The BIGGEST AWD FAILS in the history of "4x4 tests on rollers" channel -
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00:08 - 2003 Lexus RX-300 AWD
02:15 - 2005 Jaguar X-Type 3.0 V6 AWD
03:46 - 2008 Alfa Romeo 159 Q4 2.4 JTDm
06:58 - 2013 Honda CR-V 2.0 Real Time AWD
07:44 - 2014 Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV S-AWC
10:30 - 2015 Lexus RX-350 AWD
11:46 - 2016 Lexus RX-200t AWD
13:25 - 2016 Honda CR-V Real Time AWD
13:51 - 2017 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid AWD-i
15:38 - 2019 Lexus RX-450h AWD-i
17:00 - 2022 Toyota Yaris Cross AWD-i
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thanks, please post most capable cars 4x4 tests on rollers🙂
In the future 🙂
Its the Jeep brand
@@road-channelDid u say the fiat😂
What happens when AWD systems are calibrated by complete morons. Note how they aren't even trying despite of having all the necessary hardware to at least send some power to the non spinning wheels.
Thank you for your tests! These are real helpful for the buyers! Please continue in this way! It can be also interesting in 2wd and new ibrid cars
What is the reason these cars are setup this way?
I can't believe Toyota etc are fools.
That's a good question.
Mój sx4 pierwszej generacji, przy tych samochodach z pseudo AWD to rasowa terenówka😂
Ach ta elektronika 😆 - sam jestem programista ale programów maszyn przemysłowych i też pisze na odpierdol 😅
The Lexus RX is a nice luxury crossover, but the AWD system was ALWAYS shit on it. If you wanted a capable Lexus off roader, get the GX instead.
truth
Did he ever test the gx470?
Seems like Toyota and Lexus struggle. Is there any way you can test the new Toyotas, like Corolla Cross or Rav 4 Plug in?
It's all up to volunteers. If we find new Toyotas, we'll test them.
😅 great 😂 the yaris cross is my favourite
Honda miała wpadkę, ale w kolejnej generacji wyciągnęli wnioski. Toyota, niby największy producent aut na swiecie, a dalej ich AWD leży i kwiczy. Dobrze, że Land Cruisera i Hiluxa nie robią w hybrydzie...😉
wydaję mi się że hybrydy Toyoty mają problemy (tam za napęd na tył bodajże odpowiada silnik elektryczny), a np taki GR Yaris dawał radę na rolkach
Zgadza się... problem dotyczy głównie hybryd, gdzie brakuje momentu na tylnej osi, ale nie tylko, bo był też Lexus 200t, czyli benzyna, gdzie połączenie pomiędzy osiami jest mechaniczne (najpewniej skopali tam oprogramowanie).
@@krys8870 200t nie ma problemu z przekazywaniem momentu na tył, tam kuleje kontrola trakcji. Co do hybryd - teoretycznie nawet najsłabszy Yaris Cross może mieć 500 Nm na tylnej osi, ale coś tego nie widać...
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers czyli albo tyle nie ma, albo software nie pozwala, a efekt jak widać...
@@krys8870 ale Rav4 hybryd 5gen wypadł nie aż tak źle jak te auta w tym filmie. Czyli to musi być kwestia software-u
Are these defective units or behave all of their kinds this way?
They are not defective, that's just how they work.
This is just how fake AWD systems are like, Honda's and Toyota's reactive awd systems are quite awful when it comes to actually doing anything. Tho with Toyota you still can get legitimate 4x4 system in Hilux or Landcruiser and early RAV4 models had decent awd system borrowed from rally Celicas. Moder ones are just a silly joke tho.
Gdyby nie patrzeć na video pierwszego lexusa tylko słuchać dźwięku to bym powiedział że ktoś rżnie drzewo piłą moja twoja. A tak poważnie to klapa straszna, może w nich płynu hamulcowego nie było w układzie 😜
ale to dobre! (to znaczy smutne)
tytul powinien brzmiec: tych aut nie kupujcie!
po czestochowsku: toyota (lexus) wtopa
...how is it possible that ALL the 4x4/AWD sys mounted on EVERY kind of car FAIL in your test and in every condition..??? Would you demonstrate that all of them are really uneseful...in particoulr : how is itossible that car like Alfa Romeo with a prevalent front axle traction are not able to move at akl with this front wheels on the ground and grip if rear axle have both wheels free to spin on " your rollers"...?? all this is suspected...
How did you came up with the idea that ALL systems fail? Just a few of hundreds cars tested did fail, you can see them in the video above. When it comes to Alfa - it uses center torsen differential, 40% front, 60% rear. If grip difference exceeds the TBR of torsen - that's what happens, only front or only rear is spinning. In such case, TC intervention is needed but in 159 it works only left/right, it doesn't work front/rear.
Awesome. I like Lexus but rx...
Myślałem ze Q50 znajdzie się w tym zestawieniu, a tutaj prawie same crossovery😅 czyżby koncerny samochodowe ludzi wprowadzali w błąd 😂
How is possible the torque screen not showing the arrows trasfering power to both front and rear wheels as the car starts moving? (when it starts it transfers instantly electric power to both front and rear axles. I just do not see it at the video as long i do not see the rear of the car showing whether the car is 2wd or awd-i). How do we know that the car is not 2wd? I am wondering...
Go to full tests of these cars and you will see rear wheels spinning in diagonal or lateral tests.
Ok, but why we don't see the rear wheels moving at all? Not even slightly?
@@giannisvamvakaris3970 Which car exactly do you mean?
Strange how CR-V III does it better than CR-V IV?
There was change of awd system and unfortunately newer one was worse...
I saw later on other videos.
if you want real AWD dont buy a toyota car
GR Yaris, GR Corolla, Land Cruiser.
2014/2015 outlander phev have a weird torque vectoring causing that *shit* test. If you try the my19 onwards it is way way better.
Shit test, all right... 2015 was already better: th-cam.com/video/swXwSQoToj4/w-d-xo.html
Suuuuper🤣
Don't see you testing any Acura RDX of any generation. I'd like to see a 2nd gen RDX since they dropped the SH-AWD for these.
It's all up to volunteers...
That's so weird, Outlander and Lexus RX hybrid have separate motors for rear axle, there is no explanation why they cannot move with front wheels on rollers...
Rav4 Hybrid and Yaris Cross Hybrid also have separate motors.
Right. So it's nothing but really bad traction control programming? All those cars do have mechanical power to move, it's just not applied.
@@vadimus2007Yeap, that must be programming. Other brands hybrids do not have such problems.
It's most likely because the electric motor on the rear axle doesn't have the benefit of a gearbox, only a single speed reduction gear. Different vehicles have different "gears" for their rear motors, performing better or worse in certain situations. In the case of the lexus' I would assume that they are more tuned for handling at speed than crawling off rollers.
@@TheKeyess So basically they lack torque to move vehicle without help of front axle, especially with front wheels caught in small recession between the rollers. I guess it's a bit more reasonable explanation than "they are idiots and could not program it right"!
Czy masz w planie przetestować corolle cross hybrid na rolkach? Są już z nią testy na yt, ale brak na rolkach...
Jeśli znajdzie się ochotnik...
The results of the Alfa 159 is very strange.
Why?
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers ...why?? as i already said in a previous answer : it's very strange that cars with front axle prevalent traction are not able to go fwd with one or both rear axle wheels free to spin...it generates suspect of many cars mechanic and/or electronic manipulation before this " tests" are made...
@@YT-LRHS As I already explained - 159 uses center torsen differential, 40% front, 60% rear. If grip difference exceeds the TBR of torsen - that's what happens, only front or only rear is spinning. In such case, TC intervention is needed but in 159 it works only left/right, it doesn't work front/rear.
ECT SNOW has nothing to do in these tests, it only starts shifting in 2nd gear
Correct but we tried that cause one of viewers was pushing on that, you can find the discussion under this video: th-cam.com/video/NkXV-Pnsvhs/w-d-xo.html
I was expecting more Toyota's and Honda's, but I guess Japanese cars still topped.
Lexus is TOyota tho. Most Toyotas and all Hondas have quite awful 'fake' awd systems. If you really need a decent awd then 4x4 toyota like Hilux or Land Cruiser(or old Rav4 from first 2 generations) is better. Then Suzuki, and best of all would be Subaru of course. Newer subarus(post 2010) dont sufffer with economy while keeping permanent awd, so you get all the best things about awd, including massive handling benefits since front tyres are not forced to do all the work.
@@Kacpa2 Honda has some great awd systems called SH-AWD.
I just love to watch centre diffs working🙂
Only three of these cars have center diff 🙂
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Yeah I know. Love them. Especially 159s.
Żadnego niemieckiego auta i prawie same Japończyki 😂 To dużo mówi.
Przypominam, że Subaru, Suzuki, Mitsubishi czy Nissan też są japońskie. Land Cruiser, GX także.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers wiem, i to jest najciekawsze że do niektórych aut wkładają świetne napędy a do reszty jakiś żart
@@marcingruba7391 Dokładnie, jedna marka potrafi mieć zarówno świetny, jak i bardzo kiepski napęd.
Seems that Japanese cars AWD sucks the most.
Nope. Subaru, Suzuki, Nissan. Mitsubishi Pajero, Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution, Mitsubishi Outlander GT, Toyota GR Yaris, Toyota GR Corolla, Toyota Celica, Hondas with SH-AWD.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers I mean they are not suitable for off-road driving
@@suyuanxie8022 Pajero, Land Cruiser, Patrol, Jimny, Vitara.
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Also hilux is ok
Just bought a 2007 RX350, it certainly does better in snow than my GS400 RWD.
open differentials and bad ESP/ABS programming always suck , no matter 4x4, rwd, fwd
First
IF wheelspin THEN increase braking power..
Try that highly advanced line of code. Thank me later.
Majority of these cars do not need braking but torque increase. And some of those actually use that line of code...
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers They first and foremost need more braking..... since the wheels on the rollers are spinning wildly... No reason to increase torque before that problem is handled... Else the wheels would just spin even faster for no reason.
@@martinsvensson6884 Nope. Outlander PHEV, RAV4 Hybrid, RX 450h, Yaris Cross, CR-V - they don't need any braking but more torque on one of the axles.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers No. If you take a look at your own video to begin with.... you can see that the wheels are spinning widly..... That means that increasing engine speed will change NOTHING. UNTIL you press the brakes harder. No more torque will go to the other pair of wheels by opening the throttle more. UNTIL the brakes are pushed harder.
Thats how natural laws in physics work... You can never escape them.
@@martinsvensson6884 Watch again the cars I mentioned, they are not able to pass the most basic test - with one axle on rollers. They are missing the torque on the second axle. I'm not talking about increasing engine torque but about torque being applied to axle with grip.
It is just crossovers, many of them have monodrive. in fact, it would be enough for them that they can move from one roller
Any change of testing Phaeton 4motion?
All up to volunteers...
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers I could, but I don't have rollers :/