China and India are brothers. Do not be disturbed by those ignorant western media. China and India are great ancient civilization and both of us have great potential to become global super power as it was before. Respect to India from China.
+David Chang partially true in term of internal politics, ie the PLA belong to the CCP and not the chinese people. but running the country's economic and foreign affair, it is capitalism, tho not so perfect. So even countries like Japan, Vietnam and some other asean countries may dislike the Chinese communist party. but they still do businesses with them. in any case, india and china relationship is far more better between the North and south korea. :D
Exactly, The relationship between China and India should not be incited by US. Anywhere US goes, they inflicts conflicts and reap the benefits for their own. The people of China and India have the wisdom to deal their problems. US should leave them alone.
Parakh Saxena yeah.the most important thing for the two developing country is trying to catch up with the world.the conflict between india and china is nothing compare to what we had been through by the invasion of west /japan.
Shivam Dharni India needs to take another 30 years to reach the level of china in 2015.Indian people dont even have their own toilet and modern train system..
stop creating hatered between India and China. we are not enemy. we neighbors, we are Asian.Home of good people and peace. don't put India vs China, it's India and China,
+chandan sahoo Nice idea but do not expect any favours from China, they are competing for every dollar in the international market. They dont want to share. they are not your brothers they want it all.
+Simon Bartlett Bty, nobody is willing to share the pie with anybody cuz everybody in Asian countries are competing with each other in the economy war. However, America is the benefactors since many Chinese heavily invest in the real estate and other industries in the USA. Indians tend to invest in UK, Canada, Australia and other former British colonies.
+MANOHAR A L In the future, China will export high tech and build massive infrastructure for the world cuz almost every major country has a nuclear bomb. Only America, French, and Russia are selling destructive weapons to other countries.
+Wei Zhang I fully agree. If India and China stretch out hands of friendship and cooperation, they will avoid war with each other, benefit billions of people and become major forces for good in the world. It is fundamentally important for all the good, peace-loving people of both countries to dominate the relationship, and not allow aggressive nationalists to hold sway.
shanky19921 Not anymore. The only fighting left are between India and Pakistan. Fighting now is pointless and they should just draw the borders where they are now and start working together.
The Indian guy said that he believed that India would catch up to China in 3-5 years. A bit optimistic considering china's economy is 5 times larger than India's. I am glad that both of these countries and their hard working people are achieving success. Wish them all the best.
Love India and all the best to our Indians friends, we are the most peaceful nations in the world, we should never hate and fight each other, our cultures are the best----Chinese guy
India always likes to lie to themselves and never face to reality. If a nation's people need to claim on a train and we call its the most powerful nation....LOL what a fucking joke country india is
Nice comment. But is that true that, in china youtube is banned. If it is, than how you guys comment. And one more thing brothers, If someone commenting negative that doesn't mean that India comment or India think, it just show one single person's thinking. ASIA CAN DEFEAT NORTH SOUTH AMERICA AND EUROPE CONTINENT, GOOD LUCK.
im chinese i like indian many things like movies and buildings but i love my country more,every country have its own advantages we chinese love peace because we understood what u will lose after war ,indian and china should be partner because my clients 80% are indian.india come on!! make your country better. mein indian pyaar karti ho
+Ali Express I think Indian people are amazing. They are just as prudent and hard-working as Chinese way better than the Koreans I saw in Foreign countries.
God, British again, can British people stop making those stupid videos? What's the purpose of this video ah? Both China and India have the largest population in this world, many of people who live in China and India are poor, we should be friends and help each other. We are not enemy.
I highly appreciate and have regards for your feelings the banking system of creation of the credit , as I know it to be , is never ever going to let us be .
Sebas TahalangiAre you india? As a Chinese,I knew the caste system in my middle school age,somepeople said that if a Brahmin commit a crime，a police of Vaishya should kiss his feet first before arrest him. 10 years has past,I want to know is it right?
Sebas Tahalangi Most Indians don't follow it, only tribal areas do. I suggest you visit India and China, as I did, you'll lose a lot of the stereotypicals.
it would be great if the majority of Indian population converts to Christianity, deism or atheism. Religions like hindu and islam are bad for advancement.
Adonis Guy Though I'm an atheist, I think you're ignorance on India's religions is deeply disturbing. Hinduism allows for atheism, they're vegetarians, it has no central scripture like Christians have the Bible (which preaches rape, if you've studied the Deutronomy chapters), Torah (Moses kills the non-Jews of Madina) and Qu'ran (too much to list in a single bracket). Hinduism has anti-caste scriptures, and pro-caste scriptures, upon the British invasion of the subcontinent, they reinforced it for 200 years, to ensure control. Hinduism is perhaps the only secular religion in the world, it has proverbs that state, "there are many paths, whichever you or your friend chooses, they all lead to the same destination," which means it doesn't matter which God you choose, all will find peace. Hinduism actually supports the Big Bang theory and Space-time dilation, ask any devout Hindu and they'll tell you that. Basically, I've studied India all my life. And your comment is stupid, India could do with less Christianity/Islam, two religions that did not enter India peacefully. India never had any anti-science period, where Christianity and Islam killed people who denied their holy books, because Hindus actually have a God of education, Ganesh, and you must study in order to worship him. Also, Chrisitianity has the crusades and inquisitions, Islam has their bloody conquests with religious cleansing, what did the Hindus do?? NONE of that. Please, study India, visit the damn place if you like. Just don't post stupid comments like Hinduism is backwards. It is perhaps the most progressive religion I've ever studied in my life. I personally, just can't believe it with all their Gods (though most Hindus believe there is only one God, that manifests itself into billions of entities), nonetheless, if you've studied enough history, you'll realise that the most mainstream religion depends on geography, where you are, and the time, if you're in pre-0BC Persia or Greece, everyone's Zoroastrian and Hellenistic. If you're in 2000AD Persia and Greece, everyone is Muslim and Christian, because the Muslims and Christians killed them all, raped their women and enslaved their healthy strong children.
Yunpeng Liu Man.. thats total shit!! I m from india, i m a brahmin by birth and if i had such liberties i wouldn't b fucking up my time on youtube.. I have never even heard of such incident. The Caste System still lives among remote rural areas, who r too stubborn to change. Rest of india has gone beyond it, I really wonder what else wrong u have been teached by ur teachers. Being Brahmin gives you no edge.. there r brahmins who r poor, uneducated, or in jails for crimes. just like any other person would have been in their place.
there is no race dude...such idiot comparison is a shame on us...india is really a joke...lots of shitty places...you might not agree...go there and check out...and by the way...democracy does not lift people out of poverty....
I am a Chinese, I think the biggest problem in India. Is their caste system. And the low efficiency of the western democratic political system. Caste system makes their social polarization, people can not put their power in one place, resulting in a more unfair society than china. Obvious Western democratic system is not suitable for use in a country with an economy and the quality of the population is less advanced. In fact, when the western advanced countries in the industrial revolution, their system is not a democratic system. Both China and India have brilliant ancient times. In 1960, our economy and infrastructure were the same.
David Dreyer America glorified the Chinese in our movies with Jett Li and Jackie Chan They are usually the heros. We have a lot of Chinese-Americans that are very happy in the USA. Hopefully we won't have a social credit score like China. I know the government will strike against you if you speak badly about your country and don't show patriotism
i am living in china from two years. and i amazed to see what china has achieved. there is huge gap between china and india. in my opinion china is 10 times better than india. i am a student and studying in china with hundreds of indian friend. they also told me china is better than india. chinese are making there cities from up to bottom in latest engeneering technique. chinese cities are rising so fast. they have master plan and ability to built a masterpiece. but indian cities are struglleng with proverty and huge traffic problem. i think there is no compare between two countries. china is a far better
One cannot compare the two countries, you have to remember India, one of the largest economies for hundreds of years, was stripped of it's trade and commerce by the British for centuries, whereas China had no such problem. India has had to rebuild this economy from scratch post independence. Now India is developing it's innovation on innovation not copies, and cheap products. I remember the time when Taiwan went the same way, reproducing that same formula works for a while, but then the consumer tends to become wary of the quality and longevity of a product. Innovation and new ideas is what India has been in the forefront off, and will promote the growth. As with education, well look at the tech industry and the medical circles, India leads in Pharma development and software innovation. To continue to demolish farmland and move into industry causes more conflict within the economy of a county, as how are you going to feed the population in the long term. This is why democracy, and financial sensibilities are more important than putting an international image of success by rapid building enforced by a government, that sees rents too high for the normal person is not the best idea. Growing and development takes time and as they say Rome was not built in a day, which China is trying to do, to it's own risk. India maybe slow, but it does not enforce on people, but encourages people to develop, this is what the world has forgotten, it is the people that make the country, the country do not make the people.
21 RedSox China is much better than India! Trust me. China will be the strongest country around the world in ten years if the political system is stable.
worse, India has worse infant mortality rates than some sub-saharan african country. Because at least in those african countries, outside charity helps them, where as India when outside money comes, it gets embezzled instantly.
walle1999 I wonder what type of Indian food you ate. Or maybe you are accustomed to spicy food. I really don't know. But every Westerner I know agrees that Indian food is spicier than Western food (in general, there is spicy Western food and sweet Indian food as well)
i usually dont comment,but allow me to highlight some facts about india , many people here seem to be ignorant about india , if china can do in 20 years , india too can do it in next 20 years , dont forget china and india were almost same in 1990's with respect to economy , living standards , poverty , literacy , everything. india got culture which it preserves , unlike china who is losing on this by betting on money , eventually if this trends goes on , like most chinese people here comment , - then chinese people will end up - working extra hours to pay bills / fill gas in car and again pay bills to work even more extra hours , you cannot eat money ! and this is what india do not desire! we are free people , our govt. may be corrupt , but it does not kill its own citizens like chinese govt. did in 1989 in tianmen square by using battle tanks and assault rifles on people and kids ,battle tanks are to protect people and i can clearly see many chinese educated ignorant people who comment here seem to support such autocracy, and i am glad to inform this is what indian govt. is not capable of doing in a million years ! so good luck to china if they want money at cost of fundamental rights , even USA , they developed un-constitutional zones which ripped off fundamental rights of its citizens, i mean does today's obama govt. question the first independence draft prepared by thomas jefferson in 1800's? and most indians would agrre with me that - indians dont want to be top of world , we just want to be happy , thats it , so good luick china and USA with all your money talk and richness , also until recently land was govt, property in china , so basically if you want to build a road in china , govt, kust storms in people home and tell them to get out and they build roads instantly , but govt. here in india takes people permission to build roads , and thats called civilization if some one is educated here ! but on the other hand let me also tell you people some notable achievements despite of all these hurdles- india has 3 aircraft carriers (1 more developed indigeniously , now undergoing sea trials), china has none , china builds fighter jets indigenously but engines are built under license from russia , china does not own fighter jet engine ,india built own fighter jet engines and fully indeginous aircrafts , also built indeginoues combat fighter in sevice called LCA tejas fully indian except some avionic subsystems from israel, china still developing J- 20 that too with russian engine, and has no indiginous technology to built fighter jet , only build engines in china under license from russia , india indigenously built submarines which also have nuclear capablities ,china does not even have subamrines with deployed nuke bombs, meaning india can launch nuclear bombs from submarines (& our missile like agni 5 can reach beijng even if they launch from delhi, just imagine if we fire nukes by BRAHMOS from submarine from south china sea which has best accuracy till date of +_ 2 metres and it also flies with close proximity to ground as low as 2 metres so that enemy radar cannot detect it , and hits target within 5 seconds , its on of the best missile develped whereas china nuke bombs are shit ! yeah okay big loads , but takes time to reach delhi and also highly inaccurate about 100 m here and there , dont believe me google it ! )and indian submarines got stealth tech. which cannot be detected as of todays technology (since it has stealth technology and no technology developed till today to detect stealth), india got worlds fastest cruise missile called - brahmos developed with russia on 50-50 parity basis, russia india also makind the best fighter fifthe generation jet now called sukhoi/HAL FGFA which wil be best fighter , yes ! better than USA F - 22 raptor , india also develping AMCA (advanced combat fighter which will be first of its type delivered around 2022), fifth generation fighter jet, india sent successful mission to mars , china has not !, indian space programs till date got 80 % success rates , like many nations including USA , china,japan,russia sent mission to moon , indias only 2nd mission to moon discovered water on moon , forget china - not even usa did that ! so india has also achieved phenomenal success inspite of all problems , now some people may argue here that - india must feed its hungry people first then go for mission to mars , i also felt same way - but then i realised our PM words - to feed poor you need people - and for people to be there - you need national security - which comes from investing in defence - thats why india invest so much in defence , millitary,air force,navy , so basically india battling with poverty and development (its called R&D) at the same time , and thats commendable , whereas china only best at copying things , today china fears indian navy , we have hold over china oil supply - which is directly through indian ocean , so dont indulge in fights , india for one has always taught the world - yoga , peace , satyagraha , never invaded any nation in history of thousand years , but all this gave wrong message to world , hence , we suffered a lot in hostory - separation from pakistan , bangladesh, POK kashmir , aksai china, fought 5 wars till date with pakistan & 1 with china , but now india learnt it lessons bigtime from history and hence today is the biggest arms importer of arms and defence technology and also one of the biggest producer of arms and defence tech. , you know what - in 1970 india urged in UNO that nuclear weapons be abolished and destroyed , and guess what UNO council let indian PM down , so india was basically forced to adopt the nuclear bombs and hence we did nuke test in 1971 , so dont point out at india , india alwys been peacefull nation .. and will want to be so for ever in future unless national integrity is compromised ! and about india china - rich and poor - i say indians would like to live and die as they wish , no one question it and democracy gives us that , unlike chinese autocracy where common man not allowed to speak about any wrong doings of govt. and if any politician/minister is caught doing corruption(the ferrari case) the minister is hanged without proper and fair trial ! indian laws taked years to give result but i am happy that it does not punish innocent or give proper punishment as given in the law and constitution , yeas india got largest written constitution and law book , ask law attorneys in your nation who come to india to learn law ! unlike the british or US or chinese judges/juries where 10 juries decide the punishment and decide wheter its criminal act or not .also , indian film industry (bolywood forms only 20 %) is biggest and largest film industry in the world - yes like 3 times bigger than holywood ! i am lucky to be born in india i would like to be born/re-incarnate for next 10 lives even IF it has to be in slums which are free & lively in spirit and mingle to bolywood music than being born in lifeless skyscrapers of shanghai and beijing where humans are machines and dream about money , eat money , and god knows may be even sleep with money , i dont talk rubbish like this but some comments here made me do this ! opologies again if anyone felt my language was offensive ....i feel instead india & china got million things to learn from each other , and we must concentrate on that rather than fighting youtube war ! and please do write to me at wadjevishal@yahoo.com, if you got anything more to share knowledge on , i am all ears to share knowledge and make friends, even if they are chinese , lol ....
teror insurgency is fully under control , but , however , yes , i have to agree that - india has oo deal with hostile neighbor as pakistan , and i think china has even a biiger threat than terorism in india , eror attacks unite people - whereas in china there even bigger threat - tibet , then worst of al lis - income inequality - china ranks in top 5 nation among majot nations for income inequality , there is huge probeem of economic and regional disparity within china itself - west chinese regions feel left out as chinese govt. focuses on east coastal stated to develop. paying much less focus on west regions .
China opened up markets in 79, India did in 91. With a leverage of English, India did race ahead if you go year by year. For India, its a long way to catch up with China. But i am sure, it definitely WILL. I dont see a war. I see a regional partnership which would be the basis of next great dominance of Asia.
The difference between China and India is what the government allows you to see. You see in India there is press/media freedom and they report the very worst and the best, the government can't really regulate it(yes I'm not oblivious to corruption and government influence). In China, the government controls the media, don't kid yourselves China has a substantial poverty issue but you don't hear about it nearly as much because its against what the government wants the world to see. Now no doubt India's problems are larger than China and democracy is chaotic and corrupt, but to say India won't ever be near China or its a joke to compare India and China is kind of short sighted.
***** Actually according to the IMF the average income per capita is $5400 in India and China is $10000. According to the international poverty line 20-25% of people in India are below that according to different sources. For China, less data exists, no doubt, but according to the CIA factbook about 15% live under the poverty line. Now granted the poverty line is only $2 per day so thats very low but I never denied India's problems are bigger, just said China has their share of problems too but no one talks about them because there is no press freedom and a lot of propaganda, no denying that.
***** Nah there's plenty of organizations that can do a good job of reporting problems in China ranging from government control, corruption, poverty. Just ask the Hong Kong protesters.
Actually, it's the other way around. I've read the Chinese English language press and it's not what you think. I've also traveled in China and again, you're exaggerating. India cannot solve its problems by feeling competitive. Not controlling your population can be catastrophic.
China looks like a country from the future to me ( order and discipline thanks to their government ). Nobody is even close... India ? diverse but unorganized, which is a shame...
Shouldn't the focus point be "democracy" vs "despotism"? Real democracy only comes when people are not struggling with hunger and death. Only when people are healthy and wealthy, they will think about changes, and make changes come true. You will only think more and catch up with or to a higher level once you don't have to worry about starvation. Comparing with the despair woman in India and the dissatisfied man who was forced to move to urban house in China, their anger or dissatisfaction are different.
Lol... India winner over time??? Lets remember that India is not some average sized country its 1 billion + population , it will take well over a hundred years to catch up at this pace.
Heres something to add to your point, in the last 30 years Indian economic growth lifted about 300 million people out of poverty. Great right? But at the same time about 350 million were born into poverty, although the % of the countries' population in poverty has reduced, the absolute number of people in poverty has increased. Without population control, India will collapse onto itself because even as of now, their economy can't produce enough jobs for its youth, yet they continue to reproduce like crazy.
Why the Indian guy he interviewed is a well educated guy, but the Chinese guy he interviewed is just an ordinary guy? And then he compared the innovation! It's an unfair comparison!
ye wenbin India should solve the basics first, like slums, pollution, caste system, superstitions and many others and forget about bullet trains and space programmes. Even India built the fastest train in the world today, people would still see India as a country with filth and poo. Why is India always want to compete with China? It should start small. It can even compete with Singapore, where many Indians flock there to work as cheap labourers.
John Simon Go make a video lto boost your self-esteem, ike many Indians have been doing named "Why China Hates India" or "Why India Is Better Than China", because Chinese likes Bollywood, Chinese like curry, India has the US as its master, Indians face no prejudice in China because the Chinese are scared of Indians, India has more elephants than China, All Indians can speak English because they have been colonized before, ...
Antoine Dupuy India has never been a superpower and never will be. China has been prosperous many times in the past. When have you heard of Ancient India? Never. Ancient China such as the Qing Dynasty, Song Dynasty, etc, have all been major Chinese industrialized powers in the past and were the most advanced at their times. Countless of inventions were made by the Chinese. I can't even recall anything that were invented by India. If you think that poor and backwards India can rise, you are one misinformed CIA-troll.
Antoine Dupuy When was the last time India was a superpower? I don't remember anytime at all. How about China? China has been superpower during the Song Dynasty and Qing dynasty. You're such an idiot. I don't want to waste my time with someone like you who don't give any examples.
Antoine Dupuy So, what have those empires accomplished? I don't they were of any significance. Just the Qing Dynasty along can eat all those Indian empires for breakfast and not become full yet.
Antoine Dupuy Provide me a source that shows anything that the Indian dynasties have achieved. Don't just talk rubbish out of your mouth without good evidence, you fucking troll.
There is no Race between India and China, We are going to be the best of Friends and let our Huge populations live in peace and Prosperity and help the world.
John Smith hey for your kind information INDIA/ HINDUSTAN / BHARAT is multilingual country and we have 22 national languages including English and we speak and respect it better than any other country in the whole world.
Namita Barthwal i already watched "funny English teacher in India"...average Indians in the North only speak Hindi & broken English or Gujerati with broken English...Southern Indians do not even want to speak Hindi...22 languages from 22 different ethnics...no 1 single Indian person speak all the 22 languages, u stupid boaster!!!!! the most one Indian person could speak is only 3 languages,which is his own ethnic language,Hindi if he living in the North & English with thick & funny Indian accent...and for the South every single person from Tamil Nadu speaks Tamilan & funny English...an India person's maximum ability is only speaking 3 languages not 22 languages u shameless Indian deceiver!!!!
The lack of freedom in China is really exaggerated by the West, I am an ABC and I lived in Australia all my life...when I go to China for a few months I could barely feel how my freedoms are being restricted...probably because politics is my least concern, and I'm sure that's the same for the 1.3 billion Chinese people out there. Politics is almost like a television show they watch on TV - it's what they talk about but they don't really want any involvement, they all want a good life, and they seem to be having it. In China's middle class today, the wealth gap seems to be giving people less freedom than the government.
India and China still have a long way to go. The ruling class and the upper middle class in both countries are benefiting from the substantial economical growth they have experienced in the past 20 years. However, their are still millions up millions of people in both those countries earning less than a dollar a day just as one example; of the many socio economic problems faced by these two countries.
My country may be unlawful, corrupted,poor,uneducated or whatever. .but look the growth in these conditions. .images if we can grow in such vulnerable situation so fast ... then if we overcome this problems...we will be way ahead of world ..
Democracy is chaotic and corrupt in its infancy. Go check American history, 70years in their existence they were killing each other in civil war. Now that was a different time no doubt, but India is changing over the past 15-20yrs.
India is a far more democratic and diversed society than China, it has better eduction, media, and innovation. Its weakness is also these: there is no synergy that you feel that can sweep away obstacles like China does, synergy is very important in growth (even in dictatorship). The very poor or even devastating infrastructure in India is also caused by such freedom, and the wealth of India lays in some private people and company. The Indian government is not powerful and rich. China is totally on the other side, for very long time people are trained to think like one (even until I was young in the 80s and early 90s), China is not a democratic country but it's a lot more democratic than it used to be! You can talk about loads of stuff that 20 years ago you will go to jail for! China has that synergy like a juggernaut! Politics is above everything in China, government holds all resources and power, everytime they throw one card out, there is surge of growth like earthquake, they still has loads of cards to play. Chinese government is rich! When needed, they can throw out 600-700 billion USD cash for investment, and do it again in few years when necessary, no country can do that today! And that's why China is moving like a juggernaut. Both China and India is moving very fast and to a bright direction, and there are many changes happening within. China is turning into dealers/buyers/investors than producers (cost is getting too high), the income has to come from other sources. India still has large pool of way cheaper labor forces, I think India will remain as producer and enjoy the profit it makes and attract more investors for such purpose even Chinese investors. I think China is really on the edge or brink of major change, in the next 10 years, Chinese export will steadily decrease while imports surge, Chinese needs to learn and execute investment wisely. Production in China will remain mostly for domestic demand. This shift is deceisive for China for its future income. India on the other hand, needs to focus on its synergy, sharpening its infrastructure (which is the main obstacle now) for further growth, do sth with cast system, give people a better chance. But I think India is not facing its fatal change now, the country will keep its track for some times in the future and keep income growth. As the last gentleman mentioned, 40% of the world doing good will somehow help the rest 60%. I really think European shattering economy and US debt surge (now over 17 T UDS) will be eased from this. And both Europe and US will be once again economically viable (income bigger than cost).
i don't think Indian has better education than China. Not saying China's education system is any better; I think they are equally bad. But China's academic pressure ensures more students who are better educated, but also more depressed.
I was expecting a racist trash talking of two ancient Asian cultures but I am pleasantly surprised. Very informed, very graphic visual feast in first person mostly. You can almost feel the inherent national pride bubbling beneath the conversation with both people as well as their competitive hardworking nature. Great work!
I know this statistics already, what you trying to say? please go ahead..You better search other youtube videos on discussion.. Indians dont focus of mugging-up books like you..Indians are innovation and creative based, Chinese are imitation (copy) based. Showing this statistics not going to help any body because if a country really makes progress, socio-economic should together go up.. In China's case not so, it is just their propaganda to bloat numbers here and there and show them as rock-stars..Again explain why only 16% chinese go abroad return if your country is a shining super-power and better than USA which you try to claim..
you should learn human socio-economic development history - there is little correlation between a democratic model and economic development. In fact all autocratic government would develop much faster and better than democratic ones, NONE of the modern day "champions of democracy" were remotely democratic during their economic development. the US/UK developed way before they adopted universal sufferage and equal rights to all races (still a problem in 2014 US).
....u are fcuking stupid..India is a fucking joke country AND THE MOST CORRUPTED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD. INDIA IS A LOT WORST THAN CHINA. CHINA'S GDP IS 4 TIMES THAN INDIA'S GDP. CHINA NOW HAS FULL INFRASTRUCTURS ...INDIA ONLY HAS 27%...POOR INDIA
SSmart PHilip hey u, what you know abt china, the biggest country of the world? you idiots only go and walk in selected cities and go blah blah over it. Why never a siongle Video of region connecting to Russia or other parts of the world? always Shanghai and selected cities and u blind eye person, just go and check wikipedia which is most corrupted country of the world.. in china, just go and try to open ur web site and then say here. Baby, u r all controlled there.. so, shut ur big and loud mouth here.
Prashant Mathur Indian currency was stable? hahahahahahahahahaha... thats a good one. India currency depreciated 40% in 2011 - 2012, wiping out 2 years of nominal economic growth.
I am a Chinese from mainland China, after reading some of the comment below, I can not help myself to blame the id 台灣祖國...... why are you so radical... humility is the traditional virtue of Chinese. we like all our neibours and we only compare with someone who harmed us in the history, India is not included. Actually, Chinese people's self-confidence is increased rapidly, but we just discuss with other Chinese, we never showed any aggressive attitude in thousands years just like we never sailed thousands of kilometers over the sea to invade other countries.... Remember, China will always rise peacefully.
The fact is, there is no way for some journalists of BBC, even with the help of some external experts, to be able to figure out the real detailed capabilities of countries as HUGE and COMPLEX as China and India. My guessing is that BBC already HAD a point of view in mind before going to China and India, and their reporters simply PICK things they want to, in order to substantiate or imply their point of view. Unfortunately, the truth is, China produces basically EVERYTHING. One can hardly list all things China produces, and maybe trying to list things China cannot produce is possible: big commercial plane, super carrier, Saturn-V-size rocket, what else? And innovation is still not as good as some western post-industrial countries, which is quite normal, but everywhere. Probably the scale of innovation of China is dimmed by its massive industrial production? Or simply BBC reporters intentionally neglect all the fancy stuffs within those Chinese mega cities like Shanghai, Beijing, HongKong, Shenzhen, etc? Or simply they lack language skill or culture background to be able to find these innovation. In a word, this vid worth a watch, but it is ugly biased. Attention: everything above is for questioning BBC of distorting truth, but not for belittling India, another great nation as China is. The thing is, as two of the world most populous developing countries, these two countries don't want to indulge themselves into the western-designed "China vs India" mentality trap. Working together, these two countries have a huge synergy to burst. After more than 200 years of western world domination, it's time Asia's turn again.
China is clearly ahead of India because the country is a nation, with one common language and tradition. India is the remants of empire that is trying to hold itself together without any emperor and while India calls itself a democracy it is basically a federation of tribes in political practise.
Too many of our western political experts who are speaking about China, USSR and former “communist” countries are constantly embarrassing them selves as complete ignorants on the matter. It is not enough read media to gain some knowledge, it is absolutely necessary to study profoundly the political history and political philosophy in order to understand meaning of basic words such as Socialism and Communism and not to forget Capitalism. Accepting populist labelling of each of these three words means making absolutely crucial mistake and present yourself as complete ignorant. That kind of populism will probably work in pub or in some private circle of equally thinking ignorants. First of all, each of systems has its theoretical - scientific explanation and they are absolutely different from populist descriptions. Let me give you very quick precise theoretical descriptions: Capitalism is a political system where minority rules majority on a pretext of democracy which is farcical as no one government is asking population for their opinion even about vital and for their life crucial decisions. Government is in a hands of minority corporate representatives, and all they do is to protect and serve to this minority. Population is left behind in poverty and ignorance. Socialism is a political system which has main purpose to transform unjust capitalist system towards just political system called communism where in theory people would be treated equally and there would be no material differences between them. Socialism as such can arise only when capitalism reaches its top (imperialism) and antagonism amongst ruling party and people would reach its point. Socialism does not require revolution and is actually unwelcome as causes wide destruction. Socialism is a system in which are merging capitalism inequality and political equality tendency. That basically means that in socialism there is still private property but it is getting more and more controlled by society and through generations it will de-solve as the society will develop towards equality. Private property will be more and more controlled by the people and the distribution of profits will become more and more fair as the system will ensure that those who work and create profit have larger share than those who claim profit in name of capital (which was always created by other working people). This process takes centuries and is democratic without any trace of violence. Communism is only theoretical end line which in reality cannot be reached but serves as a beacon towards which humanity should drive. Of course these descriptions are very short and not scientific, they are basic to understand that so called experts are speaking about things that they do not understand. China is in reality country with real socialist political system where private initiative is parallel to state supervising system. This system prevents private interests to over-exploit workers and to amass huge profits by stealing profits created by workers. No system is just only that socialism is more just than capitalism and it will become more and more just as the time passes by and by democratic regulations reduces percentage of profit grab by capitalists. Making comparison between India and China is pretty naïve. I have been in both countries for a quite lengthy time and know that India is that far behind China that it will need 3 - 4 decades to reach nowadays China. In 1978 I spent 8 months in China on business and if I compare then China with nowadays India than I would say that there you are. Since then China did quantum leap and reached absolutely impossible level of development. I can assure you that if 1978 China would be capitalist democracy as India, than you can bet your last penny that today there would be no difference between them. Only thanks to real socialism and above all official collapse of cold war and disintegration of USSR, no one really paid any attention to china and every one was expecting as there are still some who still believe that China will collapse at any moment. As China was left undisturbed and all attention was turned towards Russia no one realised that the dragon form far east started to fly, and how. Nowadays there is no neither military let alone economic power which can press China. China and its socialism is future, no matter if you like it or not.
I recently traveled thru China and agree with your comment. There is no such thing as a "Western Expert" lol. China is the country of this century and the US should again make peace with them as we did in the 1970s.
Blaster53 i really agree with you ,i am a Chinese who live in Europe ,as i see Europe is in chaos now ,even paris is dirty everywhere ,i was born in a Village of China in 1978,i can see What wonderful apartment my Village people are living now ,order And clean And big park as daily places .but western people still think China is backward ,actually European is losing their superoity day by day !
Clearly there is not even a semblance of attempt to avoid bias in this British journalist who obviously spins every word to favor his former colonials.
Hopefully I'll see who gets the upper hand in my lifetime though I'll be old by then... [personally I think China will get there first but in the end, in the long run India will triumph although it might take a century more... ]
India's growth is chaotic, spontaneous, from bottom to top, despite the government. China's growth is organized, streamlined, regulated, top to bottom, by the government. China has a huge trade surplus with the west especially the United States. It means China's surplus is in U.S. Treasury bonds, government bonds, U.S. Dollars but that is exactly the problem. We are actually selling our fiscal deficit, our Federal Reserve paper to the Chinese who are ACTUALLY giving us their goods, their finished products and other services in exchange. It's like worthless selling sand at a premium on the seashore. If they are stupid enough to buy our fancy paper...well, we ain't complaining. The Unites States' willingness and ability to honor China's surplus is at best wishful thinking and best case scenario, but a highly unlikely scenario. Those of us that live in the United States know that very well. China can only use part of this trade surplus to import, basically means import little and pretend it still has huge purchasing power. And by systematically undervaluing their own currency against the US Dollar they are under the impression that their trade surplus is getting that much bigger. Because if it really wanted to utilize 100% of this purchasing power, they are looking at War with us. Short of that there's no other threat they can use and we know very well that they will not want to go to war because that would only mean self-destruction and nothing achieved but everything lost. So in the short term and the long term, for a little bit of bargaining power here and there they've hedged their entire future on the premise of the American economy one day magically turning around, the entire fiscal debt wiped out and Uncle Sam is "rich" one again, just like the good guy winning at the end of every movie. China's huge and unreal trade surplus is actually a toxin, like spoiled milk. You can taste some of this spoiled milk of your finger just to impress the onlooker with the gallons of milk that you have in reserve, but try drinking a cupful of this milk, it will give you food poisoning, trying consuming a liter and you will end up in the E.R., try gulping down a gallon and you will be dead. JACKSON, Mississippi. USA.
And how much has the Indian rupee fallen in the international forex market as you were speaking...Yeah, China is so stupid that the RMB currently stands closest as the next international reserve currency that replaces the US dollar! "China can only use part of this trade surplus to import, basically means import little and PRETEND it still has huge purchasing power." Not everything has to be imported as China is the world's biggest manufacturer, with the abundance of her own resources herself! And I am sure you know how cheap she is, thus the huge purchasing power! :) So, China being the largest markets in the world for cars, internet, rails and hi-speed trains, renewable energy, steel, mobile phone, f&b and etc. all meant nothing to you? And I couldn't even mention all...She having some of the world's largest internet, telecommunications & its equipments design and manufacturing, computer, banking, oil, steel, ship building, design and construction, train building, port & airport management companies and corporations, is as good as an illusion to you?! Ranked 2nd as the country with the most billionaires also meant nothing to you? Chinese tourists are now the "darling" of the world! All these while still managing to maintain as the world's fastest growing major economy...Everything is hot air or is it your head that is burning? "Short of that there's no other threat they can use and we know very well that they will not want to go to war because that would only mean self-destruction and nothing achieved but everything lost." Speaking of others again... :) Do you have a mirror or, one that is well-polished ? You think China is depending on the "benevolence" of the US? :) You really did think China was dumb, huh? :) "So in the short term and the long term, for a little bit of bargaining power here and there they've hedged their entire future on the premise of the American economy one day magically turning around, the entire fiscal debt wiped out and Uncle Sam is "rich" one again, just like the good guy winning at the end of every movie." Well, I guess China had no real practical alternative here, due to the USD being an international currency. Besides, China is now the biggest trading country!.. But, anyway in such a case, the US may well lose much more than China, not forgetting that only part of China's trade earnings from the US has been coverted to buying US bonds and treasuries & probably by then, Chinese RMB can out standard the USD being the global currency of choice. Chinese gold reserves can also cushion her from the fallout, being a major, if not the world's biggest gold producer herself. I can be sure then that the USD will be out of favor as the world's currency and China has no more need for USD reserves, something which will hurt, most of all, the US and some of her closest allies who have all along been the biggest buyer of her bonds and treasuries! Imagine the impact on her goodwill standing in the world! The impact will be nothing short of the financial version of a global Nuke terrorism, the destruction of which on international financial markets will be more than comparable to the combined fallout from the Great Depression and the 2 World Wars! In short, nobody really gains from such an Apocalyptic financial world order! The US will drag her feet for as long as possible on her debt issue.. In the meantime, China has already gotten more than her "deserved" payback and is edging more and more on the supremacy of the US global financial position :) Last but not least, you sure had a good sense of humor :) Maybe you should turn in a script to Hollywood? Oops! Sorry I have forgotten it had been "bought over" by China :)
FADHILI MTAVANGU I was just trying to make a very technical point to our Chinese friend Mr.Yi but he took it in the wrong spirit. With the trade surplus that China has with the U.S. in terms of buying power, logically it should make their average citizen, not their state but even their citizens, among the wealthiest in the world almost on par with the Saudis or the Swiss but it is not so. They are still among the world's poorest. It's like saying Mr.Fadhili, I have kept lending you millions of dollars at a very interest rate because you keep borrowing from me. So that should make me a billionaire, on paper at least. But that would be true only if Mr.Fadhili has the means and the intention to repay all my debt with the interest accrued. You can keep throwing fancy gifts at me to buy some time. Now what does that make me? A wealthy billionaire or a foolish banker? That's exactly the case of the United States and China. The U.S. keeps telling China, here, take some more of our paper and give us more credit. It's like the story of David and Goliath. China thinks it's the new world Goliath but when Goliath fell to David's little stones, his own weight crushed him to death. The United States is a great lover but a treacherous spouse. Anybody that has read some history should know.
China's total economy is 10 trillion dollars. Its total National debt is 27 trillion dollar. There is no global demand because of ageing population in the world and China is in the edge of collapse. India may be an Old elephant but it will reach its destination slow and steadily.
India's growth is on the other hand, sustainable. It's much smaller trade surplus is easily manageable or "dumpable". For example, you can easily sell (or spend) $100 (India's) worth of fake currency without a significant risk of being discovered, but if you had to get rid of (or spend) say, $10 million (China's), that's a huge risk with a 90 to 10 chance of being discovered. Your $10 million has now become a noose around your own neck, like a "toxic asset", you can show it off to your neighbor to make him envy you but you can't use it. Like the saying "water water everywhere but not a drop to drink". And in addition to the figurative $100 India has the advantage of democracy, however detrimental to national growth. The individual is protected, there are labor laws and courts and trade unions, a thousand political parties, decentralization of government, however corrupt. China can build a bullet train from Beijing to Shanghai in record time, record budget and to perfection. In India, it's government will spend 20 years in just trying to acquire the land needed to lay the railroad tracks from the thousands of land owners. Here, unlike China, the state cannot send a truckload of troops to your doorstep, put a gun to your head and tell you that your land is not yours anymore. In fact, it never was, everything ultimately, even the individual is the property of the state.
Sustainable economy? Well, that is pretty self-denying, isn't it? :) Simply a small chunk of the sustainable portion of the Chinese economy is larger than the whole Indian Economy :) Is Democracy necessary an advantage? If anything, I think this is a fallacy! Democratic Greece never blossomed into the Roman empire which remains the pride of the Western world until today! Everyone is "worshiping" democracy as the holy grail of sociopolitical systems when it's all just a belief, as illusive as Communist Utopia :) But the most important thing is, China is not resting on her laurels, saying her system is all perfect and everything...And there is strong demand from the masses and certain quarters of the govt. for some form of democratic reforms (this does not equate to Western style universal suffrage, I'm sure but rather some form of semi-democracy which may just be more sustainably suited to China's long term needs). Remember, pride often comes before a fall and complacency is the surest sign of ill-afforded pride :) "And in addition to the $100 India has the advantage of democracy, however DETRIMENTAL to NATIONAL GROWTH. The individual is protected, there are labor laws and courts and trade unions, a thousand political parties, decentralization of government, HOWEVER CORRUPT." "China can build a bullet train from Beijing to Shanghai in record time, record BUDGET and to PERFECTION. In India, it's government will spend 20 YEARS in just trying to acquire the land needed to lay the railroad tracks from the thousands of land owners." "water water everywhere but not a drop to drink" - Speaking of others... :) Even if everything is the property of the state in China, the average Chinese still fares much better than his Indian counterpart, with a higher standard of living in provision of education, income, transportation, healthcare, engineering, housing, and the list goes on... India and China should not get self-consolation prizes comparing with each other..At least, that's from the Chinese viewpoint - there's simply no sense of achievement and satisfaction :)
I'm just trying to put it in perspective, maybe just the way I see it, not trying to be biased or something. The Chinese people that I've worked with in the U.S. are among the most intelligent, hard working and focused of any linguistic group that I've seen. Not the same with Indians, they may be smart given their advantage with the English language but not very hard working or focused- actually they are lazy. My concern is not the Chinese trade surplus with the U.S. but the U.S.'s ability to honor that trade surplus. It's like putting all your eggs in one basket and we all here know this is not a safe basket, it's bottom has a invisible but huge hole. We saw that during the housing market crash, it's the middle class, working class and the retired pensioners who were the biggest losers. My uncle is 78, retired, had a comfortable 401K. He lost all his savings and even had to mortgage his house which he eventually forfeited. Instead of publicly protesting, he took a job at Walmart because in his words, you have to eat food in order to live in order to protest. So this is our government's lack of regulation of the Wall Streeters that caused this to our own people, not yet the Chinese. In India's case, you've heard the saying- one who is down need fear no fall. I mean if you fall from 10 feet you gonna have a broken leg but if you fall from 100 feet you gonna have a broken skull.
And you're right, these too Asian giants should not be trying to get consolation prizes by putting the other down or by comparing, instead should focus on healthy competition and diversifying their economic portfolios, away from the U.S. Treasury/Federal Reserve. Just like China had suggested a new global currency to replace the dollar. Try to gather support for that and get other nations on board. Because our country's habitual accumulation of debt is hurting us more than you can imagine. This is Richard Nixon's sad legacy.
ridiculous. Many peasants in China are hoping for Land expropriation because this is the fast way to become rich. Sure, in the past there are some human rights abuse in land expropriation, but that's just a small portion, and such phenomenon is becoming rare and rare. Actually, almost every poor peasant has at least a piece of land, while in India most peasants don't own even a piece of land. In India, the land are owned by rich people, which is very different from China.
Is democracy useful? Of course. However, democracy needs foundation. Otherwise, it will postpone the development of a country. China has poor democracy base currently. If now the communist party collapsed and two parties show up and hold election, it will be a catastrophe. Just see Thailand now. From my own perspective, India also doesn't own a good democracy base. What Mainland China should do now is to learn from Taiwan, an area (or country) changing from totalitarian to democracy smoothly. Btw, east asia, especially the Great Chinese Area, is really a funny place. Taiwan has both democracy and freedom. Hong Kong has full freedom but no democracy. China mainland has freedom, which is limited in some specific are, and has no poor democracy. And North Korea........eh.........nothing to say
are you sure you know what happened in Taiwan? The first elected former leader is in jail. and another one's approval rate under 10%. could you imagine such thing happen in mainland? now you talk funny Chinese area, what do you think of Singapore? Freedom and democracy? LoL
Roy Wang Of course I know what happened there, because most of my family members are Taiwaneses. Tân Tsuí-Pínn is an alarm for Taiwanese democracy. You can't imagine such a young democratic entity doesn't make any mistakes. After the election, Ma Ying-jeou's popularity goes down. This is partly due to rising price of water and electricity and other political issues. From my perspective, Even if Tsai Ing-wen came to power, these problems are also extremely hard to solve. What democracy works now is to give Taiwaneses an lesson, so that four year later they can choose a better politician as their president. Can mainland people choose their leader to solve social problem?
very funny video, a short history culture like britain try to judge two 4000 years old cluture like china and india. Both Inidan and Chinese know how to live their life in this planet much better than British.
China's innovation is focused on high-end technology, science and technology is the most important, low end manufacturing industry is not important as long as the quality is good.
I like both countries and both have fascinating cultures and are enriched in extensive and unique history - but if I had to decide which I preferred, I would choose India.
China and India are brothers.
Do not be disturbed by those ignorant western media.
China and India are great ancient civilization and both of us have great potential to become global super power as it was before.
Respect to India from China.
+sung kim Not necessarily, considering India is a democracy and China is communist. China is closer with Russia than it is with India, at the moment.
+David Chang China is communist and Vietnam is communists but they don't like each other
+David Chang partially true in term of internal politics, ie the PLA belong to the CCP and not the chinese people. but running the country's economic and foreign affair, it is capitalism, tho not so perfect. So even countries like Japan, Vietnam and some other asean countries may dislike the Chinese communist party. but they still do businesses with them. in any case, india and china relationship is far more better between the North and south korea. :D
+sung kim
India and Taiwan are brothers but not China as China is still occupied by fascist Dictators.
India and Taiwan are both democracies.
+David Chang shut up Taiwanese ! China mainland always taught us to respect other civilization like India
don't consider China as our enemy. Its time to forget 1962 and 1967. Let's move together and make both the nations great again
Parakh Saxena yes
Exactly, The relationship between China and India should not be incited by US. Anywhere US goes, they inflicts conflicts and reap the benefits for their own. The people of China and India have the wisdom to deal their problems. US should leave them alone.
Parakh Saxena if you are india .i am very happy to see this.coperate with two big peopel country.benefits the two country
李林 then be happy bro because I am from India. I hope all our conflicts would be resolved, we will move towards our ancient relations
Parakh Saxena yeah.the most important thing for the two developing country is trying to catch up with the world.the conflict between india and china is nothing compare to what we had been through by the invasion of west /japan.
China never regard India as a competitor, while the Indian always dreaming to surpass China. This is the difference.
那是三哥的精神糧食
印度是真不行😓
Agree, these are the only things you are good at. Absolutely No.1 in the world XD
Shivam Dharni不破除种姓制度，印度无法发展，你们需要一场流血的宗教革命。
Shivam Dharni India needs to take another 30 years to reach the level of china in 2015.Indian people dont even have their own toilet and modern train system..
stop creating hatered between India and China. we are not enemy. we neighbors, we are Asian.Home of good people and peace. don't put India vs China, it's India and China,
+chandan sahoo
Nice idea but do not expect any favours from China, they are competing for every dollar in the international market. They dont want to share. they are not your brothers they want it all.
+Simon Bartlett Bty, nobody is willing to share the pie with anybody cuz everybody in Asian countries are competing with each other in the economy war. However, America is the benefactors since many Chinese heavily invest in the real estate and other industries in the USA. Indians tend to invest in UK, Canada, Australia and other former British colonies.
+搽旦sahoo 印度和中国都正在为摆脱贫穷努力
Thanks dude .we are brothers definitely
+Black Bird Pakistanis dude we are brothers too yes
China and India should hand in hand to create a better life for people!
there is no winers in the war..
I agree with you .china and India both civilization and we should brothers
+MANOHAR A L In the future, China will export high tech and build massive infrastructure for the world cuz almost every major country has a nuclear bomb. Only America, French, and Russia are selling destructive weapons to other countries.
+MANOHAR A L you have to understand that China is not the one created the conflict between India and Pakistan, but the british empire colonialism did!
+Wei Zhang
I fully agree.
If India and China stretch out hands of friendship and cooperation, they will avoid war with each other, benefit billions of people and become major forces for good in the world. It is fundamentally important for all the good, peace-loving people of both countries to dominate the relationship, and not allow aggressive nationalists to hold sway.
China and India should be partners.
Agree with that . my friends are all from India
agree!asions should united
Agree! I'm a Chinese ,we should be partner
Michael Mou but chinese people are fighting over the borders.
shanky19921 Not anymore. The only fighting left are between India and Pakistan. Fighting now is pointless and they should just draw the borders where they are now and start working together.
The Indian guy said that he believed that India would catch up to China in 3-5 years. A bit optimistic considering china's economy is 5 times larger than India's. I am glad that both of these countries and their hard working people are achieving success. Wish them all the best.
@@Tate525 yeah, i guess that's better than massacaring millions in war.
Love India and all the best to our Indians friends, we are the most peaceful nations in the world, we should never hate and fight each other, our cultures are the best----Chinese guy
hah, still day-dreaming
India?what are you talking about? India is joke! Especially theirs democratic,呵呵
India always likes to lie to themselves and never face to reality. If a nation's people need to claim on a train and we call its the most powerful nation....LOL what a fucking joke country india is
Red empire 1949 First Do u know the meaning of joke? Think before you speak.Take your middle finger in (_)(_) and smell it. Now its a joke.
Nice comment. But is that true that, in china youtube is banned. If it is, than how you guys comment.
And one more thing brothers, If someone commenting negative that doesn't mean that India comment or India think, it just show one single person's thinking.
ASIA CAN DEFEAT NORTH SOUTH AMERICA AND EUROPE CONTINENT, GOOD LUCK.
im chinese i like indian many things like movies and buildings but i love my country more,every country have its own advantages we chinese love peace because we understood what u will lose after war ,indian and china should be partner because my clients 80% are indian.india come on!! make your country better. mein indian pyaar karti ho
+邱柳月 mai bhi china ko pyaar karta hun ...我爱中国
+AmericanDreamer DONT BE SO ROAD
+Ali Express losers!!
+Ali Express I think Indian people are amazing. They are just as prudent and hard-working as Chinese way better than the Koreans I saw in Foreign countries.
Peter Xie another hindpooo i guess
God, British again, can British people stop making those stupid videos? What's the purpose of this video ah? Both China and India have the largest population in this world, many of people who live in China and India are poor, we should be friends and help each other. We are not enemy.
They like war...keeps the money coming... cha cheng
I highly appreciate and have regards for your feelings the banking system of creation of the credit , as I know it to be , is never ever going to let us be .
i appreciate your views. Love China from India
Oscar 李 you are right
And the paper currency was created by the Chinese during the Song dynasty, too (that's nearly 1,000 years ago).
India can't go anywhere with a stone age caste system.
Sebas TahalangiAre you india? As a Chinese,I knew the caste system in my middle school age,somepeople said that if a Brahmin commit a crime，a police of Vaishya should kiss his feet first before arrest him. 10 years has past,I want to know is it right?
Sebas Tahalangi Most Indians don't follow it, only tribal areas do. I suggest you visit India and China, as I did, you'll lose a lot of the stereotypicals.
it would be great if the majority of Indian population converts to Christianity, deism or atheism. Religions like hindu and islam are bad for advancement.
Adonis Guy Though I'm an atheist, I think you're ignorance on India's religions is deeply disturbing. Hinduism allows for atheism, they're vegetarians, it has no central scripture like Christians have the Bible (which preaches rape, if you've studied the Deutronomy chapters), Torah (Moses kills the non-Jews of Madina) and Qu'ran (too much to list in a single bracket).
Hinduism has anti-caste scriptures, and pro-caste scriptures, upon the British invasion of the subcontinent, they reinforced it for 200 years, to ensure control.
Hinduism is perhaps the only secular religion in the world, it has proverbs that state, "there are many paths, whichever you or your friend chooses, they all lead to the same destination," which means it doesn't matter which God you choose, all will find peace.
Hinduism actually supports the Big Bang theory and Space-time dilation, ask any devout Hindu and they'll tell you that.
Basically, I've studied India all my life. And your comment is stupid, India could do with less Christianity/Islam, two religions that did not enter India peacefully. India never had any anti-science period, where Christianity and Islam killed people who denied their holy books, because Hindus actually have a God of education, Ganesh, and you must study in order to worship him.
Also, Chrisitianity has the crusades and inquisitions, Islam has their bloody conquests with religious cleansing, what did the Hindus do?? NONE of that.
Please, study India, visit the damn place if you like. Just don't post stupid comments like Hinduism is backwards. It is perhaps the most progressive religion I've ever studied in my life. I personally, just can't believe it with all their Gods (though most Hindus believe there is only one God, that manifests itself into billions of entities), nonetheless, if you've studied enough history, you'll realise that the most mainstream religion depends on geography, where you are, and the time, if you're in pre-0BC Persia or Greece, everyone's Zoroastrian and Hellenistic. If you're in 2000AD Persia and Greece, everyone is Muslim and Christian, because the Muslims and Christians killed them all, raped their women and enslaved their healthy strong children.
Yunpeng Liu
Man.. thats total shit!!
I m from india, i m a brahmin by birth and if i had such liberties i wouldn't b fucking up my time on youtube.. I have never even heard of such incident. The Caste System still lives among remote rural areas, who r too stubborn to change. Rest of india has gone beyond it, I really wonder what else wrong u have been teached by ur teachers.
Being Brahmin gives you no edge.. there r brahmins who r poor, uneducated, or in jails for crimes. just like any other person would have been in their place.
China has won this race already hands down!!!
Deuces Bitches
+GorgeousGabbe lol
yeah China All the way
arise arise arise
there is no race dude...such idiot comparison is a shame on us...india is really a joke...lots of shitty places...you might not agree...go there and check out...and by the way...democracy does not lift people out of poverty....
I am a Chinese, I think the biggest problem in India. Is their caste system. And the low efficiency of the western democratic political system. Caste system makes their social polarization, people can not put their power in one place, resulting in a more unfair society than china. Obvious Western democratic system is not suitable for use in a country with an economy and the quality of the population is less advanced. In fact, when the western advanced countries in the industrial revolution, their system is not a democratic system. Both China and India have brilliant ancient times. In 1960, our economy and infrastructure were the same.
I hope Indian and Chinese will be friendly to each other, using their wisdom.
A sensible and rewarding reply. You are a good person my friend.
China is racing with USA, not India. The author of this chip is still in his naive dream.
USA did not gave a fuck about you untill 90's...what you guys did was brilliant and needed to be appreciated..
INDIA = IRELAND
David Dreyer America glorified the Chinese in our movies with Jett Li and Jackie Chan They are usually the heros. We have a lot of Chinese-Americans that are very happy in the USA.
Hopefully we won't have a social credit score like China. I know the government will strike against you if you speak badly about your country and don't show patriotism
i am living in china from two years. and i amazed to see what china has achieved. there is huge gap between china and india. in my opinion china is 10 times better than india. i am a student and studying in china with hundreds of indian friend. they also told me china is better than india. chinese are making there cities from up to bottom in latest engeneering technique. chinese cities are rising so fast. they have master plan and ability to built a masterpiece. but indian cities are struglleng with proverty and huge traffic problem. i think there is no compare between two countries. china is a far better
Leaders of both India and China should remember the term "Peaceful Coexistence" first came up between India and China.
You are stupid- very very stupid.
iGavin Facts that do not fit your need are stupid,aren't them?
iGavin
just like u are stupid more
FADHILI MTAVANGU
am sorry for insulting u sean pan it was a mistake i wanted to comment to some one else please forgive me
Non of you are coherent, why should I talk to you?
One cannot compare the two countries, you have to remember India, one of the largest economies for hundreds of years, was stripped of it's trade and commerce by the British for centuries, whereas China had no such problem.
India has had to rebuild this economy from scratch post independence.
Now India is developing it's innovation on innovation not copies, and cheap products. I remember the time when Taiwan went the same way, reproducing that same formula works for a while, but then the consumer tends to become wary of the quality and longevity of a product.
Innovation and new ideas is what India has been in the forefront off, and will promote the growth. As with education, well look at the tech industry and the medical circles, India leads in Pharma development and software innovation.
To continue to demolish farmland and move into industry causes more conflict within the economy of a county, as how are you going to feed the population in the long term. This is why democracy, and financial sensibilities are more important than putting an international image of success by rapid building enforced by a government, that sees rents too high for the normal person is not the best idea.
Growing and development takes time and as they say Rome was not built in a day, which China is trying to do, to it's own risk.
India maybe slow, but it does not enforce on people, but encourages people to develop, this is what the world has forgotten, it is the people that make the country, the country do not make the people.
Thanks Mr. Sunil. Your reply will educate and think twice before others
commenting on India in any respect. Well done.
I believe India and China have a nice future, but both the two countries still have a long way to go.
21 RedSox China is much better than India! Trust me. China will be the strongest country around the world in ten years if the political system is stable.
indias rural can be compared to africa only...................................
worse, India has worse infant mortality rates than some sub-saharan african country. Because at least in those african countries, outside charity helps them, where as India when outside money comes, it gets embezzled instantly.
walle1999 Yeah. But Indias food is better.
walle1999 If you can't handle spicy food, don't say any thing about it; you have no qualification to.
*****
Indian food is far from spicy
walle1999
I wonder what type of Indian food you ate. Or maybe you are accustomed to spicy food. I really don't know. But every Westerner I know agrees that Indian food is spicier than Western food (in general, there is spicy Western food and sweet Indian food as well)
china is smart, India is smart too, But India having religion issues, China not
HalloweenNobody Doesn't differ much from US lol, but I totally agree with both of you
You are exactly correct..
i usually dont comment,but allow me to highlight some facts about india , many people here seem to be ignorant about india , if china can do in 20 years , india too can do it in next 20 years , dont forget china and india were almost same in 1990's with respect to economy , living standards , poverty , literacy , everything. india got culture which it preserves , unlike china who is losing on this by betting on money , eventually if this trends goes on , like most chinese people here comment , - then chinese people will end up - working extra hours to pay bills / fill gas in car and again pay bills to work even more extra hours , you cannot eat money ! and this is what india do not desire! we are free people , our govt. may be corrupt , but it does not kill its own citizens like chinese govt. did in 1989 in tianmen square by using battle tanks and assault rifles on people and kids ,battle tanks are to protect people and i can clearly see many chinese educated ignorant people who comment here seem to support such autocracy, and i am glad to inform this is what indian govt. is not capable of doing in a million years ! so good luck to china if they want money at cost of fundamental rights , even USA , they developed un-constitutional zones which ripped off fundamental rights of its citizens, i mean does today's obama govt. question the first independence draft prepared by thomas jefferson in 1800's? and most indians would agrre with me that - indians dont want to be top of world , we just want to be happy , thats it , so good luick china and USA with all your money talk and richness , also until recently land was govt, property in china , so basically if you want to build a road in china , govt, kust storms in people home and tell them to get out and they build roads instantly , but govt. here in india takes people permission to build roads , and thats called civilization if some one is educated here ! but on the other hand let me also tell you people some notable achievements despite of all these hurdles- india has 3 aircraft carriers (1 more developed indigeniously , now undergoing sea trials), china has none , china builds fighter jets indigenously but engines are built under license from russia , china does not own fighter jet engine ,india built own fighter jet engines and fully indeginous aircrafts , also built indeginoues combat fighter in sevice called LCA tejas fully indian except some avionic subsystems from israel, china still developing J- 20 that too with russian engine, and has no indiginous technology to built fighter jet , only build engines in china under license from russia , india indigenously built submarines which also have nuclear capablities ,china does not even have subamrines with deployed nuke bombs, meaning india can launch nuclear bombs from submarines (& our missile like agni 5 can reach beijng even if they launch from delhi, just imagine if we fire nukes by BRAHMOS from submarine from south china sea which has best accuracy till date of +_ 2 metres and it also flies with close proximity to ground as low as 2 metres so that enemy radar cannot detect it , and hits target within 5 seconds , its on of the best missile develped whereas china nuke bombs are shit ! yeah okay big loads , but takes time to reach delhi and also highly inaccurate about 100 m here and there , dont believe me google it ! )and indian submarines got stealth tech. which cannot be detected as of todays technology (since it has stealth technology and no technology developed till today to detect stealth), india got worlds fastest cruise missile called - brahmos developed with russia on 50-50 parity basis, russia india also makind the best fighter fifthe generation jet now called sukhoi/HAL FGFA which wil be best fighter , yes ! better than USA F - 22 raptor , india also develping AMCA (advanced combat fighter which will be first of its type delivered around 2022), fifth generation fighter jet, india sent successful mission to mars , china has not !, indian space programs till date got 80 % success rates , like many nations including USA , china,japan,russia sent mission to moon , indias only 2nd mission to moon discovered water on moon , forget china - not even usa did that ! so india has also achieved phenomenal success inspite of all problems , now some people may argue here that - india must feed its hungry people first then go for mission to mars , i also felt same way - but then i realised our PM words - to feed poor you need people - and for people to be there - you need national security - which comes from investing in defence - thats why india invest so much in defence , millitary,air force,navy , so basically india battling with poverty and development (its called R&D) at the same time , and thats commendable , whereas china only best at copying things , today china fears indian navy , we have hold over china oil supply - which is directly through indian ocean , so dont indulge in fights , india for one has always taught the world - yoga , peace , satyagraha , never invaded any nation in history of thousand years , but all this gave wrong message to world , hence , we suffered a lot in hostory - separation from pakistan , bangladesh, POK kashmir , aksai china, fought 5 wars till date with pakistan & 1 with china , but now india learnt it lessons bigtime from history and hence today is the biggest arms importer of arms and defence technology and also one of the biggest producer of arms and defence tech. , you know what - in 1970 india urged in UNO that nuclear weapons be abolished and destroyed , and guess what UNO council let indian PM down , so india was basically forced to adopt the nuclear bombs and hence we did nuke test in 1971 , so dont point out at india , india alwys been peacefull nation .. and will want to be so for ever in future unless national integrity is compromised ! and about india china - rich and poor - i say indians would like to live and die as they wish , no one question it and democracy gives us that , unlike chinese autocracy where common man not allowed to speak about any wrong doings of govt. and if any politician/minister is caught doing corruption(the ferrari case) the minister is hanged without proper and fair trial ! indian laws taked years to give result but i am happy that it does not punish innocent or give proper punishment as given in the law and constitution , yeas india got largest written constitution and law book , ask law attorneys in your nation who come to india to learn law ! unlike the british or US or chinese judges/juries where 10 juries decide the punishment and decide wheter its criminal act or not .also , indian film industry (bolywood forms only 20 %) is biggest and largest film industry in the world - yes like 3 times bigger than holywood ! i am lucky to be born in india i would like to be born/re-incarnate for next 10 lives even IF it has to be in slums which are free & lively in spirit and mingle to bolywood music than being born in lifeless skyscrapers of shanghai and beijing where humans are machines and dream about money , eat money , and god knows may be even sleep with money , i dont talk rubbish like this but some comments here made me do this ! opologies again if anyone felt my language was offensive ....i feel instead india & china got million things to learn from each other , and we must concentrate on that rather than fighting youtube war ! and please do write to me at wadjevishal@yahoo.com, if you got anything more to share knowledge on , i am all ears to share knowledge and make friends, even if they are chinese , lol ....
Vishal Wadje
India face terrorist problem as well problem from Pakistan, But China Not,
teror insurgency is fully under control , but , however , yes , i have to agree that - india has oo deal with hostile neighbor as pakistan , and i think china has even a biiger threat than terorism in india , eror attacks unite people - whereas in china there even bigger threat - tibet ,
then worst of al lis - income inequality - china ranks in top 5 nation among majot nations for income inequality , there is huge probeem of economic and regional disparity within china itself - west chinese regions feel left out as chinese govt. focuses on east coastal stated to develop. paying much less focus on west regions .
China opened up markets in 79, India did in 91. With a leverage of English, India did race ahead if you go year by year. For India, its a long way to catch up with China. But i am sure, it definitely WILL. I dont see a war. I see a regional partnership which would be the basis of next great dominance of Asia.
The difference between China and India is what the government allows you to see. You see in India there is press/media freedom and they report the very worst and the best, the government can't really regulate it(yes I'm not oblivious to corruption and government influence). In China, the government controls the media, don't kid yourselves China has a substantial poverty issue but you don't hear about it nearly as much because its against what the government wants the world to see. Now no doubt India's problems are larger than China and democracy is chaotic and corrupt, but to say India won't ever be near China or its a joke to compare India and China is kind of short sighted.
***** Actually according to the IMF the average income per capita is $5400 in India and China is $10000. According to the international poverty line 20-25% of people in India are below that according to different sources. For China, less data exists, no doubt, but according to the CIA factbook about 15% live under the poverty line. Now granted the poverty line is only $2 per day so thats very low but I never denied India's problems are bigger, just said China has their share of problems too but no one talks about them because there is no press freedom and a lot of propaganda, no denying that.
***** What's Dem? I think you mean Damn. What are you trying to prove, I already told you India's problems are bigger.
***** Nah there's plenty of organizations that can do a good job of reporting problems in China ranging from government control, corruption, poverty. Just ask the Hong Kong protesters.
***** Nah it just shows how much they love Beijing lol
Actually, it's the other way around. I've read the Chinese English language press and it's not what you think. I've also traveled in China and again, you're exaggerating. India cannot solve its problems by feeling competitive. Not controlling your population can be catastrophic.
if you want to be rich,you should build the roads first.....this is our chinese old saying.
+Han Lee 要致富，先修路这是真理
+MANOHAR A L yet Indians still refused to build the most essential things for its economy and people.
@MANOHAR A L you gorrila face
Religion was not mentioned. It is the one thing that will pull India down.
rmwtsou Atheist countries have historically done horribly. See Communist countries. Pathetic.
我发现外国人很爱对比中印。。。你妹。。。别拿一线城市对比，拿县城对比孟买我觉得基础设施都能完胜。。。。印度那叫一个乱啊。。。
This was made in 2006. They seriously need to do a follow up in 2014. Its quite telling what the following 7 years have done.
China looks like a country from the future to me ( order and discipline thanks to their government ). Nobody is even close... India ? diverse but unorganized, which is a shame...
Shouldn't the focus point be "democracy" vs "despotism"? Real democracy only comes when people are not struggling with hunger and death. Only when people are healthy and wealthy, they will think about changes, and make changes come true. You will only think more and catch up with or to a higher level once you don't have to worry about starvation. Comparing with the despair woman in India and the dissatisfied man who was forced to move to urban house in China, their anger or dissatisfaction are different.
I am Chinese, I love India! Hope that China and India do not believe in the western media!
India's Economy is moving in every direction except for forward
Lol... India winner over time??? Lets remember that India is not some average sized country its 1 billion + population , it will take well over a hundred years to catch up at this pace.
Heres something to add to your point, in the last 30 years Indian economic growth lifted about 300 million people out of poverty. Great right? But at the same time about 350 million were born into poverty, although the % of the countries' population in poverty has reduced, the absolute number of people in poverty has increased. Without population control, India will collapse onto itself because even as of now, their economy can't produce enough jobs for its youth, yet they continue to reproduce like crazy.
We focus on quality rather than quantity that's the point...
Why the Indian guy he interviewed is a well educated guy, but the Chinese guy he interviewed is just an ordinary guy? And then he compared the innovation! It's an unfair comparison!
I think India should competition with Pakistan … not china… because Chinese even care about indian… curry is more fit Indian ....
ye wenbin India should solve the basics first, like slums, pollution, caste system, superstitions and many others and forget about bullet trains and space programmes. Even India built the fastest train in the world today, people would still see India as a country with filth and poo. Why is India always want to compete with China? It should start small. It can even compete with Singapore, where many Indians flock there to work as cheap labourers.
John Simon Go make a video lto boost your self-esteem, ike many Indians have been doing named "Why China Hates India" or "Why India Is Better Than China", because Chinese likes Bollywood, Chinese like curry, India has the US as its master, Indians face no prejudice in China because the Chinese are scared of Indians, India has more elephants than China, All Indians can speak English because they have been colonized before, ...
Doyan Yekimgoska which shithole of a country do you come from?? European poop country?
I am an Eskimo who lives in an igloo.
Doyan Yekimgoska no wonder... You worry about your igloo you iceman... Don't bother yourself with powerful nations that has nothing to do with you.
Funny why we seldom or never at all see the titles like "USA vs Europe, Europe vs Japan or USA vs Australia".....?
because they westerns want we asians hit each other
So better we prepare such documentary and show them.
Remove this video. India should be compared to Africa. This video is a gigantic insult to China.
+Michael Tsang Africa is not a country, so how can a country (India) be compared to a continent (Africa)...
Antoine Dupuy India has never been a superpower and never will be. China has been prosperous many times in the past. When have you heard of Ancient India? Never. Ancient China such as the Qing Dynasty, Song Dynasty, etc, have all been major Chinese industrialized powers in the past and were the most advanced at their times. Countless of inventions were made by the Chinese. I can't even recall anything that were invented by India.
If you think that poor and backwards India can rise, you are one misinformed CIA-troll.
Antoine Dupuy When was the last time India was a superpower? I don't remember anytime at all. How about China? China has been superpower during the Song Dynasty and Qing dynasty.
You're such an idiot. I don't want to waste my time with someone like you who don't give any examples.
Antoine Dupuy So, what have those empires accomplished? I don't they were of any significance.
Just the Qing Dynasty along can eat all those Indian empires for breakfast and not become full yet.
Antoine Dupuy Provide me a source that shows anything that the Indian dynasties have achieved. Don't just talk rubbish out of your mouth without good evidence, you fucking troll.
One of best documentaries I have watched. Good analysis
I am a Chinese, I think India is a superpower, China is a third world country, China needs more assistance from the world, trust me!
In 2017, you can see how sadly off this narrative is. This document was produced in 2006, eleven years ago!
Long live our friendly Indian comrades!
There is no Race between India and China, We are going to be the best of Friends and let our Huge populations live in peace and Prosperity and help the world.
India is moving fast, but seriously though... Comparing cina to India is a joke
BBC报道节目真会选题材，印度串个珠子就创新了？中国也有创新不去拍。报道中国哪个方面都要往一党专政上扯。还有，让我们跟日本韩国台湾比也行啊，跟阿三比？也就阿三自己喜欢跟我们比吧？Who care!
yes !!!!!!!!!
就是，32个赞
BBC一貫的作風嘛，這幾年跟在山姆大叔後面開始混不好了。可能過十幾年BBC會180度大轉彎過來舔你的屁股。。。。。。
别这么说 咱们国家和阿三其实没有真正矛盾，应该团结起来。唇亡齿寒
great video
great video. really interesting one. learned a lot from it. thank you BBC
Indian English is great, the British left the language, but it took away the wealth of India, filling it
have you heard how Indians speak English?
John Smith hey for your kind information INDIA/ HINDUSTAN / BHARAT is multilingual country and we have 22 national languages including English and we speak and respect it better than any other country in the whole world.
Namita Barthwal i already watched "funny English teacher in India"...average Indians in the North only speak Hindi & broken English or Gujerati with broken English...Southern Indians do not even want to speak Hindi...22 languages from 22 different ethnics...no 1 single Indian person speak all the 22 languages, u stupid boaster!!!!! the most one Indian person could speak is only 3 languages,which is his own ethnic language,Hindi if he living in the North & English with thick & funny Indian accent...and for the South every single person from Tamil Nadu speaks Tamilan & funny English...an India person's maximum ability is only speaking 3 languages not 22 languages u shameless Indian deceiver!!!!
both are great civilization.
I'd vote for China, until India stops bullying Pakistan. After that, I will support them equally for world prosperity :p
Ri ju that's what your jingoist media tells you.
The lack of freedom in China is really exaggerated by the West, I am an ABC and I lived in Australia all my life...when I go to China for a few months I could barely feel how my freedoms are being restricted...probably because politics is my least concern, and I'm sure that's the same for the 1.3 billion Chinese people out there. Politics is almost like a television show they watch on TV - it's what they talk about but they don't really want any involvement, they all want a good life, and they seem to be having it. In China's middle class today, the wealth gap seems to be giving people less freedom than the government.
China and India are brothers and sisters.
India and China still have a long way to go. The ruling class and the upper middle class in both countries are benefiting from the substantial economical growth they have experienced in the past 20 years.
However, their are still millions up millions of people in both those countries earning less than a dollar a day just as one example; of the many socio economic problems faced by these two countries.
My country may be unlawful, corrupted,poor,uneducated or whatever. .but look the growth in these conditions. .images if we can grow in such vulnerable situation so fast ... then if we overcome this problems...we will be way ahead of world ..
Poverty is not Democracy nor Communism.
How funny... Democracy is putting progress in a pause, while Communism is thriving...
Democracy is chaotic and corrupt in its infancy. Go check American history, 70years in their existence they were killing each other in civil war. Now that was a different time no doubt, but India is changing over the past 15-20yrs.
India is a far more democratic and diversed society than China, it has better eduction, media, and innovation. Its weakness is also these: there is no synergy that you feel that can sweep away obstacles like China does, synergy is very important in growth (even in dictatorship). The very poor or even devastating infrastructure in India is also caused by such freedom, and the wealth of India lays in some private people and company. The Indian government is not powerful and rich.
China is totally on the other side, for very long time people are trained to think like one (even until I was young in the 80s and early 90s), China is not a democratic country but it's a lot more democratic than it used to be! You can talk about loads of stuff that 20 years ago you will go to jail for! China has that synergy like a juggernaut! Politics is above everything in China, government holds all resources and power, everytime they throw one card out, there is surge of growth like earthquake, they still has loads of cards to play. Chinese government is rich! When needed, they can throw out 600-700 billion USD cash for investment, and do it again in few years when necessary, no country can do that today! And that's why China is moving like a juggernaut.
Both China and India is moving very fast and to a bright direction, and there are many changes happening within. China is turning into dealers/buyers/investors than producers (cost is getting too high), the income has to come from other sources. India still has large pool of way cheaper labor forces, I think India will remain as producer and enjoy the profit it makes and attract more investors for such purpose even Chinese investors.
I think China is really on the edge or brink of major change, in the next 10 years, Chinese export will steadily decrease while imports surge, Chinese needs to learn and execute investment wisely. Production in China will remain mostly for domestic demand. This shift is deceisive for China for its future income.
India on the other hand, needs to focus on its synergy, sharpening its infrastructure (which is the main obstacle now) for further growth, do sth with cast system, give people a better chance. But I think India is not facing its fatal change now, the country will keep its track for some times in the future and keep income growth.
As the last gentleman mentioned, 40% of the world doing good will somehow help the rest 60%. I really think European shattering economy and US debt surge (now over 17 T UDS) will be eased from this. And both Europe and US will be once again economically viable (income bigger than cost).
i don't think Indian has better education than China. Not saying China's education system is any better; I think they are equally bad. But China's academic pressure ensures more students who are better educated, but also more depressed.
I was expecting a racist trash talking of two ancient Asian cultures but I am pleasantly surprised. Very informed, very graphic visual feast in first person mostly. You can almost feel the inherent national pride bubbling beneath the conversation with both people as well as their competitive hardworking nature. Great work!
China is a adaptive country they will modify there policy but indian democracy is the obstacle .
its too old.china changed totally every five year
definitely India will be the No.1 in the world in the long term future
why, in mental illness?
No pill could cure u. Walking ur road like others say ... okay? Useless argue here.
thanks for your concern, wish you get well soon..
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programme_for_International_Student_Assessment
I know this statistics already, what you trying to say? please go ahead..You better search other youtube videos on discussion.. Indians dont focus of mugging-up books like you..Indians are innovation and creative based, Chinese are imitation (copy) based. Showing this statistics not going to help any body because if a country really makes progress, socio-economic should together go up.. In China's case not so, it is just their propaganda to bloat numbers here and there and show them as rock-stars..Again explain why only 16% chinese go abroad return if your country is a shining super-power and better than USA which you try to claim..
great question..
i thought indians already got owned by whites, you know thanksgiving.
India cannot develop with undeveloped thinking.
indian democracy = slow & steady growth. china's communism = fast, forced growth. both have their own advantages & disadvantages.
you should learn human socio-economic development history - there is little correlation between a democratic model and economic development.
In fact all autocratic government would develop much faster and better than democratic ones, NONE of the modern day "champions of democracy" were remotely democratic during their economic development. the US/UK developed way before they adopted universal sufferage and equal rights to all races (still a problem in 2014 US).
....u are fcuking stupid..India is a fucking joke country AND THE MOST CORRUPTED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD. INDIA IS A LOT WORST THAN CHINA. CHINA'S GDP IS 4 TIMES THAN INDIA'S GDP. CHINA NOW HAS FULL INFRASTRUCTURS ...INDIA ONLY HAS 27%...POOR INDIA
SSmart PHilip hey u, what you know abt china, the biggest country of the world? you idiots only go and walk in selected cities and go blah blah over it. Why never a siongle Video of region connecting to Russia or other parts of the world? always Shanghai and selected cities and u blind eye person, just go and check wikipedia which is most corrupted country of the world.. in china, just go and try to open ur web site and then say here. Baby, u r all controlled there.. so, shut ur big and loud mouth here.
Prashant Mathur
Indian currency was stable? hahahahahahahahahaha... thats a good one. India currency depreciated 40% in 2011 - 2012, wiping out 2 years of nominal economic growth.
there is something known as Market data, go and study first then open ur shit filled mouth here.
I am a Chinese from mainland China, after reading some of the comment below, I can not help myself to blame the id 台灣祖國...... why are you so radical... humility is the traditional virtue of Chinese. we like all our neibours and we only compare with someone who harmed us in the history, India is not included. Actually, Chinese people's self-confidence is increased rapidly, but we just discuss with other Chinese, we never showed any aggressive attitude in thousands years just like we never sailed thousands of kilometers over the sea to invade other countries.... Remember, China will always rise peacefully.
China and Indias destinies are intertwined and both are the biggest force for good in the 21st century. Best of luck to both our countries.
一個會公然把强姦案
受害者
駡作"婊子"的國家...
單憑這個就可以讓我先鄙視一下吧...
The fact is, there is no way for some journalists of BBC, even with the help of some external experts, to be able to figure out the real detailed capabilities of countries as HUGE and COMPLEX as China and India. My guessing is that BBC already HAD a point of view in mind before going to China and India, and their reporters simply PICK things they want to, in order to substantiate or imply their point of view.
Unfortunately, the truth is, China produces basically EVERYTHING. One can hardly list all things China produces, and maybe trying to list things China cannot produce is possible: big commercial plane, super carrier, Saturn-V-size rocket, what else?
And innovation is still not as good as some western post-industrial countries, which is quite normal, but everywhere. Probably the scale of innovation of China is dimmed by its massive industrial production? Or simply BBC reporters intentionally neglect all the fancy stuffs within those Chinese mega cities like Shanghai, Beijing, HongKong, Shenzhen, etc? Or simply they lack language skill or culture background to be able to find these innovation.
In a word, this vid worth a watch, but it is ugly biased.
Attention: everything above is for questioning BBC of distorting truth, but not for belittling India, another great nation as China is. The thing is, as two of the world most populous developing countries, these two countries don't want to indulge themselves into the western-designed "China vs India" mentality trap. Working together, these two countries have a huge synergy to burst. After more than 200 years of western world domination, it's time Asia's turn again.
Just curious. did the journalist understand Chinese and Indian languages??
fully agree with your point !!!
一看这纪录片中的陆军军装，绝对是06年前的拍的旧纪录片，现在军装都是07年新发的军装。。。大陆经济建设没有长期接触过是根本不知道建设速度，三五年就能完成国外一二十年的基础建设量，这一点都没有夸大。我在北京呆了五六年，等回老家时候，作为一个从小长大上学的地方，连街道都不认识了，城市格局完全变化，三，五年巨变在中国正常不过。。
看到外滩和陆家嘴的样子基本就是10年前了，现在中央帝国把印度落的更远了
wang J 是的 三年时间南宁琅东新区几乎从无到有 而且还有五象新区最近建得更高大上（吸引万科 恒大 华润 绿地）现在在国外留学担心的就是 桂林发展太快 回去时把儿时的一些记忆给弄没了 想想其实还是伤心居多~
片子里印人度不是说3或5年超过中国吗?BBC的英国傻子们,用他们的偏见编造的新闻和报道可是多的是了.当然香港的英国遗奴还是很愿意相信的.
wang J 话说传说中的自由媒体给外国人洗起脑来还是蛮叼的~
wang J 我长大的这二十多年几乎一年一个样，确实不夸张
I am soooo proud to be a Chinese!
That Chinese soldier playing with his hat in the end of this video is cute. LOL
China is clearly ahead of India because the country is a nation, with one common language and tradition. India is the remants of empire that is trying to hold itself together without any emperor and while India calls itself a democracy it is basically a federation of tribes in political practise.
Too many of our western political experts who are speaking about China, USSR and former “communist” countries are constantly embarrassing them selves as complete ignorants on the matter. It is not enough read media to gain some knowledge, it is absolutely necessary to study profoundly the political history and political philosophy in order to understand meaning of basic words such as Socialism and Communism and not to forget Capitalism.
Accepting populist labelling of each of these three words means making absolutely crucial mistake and present yourself as complete ignorant. That kind of populism will probably work in pub or in some private circle of equally thinking ignorants.
First of all, each of systems has its theoretical - scientific explanation and they are absolutely different from populist descriptions. Let me give you very quick precise theoretical descriptions:
Capitalism is a political system where minority rules majority on a pretext of democracy which is farcical as no one government is asking population for their opinion even about vital and for their life crucial decisions. Government is in a hands of minority corporate representatives, and all they do is to protect and serve to this minority. Population is left behind in poverty and ignorance.
Socialism is a political system which has main purpose to transform unjust capitalist system towards just political system called communism where in theory people would be treated equally and there would be no material differences between them. Socialism as such can arise only when capitalism reaches its top (imperialism) and antagonism amongst ruling party and people would reach its point. Socialism does not require revolution and is actually unwelcome as causes wide destruction.
Socialism is a system in which are merging capitalism inequality and political equality tendency. That basically means that in socialism there is still private property but it is getting more and more controlled by society and through generations it will de-solve as the society will develop towards equality. Private property will be more and more controlled by the people and the distribution of profits will become more and more fair as the system will ensure that those who work and create profit have larger share than those who claim profit in name of capital (which was always created by other working people). This process takes centuries and is democratic without any trace of violence.
Communism is only theoretical end line which in reality cannot be reached but serves as a beacon towards which humanity should drive.
Of course these descriptions are very short and not scientific, they are basic to understand that so called experts are speaking about things that they do not understand.
China is in reality country with real socialist political system where private initiative is parallel to state supervising system. This system prevents private interests to over-exploit workers and to amass huge profits by stealing profits created by workers. No system is just only that socialism is more just than capitalism and it will become more and more just as the time passes by and by democratic regulations reduces percentage of profit grab by capitalists.
Making comparison between India and China is pretty naïve. I have been in both countries for a quite lengthy time and know that India is that far behind China that it will need 3 - 4 decades to reach nowadays China.
In 1978 I spent 8 months in China on business and if I compare then China with nowadays India than I would say that there you are. Since then China did quantum leap and reached absolutely impossible level of development. I can assure you that if 1978 China would be capitalist democracy as India, than you can bet your last penny that today there would be no difference between them. Only thanks to real socialism and above all official collapse of cold war and disintegration of USSR, no one really paid any attention to china and every one was expecting as there are still some who still believe that China will collapse at any moment.
As China was left undisturbed and all attention was turned towards Russia no one realised that the dragon form far east started to fly, and how. Nowadays there is no neither military let alone economic power which can press China. China and its socialism is future, no matter if you like it or not.
I recently traveled thru China and agree with your comment. There is no such thing as a "Western Expert" lol. China is the country of this century and the US should again make peace with them as we did in the 1970s.
Blaster53 i really agree with you ,i am a Chinese who live in Europe ,as i see Europe is in chaos now ,even paris is dirty everywhere ,i was born in a Village of China in 1978,i can see What wonderful apartment my Village people are living now ,order And clean And big park as daily places .but western people still think China is backward ,actually European is losing their superoity day by day !
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Clearly there is not even a semblance of attempt to avoid bias in this British journalist who obviously spins every word to favor his former colonials.
thanks a lot plesae bring more videos like this
Hopefully I'll see who gets the upper hand in my lifetime though I'll be old by then... [personally I think China will get there first but in the end, in the long run India will triumph although it might take a century more... ]
I like Indian films, beautiful dance and cool song. The films in China like rubbish, cuz some films i can't even understand the meaning...
film is not everything
pixelhunter97 NO，not everything, so I'm just talking about film...
China makes lame films which is known to everyone even in China. But it doesn't change the fact that India is the shithole of the world.
Don't spread hate. We respect india
In Bombay now, China is ahead now definitely
India's growth is chaotic, spontaneous, from bottom to top, despite the government. China's growth is organized, streamlined, regulated, top to bottom, by the government. China has a huge trade surplus with the west especially the United States. It means China's surplus is in U.S. Treasury bonds, government bonds, U.S. Dollars but that is exactly the problem. We are actually selling our fiscal deficit, our Federal Reserve paper to the Chinese who are ACTUALLY giving us their goods, their finished products and other services in exchange. It's like worthless selling sand at a premium on the seashore. If they are stupid enough to buy our fancy paper...well, we ain't complaining. The Unites States' willingness and ability to honor China's surplus is at best wishful thinking and best case scenario, but a highly unlikely scenario. Those of us that live in the United States know that very well. China can only use part of this trade surplus to import, basically means import little and pretend it still has huge purchasing power. And by systematically undervaluing their own currency against the US Dollar they are under the impression that their trade surplus is getting that much bigger. Because if it really wanted to utilize 100% of this purchasing power, they are looking at War with us. Short of that there's no other threat they can use and we know very well that they will not want to go to war because that would only mean self-destruction and nothing achieved but everything lost. So in the short term and the long term, for a little bit of bargaining power here and there they've hedged their entire future on the premise of the American economy one day magically turning around, the entire fiscal debt wiped out and Uncle Sam is "rich" one again, just like the good guy winning at the end of every movie.
China's huge and unreal trade surplus is actually a toxin, like spoiled milk. You can taste some of this spoiled milk of your finger just to impress the onlooker with the gallons of milk that you have in reserve, but try drinking a cupful of this milk, it will give you food poisoning, trying consuming a liter and you will end up in the E.R., try gulping down a gallon and you will be dead.
JACKSON, Mississippi. USA.
And how much has the Indian rupee fallen in the international forex market as you were speaking...Yeah, China is so stupid that the RMB currently stands closest as the next international reserve currency that replaces the US dollar!
"China can only use part of this trade surplus to import, basically means import little and PRETEND it still has huge purchasing power." Not everything has to be imported as China is the world's biggest manufacturer, with the abundance of her own resources herself! And I am sure you know how cheap she is, thus the huge purchasing power! :)
So, China being the largest markets in the world for cars, internet, rails and hi-speed trains, renewable energy, steel, mobile phone, f&b and etc. all meant nothing to you? And I couldn't even mention all...She having some of the world's largest internet, telecommunications & its equipments design and manufacturing, computer, banking, oil, steel, ship building, design and construction, train building, port & airport management companies and corporations, is as good as an illusion to you?! Ranked 2nd as the country with the most billionaires also meant nothing to you? Chinese tourists are now the "darling" of the world! All these while still managing to maintain as the world's fastest growing major economy...Everything is hot air or is it your head that is burning?
"Short of that there's no other threat they can use and we know very well that they will not want to go to war because that would only mean self-destruction and nothing achieved but everything lost." Speaking of others again... :) Do you have a mirror or, one that is well-polished ? You think China is depending on the "benevolence" of the US? :) You really did think China was dumb, huh? :)
"So in the short term and the long term, for a little bit of bargaining power here and there they've hedged their entire future on the premise of the American economy one day magically turning around, the entire fiscal debt wiped out and Uncle Sam is "rich" one again, just like the good guy winning at the end of every movie." Well, I guess China had no real practical alternative here, due to the USD being an international currency. Besides, China is now the biggest trading country!..
But, anyway in such a case, the US may well lose much more than China, not forgetting that only part of China's trade earnings from the US has been coverted to buying US bonds and treasuries & probably by then, Chinese RMB can out standard the USD being the global currency of choice. Chinese gold reserves can also cushion her from the fallout, being a major, if not the world's biggest gold producer herself.
I can be sure then that the USD will be out of favor as the world's currency and China has no more need for USD reserves, something which will hurt, most of all, the US and some of her closest allies who have all along been the biggest buyer of her bonds and treasuries! Imagine the impact on her goodwill standing in the world! The impact will be nothing short of the financial version of a global Nuke terrorism, the destruction of which on international financial markets will be more than comparable to the combined fallout from the Great Depression and the 2 World Wars! In short, nobody really gains from such an Apocalyptic financial world order!
The US will drag her feet for as long as possible on her debt issue.. In the meantime, China has already gotten more than her "deserved" payback and is edging more and more on the supremacy of the US global financial position :)
Last but not least, you sure had a good sense of humor :) Maybe you should turn in a script to Hollywood? Oops! Sorry I have forgotten it had been "bought over" by China :)
Yi Jiun
yu jin you are too stupid just improve level of your arguements before rising your voice
FADHILI MTAVANGU
I was just trying to make a very technical point to our Chinese friend Mr.Yi but he took it in the wrong spirit. With the trade surplus that China has with the U.S. in terms of buying power, logically it should make their average citizen, not their state but even their citizens, among the wealthiest in the world almost on par with the Saudis or the Swiss but it is not so. They are still among the world's poorest. It's like saying Mr.Fadhili, I have kept lending you millions of dollars at a very interest rate because you keep borrowing from me. So that should make me a billionaire, on paper at least. But that would be true only if Mr.Fadhili has the means and the intention to repay all my debt with the interest accrued. You can keep throwing fancy gifts at me to buy some time. Now what does that make me? A wealthy billionaire or a foolish banker? That's exactly the case of the United States and China. The U.S. keeps telling China, here, take some more of our paper and give us more credit. It's like the story of David and Goliath. China thinks it's the new world Goliath but when Goliath fell to David's little stones, his own weight crushed him to death.
The United States is a great lover but a treacherous spouse. Anybody that has read some history should know.
FADHILI you are like an uneducated, typical, sentimental indian peasant.
iGavin
i know only poor people with nothing as u are can say so then continue u wretch article of no value
India=Old Elephant
China=New Ferrari
No contest
Have you lived,studied or worked in India??
China's total economy is 10 trillion dollars. Its total National debt is 27 trillion dollar. There is no global demand because of ageing population in the world and China is in the edge of collapse. India may be an Old elephant but it will reach its destination slow and steadily.
Abhi Ram
Maybe..but chinese ingenuity/hard work is second to none, incl. western countries
Smart work and patience only works but not hard work. Westerners lack both and Chinese lack patience.
yes i travelled there before...it's really a shit
Mumbai's infrastructure construction and development level is only equivalent to the China three city.
"three city"? Or 3rd-tier cities?
India....future super power..!!
Jeams PawsUpForever yeah,dreaming
India's growth is on the other hand, sustainable. It's much smaller trade surplus is easily manageable or "dumpable". For example, you can easily sell (or spend) $100 (India's) worth of fake currency without a significant risk of being discovered, but if you had to get rid of (or spend) say, $10 million (China's), that's a huge risk with a 90 to 10 chance of being discovered. Your $10 million has now become a noose around your own neck, like a "toxic asset", you can show it off to your neighbor to make him envy you but you can't use it. Like the saying "water water everywhere but not a drop to drink".
And in addition to the figurative $100 India has the advantage of democracy, however detrimental to national growth. The individual is protected, there are labor laws and courts and trade unions, a thousand political parties, decentralization of government, however corrupt.
China can build a bullet train from Beijing to Shanghai in record time, record budget and to perfection. In India, it's government will spend 20 years in just trying to acquire the land needed to lay the railroad tracks from the thousands of land owners. Here, unlike China, the state cannot send a truckload of troops to your doorstep, put a gun to your head and tell you that your land is not yours anymore. In fact, it never was, everything ultimately, even the individual is the property of the state.
Sustainable economy? Well, that is pretty self-denying, isn't it? :) Simply a small chunk of the sustainable portion of the Chinese economy is larger than the whole Indian Economy :)
Is Democracy necessary an advantage? If anything, I think this is a fallacy! Democratic Greece never blossomed into the Roman empire which remains the pride of the Western world until today! Everyone is "worshiping" democracy as the holy grail of sociopolitical systems when it's all just a belief, as illusive as Communist Utopia :)
But the most important thing is, China is not resting on her laurels, saying her system is all perfect and everything...And there is strong demand from the masses and certain quarters of the govt. for some form of democratic reforms (this does not equate to Western style universal suffrage, I'm sure but rather some form of semi-democracy which may just be more sustainably suited to China's long term needs).
Remember, pride often comes before a fall and complacency is the surest sign of ill-afforded pride :)
"And in addition to the $100 India has the advantage of democracy, however DETRIMENTAL to NATIONAL GROWTH. The individual is protected, there are labor laws and courts and trade unions, a thousand political parties, decentralization of government, HOWEVER CORRUPT."
"China can build a bullet train from Beijing to Shanghai in record time, record BUDGET and to PERFECTION. In India, it's government will spend 20 YEARS in just trying to acquire the land needed to lay the railroad tracks from the thousands of land owners."
"water water everywhere but not a drop to drink" - Speaking of others... :)
Even if everything is the property of the state in China, the average Chinese still fares much better than his Indian counterpart, with a higher standard of living in provision of education, income, transportation, healthcare, engineering, housing, and the list goes on...
India and China should not get self-consolation prizes comparing with each other..At least, that's from the Chinese viewpoint - there's simply no sense of achievement and satisfaction :)
I'm just trying to put it in perspective, maybe just the way I see it, not trying to be biased or something. The Chinese people that I've worked with in the U.S. are among the most intelligent, hard working and focused of any linguistic group that I've seen. Not the same with Indians, they may be smart given their advantage with the English language but not very hard working or focused- actually they are lazy.
My concern is not the Chinese trade surplus with the U.S. but the U.S.'s ability to honor that trade surplus. It's like putting all your eggs in one basket and we all here know this is not a safe basket, it's bottom has a invisible but huge hole. We saw that during the housing market crash, it's the middle class, working class and the retired pensioners who were the biggest losers. My uncle is 78, retired, had a comfortable 401K. He lost all his savings and even had to mortgage his house which he eventually forfeited. Instead of publicly protesting, he took a job at Walmart because in his words, you have to eat food in order to live in order to protest. So this is our government's lack of regulation of the Wall Streeters that caused this to our own people, not yet the Chinese.
In India's case, you've heard the saying- one who is down need fear no fall. I mean if you fall from 10 feet you gonna have a broken leg but if you fall from 100 feet you gonna have a broken skull.
And you're right, these too Asian giants should not be trying to get consolation prizes by putting the other down or by comparing, instead should focus on healthy competition and diversifying their economic portfolios, away from the U.S. Treasury/Federal Reserve. Just like China had suggested a new global currency to replace the dollar. Try to gather support for that and get other nations on board. Because our country's habitual accumulation of debt is hurting us more than you can imagine. This is Richard Nixon's sad legacy.
ridiculous. Many peasants in China are hoping for Land expropriation because this is the fast way to become rich. Sure, in the past there are some human rights abuse in land expropriation, but that's just a small portion, and such phenomenon is becoming rare and rare.
Actually, almost every poor peasant has at least a piece of land, while in India most peasants don't own even a piece of land. In India, the land are owned by rich people, which is very different from China.
perikaveera perika, WE are comparing Bloomberg TV is comparing, China and India are not.
India has no chance
Dear Western Countries don't treat INDIA and CHINA as enemey both of us is now going very peacefully and one day we will ahead of the world
Time is always something that is much needed if you want to get anywhere.
Is democracy useful? Of course.
However, democracy needs foundation. Otherwise, it will postpone the development of a country. China has poor democracy base currently. If now the communist party collapsed and two parties show up and hold election, it will be a catastrophe. Just see Thailand now. From my own perspective, India also doesn't own a good democracy base.
What Mainland China should do now is to learn from Taiwan, an area (or country) changing from totalitarian to democracy smoothly.
Btw, east asia, especially the Great Chinese Area, is really a funny place. Taiwan has both democracy and freedom. Hong Kong has full freedom but no democracy. China mainland has freedom, which is limited in some specific are, and has no poor democracy. And North Korea........eh.........nothing to say
are you sure you know what happened in Taiwan? The first elected former leader is in jail. and another one's approval rate under 10%. could you imagine such thing happen in mainland? now you talk funny Chinese area, what do you think of Singapore? Freedom and democracy? LoL
Roy Wang Of course I know what happened there, because most of my family members are Taiwaneses. Tân Tsuí-Pínn is an alarm for Taiwanese democracy. You can't imagine such a young democratic entity doesn't make any mistakes. After the election, Ma Ying-jeou's popularity goes down. This is partly due to rising price of water and electricity and other political issues. From my perspective, Even if Tsai Ing-wen came to power, these problems are also extremely hard to solve. What democracy works now is to give Taiwaneses an lesson, so that four year later they can choose a better politician as their president. Can mainland people choose their leader to solve social problem?
Roy Wang But also thank you for reminding me of singapore, which combines Confucianism and politics. Maybe it's a better for Mainland to learn from.
very funny video, a short history culture like britain try to judge two 4000 years old cluture like china and india. Both Inidan and Chinese know how to live their life in this planet much better than British.
我居然都听懂了！感谢这老美的标准口音！还有我为我的听力感动了！youtube真是个学英语的好地方！i understand what he said! such a good way to practice my english listening!
dilegentelectron wow, oh.
China's innovation is focused on high-end technology, science and technology is the most important, low end manufacturing industry is not important as long as the quality is good.
China s better than India tats the fact theres no point to argue
oh guyz you forgot japan
Japan has peaked, economically at least! :) But, others will never forget their Japanese pickings when the time comes... :)
Japan is already among the top nations!!
I like both countries and both have fascinating cultures and are enriched in extensive and unique history - but if I had to decide which I preferred, I would choose India.
what is the average pay rate in the steel mills for workers ?
谦虚使人进步 骄傲使人落后
india most purest and overppopulated country in world
his lose at all. exept kamasutra =)
No overpopulated countries in the world. Nederlands, south korea, singapore, etc being much more people per kilometer.
UJ00UJ Omit Netherlands (with loads of fertile plains) and Singapore (a city state). I only agree with the South Korean case.
UJ00UJ u see same in nederlands?
AVKtt Nothing better.
UJ00UJ from u pov only. i think u don't want chnge citizenship =)