Tho you're portraying the Tahitian culture... this way of drumming especially use of the tokere (wooden gong) combined with the pa'u-mango (bongo), and the pau (base drum) originates from the Cook Islands... Not Fiji. If u research the original Tahitian "to'ere" during the time of captain Cook it was a skin drum. Please gets your facts right because this is my culture you're messing with. And I'm a proud Cook Islander. As for your group. Awesome stuff ... keep it up
The to'ere is the last main drums and it's one of the most challenging to play and is one of the main sounds associated with Tahiti,MADE FROM TAHITIAN KOU-WOOD,ALL TREES NATIVE TO TAHITI.. THE FIJIANS CALLS IT THE "LALI" this drums was used to summon the villagers for precautions during tribal wars or village gatherings!! The Cook islands ura-pau comes no where to the Tahitian fa'arapu- it's no wonder the Tahitian dance is recognised throughout the world.. MA'RURU🤗
@@johnmetusela282 If you know but you dont know! Dont change the subject to dancing when we talking about drums and it's origins. Ancient Tahitian toere for your information was a skinned drum... but due to the influence of the rhythmic and exciting Cook Islands drums the Tahitians adopted the Cook Islands wooden Tokere/Pate/Koriro to replace their skined to'ere. This style of orchestrated drums comes from the Cook Islands as it is part of our traditional culture and history. All of East Polynesia had skinned type instruments including Tahiti. The wooden instruments originated from Western part of Polynesia and so in the Cook Islands where East meets West we have a culmination of both skinned instruments and wooden drums. As a result this is what you get. Although Tahiti claims these instruments as theirs ... traditionally it's not. So once again... if you don't know, get your facts right. I don't appreciate people abusing my culture this way and the significant taking credit for what is not yours. Our ancestor from Nukuhiva and Raiatea brought the skinned drums. Our ancestor Karika who came from Samoa is said to have brought the wooden instruments. Thus we say "Ka rutu! Ka Pate! Ka tuki!"
@@johnmetusela282 the term To'ere is actually derived from the Aitutaki term, Tokere, and was adopted and pronounced To'ere according to the Tahitian dialect. The older Tahitians know that the drumming style and orchestration as has been demonstrated by tahitians for decades now originated from the Cook Islands.... alot of the main beats tahitians play across the board are actually beats that originated from the Cook Islands...specifically Aitutaki, where the men were renowned among Cook Islanders as being some of the best drummers in the Cooks. It is fact that the wooden slit gong did not originate from the Cook Islands because the instrument itself is as ancient and can be found throughout alot of indigenous groups including Africans and indo-asians... but the style of drumming, composition, orchestration and traditional rythms that are played by Tahitians did in fact orginate from the Cook Islands... and Tahitians adopted it and ran with it. Traditionally thier drums were the Pahu rima..or skin drums played with hands. Ask the older generation of Tahitians who have an interest in the culture and they will tell you how much the Cook Islands have influenced present day Tahitian drumming. Tahitians have tweaked it some to create a sense of distiction since they still only play with one stick (which is how the Cook Islanders used to do it in the old days...which is probably why Tahitians have continued in that way...), and they generally discontinued the use of the Ka'ara or Tikita'a and instead use the Pa'umango or Faatete for this purpose. I praise Tahitians for adopting the drumming style of the Cooks... it's an honour to the Cook Islands really..... but I loathe that many Tahitians have not been taught and therefore dont acknowledge the heavy influence of the Cooks on thier drumming culture... instead Fiji got the honour of being mentioned in this clip. History is only useful when it is accurate... and as a Cook Islander who praises Tahitians for taking interest in a part our culture and adopting it and thus bringing honour to my people and culture... it would be praiseworthy for Tahitians and all others who have an interest in thier drumming to accurately acknowledge the Cooks influence on thier drumming style presently... Meitaki.
@@johnmetusela282 Go back to Tahitian history history and you give me the name of the ancestors who brought this so-called "to'ere" and where did he/she come from. The oldest wooden Gong was found on the Island of Mangaia and was shaped like a man. This sacred drum was called a Ka'ara or Kahara and it has its story and meaning to Our people. Most islands in the Cook Islands can identify the name of the drum and which ancestor created it. All of which have stories which link to the house of entertainment as well as to the Gods. In particular God Rongo (or Lono in Hawaii). If u say this is a Tahitian instrument which I know for a fact is NOT then please give me the historical legends and evidence to back up your claims. ... Kia Manuia
We still refer to the bass drum as the pahu. "Pahu" in Hawaii. "Pa'u" in the Cook Islands. "Pahu" in Tahiti. "Pahu Tupa'e Rima" in Tahiti. Old habits die hard but that's my generation. I've noticed that the Cook Island drumming sticks have gotten longer similar to the Tahitian toere sticks. Interesting. I've noticed especially with the Cook Island women's dancing that there are motions very similar to modern tahitian dancing. That was inevitable. I'm Hawaiian & we took the Portuguese braguinha & transformed it into the modern-day ukulele. Now you see this instrument throughout all of Polynesia which includes Tahiti & the Cook Islands. We share this freely because we are the same people. The drumming should be shared with anyone who's interested. During my 50 years of drumming & teaching I've learned to love both cultures because they have so much to offer. However, I'm beginning to miss the days when you could hear the lead pehe in the drumming. Our group started playing orooro back in the early 90s but got bored because there's more to it then just that. Can you remember what people were playing in the early 90s? The Cook Island guys have remained consistent. Orooro is like a drug. I know because I've been there. Don't forget your roots. You have a good group. Leave a number... we'll chat.
Hey my braddah GREAT documentary. Very down to earth people I can feel the mana through this vid. Maururu roa!
Thanks Nico!
Tho you're portraying the Tahitian culture... this way of drumming especially use of the tokere (wooden gong) combined with the pa'u-mango (bongo), and the pau (base drum) originates from the Cook Islands... Not Fiji. If u research the original Tahitian "to'ere" during the time of captain Cook it was a skin drum. Please gets your facts right because this is my culture you're messing with. And I'm a proud Cook Islander. As for your group. Awesome stuff ... keep it up
The to'ere is the last main drums and it's one of the most challenging to play and is one of the main sounds associated with Tahiti,MADE FROM TAHITIAN KOU-WOOD,ALL TREES NATIVE TO TAHITI..
THE FIJIANS CALLS IT THE "LALI" this drums was used to summon the villagers for precautions during tribal wars or village gatherings!!
The Cook islands ura-pau comes no where to the Tahitian fa'arapu- it's no wonder the Tahitian dance is recognised throughout the world..
MA'RURU🤗
@@johnmetusela282 If you know but you dont know!
Dont change the subject to dancing when we talking about drums and it's origins. Ancient Tahitian toere for your information was a skinned drum... but due to the influence of the rhythmic and exciting Cook Islands drums the Tahitians adopted the Cook Islands wooden Tokere/Pate/Koriro to replace their skined to'ere. This style of orchestrated drums comes from the Cook Islands as it is part of our traditional culture and history. All of East Polynesia had skinned type instruments including Tahiti. The wooden instruments originated from Western part of Polynesia and so in the Cook Islands where East meets West we have a culmination of both skinned instruments and wooden drums. As a result this is what you get. Although Tahiti claims these instruments as theirs ... traditionally it's not. So once again... if you don't know, get your facts right. I don't appreciate people abusing my culture this way and the significant taking credit for what is not yours. Our ancestor from Nukuhiva and Raiatea brought the skinned drums. Our ancestor Karika who came from Samoa is said to have brought the wooden instruments. Thus we say
"Ka rutu! Ka Pate! Ka tuki!"
@@johnmetusela282 the term To'ere is actually derived from the Aitutaki term, Tokere, and was adopted and pronounced To'ere according to the Tahitian dialect. The older Tahitians know that the drumming style and orchestration as has been demonstrated by tahitians for decades now originated from the Cook Islands.... alot of the main beats tahitians play across the board are actually beats that originated from the Cook Islands...specifically Aitutaki, where the men were renowned among Cook Islanders as being some of the best drummers in the Cooks. It is fact that the wooden slit gong did not originate from the Cook Islands because the instrument itself is as ancient and can be found throughout alot of indigenous groups including Africans and indo-asians... but the style of drumming, composition, orchestration and traditional rythms that are played by Tahitians did in fact orginate from the Cook Islands... and Tahitians adopted it and ran with it. Traditionally thier drums were the Pahu rima..or skin drums played with hands. Ask the older generation of Tahitians who have an interest in the culture and they will tell you how much the Cook Islands have influenced present day Tahitian drumming. Tahitians have tweaked it some to create a sense of distiction since they still only play with one stick (which is how the Cook Islanders used to do it in the old days...which is probably why Tahitians have continued in that way...), and they generally discontinued the use of the Ka'ara or Tikita'a and instead use the Pa'umango or Faatete for this purpose. I praise Tahitians for adopting the drumming style of the Cooks... it's an honour to the Cook Islands really..... but I loathe that many Tahitians have not been taught and therefore dont acknowledge the heavy influence of the Cooks on thier drumming culture... instead Fiji got the honour of being mentioned in this clip. History is only useful when it is accurate... and as a Cook Islander who praises Tahitians for taking interest in a part our culture and adopting it and thus bringing honour to my people and culture... it would be praiseworthy for Tahitians and all others who have an interest in thier drumming to accurately acknowledge the Cooks influence on thier drumming style presently... Meitaki.
@@johnmetusela282 Go back to Tahitian history history and you give me the name of the ancestors who brought this so-called "to'ere" and where did he/she come from. The oldest wooden Gong was found on the Island of Mangaia and was shaped like a man. This sacred drum was called a Ka'ara or Kahara and it has its story and meaning to Our people. Most islands in the Cook Islands can identify the name of the drum and which ancestor created it. All of which have stories which link to the house of entertainment as well as to the Gods. In particular God Rongo (or Lono in Hawaii). If u say this is a Tahitian instrument which I know for a fact is NOT then please give me the historical legends and evidence to back up your claims. ... Kia Manuia
We still refer to the bass drum as the pahu. "Pahu" in Hawaii. "Pa'u" in the Cook Islands. "Pahu" in Tahiti. "Pahu Tupa'e Rima" in Tahiti. Old habits die hard but that's my generation. I've noticed that the Cook Island drumming sticks have gotten longer similar to the Tahitian toere sticks. Interesting. I've noticed especially with the Cook Island women's dancing that there are motions very similar to modern tahitian dancing. That was inevitable. I'm Hawaiian & we took the Portuguese braguinha & transformed it into the modern-day ukulele. Now you see this instrument throughout all of Polynesia which includes Tahiti & the Cook Islands. We share this freely because we are the same people. The drumming should be shared with anyone who's interested. During my 50 years of drumming & teaching I've learned to love both cultures because they have so much to offer. However, I'm beginning to miss the days when you could hear the lead pehe in the drumming. Our group started playing orooro back in the early 90s but got bored because there's more to it then just that. Can you remember what people were playing in the early 90s? The Cook Island guys have remained consistent. Orooro is like a drug. I know because I've been there. Don't forget your roots. You have a good group. Leave a number... we'll chat.
Excellente!
where are you originally come from ?..no disrecpect but just wondering ?... you look chinese and mixed ? great video btw with encouragements