Episodes 4-5 are some of my favorite episodes this season. The friendship between Fred and Spike is so sweet. They both recognized just how special each other are immediately. I love a Lorne central episode too. The late Andy Hallett was just wonderful as Lorne.
I always found The Tale of Numero Cinco oddly moving and deeply significant if you see Cinco as an image of Angel (note how Angel leaps into his place with the other brothers at the climax). Angel, too, has joined Wolfram & Hart thinking he could do good, but now walks the halls feeling purposeless. At the end his brothers return for Cinco, proving he is worthy ("He died a hero"). The question, then, is if Angel now thinks himself worthy. His looking up the shanshu prophecy is a sign that he may have begun to think so again. I even like the goofy flashback, a tribute to the goofy old Mexican wrestler movies of the 1950's and 60's ("The devil has built a robot!"). And the appearance of a young Holland Manners is a clever callback.
Fun Fact: Simon Templeman(Mathias) is also known for playing as Death in the series Charmed and also the vampire Kain in the videogame series Legacy of Kain.
A return to form here with a brilliant atmospheric Spikecentric episode, with Fred working tirelessly to bring back Spike back to a corporeal state. Some great hell like imagery used here with Spike being plagued by horror like characters tormenting him on what seems like his journey to hell. Pavayne is of course the reason for all this chaos, and some brilliant scenes between him and Spike. Comedy relief with Angel and Spike sitting on the sofa trading insults, Angel about Spikes's poetry, and Spike about Angel liking Barry Manilow. A satisfying ending with Angel and Eve in the depths of W&H with Pavayne now completely detained. Angel says welcome to hell, and gives him the tiniest of windows to add to his enduring torture, reminiscent of many an X-Files ending. All in all a really good episode with some great scenes.
5:25 - "Chico & the Man" This was a TV show. Chico was played by Freddie Prinze Sr - father to Sarah Michelle Gellar's hubby, though he passed away long before they married.
As far as the “Something Blue“ moment around the 24 minute mark, the same thing occurred to me while watching “The Force Awakens,“ when I realised that it’s mostly a discount version of the fully formed plot in the first Star Wars movie. That said, this recycling job was more clever and original than any JJ Abrahams sequel.
You'd think if ever there was an episode made for Lorne this was it. He is the ultimate Party Guy, but as we can see he is going through a few issues of his own. Lorne of course has been working around the clock and not sleeping, always a recipe for disaster. As we know as well from The Buffyverse Halloween never really goes well. One could say this is a bit of a rehash of Something Blue in BTVS S4, where Willow says things and they literally happen. There is more trouble in store as Lorne's sleep deprivation causes his empathetic subconscious to manifest itself as a a massive demon like The Incredible Hulk. Very funny when Angel go to visit Archduke Sebassis to try and get him to come to the party. Sebassis of course, is as evil as they come, but has some comedy moments here especially when catching Angel and Eve shagging. Well Lorne did say 'get a room'. The creepy Knox has always been a bit 'Sus' from the start now him and Fred are going for a drink. When Angel says to Eve we have to talk she just brushes it off saying 'it's not the first time I had sex under a mystical influence'. All in all a really good fun entertaining episode.
I love how they improved the core characters this season, although it has annoyed me that none of them seem to be working on helping Cordelia, and have instead somehow forgotten her like they have Connor.
Actually, why would a soul go to hell because of the sins of the vampire? Those sins were committed by the demon inside and not by the original soul. In the early seasons of Buffy that was established; but in the Angel universe that went out of the window.....
It's also never confirmed that there's any sort of karma or morality based element to Buffyverse afterlife. The only people ever confirmed to go to heaven or hell got there by jumping into or being sucked through portals. Darla, the only character to be fully resurrected after dying with no portal shenanigans involved, remembers "nothing" after death, not hell. And a big theme in this universe is that life is not fair. Why would the afterlife be fair when the total lack of any kind of innate cosmic justice is such a big theme in both shows?
I've thought that was strange myself. Heck, I was wondering where the human soul went; the person died, so it seems like their soul would go to heaven or hell based on their actions as a human, and it wouldn't change because of what other people did with that person's corpse.
@@Talisguy Well, in season 6 of Buffy she mentioned that after death she went to some kind of heaven-dimension.... That part is a bit vague: She supposedly could be brought back because she died a mystical death (Even though her body had fallen to it's death ....? It was definitely a carnal thing because her blood closed the portal. 🤔)
As we learned in Doppelgangland, vampires retain the essential personality of the person who is turned, which is almost an echo of the soul. The level of similarity is dependent on the extent to which the demon side is dominant over the hu,an echo, which is why Angelus went from a gregarious Irish lad to Hannibal Lecter, whereas Spike retained a lot of “William the Bloody Awful Poet.” Angelus would have also never gotten any emotional attachments (e.g. Dawn & Joyce). Either way, when they get their soul back, there’s an argument to be made that some of what they did was sone by them, in some capacity. Either way, they remember it all.
03:53 - 04:01 He stopped caring only about himself *long before that!* 😡 07:04 - 07:22 I mean..DUH!🤪Although...it seems pretty unfair.Buffy went to Heaven after sacrificing herself to stop Glory,why is it different for Spike?Shouldn't _he_ have gone in Heaven too?🤔 15:33 - 15:42 Oh,maybe that's the explanation... 22:18 Hodgins?!?😱 #Bones
5x04 Had a warning of nudity attatched to it upon airing. 5x05 AtS's first Halloween episode. 5x06 My least favorite of the entire Buffyverse (including the comics). I felt like they could have delved deep into this one and all that happened was a wrestlers episode. I did enjoy Spike twisting what #5 did to Angel when explaining it to everyone, though.
@SamuelFeutchine But that's when Buffy and Joyce were about, Marti talk about not wanting to suggest anything Darling Clementine as Dawn was growing up fast
Episodes 4-5 are some of my favorite episodes this season. The friendship between Fred and Spike is so sweet. They both recognized just how special each other are immediately. I love a Lorne central episode too. The late Andy Hallett was just wonderful as Lorne.
Finally some is nice and friendly with Spike. Must be smth new for him
I always found The Tale of Numero Cinco oddly moving and deeply significant if you see Cinco as an image of Angel (note how Angel leaps into his place with the other brothers at the climax). Angel, too, has joined Wolfram & Hart thinking he could do good, but now walks the halls feeling purposeless. At the end his brothers return for Cinco, proving he is worthy ("He died a hero"). The question, then, is if Angel now thinks himself worthy. His looking up the shanshu prophecy is a sign that he may have begun to think so again.
I even like the goofy flashback, a tribute to the goofy old Mexican wrestler movies of the 1950's and 60's ("The devil has built a robot!"). And the appearance of a young Holland Manners is a clever callback.
Fun Fact: Simon Templeman(Mathias) is also known for playing as Death in the series Charmed and also the vampire Kain in the videogame series Legacy of Kain.
A return to form here with a brilliant atmospheric Spikecentric episode, with Fred working tirelessly to bring back Spike back to a corporeal state. Some great hell like imagery used here with Spike being plagued by horror like characters tormenting him on what seems like his journey to hell. Pavayne is of course the reason for all this chaos, and some brilliant scenes between him and Spike. Comedy relief with Angel and Spike sitting on the sofa trading insults, Angel about Spikes's poetry, and Spike about Angel liking Barry Manilow. A satisfying ending with Angel and Eve in the depths of W&H with Pavayne now completely detained. Angel says welcome to hell, and gives him the tiniest of windows to add to his enduring torture, reminiscent of many an X-Files ending. All in all a really good episode with some great scenes.
5:25 - "Chico & the Man"
This was a TV show. Chico was played by Freddie Prinze Sr - father to Sarah Michelle Gellar's hubby, though he passed away long before they married.
Fun Fact 2: The guy that recruited Numero Cinco was a young Holland Manners.
As far as the “Something Blue“ moment around the 24 minute mark, the same thing occurred to me while watching “The Force Awakens,“ when I realised that it’s mostly a discount version of the fully formed plot in the first Star Wars movie. That said, this recycling job was more clever and original than any JJ Abrahams sequel.
You'd think if ever there was an episode made for Lorne this was it. He is the ultimate Party Guy, but as we can see he is going through a few issues of his own. Lorne of course has been working around the clock and not sleeping, always a recipe for disaster. As we know as well from The Buffyverse Halloween never really goes well. One could say this is a bit of a rehash of Something Blue in BTVS S4, where Willow says things and they literally happen. There is more trouble in store as Lorne's sleep deprivation causes his empathetic subconscious to manifest itself as a a massive demon like The Incredible Hulk. Very funny when Angel go to visit Archduke Sebassis to try and get him to come to the party. Sebassis of course, is as evil as they come, but has some comedy moments here especially when catching Angel and Eve shagging. Well Lorne did say 'get a room'. The creepy Knox has always been a bit 'Sus' from the start now him and Fred are going for a drink. When Angel says to Eve we have to talk she just brushes it off saying 'it's not the first time I had sex under a mystical influence'. All in all a really good fun entertaining episode.
I love how they improved the core characters this season, although it has annoyed me that none of them seem to be working on helping Cordelia, and have instead somehow forgotten her like they have Connor.
Actually, why would a soul go to hell because of the sins of the vampire? Those sins were committed by the demon inside and not by the original soul. In the early seasons of Buffy that was established; but in the Angel universe that went out of the window.....
It's also never confirmed that there's any sort of karma or morality based element to Buffyverse afterlife. The only people ever confirmed to go to heaven or hell got there by jumping into or being sucked through portals. Darla, the only character to be fully resurrected after dying with no portal shenanigans involved, remembers "nothing" after death, not hell. And a big theme in this universe is that life is not fair. Why would the afterlife be fair when the total lack of any kind of innate cosmic justice is such a big theme in both shows?
I've thought that was strange myself. Heck, I was wondering where the human soul went; the person died, so it seems like their soul would go to heaven or hell based on their actions as a human, and it wouldn't change because of what other people did with that person's corpse.
@@Talisguy Well, in season 6 of Buffy she mentioned that after death she went to some kind of heaven-dimension....
That part is a bit vague: She supposedly could be brought back because she died a mystical death (Even though her body had fallen to it's death ....? It was definitely a carnal thing because her blood closed the portal. 🤔)
@@VerMaarte She died by jumping into a mystical portal. It was after that that her body hit the ground.
As we learned in Doppelgangland, vampires retain the essential personality of the person who is turned, which is almost an echo of the soul. The level of similarity is dependent on the extent to which the demon side is dominant over the hu,an echo, which is why Angelus went from a gregarious Irish lad to Hannibal Lecter, whereas Spike retained a lot of “William the Bloody Awful Poet.” Angelus would have also never gotten any emotional attachments (e.g. Dawn & Joyce). Either way, when they get their soul back, there’s an argument to be made that some of what they did was sone by them, in some capacity. Either way, they remember it all.
03:53 - 04:01 He stopped caring only about himself *long before that!* 😡 07:04 - 07:22 I mean..DUH!🤪Although...it seems pretty unfair.Buffy went to Heaven after sacrificing herself to stop Glory,why is it different for Spike?Shouldn't _he_ have gone in Heaven too?🤔 15:33 - 15:42 Oh,maybe that's the explanation... 22:18 Hodgins?!?😱 #Bones
5x04 Had a warning of nudity attatched to it upon airing.
5x05 AtS's first Halloween episode.
5x06 My least favorite of the entire Buffyverse (including the comics). I felt like they could have delved deep into this one and all that happened was a wrestlers episode. I did enjoy Spike twisting what #5 did to Angel when explaining it to everyone, though.
No Spike/Dawn scenes in s7 because they didn't want to suggest anything between them (both characters and actors).
What do you mean suggest anything ? Both of them were really close in season 5 and 6 and nothing happend
@SamuelFeutchine But that's when Buffy and Joyce were about, Marti talk about not wanting to suggest anything Darling Clementine as Dawn was growing up fast
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