Is R&B Dead? Let's Fix The Genre | A Video Essay
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ค. 2022
- Quite a few artist have proclaimed R&B dead and Chris Brown is the latest in the list of artist. Lets look into the claim and make a decision on this issue.
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As soon as we as a people start loving each other again meaning all of our women and men loving each other and want to be in relationships we’ll have R&B back. You can’t have R&B without love
Guess again, it was a record labels that destroyed the genre. As long as they control it we don't
One of the best answers I've ever heard about this question!
@@C-Lyfe85 Record labels were only concern with making money so they follow the money and what is trending and what appeals to the consumer. Being in love was deemed corny in our culture and communities to this newer generation of music listeners and consumers. We turned our back on R&B bcuz it seems passé and weak especially to men and now rap has took over as the dominant genre in our communities and now it is destructive demonic rap crap that has infiltrated our youth’s minds. Our young women listen to that demonic trash and want to bend over classless and head to a stripper pole. We have lost our dignity and class and as a result being in love, getting married and raising a family is passé and out dated. Hopefully our men and women will love each other again and then R&B will make a comeback. Can’t even relate to R&B if you feel no love
Also, albums don’t have to be narrative-driven to be good. Chris Brown picking the best of his recording sessions shouldn’t be a critique of his work, because there’s quality throughout. Michael Jackson never made an album that told a story and no one critiques him because of it. A collection of songs that work together can be just as good as a story.
And Chris Brown literally has a solo hit in Under the Influence right now as I type this. There’s also Fine China, Back to Sleep, Liquor, Privacy, Undecided and more that have had commercial success without features.
@@user-ew6el2xt7r Just as many people listen to Chris Brown’s albums as they did Trilogy so I’m not sure what your point is there. And IMO, if you have to pair the music with a video in order for the story to be told…the album itself isn’t a story. There’s no Michael Jackson album anyone could listen to (without watching the videos) and say “this body of work tells a story about ______.” I also never said anything about fillers for Chris or Michael so idk wym by “stop the cap” cause I didn’t lie once in what I said.
I understand what you mean but sometimes he makes ass albums and sometimes he makes good albums think of the Breezy album
it has plus 36 songs
cmon and only about 5 are good memorable and the rest are typical girl i love you stop playing games come to my crib lemme do you type songs
MJ’s albums were sonically conceptual with HISTORY (1995) literally being a topic driven concept album.
Mentorship is definitely missing. And you’d think that might help people develop their own style since they are kind of force to. But there is a lot of copycat and aversion to risk.
I would say the lack of quality writers are hurting most of the genres. Now people are throwing all their songs out there to see what sticks. This has been happening for awhile. A few years after Apple music came out, there was a story that said that 80% of the material on that platform had zero listens. There are also no gatekeepers meaning that nobody went through that 80% to see if there was any good music in it.
If one wants to bring back the genres, they are going to have to bring back the gatekeepers, promoters and quality song writers. MTV was the last gatekeeper and look at all the stars it produced.
Great Content. The Business of Music has destroyed R&B in the last 30 years.
Thanks for doing this video. I was just having a discussion about the bigger picture for our people with content over just chasing the bag.
true that they need to employ legends like charlie wilson and greats from the past as A&R and musical mentors because these kids don't sing no one is belting and riffing no more plus everything is so ultra hyper sexual
The influence of Hip-Hop is the # culprit, followed by the lack of music explicitly made for dancing.
Yo this is so well done and the sentiments being said are 100% accurate. Got a new follow for sure
Man you're dope!! Love your passion! Big love from France
Also the social climate as well METOO & the openness of using love as a weapon there are far more reasons than quality, Social & society has affected it as well
The other thing is that many of us ARE creative, talking about love, and it sounds great, but it is still a numbers game, and honestly it's a popularity contest. We have to push/work through all of that while not be signed to a major label that could potentially control what we talk about in our music. It's a lot of noise we have to work through when your favorite artist or the latest artist isn't doing what you wish they would do.
I've been leaning towards more Blues type of R&B like Brent Fiayaz, King Krule, Sampha, Zayn or some Dance influenced R&B like PartyNextDoor, Dominic Fike, Normani
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Mentorship’s died especially when you look at the drake and weeknd situation as an example to why ppl don’t do musical mentors anymore
Spot on!
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I also feel like R&B music can be more than just love, sex or breakups. Which is what inspired me to make a playlist of songs that aren't about any of it. Enjoy!
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You contradicted yourself in this video. At one point you say R&B is struggling because people have no vocal training or mentors to look up to, then later name Brent as an example of someone carrying the genre. Brent Faiyaz is a clear example of an artist that could benefit from vocal training. His voice is smooth, sure, but those notes are either flat or sharp and there’s no strength in his vocals at all.
Then you name Silk Sonic as another front runner because they make nostalgic music. But earlier in the video you say the new generation is lost because they rely too much on sampling. Do you think Prince would enjoy Silk Sonic or would he find it to be theft?
I'm confused...you think the live instrumentation on that album...was samples...🤔
@@norwoodsstokes3883 never said that. My point is that samples get vilified for being too reminiscent of past music yet Silk Sonic gets put on a pedestal with their nostalgic music even though it’s really just a repackaging of past music. It’s great they play their music but to champion them for reaching back to the past while bashing sample use just doesn’t add up to me.
@@Tayloredup54 ok..but what is your argument...do you feel the nostalgia is better.... when it' is a sample...🤔
@@norwoodsstokes3883 my point is in my last comment idk how else to word it for you to understand. Never said one is better than the other.
@@Tayloredup54 well yeah....i think....."Prince".....would find more merit....when it's live instrumentation....u don't think so....🤔
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Who was the female artist you mentioned after Missy Elliot? Its at minute 5:42
2:36 Turn up the music, don't judge me, don't wake me up, 2012, fine china, little more, zero, back to sleep, questions, grass ain't greener, under the influence, all amazing songs and him on his own
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The two music genres that elicit intense emotions: rock and r&b are now dead genres when it comes to the mainstream. Everything is all about auto tune these days.
I think what's happened is, the rise of music festivals, which generally favours 'alternative' rap and rock artists...R&B is seen as more mainstream, like pop...
Mumble rap/new trap killed both hip-hop and r&b
I don’t think R&B is “dead,” but in general, “effort” & “creativity” is gone in [most] music today. Sure, we had songs like “Between The Sheets” by the Isley Brothers & “Rock The Boat” by Aaliyah that were both talking about sex, but it was done in a tasteful manner. Today, they just go STRAIGHT to what they want to convey (like with “Side N*gga” by Chris Brown or “When We” by Tank). Nothing’s necessarily “new” under the sun, but we’ll be better off if the creativity and effort make a return, and sooner rather than later.
Everything eventually ends/dies. Moreover, everything old becomes new, again.
Bro to me they realize that to late. R&b has been dead from since 2009
Ok lets be fr, Don’t Judge Me, Back To Sleep, Fine China, Liqour and Under The Influence were hit records. Neither of them had features.
Yeah, you Trippin Chris Brown last six albums actually got hits with him by himself with no features
R&B is not dead but it’s not promoted anymore. R&B has went the route of Jazz and the blues. Those were genres of music we created and stopped supporting as much and rap has replaced the music that we as a people primarily listen meaning our younger generations
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Its just its not what it used to a sense it's still about love and shit but just because its not like what it used to be doesn't make it died these artists just don't have ambition say like how Bruno mars and the weeknd has
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What!? Beyoncé and Chris Brown r not r&b. They have pop music. Chris Brown is compared to who Michael Jackson who definitely didn’t make r&b music he made pop. People consider any form of singing to be r&b. R&b was maxwell, luther, the commodores, loose ends, D’Angelo. R&b started to fall off in the 2000s when the tempo sped up. R&b is slow and smooth. That shit is completely gone
It's blues that one can dance too. It could be fast like the works of Chuck Berry or slow like the works of Bobby Bland.
Fix that Rihanna album “anti” and Beyoncé album “4”. But we have to fix the entire genre
I love Anti the way it is. For 4 there ain’t much to replace the records with.
I agree those Rnbs are classics
Blah blah blah. Lets bash the new artists and say they just chasing the bag. Blah blah blah.
It was deeper than that. It’s a combination of things.
What's the problem
Bruh just coz u cant name 1 song out of his last 6 projects doesnt means know one listens to him🤦🏻♂😂
he's a flop and know serial abuser that refuses the same 3 beats
Tempo
it’s the men that need to step it up
Hip hop killed r n b
The fact is: The industry has intoxicated the r&b artists considered good who are now superstars, because of the streaming platforms. Beyonce is also included in this, as much as the lemonade album is good, she is also part of this generation that does everything for money. Many artists can't keep up because record companies use their image as a product.CB is another who is also lost in what he does, despite all his problems, the media boycotts his albums and his fans are so hungry for new music that he ends up getting sick and doesn't know how to make an album with real emotions anymore.
Are you crazy . Beyonce do music because she love music not for money . She released r&b album in 2011 when everyone was releasing edm music . Beyonce did not put lemonade on streaming for 3 years . If Beyonce want money she will release another sasha fierce
Y’all need to say y’all don’t listen to CB past his singles. Literally every Chris Brown album has songs full of emotion this man has an album literally titled Heartbreak on a Full Moon that don’t sound emotional as hell to you? 😂
@@Tayloredup54 but his songs do sound the same I like Chris brown no lie he pop r&b now he do rap more than r&b now
@@terrelljackson1995 please namem
@@thomas3146 his rap songs look them up he pop r&b not r&b soul
This was a lot of tea 🫖 you need more views for this tbh!