Currently one of the best value amps on the world market, period. Great Bluetooth, a full weighty sound with all inputs and classic styling. I love the bass on the Denon again full and with a nice heavy slam., mids are great, full vocals and nice smooth highs. I have tried a few amps from different mid market brands and always, I repeat, always come back to Denon. My most recent comparison was with the Iota VX SA3 and while that is a nice amp too and very well built, I came back to my Denon PMA600NE and settled there. The 600ne has more weight in the bass and much better vocal and mid range over the SA3. The Denon drives my Monitor Bronze 200 speakers very well and are well suited to each other. The Monitor Audio Bronze 200 can reach as low as 35hrz with dual 5.25 inch cones so the Denon pma600ne puts some low end goodness through those with fluid partnership. My first silver amp too...usually I go for black but with my failing eyesight the silver is easier to read primarily but it's also a little more elegant cosmetically than the black version imo.
@@jorgenavas6704 Yes. My room was 25m2 and I had no problems filling the room with music and rarely got to 1.00 on the volume. The Wharfedale 12.2 are very nice speakers, a good match for the Denon PMA600NE.
Bought the denon after a week of side by side with a Cambridge ax100. Smooth weighty but still clear at the top. The Cambridge was a bit cold and fatiguing. Great review , thank you.
I've just got one of these, matched with a pair of Elac DBR62 speakers, and what a combination. I'm sure that Denon has under-stated the power output, I listen around 80-85dB, and no sign of the amp strugglin when driven hard. On some of my test tracks, the tom tom hits are huge. Muscular is probably the best description. Phone stage is pretty good, and the headphone output is 90% of my JDS Element 2
Maybe because the companies tend to give more honest power ratings with stereo amps than surround receivers. When you see a well known receiver from, say Sony, and it boasts "175 Watts x 7" it is deliberately misleading. They are giving you a specious rating, which they might call "dynamic" power. Basically means driving one channel and using a midrange test tone at 1 khz (midrange frequency that any amp can perform easily) and when it spikes at about 80- 90 Watts for a few milliseconds, calling it 100 Watts. They really mean 175 divided by 7. Which would come to 25 watts RMS at most. So with that more truthful rating, the 40 Watts of this Denon 600ne is actually plenty of power. NAD too will give a 40 watt x 2 rating for their stereo amps which sounds wimpy.But they will also explain that the dynamic power of the same amp is over 100 Watts, which sounds good.
Ultimately I didn’t keep this amp , if you can stretch to a Rotel tribute which is not a lot more money , the Rotel is a keeper for me , wow it literally wipes the floor with the Denon in my opinion , in fact if we are talking about best amp under £1000 the ROTEL is a lot closer to that than the Denon , I’d say it’s twice as good , everything about it sounds so much nicer , space , detail , warmth - I love this amp. It’s a Ken special edition and it’s a beauty , it’s not got digital connections though other than Bluetooth. But add a good Dac and I can honestly say the search is over. I’m using with wharfedale speakers.
It's strange, because many people rave about this Rotel amp but I bought one and didn't get on with it at all. At first I thought it was faulty: with the volume set to 30 it was hardly making any sound. I called Sevenoaks and they said that was normal with a digital volume control. Gave it about 12 hours playing time and all the while it sounded flat and lifeless. Didn't have more patience with it as I don't really believe in night and day burn in with amplifiers, with speakers maybe, but not amps.
@@robertmarshall7712 Yeah. I've read a lot of good things about the Tribute amp, regarding sound. However, there seems to be a fairly common opinion that the Tribute amp is a bit anemic in the power supply. Was that your experience as well? Now I wonder, if this Denon has a better, more powerful power supply. Anyone??? Another question regarding this Denon pma-600ne: does it have a full bodied, warmer sound?
I JUST bought this and decided to see if you did a review on it. So far I’m impressed. Even at the inflated price. Although I used an old iPhone I had sitting around as a trade in. I paid less than half the price so I really can’t complain.
You've come a long way in your presenting since this video, Randy! 🙂I'm running a PMA510AE at the moment but thinking of an upgrade and this one is the front runner. Just picked up an ifi Zen Phono and your recommendation there was on the money: what an improvement in my vinyl listening! Keep up the good work... Arabest, from Scotland 🙂
This is like the 10th time I've watched this review. Love it! It would be FANTASTIC if you could review the NR1200 and then compare it to the Denon PMA600NE and of course, the Marantz NR1711 for those wondering if Marantz's 2-channel offering is BETTER in stereo. Also, how good is the built-in streamer? Happy Holidays!
If you can, watch the newer NR1711 video. I talk about the streaming in that unit. Unfortunately, I don't have the Denon anymore. The NR1200 looks very good to me but I have no experience with it. Thanks for watching.
Thanks for the review! For the price it is sold at, it seems like an amazing value and this review solidified my decision to try it out! I didn't catch what speakers you tried them with, I'd be interested in what these would pair well with
I tried it with the Elac Unifi UB5s which can be a bit hard to drive and it had no problem with them. Also tried the Klipsch RP600M and Elac debut b6. Did well with all of them and has tone controls to suit your own taste. Was very dynamic and punchy. It’s a very fun amp. I also have another video comparing this one to the Emotiva. You might check that one out too. This is a great amp and good value.
@@cheapaudioman You are out here talking to us. You are the greatest! Thanks for all your work. You rest assure your work is appreciated by us all! Thanks. (sometimes i watch the entire ads just to contribute):)
Hey. I have this Amp and Polk S15 speaker. It worked out great for me. This is my firsts amp and speaker. Iam very Happy with price/quality. For a cheap audio like this... You got Great sound i think :) nice video!
Good to know! I've been wondering how this amp would pair with them.... Running S15s with a sony strdh190 and an 8 inch monoprice sub, gonna ditch the sony for this one.
Ordered the PMA600NE today on the strength of this review and that of Steve Guttenberg. I've had the PMA700 & PMA710 in the past and always enjoyed the Denon sound , perhaps not the last word in detail but they were very enjoyable to listen to - kind of smooth and exciting / non tiring sound. Best integrated heard up to 1000 is a bold statement depending how many heard , anyway here's hoping. I know i could have spent more but I've got a positive feeling about this at 329GBP - why spend more?? , I'll post back for an update. I'll be pairing with some Cyrus One Linear Speakers - will see how that matches up , thanks for the review cheapaudioman.
I agree with the reviews , it’s certainly a very good amp at the price. Used with a high quality CD player avoiding the inbuilt Dac - very good indeed. Connecting a Sony TV into the Dac section was less pleasing. Not tried the phono stage. So depends what you need to do with it. As an amplifier for two channel stereo music , I’d certainly recommend .
Shane , I’ve never heard a Sansui so I can’t comment on that at all. I’d imagine the Denon would sound considerably better but you only know that by hearing the two. The phono stage on the Denon is probably like their previous amps pma700 etc and decent though I know for sure that a dedicated phono stage attached to the Denon will raise the bar quite a lot. I’ve had Tisbury and Rotel phono stages plugged into Denon amps and they sound on another level to the inbuilt stage but you have to factor in another £100 -£150 for this. It’s the old story of the better the source in the better the sound out. Speaker matching also plays an important part . Best A
I've been considering this for awhile now, once you mentioned it works well with s&m that may have convinced me. I listen to a wide range of music types, genre's, whatever, but I usually use a couple s&m tracks as well as 'one' (original version and remastered) as like reference songs to see what something sounds like. If it can handle these tracks cranked up to 11 then I'm pretty sure everything else will work fine on it. Also nice to know that it works with the unifi, that will hopefully translate to giving the cheap Maggie's a try on this amp later too?? Thanks again and keep up the good work!
@@cheapaudioman after seeing your emotiva vid now I'm leaning towards that instead. I'm thinking about a bluetooth ldac like the fiio bta30 and the regular power amp from emotiva, hoping I can use the fiio as a preamp, or atleast a volume control. I think I'll just grab the fiio and mess with it a bit and see if it works the way I'd like it to. It has an app and will function as a bt reciever or transmitter, or a dac. Honestly I really don't know exactly what I want, except just to have some fun and see where this goes. I haven't bought any electronics since my onkyo reciever about 6 years ago now, so much to choose from now!
@@Brian_Romska yeah. Good time to be in this hobby. The TA-100 also has preouts so you could hook up any power amp later. The emotiva takes a bit to get used to if you mess with tone controls but after a few times I got it all sorted. Your way would work well too. It’s also pretty powerful on its own. I’ll probably end up getting another amp to hook up to it down the road. Something maybe with a bit of a different signature.
Good to know. I was hoping that it would put a high pass on the speakers connected to it when the sub was connected though. That would be pretty awesome if it did.
Audiolab 6000A Integrated Amp is getting lots of recognition for price/performance. Would like to know how the Audiolab compares to the Denon PMA-600NE and Marantz NR1711....if you would consider such a review for integrated bang for the buck. Thanks for the review of the PMA-600NE.
Hey great channel! What's your opinion about Denon PMA-600NE vs Maratz PM6007? Can't decide. Vinyl listening metal/rock/ambient. Continue like this, you are great.
Andrew So here’s my update , speaker matching the denon sounds great with some kef q300 , I’m not sure it sounds particularly better than some of the previous denon models but that’s not a criticism because the denon integrated amps are very good generally. I’d say the Dac is a little disappointing and if you have a good Dac you can already use with this then that will improve things , if you have good sources to connect straight into analogue bypass again will sound very lively / good detail / well balanced . I’ve not used the phono stage but typically with denons I’ve used in the past , it will be acceptable but a dedicated stage £100 plus will sound much improved. I’d say overall the Denon pma600 is very good if you can pick one up around £300-£350 it’s probably up there as a superb option and if you like the denon sound, it’s very enjoyable . The next significant step up would be an audiolab 6000a. To say the Denon is described as potentially a best amp under £1000 , for me that’s a step too far but partner with good speakers and sources and it’s very, very good. If aesthetics are important then I would say it’s looking a little dated , using the same casing denon has been using for a number of years , no display - a little bit plasticky and bulky looking in black - maybe silver looks nicer .
I think it should be a decent match if you check guttenburg audiophile man review , he liked it a lot with some kef . Personally I ended up with a Rotel tribute , it’s a little more expensive and you have to factor in a Dac cost but for me it’s a completely different level to the denon .
Thanks actually I just got it, like five minutes after I wrote you my comment 😆 That amp is so great, love it’s warm sound and bright enough for me with smooth bass
Great review - I fully concur. Judging by price, the PMA-600NE is the weakest link in my system, but I don't care...my system sounds so good, there's nothing I wanna change, which is a testament to how good this amp is. When I listen to rave amp reviews, I’m like ‘yeah gotta get that amp’, then I listen to my system and I lose all interest in new gear. My other components are: Kef LS50, Rel T7i, and RME ADI-2 FS with a Mac as my source. I’m listening near-field in a tiny 8x10 feet room with no echo/reflections. BTW, it was only since adding the Rel that my GAS disappeared...before the Rel I was disappointed with my system and kept searching. The only thing I’m interested in now are tubes for a different more holographic sound, but I’m not in any hurry.
Please tell me something about the LS50. I felt like it had zero bass. The guy I sold them to said they had zero bass. I see reviews of them never mentioning this. Do yours have bass? I'm assuming since the REL stopped your journey that this may be a true statement?
@@cheapaudioman The LS50 doesn’t have slam, but that’s not what I’m after. It’s not that the LS50 doesn’t have bass - I think it does, for example, when I listen to Macy Gray’s ‘Annabelle’ from the album Stripped, it reaches down and does a good job at playing the bass notes (considering it’s a small box). The problem is it lacks richness/fullness and depth not just with bass instruments but with every instrument, even her voice and the room! ‘Annabelle’ was recorded live in a church and although you can hear the room on the LS50, it’s not very pronounced, but as soon as I switch on my T7i wow the height and volume of the room expands making it more ‘real’. Instruments can also change their imaging and depth for example with the drum solo (snare drum?) in Metallica’s ‘One’ from S&M2 between 40 secs and 1 min 50. On the LS50 it sounds distant and thin, but with my T7i, it moves forward in depth in the soundstage and has a richer/fuller more satisfying sound. The decay is short on the LS50 and the sub fills it out satisfyingly. The soundstage on the LS50 is good, but with my T7i it becomes bigger e.g. with the title track from ‘A Fist Full of Dollars’ it also becomes richer/fuller almost holographic especially the whistling. The difference is with extended bass the soundstage goes from good to amazing. Finally, instruments change their character with the T7i, for example, the cello in ‘Courante’ from Janos Starker’s 1963 recording of Bach’s Suite no. 1 for Solo Cello. On the LS50 it sounds okay, but the cello doesn’t have that satisfying big instrument sound with deep growling voice. But with the T7i, wow, the whole presentation changes...the cello puts on more girth, digs deeper and I can hear more of the room. So, what I was missing with the LS50 was richness, weight and character in every instrument (some more than others), which are related to bass, but it wasn’t bass notes that I was missing. With the T7i I get all that plus the clarity/detail and imaging that the LS50 is known for. The combination is so much more...audiophile.
@@cheapaudioman I've just been listening to Barley Fields by Von Meyer - it's a bass heavy track with an interesting soundstage. It plays great on my LS50s without my sub with an inexpensive Audio Vista Spark II. The bass sounds tight, fast, responsive and extended. It's enough for me....nothing missing from the presentation. However, with the sub the bass becomes richer, fuller, warmer, more visceral and the soundstage just expands and has more depth. Big difference, but the LS50 presentation is pretty good. By the way, the Audio Vista Spark II is worth you checking out as it's around the same price as the PMA-600NE (I paid around £325 inc. all taxes and delivery), but is a way better amp but has no features (no remote, no tone control, and only 25W per channel).
Loved the review, I own this and I am very impressed. I noticed the price has gone up $50. Which 2 channel Marantz were you referring to? The PM6007? Thanks.
Heos is strangely awesome with Alexa. It starts almost immediately if I say, Alexa play test track playlist on the marantz and boom... it starts. Takes longer through the heos app which I never quite understood.
My old DRA-635r Denon was passed to my son. I think the DRA 800 will be its successor, but would love to know how it compares to the PMA-600NE. Any thoughts?
Big Fan of the Cheap Audio Man! On your recommendation I've purchased 3 Emotiva products, Denon, Jamo and Anthem products. I have a conundrum I hope you can clear up. I have an Emotiva ERC2 CD player and I am pairing in with this new Denon PMA600 e. Should I connect to optical or RCA cables. Keep up the good work.
Im wondering if I should go with the Denon PMA-800ne instead of 600ne. One big disadvantage of the 800ne is that they took away the sub output, I cant understand why in the world the did it..? Any advise between does 2 amps?
I didn't know anything about amp ,my local store show me a Rotel a Yamaha and a Denon and i choose the Denon for the deep bass on it that was 15 years ago now today i'm looking to buy a cd player maybe i should go for Denon again .......what do you think ????
Thanks for the review. I'm new to audio and I'm thinking of getting this and connecting it to the Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2. It's a bit of a bummer hearing that the organic Bluetooth is 'okay'. The D50s you mentioned costs more than half of the Denon. But I'm excited by the jump in audio quality.
Hei John, did you get that combo finally? (PMA 600 + Elac b5.2) I might have t'ha chance to get both for a good price and was wondering if they would pair in a good way. Elacs should be clean and balanced, maybe a bit "analitic", while PMA 600 tend to be warm and bass rich: could be a good couple...
First of all huge thanks for such an informative video. A small question though. The idea of pairing toping D50s to the denon seems appealing but that only works when you have one source right? Is it possible to connect multiple sources (like streamer and cd player) through the D50s to my denon pma-600ne and switch between them? Because I wanna be able to use the goodness of an external dac for all my digital sources.
If you had to decide between this Denon amp and the Yamaha A-S501, then which one would you pick and why? I’m not necessarily looking for something that will play music super loud. I just want something that sounds really good and will last years. I’m using a Sansui SR-525 turntable with Sansui SP-5500x speakers. Both vintage. Thank you!
@@BrunoKrneticIndeed I have. I ended up going with the Yamaha A-S501. And I must say, I don’t regret it at all. I only use the phono stage for listening to vinyl, and I always keep the Pure Direct mode on. It has a very nice, warm sound and can handle volume and watts just fine (at least with my simple setup). It never feels overheated to the touch either. Even after a few hours of straight music. Hope this helps!
@@mindriot010 thanks a lot for such a quick response! I’m looking into some Marantz options as well, such as NR1711 and NR2000 but Yamaha is really tempting. I plan to use it for vinyl and digital music/movies mostly.
@@BrunoKrneticI’m sure anything by Marantz is great too! I just wanted something that looks cool and simple. The Yamaha amps have a very cool, and almost vintage, look to my eyes. Type into google what type of turntable and speakers you have, along with the amps you’re interested in, and I’m sure there will be a ton of forums with people talking about how that combo sounds. That’s what I did. Good luck my friend! 🤘🏼😎🤘🏼
@@mindriot010 Well I actually got turntable for my birthday recently and now I am looking for amplifier and speakers, so journey is just starting for me!
Nice review, thank you. It’s too bad it doesn’t have a tuner though, that kind of breaks the deal for me. I sleep in my hi-fi room, so I always have the local university classical station going unless I’m specifically listening to hi-fi.
Good review! I got a question. Is this the best amplifier in his price class for my taste of music rock and metal? Greetz hilco. All the way from the Netherlands
Thanks for a good review. Have you had chance to play with the Marantz PM-6007 at all? I've been trying to decide between it and the Denon PMA-600NE, to replace my old Kenwood KA-660D, but having never heard either, it's really difficult to know which to buy. Any thoughts that might help me to decide?
@@Giovanni_Lippert Similar situation to myself then. What puts me off the Marantz though is that some of its predecessors suffer from digital noise interference when using the optical connections and I don't know if the pm-6007 has the same issue or not.
Hi Randy , can you please help me out !! Heres the scoop , I am considering this amp , the Denon PME600NE mostly based on this review and also your review of the Klipsch R51M speakers . My question is 2 fold , # 1 the plastic grill that covers part of the metal grill on the 600 , -- is it removable without causing damage to the unit and why or what purpose does it serve ?? # 2 do you personally feel 45 W's per side is enough power to comfortably drive the R51M speakers ? Thank you for your review , and I have subscribed !! Enjoying your videos , go grab a coffee !! Take care , Dreamer
Thanks for your review, you and Steve Guttenberg can't both be wrong about the Denon so I will be parting with my £329 British pounds before we get locked down again.
Did you buy one Neo? I've Just put one in the basket at Peter Tyson Audio but its showing as Back order. Just waiting on a reply for Time until in stock before clicking Buy. :-)
I'm looking for a separate amp to be connected to the Zone 2 preouts of my main unit, Denon DRA 800H Receiver. This additional amp would be driving separate Elac Debuts 6.2s in a adjoing room. Does this Denon integrated amp have that abilities to accept the preouts from the main receiver ? Alternately, I am looming at the IOTA PA3 as the additional amp? Feedback is most welcome.
What do you think about this amp with two JBL stage A170s and a schitt modi 3+ DAC. Also, how should I do the configuration with my Xbox one and Vizio 4k smart tv.
Hi, will this drive a pair of 120 watt elac debut b5.2 speakers in an optimum and healthy way even though the wattage of the amplifier is way under that, like 70W I'm trying to understand the relationship between amp and speaker. Does the amp wattage absolutely need to be double the wattage of the each speaker for optimum performance? Like 240watt amp for a pair of 120watt speakers? or, will it cause damage the gear down the line? Is it absolutely necessary to get the numbers right? Thanks for any answers in advance. 👍
@@AromaFrank That depends on your speakers efficiency. The industry has tried to make more power seem like it's a better product but in reality lower power that is rated legitimately always wins out.
@@cheapaudioman Got it Thanks. I now have a pair of JBL L820 speakers. I would really appreciate if u know this speaker and can tell me how it compares the Klipsch600 or others that u like. Thank so much for ur help
@@AromaFrank Unfortunately I don't have any time with the JBL's so I couldn't comment on how they sound compared to the RP600M. They would have to be pretty special to best the Klipsch though.
Hi there, I am in a similar situation to yourself. I have a Marantz mcr603 (earlier version of 612) and I love it but I would like more power and head room. I tried the Marantz pm6006uk and didn't like it. Tried the Audiolab 6000A, didn't like it (cold!). Tried the Rotel a11 Tribute, same. In short, I think the little amps in these all in ones are pretty good and not easy to better. However, I haven't tried these Denons and I really respect the Denon sound. Another possibility I'm seriously considering is the Onky a9150. Check out sound clips here on TH-cam vs much more expensive equivalents. More watts does not necessarily mean better sound btw.
@@robertmarshall7712 true, the grass is not always greener on the other side! And more expensive doesn't always mean it has to be better! As with Denon, what model would you like? Used to own what would be the equivalent of the mcr612, the ceol n10. It was a tad too bright for me. I switched to marantz cause I like a warmer sound, midrange and sweeter treble. Did you listen to all these hi-fi systems in a shop or did you actually own them?
@@diegocanale1124 I bought the m-cr603 used for a ridiculously low price and it's fantastic. So I'm drawn to the PMA-800NE, same as this amp but with a few more watts but only £50 more, or the Onkyo a9150 which I mentioned. If you have some good headphones you really should check out the sound clips on TH-cam. Sounds excellent to me.
@@robertmarshall7712 heard the pma 800 ne is excellent. Might be an alternative for the future. At the moment I don't need any more power. What I have is enough for a small apartment and it sounds good enough for me. I'm liking the marantz sound. I don't have good headphone, I just use earplugs but I still get the idea.
I have the elac debut b6.2 I was recommended this by a guy (that tests all sorts of gear) for my set up and price range I think what I'm going to do is to buy this then eventually get a preamp and use it strictly as an amplifier then upgrade it even later on lmao
CheapAudioMan! Excuse my ignorance but could I hook up an external pre amp to the Denon AMP? I have a REGA MM MK5 which I used on my vintage pioneer amp which improved the sound sooo much. I also want to keep using it in my new Audio Chain. At 9:02 you mention that it has no "pre-out" so you can't add an external amplifier; I get the feeling that is different to adding a phono stage via the AUX imput right? Again excuse the ignorance but I almost had a mini-stroke thinking I spent my money on equipment which won't compliment my current external pre-amp (which was pretty expensive...for me). Thanks!!
Good day Cheap-audio dude, i bought tis Denon, can you tell me, how to set up, the Denon with a sub combined with the DBR6, i cant get it right, despite your video’s Greetings from Holland
I'm not sure Mr. Important. I know the Denon drove the Elac Unifi UB5's very well and they are very low impedence and sensitivity. However, I haven't head the 750's. Often time, towers are actually more sensitive to their bookshelf brothers because of multiple drivers in parallel.
Hi Randy! I'm on my way to put together my first hi-fi system and I'd like to know if you think this amp would make a good pair with Elac Debut 5.2. I would play them in a small an low room, so mainly at low volume: if they need to be cranked to sound alive, they are not for me. Alternatives could be Q3020i or Dali Spektor 2. Greetings from Italy!
Im confused about DAC. if i have a analog input to this receiver via the ports on the back, what does the DAC in this device do? What is the best way to get high quality audio into this receiver?
The DAC takes either an optical (spdif) or coaxial (spdif) from a device such as your tv, computer, or cd player and translates the digital info into analog info internally. If you hook up a cd player via the rca inputs on the back then the cd player is doing the digital to analog conversion. You can bring in high res music through the digital inputs on this device. I hope this helps.
Yo Randy, I watch your videos religiously. My favorite reviews for sure. Denon pma 600ne paired with Sony Ss cs5. What's your thoughts on that pairing? I know you like both
I think it would be just fine although I've never heard the 809's. the 805's were pretty neutral so a little weight on the low end would sound great. The Denon is a nice lush sounding amp.
I had the Sony dh190 before the Denon pma 600n and what can I say is that the sony was pretty powerful, (not 2x100w for sure) and detailed, the bass was awfull out of the Sony. It s only boomy and no body to it. The Denon on the other hand it s powerfull and the bass is there with a punch. The sount is warm. Although after 6 months the combination with Monitor Audio bronze2 got a little on the bright side when listening to rock. Maybe the speakers are like that. Don t know what happened. So don t bother with the Sony. The Denon is on the other league. Though I regret not buying the 800ne when there was only 50 bucks in between. I wanted a sub out that not even now after an year I don t use, and bluetooth that occasionally use. Don t cheap out.
I was going to get the Denon but decided on the Cambridge axr100 for $100 more for its looks, watts, reviews. Sounds really nice , only concern is when fan kicks in u can hear it but not when listening to music. But back of my mind, will that fan eventually give out and is it replaceable. Do u know if Denon has a fan ? If so, was it noticeable ? Ran cool ?
I have this combo and it's real sweat and effort-ly smooth...they compliment each other at a high level...sound stage is wide and deep...instrument separation is distinct.
Can I ask maybe a stupid question...I have a pair of old Magneplanars SMGa that require 4ohm and this Denon amp can do it, just like to know how does the amp work with 4 ohm speakers? any special way to hook up the speakers or a switch on the Denon?
Magnepans are pretty power hungry from a current stand point. However, I think that Steve Guttenberg ran his Maggies with the Denon and it worked fine. Take a look at his review on this. I don't remember a switch for the speaker load on it.
@@mowler8042 I forgot to mention I drive the Elac UB5’s off of the Denon with no problem. The Anthem integrated 225 did bring them up a fair amount but that was also 5 times as expensive.
@@cheapaudioman Ok thank you will see if I can get one in the new year...not too many to choose from price wise to the Denon, have been looking for a Bryston for years for a good deal even the old ones are holding their value.
It's pretty good. Not as good as the emotiva but good enough to get you by until you want to buy something a bit better. Bottom line is that the Denon is a traditional go to market component so there are about 3 markups on it before it gets to you and Denon is still making their requisite profit margin on it so logically, the Emotiva has a more expensive phono amp in theirs. Doesn't always mean it's going to be better, but that's just kind of the facts about the traditional components.
I did not. I did have the R-51's for a while though. Would be a good pairing but I think there are better speakers out there cheaper than the R-51's. The sony sscs5 i think is actually better than the klipsch.
I tried the R51m for a month after starting out with the Sony SSCS-5s. Buy the Sony’s even at full price. The bass on the Klipsch was awful compared to the Sony and the sound stage no where close. They pair up well with this Denon Amp.
I’ve owned the arcam sa10 and the audiolab 6000a is a better amp at that price point , the sa10 has a better Dac but overall I think the denon is much better value at around half the price , the audiolab 6000a sounds a good step up at that price point from the Denon , so if budget important denon vs arcam - go denon . If you want to spend a bit more - audiolab .
@@LightningDyno Just to clear, in no way is the Denon better than the Arcam. From my perspective that is not even close. Can you be sure that is what you're stating? I have all three the SA10, 20, and Denon. The Denon is closer to a standard receiver. Not trying to disrespectful, But I just really looked at this. Jay
Hi Jason , I didn’t say the denon was better , I said better value at maybe half the cost of arcam. I owned the SA10 for about 3 months and sold it on. The Dac section is higher quality with the arcam for sure using a sabre Dac. Digital sources will sound better , a decent analogue source into the denon is not so far off though , I put that that to the test . Also with wharfdale reva speakers I found the SA10 quite flat sounding and a little dull. The guy that bought my SA10 was also not that impressed and even got arcam to check it , they fully tested and reported back it was working fine but he swapped it out for an audiolab in the end. I’ve been told the sa20 is better . Actually I’m quite a fan or arcam in fact I use an arcam avr350 for stereo now , this wipes the floor with the SA10 in my opinion although to be fair this was a receiver that was several thousand in its day. Anyway maybe the SA10 is better with certain speakers but I found it rather disappointing and although it may be a little better than the denon potentially with the right matching equipment or as a digital amplifier , I didn’t find it to be twice as good as the denon on analogue sources or with a good quality CD player attached - have to say I found the denon more fun in that regard . I know arcam was taken over by Harman kardon recently , the SA10 not up to some of their previous highly regarded models like the FMJ and the Diva ranges before.
@@LightningDyno That's funny I got a set of 11.2 for my wife's office and I tested the speakers using the Arcam. I agree the speakers were a bit dull. I got her a used NAD 3020 and boom, match perfect. I have not heard the audiobabs 6000 but I have been told its good. And just to clear the better is the sa20. I have that on a set of KEF R3's Its awesome. But I do agree for 450 the denon is great. I have not tried the Cambridge for 349. That is tempting but I have enough gear right now. :)
@@cheapaudioman thank you for your kind reply..I am confused because at the back of this amplifier you get the wording "network", "aux", "recorder" instead of the self-explanatory "tape" that was used in the 80's..
Good day. I have a Denon PMA 720, DNP 730 and DCD 520. I play via a Q Acoustic 3020 plus a Q Acoustic 3060S subwoofer. Would I get better sound by buying Denon PMA 600 NE? I listen mainly from NAS in FLAC format, sometimes Spotify and original CDs, genre hard rock and metal, room 20 m square, Thanks Milan
Looks like you have a good system already. If you want something of a different flavor or improved sound quality I would probably look at a different speaker. Not saying the Q’s are bad just saying it may be more cost effective than a new amp and then you could have a bit of a different “flavor” with two different high value bookshelf speakers. I don’t have direct experience with the 720 so I wouldn’t be able to comment. If you are looking to another integrated amp I’d also suggest the Emotiva TA-100 as it has preamp outputs and you could add an external amp later down the line to improve the sound even better.
Currently one of the best value amps on the world market, period. Great Bluetooth, a full weighty sound with all inputs and classic styling. I love the bass on the Denon again full and with a nice heavy slam., mids are great, full vocals and nice smooth highs. I have tried a few amps from different mid market brands and always, I repeat, always come back to Denon. My most recent comparison was with the Iota VX SA3 and while that is a nice amp too and very well built, I came back to my Denon PMA600NE and settled there. The 600ne has more weight in the bass and much better vocal and mid range over the SA3. The Denon drives my Monitor Bronze 200 speakers very well and are well suited to each other. The Monitor Audio Bronze 200 can reach as low as 35hrz with dual 5.25 inch cones so the Denon pma600ne puts some low end goodness through those with fluid partnership. My first silver amp too...usually I go for black but with my failing eyesight the silver is easier to read primarily but it's also a little more elegant cosmetically than the black version imo.
Would this amplifier go well with some Whaferfale Diamond 12.2 for a small/medium room of 16 m2? greetings from Argentina!
@@jorgenavas6704 Yes. My room was 25m2 and I had no problems filling the room with music and rarely got to 1.00 on the volume. The Wharfedale 12.2 are very nice speakers, a good match for the Denon PMA600NE.
Bought the denon after a week of side by side with a Cambridge ax100. Smooth weighty but still clear at the top. The Cambridge was a bit cold and fatiguing. Great review , thank you.
I've just got one of these, matched with a pair of Elac DBR62 speakers, and what a combination. I'm sure that Denon has under-stated the power output, I listen around 80-85dB, and no sign of the amp strugglin when driven hard. On some of my test tracks, the tom tom hits are huge. Muscular is probably the best description. Phone stage is pretty good, and the headphone output is 90% of my JDS Element 2
Maybe because the companies tend to give more honest power ratings with stereo amps than surround receivers.
When you see a well known receiver from, say Sony, and it boasts "175 Watts x 7" it is deliberately misleading. They are giving you a specious rating, which they might call "dynamic" power. Basically means driving one channel and using a midrange test tone at 1 khz (midrange frequency that any amp can perform easily) and when it spikes at about 80- 90 Watts for a few milliseconds, calling it 100 Watts.
They really mean 175 divided by 7. Which would come to 25 watts RMS at most. So with that more truthful rating, the 40 Watts of this Denon 600ne is actually plenty of power.
NAD too will give a 40 watt x 2 rating for their stereo amps which sounds wimpy.But they will also explain that the dynamic power of the same amp is over 100 Watts, which sounds good.
I’ve been looking at the Denon for ages, you’ve helped me decide, thanks mate, love your work🇦🇺
Ultimately I didn’t keep this amp , if you can stretch to a Rotel tribute which is not a lot more money , the Rotel is a keeper for me , wow it literally wipes the floor with the Denon in my opinion , in fact if we are talking about best amp under £1000 the ROTEL is a lot closer to that than the Denon , I’d say it’s twice as good , everything about it sounds so much nicer , space , detail , warmth - I love this amp. It’s a Ken special edition and it’s a beauty , it’s not got digital connections though other than Bluetooth. But add a good Dac and I can honestly say the search is over. I’m using with wharfedale speakers.
It's strange, because many people rave about this Rotel amp but I bought one and didn't get on with it at all. At first I thought it was faulty: with the volume set to 30 it was hardly making any sound. I called Sevenoaks and they said that was normal with a digital volume control. Gave it about 12 hours playing time and all the while it sounded flat and lifeless. Didn't have more patience with it as I don't really believe in night and day burn in with amplifiers, with speakers maybe, but not amps.
@@robertmarshall7712
Yeah. I've read a lot of good things about the Tribute amp, regarding sound. However, there seems to be a fairly common opinion that the Tribute amp is a bit anemic in the power supply.
Was that your experience as well?
Now I wonder, if this Denon has a better, more powerful power supply. Anyone???
Another question regarding this Denon pma-600ne: does it have a full bodied, warmer sound?
This is a nice review. Not complicated like the other ones I watched. Helped me decide to get the Denon
totally agree
I JUST bought this and decided to see if you did a review on it. So far I’m impressed. Even at the inflated price.
Although I used an old iPhone I had sitting around as a trade in. I paid less than half the price so I really can’t complain.
You've come a long way in your presenting since this video, Randy! 🙂I'm running a PMA510AE at the moment but thinking of an upgrade and this one is the front runner. Just picked up an ifi Zen Phono and your recommendation there was on the money: what an improvement in my vinyl listening! Keep up the good work... Arabest, from Scotland 🙂
I was always made to believe you had to be a Rockefeller to have a good hi-fi system, thank you my friend for pointing out the obvious.
Truth is truth my man. Great great review
This is like the 10th time I've watched this review. Love it! It would be FANTASTIC if you could review the NR1200 and then compare it to the Denon PMA600NE and of course, the Marantz NR1711 for those wondering if Marantz's 2-channel offering is BETTER in stereo. Also, how good is the built-in streamer? Happy Holidays!
If you can, watch the newer NR1711 video. I talk about the streaming in that unit. Unfortunately, I don't have the Denon anymore. The NR1200 looks very good to me but I have no experience with it.
Thanks for watching.
Thanks for the review!
For the price it is sold at, it seems like an amazing value and this review solidified my decision to try it out!
I didn't catch what speakers you tried them with, I'd be interested in what these would pair well with
I tried it with the Elac Unifi UB5s which can be a bit hard to drive and it had no problem with them. Also tried the Klipsch RP600M and Elac debut b6. Did well with all of them and has tone controls to suit your own taste. Was very dynamic and punchy. It’s a very fun amp. I also have another video comparing this one to the Emotiva. You might check that one out too. This is a great amp and good value.
@@cheapaudioman Thanks alot! I enjoyed your review, hope to see more of you
@@cheapaudioman You are out here talking to us. You are the greatest! Thanks for all your work. You rest assure your work is appreciated by us all! Thanks. (sometimes i watch the entire ads just to contribute):)
@@cheapaudiomanWould this amplifier go well with some Whaferfale Diamond 12.2 for a small/medium room of 16 m2? greetings from Argentina!
Hey. I have this Amp and Polk S15 speaker. It worked out great for me. This is my firsts amp and speaker. Iam very Happy with price/quality. For a cheap audio like this... You got Great sound i think :) nice video!
Good to know! I've been wondering how this amp would pair with them.... Running S15s with a sony strdh190 and an 8 inch monoprice sub, gonna ditch the sony for this one.
Ordered the PMA600NE today on the strength of this review and that of Steve Guttenberg. I've had the PMA700 & PMA710 in the past and always enjoyed the Denon sound , perhaps not the last word in detail but they were very enjoyable to listen to - kind of smooth and exciting / non tiring sound. Best integrated heard up to 1000 is a bold statement depending how many heard , anyway here's hoping. I know i could have spent more but I've got a positive feeling about this at 329GBP - why spend more?? , I'll post back for an update. I'll be pairing with some Cyrus One Linear Speakers - will see how that matches up , thanks for the review cheapaudioman.
I agree and I think you’ll be happy with it. Thanks for the watch
How is it?
I agree with the reviews , it’s certainly a very good amp at the price. Used with a high quality CD player avoiding the inbuilt Dac - very good indeed. Connecting a Sony TV into the Dac section was less pleasing. Not tried the phono stage. So depends what you need to do with it. As an amplifier for two channel stereo music , I’d certainly recommend .
@@LightningDyno I’m going to use it for my turntable , I’ve a sansui au 101 and it sounds very thin
Shane , I’ve never heard a Sansui so I can’t comment on that at all. I’d imagine the Denon would sound considerably better but you only know that by hearing the two. The phono stage on the Denon is probably like their previous amps pma700 etc and decent though I know for sure that a dedicated phono stage attached to the Denon will raise the bar quite a lot. I’ve had Tisbury and Rotel phono stages plugged into Denon amps and they sound on another level to the inbuilt stage but you have to factor in another £100 -£150 for this. It’s the old story of the better the source in the better the sound out. Speaker matching also plays an important part . Best A
If only we in the US could get the silver faced version of this amp....
I know right!
You can on Amazon.
I've been considering this for awhile now, once you mentioned it works well with s&m that may have convinced me. I listen to a wide range of music types, genre's, whatever, but I usually use a couple s&m tracks as well as 'one' (original version and remastered) as like reference songs to see what something sounds like. If it can handle these tracks cranked up to 11 then I'm pretty sure everything else will work fine on it. Also nice to know that it works with the unifi, that will hopefully translate to giving the cheap Maggie's a try on this amp later too?? Thanks again and keep up the good work!
Check out Steve guyttenbergs review of this. He mentions the magnapans. Think it will work well for everything.
@@cheapaudioman after seeing your emotiva vid now I'm leaning towards that instead. I'm thinking about a bluetooth ldac like the fiio bta30 and the regular power amp from emotiva, hoping I can use the fiio as a preamp, or atleast a volume control. I think I'll just grab the fiio and mess with it a bit and see if it works the way I'd like it to. It has an app and will function as a bt reciever or transmitter, or a dac. Honestly I really don't know exactly what I want, except just to have some fun and see where this goes. I haven't bought any electronics since my onkyo reciever about 6 years ago now, so much to choose from now!
@@Brian_Romska yeah. Good time to be in this hobby. The TA-100 also has preouts so you could hook up any power amp later. The emotiva takes a bit to get used to if you mess with tone controls but after a few times I got it all sorted. Your way would work well too. It’s also pretty powerful on its own. I’ll probably end up getting another amp to hook up to it down the road. Something maybe with a bit of a different signature.
Denon tech said the 600NE had 100Hz low pass filter to the subout.
Good to know. I was hoping that it would put a high pass on the speakers connected to it when the sub was connected though. That would be pretty awesome if it did.
Audiolab 6000A Integrated Amp is getting lots of recognition for price/performance. Would like to know how the Audiolab compares to the Denon PMA-600NE and Marantz NR1711....if you would consider such a review for integrated bang for the buck. Thanks for the review of the PMA-600NE.
I'll look into it. My reference now is the Emotiba TA100. Its very good at $400
Hey great channel! What's your opinion about Denon PMA-600NE vs Maratz PM6007? Can't decide. Vinyl listening metal/rock/ambient. Continue like this, you are great.
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So here’s my update , speaker matching the denon sounds great with some kef q300 , I’m not sure it sounds particularly better than some of the previous denon models but that’s not a criticism because the denon integrated amps are very good generally. I’d say the Dac is a little disappointing and if you have a good Dac you can already use with this then that will improve things , if you have good sources to connect straight into analogue bypass again will sound very lively / good detail / well balanced .
I’ve not used the phono stage but typically with denons I’ve used in the past , it will be acceptable but a dedicated stage £100 plus will sound much improved.
I’d say overall the Denon pma600 is very good if you can pick one up around £300-£350 it’s probably up there as a superb option and if you like the denon sound, it’s very enjoyable . The next significant step up would be an audiolab 6000a. To say the Denon is described as potentially a best amp under £1000 , for me that’s a step too far but partner with good speakers and sources and it’s very, very good. If aesthetics are important then I would say it’s looking a little dated , using the same casing denon has been using for a number of years , no display - a little bit plasticky and bulky looking in black - maybe silver looks nicer .
Awesome! Great info and thanks so much for sharing.
I actually bought the Q350 and waiting to the 600NE to arrive, would u recommend this pairing?
I think it should be a decent match if you check guttenburg audiophile man review , he liked it a lot with some kef . Personally I ended up with a Rotel tribute , it’s a little more expensive and you have to factor in a Dac cost but for me it’s a completely different level to the denon .
Thanks actually I just got it, like five minutes after I wrote you my comment 😆
That amp is so great, love it’s warm sound and bright enough for me with smooth bass
A sound demo and sound comparison would be good.
Great review - I fully concur. Judging by price, the PMA-600NE is the weakest link in my system, but I don't care...my system sounds so good, there's nothing I wanna change, which is a testament to how good this amp is. When I listen to rave amp reviews, I’m like ‘yeah gotta get that amp’, then I listen to my system and I lose all interest in new gear.
My other components are: Kef LS50, Rel T7i, and RME ADI-2 FS with a Mac as my source. I’m listening near-field in a tiny 8x10 feet room with no echo/reflections. BTW, it was only since adding the Rel that my GAS disappeared...before the Rel I was disappointed with my system and kept searching. The only thing I’m interested in now are tubes for a different more holographic sound, but I’m not in any hurry.
Please tell me something about the LS50. I felt like it had zero bass. The guy I sold them to said they had zero bass. I see reviews of them never mentioning this. Do yours have bass? I'm assuming since the REL stopped your journey that this may be a true statement?
@@cheapaudioman The LS50 doesn’t have slam, but that’s not what I’m after. It’s not that the LS50 doesn’t have bass - I think it does, for example, when I listen to Macy Gray’s ‘Annabelle’ from the album Stripped, it reaches down and does a good job at playing the bass notes (considering it’s a small box).
The problem is it lacks richness/fullness and depth not just with bass instruments but with every instrument, even her voice and the room!
‘Annabelle’ was recorded live in a church and although you can hear the room on the LS50, it’s not very pronounced, but as soon as I switch on my T7i wow the height and volume of the room expands making it more ‘real’.
Instruments can also change their imaging and depth for example with the drum solo (snare drum?) in Metallica’s ‘One’ from S&M2 between 40 secs and 1 min 50. On the LS50 it sounds distant and thin, but with my T7i, it moves forward in depth in the soundstage and has a richer/fuller more satisfying sound. The decay is short on the LS50 and the sub fills it out satisfyingly.
The soundstage on the LS50 is good, but with my T7i it becomes bigger e.g. with the title track from ‘A Fist Full of Dollars’ it also becomes richer/fuller almost holographic especially the whistling. The difference is with extended bass the soundstage goes from good to amazing.
Finally, instruments change their character with the T7i, for example, the cello in ‘Courante’ from Janos Starker’s 1963 recording of Bach’s Suite no. 1 for Solo Cello. On the LS50 it sounds okay, but the cello doesn’t have that satisfying big instrument sound with deep growling voice. But with the T7i, wow, the whole presentation changes...the cello puts on more girth, digs deeper and I can hear more of the room.
So, what I was missing with the LS50 was richness, weight and character in every instrument (some more than others), which are related to bass, but it wasn’t bass notes that I was missing. With the T7i I get all that plus the clarity/detail and imaging that the LS50 is known for. The combination is so much more...audiophile.
@@cheapaudioman I've just been listening to Barley Fields by Von Meyer - it's a bass heavy track with an interesting soundstage. It plays great on my LS50s without my sub with an inexpensive Audio Vista Spark II. The bass sounds tight, fast, responsive and extended. It's enough for me....nothing missing from the presentation. However, with the sub the bass becomes richer, fuller, warmer, more visceral and the soundstage just expands and has more depth. Big difference, but the LS50 presentation is pretty good.
By the way, the Audio Vista Spark II is worth you checking out as it's around the same price as the PMA-600NE (I paid around £325 inc. all taxes and delivery), but is a way better amp but has no features (no remote, no tone control, and only 25W per channel).
Godfrey.... so you play the Denon with your LS50.
I am trying to pair this Denon with my 4ohms speaker Denton 85..what you think?
Loved the review, I own this and I am very impressed. I noticed the price has gone up $50. Which 2 channel Marantz were you referring to? The PM6007? Thanks.
Just bought this for £260 uk pounds from Amazon uk, or $320 dollars. It was silver but couldn’t resist at the price.
I wound up buying the DRA-800H because it was a 2 channel with hdmi switching and heos/streaming. Not a bad unit at all.
Heos is strangely awesome with Alexa. It starts almost immediately if I say, Alexa play test track playlist on the marantz and boom... it starts. Takes longer through the heos app which I never quite understood.
My old DRA-635r Denon was passed to my son. I think the DRA 800 will be its successor, but would love to know how it compares to the PMA-600NE. Any thoughts?
@@philm6674 unfortunately, I don't have any time with the 635r. I know they make a very quality product.
@@philm6674 I haven’t used the pma series, but I’ll say the dra 800 won’t disappoint you. It’s real solid.
Big Fan of the Cheap Audio Man! On your recommendation I've purchased 3 Emotiva products, Denon, Jamo and Anthem products. I have a conundrum I hope you can clear up. I have an Emotiva ERC2 CD player and I am pairing in with this new Denon PMA600 e. Should I connect to optical or RCA cables. Keep up the good work.
Im wondering if I should go with the Denon PMA-800ne instead of 600ne. One big disadvantage of the 800ne is that they took away the sub output, I cant understand why in the world the did it..? Any advise between does 2 amps?
I didn't know anything about amp ,my local store show me a Rotel a Yamaha and a Denon and i choose the Denon for the deep bass on it that was 15 years ago now today i'm looking to buy a cd player maybe i should go for Denon again .......what do you think ????
Thanks for the review. I'm new to audio and I'm thinking of getting this and connecting it to the Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2. It's a bit of a bummer hearing that the organic Bluetooth is 'okay'. The D50s you mentioned costs more than half of the Denon. But I'm excited by the jump in audio quality.
..my thoughts exactly
Hei John, did you get that combo finally? (PMA 600 + Elac b5.2) I might have t'ha chance to get both for a good price and was wondering if they would pair in a good way. Elacs should be clean and balanced, maybe a bit "analitic", while PMA 600 tend to be warm and bass rich: could be a good couple...
@@alessandroriccioni2719 Hi Alessandro! i bought the Debut B6.2 but they're still in the box because I haven't bought the Denon yet.
How is it at lower volumes? Is it still presentable? I live in a apartment. Thank you
First of all huge thanks for such an informative video. A small question though. The idea of pairing toping D50s to the denon seems appealing but that only works when you have one source right? Is it possible to connect multiple sources (like streamer and cd player) through the D50s to my denon pma-600ne and switch between them? Because I wanna be able to use the goodness of an external dac for all my digital sources.
If you had to decide between this Denon amp and the Yamaha A-S501, then which one would you pick and why? I’m not necessarily looking for something that will play music super loud. I just want something that sounds really good and will last years. I’m using a Sansui SR-525 turntable with Sansui SP-5500x speakers. Both vintage. Thank you!
Have you come up with an answer? I am having the same doubts
@@BrunoKrneticIndeed I have. I ended up going with the Yamaha A-S501. And I must say, I don’t regret it at all. I only use the phono stage for listening to vinyl, and I always keep the Pure Direct mode on. It has a very nice, warm sound and can handle volume and watts just fine (at least with my simple setup). It never feels overheated to the touch either. Even after a few hours of straight music. Hope this helps!
@@mindriot010 thanks a lot for such a quick response! I’m looking into some Marantz options as well, such as NR1711 and NR2000 but Yamaha is really tempting. I plan to use it for vinyl and digital music/movies mostly.
@@BrunoKrneticI’m sure anything by Marantz is great too! I just wanted something that looks cool and simple. The Yamaha amps have a very cool, and almost vintage, look to my eyes. Type into google what type of turntable and speakers you have, along with the amps you’re interested in, and I’m sure there will be a ton of forums with people talking about how that combo sounds. That’s what I did. Good luck my friend! 🤘🏼😎🤘🏼
@@mindriot010 Well I actually got turntable for my birthday recently and now I am looking for amplifier and speakers, so journey is just starting for me!
Randy, could you please do a video on the Denon PMA-800NE?
And what about the Marantz PM-6006 and/or the NA-6006? Thanks!
Hi! What will be a better buy: this one or SMSL-DA-9!?
Nice review, thank you. It’s too bad it doesn’t have a tuner though, that kind of breaks the deal for me. I sleep in my hi-fi room, so I always have the local university classical station going unless I’m specifically listening to hi-fi.
Hey , my computer don t have digital ports and i wold like to connect it to Denon PMA-600NE , but how can i do it without loosing sound quality ?
Good review! I got a question. Is this the best amplifier in his price class for my taste of music rock and metal? Greetz hilco. All the way from the Netherlands
You may want to consider the Emotiva TA-100 if it's available over there. Thank you so much for watching.
@@cheapaudioman thanks
Great review!It would be nice to compare denon with yamaha a-s 301 (350$).
Denon all da way
@@wicomms why?
@@craigtodd8297 I have tried both.
Thanks for a good review. Have you had chance to play with the Marantz PM-6007 at all? I've been trying to decide between it and the Denon PMA-600NE, to replace my old Kenwood KA-660D, but having never heard either, it's really difficult to know which to buy. Any thoughts that might help me to decide?
PM-6007 seems it is better sound wise, but i really don't know, because i have not found comparisions between these too
@@Giovanni_Lippert Yeah, same here. It would be so useful to be able to hear them both in a single review, but no such luck it seems.
@@juddery I'm kinda on the fence of Marantz PM6007 because of it's rave reviews and i like the looks a lot more
@@Giovanni_Lippert Similar situation to myself then. What puts me off the Marantz though is that some of its predecessors suffer from digital noise interference when using the optical connections and I don't know if the pm-6007 has the same issue or not.
Set the playback speed to 1.25x. You'll be glad you did.
There are USB to Spdif adapters and they're not expensive.
Nice and good to know.
@@cheapaudioman Merry Xmas!
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Hi Randy , can you please help me out !! Heres the scoop , I am considering this amp , the Denon PME600NE mostly based on this review and also your review of the Klipsch R51M speakers . My question is 2 fold , # 1 the plastic grill that covers part of the metal grill on the 600 , -- is it removable without causing damage to the unit and why or what purpose does it serve ?? # 2 do you personally feel 45 W's per side is enough power to comfortably drive the R51M speakers ? Thank you for your review , and I have subscribed !! Enjoying your videos , go grab a coffee !!
Take care , Dreamer
Thanks for your review, you and Steve Guttenberg can't both be wrong about the Denon so I will be parting with my £329 British pounds before we get locked down again.
Did you buy one Neo? I've Just put one in the basket at Peter Tyson Audio but its showing as Back order. Just waiting on a reply for Time until in stock before clicking Buy. :-)
@@1love1world1sorry I've been very busy so I decided to wait until Black friday and see if I can get a bargain. Lets hope the stocks improve.
I'm looking for a separate amp to be connected to the Zone 2 preouts of my main unit, Denon DRA 800H Receiver. This additional amp would be driving separate Elac Debuts 6.2s in a adjoing room. Does this Denon integrated amp have that abilities to accept the preouts from the main receiver ? Alternately, I am looming at the IOTA PA3 as the additional amp? Feedback is most welcome.
What do you think about this amp with two JBL stage A170s and a schitt modi 3+ DAC.
Also, how should I do the configuration with my Xbox one and Vizio 4k smart tv.
My Xbox has optical out and so does my tv
What country is this amp made in? China? Vietnam? Malaysia? 45wpc into 8ohms.
Hi, will this drive a pair of 120 watt elac debut b5.2 speakers in an optimum and healthy way even though the wattage of the amplifier is way under that, like 70W
I'm trying to understand the relationship between amp and speaker. Does the amp wattage absolutely need to be double the wattage of the each speaker for optimum performance? Like 240watt amp for a pair of 120watt speakers? or, will it cause damage the gear down the line? Is it absolutely necessary to get the numbers right?
Thanks for any answers in advance. 👍
How would u compare the Denon600ne to Marantz1711? What about the Denon DRA800h? Thanks for ur helpful reviews.
The Denon sounds a bit better than the 1711 for music. I'm going to have a video on that today sometime.
@@cheapaudioman would u think Denon DRA800h is better of Denon600ne because it has more power?
@@AromaFrank That depends on your speakers efficiency. The industry has tried to make more power seem like it's a better product but in reality lower power that is rated legitimately always wins out.
@@cheapaudioman Got it Thanks. I now have a pair of JBL L820 speakers. I would really appreciate if u know this speaker and can tell me how it compares the Klipsch600 or others that u like. Thank so much for ur help
@@AromaFrank Unfortunately I don't have any time with the JBL's so I couldn't comment on how they sound compared to the RP600M. They would have to be pretty special to best the Klipsch though.
I own a Marantz mcr 612 and i wonder how it compares to this PMA-600NE, being the former a bit more expensive and all in one.
Hi there, I am in a similar situation to yourself. I have a Marantz mcr603 (earlier version of 612) and I love it but I would like more power and head room. I tried the Marantz pm6006uk and didn't like it. Tried the Audiolab 6000A, didn't like it (cold!). Tried the Rotel a11 Tribute, same. In short, I think the little amps in these all in ones are pretty good and not easy to better. However, I haven't tried these Denons and I really respect the Denon sound. Another possibility I'm seriously considering is the Onky a9150. Check out sound clips here on TH-cam vs much more expensive equivalents. More watts does not necessarily mean better sound btw.
@@robertmarshall7712 true, the grass is not always greener on the other side! And more expensive doesn't always mean it has to be better! As with Denon, what model would you like? Used to own what would be the equivalent of the mcr612, the ceol n10. It was a tad too bright for me. I switched to marantz cause I like a warmer sound, midrange and sweeter treble. Did you listen to all these hi-fi systems in a shop or did you actually own them?
@@diegocanale1124 I bought the m-cr603 used for a ridiculously low price and it's fantastic. So I'm drawn to the PMA-800NE, same as this amp but with a few more watts but only £50 more, or the Onkyo a9150 which I mentioned. If you have some good headphones you really should check out the sound clips on TH-cam. Sounds excellent to me.
@@robertmarshall7712 heard the pma 800 ne is excellent. Might be an alternative for the future. At the moment I don't need any more power. What I have is enough for a small apartment and it sounds good enough for me. I'm liking the marantz sound. I don't have good headphone, I just use earplugs but I still get the idea.
Will the "Audio Out" (recorder) outs work as preouts for an Amplifier??
Those are usually fixed voltage and not preamp connections.
I have the elac debut b6.2 I was recommended this by a guy (that tests all sorts of gear) for my set up and price range I think what I'm going to do is to buy this then eventually get a preamp and use it strictly as an amplifier then upgrade it even later on lmao
I have vintage 4 ohm AR 58 speakers. Do you think this is the best amp out there for those at the $500 or under range? Thank you for reply
CheapAudioMan! Excuse my ignorance but could I hook up an external pre amp to the Denon AMP? I have a REGA MM MK5 which I used on my vintage pioneer amp which improved the sound sooo much. I also want to keep using it in my new Audio Chain.
At 9:02 you mention that it has no "pre-out" so you can't add an external amplifier; I get the feeling that is different to adding a phono stage via the AUX imput right?
Again excuse the ignorance but I almost had a mini-stroke thinking I spent my money on equipment which won't compliment my current external pre-amp (which was pretty expensive...for me).
Thanks!!
Good day Cheap-audio dude, i bought tis Denon, can you tell me, how to set up, the Denon with a sub combined with the DBR6, i cant get it right, despite your video’s
Greetings from Holland
6007 marantz or this? Speakers are diamond 11.2 please answer
Do you think this would pair well with the rp6000fs, Randy?
Would the PMA-600NE play well with a pair of KEF Q-750 floorstanders? Or it more suited to something smaller like the Q-350's?
I'm not sure Mr. Important. I know the Denon drove the Elac Unifi UB5's very well and they are very low impedence and sensitivity. However, I haven't head the 750's. Often time, towers are actually more sensitive to their bookshelf brothers because of multiple drivers in parallel.
Cheapaudioman love your channel, you mentioned the Elac b6 and said it did well, do you think it will drive a set of Elac f6 tower speakers?
yes for sure.
Good for Rock and Pop. I'm gonna pair with Dali Oberon 3. What does Queen sound like?
Hi Randy! I'm on my way to put together my first hi-fi system and I'd like to know if you think this amp would make a good pair with Elac Debut 5.2. I would play them in a small an low room, so mainly at low volume: if they need to be cranked to sound alive, they are not for me.
Alternatives could be Q3020i or Dali Spektor 2. Greetings from Italy!
Dali Zensor 1 is a better and more fun speaker then Spector 2 and 2nd hand not that expensive either.
Im confused about DAC. if i have a analog input to this receiver via the ports on the back, what does the DAC in this device do? What is the best way to get high quality audio into this receiver?
The DAC takes either an optical (spdif) or coaxial (spdif) from a device such as your tv, computer, or cd player and translates the digital info into analog info internally. If you hook up a cd player via the rca inputs on the back then the cd player is doing the digital to analog conversion. You can bring in high res music through the digital inputs on this device. I hope this helps.
Hi, will this amp be a good pair for Q Acustic Q3020i?
Thank you.
I'm considering buying this to replace my Sony STR 190. Would you consider this Denon to be a step up? I mostly listen to vinyl with Jamo S809s
thank you for answer. Milan.
My pleasure.
Yo Randy, I watch your videos religiously.
My favorite reviews for sure.
Denon pma 600ne paired with Sony Ss cs5. What's your thoughts on that pairing?
I know you like both
@cheapaudioman
How does the 900hne compare to this, are there any noticeable differences in the sound quality? I know that 900hne has a built in streamer.
I wonder how that Pioneer PMA 600 NE compared with a similar priced Yamaha AS 301 or 501...
I’d love to find out for sure.
I just got the Klipsch RP500M and the Sony SCAS9 sub, would this be a good match?
Pma 600ne vs cambridge audio topaz sr20 ? Both cost the same in my country.
will this sound better for 2 channel stereo music vs. Denon X3800/4800 avr....?
thanks.
Would this amplifier go well with some Whaferfale Diamond 12.2 for a small/medium room of 16 m2? greetings from Argentina!
Just order pair of Jamo S809. After this review might order the Denon. Think it would be a good pairing ?
I think it would be just fine although I've never heard the 809's. the 805's were pretty neutral so a little weight on the low end would sound great. The Denon is a nice lush sounding amp.
Im thinking of the same combo with a Rega Planar 1.
@@43nineoutdoors nice
The Denon PMA-600NE or SVS Soundbase?
Love US dollars, this amp in New Zealand is almost $1200
which 7 channel marantz avr were to refering comparison too?
I like Andrew Robinson review much louder and voice clarity is very good
Thxan I was aiming for the moon when I shud be happy with what I have thx
Hallo
Do you find it a bit bright maybe?
If I'll use it with a bright speaker like klipsch ?
Amp isn’t bright. Would be a good match with Klipsch
Randy, can you tell me if I can use a phono pre amp to the denon,
Can I connect a power amplifier to it?
Is the Sony str-dh190 comparable to the Denon pma600ne soundwise? Or is the Denon in another league?
I had the Sony dh190 before the Denon pma 600n and what can I say is that the sony was pretty powerful, (not 2x100w for sure) and detailed, the bass was awfull out of the Sony.
It s only boomy and no body to it.
The Denon on the other hand it s powerfull and the bass is there with a punch. The sount is warm. Although after 6 months the combination with Monitor Audio bronze2 got a little on the bright side when listening to rock. Maybe the speakers are like that. Don t know what happened.
So don t bother with the Sony. The Denon is on the other league.
Though I regret not buying the 800ne when there was only 50 bucks in between. I wanted a sub out that not even now after an year I don t use, and bluetooth that occasionally use.
Don t cheap out.
On my Elac, this one or Onkyo 9150?
I was going to get the Denon but decided on the Cambridge axr100 for $100 more for its looks, watts, reviews. Sounds really nice , only concern is when fan kicks in u can hear it but not when listening to music. But back of my mind, will that fan eventually give out and is it replaceable. Do u know if Denon has a fan ? If so, was it noticeable ? Ran cool ?
don't think the denon has a fan. heat sinks, yes. no fan that I know of
how about a nad 316bbe intergrated in comparsion.
How do you I hook up a mac mini with no digital usb port on this amp?
There are usb to optical adapters available amzn.to/3hkwlyN
@@cheapaudioman Just curious, is there a loss of sound quality when you use adapters?
I have the same question my computer don t have digital ports and i wold like to connect it to Denon PMA-600NE , but how can i do it ?
I have a pair of Klipsch R-820F speakers...how well would this unit push them?
Well. They’re high efficiency so they play well with almost all amps
With your favorite Klipsch rp-600m would you recommend it? ? thanks
I have this combo and it's real sweat and effort-ly smooth...they compliment each other at a high level...sound stage is wide and deep...instrument separation is distinct.
Hello, is the Denon PMA-600NE is a good choice for ELAC Debut 2.0 B5.2 ?
Yeah. For sure. That Elac is one of my favorites.
@@cheapaudioman Is there any better amplifier for a similar price for ELAC?
Can I ask maybe a stupid question...I have a pair of old Magneplanars SMGa that require 4ohm and this Denon amp can do it, just like to know how does the amp work with 4 ohm speakers? any special way to hook up the speakers or a switch on the Denon?
Magnepans are pretty power hungry from a current stand point. However, I think that Steve Guttenberg ran his Maggies with the Denon and it worked fine. Take a look at his review on this. I don't remember a switch for the speaker load on it.
@@cheapaudioman I did watch that review...Just odd when I see some amps say from 4 ohm to 16ohm... If I find out will tell you.
@@mowler8042 I forgot to mention I drive the Elac UB5’s off of the Denon with no problem. The Anthem integrated 225 did bring them up a fair amount but that was also 5 times as expensive.
@@cheapaudioman Ok thank you will see if I can get one in the new year...not too many to choose from price wise to the Denon, have been looking for a Bryston for years for a good deal even the old ones are holding their value.
How would you compare it to Cambridge axa35? Would really like to know if axa sounds better or not. Thanks!
similar sound. way more power.
Thanks for replying! Thinking of getting an QA 3030i with pma 600 OR axa 35 w/ Schiit modi 3. My source would be the Spotify from my smart tv.
what is the phono stage like on the denon?
It's pretty good. Not as good as the emotiva but good enough to get you by until you want to buy something a bit better. Bottom line is that the Denon is a traditional go to market component so there are about 3 markups on it before it gets to you and Denon is still making their requisite profit margin on it so logically, the Emotiva has a more expensive phono amp in theirs. Doesn't always mean it's going to be better, but that's just kind of the facts about the traditional components.
@@cheapaudioman
Roger that, thank you much!
have you tried pairing the Denon PMA 600 with the Klipsch R-51M's?
I did not. I did have the R-51's for a while though. Would be a good pairing but I think there are better speakers out there cheaper than the R-51's. The sony sscs5 i think is actually better than the klipsch.
@@cheapaudioman thanks I did order the sscs5, I was curious about the R-51's cause I am rocking those currently. Great review man keep em coming!
I tried the R51m for a month after starting out with the Sony SSCS-5s. Buy the Sony’s even at full price. The bass on the Klipsch was awful compared to the Sony and the sound stage no where close. They pair up well with this Denon Amp.
I think you will like the Arcam SA10. Its been on sale for 799. I got one and it is so good.
I'd love to give one a listen
I’ve owned the arcam sa10 and the audiolab 6000a is a better amp at that price point , the sa10 has a better Dac but overall I think the denon is much better value at around half the price , the audiolab 6000a sounds a good step up at that price point from the Denon , so if budget important denon vs arcam - go denon . If you want to spend a bit more - audiolab .
@@LightningDyno Just to clear, in no way is the Denon better than the Arcam. From my perspective that is not even close. Can you be sure that is what you're stating? I have all three the SA10, 20, and Denon. The Denon is closer to a standard receiver.
Not trying to disrespectful, But I just really looked at this.
Jay
Hi Jason , I didn’t say the denon was better , I said better value at maybe half the cost of arcam.
I owned the SA10 for about 3 months and sold it on. The Dac section is higher quality with the arcam for sure using a sabre Dac. Digital sources will sound better , a decent analogue source into the denon is not so far off though , I put that that to the test . Also with wharfdale reva speakers I found the SA10 quite flat sounding and a little dull. The guy that bought my SA10 was also not that impressed and even got arcam to check it , they fully tested and reported back it was working fine but he swapped it out for an audiolab in the end. I’ve been told the sa20 is better .
Actually I’m quite a fan or arcam in fact I use an arcam avr350 for stereo now , this wipes the floor with the SA10 in my opinion although to be fair this was a receiver that was several thousand in its day. Anyway maybe the SA10 is better with certain speakers but I found it rather disappointing and although it may be a little better than the denon potentially with the right matching equipment or as a digital amplifier , I didn’t find it to be twice as good as the denon on analogue sources or with a good quality CD player attached - have to say I found the denon more fun in that regard .
I know arcam was taken over by Harman kardon recently , the SA10 not up to some of their previous highly regarded models like the FMJ and the Diva ranges before.
@@LightningDyno That's funny I got a set of 11.2 for my wife's office and I tested the speakers using the Arcam. I agree the speakers were a bit dull. I got her a used NAD 3020 and boom, match perfect.
I have not heard the audiobabs 6000 but I have been told its good. And just to clear the better is the sa20. I have that on a set of KEF R3's Its awesome.
But I do agree for 450 the denon is great. I have not tried the Cambridge for 349. That is tempting but I have enough gear right now. :)
does this hook to a AV Receiver?
can this drive the KEF LS 50 meta?
Hello guys..are there enough inputs to hook up a double tape deck on this amplifier? Thank you!
Yes depending on what else you want to connect. I believe there is also a tape out on here if you want to record for some reason. Thanks for watching!
@@cheapaudioman thank you for your kind reply..I am confused because at the back of this amplifier you get the wording "network", "aux", "recorder" instead of the self-explanatory "tape" that was used in the 80's..
Moon have a remote?
it is ok to use that on a klipsch r-620f?
For sure. Would pair well with them
Good day.
I have a Denon PMA 720, DNP 730 and DCD 520. I play via a Q Acoustic 3020 plus a Q Acoustic 3060S subwoofer. Would I get better sound by buying Denon PMA 600 NE? I listen mainly from NAS in FLAC format, sometimes Spotify and original CDs, genre hard rock and metal, room 20 m square, Thanks Milan
Looks like you have a good system already. If you want something of a different flavor or improved sound quality I would probably look at a different speaker. Not saying the Q’s are bad just saying it may be more cost effective than a new amp and then you could have a bit of a different “flavor” with two different high value bookshelf speakers. I don’t have direct experience with the 720 so I wouldn’t be able to comment. If you are looking to another integrated amp I’d also suggest the Emotiva TA-100 as it has preamp outputs and you could add an external amp later down the line to improve the sound even better.
Yamaha 202 comparable Denon pma 600
What the bass boost/cut Hz
Hell no not another 100hz boost/cut