Awesome project. Thank you so much for conducting this history record project. We tibetan people are really greateful to the staffs who are working hard on this project🙏🙏🙏
Your Holiness you are such a great loving kindness master in this world so please live healthy long life for our enlighten guide thank you so much. 🙏🙏🙏
🙏🙏🙏 with absolute supplications to His Holiness Kyabgon Sakya Gongma Trichen Dorje Chang ... May you live long for the benefit of all sentient beings 🙏🙏😂
Oral History Project is great but you should take some extra care in employing interpreters. Some of them are neither proficient in Tibetan nor in English. Some of them use very condescending tone to elderly people.
1. Was Tibet an independent country before 1912? Tibet was an independent country before 1246. From 1373 to 1578, Tibet rulers paid tribute to Chinese Ming dynasty government many times. In 1642, Dalai Lama invited a Mongol tribe’s troops to come into Tibet to fight other opposite Tibetan groups. Tibet was then controlled by this Mongol tribe. This Mongol tribe voluntarily submitted to the Chinese Qing dynasty in 1653 for Chinese support to defend against west Mongols. In 1705, Chinese emperor abolished the 6th Dalai Lama for his violation of Buddhist obligation, and ordered him to be arrested and sent to Beijing for punishment. He died on the way. Since 18th century, Dalai Lama had kneed down towards Chinese emperor’s picture many times during ceremonies. China posted a garrison in Lhasa from 1751. Tibet respected Chinese government’s sovereignty, which is typically shown in the selection of the 10th Dalai Lama in 1822. Britain and Russia recognized Tibet as a part of China in 1906. China ruled Tibet directly from 1910 to 1911. Since Manchu are Chinese citizens and support China’s claim on Tibet, Chinese regarded China after Qing as a legal successor of Qing dynasty. (In fact, Western countries made sure China became the successor of Qing dynasty, so that China could continue to pay the huge ransom owed by Qing to the West countries after it was defeated in 1900.) 2. Was Tibet an independent country between 1912 and 1950? After the collapse of China’s Qing dynasty in 1912, China witnessed a lot of civil wars and warlordism until 1949, but did not denounce its claim on Tibet. Tibet never declared independence towards China or other countries during this period. (The 13th Dalai Lama himself denied (to the British) that he had ever authorized the Russian subject--Agvan Dorjiev, to sign a treaty with Mongolians on behalf of Tibet. So, that 1913 treaty is not valid.) USA officially recognized Tibet as a part of China in 1943, way before communist China existed. No country in the world recognizes Tibet as an independent country, or officially regard Tibet as not a part of china, or officially regard Tibet as occupied by China.
You have mouse issues in your house, so you call the mouse catcher. After catching the mouse, the mouse catcher says more mouse might come in future, so I will stay in your house for some time. He stays for more than 100 years, and later says this house belongs to me as I have stayed more than 100 years, so do you give up your house to him?
And by China, do you mean the CCP or the National party(go ming tang)...the tibetans allowed national party to station in Tibet not the CCP. So, does it means CCP has nothing to do in china and it should be Taiwan ruling Tibet?
3. Did Tibet has opportunity to defeat Chinese invasion in 1950? Tibet is huge and has very high altitude and very thin air which is difficult for Chinese to breathe, let alone climb mountains. The total length of road which a 4-wheel vehicle can drive in whole Tibet was only 4 kilometers in 1950. Chinese has to across many high mountains at very high altitude for 2000 kilometers to get to Lhasa. There was little sources of food or even water. In short, Tibet was a perfect place to wage guerilla war on Chinese troops, and that is exactly what CIA recommended to Tibetans. In 1950, Tibet had about 100,000 bolt rifles and many Tibetans were hunters and can shoot very accurately over long distance. If Tibetans used guerilla war to attack Chinese supply line, Chinese troops will starve to death and have not way to advance across 2000 kilometers of mountains (without road) into central Tibet. Instead, Tibetans choose to sign the peace liberation treaty after only two hundred Tibetan soldiers got killed in the Chamdo battle in 1950. In short, Tibetans had good chance to defeat Chinese in 1950 if they really want. But it is impossible in 1959 since China had built 3 roads (totally >4000 kilometers) and bridges into Tibet since 1950. 4. Why Tibetans rebelled in 1959? Before 1956, most Tibetans were serfs, and most lands were owned by noblemen and monasteries. The part of Tibet (central) ruled by Dalai Lama enjoyed very high autonomy within China from 1950-1959. China launched land reforms in the Chinese directly ruled (east) Tibetan areas in 1956, taking land from noblemen and monasteries and distributing them to the serfs. Rebellion led by noblemen and monasteries broke out in east Tibet in 1956, with independence as the slogan to get support from serfs, and spread to Lhasa in 1959, encouraged and supported by the CIA. 5. Does China repress Tibetans and practice cultural genocide? No. Besides, there is a long covered fact (by all parts involved) about China and communism. Chinese communism was created with the help of Soviet Union, and controlled by Stalin. After the Second World War, Soviet Union supplied Chinese communist troops with captured Japanese weapons including 2700 artilleries, and produced ammunitions and weapons for communists in Russia-occupied China’s north-east. USA organized an international arms embargo to the troops of Chinese anti-communist government. Chinese nationalist government troops were poorly equipped with little artilleries and ammunition. Communism caused at least 60million Chinese death. The truth is: communism was forced upon to Chinese by Soviet union with the help of U.S. So, China should not be blamed for the destruction of Tibetan culture in Cultural revolution in Tibet.
Do you have opportunity to fight someone with gun and bombs? For one Tibetan, they have 10 army with weapons. Do you know the population of Tibet vs china? Tibet at that time was 6 million and that would be same as one city of China....use your brain not mouth.
China should not be blamed...the batons, weapons and guns that killed or totoured monks, nuns and local Tibetan should be blamed? Is that your thinking...are you a real Chinese or CCP bots? Did you forget tinamman square incident, the CCP killing their own students? When you can kill your own bloods, why would you hesitate to kill others..
Prove me that china doesn't repress tibetans....you carry a photo of his holiness the dalai lama on your head and roam near potala palace for one hour....you will know what millions tibetans feel like....not being able to follow or pray on their own...
Long live ur Holiness ❤️🙏🙏
Why still people dislike such a nice wonderful history sharing with us. I would like to thanks from my deep heart to this channel.
Deepest respect to HH and thanks for the wonderful advice to achieve lasting happiness.
💟🌹Thank you for the wonderful teachings I have received from several Tibetan Lamas. I have been blessed ! 💗💚
What a beautiful human being. Thanks for posting
My deepest respect to your Holiness , may you live long and healthy. Thank you for your great teachings of compassion .
His Holiness u have always blessed me through your compassion may you live forever ❤🙏❤🙏❤🙏❤🙏❤🙏💐
om mani padme hung❣️🙏
Awesome project. Thank you so much for conducting this history record project. We tibetan people are really greateful to the staffs who are working hard on this project🙏🙏🙏
Your Holiness you are such a great loving kindness master in this world so please live healthy long life for our enlighten guide thank you so much. 🙏🙏🙏
Great!
Thank you a great blessing HH is the jewel in the crown of the buddhist tradition🙏🏻🌹🌺
🙏🙏🙏 Kyapsuchey 🌹🌼💐☘🌺🏵🌻
Kyap su chi 🙏🙏🙏 my root guru
May you live long Your Holiness
❤long live HH Sakya gongma Rinpoche lak!🎉
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🙏🙏🙏 with absolute supplications to His Holiness Kyabgon Sakya Gongma Trichen Dorje Chang ... May you live long for the benefit of all sentient beings 🙏🙏😂
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Oral History Project is great but you should take some extra care in employing interpreters. Some of them are neither proficient in Tibetan nor in English. Some of them use very condescending tone to elderly people.
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1. Was Tibet an independent country before 1912?
Tibet was an independent country before 1246. From 1373 to 1578, Tibet rulers paid tribute to Chinese Ming dynasty government many times. In 1642, Dalai Lama invited a Mongol tribe’s troops to come into Tibet to fight other opposite Tibetan groups. Tibet was then controlled by this Mongol tribe. This Mongol tribe voluntarily submitted to the Chinese Qing dynasty in 1653 for Chinese support to defend against west Mongols. In 1705, Chinese emperor abolished the 6th Dalai Lama for his violation of Buddhist obligation, and ordered him to be arrested and sent to Beijing for punishment. He died on the way.
Since 18th century, Dalai Lama had kneed down towards Chinese emperor’s picture many times during ceremonies. China posted a garrison in Lhasa from 1751. Tibet respected Chinese government’s sovereignty, which is typically shown in the selection of the 10th Dalai Lama in 1822. Britain and Russia recognized Tibet as a part of China in 1906. China ruled Tibet directly from 1910 to 1911. Since Manchu are Chinese citizens and support China’s claim on Tibet, Chinese regarded China after Qing as a legal successor of Qing dynasty. (In fact, Western countries made sure China became the successor of Qing dynasty, so that China could continue to pay the huge ransom owed by Qing to the West countries after it was defeated in 1900.)
2. Was Tibet an independent country between 1912 and 1950?
After the collapse of China’s Qing dynasty in 1912, China witnessed a lot of civil wars and warlordism until 1949, but did not denounce its claim on Tibet. Tibet never declared independence towards China or other countries during this period. (The 13th Dalai Lama himself denied (to the British) that he had ever authorized the Russian subject--Agvan Dorjiev, to sign a treaty with Mongolians on behalf of Tibet. So, that 1913 treaty is not valid.) USA officially recognized Tibet as a part of China in 1943, way before communist China existed.
No country in the world recognizes Tibet as an independent country, or officially regard Tibet as not a part of china, or officially regard Tibet as occupied by China.
You have mouse issues in your house, so you call the mouse catcher. After catching the mouse, the mouse catcher says more mouse might come in future, so I will stay in your house for some time. He stays for more than 100 years, and later says this house belongs to me as I have stayed more than 100 years, so do you give up your house to him?
If you are so eager to back in time, why don't you go back to 500bc and find out if China was ruling Tibet or Tibet was ruling china.
And by China, do you mean the CCP or the National party(go ming tang)...the tibetans allowed national party to station in Tibet not the CCP. So, does it means CCP has nothing to do in china and it should be Taiwan ruling Tibet?
Long live rinpoche la
khap shu che lama la..
3. Did Tibet has opportunity to defeat Chinese invasion in 1950?
Tibet is huge and has very high altitude and very thin air which is difficult for Chinese to breathe, let alone climb mountains. The total length of road which a 4-wheel vehicle can drive in whole Tibet was only 4 kilometers in 1950. Chinese has to across many high mountains at very high altitude for 2000 kilometers to get to Lhasa. There was little sources of food or even water. In short, Tibet was a perfect place to wage guerilla war on Chinese troops, and that is exactly what CIA recommended to Tibetans. In 1950, Tibet had about 100,000 bolt rifles and many Tibetans were hunters and can shoot very accurately over long distance. If Tibetans used guerilla war to attack Chinese supply line, Chinese troops will starve to death and have not way to advance across 2000 kilometers of mountains (without road) into central Tibet. Instead, Tibetans choose to sign the peace liberation treaty after only two hundred Tibetan soldiers got killed in the Chamdo battle in 1950. In short, Tibetans had good chance to defeat Chinese in 1950 if they really want. But it is impossible in 1959 since China had built 3 roads (totally >4000 kilometers) and bridges into Tibet since 1950.
4. Why Tibetans rebelled in 1959?
Before 1956, most Tibetans were serfs, and most lands were owned by noblemen and monasteries. The part of Tibet (central) ruled by Dalai Lama enjoyed very high autonomy within China from 1950-1959. China launched land reforms in the Chinese directly ruled (east) Tibetan areas in 1956, taking land from noblemen and monasteries and distributing them to the serfs. Rebellion led by noblemen and monasteries broke out in east Tibet in 1956, with independence as the slogan to get support from serfs, and spread to Lhasa in 1959, encouraged and supported by the CIA.
5. Does China repress Tibetans and practice cultural genocide?
No. Besides, there is a long covered fact (by all parts involved) about China and communism. Chinese communism was created with the help of Soviet Union, and controlled by Stalin. After the Second World War, Soviet Union supplied Chinese communist troops with captured Japanese weapons including 2700 artilleries, and produced ammunitions and weapons for communists in Russia-occupied China’s north-east. USA organized an international arms embargo to the troops of Chinese anti-communist government. Chinese nationalist government troops were poorly equipped with little artilleries and ammunition. Communism caused at least 60million Chinese death. The truth is: communism was forced upon to Chinese by Soviet union with the help of U.S. So, China should not be blamed for the destruction of Tibetan culture in Cultural revolution in Tibet.
Do you have opportunity to fight someone with gun and bombs? For one Tibetan, they have 10 army with weapons. Do you know the population of Tibet vs china? Tibet at that time was 6 million and that would be same as one city of China....use your brain not mouth.
China should not be blamed...the batons, weapons and guns that killed or totoured monks, nuns and local Tibetan should be blamed? Is that your thinking...are you a real Chinese or CCP bots? Did you forget tinamman square incident, the CCP killing their own students? When you can kill your own bloods, why would you hesitate to kill others..
Prove me that china doesn't repress tibetans....you carry a photo of his holiness the dalai lama on your head and roam near potala palace for one hour....you will know what millions tibetans feel like....not being able to follow or pray on their own...
ས་སྐྱ་༸གོང་མ་མཆོག་ལ་སྐྱབས་སུ་མཆི།
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