Aldeigjuborg: The Lost Viking City near Europe's Largest Lake
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Situated between the Republic of Karelia and Leningrad Oblast, lies the largest lake on the European continent. Known today as Lake Ladoga, it was known to the Germans as "Aldoga", and to the Vikings, as Aldeigja. This was the site of a prosperous trade and crafts settlement during the Viking age.
Sources:
Archaeological evidence for Staraya Ladoga - Natalja V. Grigorjeva
In Austrvegr - Marika Mägi
The Emergence of Rus 750-1200 - Simon Franklin and Jonathan Shepard
The Saga of Halfdan Eysteinsson - Translated by George L. Hardman
The Saga of Sturlaug the Industrious - Translated by Peter Tunstall
The Varangians - Sverrir Jakobsson
Viking Period workshop in Staraya Ladoga, excavated in 1997 - Anatoliy N. Kirpichnikov
Viking Rus: Studies on the Presence of Scandinavians in Eastern Europe - Wladyslaw Duczko
#vikings #history #russia
Thank you for another interesting topic.
DENNA TOBAKSVARA SKADAR HALSAN
(As a Russian, this is only words i know in Swedish that written on snus packs).
XAXAXA! Just like in Sweden we say "Ei saa peittää" in Finish. Which means "Can not be covered" written on elements in many Swedish houses.
And "rrø'grød" "må'enmæd" and "li'e ud" is the best Danish I can muster.
As a Dane that plays Tarkov, I'm not repeating any of that beyond a 'Davai' but I must give credit for Sobranie Black Russian - the cigarette that removes radiation in STALKER games - and quite possibly in real life.
Haha! :)
My only Russian stems from and old sign on trains that said
Ni plivat na poll! (maybe somewhat misspellt?)
@@Fistfury42u mean radiators lol
Detta är KVALITET. Som en soon-to-be arkeologi student är denna kanal OVÄRDERLIG. Tack som fan, keep it up💯
Jag håller med. Denna kanalen har ett originellt sätt att redovisa som jag inte sett förut. Mycket intressant och lärorikt
Snälla, bli inte en arkeolog... Det är en kult.
Kolla hur dom behandlar sina kollegor runt om i världen som har olika åsikter om diverse saker.
Ta Jacques Cinq-Mars som ett exempel, han förespråkade att folk fanns i Nord Amerika innan Clovis First.
Mainstream skrattade åt honom, kallade honom galen och idiot, dom smutskastade honom och hans rykte, drog in alla hans finansieringar och han fick mer eller mindre sitt liv förstört.
Dom vägrade att titta på hans bevis. Sen visade det sig att han hade rätt.
Det finns HUNDRATALS liknande historier där folk har fått sina liv förstörda av "kollegor" för att dom förespråkar annat än vad mainstream säger och som till slut visade sig att personen hade rätt i alla fall.
Man tycker att en hel värld inom samma yrke ska lära sig och att vara mer öppna efter alla onödiga attacker men dom gör det inte.
Ska du bli en arkeolog, bli inte som mainstream och ha inga idoler.
Jag har skolat om mig, den där världen är helt absurd och ett hårstrå ifrån att vara en kult.
Säg ett fel och det kommer att hänga efter dig hela livet, du kommer inte att få jobb osvosv. Det hände min kollega och det var därför jag skolade om mig.
Efter 30 år hade han fel EN GÅNG om en site, han trodde en vikingaby skulle finnas där det inte fanns någon och fick sparken av sin chef.
Han gick på tiotals intervjuer och det där felet hängde efter honom som ett mörkt moln, ingen vill anlita honom, hans chef hittade även på en massa lögner om honom för att försvåra hans chans till ett nytt jobb.
30 års erfarenhet utsuddat på grund av ett fel och 150.000:- som mer eller mindre kastades i sjön på grund av hans hypotes.
BLI INTE EN ARKEOLOG.
Very in-depth look at history.
Well.... Yeah, I guess, for TH-cam, but if you want in-depth material, get thee to a library or bookstore.
@@spacelemur7955 Whatever troll.
I settle with "wave"-explanation. I have read that the freshwater lake waves in Ladoga were sharp and more dangerous than the salty waves of seas. Ladoga had its own boat type.
Just last week I was hookedup with reading about this ancient place, as I'm overall mega interested with Finnic peoples histories myself.
Underbart att se att kanalen vuxit på bra, den förtjänar att växa minst tiofaldigt till!
Så kanalen är svensk alltså...!?
Första gången jag stöter på den....bra video👍
Väldigt välgjort. Tusen takk!
Very interesting video.
I would have included Uppåkra in Scania in the list of connected trading points, since it was the largest in one Scandinavia.
Great content👍🇸🇪
I had no prior knowledge of this fascinating archeological hotspot. Thank you for describing it's history so well! The Morrowind soundtrack in the background proves you have good taste! ; )
Thank you for this interesting history lesson! I was looking for information, but found none of such value. Just great!
fantastic and interesting!
Good video as usual 💪🏻
Interesting and well made. Keep it up.
Tell me more about Gnezdovo.
coming in a few months :-)
You forgot Ribe and UPPÅKRA as being important trade centers (and one on Fyn).
interesting, so it seems likely that the slavs burned down aldeigjuborg and expelled the norse and the norse returned with a much larger military force to revenge and to take complete control of an even larger area. sounds similar to what happened in england, at almost the exact same time 865-878, as well. "the great heathen army". considering they expanded east and west at the almost exact same time it makes me wonder if it was a small group of guys behind all this expansion. or if it was like some kind of competitive colonialism between the norse rulers. but it wouldnt surprise me if there were a few key players or maybe just one person that really organised everything more than anyone else, and this guy(s) name have been lost to time. kind of like how arnold rothstein can be said to have started the american mafia turning it from petty street thuggery into highly organized business.
Hahaha there you go with that Solstheim music again! What a sound...
I've swam naked in Laatokka many times, north of the old Finnish city of Sortavala. It's incredibly beautiful, truly pure and sacred water. The Soviet buildings in Sortavala are crumbling grossly and full of mold, because Soviets were imbeciles, while the old Finnish-made wooden structures themselves breathe and are still standing now, in the obvious Classical Russian Style of disrepair, but still, hundreds of years later, superior. Everyone in Russian Karelia knows it's true, with sadness, because they see it everywhere they look.
The depth of the beauty of Laatokka cannot be conveyed in words. If there's any place on earth where the old gods quaff heartily with the new, that's the place. It's truly sinful that the Kremlin hosts it's most horrific torture - prison on the same lake, although not surprising, given what we understand of Communism's disregard for life, sanctity, and beauty. By the way, Beauty _is not_ in the "eye of the beholder," but is objectively true. Or in Russia's case, false.
I am blessed to have had the honor and (I do mean) pleasure to have been washed by the icy waters of Laatokka, literally under circular rainbows.
Sortavala isn’t a Finnish city, it was founded by Russians in 15th century
Yo keep it up! Both your pirate and viking channels are kino
Bra video.
Great content and love the presentation base on facts. Greetings from Montréal !
All The best, Montreal!
Superb!! Kiitti vitusti; tusen tack! This is an opinion, of course, but it has always irked me a little that the local inhabitants have often been left without agency. Not anymoar!
stalin sent all of the natives in (also) this region to the gulags or the front. the same way putler is now emptying out siberia of siberians.
the finnish and baltic borderlands of russia have been russified in the last 100 years by imported russians
Muskovite emperors have always used war to clean out "unwanted" men.
think about it: if the non-russians die fighting for russia, its still 1 less non-russian. its a win-win for putler and the rest of the nazi emperors. hitler did the same
informative documentary
There is probably a reason the region is called "Ingermanland" a mixture between "Ingegerd's land" and "no mans land" in Swedish. I've also heard it called "Ingria".
Novgorod(new built) was called Holmgård(isle-garden) by the vikings. A wild guess was that they conducted "holmgång" there, which is essentially a duel with audience.
Rurik was a viking (of Swedish decent) starting the Rurikovich dynasty in Russia.
Holmgård/Holmgarðr = enclosed isle
Holmgarðir = isle enclosures (plural as in many enclosures on one or many isles).
Is that TES music in the background??
This is so great to listen to, have had 'ancestral memories' of trade routes from Sweden through down to middle east. Before they started all the king hoods during the land of the many kings ....there was busy trade routes, also down through Poland, Rus and many other slavic countries...It was not unusual....would love to sail the same route myself one day, would have been a slow journey but very interesting. People don't realise we have always traveled.....They stopped using this route when the boats was getting bigger, to big to travel along rivers. The longboat was a super ship really, wish they never stopped making them. So the trade along that river more or less disappeared because of this. Shame really. x
Love the choice of music in these videos. Is Elder Scrolls music somehow legally full free-use? Official source to get it legally?
Thanks
thank you very much
Wikingowie dwukrotnie na przełomie VIII i IX w najechali Polskę, założyli osady Truso kolo Elbląga ,Bardo koło kolobrzegu Zasiedlili tez Jomsborg , obecnie Wolin,na wyspie Wolin kolo Świnoujścia.Od wielu lat odbywa się tam doroczny festiwal Słowian i Wikingów,gdzie pokazuje się stare obrzędy,wyjatkowo ciekawy.W ostatnim czasie zastanawiano sie,czy pierwszy hustoryczny król Polski,czasami nie byl wikingiem,tj X wiek.
Mieszko znaczy bjorn takze polacz fakty
We got caught up in some traffic and saw this Slav and Viking festival when we left Germany. Forgot the name of the place. Crazy roadworks made it worse and delayed us.
Wonderful to get content of the Viking connections towards Rus. I think it is undervalued history compared to viking activities in the UK for example. Cheers!
Great video about a part of Scandinavia history that is underreported
@@B_SEP_23_FrancescGarcia is there any harm in having interest to a place, in relatively quite proximity to the "advanced rest of Europe", that still held their own special customs and very different way of life, climate and circumstances? P.S. Karelia/Ladoga isn't in located in Scandinavia, just to nitpick
1:45 - Amber Road in ancient times
Rail Baltic is literally the new Amber Road
: )
You don't mentions the germanic at all. Which was the biggest market of most of the goods in that time. The trade route was so big that it formed the hansa.
Can you tell me anything about the word 'groethe', please? Thank you.
Je kan de groeten krijgen
Groethe = greeting ?
Aldeyjarborg isnt it?
It’s good that the author writes Rus' on the map, and not Kievan Rus, since such a state never existed. Because the term Kievan Rus began to be propagated and used by the communists in the USSR. (Well, Russian scientists started using it formally in the 19th century, but only as a geographical term designating the region around the city, and the communists came up with the idea of calling the state that 100 years later.) 🤩🤩
Lake Ladoga was internal finnic lake, surrounded only by finnic tribes since the bronze age.
But before then, in the early bronze, there was an Indo-European Corded Ware culture, times have changed
Lingustic evidence indicates that the Finno-ugric speakers superimposed themselves on Germanic/Baltic-speaking peoples on teh eastern Baltic shore.
Laatokka, Karjala ja Viro takasin tänne kotiin ;D
Inkeriakin.
No jos tää meno jatkuu ni päästään noistä kohta kinaamaan.
Permissä tavataan
7 millions Slavs live in Ingria, so I wish you good luck trying to assimilate this land back😂
borg while meaning city today really is closer to hillfort or fortress in the time context of aldeigjuborg.
Home of the Maccy ‘G’ 8Bourger Corps.. along with the saxe gotha coburgers and other nimrev rucydal perhaps👀?
Sweden, Norway and Denmark had very different goals in that time. Please state that and where you are from. Oh, you are Swedish.... I heart it now.
Wait at about 6:10 that looks like an ancient Viking motocross track a double or a set of quads HA HA I knew the early Husqvarna`s had an advantage.
One thing to note is that Varangians tend to resemble modern Finns and Karelians genetically meaning that it most likely was native Finnics adopting Scandinavian culture.
Interesting theory. Might be true. However, names of first Ruruikids were indeed Scandinavian: Igor, Oleg, Olga etc
Lite østover-kunnskap i Norge egentlig, vi dro mer vestover selv om mange reiste med svenske "handelsgrupper" øst- og sørover på samme tid 😉
Politisk situasjon i mer moderne tid, gjorde at det fristet lite å kjøre østover.
there was no point for Norwegian go East, unless they wanted glory and wealth :) I know one - Harald Sigurdsson , great man
Aldeigjuborg is not a lost city, it is called Staraja Ladoga today. OTOH, Gnezdov and Birka are lost viking cities.
Gardariki is not 'realm of castles', but rather 'realm of stone walls' Todays Belarus and Ukraine were in the iron ages criss-crossed with stone walls, the traces of which are still to be found...
It is "the realm of enclosures" to be exact. If the enclosures were high walls or not, or what material they were built with is not specified by the word it self. It can be any type of enclosure. Even a low fence made out of wicker work, or any other type of wodden fence, can be called a "gardr" (that is where the modern Swedish words "gård" and "gärde" comes from). The wall around the human world, Midgardr, was made out the eye lashes of Ymir - it was still a "Gardr".
However the settlements along the rivers of the eastern interior were often heavily fortified, not uncommonly with earthwork and timber palisades (at least to begin with, later on even stoneworks), in a way that do not seem to have been very common in Scandinavia. These fortified settlements were known as "Grad" in Slavic language and it still carry the meaning of "city", "castle" and "fortified settlement" in Slavic languages. One can not help to see the similarities between the Norse "Gard" and the Slavic "Grad". Therefor the meaning of the more specific Slavic "Grad" is often used instead of the more generic Norse "Gard" when specifically translating the word "Gardariki".
So "realm of enclosures" or "realm of fortified settlements"...
“Realm of fortified enclosures” …So, basically realm of castles.
That's a nonsence, there little stone walls in 'Gardariki' to be found, because there is little rock suitable for wall buildings.
@@chriswren1825 no, maby look up the definition of castle
@@grandetristesse3370 given the fact Russia is literally the Gardariki of sagas (Ladoga, Novgorod, ect)
But what about...pirates, in Ladoga?
Wait, aren't you the Gold and Gunpowder guy?
The name of Lake Ladoga is actually Laatokka in Finnish and it's always been. The Vikings just turned the word inside out, probably because it was easier for them to pronounce.
"Laatokka" is a borrowing back into Finnish from Slavic "Ladoga", which itself originally came from the older Finnic names mentioned at the start of the video either directly or through the Norse form of the same name.
@@jokemon9547 In other words, it's a Finnish lake, surrounded by Finnish tribes and any name other than Laatokka is just a foreign version of the Finnish original.
@@jannevellamo pronunciation is the only difference really, it is known in linguistics that "T" and "D" commonly change place.
@@mister4701 Finnish doesn't use a lot of D and G, both of which are in the name Ladoga. That means those letters have been inserted into the name by Russians, for whom they make the name easier to pronounce.
@@jannevellamo You forget that the Russians had a written language hundreds of years before the Finns, either way it doesn't really matter.
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The La'dozhka River, not Lado'zhka. Lake La'doga, La'dozhka River (literally - "Little Ladoga")
What do you mean lost I'm literally living here
Like it you don't mention the Nestor chronicle from 1100 about Kive Russ history what is copy from the companion of Ansgar his name is Rimbert (munk about year 845-855 )thinks he from Bremen Germany anyway hi is from time and his writing you stil can read. And he actually tells. the story of Rurik the Russ from today's Sörmland uppland, whay you leve this facts out? Really strange or you have other explanation like to now that. But i like this anyway.
And of course Daner in Danemarka.
So you're saying this is Rightfull Swedish Clay, and that we should enforce Lake NATO?
YES HURRAH LETS TAKE IT
yep , we can send some troops overseas to help you with that in no time . Ingermanland is Sweden . Skal
Suomen muinaishistoria on Euroopan historia 100 linkkiä - Arhi Kuittinen.
Isn’t the Caspian Sea the largest lake?
it's middle East , not Europe
In the iron age and before, even though different "tribes" and populations,
they all lived under the same law.
The "Law for the whole bay",
The Heel Anger Lagu.
Helsinge lagen in now a days Swedish.
When all of these populations spoke variants of "Scandinavian", word used in place of better one.
A language that the old peoples from the Faetr oeyas and Ice land in the 1950:s could have made them understod to.
The "finn ugers" are just a "put together" expression, by the scientists when all other languages and dialects of europe had been structured, organiced and shown developments of.
The rests was the put to a group, though they had less in common than german then had with Swahili!
Laatokka ( luadokka) on itämerensuomea ( karjalaa) ja tarkoittaa "laajaa"
you even got the etymology wrong, Laatokka means vast
You kids figure out with Kazakhs whose is St. Peterburg and Ladoga, because I heard they founded all this stuff and defended Moscow from Napoleon. Nice to see brotherly minds so far from each other.
Getting heavy Lemmino vibes from you. Jagland english best english.
Do birka
I think by produce you mean products, right? Produce is fruit and vegetables.
Hedeby is not in Denmark.
rightful danish territory
@@balticempire7244Nah, op ewig ungedeelt. Keep shopping tho, need dat kroner.
VOLG BOAT MEN VOLGA BOAT MEN
AI is used here, rather than actor’s voices. That should be disclosed.
There is nothing to be disclosed. I do not use AI for any of my content and I have the audio recording files to prove it.
Cute, although the consensus is that the Rus and Varangians were at the time the name of “Vikings” from modern day Sweden. It’s a nice little grey propaganda piece nevertheless.
Sadly slav in Swedish means both slave and Slavic, and empiric evidence in modern day Sweden confirms the slavery of Slavs from that time (they weren’t considered equals).
Another point, those burial mounds around the area are actually typical of the previking period in eastern Sweden. You could always visit gamla Uppsala and see for yourself.
ah yes swedes exclusively invented the idea of burying people in mounds, pyramids were also brought to egypt by the aztecs etc
Поэтому викинги нанимались на работу к нашим князьям?)
The Finnish name and your pronouciation of it sounds more lie Aaltojoki IE. wave river.
IRL Esgaroth
imagine having lithuanian lore amirite?
Baltic sea real name: mare suebicum - SUEBI - SUEVI
I dont think is europes largest lake, since europe borders the worlds larges lake... the caspian sea...
Thanks you for the video and accurate historical facts.
I like your pronountion of the Norse names a lot,... I wish you lerned how to pronounce the slavic/rus names better, lol. Some you did butcher rather harshly.
So basically the city where the Vikings began their conquest of the Slavic lands
They didn't conquer anything.
i guess it does you justice to house couple million muslims
either you are saying that finns are vikings and finno is part of scandinavia, or you totally ignored the fact that its finnish lake, not finno ugric not slav, not viking
@5.40
but i guess its too hard for swede to pronounce Laatokka
Apologies for my countrymans lack of manners
@@flyfin108 Hah, good one. By my comment I meant you.
your accent could be either swedish or jamaican. how is that possible
maybe hes jamaican swedish ever think of that retard?
He is swedish, i hear it
Wonderful video thanks
Dont know why this one attracts so much pseudohistory in the comments, guess its a geopolitically charged topic
Oldest combe found in todays Denmark has HARJA written on it...Harja is the finnish word for brush. Longest sword was found in Finland . Old finnish kings golden helmet was found and smelted by the swedish authorities. Oldest recurve bows were found in Finland and invented by finns.Soviet arceologists contacted finnish musei verk (swedish controlled) in the 70ies and told that there had been iron/steel productin in europes oldest city käkisalmi 8000 yeas ago (lots of surface iron easily available in lakes.). The Vatikan sent message that finnish people must stop domesticating mooses. Swedish king ordered that all place names in sweden must be changed from finnish to swedish.Finnish people must learn swedish and go to church , if they don't obey law they can be killed. Finnish shamans were the priests in Apollo Greece , temples built for them , the finnish hyperborean people.
Harja is ultimately a Proto-Germanic word meaning hair. See how similar even the English form is - hair.
Жаль, что вы, похоже, совсем не учитывали российские статьи на данную тему.
Did you check the description of the video?
I saw a couple of ruzkie names...
Or was it just that it didnt fit your narrativ?
Российские статьи полный пиздеж! И вы это знаете! Вы и есть fake!
@@uranusismightybig5111 нет, я не читал описание и нет, я не имею никаких нарративов, по этой теме. Просто по последним данным между 753 годом и 10 веком Ладога еще как минимум дважды уничтожалась и отстраивалась заново.
@@lunohodpashenskiyinteresting...
Apparently their was fierce competition on the trade routes up north between Finnish-Ugric, Slavs and Scandinavians.
To imagine Viking bands passing thru the river and using the place as a supply base, that in turn turns into a market for local people and later grows into a small trading town....is not very hard.
And neither is the thought of local leaders, seeing the riches of the trade, and wanting to control it for themselves...
It all makes one wonder what kind of life one would of had if one was alive then....
History is so fascinating!
@@uranusismightybig5111 Definitely during wet decades the inland transverse by the Vikings and others by rivers and flood lets has been proven if not yet accepted. definitely you are correct and maybe even more than you say.
This proves that St. Petersburg is Svedish (or Norwegian?). Peope of Petersburg should have a referendum whether to be annexed by Norway or Sweden.
Population of Norway: 5.4 million people. Population of St. Petersburg: 5.6 million + a couple of million people in the region. Let's then annex Norway to St. Petersburg. 🤗🤗
The Khazar were not jewish but converted to Christianity then. The conversion to judaism is a myth.
sure but what if a whale ate him?
soo your saying we need to go invade to defend ethnic balts and nordics
Baltic Empire? More Like Swedish.. Love the accent...
The lakes Laatokka and Ääninen belongs to the Finnish people. The karelian dialekt is Finnish language. Savon dialekt is finnish language.Just like all the other dialekts in Finland for example häme, eteläpohja,lounais and peräpohjan dialekts. You don't say that Stockholmska,Göteborska,skånska or dalmål for example are separates languages in Sweden. Jämtska maybe different.
It's just Indo's way of admitting that they stole the history, they just cant mention Finns, no matter what. Most often they actually call Karelians Swedes. Russians are also masters at changing the past, Bosheviks viped out the past in industrial scale. There is no room for Finns in Orwellian New World Order.
Хуй вы пососете финнф, а не Ладогу с Онегой поимеете...)))
Old man we Finns from second marriage there , sorry ass mine born Helsinki . . he Karelian whose lands on border near Vipuri town , he taken prisoner in early cross border raid as teen & lucky released & no road to hell soviet gulags averted . . fought all through then to see the railway yards of Leningrad . . the Rus in their tomes insult Finns who roamed around in snow around the traps . . to their peril
Thats not europe's largest lake☝️🤓
Morrowind.
This really shows how old and ancient the ukrainian history is. And also scandinavian, finn-ugrian influences. Ofcourse all of these denied of terroruzzia.
Not really Ukrainian, Aldeigjuborg and the possible state around it was connected but separate to the one around Kiev. Moreso than anything it's Novgorodian history, with Novgorod today being part of Russia.
@@balticempire7244ukrainians prefer not to ignore that Rus didn't start from Kiev
@@balticempire7244
As you mention in the video, according to one version of events, it was the first place ruled by Rurik, who had sent men to capture Kiev ahead of his personal conquests. They revolted against his successor, Oleg, who killed them, after which Kiev became the centre of the Rus polity. By this account, the Rus capital moved from Aldeigjuborg to Novgorod to Kiev in the space of twenty years.
I don't personally believe this precise narrative, but it seems that the princes of Kiev did come to be overlords of all Rus, Aldeigjuborg included, at about that time.
Maybe comes from the Russian word for lake, Ladoga.
Russia(or rather Muscovy) wasn't even a thing until the Mongols left in the 12th century
It's amazing they let you out of the 5th grade.
The Russian word for lake is _'Ozero,'_ latinized.
@@ezekielbrockmann114ladoga is the Russian name of this lake. It does not mean lake in general ....lol
In Old Russian this lake was called "Nevo". "Ladoga" was adopted later.
And it is not logical to you that the Russian Slavic name might be influenced or borrowed directly from Finnic or through Norse, who themselves borrowed it from the Finnic people who inhabited the Ladoga area long before Slavs appeared from the south and Norse came from the west?
Dirham ( drachma)
600s or Seventh Century. We have no need for American usages in Europe
Dinar ( denarii )
Sweden wants its land back now 👊🏻
Say ”Please” to Putin…😅
support your claim , brother . 🍻
There were no Vikings or Scandinavians in the Baltic Sea or on the Russian rivers There the Gotlandc merchant controlled trade all the way to Bagdad and Constantinople. The Gotlandic merchant are in Greek sources called Varjag and in Arabic sources Rus. Thre are no traces of Swedes or Scandinavians in Russia before 1019
Gotland is a Swedish island dough, where the main settlement of the Swedish vikings was located...
Gotland is Sweden
my ancestors were Swedes from East according to my family legend. I did DNA test finding huge matches from South Sweden including Gotland , some from Denmark and not a single Norwegian ... ah , forgot Islandic . So Scandinavians were there when even Russia did not exist .
Very much of Vikings in these days...this I call it to be bull.
If we go back abut or one bit more than 100 years people knew nothing about Vikings.
The Norwegians where the true Vikings named after their habitat= Vikar. They traveled down South and West, the Vikings.
Ingria the ingrians are named by the river Inkere Inkerinmaa, inkeriläiset, period!
This region was an well kown well established trading hub so findings will tell what one wants to belive but more items/gods from this very hub landed in Birka that the other way around that is been proven. I just saying...
The Norwegians lived in fjords. Vikar is still the exact same word to this day, in Sweden. Norwegian vikings went to Scotland, and Ireland. The Danes to England, and the Swedes went eastwards to, among other places, Lake Ladoga. They where all Norse Vikings, and you are talking a bunch of bull-crap.
@@the_hate_inside1085 Therer where no Vikings and Norse? No not at all in the Baltic Sea but there was an baltic sea culture the Varangians an mix of swedes yes Ruser and of other coastal people, fishing, traiding and raiding.
An friendly coallition of tribes the swedes by them selfes went no where, finns where the first ones connected eastwards knowing the routes "swedes" where invited as times had changed to be of more hostile other people where seeking for an dominance taking land, slaves and demanding taxes.
Well, you might be as butthurt but this is it.
@elham9010 You got it all mixed up, Rus, was the locals name for the Varangians, they are the same people. Rus originates from the norse word "to row", which is what they called them, basically " the ones who row". They were not a Baltic sea culture either, they originated from what is "Roslagen" in today's Sweden. They settled in the Baltics, but that in not where they originated from...
Lejduga like (meaning salable when calm) and Lejdugaborg are the other ancient versions of the name, revealing the name is of old Norse origins.
V-Kings were the 3th century (BC) V-mana enthusiasts who powered their crafts with the fifth (V) element (subsequently Aether). They built both Novgorod and Kiev. But communists (and pre-communists) tried to eradicate them with vodka and poisoned foods.
13:49 "truth is somewhere in-between" is among the dumbest things you can consistently hear even from the educated people. Imagine you're judge in court and one side is just totally lying from top to bottom and the other is just telling the truth. And your verdict is "truth is somewhere in-between"... See how dumb it is?
It's a vital part of the modern Russian state. When other countries acknowledge the atrocities dome by Russia, Russia will blatantly lie and claim that everyone is lying and that the truth is somewhere in the middle.
@@BurnBird1 Yeah that's exactly how I learned it. By seeing people no matter how educated they are, believing in the dumbest things and when accused of it, they say that they believe the truth is somewhere "in the middle". So they literally just pick a middle between the truth and state propaganda lies and believe in that half-truth, because it's safe that way. Russian people are considered to be brave around the world but if you really live here you realize it's such a myth. People here are consciously making a choice to believe in lies or half-truths just to be safe, how is that brave? And to be completely open and honest, I became disillusioned with the "freedom" of the West in 2023 as well. You are absolutely not allowed to criticize Islam there, just as in Russia. Here you have Chechens driving all across the country with AK-47's in their car trunks and they can quite literally kidnap you without any consequences to be judged in Chechnya and many more "privileges" like these. So it's understandable for people being scared of speaking out against Islam here. But in Europe, or in America? You don't have them, but you still can't. It isn't "tolerance", it is censorship. Which I face regularly when trying to discuss this on the Western platforms. You can criticize Christianity all you want, say all you want about Jesus and other saints. But when it comes to Islam, Muhammad and other "heroes" of Islam, you are being mercilessly shut up.
this isn't a law court, this is discussing history which occured over a thousand years ago. it has nothing to do with your ridiculously constructed strawman scenario. history does not have an objective truth, that is impossible to know without a time machine. it is a narrative or rather a perception constructed by individuals with the use of available evidence, be it written, archaeological, or genetic, all of which is limited and doesn't provide a complete picture, allowing for different interpretations to be drawn, many of which are often extreme. "the truth lies somewhere inbetween" in the context of history, means that every side painting a different narrative probably contains some grain of truth which it draws from. does it mean that all of it is true? probably not, but it's what we have to work with, and which is why history has to be taken with a grain of salt. take for example the Primary Chronicle - it speaks of Varangian/Scandinavian involvement in early Rus which some have since denied. now we have archaeological and genetic evidence to prove their presence in the region. some use these materials to say the Varangians ran Rus, while others say there were just traders
@@balticempire7244 I made an example with court because of how universal that is. It applies to anything. If one side is lying and another is telling the truth, and in case with historical sources you might not even know the sympathies or allegiances of that source(or whoever he took as his sources), how neutral and independent he was(/they were), then you have absolutely no idea what happened, let alone in cases where there is just a single source... By the way, I'm not even talking about that particular subject of what happened to Ladoga. Just in general.
@@Novgorod_Republic as you know Russian pravda is very flexible
Finns are Europes native people...Finnish people are finnish , other europeans are a indoarabmongolafrican mixt mixed with white skinned blue eyed finns.
All Ukrainians: Finns are Mongols xD