Interesting interpretation. I always assumed that his "undercover experience" meant that he had also been an undercover like Bill and therefore also a former rat. His attitude towards Bill stemming from knowing what it takes to be a good undercover and also helping Bill vent his anger and anxiety.
it was ALL evidence he had of whatever kind (so... presumably, yes the recordings) Billy was wicked smart so i would also ASSUME not the "hard copy" (i e. HIS copy).... just copies of the documentation / evidence. or, simply what's WIDELY known as a "KILLSWITCH" though some ppl tend to confuse the envelope she opened (then played) with the envelope he handed her in the hallway (the killswitch, that is) HOWEVER, as you can see what she opened in the apt was ADDRESSED TO Colin, & had postage (as it had been sent through the mail)....AND though they all had 3rd-party association with one another, neither of the 3 realized they were all linked whatsoever (meaning Billy didn't know THAT'S where she had moved, just that she was moving / had moved, but not specifically that Colin was actually the bf she had moved in with) y'know what they say "it's a small world"....if they only knew! ALSO, it's only minimally (albeit subliminally) implied, but YES the baby's Billy's...as though we know they had relations, there were hinted "complications" in the bedroom (btw Madeline & Colin: Madeline: " do you you wanna talk about last night?" "guys tend tend to make a big deal of IT" "IT'S act quite common" Colin: 😒 "i gotta go to work" IT = "performance" problems....🙀 ...AS WELL AS she had something she wanted to tell Billy & he put it off 2 wks (of course he died b4 those 2 wks were over but 💁🏻♀️ I assume she was gonna mention the baby) & she ONLY, from what we were shown, revealed the baby news to Colin AFTER Billy stalled convo.
"I'm the guy who does his job; you must be the other guy." Dialogues in this movie are just pure gold. It's one of the most re-watchable 2 and 1/2 hour movies ever made. Also, this was the film where Martin Scorsese finally won the Oscar for Best Director. He had been nominated, lost five times before and got it on his sixth nomination. His previous nominations were for "Raging Bull", "The Last Temptation of Christ", "Goodfellas", "Gangs of New York" and "The Aviator". He has been nominated three more times for "Hugo", "The Wolf of Wall Street", "The Irishman" and now for "Killers of the Flower Moon". All of them are great films.
@@aimmethodyou genuinely can't compare the two imo, they are wildly different and the Departed was very much trying to do it's own thing. It's absolutely based on Infernal Affairs and has multiple things from it, but it is very clear Scorcese wanted to tell a different story and morality from the original, and I just can't compare the two as they are radically different to me, and they are telling two very different stories by virtue of the setting and characters.
It's a Celtic tradition of both Irish and Scottish that took jobs that no one else wanted to do, police and firefighters. So Italians had cosa nosta , Irish controlled police. Uilleann pipes is used to story telling by one person in pub, bagpipes are used in convoys when you have many players .
It's funny that George was surprised by the elevator death - that's almost exactly how it happened in "Infernal Affairs" (there were just fewer characters involved, but it was just as shocking and it happened as the elevator doors opened) I remember being really surprised Scorcese stuck with the darker ending - that doesn't usually happen when films get adapted for American audiences.
Exactly, I was like huh? Why did George think it was a different ending? Tony Leung's character (Leo's equivalent) got shot the exact same way in the elevator!
@@garylim1562 The Departed actually tries to one-up the original because Leung doesn't make it inside the elevator and is killed by the Anthony Edwards character.(who's dirty) So when Leo and Matt make it inside, some people probably thought they were in for a happier ending. But, nope.
The character of Frank Costello and his involvement with the FBI was very strongly inspired by the story of Whitey Bulger. Bulger was a gangster who rapidly climbed the ranks to become the head of organized crime in Boston and stayed there for decades. Everyone -- EVERYONE -- knew that he was a murderer, pimp, extortionist, and thief and the whole city wanted him put behind bars, but nothing ever stuck on him -- and the reason for that was that he was an FBI informant from way back, aided and abetted by the FBI to climb to the top and stay there. They constantly ran interfernce for him and kept the local police from bringing him down. Finally when the local and state police were going to arrest him, the FBI tipped him off so he could run and stay free for several more years. During the time he was an FBI informant, he committed or ordered to be committed an unknown number of murders (but certainly well into the double digits), all aided and abetted by the FBI. It is one of the most disgraceful and sickening episodes in American law enforcement history, and that's saying something.
people need to stop saying that a direct copy of an hong kong movie has characters inspired by some american gangster, the film company probably put this nonsense out there to lure the type of people that can't resist anything "based on a true story/character" to see the movie.
@@bikingchupei2447 The statement that this is a *direct copy* of is so absurd that it doesn't need to be debunked, but here goes anyway: a *direct copy* would be a shot-for-shot remake with direct translations of dialogue, the same characters (admittedly being renamed), and with nothing being added or subtracted. Since this is not even remotely close to being the case, you're completely wrong: this movie a remake,, but it is not anything. Also, do a little reading about Whitey Bulger and then tell me the character of Costello is not greatly inspired by him.
@bikingchupei2447 Dude, Costello is *obviously* based on Whitey Bulger to anyone who's ever followed/studied him. The movie is also an Americanized adaptation of Infernal Affairs. Both things can be true at the same time.
It might suck William died (great from a story point of view) but he did get his identity back, burial with full honors, revenge on Sullivan and is heavily implied to have a child on the way; I think that's as good an ending as you could get in this film.
Costigan had the integrity of a hero, making his death resonant and that much more painful after what he endured. He could have saved his own life after he noticed the 'Citizens' envelope, in a self-preserving escape from the knowledge that Sullivan was the rat, but he defiantly--and naively because there was more than just one rat--chose to be a cop despite the risk to his life.
3:08 There is a great video of Matt Damon talking about how Jack Nicholson made this scene so much more than it was intended to be. It's pretty funny hearing Jack break down the written word and expand upon it And Damon's telling of the story is phenomenal. "But if you leaving the camera rolling..."
direct from Google: Bagpipes were often played at Celtic funerals and ceils (dances). Many Irish and Scottish immigrants took jobs that were considered "dirty," like firefighters and police officers so the tradition carried over.
4:06 Boston has a long history of Irish cops. There was a lot of Irish hate in the 1800s when immigrants trying to escape the potato famine were coming to the states by the boatload. They found work in jobs that most would look down on, like factory work and hard labor. They had a hard time getting any respectable jobs. The police department was not so picky, and the Irish community got a strong foothold in the police department, and from then on, it has been a very Irish-friendly institution with a long Irish heritage.
The massive amounts of Irish immigrants in late 19th century East Coast cities like NYC and Boston, and their descendants joining city services led to the association with bagpipes. It became a kind of tradition that spread to departments elsewhere.
Which is a bit unfortunate to me as this is a remake and I think the original is better. Then again, making it cheesier through adding things like the love triangle isn't necessarily about direction.
Since you caught the actor from Shawshank who gave Billy "the wrong address," also note that Fitzy ("I'm not gonna be home for supper") is Stephen, Braveheart's crazy Irishman. If that's the film you know him from, his face/voice are totally unrecognizable here. So ... he's good.
I think this is the first reaction to The Departed on TH-cam where the reactor has seen Infernal Affairs first. So congrats! Seeing the translation from Hong Kong to Boston was one of the most interesting things about the film, especially considering Irish Mob movies aren't as popular as Italian Mafia films.
One cool thing to notice throughout the movie is how many people tell Costigan (Dicaprio) about going back to school Mark Wahlberg said he's an astrounaut, not a cop, Costello told him to go back to school and when he said no, he replied: Maybe one day you will wake the fuck up It's an interesting message for people who try to sabotage their own potential, and pretty tragic.
Every week I watch a movie I haven’t seen, and then I go to my reaction friends on TH-cam to see what everyone thinks. And every time, there is one channel that has reacted to the movie literally days before or the day of me watching it. This week you were the channel! Congrats!
I also love at the end we find out that Billy was more trusted by Jack Nicholson than Matt Damon. That Billy did such an amazing job covering his tracks despite him having a good hunch it should have been him. It also parallels Matt Damon with exception of Mark is able to fool every body despite him also being the more obvious choice as rat.
One of my favorite movies, whenever I watch it, it becomes my answer to "what's your favorite movie?" or "what's a movie you recommend?" for like 2 weeks
Scorsese Actually showed the roots of this hatred between them in Gangs of New York, when the fire fighters joind the mobs in the protests in the last part of the movie, and the Police was shooting them dead
Along with their other belongings, the Irish brought their deep-rooted Celtic traditions with them. One of those happened to be the playing of bagpipes at weddings, dances and funerals.
It is, the only other ones that immediately jump to mind are Let Me In/Let The Right One In, Vanilla Sky/Open Your Eyes, and City of Angels/Wings of Desire. I'm sure there's more but those are the ones that I can think of right now.
@@chrisleebowers Scarface has to be the most over rated flick of all time. its not a "bad" movie, but it get held up as this "epic masterpiece" or one of "the best gangster flicks of all time" when it doesn't hold up to anything Scorcese made, and is at best at the bottom of De'palma's top 5. Hell I thought one from 1930 was better than the 1980 version.
I never had a movie theater experience like this one. The amount of anxiety and stress I was feeling has never been felt before. In my opinion, this is the best movie ever made.
Your comment reminded me of my own experience...I remember seeing it in a packed cinema, Saturday night. The moment the guy was thrown from the roof the entire audience gasped in unison, it was such a collective shock! It was really incredible, you don't get cinema experiences like that anymore :(
While I'm genuinely happy for him that he's one of the few famous actors who was able to retire and stay retired, his screen presence is sorely missed. Who knows how many more great performances he had in him. (Ditto Gene Hackman and the late Sean Connery.)
The movie that finally won Martin Scorcese a Best Director Oscar. Though circumstantially it was kind of obvious when the people presenting the award that year were Steven Spielberg and George Lucas. (Edit: And Francis Ford Coppola.)
Insane how many times Scorsese was nominated for an Oscar and finally won Best Director/Best Picture for this one (as I feel it's VINTAGE Scorsese). His nomination for KILLERS OF THE FLOWER MOON this year actually set a record; with 10 nominations, he's now the most Oscar nominated Director
I know it’s part of their thing but I never know what Simone‘s openings mean. I have not understood a single one I think since the show started. I’m sure it’s just me but I honestly have no idea what she’s talking about every time she introduces a show ha ha ha :-) Love you guys though!
At the end of the day it was pretty dumb of Leo to just leave the station. He could have solved everything then and there if only he played along with Matt Damon a little longer
I'm a flight medic on primarily helicopters, one time our company lent an aircraft to be used in a hospital drama. So, when I was on set with the aircraft I sort of became the defacto technical advisor, they had ZERO interest in doing much of anything realistically. The one actor playing a medic did ask me what I would say to the pilot to get him to fly faster? I replied that that wasn't a thing since we always fly as fast as we can in the first place, otherwise, why would you call me? He didn't like that answer and asked anyways in the episode (which I understand, a speaking roll!), there were sooo many other examples of it though and I was only there for 1 day!
THE OMG count is back!!! I loved both of your reactions!!! How about that surprise ending? Simone's reaction was so awesome! I loved the editing in this video. Thank you both!!
Good one, S&G! Yeah, this is some twisty story for sure. When I saw you were doing it I was excited to rewatch it with you. You are a pair of sharp tools, bright bulbs, and you always have an interesting take in your reactions. Plus you can be goofy, silly too. You're my favs! Thanks for sharing this one. 🙂
🤣 spent the whole watching time waiting for Simone react to Leonardo DiCaprio, getting killed in the elevator! Made my day… what the fuck!…what the fuck!
The bagpipe connection with certain police and firemen units goes way back to the first police and fire departments were being formed in early American cities by Irish immigrants. The movie is also loosely based on actual events of the Boston Winter Hill Gang with Jack's character based on mob boss Whitney Bulger and Matt's character based on corrupt FBI agent John Connolly.
The best part of the reaction to this film is the shock when Leonardo Dicaprio's character is killed and the domino effect afterward! It was funny when George said, "Don't ever do that again, Alec Baldwin that was upsetting." 😂😂😂😂
Technical Editing note - I really like how at the end you minimized the separation between the two of you, making it feel almost like you were in the same space. I also like the "zoom in zoom outs" that you did in post to give more dynamics. What I would recommend as an experiment is to replicate those zooms in the other footage to make it seem more cohesive. Really curious to see what that would look like. Also, I wonder how well it would work if you each placed the same real world vertical object on your tables whilst filming at the edge of each of your frames when they are aligned side by side. Simone’s on screen right and yours on screen left. Then you could split that object down the middle when compositing and it would really look like you were in the same room. Especially with the identical post zooms. It would take a bit of work though, because you’d need to add a third masked layer of the other room to fill in the gap of the room where your layer size and horizontal position shift whilst “zooming” went beyond that footage’s scope. Damn, now I’m really curious to see how that would work!
The accents are all over the place. Of course, Damon and Wahlberg, who both grew up around Boston, are the best at it. Nicholson barely even tries to do one.
"Bagpipes were often played at Celtic funerals and ceils (dances). Many Irish and Scottish immigrants took jobs that were considered "dirty," like firefighters and police officers so the tradition carried over."
The ending is actually exactly the same as Infernal Affairs up until Whalberg kills Damon. In the original the Damon/Lau character gets away with it until the sequels.
Collin was looking at Madolyn in confusion at Billy's funeral. About why she was there, how she knew him and why she was so upset. You can tell by his face he is piecing it together. Then he asks her about the baby. I think it's implying it's Billy's kid, not Collin's. I believe the envelope contained the documents Billy was talking about on the roof. We only heard the tape; we didn't see the documents. I think it also had a note from Billy telling her to go to Dignam with it. When Billy died, I think she gave the documents to Dignam. Still, he figured after everyone died and treated Collin like a hero, and since Dignam resigned from the police, he couldn't prove it, so Dignam decided just to murder Collin.
Scottish-style pipes, which are louder and better suited to outdoor events, began to appear at American Irish funerals in the 19th and early 20th centuries-right around the time big-city police departments in the U.S. were becoming heavily Irish.
When you compare this to many other films, in terms of character development, the script, and the complexity of the plot, this is on another level which I think does exemplify Martin Scorsese's body of work when you think of Goodfellas, Wolf of Wall Street, Gangs of New York, the last two also starring De Caprio of course. Whilst it's been a while since I last saw this, it still stands out in my mind as being incredibly gritty, raw, and a very developed storyline, even if the concept on the face of it is simple. I didn't know that it was a remake until George mentioned it. Other research says that it is also loosely based on the real life Boston Winter Hill Gang, which involved a corrupt FBI agent John Connolly.
Third hand information but a friend of mine, working in the HK movie industry, knew someone who went with the Inferno Affairs director to see the Departed in the cinema, (the director apparently) was not happy with what he saw, swearing and what-not coming out of the cinema. I remember agreeing with the sentiment at the time that the Departed lost (for me) the most central part of what made Inferno Affairs great: the symmetry/strong similarities between the "good" guys and the "bad" guys, hence the tagline. It has been close to 20 years so perhaps I should watch both movies again to see if I spot something new or still feel the same.
I remember seeing this movie in the theaters and it was amazing with an all-star cast and it won an Oscar for Best Picture including Martin Scorsese won an Oscar for Best Director, great memories, cool reaction as always Simone & George, you both take care and have a nice day
That was a gud cold open. I felt Simone's conviction! I felt like she really built a chair and was mad at me for questioning whether or not someone actually cared for it. Can't wait for the montage of Simone's cold opens and George's sillies at some point in the future :]
I remember how much fun George and Simone had with Superbad. I wish they would react to movies along those lines. I’m surprised there hasn’t been a reaction to Knocked Up or Forgetting Sarah Marshall.
Excellent reaction. You guys need to watch the extract from an interview where Matt Damon tells the story behind the " She fell funny" scene. It's priceless.
You guys should check out Black Mass with Johnny Depp playing the role of Bulger (Jack Nicholsons character). Bulger was a real criminal and the story is based on true events.
I love Scorcese & I love this film. Everybody is great but Mark Wahlberg’s character always makes me laugh. Unfortunately, I knew what happened to Leonardo’s character because I saw the original (Infernal Affairs). However, it was very different - more brutal & unforgiving in The Departed. If you see this, you should watch Carlito’s Way, Blow Out, Warriors, Serpico, Taxi Driver, Midnight Run, Raging Bull, Grave of the Fireflies & The Running Man …
Service jobs in the public sector usually attract low income people that might not have many opportunities, thats why the military is full of men and women coming from those backgrounds. The job offers stability, insurance, education. More often than not low income means immigrant and in the case of Boston said immigrants were mostly Irish that came at the beginning to the mid XX century. At some point Irish immigrants were a huge part if not the majority of the force (as tangentially illustrated in the movie) and they just culturally appropriated the force as their own, if you were of Irish decent the force is prepared to give you an Irish salute because they are just in the majority. This is a view you might see in New York, New Jersey, Chicago and Baltimore because the Irish immigration there is also very high but not in Miami or Los Angeles were the immigrant population is from different backgrounds.
Love your reaction as always. Ray Winstone, who plays Jack Nicholson's right-hand man in this movie, stars in a British gangster movie called "Sexy Beast". If you haven't seen this, it is a must watch! Ray Winstone is fantastic in it, but the performance alongside him by Sir Ben Kingsley will blow your mind! BTW, they've just made a prequel TV series to it of the same name. It's pretty good too. 👍
I always thought George and Simone were dating but she made a comment that watching explicit scene feels like watching with a parent. Are they not a couple?
I live in Boston, and I remember the kerfuffle when this movie came out. Mostly because it was largely shot in New York. Which we took as a personal insult and changed our incentives to get more productions to film here. The depiction of Boston is pretty good! The Staties are currently facing receivership, it's bad. The big thing I noticed is that they insult triple-deckers as being trashy... really that's just how we build 'em here, like the dense LA bungalows.
This reaction caught me by surprise and I loved it. Couple things at the end I want to comment on. Brad Pitt was the one who made this movie happen. Without googling I think he was supposed to be one of the characters - the movie got delayed and he was committed to another movie but managed to get this cast together so he got a PRODUCER credit. The Scorcese (sp?) not knowing is something I've never heard of because one ... a director of his caliber coming in after a major star dropped out means he did it on the fly? Especially a historian of film like M.S. is? No fucking way. Also ... also (not a typo) don't remember when Infernal Affairs came out but this was an IN TOO DEEP remake for me.
Simone, holy fucking shit, that was the funniest and most random intro that you've concocted yet! Love them all, but my reaction mirrored George's this time. Well done!
I am 99% sure that Madolyn's baby, is William's(Leo's), because they made a point of explicitly telling us that Collin(Matt) had performance issues. So it is fitting she leaves him and takes the baby, before knowing he was killed.
When Madolyn reveals that she's pregnant the implication is that the child was fathered by Costigan and not Sullivan. Sullivan had some "intimacy issues" earlier in the film to somewhat foreshadow this.
"I'm waiting for Mark Wahlberg's character to do something."
I loved this more than I should. 😁
Fr lol
That last scene makes him my favorite of the entire movie and deserveing of a sequel based on the character 🤣
I love that Mark Wahlberg's character was the one left in the end. In a movie full of rats, he was 100% honest with Leo from the beginning.
I'm so glad he got revenge at the end
Interesting interpretation. I always assumed that his "undercover experience" meant that he had also been an undercover like Bill and therefore also a former rat. His attitude towards Bill stemming from knowing what it takes to be a good undercover and also helping Bill vent his anger and anxiety.
The envelope he gave her was the truth to give to Dignam which is how he found out and closed the loop
It was the recordings wasn't it?
@@eXpriest no, he mailed the tapes directly to Sullivan. She opened them and listened to them because they were from W.M Costigan.
Interesting. So, she killed someone, too.
it was ALL evidence he had of whatever kind (so... presumably, yes the recordings)
Billy was wicked smart so i would also ASSUME not the "hard copy" (i e. HIS copy).... just copies of the documentation / evidence.
or, simply what's WIDELY known as a "KILLSWITCH"
though some ppl tend to confuse the envelope she opened (then played) with the envelope he handed her in the hallway (the killswitch, that is) HOWEVER, as you can see what she opened in the apt was ADDRESSED TO Colin, & had postage (as it had been sent through the mail)....AND though they all had 3rd-party association with one another, neither of the 3 realized they were all linked whatsoever (meaning Billy didn't know THAT'S where she had moved, just that she was moving / had moved, but not specifically that Colin was actually the bf she had moved in with)
y'know what they say "it's a small world"....if they only knew!
ALSO, it's only minimally (albeit subliminally) implied, but YES the baby's Billy's...as though we know they had relations, there were hinted "complications" in the bedroom (btw Madeline & Colin:
Madeline: " do you you wanna talk about last night?"
"guys tend tend to make a big deal of IT"
"IT'S act quite common"
Colin: 😒 "i gotta go to work"
IT = "performance" problems....🙀
...AS WELL AS she had something she wanted to tell Billy & he put it off 2 wks (of course he died b4 those 2 wks were over but 💁🏻♀️ I assume she was gonna mention the baby) & she ONLY, from what we were shown, revealed the baby news to Colin AFTER Billy stalled convo.
@@wobdardenShe probably kept the baby since it was Billy's.
"I'm the guy who does his job; you must be the other guy."
Dialogues in this movie are just pure gold. It's one of the most re-watchable 2 and 1/2 hour movies ever made.
Also, this was the film where Martin Scorsese finally won the Oscar for Best Director. He had been nominated, lost five times before and got it on his sixth nomination. His previous nominations were for "Raging Bull", "The Last Temptation of Christ", "Goodfellas", "Gangs of New York" and "The Aviator". He has been nominated three more times for "Hugo", "The Wolf of Wall Street", "The Irishman" and now for "Killers of the Flower Moon". All of them are great films.
"I'm the guy who survives this f*cking movie, you must be the other guy"
Great line. What's fun is that Mark Wahlberg turned out to be one of The Other Guys himself!
This movie pales out in front of the original Hong Kong version, " Infernal Affairs".
This movie has several of my favourite actors, but Wahlberg steals every scene he's in.
@@aimmethodyou genuinely can't compare the two imo, they are wildly different and the Departed was very much trying to do it's own thing. It's absolutely based on Infernal Affairs and has multiple things from it, but it is very clear Scorcese wanted to tell a different story and morality from the original, and I just can't compare the two as they are radically different to me, and they are telling two very different stories by virtue of the setting and characters.
The bagpipes thing is largely just about the high percentage of Irish immigrants that went into civil service jobs in New England.
Yeah, but Irish bagpipes, or Uilleann pipes, look and sound completely different from the Scottish pipes that Americans use.
@@Twiska Yeah. They should have Uilleann pipes not bagpipes. Very different sound.
dear fuck its not a documentary
Boston especially.
It's a Celtic tradition of both Irish and Scottish that took jobs that no one else wanted to do, police and firefighters.
So Italians had cosa nosta , Irish controlled police.
Uilleann pipes is used to story telling by one person in pub, bagpipes are used in convoys when you have many players .
The shocked silence in the theater after THAT moment was insane.
a woman screamed loud one of the times that happened when I saw it lol
There was some guy who screamed "OH COME ON!" at the theater I was in!
@@prollins6443that's the appropriate reaction.
@@Kaspar.C0LDclearly the elevator
Same with the guy taking the express elevator around the middle of the movie
I love that Matt Damon's first scene is in a class room studying the very way he gets killed at the end.
That is ironic.
"MATT DAMON!!"
It's funny that George was surprised by the elevator death - that's almost exactly how it happened in "Infernal Affairs" (there were just fewer characters involved, but it was just as shocking and it happened as the elevator doors opened) I remember being really surprised Scorcese stuck with the darker ending - that doesn't usually happen when films get adapted for American audiences.
If i remember correctly leo character in the HK version lived and they made two more infernal affairs movies
There was no other ending...
Exactly, I was like huh? Why did George think it was a different ending? Tony Leung's character (Leo's equivalent) got shot the exact same way in the elevator!
@@garylim1562 The Departed actually tries to one-up the original because Leung doesn't make it inside the elevator and is killed by the Anthony Edwards character.(who's dirty) So when Leo and Matt make it inside, some people probably thought they were in for a happier ending. But, nope.
@@Nodice-qq7jono, the Damon character lives. The Leo character dies in exactly the same way.
24:55 he also played Drake in Aliens, and FBI agent Warren Russ in Rush Hour, and more recently, Norman Osbourne in the spider-man games
The character of Frank Costello and his involvement with the FBI was very strongly inspired by the story of Whitey Bulger. Bulger was a gangster who rapidly climbed the ranks to become the head of organized crime in Boston and stayed there for decades. Everyone -- EVERYONE -- knew that he was a murderer, pimp, extortionist, and thief and the whole city wanted him put behind bars, but nothing ever stuck on him -- and the reason for that was that he was an FBI informant from way back, aided and abetted by the FBI to climb to the top and stay there. They constantly ran interfernce for him and kept the local police from bringing him down. Finally when the local and state police were going to arrest him, the FBI tipped him off so he could run and stay free for several more years.
During the time he was an FBI informant, he committed or ordered to be committed an unknown number of murders (but certainly well into the double digits), all aided and abetted by the FBI. It is one of the most disgraceful and sickening episodes in American law enforcement history, and that's saying something.
people need to stop saying that a direct copy of an hong kong movie has characters inspired by some american gangster, the film company probably put this nonsense out there to lure the type of people that can't resist anything "based on a true story/character" to see the movie.
@@bikingchupei2447 The statement that this is a *direct copy* of is so absurd that it doesn't need to be debunked, but here goes anyway: a *direct copy* would be a shot-for-shot remake with direct translations of dialogue, the same characters (admittedly being renamed), and with nothing being added or subtracted. Since this is not even remotely close to being the case, you're completely wrong: this movie a remake,, but it is not anything. Also, do a little reading about Whitey Bulger and then tell me the character of Costello is not greatly inspired by him.
why should i read about whitey bulger when i know the characters are inspired by hong kong gangs like the triads.@@gregghelmberger
@bikingchupei2447
Dude, Costello is *obviously* based on Whitey Bulger to anyone who's ever followed/studied him.
The movie is also an Americanized adaptation of Infernal Affairs. Both things can be true at the same time.
@@bikingchupei2447 Martin Scorsese is on record saying the character was based on Whitey Bulger.
It might suck William died (great from a story point of view) but he did get his identity back, burial with full honors, revenge on Sullivan and is heavily implied to have a child on the way; I think that's as good an ending as you could get in this film.
Costigan had the integrity of a hero, making his death resonant and that much more painful after what he endured. He could have saved his own life after he noticed the 'Citizens' envelope, in a self-preserving escape from the knowledge that Sullivan was the rat, but he defiantly--and naively because there was more than just one rat--chose to be a cop despite the risk to his life.
@@jackj.pelletier1666beautifully said.
3:08 There is a great video of Matt Damon talking about how Jack Nicholson made this scene so much more than it was intended to be. It's pretty funny hearing Jack break down the written word and expand upon it And Damon's telling of the story is phenomenal. "But if you leaving the camera rolling..."
Is it the “I can make it creepier...” video? If yes that’s really amazing!
direct from Google: Bagpipes were often played at Celtic funerals and ceils (dances). Many Irish and Scottish immigrants took jobs that were considered "dirty," like firefighters and police officers so the tradition carried over.
4:06 Boston has a long history of Irish cops. There was a lot of Irish hate in the 1800s when immigrants trying to escape the potato famine were coming to the states by the boatload. They found work in jobs that most would look down on, like factory work and hard labor. They had a hard time getting any respectable jobs. The police department was not so picky, and the Irish community got a strong foothold in the police department, and from then on, it has been a very Irish-friendly institution with a long Irish heritage.
The massive amounts of Irish immigrants in late 19th century East Coast cities like NYC and Boston, and their descendants joining city services led to the association with bagpipes.
It became a kind of tradition that spread to departments elsewhere.
This is the film that finally got Martin Scorcese a very long awaited best director Oscar
but not leo even though he deserved one like 4 times over, nah he had to do his most boring movie before that happened
Which is a bit unfortunate to me as this is a remake and I think the original is better. Then again, making it cheesier through adding things like the love triangle isn't necessarily about direction.
@@OmegaSaiyan92 Hard for me to find The Revenant boring, but to each their own.
Ironically, it's one of only two movies he remade (The other is "Cape Fear") and the orignal is better directed
@@storkfletcher821 I loved the original, Infernal Affairs much better than this one.
Since you caught the actor from Shawshank who gave Billy "the wrong address," also note that Fitzy ("I'm not gonna be home for supper") is Stephen, Braveheart's crazy Irishman. If that's the film you know him from, his face/voice are totally unrecognizable here. So ... he's good.
Holy crap, had no clue
first movie comes to mind is Aliens
Mark Rolston. He's also in Lethal Weapon 2, RoboCop 2, Saw V & VI and a 2012 documentary called That Guy... Who Was in That Thing.
I think this is the first reaction to The Departed on TH-cam where the reactor has seen Infernal Affairs first. So congrats! Seeing the translation from Hong Kong to Boston was one of the most interesting things about the film, especially considering Irish Mob movies aren't as popular as Italian Mafia films.
Some pretty good ones though: Millers Crossing, Gangs of New York, the Town, Road to Perdition, Kill the Irishman, Boondocks Saints.
One cool thing to notice throughout the movie is how many people tell Costigan (Dicaprio) about going back to school
Mark Wahlberg said he's an astrounaut, not a cop, Costello told him to go back to school and when he said no, he replied: Maybe one day you will wake the fuck up
It's an interesting message for people who try to sabotage their own potential, and pretty tragic.
This is one of my FAVORITE films of all time. I just love the writing so much. Every character shines. It's an incredible script.
Every week I watch a movie I haven’t seen, and then I go to my reaction friends on TH-cam to see what everyone thinks. And every time, there is one channel that has reacted to the movie literally days before or the day of me watching it. This week you were the channel! Congrats!
I also love at the end we find out that Billy was more trusted by Jack Nicholson than Matt Damon. That Billy did such an amazing job covering his tracks despite him having a good hunch it should have been him. It also parallels Matt Damon with exception of Mark is able to fool every body despite him also being the more obvious choice as rat.
One of my favorite movies, whenever I watch it, it becomes my answer to "what's your favorite movie?" or "what's a movie you recommend?" for like 2 weeks
Cops and firefighters have a rivalry that's as old as time. It's just a thing, very much like the rivalry between branches of the military
Although it's heavily one-sided from what I've seen. A lot of cops seem jealous that everybody loves and respects firefighters lmao
Scorsese Actually showed the roots of this hatred between them in Gangs of New York, when the fire fighters joind the mobs in the protests in the last part of the movie, and the Police was shooting them dead
Along with their other belongings, the Irish brought their deep-rooted Celtic traditions with them. One of those happened to be the playing of bagpipes at weddings, dances and funerals.
It seems rare that a legitimately great film gets remade into another legitimately great film
It is, the only other ones that immediately jump to mind are Let Me In/Let The Right One In, Vanilla Sky/Open Your Eyes, and City of Angels/Wings of Desire.
I'm sure there's more but those are the ones that I can think of right now.
King Kong 2005
Bram Stoker's Dracula
The Fly
The Blob
Scarface
True Grit
War of The Worlds
A Star is Born
And from Martin again: Cape Fear
@@chrisleebowers Scarface has to be the most over rated flick of all time. its not a "bad" movie, but it get held up as this "epic masterpiece" or one of "the best gangster flicks of all time" when it doesn't hold up to anything Scorcese made, and is at best at the bottom of De'palma's top 5. Hell I thought one from 1930 was better than the 1980 version.
@@sbanta22 Cool story bro
One of the best movies ever. I don't think I have ever been so shocked by an ending before.
I never had a movie theater experience like this one. The amount of anxiety and stress I was feeling has never been felt before. In my opinion, this is the best movie ever made.
Your comment reminded me of my own experience...I remember seeing it in a packed cinema, Saturday night. The moment the guy was thrown from the roof the entire audience gasped in unison, it was such a collective shock! It was really incredible, you don't get cinema experiences like that anymore :(
It was great! The theatre experience reminds me of when I saw Get Out in a packed theatre. The tension was palpable.
It's a great movie but best movie ever made? U gotta be kidding!
Check out the OG Infernal Affairs
Mark Whalberg played so well the 'rightful asshole' character I'm still impressed with how he embodied that part in this movie.
yeah wonder how he got to that place must have be sooo hard for him
Wahlberg can pull some great acting out of his ass when he's not all clinched up.
This is the SeCOND best use of cellphones in a movie. The best is a movie called Cellular.
I've come to absolutely love Simone's off the wall intros that always end with George going "....WHAT"
I always thought this movie was about Whitey Bulger. According to Bing ai, it was based on Whitey Bulger and Internal Affairs.
Jack Nicholson's character is inspired by Whitey Bulger.
Jack Nicholson showed some ppl he still has it in him
While I'm genuinely happy for him that he's one of the few famous actors who was able to retire and stay retired, his screen presence is sorely missed. Who knows how many more great performances he had in him. (Ditto Gene Hackman and the late Sean Connery.)
The movie that finally won Martin Scorcese a Best Director Oscar. Though circumstantially it was kind of obvious when the people presenting the award that year were Steven Spielberg and George Lucas. (Edit: And Francis Ford Coppola.)
And Coppola.
@@tigqc - Oh yeah! Thanks for that.
The movie that finally won him one was ripped off from Hong Kong.
@@walker1812 -It's acknowledged in the credits that it's based off Infernal Affairs. Not just blatant stealing.
The Baby was Leo's
4:13 for a long time most cops were mainly of Irish and Scottish descent
George, if you remember Infernal Affairs, that was basically Cell Phone: The Movie.
Starring Maaaat Daaaaammminnn and Arec Bargüin, members of the Film Actors Guild.
lol team america
Insane how many times Scorsese was nominated for an Oscar and finally won Best Director/Best Picture for this one (as I feel it's VINTAGE Scorsese). His nomination for KILLERS OF THE FLOWER MOON this year actually set a record; with 10 nominations, he's now the most Oscar nominated Director
I love y’all’s synergy and am excited to watch along on my lunch break
I know it’s part of their thing but I never know what Simone‘s openings mean. I have not understood a single one I think since the show started. I’m sure it’s just me but I honestly have no idea what she’s talking about every time she introduces a show ha ha ha :-) Love you guys though!
3:22 simone has the patience of job, but she's gonna cuss george out one day.
Had to come back and say look at the cat looking at Simone when Costigan gets killed lol...and George's reaction also is great
“The rat symbolizes obviousness”
-Ralph Wiggum
the envelope contained the CDS of the recorded phone conversations between Colin and Costello.
At the end of the day it was pretty dumb of Leo to just leave the station. He could have solved everything then and there if only he played along with Matt Damon a little longer
I'm a flight medic on primarily helicopters, one time our company lent an aircraft to be used in a hospital drama. So, when I was on set with the aircraft I sort of became the defacto technical advisor, they had ZERO interest in doing much of anything realistically. The one actor playing a medic did ask me what I would say to the pilot to get him to fly faster? I replied that that wasn't a thing since we always fly as fast as we can in the first place, otherwise, why would you call me? He didn't like that answer and asked anyways in the episode (which I understand, a speaking roll!), there were sooo many other examples of it though and I was only there for 1 day!
THE OMG count is back!!! I loved both of your reactions!!! How about that surprise ending? Simone's reaction was so awesome! I loved the editing in this video. Thank you both!!
"You're soaking wet &so am I." Sometimes George's time in the adult film industry just comes out.
Gangs of new york also had a wild cast and i think a few actors from this movie.
Gangs of new your sucked
@@kukuruzzo whats gangs of new your?
@@kukuruzzo horrendous take
Good one, S&G! Yeah, this is some twisty story for sure. When I saw you were doing it I was excited to rewatch it with you. You are a pair of sharp tools, bright bulbs, and you always have an interesting take in your reactions. Plus you can be goofy, silly too. You're my favs! Thanks for sharing this one. 🙂
🤣 spent the whole watching time waiting for Simone react to Leonardo DiCaprio, getting killed in the elevator! Made my day… what the fuck!…what the fuck!
Matt Damon texting with his phone in his pocket - I saw that and determined I too would become that skilled at texting lol.
Movie summary by Simone:
"This rat is messaging that rat, and... and it's not good"
I remember seeing this in the theater. When Leo got shot in the elevator, I literally screamed “wtf?!” Out loud. 😂
Also, amazing movie, one of my favorite growing up
This is my favorite Scorsese movie! Just an amazing cast and wonderful film making!
And that's how the movie Ratatouille starts.
Can't believe I'm saying this.....George looks REALLY good with a crew cut 😂
The bagpipe connection with certain police and firemen units goes way back to the first police and fire departments were being formed in early American cities by Irish immigrants. The movie is also loosely based on actual events of the Boston Winter Hill Gang with Jack's character based on mob boss Whitney Bulger and Matt's character based on corrupt FBI agent John Connolly.
The best part of the reaction to this film is the shock when Leonardo Dicaprio's character is killed and the domino effect afterward! It was funny when George said, "Don't ever do that again, Alec Baldwin that was upsetting." 😂😂😂😂
The mutual rat phonecall scene was great, so much said with no words.
Technical Editing note - I really like how at the end you minimized the separation between the two of you, making it feel almost like you were in the same space. I also like the "zoom in zoom outs" that you did in post to give more dynamics. What I would recommend as an experiment is to replicate those zooms in the other footage to make it seem more cohesive. Really curious to see what that would look like. Also, I wonder how well it would work if you each placed the same real world vertical object on your tables whilst filming at the edge of each of your frames when they are aligned side by side. Simone’s on screen right and yours on screen left. Then you could split that object down the middle when compositing and it would really look like you were in the same room. Especially with the identical post zooms. It would take a bit of work though, because you’d need to add a third masked layer of the other room to fill in the gap of the room where your layer size and horizontal position shift whilst “zooming” went beyond that footage’s scope. Damn, now I’m really curious to see how that would work!
The accents are all over the place. Of course, Damon and Wahlberg, who both grew up around Boston, are the best at it. Nicholson barely even tries to do one.
Would Scorsese have agreed to a remake? He did with Cape Fear.
"Bagpipes were often played at Celtic funerals and ceils (dances). Many Irish and Scottish immigrants took jobs that were considered "dirty," like firefighters and police officers so the tradition carried over."
The ending is actually exactly the same as Infernal Affairs up until Whalberg kills Damon. In the original the Damon/Lau character gets away with it until the sequels.
Yes!! My favorite movie of all time!
Collin was looking at Madolyn in confusion at Billy's funeral. About why she was there, how she knew him and why she was so upset. You can tell by his face he is piecing it together. Then he asks her about the baby. I think it's implying it's Billy's kid, not Collin's. I believe the envelope contained the documents Billy was talking about on the roof. We only heard the tape; we didn't see the documents. I think it also had a note from Billy telling her to go to Dignam with it. When Billy died, I think she gave the documents to Dignam. Still, he figured after everyone died and treated Collin like a hero, and since Dignam resigned from the police, he couldn't prove it, so Dignam decided just to murder Collin.
Solid conclusions.
Yea not many people think about the baby part
Dignam's easily my favorite character in the film.
Scottish-style pipes, which are louder and better suited to outdoor events, began to appear at American Irish funerals in the 19th and early 20th centuries-right around the time big-city police departments in the U.S. were becoming heavily Irish.
The Charminator “Come with me if you want to brighten my day with your presence”.
When you compare this to many other films, in terms of character development, the script, and the complexity of the plot, this is on another level which I think does exemplify Martin Scorsese's body of work when you think of Goodfellas, Wolf of Wall Street, Gangs of New York, the last two also starring De Caprio of course. Whilst it's been a while since I last saw this, it still stands out in my mind as being incredibly gritty, raw, and a very developed storyline, even if the concept on the face of it is simple.
I didn't know that it was a remake until George mentioned it. Other research says that it is also loosely based on the real life Boston Winter Hill Gang, which involved a corrupt FBI agent John Connolly.
Third hand information but a friend of mine, working in the HK movie industry, knew someone who went with the Inferno Affairs director to see the Departed in the cinema, (the director apparently) was not happy with what he saw, swearing and what-not coming out of the cinema.
I remember agreeing with the sentiment at the time that the Departed lost (for me) the most central part of what made Inferno Affairs great: the symmetry/strong similarities between the "good" guys and the "bad" guys, hence the tagline. It has been close to 20 years so perhaps I should watch both movies again to see if I spot something new or still feel the same.
I remember seeing this movie in the theaters and it was amazing with an all-star cast and it won an Oscar for Best Picture including Martin Scorsese won an Oscar for Best Director, great memories, cool reaction as always Simone & George, you both take care and have a nice day
That was a gud cold open. I felt Simone's conviction! I felt like she really built a chair and was mad at me for questioning whether or not someone actually cared for it. Can't wait for the montage of Simone's cold opens and George's sillies at some point in the future :]
I remember how much fun George and Simone had with Superbad. I wish they would react to movies along those lines. I’m surprised there hasn’t been a reaction to Knocked Up or Forgetting Sarah Marshall.
Funny that George brought up Band of Brothers as the dirty cop who shot Leo was Bob Leckie in The Pacific.
Excellent reaction. You guys need to watch the extract from an interview where Matt Damon tells the story behind the " She fell funny" scene. It's priceless.
I remember when I first saw this, and the shocking twist towards the end, I remember I was speechless for a very long time!
You guys should check out Black Mass with Johnny Depp playing the role of Bulger (Jack Nicholsons character). Bulger was a real criminal and the story is based on true events.
I love Scorcese & I love this film. Everybody is great but Mark Wahlberg’s character always makes me laugh.
Unfortunately, I knew what happened to Leonardo’s character because I saw the original (Infernal Affairs). However, it was very different - more brutal & unforgiving in The Departed.
If you see this, you should watch Carlito’s Way, Blow Out, Warriors, Serpico, Taxi Driver, Midnight Run, Raging Bull, Grave of the Fireflies & The Running Man …
30:18 - OMG!!! I was counting down the seconds for you to get to this scene!!! Your reaction was worth it. :-)
Service jobs in the public sector usually attract low income people that might not have many opportunities, thats why the military is full of men and women coming from those backgrounds. The job offers stability, insurance, education. More often than not low income means immigrant and in the case of Boston said immigrants were mostly Irish that came at the beginning to the mid XX century. At some point Irish immigrants were a huge part if not the majority of the force (as tangentially illustrated in the movie) and they just culturally appropriated the force as their own, if you were of Irish decent the force is prepared to give you an Irish salute because they are just in the majority. This is a view you might see in New York, New Jersey, Chicago and Baltimore because the Irish immigration there is also very high but not in Miami or Los Angeles were the immigrant population is from different backgrounds.
At this point I am just here for Simone's intros, everything else is just bonus
Next Martin Scorsese film I’d totally recommend is “Silence.” Very good film.
I was surprised at how often I could just answer: The Irish. to George's questions.
Love your reaction as always. Ray Winstone, who plays Jack Nicholson's right-hand man in this movie, stars in a British gangster movie called "Sexy Beast". If you haven't seen this, it is a must watch! Ray Winstone is fantastic in it, but the performance alongside him by Sir Ben Kingsley will blow your mind! BTW, they've just made a prequel TV series to it of the same name. It's pretty good too. 👍
I always thought George and Simone were dating but she made a comment that watching explicit scene feels like watching with a parent. Are they not a couple?
I don't think so. It doesn't seem they are ever in the same location when recording too.
I live in Boston, and I remember the kerfuffle when this movie came out. Mostly because it was largely shot in New York. Which we took as a personal insult and changed our incentives to get more productions to film here.
The depiction of Boston is pretty good! The Staties are currently facing receivership, it's bad. The big thing I noticed is that they insult triple-deckers as being trashy... really that's just how we build 'em here, like the dense LA bungalows.
This reaction caught me by surprise and I loved it. Couple things at the end I want to comment on. Brad Pitt was the one who made this movie happen. Without googling I think he was supposed to be one of the characters - the movie got delayed and he was committed to another movie but managed to get this cast together so he got a PRODUCER credit. The Scorcese (sp?) not knowing is something I've never heard of because one ... a director of his caliber coming in after a major star dropped out means he did it on the fly? Especially a historian of film like M.S. is? No fucking way.
Also ... also (not a typo) don't remember when Infernal Affairs came out but this was an IN TOO DEEP remake for me.
Simone, holy fucking shit, that was the funniest and most random intro that you've concocted yet! Love them all, but my reaction mirrored George's this time. Well done!
I am 99% sure that Madolyn's baby, is William's(Leo's), because they made a point of explicitly telling us that Collin(Matt) had performance issues. So it is fitting she leaves him and takes the baby, before knowing he was killed.
When Madolyn reveals that she's pregnant the implication is that the child was fathered by Costigan and not Sullivan. Sullivan had some "intimacy issues" earlier in the film to somewhat foreshadow this.
The real Whitey Bulger (Nicholson's inspiration) was in his 90's and living in a normal apartment as a retired man when he was finally arrested.
I was hoping the channel's signature character placement thumbnail was for the movie theatre surprise scene instead! That look of fear! 😆
Another trivia, every time someone dies in the movie, there’s a X somewhere in the scene
I only just now noticed it on the carpet under Colin in the hallway right before he gets shot
Have you seen Shutter Island? That's the movie Leo should have won SOMETHING for... It's Scorsese too I believe. Amazing film.
Yes, Shutter Island is directed by Scorsese too. And I agree, it's a great movie.
I always felt like he should’ve won for the Aviator
Basketball Diaries is his best, imo
I would definitely love to see them react to shutter Island
Been waiting on this reaction. The ending still blows my mind (no pun intended). One of the most shocking endings I’ve ever seen.
Bagpipes were also used by the Irish, and Boston having a strong Irish heritage, bagpipes would be natural
Scorsese at his finest! Please watch Taxi Driver and Bringing Out The Dead. 2 of my absolute favorites from the filmmaker.