money on 5th gen aircraft that you will lose anyways.
Ngad will not be ready in 2028. The thing you fail to understand is that the technology used in su-57 will continue to evolve into the 6th generation just as it will with Ngad. The Russians are closer to hypersonic flight than USA and the do not believe in stealth same way as USA. They will continue push forward with electronic warfare much like SAAB has done with Gripen E. Plus with addition of SU-70 Hunter B stealth will not be what we think. I would also assume they have started their 6th generation plane already.
48:35 "The main antenna outputs 11kW". That seems like a lot of power for an antenna. The outlet on your wall can do 2kW. Normally, antenna power is measured in mW.
@@Millennium7HistoryTech Sorry my friend it is not ( radar peak power ) . So first we must know for which working mode of radar stands that value in kW ??? High or Medium PRF ? Another thing to know, AESA radars do not have so called ''stand by mode'' in which transmitter emitts radar signals to the reflector of the antenna but without emitting them to airspace . You are right about that signal polarisation on the three forward AESA radars/antennas in Su-57 but must know one thing more. We have also superposition of signals ( more signals into the main one ) and so on . For comparison ( that issue about those kW's ) . Radar N035 Irbis has two transmitters . The main one has max pulse power of 20kW's . That max pulse power is on High PRF mode but only in that ''stand by mode'' . Even this value is only when the main transmitter gets electric power from 27V DC-net . What is the max output power of radar N035 Irbis ( on High PRF mode with 27V DC net) ??? It is 800kW's ! So how can AESA radar N036 Byelka have that ( only) 11kW's of output power ??? Every TRM is multichannel and every channel has max output power that is measured in a couple of Watts or 10W and little more. All this radar energy is going into airspace as mentioned before without so called ''stand by mode''. By the way , in that ''stand by mode'' ( which have radars with classic transmitters like TWT and so on ) , we have one issue / detail / and that is about converting radar energy into heat energy. There are my comments and answers about Su-35S and his radar N035 Irbis and also about Su-57 th-cam.com/video/cieLN4_tn0A/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/p8C06dHhlXc/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/cMMjCwMxd0c/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/rxrOAkXaPFA/w-d-xo.html Wish You all best !
I didn’t think TG Maverick depicted the Su-57 unfavorably. It showed America’s best pilots being deathly afraid of it in every scene it was discussed or appeared. For example, Maverick reiterating multiple times that even the best pilots in the world would be at a disadvantage vs this aircraft, Maverick chewing out Rooster for even considering dogfighting a Felon in an F-18, and their battle plan going to great lengths to neutralize or avoid encounters with the Felon. In the fights they did have with the Felon, Maverick had to use every trick in his arsenal to survive, and still got shot down by one anyway, as did Rooster. And of course the big WTF moment when the Felon did that insane twist maneuver to evade a missile. Overall it was pretty respectful, within the framework that the Americans would have to win since it’s an American movie.
@@5133937 I somewhat agree, but the fight in the final part did show it very unfavorably. F-14 took down 2 of them, and the 3rd one was destroyed, too. A DCS channel Growling Sidewinder did several simulations of Su-57 vs F-14, and vs F/A-18, it's fun to watch, and ended very badly for the Felon's opponents. But I get that it couldn't win in a US-made movie🤓
@@copetimusmaximus3363 yep it’s a Tom Cruise vehicle.. it was always going to end one way. But still as I and others have said elsewhere the Felon got substantial verbal respect in the film. Surprised me
Your series on this aircraft as others have commented is unequalled on you tube. I'm glad you corrected the TBO on Russian aircraft from 1,000 to 4 000.hr.
I've been lucky enough to see the SU-57 fly on numerous occasions and (with the current 1st gen engines) it does have a unique and awesome sound - quite unlike anything else.
This is THE video I've been waiting for since the SU-57 started flying - you nailed it - detailed info, clearly stated hypotheticals, points made questioning conventional thinking but free of hyperbole. Really needs timestamps along the lines of Lex Friedman, though. Outstanding.
Imagine India allows China to purchase the su 57. Then India will be facing the J-20, J-35 and su 57. That should be enough incentive for India. Even if they are building their own some day.
@@Toro_Da_Corsa Why would China purchase Su-57?
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What are you talking about China will never purchase the SU57 since they are and have been for some time now fully committed to developing their own 5/6 gen aircraft.
@@Toro_Da_Corsa How does India have any say in whether or not China can purchase the Su-57?
@@Toro_Da_Corsa Why would China buy the Su-57? The Chinese stealth aircraft appear to be much better. Not comparable to the F-22 and F-35, but at least a good first attempt. The Su-57 is just a glorified 4th gen fighter. Maybe 4.5 at best. If India and China go to war then there’s a better than average chance that it will be a part of a larger war for the Indo-Pacific region, and that India would be allied with the US, Japan, Australia, UK, South Korea, Vietnam, etc.
Your explanation is quite good. thanks for the self-explanatory details. I find Russian aviation very intrigued and unique.
This is the most comprehensive Su-57 in-depth video on TH-cam hands down!
Idk, I like some of the other vids on this channel, but this is just repeating producers claims about how this is the most amazing aircraft ever.
Like, we dont even know if the L-band radar is worth anything, if they can even get it to work correctly, or if it ends up a failed prototype. To say this aircraft is better than anything else at detecting stealth is just repeating propaganda claims. Even stuff like, "the R77 is the russian equivalent of Aim-120", while the actualy state of that thing is mostly unknown. Let alone the powerful datalink capability of the 120, that really makes that missile.
And its not like it would be an unknown thing for all of this to be exaggerated; russian, let alone soviet weapons, being presented as worldbeaters on (their own) paper, but underwhelming in reality.
We actually know very little about the SU-57, but this is just unproven claims of it being amazing. And reality... the indians didnt want this fighter, the russians still dont seem to have used it in combat. So all palpable data shows that its better to take any claim with a grain of salt.
@@termitreter6545
Su- 57 boli použité v Sýrii aj na Okrajine, len bezvedomí o tom nevedia.
Kde sú tie supr F-35 , ktorým Rusi vypli elektroniku a piloti pristáli posraný ani nevedeli kde sa nachádzajú ?
Su-57 is already not a prototype it's already in productin(small production numbers but increases every year)@@termitreter6545
@@termitreter6545I have been used in the Ukraine war British intelligence confirms it
0:00 - 5:40 *Update*
*Aerodynamics and Structure*
6:01 Program History
10:19 Aerodynamics and Configuration
16:30 - *Propulsion*
18:36 AL-41F1
21:13 Performance Part 1
23:26 Izdelye 30
27:35 Thrust Vectoring
34:24 - *Avionics & Systems*
34:37 Systems Configuration
38:55 Sensor Fusion and Automation
45:40 - *Radars, ESM, ECM, IFF*
46:44 Radars
54:06 ECM
56:30 IFF
58:46 - *Video and Infrared Sensors*
58:46 101KS EO Suite
1:00:09 101KS-V IRST
1:01:15 101KS-U/01 & 02 MAWS
1:02:25 101KS-O/N DRICM
1:04:02 101KS-P Infrared Imager/Low Visibility Landing system
1:04:53 101KS-N Targeting Pod
1:05:38 UV-50-01 Chaff & Flare dispenser
1:07:35 - *Weapons*
1:07:35 Weapon Bay Configuration
1:08:15 Weapon Ejectors
1:09:02 Air to Air
1:12:48 Air to Ground
1:15:55 - *Stealth*
1:16:40 Misconceptions and Dumb Comments Response
1:23:45 Explaining RCS principles and analysis
Thank you!
Thank you os much for doing this! You are an absolute star!
buddeh, you are the man. that's how it's done.
an organized mind!
The hero we need, but don’t deserve.
Excellent one. My father used to be an officer in undisclosed east-European anti-aircraft army. My whole life (hobby) is about planes, missiles and weapons and this is exactly it. The most important outcome is being explained here. You never know who you face until you face him. This is a game for two, even official information can be purposely distorted to give an opponent too much of self-confidence. Victory is more important than sales. So - don't rely on whatever there is in the internet, rely on what you really see. This is what we are presented here with little to no lame guesses and Millenium needs to be thanked for showing things in very objective light. What you see is aerodynamic abilities of the plane, as result of the engine, trust vectoring, shape and moving surfaces - that's what you see and what one can judge. And well, this is one hell of aerodynamically perfect machine. I believe it will take years to uncover - for real pilots of this beast - what this thing can do in the air and how to use it. If the rest is in line with the aerodynamic shape - and you don't know that - this may be the ultimate air dominator. Or not... Only time will tell
Salute to the Red Army.
Dogfighting is dead, missiles have become too good. Thrust-vectoring is a waste of money. The future is all about sensors, data collection/transfer and stealth. The Su-57 is amazing when it comes to aerodynamics because the Russians (who can't see the forest for the trees) still think like they are going to be in some WW2 dogfight. Modern missiles have a 90% effectiveness rate. The F-35 is more numerous than the Su-57 will ever be. The F-35's sensors allow the pilot to see through the plane, helmet-mounted cueing allows the F-35 pilot to fire off-bore missiles that no longer need to even have the plane pointed to track. Those missiles can now change directions and track 180 degrees backwards. The F-35 (which will never be alone due to NATO formation training) can also send targetting data to another planes missiles. In other words, if one plane locks on to a target, but is out of missiles or doesn't have a perfect angle, it can send that targetting information to another plane and fire its' missiles. But the Russian plane has thrust-vectoring?! The whole world understands there has been a paradigm shift, but Russia built an evolution in the Su-27 family line. The Su-57 is a failure because Russians think war is going to be fought like it was in WW2...or their Air Force is less important than their artillery.
The Su-57 was built on a faulty paradigm. And as they say in the West: "That leaves them a day late and a dollar short".
No need for time, this will not be the ultimate air dominator, it is a lame duck
@@wadopotato33 Did you even watch the video?
@@most_sane_piano_enthusiast I did watch the video...and?
Beautiful and amazing aircraft. Thank you for this video. One of the most beautiful ever designed IMO along with the YF-23. Let’s hope we get to see Su-57s at air shows and never in fully armed dogfights.
When the YF23 patent lapsed in 2006, it was perfectly legal for a Chinese engineering student to obtain a copy. The Chinese shared the patent with Russia. In April 2016 the Su57 air intakes were redesigned to copy the YF23, only inverted: (which is odd because the YF23 engines themselves were already upside down/above the wing). In ATF testing the YF23A had superior stealth to the YF22A
Best video on TH-cam about the Su-57. The detail you provided cannot be found anywhere on TH-cam. Excellent work
This is the first Su57 video I've learned something new on this platform since 2010 lol, but id say, there's probably not a combat aircraft video on the internet I have not seen, and you are the best by far, even better then the guy in the F22 cockpit!!
the guy im F-22 cockpit?
@@swordsman1137 th-cam.com/video/lf1uQF38ZeA/w-d-xo.html
Hi everyone ....
I wrote many comments about Su-57 , especially about radars ( radars are part of the highly integrated and automated two band radar and jamming complex Sh-121 with radar system N036 Byelka and jamm system L402 Himalay as part of it ) .Sh-121 also integrates EW/ESM/RWR/ECM/ECCM systems.
Su-57 as 5th gen fighter is now in serial production and soon RuA&SF will have the first operational squadron . Su-57 has in total of 12 radars ( yes , twelve ) ...4 in X band ( high frequency / f=8-12GHz/ -shortwave / λ=3cm / ) and 8 in L band ( low frequency / f=1.4-1.6GHz / - longwave λ=24cm ) .
It is the first operational fighter in the world with all around radar coverage ( 360° azimuthal radar envelope ). Four X band AESA radars are... in front , one antenna ( 1526 four -channel TRM ) as frontal and two AESA as SLAR behind it with 358 four channel TRM . 4th X band AESA is positioned in tail boom for rear looking ( search-track ) with 179 four channel TRM .
So we have in total of 2242 TRM for frontal scanning of air space with 270° of radar envelope . Must know that centimetric radars are used for search-detect-track-lock ,then for comm, jamm,nav and meteo .Decimetric radars are used for long-range search-detect-track ( especially aircraft with stealth features,LO and VLO ) ,then for jamm and ID-IFF . Eight L band AESA antennas are positioned: two in LEVCONS ,two in wing slats and four in the sides of the wingtipes . Four main antennas have 3 big four-channel TRM each with max pulse output power of 1kW for each of channel ( ID-IFF channels two of them ,one for state ID with so called Parol system and one for international ID system with NATO standard Mk12 channel ) , then radar channel and jamm channel.
Decimetric radars measure two target coordinates ( range and azimuth ) ,not the elevation one. Elevation data come from centimetric radars or from IRST type OLS-50M ( 101KS-V ) or from outer source via data-link.
Centimetric radars can be used as part of so called OSNOD ( joint system for navigation and multi channel data-link ) and of course as part of jamm system L402 Himalay . Centimetric radars have A2A and A2G regimes ,nav , comm and meteo regimes . Can work in monopulse and pulse-Doppler regimes . Details like frequency agility ,frequency repetition in Medium and High PRF modes , max output pulse power for each of the channel in that modes , Duty Cycle, Peak Power Duty Cycle and other so called ''radar energetic capabilities '' will stay undisclosed .
Decimetric radars can work in Mono or Bi static regimes , all AESA radars have active ( beaming ) or passive ( goniometric) regimes. One thing more about decimetric L band AESA ,there are a real gamechanger because there is no stealth fighter in the world who has own skin that is 1/2 or even 1/4 of that long wavelenght . That is pure and clean radar physics .
Advantages of N036 Byelka radar system over other fighter radars : has two working bands ( other radars systems only one ,X band ) , has 360° radar envelope ( other especially western fighter radars only 120° , MiG-31BM with N007AM Zaslon-AM has 140° and Su-35S with his N035 Irbis has 240° ) . It has 12 radar antennas in total all other fighters have only one .
About new A2A missiles for Su-57 ,some details : There are 5 new missiles , Izdeliye/Product 171-1 ( modification of serial and now operational Izdeliye 170-1 or R-77-1 ) for BVR especialy against incoming fighters , then Izdeliye 180 as first in the world hypersonic cruise A2A missile also for BVR combat , Izdeliye 270 as first in the world A2A missile for engaging enemy fighters in WVR combat and in the rear hemisphere of own fighter ( AESA radar in tail boom is used for engaging and missile has special micro-busters for turning within 180° after launch ) . Then we have Izdeliye 760 ( only A2A missile which can be positioned in underwing weapon bays ) for WVR combat and Izdeliye 810 ( modification of serial and operational Izdeliye 610M or R-37M ) as very long range hypersonic AAM
All best to author and others .
For author and others some ''aerodynamic details'' :
Su-57 is ''10G'' 5th gen fighter and for comparison , older Su-27 is 9G 4th gen fighter. In real flight conditions that means next parameters ... when flying about Mach 1 , Su-27 can withstand max overload of 9G and when flying about Mach 2 can withstand max 7.5G . Su-57 can whitstand max 10G when flying about 1M and max 9G when flying about Mach 2 . G- overload time limitations for Su-57 are : at 9G 60sec, at 10G 20sec ( all this parameters with pilot of course ) .
Max aerodynamic pressure for Su-27 in subsonic speed mode is about 170t ( max 9G ) , 140t in transsonic speed mode ( max 7G ) and 150t in supersonic speed mode ( max 7.5G ) . For comparison , max aerodynamic pressure for Su-57 in subsonic speed mode is about 300t ( max 10G ) , 200t in transsonic speed mode ( max 8G ) , and 250t in supersonic speed mode ( max 9G ) ,all this for specific take off mass .
Su-57 is the first in the world serial and operational fighter with supersonic climbing speed ( climb rate and speed in troposphere) . Climb rate at 1000m of height after take off is over 380m/s ( with 50% of fuel and 6 A2A missiles inside the plane with serial AL-41F1 but with new Izdeliye 30 or AL-51F it will be about 400m/s ) . For comparison ,Su-27 has climb rate at 1000m = 300m/s and MiG-29 has 330m/s with constant vertical speed ( climbing speed ) of 1000km/h or M 0.85 and can climb at 10.000m for about 55sec after take off. Su-57 can climb to tropopause ( stratosphere ) under 40sec.
About those new engines Izdeliye 30 or AL-51F , can write this , they have dynamic thrust in Full AB mode at 1000m of height ( cold atmo- conditions ) well over 20.000kgs ( kgs of force ) .
Coefficient of aerodynamic lift ( Clmax ) for older Su-27 is 1.75 but for newer Su-57 is about 2 . Fo comparison , Su-27 has 62sqm of wing area but Su-57 has 82 sqm and that is 1/3 more. Su-57 has less aerodynamic drag thanks to new geometry of air intakes ( horizontal not vertical geometry and acting as trisonic aero-tunel , so capable for speed of Mach 3 ) , then new all moving and beveled vertical stabilisers with more aerodynamically effective area because vertical stabilisers on Su-57 are in fact rudders at all. So called LEVCON'S , wings and horizontal stabilisers are in one line along the plane and for result have less aerodynamic drag and less RCS .
Those so called LEVCON's and all moving vert stabilisers are so important for aerodynamic stability and controllability in all flight regimes and parameters . Must mention that only wing slats have not differential deflection all other aerodynamic surfaces have that ( 10 of them ) .
About 10 years ago one author wrote this details ( very precisely and accurately):
''The horizontal tail is all-moving and provides pitch control in all flight regimes by moving in -phase. At supersonic speed it also provides roll control by differential movement .The vertical tails are all-moving . They are widely spaced .They move in -phase to provide yaw control operating as rudders and differentially to increase drag ,acting as an air brake. They are also inclined outward to reduce the radar visibility in the lateral hemisphere.
LEVCONS can rotate downwards around their rear edge .Similar to wing slats ,they are rotated to assist control in high AoA, but their most important function is to recover the aircraft in the event of the TVC failure at post-stall AoA .
The main wing is equipped wth leading edge flaps and also with flapperons and ailerons. The wing leading-edge flaps are used symmetrically to maintain lift at high angles of attack and adjust the wing profile to the Much number. The ailerons are used at low speed and takeoff and landing and together with flaperons are used to increase lift and for roll control at higher speeds together with horizontal tails. Interestingly ,flapperons and ailerons can move all together up and down ( on both wings ) , so symmetrically or assymetrically ( on one wing up ,on the other down for rolling ).
The all-moving vertical tails sit on short fixed pylons that contain the actuators and air intakes for engine compartment cooling and heat-exchangers .One purpose of the pylons is to make room for a longer bearing for the vertical tail pivot ,beetwen the top of the pylon and the lower surface of blended wing . This reduces loads and allows bearings and structure to be lighter.
Su-57 has a blended wing-body design, the core of the structure is the centroplane a long-chord ,deep-section inner wing to which the rest of the airframe components the forward fuselage and widely separated engine nacelles ,wings and tail surfaces are attached and in beetwen it is flattened , providing lift and also space for internal payload. The overall shape with the flat central fuselage ( centroplane) ,smoothly blended wings with very big area and integration of thrust multi- axes vectoring with all movable surfaces consist what Sukhoi characterizes as integral aerodynamic design or integral triplane ( LEVCON's ,wings and all movable hor and vert tails ) aerodynamic configuration.
The flight control system has in total of 14 effectors -12 moving aerodynamic flight control sufraces and two moving gasdynamic control surfaces or engine nozzles. ''
Some practical results achieved by prototypes of first stage with AL-41F : Vmax (real) at 11000m 2.6 Mach, level flight at 24.500m of height, rate of climb at 1000m with 50% of fuel( pre flight) 382m/sec, 360 degrees horizontal combat turn without TVC ( sustained and instanteones) under 15sec with 9G and 10G overload armed with A2A missiles inside.
All best to author !
@@aviator77migsukhoi34 the have that squadron yet? They were supposed to have 52 three years ago and 160 by 2025
@@jb76489 Yes , 12 Su-57 is operational so far. That is incorect, state contract was signed in 2018 for 2 pre-serial then for 76 serial aircraft .Serial production will be until the end of 2027. 72 Su-57 will equip 3 fighter aviation regiments with two sqn , 12 fighters each and with one sqn of loyal wingman S-70 Ohotnyk-B combat UAV's.
@@aviator77migsukhoi34 You seriously think the Russian economy and defense industry is still on track for this?
@@markallen6433 Yes I do of course. Russian economy and defence industry work better than ever.
Its the best channel out there on a real aviation. You do an amazing work.
Thank You for your work this is a fantastic video you've made here. You're getting even better. I don't know how you were already the best 👍
I give them this, the plane looks great. Its a good looking aircraft.
thats true. sukhoi makes nice looking aircraft
Yes!
Sukhoi aircrafts, especially the Su-27 and all its subsequent derivatives are stunningly beautiful aircrafts.
If it looks nice, it flies well... :D
@@tombombadil8709 I'm sure someone over at Sukhoi thought it was a hot paint scheme. Considering today's youth, I'm surprised they didn't paint an anime waifu on it to attract pilots.
No, It looks like Russian Junk metal scrap.
You have the best practical aircraft tech videos, bar none.
No matter what anyone says about Russia, but it feels like the author really likes the su-57 :)
I would suggest that author loves aviation and aircrafts
No matter from what country they are from
Who doesn't
I like every aircrafts, too bad there will be less and less different variant of aircrafts when everyone just use F-35.
Seems like he makes the mistake of taking Russia’s performance claims at face value. If everything on the aircraft actually worked, then it would be most impressive. But like most Russian hardware, it’s mostly hype.
@@bluemarlin8138 I wonder if anyone's claims have nothing in common with reality
Thank you so much for posting an in-depth update about this subject! Keep up the fabulous work. Thousands of people are rooting for you!!!
This is an incredible video! Every other felon vid on this platform is regurgitate. Subbed
Like the Su-27 the 57 is gorgeous.
Yes , but looks don't kill
@НАТО в шоке, США обосрались whataboutism ?
But to be honest, F-15 is my fav jet . And dont question its record.
But Su-35 has not shot down anything either.
@@junkookbts1273 but one got shot down in Ukraine 🤣
@@NationChosenByGod by its predecessor , no less.😆
@@NationChosenByGod F15 is shooting down too. With SAM. Wright?
Excellent video, as usual.
Just two points:
You stated that a Super Hornet out maneuvered an SU with thrust vectoring. I’ve seen this video. The US pilot was flying a legacy Hornet, possibly a two seater of the Malaysian AF. I agree with you that TV nozzles have traditionally been used for instantaneous pitch. The Hornet series have excelled with high pitch rates & high AOA without resorting to TV.
The USN reserve pilot was working as an instructor for the Malaysian AF. His callsign is “Gonky”.
Second, the issue of TVs effect on efficiency & stealth:
You stated that TV on the SU57 could be used for trim, eliminating drag (& also keeping these surfaces “stealthy” or flush). The F-22 already does this.
Before his recent death, Tomcat pilot “Snort Snodgrass commented that while flying formation behind a Raptor, he watched the TV nozzles “twitching several times a second”. This anecdote only tells of how it works in close formation and at the speed on that occasion ( it was a legacy flight ) at an airshow. Still , it’s unlikely the designers would leave this advantage “on the table” for 20+ years.
i think i heard this gonky guy on another channel and he was talking about dogfighting su-27 and said that he also lost to it but isn't going to post every single video and that su-27 is very capable
Gonky is on videos here on YT with Mover.
Gonky was contracting for BOEING and was in Malaysia as a part of the F18c upgrade program (to bring the F18c's to Superhornet level Avionics)
Yes Gonky's video is VERY clear to point out that he LOST to the Su30MKM plenty of times and that its BVR capability is also extremely good if not better than the Upgraded Malaysian hornets. He also mentions the way the Su30 was able to turn the tables, he dips his nose and mentions it doing an "eye watering" maneuver and has its nose on him before he could react, mainly because the vectoring allowed the MKM to complete its turn significantly faster and beyond the capability of the Hornet to respond.
The Malay hornets were upgraded with Avionics that give parity to the Superhornet including HMCS, they are much better than the average legacy hornet. Obviously the MKM's are also positioned closer to China , based in the north of Malaysia because the MKM is still the primary air superiority platform of the RMAF... that by itself is plenty telling into the perceived capability of the MKM versus the upgraded F18C , which as mentioned is basically at parity with the Super hornet due to upgrades
Didn't miss the previous indepth analysis. Not going to miss this either. Thanks.
Another stunningly precise evaluation. Excellent work, thank you. A thought on the L band and X band. The L band radar may be used in a search function, then passing off to the C band for tracking of stealth aircraft. Just a thought. Thank you again.
Those folks who clam the Su-57 L band radar (15cm-30cm wavelenght) can't track a US stealth fighters are fooling themselves. The wing span of a jet fighter is huge so an leading edge phased array would be able to find the bearing (left right) of a target to within a small fraction of a degree. The range could also be determined to within a few meters. We then have the problem of the elevation. A two row dipole array can probably get a half power beam width of 20 degrees and be steered by mechanical rotation or phasing. The ability to find the angle is probably 10-20 times better so about a degree. A degree is an error of 300m at 20km but in elevation only. There are other ways to direction find, for instance the radio goniometer as was used in the British Chain Home Low omni directional radar. Sometimes simply called a direction finding loop. B.T loops etc.
-You are right, the X band radar can be cured by the L band. A target to feint on an X band that is would be ignored as possible noise can be confirmed by the L band. an Infrared Search and Track can also confirm.
-So our chinese and russian fighters may not be as stealthy they are still very stealthy and the problem for western fighters is they don't have L band.
@@williamzk9083 L-band AESA ( 8 pcs ) in Su-57 as mentioned before are there especially against aircraft with stealth features ( planes / fighters and bombers/ ) ,missiles and so on.
Wavelenght is exactly 24cm and is 8 times bigger then in X band. So it means that e.g. something what L band can see ( detect-track) at 400kms , X band can't see at all or can only at 100 or 200kms ... Aircraft that have RCS ( frontal aspect ) e.g. 1m2 in X band have RCS in L band of 10m2 .
I wrote before some details about first public showing of AESA L band antenna at MAKS 2007 .It was big surprise then because it was and is only decimetric search-track radar on one fighter.
About that two rows of waveguiders in L band AESA , that are for different angles of searching . Upper row is for search-track when LEVCON's and wingslats are in down position , row under that is for search-track when LEVCON's and wingslats are in normal position.
About beam width , it is lower then 10 degrees in azimut but is 70-90 degrees in elevation . There is no scanning in elevation only in azimuth( distance and azimuth measuring) . L band AESA have Mono and Bi static working regimes and all 4 main antennas ( two in LEVCON's and two in wingslats) can work alltogether -simultaneously or separetaly.
L band AESA 's TRM have 4 chanels , two for ID/IFF ( domestic and international) , radar search and jamming of enemies L band assets.
Because of phase and amplitude characteristics of L band AESA there is no stealth aircraft that can hide or stay undetected. Stealth planes can be detected and tracked from several hundreds of kms .
@@williamzk9083 What is the difference beetwen X and L band AESA in Su-57 ? First it is size and mass. Those L band AESA antennas are so massive and heavy. 1.6m in diameter ( 4 main ones) , where only one TRM have almost 5kgs of weight. In X band AESA radars we have a couple of hundreds or thousends of TRM , in L band we have a couple of them . Max output power of one channel in X band AESA TRM is a couple of Watts but in L band AESA is a couple of hundreds or thousends of Watts ( about 1kW) .
Waveguiders have widht of 12cm or 1/2 of wavelenght and one TRM has row of 4 waveguiders ( each for one working channel) so there are 3 big TRM in one main L band AESA antenna with 3 rows of waveguiders ( 12 pcs) of course in 2 rows for different searching angles.
All AESA antennas both in X and L band have only one electric net for power and it is 27V DC-net. All of them have cooling by air and aircraft fuel , also all of them have not ' stand by mode' so after turning on they begin to illuminate signals into airspace ( Illumination mode).
@@williamzk9083 yeah but with radars that small with that few transmit- received modules and with the limited power available on a plane what is the detection range going to be? Probably pretty small, esp against a VLO aircraft. And the F-35 has L band radar as part of its ECM suite.
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Už zase neviditeľná F-117, ktorú odfajčila stará S- 125 ?
Snivaj ďalej čo kto môže.
Welcome back! I am glad you are doing better.
"If it looks good, it flies good"
Funny that I've always thought it was Nikolay Nikolayevitch Polikarpov who said that. Well, live and learn, as it said.
see also: "Only beautiful planes made by good people fly great"
(c) A.N.Tupolev
The SU57 is a beautiful beautiful bird
Copy of YF-23
@@junkookbts1273 not even close. Is nothing like YF-23, F22 or F35.
@@junkookbts1273 lmao cOpY
@@liammarra4003 yes , COOOOOOOPPPPPPYYYYYYYY and PASTEEEEEEE
@@euunul it is
Hello from Serbia. Great video! Thanks man!
You took part of my vacation with this video but never mind I enjoyed every bit of it.
After Topgun i don't think f14 is so cool , but that black SU57 is badass.
Thrust Vector Magic.!!!
In depth? Brah it's an hour and a half. Awesome bro
Man, you have this in podcast format? Your content is really good. Keep up the good work
No, no podcast, sorry
@@Millennium7HistoryTech well in TH-cam the content is more rich, since you can use footage. Looking forward for your next analysis!
Wow ur a goldmine, damn i wish i knew your video and explanation of stealth, wavelenghts and L bands, before i was going through quora arguing with everyone... Your knowledge is insane.
You are an interesting guy...continue.
As always your videos are superior! Much respect!
Great video and explanation, totally unbiased. Thanks!
Your vids are unmatched.
Best analysis of the SU 57 ever.
Amazing video, you really explained the Su57 well. You de man
I see Su-57, I press like😂
Me too!
Me three!
I see 5th generation fighter.
Yep
Me too.
Just a...BLIZZARD of information...and you ask good questions. Awesome video. Thnx. 4 posting.
A lot of work, better comprehension of this plane, thanks a lot !
Just a suggestion, but for long videos over 20m, it would be helpful to timestamp them so viewers who don’t have an hour or more can skip to the parts they don’t already know or want to learn more about.
U could do that!
It can be chapterised by author.
Your profile picture being blurry is so hilarious to me
You sound like a jealous Western troll. We don't mind about details, we have the time
This is a video you don't want to skip parts of.
LOL i love the "by the Soviets" *awkard smile & look at the camera* "oops" moment :D
Stellar video :) The extra work put in here really shows.
I think I could sum up the Su-57 very concisely (as in, "what it's for" or how it would be employed) as an extension on the topic of asymmetrical warfare. But I think doing so would perhaps offer too much insight into counter-stealth tactics. And Russia isn't the only near peer contestant. It's not terribly often that I think better of saying something to protect 'Russian' military secrets, hehe. The engineers at Sukhoi are really sharp. Despite severe under-funding and countless QC problems, they always find ways to impress.
Great video, ive got to say the most beautiful military aircraft by far anywhere, hands down, the shape , the graphics, and that sound, makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up .
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Beautifully done analysis. It was very educational. Thank you
7:37 can't agree su37 and su47 are two different aircraft one is a super maneuverable flanker testbed for thrust vectoring tech and the other is a testbed concept for reverse wing angle
Your 'speculation' is very well informed! I really enjoy your content. I am curious as to your background, as I doubt this is just a hobby for you
@НАТО в шоке, США обосрались .....
@НАТО в шоке, США обосрались You must've been living under a rock for a long time..
So SU-57 is basically like a flying radar. A group of SU-57 will be like a group of sharks searching their prey and supplying information to each other.
Spartacus
You got doktrin from western media
You Just go to rusia and see with your own eyes,
Except the Russians have only managed to make 6 of the bloody things and crashed one of them lmao
@@jb76489 And how much of a plane that asphyxiate your own pilots have you managed to manufacture? And how much have you wasted un another plane before your own military calls it crap?
@@levenusine5095 lmao is that the best you could come up with? An incident from five and a half years ago? As for how many, current count is 860+ which is more than 143 f35s per su57. More than 172 if you only count uncrashed su57
@@levenusine5095 Sorry, but the SU-57 Is dogshit... The build quality Is on par with homemade african civilian aircrafts
Allways love you're vids, detailed analysis presented with a sense of humour 👌. Give Otis hugs an kisses from me.
You make great video's ,, in depth and so accurate
I really like the Su-57. Despite the teething problems that affect all aircraft development, I think it looks like a well designed, well thought out design. Thank you for your comprehensive coverage.
The internal weapon bay is not pressurized. On stealth aircraft, the weapon bay needs to have no gaps so that radar cannot get into the bay or reflect off the edges of the bay doors. However, if you do this the bay will be airtight. Because they are loaded on the ground there will be a bunch of air inside the bay that cannot escape when the plane goes to high altitude, and the pressure difference will blow the bay doors off the aircraft. Stealth aircraft get around this by having systems on board that equalize the pressure in the bay, but the SU-57 doesn’t have this; although it doesn’t need one, because there’s a gap in the bay doors that you can stick your pinky finger through. You want proof of that? Just look at 1:28:02.
Base on what Russian have now, around $66 billions per year compare to USA's $778 billions, I can say that they are good at they're job.
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Best in depth video ever.. 1:26:43 1:26:44
The NATO code for this aircraft really should've been the Banshee because of the sound it makes
Fighter planes must start with F.
So if F. Su-57 Farty?
The su-57 is the fuckwit, the su-75 is the femboy
i always listen to your videos while i am in my bed in the night. and i most of the time cant fall asleep bcs its so interesting and exciting. anyway, i would be interested in a eurofighter video!
Hey thank you very much for the very interesting video. You put so much work in to it one can tell the amount of research and blood and sweat you put in. Awesome work please keep that up! THere is no other channel that comes close to the detailed content you put out especially regarding the Russian technology. I really appreciate it. It is so interesting to learn and get to know their different apporach to things and it changed my mind in regards to Russian technology. But I guess it is obvious because I really did not know much about it so how could I form an educated judgement/perspective on it. Not that I am an expert now not in the least but I understand it a little bit better. It is very sad to see people who have no understanding of it much less the detailed and deep knowledge one needs to assess it but nevertheless they get emotional and spread hate. Its sad to see that you get into their crossheir of hate even though you did so much to put that amount of information in your content and work. Some people tend to just hate really sad to see, maybe there is somekind of clinical diagnosis for this kind of destructive behaviour I do not know but I am pretty sure that it is not a rational nor healthy way to live and approach information or social interaction. But I am thankful that you do not get discouraged by them and keep doing your great work.
Yeah, no bias just authentic research. Love that
Excellent job, Sir!! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Good full analysis - thank you for the video you really did a talented review and you know what you are talking about and put a lot of work - thank you , but the main combat power is in the Soviet developments , in most Soviet aircraft were laid triple safety margin for future modernization, we do not take to create equipment for the image . The real combat effectiveness lies in its service life, roughly speaking there is a new image equipment at the moment - but it is much more efficient to engage in modernization of the old ones, the potential for 30-40 years ahead, this is done so that the production of new ones is not so expensive.
The Su-57 PAK-FA is a platform for future technologies, what is presented now is the first generation. It is not customary for us to saw and dispose of the aircraft carcass - because the light metal "carcass" is more valuable and after modernization and maintenance the aircraft becomes new. Our military industrial complex still uses SU-25 , you can see a video of how after hitting the missile the pilot lands the plane on the second engine. The plane was developed in 1980 and still serves effectively, supersonic bombers also saved after the lost cold war. Therefore, the issue of the number of new aircraft is not as relevant as the Modernization of aircraft that are in mothballs and waiting to be upgraded. So do not judge Russia's potential by the number of new aircraft - look at the total number.
And also we actually closed the sky for civil aviation - thank you very much, now our designers have received hundreds of tenders and exorbitant resources for development for decades to come, thank you for clearing our country of competitors. This is the dawn of Russian aviation:)
The goal of NATO and the US State Department was always the final fulfilment of Generallplan Ost, a Nazi dream unfulfilled after Stalingrad. And with the latest G7 meeting wherein one of the topics was the "decolonisation" of Russia (Balkanisation and breakup into individually weak and dependant satrapies), NATO merely said the quiet part out loud. This sanctions regime and airspace closure is going to force the oligarchs of United Russia, which have always been toadies for Western imperialism, to do what they always feared and hated: to actually develop Russia, and to realign it back on to the autarkic path.
But not all is roses. Russia is still quite dependant upon import of machine tools, particularly from Europe. It could of course import them from China, but there was a time when the finest mills, lathes and shapers bore the stamp of the Soviet Union, and not some German imprint. At this stage it remains to be seen also, whether Russia can actually secure itself in areas beyond the military industrial complex. If it repeats the economic failures of the USSR; with a vibrant and formidable military industrial complex, but a moribund and unproductive civilian industry, it will face yet another tribulation, and this time it will not have the youth of the population to weather another such storm.
@@MonMalthias This is the attempted blockade of Russia. Resources. What the Western globalists have failed to take into account. Resources. The essence of currency is a piece of paper, it is a contract that proves the value, I think that the next stage will not be the exchange of resources for rubles, but the exchange of resources for technology. For example Germany - they have been delivering Siemens machine tools by roundabouts since 2014 after the separation of Crimea from Ukraine, it was an autonomous republic and had the right to do so, it is not customary to talk about it in the West, but not a single law was broken and the procedure was carried out according to all the principles of democracy. Germany is very dependent on Russia and they need resources to grow. They have tried twice in the last 200 years to take over Russia, the only way out for them is deals.
Soon we will see a barter system, and then either your country goes to the stone age and non-competitive price of technology or you negotiate with Russia and everyone lives happily ever after. So the split of European society and the European Union due to the aggressive policy of the globalists is not far off. Many people don't care what the other continent thinks, they care about their own country and peace with Russia seems closer to them.
Do not forget that there is also the Asian region, which has gained former opportunities and is now flourishing. If BRICS introduces its own currency, this is a separation from the current system and the world will be divided into at least two parts, the U.S. acted as a guarantor of peace and abused their opportunities, using them as a weapon against the countries that believed in the dollar and strengthened the U.S. economy. They took Russia's reserve by simply robbing it, every country saw what a guarantor the U.S. was.
At the moment Russia is one of the few countries that can completely close the fence and live self-sufficiently, but there will be no USSR 2.0, there will be some symbiosis based on the idea of the Country.
I have never seen the Russian people so united in decisions and in solidarity with the President. As for technology, what we cannot get will come from the Asian region and the barter system from Europe. And the choice there is either you roll back to the living standards of 1980 or work and cooperate as before and everyone is fine. Peaceful skies to you!
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The way I see it, Russia is still plagued by the globalist infestation from the Yeltsin era. Elvira Nabiullina is a toady for the US-led IMF style of economics, focusing entirely on monetary interventions.
Similarly there are people in the ministries of industry and transport, that insist that actually import substitution is not important, Russia can import from "friendly" countries like China instead.
They seem to forget that before the fall, the USSR was exporting to China and India, not the other way around it is today.
Furthermore, Russia's ministers that get carted around in Mercedes and other German cars, do an injustice to Russian automobile manufacturers. They seem to forget too that Russia too was a great and powerful manufacturer, second only to the United States, and were it not for the huge mismanagement of Soviet leaders after Brezhnev, Lada and Zil and other Russian car and truck manufacturers would dominate the world in the way GM and Toyota do today.
Sergey Glazyev has long held, that Russian ministries need to be purged of those who are still colonised with the Washington-IMF mind virus. It would be more accurate to say that Russia is doing well _despite_ these thieves and layabouts, and could do _better_ without them.
@@MonMalthias You are all correct, but the first steps began and so did the arrests and purges among the main administration, especially the liberals who had put the country under the globalist system. Nabiullina was not removed precisely in order to remain in contact with the Western elites and the globalists, if everything is unleashed right now it will be a total cruelty in the world, and to avoid chaos she was left, she is pro-American and such a bridge is necessary, as soon as she finishes her role she will be released from office. Arrests began in all institutions of power and a mass Russian-style flogging began. The agenda is as follows: we know in whose interests you are working - now you have a choice: either you work in the interests of the country or we will destroy you, with a reservation on status, no harsh repression because no one has cancelled the global crisis. And instead of amputating the swelling, the bet was on treatment. After the collapse of the Soviet Union and the lost Cold War, Western agents infiltrated everything and became part of the country. But the entire fifth column gave itself away, whether it was an accident or a real plan, but it's a fact. The dollar will go away gradually, I think in 5-10 years or maybe 20, a sharp rejection would collapse the world order, better this unjust than the real chaos and disorder.
Regarding factories, of course I would like to know that our businesses are capable of creating everything, but you can't be the best at everything. Frankly speaking cars were lousy during the USSR, but if you take the Military Complex machinery is great, if you take the private sector - the trucks, they are excellent and competitive. What I mean is that we all should live in peace and support each other, and Germany has excellent machine tools and high-tech solutions. We just need to trade fairly and develop this industry together.
There is a lot to be improved in Russia, but the first step to freedom has begun, we literally were not allowed to live quietly, the beginning is done and it is good. These 2 years will be difficult and then there will be an inevitable growth, because everything will stabilize, besides, it became clear from the sanctions what we should work on and what levers of pressure to destroy. The power of the West in Russia is fading, money is no longer the main tool, it is a question of faith and ideas, as the value of papers was discredited when they took from Russia half of its share of the super incomes. We live in interesting times)) The war has been going on for 200 years so it will still lead to peace and globalization but at 4 angles and not 1 as it was.
@Plato I do not think that the Russian Air Force will enter an active phase in these territories, only accompaniment and support. Ukraine has never been a target, because there are Slavic people inside the country and almost everyone has relatives there, including me. The goal is to remove the influence of the Anglo-Saxon lobbyists and the puppet state and remove any influence on the Slavic peoples at the edge of the borders and create a buffer zone. A full-scale operation is possible in the Baltics, but there are also many Slavs and people with Russian passports.
All this is similar to cutting out the pus, which is inevitably felt by all, on decision-making is also likely to be no attack, not a short-term victim is needed - but a traitor and preferably a coward. Too heroic a death will be mistaken and it will all go into the shadows, capitulation and media capitulation are needed, so SWO will be long until the very end.
*SU-57 was reborn* YF-23, both beautiful aircraft!! 😳😳🥰
Just love this aircraft so sensous, elegant, , awesome. . I want one : )
IN 2018 Sukhoi ran a competition between rival radars. The competition was held in Syria against US F22 and Israeli F35. KRET won, with their ROFAR photonic radar which uses a fluorescent Beryllium crystal laser through a beam splitter . The signal returns through a counting device, which counts individual photons bouncing back. This photonic radar has a reported range of 500km , or 310 miles. With Photonic radar, the Su57 can see every US stealth fighter.
I really enjoy your videos, you come with just good general tech info and not a mess "we're the greatest in world" propaganda attached to it. You attempt to come with some wisdom, understand, and balance to the issues that tag along with these subject at times can be very touchy subjects. So keep up the good work you're doing. Some people don't like see that there is often more than one way to "skin a cat", as the saying and not aircraft is perfect. They all have faults in some manner or other just all human do. Oh and your talk on the 5 problems with the F-35 is truly a problem with our whole idea of modern warfare and possibly a very great weakness as well a strength. Like going for knees and feet of a person taller; high tech could be ours. So again Thank you!
That's what we need. This is best video on Su57, no "we're the greatest in world" propaganda, no BS just pure analysis and detail
how the hell is this possible that this guy is having all this information about this highly confidential plane???!!!!!
It is all in the public domain, but not on the internet.
@@Millennium7HistoryTech i understand thank you. in addition i wanted to appreciate your effort of this video series. i completely watched it and it is very informative. i'm happy this wasn't a russian patriotic propaganda video, anti-western, or misinformations. therefore complimentos, we need more stuff like this
Indian partnership helped Russia a lot...but at the end Indians exited leaving behind advanced composite technology to Russia but in turn they learnt how to develop high performance fighters from Russia...
perhaps that was the idea from the start.. The new requirements they suddenly expressed, didn't make much sense and sounded like an excuse to get out of it.
*India did not take any part in the technical development of the Su-57, India cannot give Russia any technology, since Russia is one of the leaders in the aerospace industry, and India is the second league!*
@@UltraTotenkopf India not only worked with Russia, we also gave some funding before exiting the program...
@@spectre3954 *I am an employee of the UAC and I know very well that India financed, all the funds that India invested went to the development of the AL-41F1 engine and its adaptation for production in India, in the future they will go to modernize the Su-30K and Su-30MKI of the Indian Air Force, also this engine is the engine of the first stage of testing for the T-50, it was decided that the first 24 vehicles that should enter the standing units of the Russian Aerospace Forces by the end of 2024 will be equipped with the AL-41F1 engine, which most likely gave reason to say to the Indian press that they are participating in the development fifth-generation fighter, this was the end of Indian funding for the project, as India began to put forward its own vision of a new fighter for the Indian Air Force, which fundamentally did not coincide with the concept of the Russian Aerospace Forces, the Su-57E (export version) was presented at the Aero India 2023 air show, but as far as I know, the leadership of the Indian Air Force took the direction to purchase European and American equipment, and most likely the topic of the Su-57 is closed for India, perhaps There will be some kind of cooperation on the Su-75, but it’s too early to talk about this until flight tests begin!*
I don't see how Indians could help or even co produce the fighter. It would complicate production and in the end key parts, engines, avionics would all be Russian. India is miles behind in everything that matters, they could probably contribute parts of the fuselage. Too uneven to work. In the end they will probably buy it and receive kits for montage just like Su-30
*ONE IMPORTANT ADDITION:*
The Russians says that the thrust vector thing also helps to survive the plane in case of its tail/fins damaged. The plane can be manoeuvred this way.
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Už len záleží čo bude viac poškodené.
Nič nie je dopredu normované vždy záleží na náhode.
Great presentation!
Question: how is the characteristic screaming sound from the engines generated? Or do ALL modern combat aircraft have this sound??
The screaming is just the engines loudly asking the Russians why their engines are still 30 years behind the US and Europe.
It is because the radar blockers in inlets of engines in front of the engines intake compressors!
@BlueMarlin81 cringe why dont you go post that on the million other computer voice defense channels.
@@bluemarlin8138 you're just scared of the screaming sound. Its like the end of world dude.
it cant be from engines alone since it shares engines with some other sukhois
Could you do the same kind of video concerning the real data / use of the Ka-52 design?
thrust vectoring is also used in supersonic maneuvering. notching more efficiently is extremelly important to BVR combat, couple that with the increased angle limit of the radar locking on the Felon and you have a fighter capable of quicly going from nose hot to flanking while still keeping radar lock on the bandit which will loose lock by defending.
Yes they do. And if thrust vectoring was really useless. Why did US use it on the Raptor? Right?
@@Max_Da_G The F-22 is supermanuverable wdym? The government hides the full capabilities, but the su-57 will out maneuver the f-22 mostly.
Thanks a lot, you did cover a lot on the SU-57 and it is a beautiful plane. Take care.
An worthy channel that deserves to smash that Subscribe button i like how you defend Su 57 from the Dumb Comments. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Excuse me if i look boring, just wanna add something useful to the subject, to this very based in depth video. T-50 cockpit you show on the pictures is a Su-35S cockpit actually. Look at the angle between side stand of front canopy and fuselage, then look at the same spot on T-50 from the front - there is no angle, it's straight.
I can't fix it now, unfortunately. However, would you tell me the exact timestamp? Thank you.
@@Millennium7HistoryTech 37:24 is a Su-35 cockpit - look how the canopy connects to the body. Then at 37:59 you show the jet from the front and there it's clearly seen that T-50 canopy is different.
Most underrated aviation channel
This is what the thrust vectoring Russian aircraft fanbois lack, doing simple research on the matter. They argue it makes Russian aircraft better. When in all reality, the U.S. Air Force already tested it on their own aircraft AND they even tested it on Russian made aircraft themselves.
TV is not what makes the Russian aircraft better. It's many other things that do that. Well, better in terms of avionics. A pilot from Italy that flew a certain Sukhoi and an F16 said it was like comparing a race car to a truck in terms of how they flew. Look at the maneuvers that the Su35 can do for example , it's sci-fi compared to what any western aircraft came do. th-cam.com/users/shortswoQsWq4aDWo
@@derbigpr500 Yeah but it's not WWI. Now most action happens BVR and acrobatics bleed energy from the plane. Or so I've heard. There are some applications for 'agility' but not enough to prioritize when designing a jet.
I like your videos on the SU-57. Your part 4 states that there is L band radar on the plane and this can only be the case if the plane was twice as large. S band is most likely along with x band. As for using the DAS with the HUD, I am curious if the SU-57 has an auto defend feature like the F-35 using these systems. Good job. Keep up the good work.
Id imagine so with all the different defensive systems it would have to be. Most interesting aircraft I've ever studied on a pure tech level.
With how "automated" Ka-52 with Vibtesk DIRCM responding missile threat, i would believe the system on Su-57 will more complete on responding missile threat
Not necessarily L-band is decimetric and given how thick and long the SU-57s wings I’m sure they can fit enough emitters perhaps not to track and detect an aircraft but at least point the N036 in the right direction to where the target.
Believe what you want. I just passed on information. The L-band radar is twice as wide as the SU-57. It is S-band that the plane has. @@princesofthepower3690
I think that combination of stelth technology and thrust vectoring was intended to allow for outmaneuvering missiles. Aka maneuvering is such a way that achieving lock was impossible or to cause missiles to lose lock.
I'm a merely aviation enthusiast not engineer , so i might be completely wrong
yeah, you're completely wrong LOL It's okay though, this stuff is inherently complicated.
@@spectre06x why than did they put in so much effort in to making its so maneuverable ? All those resources could been used for development of ,, correct " engines .
Propaganda reasons maybe ?
@@RRninja-jq6lp To understand the answer to this question you must look at the history of both Russian air warfare and the combat records of modern Russian fighter jets. In short, the Su-57 is not designed to take on American fighters despite the heavy propaganda about it rivaling the F-22..which is doesn't come close to doing. It it designed to overpower lower tier threats that Russia and country's who may buy export models would face. Only one Russian built fighter has a positive air-to-air combat record, and only one Russian built fighter has successfully shot down a western built fighter since 1988. With the exception of that one fighter, every Russian built fighter to have scored an air to air kill has scored against older Russian built fighters. The Flanker's only kills have been against other Russian built planes. Same goes for the MiG-29. Even the most advanced Flanker with the best avionics and radar systems is not used by Russia, and it retrofitted with American, Israeli, and European avionics. This little fact shines light that in the near future, Russia and her allies may face air forces that have more recent and more advanced Fulcrum and Flanker models. The Su-57 is not designed to fight the F-22 or F-35. It is designed to fight the Su-30 and advanced MiG-29s. Furthermore, it's stealth is aimed at defeating mid tier Surface to Air threats built by Russia, exactly like what we are seeing in Ukraine. Russia has planned to annex Ukrain and restablish the Soviet Union for decades. The Su-57 was supposed to be part of that, but it's fallen short and fallen behind. It may or may not ever see combat.
@@spectre06x That makes a lot more sense
Thanks for explaining. I really appreciate it
@@spectre06x That is a lot of crap and pure delusion for one comment.
Russia has very different doctrine of air operation than US does and they built their planes according to their doctrine, and so does the US, therefore they build airplanes that excel in different roles, as it was mentioned in the clip above. Therefore comparing f-22 to SU 57 is like comparing apples and oranges, both are fruit and that is where similarities end.
The claim that Russian planes are designed to fight other Russian planes is deranged, to put it mildly. The fact that Russian planes do fight other Russian planes is simply the result of Russia being one of the major exporter of military equipment in the world, hence it does happen, same way the collision of two toyotas do happen simply by statistical probability.
Russia does not export its planes in the most equipped version, ever. Export versions of their planes always are downgraded if compared to the versions designated for domestic market, hence making any claims on superiority of US planes fighting some 3 rd tier aviation from, as your ex president subtly stated, "shithole countries" is, again, deranged or rather delusional.
There was a time, long time ago, during Korean War where top tier US planes faced top tier Russian planes, piloted by Russian pilots and it did not go well for the US.
Now cherry on top, if all the above was simply deranged or delusional, your comments on the Ukraine and Russia trying to reestablish Soviet union are borderline insane.
Hey, thanks for the laugh.
LO aircraft can be seen on any band of radar, just their RCS is super low, a S/N problem. With L band and sensor fusion, the computer can take the faint returns from LO aircraft on shorter wavelengths and combine them with the long-wave radar info to create potentially firing solution worthy tracks. At a minimum situational awareness would be greatly enhanced if this array works. If the datalink bandwidth and fusion processing power exists to support it, the Su57s could work collaboratively as a mini-AWACS which would be able to massively improve track resolution on LO targets. The more L band returns one can fuse, the more accuracy can be achieved. Additionally with long range AA missiles, the fight profile takes them to very high altitudes, and from that (top) aspect, the LO capabilities of target aircraft are not as strong. Guidance only needs to get a missile close enough to engage its active seeker
Correct, why no one here even tried to think what if there is two Su-57 linked flying mission? How about 4?😂
Amazing vid as ever! Well done and indeed a great info on the Felon! Can you fins some info for us for a future vid of the diff in the approach towatds stealht coating typer used by the west and Russia. Diff between RAM and the anti radar paint coating used on the Su-57 that needs a lot less taking care of ... ? :)
The "unexpected maneuver to confuse missile guidance" theory is interesting, but I don't think it holds up under analysis.
Modern Air to Air missiles have three phases of flight for long-range engagements: 1, "loft" phase - the missile climbs to an altitude where it can accelerate to its best speed for the engagement. 2, "midcourse" phase - the missile uses track data (either from the launching aircraft, or via datalink from AWACS for the most modern iterations) to predict where the target will be and intercept it, 3 - "terminal" phasse - the missile acquires the target with its own sensors and maneuvers to fuzing range.
The midcourse range is the range where it would be theoretically possible to confuse a missile be exhibiting unusual acceleration. However, in this phase, the ranges and closure times are so long that the relatively tiny anomalies which could be generated by a thrust vector assisted maneuver are irrelevant. The goal of the missile in this phase is not to hit the target, but to guide to a position where the terminal phase can take over. the 'basket' in which the terminal phase can catch the target is very large (several miles wide), and the TVC capability cannot maneuver the plane enough to 'trick' the missile into missile by that wide a margin.
In terminal phase, there is no algorithm to trick: the missile will guide using "proportional navigation" - that is it will steer itself to maintain a crossing-velocity of zero with the target. As long as the missile has enough energy to accelerate faster than the target while in this phase, it WILL hit, regardless of how "weird" the target moves.
Dear Sir. Thank you very much for all the great video's you produce for us. I would love to see or hear your comments about stealth aircraft central Bombay's. Usually the Bombay style are all of the door types!! Why don't they use the rotating system like the Blackburn Buccaneer. What understood from an old SAAF pilot was this system help the aircraft not to lose speed or slow down to open it's Bombay's. It is also more aerodynamic at would it not be more stealthily???
On the subject of aerodynamics (min 11:17), I ask myself: What actually defines a "lifting body"? In many airplanes, part of the lift is generated by the fuselage. Some more, less in others.
So, at what point do we start talking about a "lifting body"?
The question is not meant to be a criticism. I'm really wondering, there must be a definition for it. I really enjoy watching your videos and have already learned a lot. Great channel!
When it's designed to do so, a round fuselage produces lift, but it's not designed to do so.
Hell yes, just in time for mowing my lawn for the freedumb party tonight
WHEW! That's a LOT of info!
My favourite fighter in the world. Only channel with honest review. Great great video. Still waiting for some oth sukhoi products like SU-70, SU-30sm2, SU-35 MIG 41
MiG 41 is a wet dream.
Russians did a good job of copying the YF-23 with the Felon.
@@junkookbts1273 so what? Maybe it's wishful thinking but beautiful design and this is only channel that would do it justice.
@@chadbernard2641 beautiful thanks to the __BLACK WIDOW II__ aka YF-23
@@chadbernard2641 beautiful thanks to the __BLACK WIDOW II__ aka YF-23
Over estimating your opponent is dangerous too. When you dump so much money into your defense budget that your citizens have had enough of another tax increase after new tax after another tax increase...people start to get mad. The rich leave and those who can't, they become creative when it comes time to pay the governments ever increasing bills.
As an Air Force Fighter Pilot, I think Sukhoi makes some really cool-looking and capable aircraft, including the SU-57!
Good video as always
Su-57 is the most flat-bodied (low-observable, high-lift, unlike all Western types) combat-jet I've ever seen (and remember now),
with a huge weapons-bay (crucial, unlike the F-22's small-one) and IRST (unlike F-22). Unlike the F-35, it is high-altitude, high-performant, super-maneuverable, long-range, maintainable, rentable, survivable (two motors, set widely apart), rear-radar, scalable (growth capability internally and externally) and has no known alternative scheduled.
It still takes skilled hands plus hours and hours and hours in the seat to be effective with such an awesome aircraft, and it is AWESOME. But if the SU-57 and the F-22 were to face off in the sky today, there would be a Russian military funeral, tomorrow.
I concur with most of this, though I’ll point out that both F-15 and F-22 are decent lifting body designs too. The F-15 has even been known to have an entire wing sheared off in a mid-air collision, and still flew back to base and landed safely (Israeli Air Defense Force, video is on YT). That’s like the holy grail of lifting body design.
@@edgetwins529 in an interview with British test pilots who flew the first su27's back in the 90's. They quote "found the plan very easy to fly because the planes were designed with low levels of training in mind". American designs (from cars to planes) are always over complicated. The rest of the world thinks it's smarter to build simpler and simpler systems, but not the west.
@@singular9 Even more so to maintain, build and to operate on a messy-field. US bought its afghans Russian Mi-8, because they failed to maintain and properly fly the Blackhawk. Similarly, ultra-rich Saudi-Arabia has hardly ever got any Hecliopters and lost the war in mountainous Yemen. It also gifted away to Egypt the two large and new helicopter-carriers it bought from France.
@@singular9 I'm sorry my friend, but "easy to fly" does not translate to mastering the geometry of dogfighting or BVR combat in a 5th gen fighter. The American's have the upper hand due to the yrs of service the F22. It's not who carries the bigger stick it in this case. Not by a long shot. And if the rest of the world, as you put it, prefers "simple", then why do they still order So many F-35's, I wonder. Those things are friggin everywhere. Certainly there's an upside to western complicated fighters that outweighs "easy to fly"
can't wait for the SU-75 and MIG-41 😍😍😍😍
I’ve read that the Su-57 is being used now over the front line of the Russo-Ukraine war. As an AWACS and for remote missile guidance. Has anyone heard of this?
I heard about the su-57 launching kinzhals and long range anti-air missiles like the R-37
Excellent video. Thanks
Most beautiful jet ever made...well except YF23 but i doubt it will be build in numbers
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Thanks, re one of your clips around the 50 min mark the tail view had 3 x radiation symbols. Is that purely for awareness of the high power radar transmitter or is there isotopes also present?
i guess maybe the su 57 radars works simmiliar to the "anti stealth" radarkomplex Nebo M M55ZH6M for S400 and other air defense systems , where the radar uses combined frequencys .
I believe L-band antenna at relatively pretty high power output, it will only can achieve the detection range of the X-band radar for the same RCS (i forgot how big the RCS). But it assuming that the L-band antenna installed both on leading edge flap and Levcon. This will make cooling a very big issue. So most analysis only predict the L-band for electronic warfare.
But who knows, maybe Russia have secret algorithm that can differentiate pretty low energy L-band echo from the noise.
Well done video.
The idea that Russia is technologically inferior is just arrogant stupidity.
And it is an idea that is mostly spread by a military industry that are focused on maximizing THEIR PROFITS, not providing the best piece of hardware to their buyers.
For good examples of this, consider the discussions about tanks in the Kremlin when they were getting more detailed information about the Leopard 2, Challenger 2 and M1 Abrams. Design teams were asked if they could create something equal or better and they were pretty much just shrugging and saying of course we CAN.
But it would also have a comparable cost per unit(or at least somewhere between 50% and 80%). So, 10-20 T-72s or a single "supertank"? The choice was so obvious that no "supertank" projects were seriously pursued by the USSR again.
The other, even more blatant show of why it is stupid is when people were mocking, IIRC it was the MiG-31, for having really oldstyle analog parts as part of the radar electronics. And then someone in the 90s went and tried simulating the radar and found that, oh dear, those parts actually allowed the radar to scan BETTER and more accurately, increasing potential detection range by at least 10%.
Also, there's the absurdly obvious difference in focus. USA has drastically more aircraft, sure, but their airdefense systems utterly sucks compared to Russia. The primary role of USA aircraft air to ground missions are fulfilled by Russia either by missiles or by artillery depending on range.
And on a cost vs effectiveness comparison, that is vastly better, there's barely any comparison even possible.
I agree with you, especially on the tank issue. While I was in the Navy we picked up a B2 Spirit at 120 mile range while using old valve tech in the 1022 radar set back in the 90s There's something to be said for compromise.
Which is why Russia can't attain air superiority over Ukrainian airspace?
And Why Russian tanks have taken such heavy casualties Russia has had to take old T-62's out of storage?
@@georgethompson1460 "And Why Russian tanks have taken such heavy casualties Russia has had to take old T-62's out of storage?"
Dont you CIA puppets ever read?
T-62s were for the DPR/LPR forces for use as mobile armored cannons, not tanks.
Because noone in the DPR/LPR forces has training for anything newer than those.
We only learned this half a year ago, i'm sure you will catch up eventually.
And the claims about Russian losses are grossly exaggerated. When you actually bother to check all those "photo evidence" you generally find that around 80% of the claimed Russian losses are Ukrainian with some paint or photoshopping added.
"Which is why Russia can't attain air superiority over Ukrainian airspace?"
Your lack of insight is as severe as your ignorance and incompetence.
They HAVE AIR SUPERIORITY. They've had it since March last year. Ukraine can't fly ANYTHING without getting at least half of them shot down or forced to drop their missions just to try to survive.
That is what air superiority means. But when there are still hundreds at minimum, potentially still thousands of MANPADs on the ground, along with what remains of the Ukraine SAMs, you're not going to just fly around over that area, that's the realm of idiots.
So why don't you tell the world exactly how laughably technologically inferior Israel is then?
Because they almost failed COMPLETELY in 1973 against a tiny fraction of the number of threats and against threats that were easy to find and deal with as well as dramatically less capable compared to what Ukraine has now.
If Iraq in the 90s had only the NUMBERS of SAMs and MANPADs that Ukraine has today, USA would have lost hundreds of aircraft if it tried the same airwar as it did then.
Russia so far has lost 2 dozen aircraft. Ukraine over 300. Conservatively counted. It's probably over 400.
3/5 Russian aircraft lost happened in the first month while they were wiping out the Ukraine airforce and destroying the majority of SAMs.
Air superiority does NOT mean that your side can fly around as they like, it means that your airforce can do their missions while the enemy airforce cannot.
Russia achieved air superiority in March or April last year.
@@louie55ish "we picked up a B2 Spirit at 120 mile range while using old valve tech in the 1022 radar set back in the 90s" source: trust me bro
The cope is real. " Russia is technologically inferior is just arrogant stupidity." no its just true. "spread by a military industry that are focused on maximizing THEIR PROFITS" man if you think the west is bad, just wait till you learn about this dumpster fire called russia. "For good examples of this, consider the discussions about tanks in the Kremlin when they were getting more detailed information about the Leopard 2, Challenger 2 and M1 Abrams. Design teams were asked if they could create something equal or better and they were pretty much just shrugging and saying of course we CAN.
But it would also have a comparable cost per unit(or at least somewhere between 50% and 80%). So, 10-20 T-72s or a single "supertank"? The choice was so obvious that no "supertank" projects were seriously pursued by the USSR again." yes russians have always prefered cheap and crappy
"The other, even more blatant show of why it is stupid is when people were mocking, IIRC it was the MiG-31, for having really oldstyle analog parts as part of the radar electronics. And then someone in the 90s went and tried simulating the radar and found that, oh dear, those parts actually allowed the radar to scan BETTER and more accurately, increasing potential detection range by at least 10%." source: trust me bro
"And on a cost vs effectiveness comparison, that is vastly better, there's barely any comparison even possible." remember that in order to be effective, you have to hit your target and unless russia really hates empty fields and civilian buildings, theyre not very good at that bit
I reckon the Russian planes look awesome, I know styling is not the name of the game BUT they look so good, at least to me. Very enjoyable a bit over my head in some areas but still enjoyed it.
I agree with your point of perceived gap in technology. Biggest example is the Rocket engine technology Russia developed like 35 years ago still better or at par with modern spacex engines.
Outstanding, as usual.
The F22 - the US 5th generation fighter - has been in service since 2005. The Su-57, Russia's 5th Gen fighter, came into service in 2020. By the time Russia has full deployment of this platform in 2028, the F-22 platform will have been upgraded to 5th Gen+ fighter using some NGAD tech and the 6th generation fighter will be near it's in-service date. Su-57's are 15 years too late to the theatre - by 2028 - there will be a 6th Generation option available AND just as many 5+ generation F-22's and thousands of F-35's. Given that Russia could see the F-22 in operation for over a decade, the Su-57 SHOULD improve upon the Raptor. The biggest question is not if the Su-57 is "better" but what real impact will the Su-57 have against the platforms that will exist in the late 2020's and beyond. It's a beautiful plane though!
By 2028, I am 100% sure that NGAD won't be in service
US will be bankrupt by 2030, so no need to worry.
I'm 100% sure that won't matter.
6th gen rumors are just that, rumors, propagated by fanatics. It currently doesn't matter if you have a 5Th gen aircraft or not since in world war 3 countries will lose hundreds of aircraft, so why spend money on 5th gen aircraft that you will lose anyways.
Ngad will not be ready in 2028. The thing you fail to understand is that the technology used in su-57 will continue to evolve into the 6th generation just as it will with Ngad. The Russians are closer to hypersonic flight than USA and the do not believe in stealth same way as USA. They will continue push forward with electronic warfare much like SAAB has done with Gripen E. Plus with addition of SU-70 Hunter B stealth will not be what we think. I would also assume they have started their 6th generation plane already.
48:35 "The main antenna outputs 11kW".
That seems like a lot of power for an antenna.
The outlet on your wall can do 2kW.
Normally, antenna power is measured in mW.
It is correct. It is the radar peak power. Very different from a radio.
@@Millennium7HistoryTech Sorry my friend it is not ( radar peak power ) . So first we must know for which working mode of radar stands that value in kW ??? High or Medium PRF ? Another thing to know, AESA radars do not have so called ''stand by mode'' in which transmitter emitts radar signals to the reflector of the antenna but without emitting them to airspace .
You are right about that signal polarisation on the three forward AESA radars/antennas in Su-57 but must know one thing more. We have also superposition of signals ( more signals into the main one ) and so on . For comparison ( that issue about those kW's ) . Radar N035 Irbis has two transmitters . The main one has max pulse power of 20kW's . That max pulse power is on High PRF mode but only in that ''stand by mode'' . Even this value is only when the main transmitter gets electric power from 27V DC-net . What is the max output power of radar N035 Irbis ( on High PRF mode with 27V DC net) ??? It is 800kW's !
So how can AESA radar N036 Byelka have that ( only) 11kW's of output power ??? Every TRM is multichannel and every channel has max output power that is measured in a couple of Watts or 10W and little more. All this radar energy is going into airspace as mentioned before without so called ''stand by mode''. By the way , in that ''stand by mode'' ( which have radars with classic transmitters like TWT and so on ) , we have one issue / detail / and that is about converting radar energy into heat energy.
There are my comments and answers about Su-35S and his radar N035 Irbis and also about Su-57
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Even though Top Gun Maverick did show Su-57 very unfavorably, a single maneuver was enough to bring such a spike of interest 🤓
I didn’t think TG Maverick depicted the Su-57 unfavorably. It showed America’s best pilots being deathly afraid of it in every scene it was discussed or appeared. For example, Maverick reiterating multiple times that even the best pilots in the world would be at a disadvantage vs this aircraft, Maverick chewing out Rooster for even considering dogfighting a Felon in an F-18, and their battle plan going to great lengths to neutralize or avoid encounters with the Felon. In the fights they did have with the Felon, Maverick had to use every trick in his arsenal to survive, and still got shot down by one anyway, as did Rooster. And of course the big WTF moment when the Felon did that insane twist maneuver to evade a missile. Overall it was pretty respectful, within the framework that the Americans would have to win since it’s an American movie.
as for me, the film has promoted the su-57 so well that all sales managers favor the American film)))
@@5133937 I somewhat agree, but the fight in the final part did show it very unfavorably. F-14 took down 2 of them, and the 3rd one was destroyed, too.
A DCS channel Growling Sidewinder did several simulations of Su-57 vs F-14, and vs F/A-18, it's fun to watch, and ended very badly for the Felon's opponents.
But I get that it couldn't win in a US-made movie🤓
It was done so the Americans wouldn't wet the bed. Total Hollywood crap.
@@copetimusmaximus3363 yep it’s a Tom Cruise vehicle.. it was always going to end one way. But still as I and others have said elsewhere the Felon got substantial verbal respect in the film. Surprised me
Your series on this aircraft as others have commented is unequalled on you tube.
I'm glad you corrected the TBO on Russian aircraft from 1,000 to 4 000.hr.