F1 Fan reacts to NASCAR for the first time
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ย. 2024
- So I’ve been obsessed f1 for a fair while, and I’ve dabbled in watching most other racing series but there's one I’m yet to watch - NASCAR. In today's video I will be reacting to NASCAR'S most unbelievable moments with absolutely zero context, hope you enjoy!
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I love how F1 fans are genuinely confused when it comes to NASCAR 😂
No confusion, just makes zero sense. Yanks do not deal with complex very well.
Because they don't know that cars can have contacts 🤣
Hell I'm confused watching F1.
it would've helped if she had watched the video with audio, she practically didn't 😂
Yeah because theyve never seen real racing before
NASCAR is what we call a "self-policing" motorsport. NASCAR themselves try to keep out of driver conflicts because, for one, throwing penalties every single week will cost teams an unreal amount of money if they scrutinized EVERYTHING, and they know that the drivers know that if they get on someone's bad side that it's coming right back around the next race.
oooh interesting!
This is why I love Nascar more that F1 even though I was a F1 fan first
@@namejeff6090 same man, I see F1 as a little to stuck up.
@@namejeff6090 same man, I see F1 as a little to stuck up.
There are some things NASCAR has to police such as loose wheels, out of specification parts, etc. But for personal beefs it is usually hands off unless it starts getting dangerous. It is OK to rub somebody, but not to out and out ram somebody and endanger their lives.
"He didn't slam into you, he didn't bump you, he didn't nudge. He rubbed you and rubbing son is racing." -Harry Hogge (Days of Thunder)
Love the "learning" scenes in that movie
"Is that a dirty mover or a legitimate tactic?"
Yes.
Exactly. 😂
I highy reccomend watching a Superspeedway race as your first NASCAR race. Daytona, Talladega, and (newly reconfigured) Atlanta are the three tracks where you get the big Pack Racing where everyone is bunched together. Those tend to have the most action. Next Atlanta race is on July 10th.
might tune in and watch Atlanta then!
@NolanEP I just think it's a good introductory race for first time viewers. The 2012 Daytona 500 was my first race. I've been addicted ever since.
@@amycolef1 Talladega and Daytona are where it's at, though. Those races are nuts.
@@amycolef1 you should watch eight things you didn't know about NASCAR which can help you better understand it
Super Speedways are great to see the speed and the noise and like the top of NASCAR but if you want to see who's got skill and you want to see driving and you want to see the bump and run and you want to see sliding in and out of the corner you got to watch a short track Bristol Martinsville Darlington Dover you got to watch a short track
Clip by clip context:
2016 Sonoma: Denny Hamlin was leading heading into the final real corner, when he locked the brakes and Tony Stewart got by. Tony was past his prime and this would be his final career win before retiring at the end of the season, so it was special to see
2015 Martinsville
Jeff Gordon, 4 races away from retirement, won the race for win 93 of his career
2018 Charlotte Roval
Jimmie Johnson, looking to break a looooong winless streak of almost 2 years at that point, went to make a move on Martin Truex but locked the brakes in the final chicane. This was also the road course layout of Charlotte's inaugural race, so it was pretty crazy to see. Jimmie, sadly, never won after Dover in early 2017 before retiring in 2020 and he is racing in Indycar since 2021
2006 Talladega
Brian Vickers won after wrecking Dale Earnhardt Jr and Jimmie Johnson, who were two of the most popular drivers at the time. As expected, this win wasn't too popular with the fans
2009 Daytona
Tony Stewart and Kyle Busch were battling for the win, and Kyle kinda just cleared himself while blocking (which is legal in NASCAR) and Tony won while there was the "big one" behind. At Daytona and Talladega, NASCAR's superspeedways, the big one is highly common because of the pack racing caused by reduced engine horsepower at the tracks to lower speeds for safety reasons
2010 Miami
Denny Hamlin choked away the championship with this incident, something he seemingly does every year in the season finale
2021 Daytona 500
While racing for the lead, Brad Keselowski got a huge push from Michael McDowell, sending him into teammate Joey Logano, sparking this huge wreck on the final lap
2016 Miami
Carl Edwards made an aggressive block, wrecking himself and losing the championship. He would walk away from the sport just like Raikkonen did with F1, however Carl wouldn't return to racing again. Jimmie Johnson also, as a result, won his 7th championship that night :)
2015 Miami
Kyle Busch won his first championship after missing 11 races due to an injury in one of the Daytona big ones
2012 Daytona Shootout
Kyle Busch, after making two of the craziest saves ever, won the race barely over Tony Stewart
2013 Fontana
Joey Logano and Denny Hamlin had one of the best side by side battles for the lead on the last lap, when Kyle Busch just came out of nowhere to win as they wrecked. I believe Hamlin missed a race or two after because he had an ACL tear I believe (I may be wrong on the injury)
2011 Fontana
Jimmie Johnson, Kevin Harvick, and Kyle Busch had a fantastic battle for the win that saw Harvick, nicknamed the Closer for this very reason, win the race
2011 Truck Series Texas
Kyle Busch, out of sheer anger, put Ron Hornaday in the wall on purpose. Making matters worse, Hornaday was a championship contender, while I don't believe Kyle was even allowed to run for truck points back then because he was in the Cup Series (I'm not sure when that rule came into play)
2021 Pocono
Kyle Larson, going for the very rare 4 wins in a row, got a puncture in the final corner allowing teammate Alex Bowman to win. I'm still pissed that I missed seeing this in person, because I had almost gotten tickets but my sister had plans already that day
2018 Chicago
Kyle Busch and Kyle Larson gave us the Kyle and Kyle Show with a full contact last lap duel. No feelings of drivers were harmed in the making of this finish
2007 Daytona 500
This finish is an all time classic because it was close, it had the big one, it was crazy, and Kevin Harvick won it in what was the closest finish in Daytona 500 history. That record would stand until 2016, and currently this finish is still the 3rd closest in the race's history
2001 Daytona
NASCAR returned to Daytona in July 2001 for the first time since the 2001 Daytona 500, the day 7 time champ and GOAT, Dale Earnhardt, died in an accident in the final corner of the final lap. Dale Earnhardt Jr. came from just inside the top 10 to win on a late race restart, in what is considered the most emotional victory (at least to me) in NASCAR history
Hope this helps somewhat and great video
Safe to say that many of us had a tear in our eye when Dale Jr won the Pepsi 400 in '01
Denny Hamlin had a broken vertebrae in his back after the Fontana accident.
Love the description of Hamlin's championship luck. I would also note that Michael McDowell has never been a contender in the cup series outside of that race and maybe a couple others
Hamlin's injury after 2013 Fontana was a collapsed vertebra in his back, and he missed four races while recovering.
For the 2011 Truck incident, Kyle Busch was indeed not eligible to earn Truck series points. 2011 was the very season they implemented that rule, because before that Cup drivers were _constantly_ running lower-series races and eating up all the wins and awards. Imagine if Lewis and Verstappen and Leclerc were running most of the F2 races in top-tier equipment on top of their F1 gigs. That's basically what was happening, and the rule there (that you had to declare for just one series and that was the only series you could earn points in) was meant to try to discourage this practice.
To add on about the actual race incident, NASCAR responded to the incident by slapping Busch with a fine and banning him from the rest of the weekend's events (he had planned to run all three races that weekend).
2007 Daytona 500 is also proof that Mark Martin fans can't have nice things
It is legal to bump people out of the way but blatantly wrecking someone will likely get you penalized. On smaller tracks there will be a lot of bumping and doorslamming which is fine but completely wrecking someone is frowned upon by many unless it is payback. A good video to watch is by S1apSh0es called "8 Things You Probably Didn't Know About NASCAR"
yeah that makes sense! I'll definitely check the vid out!
Rubbing is not racing. That kind of childish thing gets you black flagged in F1.
@@soisaidtogod4248 ._. b0i, contact is a part of racing.
@@soisaidtogod4248 you can keep watching f1 and not nascar then
@@soisaidtogod4248 Rubbing is racing, Harry said so.
If you dig supercars, the new package cup cars starting this year are actually starting to become quite philosophically close to them. What's new? They're still running track-restricted 5.7 liter OHV V8s (that turn beyond 9000rpm) but now they're using hewland style 5 speed sequential transaxles, independent rear suspension, and all the aero packages are left-right symmetrical. Yes, cup cars used to be different left to right to aid in getting around oval tracks, but that assist is gone now along with the old 4 speed top loader (H pattern) and live rear axle. Oh, and pin drive alloy wheels now instead of the old 15" 5 lug steels, at least as long as they can figure out the problem with the new wheels shattering after slight damage. The old wheels would just bend.
Anyhow, racing's much closer than F1 because the cars are horsepower limited at the big speedways to keep the speeds under 200mph, and the aero is slick. The wake of an F1 car is absolutely filthy with vortices and turbulence, but the wake off a cup car is relatively clean and there's a big low pressure area behind the car. Nestling up bumper-close can sometimes speed both cars up a good 5-10mph depending on the given aero package used, and the more the merrier. There's enough spillage that 'side drafting' is a thing too, intercepting spill air and making another low pressure area next to and slightly behind another car, but it's not as effective and you stand the risk of upsetting the other driver. I don't mean emotionally, I mean the airflow actually shoving the car out of it's traction zone causing a spin, without touching it. Big objects moving that fast make a LOT of air move, you can see videos of it blowing things around in the stands sometimes. They don't drive ovals in the rain, but on the road courses it's fascinating to see a car in the rain at the end of a straight dragging a gigantic cloud of spray behind it.
It's important to note that they have not run 900+ hp since 2014. This year they are running 670hp at every track except superspeedways which run 510hp. The last few years they ran 550hp at intermediate ovals, 510hp at superspeedways, and 750hp at short tracks and road courses.
I must say the 550hp intermediate ovals was just terrible racing. They held the throttle wide open the whole time, even around the corners, because the car wasn't fast enough to need to slow down for the corner.
@@thejman3489 I still wonder if they'll add more HP to intermediate tracks in the next or coming seasons. While drivers are definitely lifting and the cars can be hard to drive, I've seen some interviews and reports of the power still being a bit low
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@@zommergames3972 They might. Being the first season of these new cars everything is "test and tune" right now so expect adjustments from NASCAR each year until they get it how they want.
Yes, car to car contact IS legal in NASCAR competition, to an extent. Generally most drivers accept it unless you go too far
In some situations, it's frowned on by drivers and may result in a fight or argument if somebody doesn't like how you raced them, and possibly that driver will look to retaliate at some point in the future.
But intentionally wrecking somebody isn't allowed and can cause NASCAR to fine and suspend you.
NASCAR doesn't do standing starts. They do rolling starts. Oh and every race has a set number of laps.
NASCAR in their top series runs a 670HP OHV naturally aspirated V8. New for this year is a 5 speed sequential transmission.
Yes, most of the NASCAR schedule is composed of ovals, but even then, no two ovals are alike. You've got large high speed ovals like Michigan where engines and top speed at a premium and short ovals like Bristol and Martinsville, that are cramped and lead to lots of car to car contact and pissed off drivers getting into fights. They also run on F1 or V8 supercar style circuits too. Including 3 tracks that HAVE hosted F1 (Watkins Glen, COTA, and Indianapolis)
That Dale Jr win was very emotional as a few months before his legendary father, Dale Earnhardt was killed on the final lap of the 2001 Daytona 500 (which is the biggest race on the NASCAR calendar), held at the same track.
I have a recommendation so you can learn more about it, F1Fan001's "Beginner's Guide to NASCAR" and Ninh Ly's "Rules of NASCAR"
To add to that, that move from the Truck series clip was DEFINITELY illegal and the 18 was parked for the next race.
@@KitsuneGB-hc9zb Wasn’t he parked for the remainder of the race weekend, Xfinity and Cup Series?
@@TNBuckeye1617 Yes. They put Michael McDowell in the 18 for the cup race, but not sure what they did for the Xfinity race.
@@razormc954 the beginner's guide would definitely be helpful!
As a long time NASCAR fan, glad to see you reacting to it. Some people have a hard time getting in to it, but I will say it is so much more fun in person. The sounds and smells and sights. Absolutely so amazing.
I can’t really watch it on the TV, but when they show up to Las Vegas Speedway I always want to show up and watch.
That last clip is special, Dale Jr. winning the 400 was special because it was the first race back at Daytona after Dale Sr’s death in the 500 earlier that year. A moment of healing from such a big blow to the sport.
NASCAR has many different types of tracks, Road Courses, Dirt Tracks, Ovals, Super-Speedways, Short Tracks, Mile and a half’s and then some other fascinating tracks like Pocono!
Now a Street course. just watched SVG win
They raced inside the LA Coliseum(Pre-season) for the love of god...Yes, a NASCAR race in a football stadium.
NASCAR is basically Supercars with a more diverse schedule and more aerodynamics. Also with less exploding gas tanks
10:10 No, it's not legal... the truck series is essentially like F3, with nationwide/xfinity series cars as F2 and the cup series as F1. Drivers are pretty much free to race in the lower series. Now, back in context, Kyle Busch basically threw a tantrum and took out the truck series championship leader, and it cost him $50,000, the other two races that weekend, that M&M sponsorship, and likely his job at Gibbs Motorsports as he came back with a new self-owned team the next year.
It was a pretty big deal, it was only the third time ever NASCAR had to sanction a driver across series.
A lot of 'activities' are looked past while racing, but if someone acts or retaliates under caution or other controlled conditions, they're liable to find their wallet significantly lightened, and possibly have some new openings in their personal schedule.
To be fair, Joe Gibbs Racing's truck program was shut down eventually with Kyle Busch's team basically replacing it as Toyota's main development program. Mars Inc. (M&M's) has also continued to sponsor him and is only now stopping after this year due to them leaving the sport. In reality, all he really lost was 50K and two races
id say the truck series is more like FE. But the other ones (xfinity = F2 and Cup series = F1) are spot on analogies
I would have done the same thing as Kyle
NASCAR drivers tend to be more willing to take a chance that may seem sketchy as hell than their open wheel counterparts. This is because in the open wheel form, you have to protect the tires from touching anything, thereby protecting the suspension systems and front wing. NASCAR on the other hand the tires and suspension systems are protected by the bodies of the cars and there is no front wing. Instead they have this big bumper that, sometimes, makes a great way to get someone out of your way, hence the term "chrome horn" for the front bumper at tracks like Richmond, Martinsville, Darlington, and Bristol.
The term “chrome horn” comes from the 50s and 60s when most cars had front bumpers made of chrome, just look up a 50s, 60s, or 70s car and you’ll see what I’m talking about
I was a hardcore F1/Indy Car fan for most of my life. I only watched NASCAR when they raced Sonoma and Waktins Glen because they were doing more than left turns. It took me going to an actual race (Atlanta spring race of 2002) for me to get hooked. I literally watched the leader of the race go nearly to the back of the field all because he changed a set of tires. There is so much that is not visible to the naked eye until you really dive into the little nuisances that happen during a race. That is what is fascinating to me even to this day. However, I do have to leave a few quotes below for you when you watch another NASCAR clip that involves "rubbing".
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From the movie, "Days of Thunder":
Harry Hogge: Cole, you're wandering all over the track!
Cole Trickle: Yeah, well this son of a bitch just slammed into me.
Harry Hogge: No, no, he didn't slam you, he didn't bump you, he didn't nudge you... he *rubbed* you. And rubbin, son, is racin'.
I highly recommend watching it!
Fast is lose, and on the edge of out of control.
The 2020 Bristol night race had the best battle for the lead I have ever seen. They had a restart with 100 laps left and Kevin Harvick and Kyle Busch battled through lapped traffic, swapped the lead a couple of times, and no one gave an inch all the way to the checkered flag.
Ive seen so many *european" racing fans create these reaction videos of nascar, most of them being after nascar ran lemans. That appearance opened their eyes up to the sport, what nascar did at lemans was impressive, to see the appreciation in racing fans around the world, to see how these cars are teuly used, its pretty cool to see.
Always enjoy having someone new coming into NASCAR! Welcome and I hope you’ll stick around with us 😁
It's definitely different. Don't kid yourself some of these guys are really good. In open wheels you do this the cars will fly into pieces. Just watch you'll enjoy it.
I highly suggest watching a “radioactive” episode! It’s a race recap but has all audio from drivers and everyone involved. It’s really fun to watch and shows you how the sport works
you should check out the highlights for the 2022 Coca-Cola 600 from a few weeks ago, one of the most action packed and intense races i’ve ever watched, across all forms of motorsport
That racing is what will bring in new fans
Most entertaining race of the big 3 that day as well
4 hours of life wasted, use of commercial breaks hiding as a yellow flag. The three laps to get those old setups up to speed.
Yeah I was there, it was intense
@@soisaidtogod4248 nah that was the greatest race of the season, invalid opinion
If you're interested, I recommend watching guys like S1apSh0es, NFJJ, The IceBerg, and Black Flags Matter if you want to learn more about NASCAR history as they've all made plenty of videos on it.
Bumping the bumper is mainly to push a car up the track not necessarily wreck them. It’s a tactic to make someone drive deeper into a corner or get them to get loose.
The current annual NASCAR circuit has 6 road course races. Three tracks double as an oval and road course. Daytona, Charlotte, and Indy. They used to race the Indy oval, and that was called the Brickyard 400, but last year they started racing the inner road course portion. Charlotte has what they call the Roval, which maintains a good portion of the oval, but has a pretty windy part that starts and ends pretty close together near the start finish line. I think there's a chicane on the back stretch, but I'm not sure. That one clip of the two leadsrs wrecking right before the finish line was from the inaugural race at the Roval. That whole race was crazy, as it was the first race on that track as everybody was missing their braking points, and running off. The track other 3 tracks on the circuit are dedicated road courses. Circuit of the America's (or COTA), Sonoma, and Watkins Glen. COTA is in Austin, TX and was actually built for Indy Car in mind., but F1 also races on it. However either last year, or year before, NASCAR started racing on it. First year it rained during the race and it was a mess. Even with rain tires the cars were all over the place. Sonoma is out in Cslifornia, due north of San Francisco across the San Pablo Bay. It was the very first clip of this video. Watkins Glen is in Western New York state, due north of Harrisburg, Pennsylvania.
NASCAR tends to group its races into regions. So like they'll do a West Coast Tour which includes a handful of tracks in the western states. And then they'll swing back east for most of the rest. Most tracks are on the east side of the Rocky Mountain Range. You gotta take this into account as the US is so big and the teams have to truck their cars everywhere and it takes a couple days to get across country. You finish one race on Sunday, and you immediately pack up and head to the next venue.
On bumping. “Is that dirty or a legitimate tactic?”
Yes.
It's a legitimate tactic rubbing is racing
Cheating to win is loser thinking.
You summed it up quite nicely at the beginning of the video. NASCAR is a contact sport.
I’m a huge f1 fan like you but I grew up watching nascar as I’m from America and the coverage is much better for nascar than f1. But I will say the 18 car IMO is more often than not a villain the way that he drives as you may have seen. For example, when he wrecked the other truck in the truck series race 10 years ago, he did that out of anger and was disqualified from the race and the rest of the weekend for that. That reputation has followed him his whole career. With that said, there’s a whole bunch of interesting drivers to get into just like in F1. Great video and I’m glad to have discovered your channel 👍🏻😁
NASCAR is great! I first got into it when still lived in Australia and it was live on Fox Sports. Completely different to any other racing series! And some of the most competitive racing! 😊
The incident at 9:50 in your video, NASCAR did actually take action against the driver who wrecked him, but for the most part they let the drivers beat, bang, and bump into each other as long as it's not overly aggressive.
11:20 it's both a legitimate tactic and a dirty move, and the 'mover' can usually expect to pay for it later.
Nascar is a “self policing sport”, the drivers take car of each other, if you wreck someone, you expect to get wrecked back
It's funny when you said that you thought NASCAR only ran on ovals, on that track that questioned yourself. Well, that track is the Charlotte International Raceway, which as of 2018 I think, introduced a new road course part of the track inside the oval part. The particular race in question however is called The Rovel, which is literally a mix between road course and oval track. The use a good portion of the oval, but along the front stretch there is an entrance and exit to the internal road course part. There's also a chicane along the back stretch, and that other little curvy part coming off the oval part. It's a really tough track to drive as the road coarse part has some weird elevation changes creating some nasty blind turns.
But speaking about road courses in general, NASCAR currently has 6 road courses on its annual circuit. Up from 4 from just before the pandemic. Let's see, there's Watkins Glen, Sonoma, The Roval, Road America, Circuit of the Americas, and Mid Ohio, I think is the last one. COTA is in Austin, TX and was specifically built for F1 and Indy cars. They added that track just last year.
Also the Indianapolis road course
The 1st clip you showed was my favourite driver getting his last win in NASCAR. :) A day I'll never forget.
"Is that legal?'
Most of the time, yes! But the truck one was not legal and Kyle Busch was parked for the rest of that weekend's races.
9:10 NASCAR has a set number of laps for each race. They take the length of the track and the race distance (400 miles, 500 miles, etc) to determine how many laps they have to race. But those who get lapped (or crash or have engine issues and go to the garage) their race finishes when the last car on the lead lap crosses the finish line. They do this because each lap is a point towards the standings, so if they waited for every car to finish all the laps then they'd be there for a lot more hours.
F1 going into the first corner of a race is what nascar is for the entire race.
SOUND DIFFERENCE IS BECAUSE THE CRANK SHAFT
A NASCAR uses a Cross Plan Crankshaft.
F1 uses a Flat Plane Crankshaft.
Same with American cars vs European V8s. Cross have higher torque at low end, Flat have a higher peak rpm and rev quicker.
Also 13:15 that’s one of the most iconic moments in nascar history some back story Dale Earnhardt sr was one of nascars biggest drivers 7x champion and 76 wins one of his sons Dale jr would become insanely popular from the moment he started in the first race in the 2001 season the Daytona 500 Dale Earnhardt while running 3rd one the final lap crashed while trying to protect his son Dale jr ruining 2nd and longtime friend Michael waltrip who was going for his first win, sr didn’t survive the crash and to this day several longtime Dale sr fans haven’t come back but this race was at Daytona July 2001 same track as the one where sr lost his life and jr won while waltrip finished 2nd
I remember watching that live.
Thanks for the reaction video! Been a Nascar fan most of my life and have recently started following F1!
9:37 this one was absolutely uncalled for!
3:12 The engines used in NASCAR are big block V8 engines. Each engine is 358ci (Cubic Inches (which is 5.9L)) displacement and in 2012 they moved away from using carburetors to using EFI instead. The engines use headers instead of exhaust manifolds like you would see on commercial car and truck engines, and also forgo using catalytic converters or mufflers. This results in very loud engine noises and the distinct sound you hear vs the sound the smaller displacement V6s that F1 uses.
NASCAR used to be mostly ovals with only 2 road courses, Sonoma Raceway and Watkins Glen. In recent years it still is mostly ovals, but they've added a few more road courses which include Circuit of the Americas, which is where the U.S. GP is held, Road America, Indianapolis, and Charlotte Roval.
Nascar is such an event if you go to the track. The sound is unlike anything you can imagine, its really Loud, so loud you can FEEL the sound going throught you. If you have never been to a race, just go to one race weekend and sit in the first 30 rows of an oval.
One thing about nascar is there is a lot more endurance evolved since the races are 500 miles long (The longest one is 600 miles) which means the races will be 3 hours plus long. The racers do make very aggressive moves and most of the time they don't get fined or panelized.
Thanks for reacting with an open mind! A lot of these clips had either Kyle Busch and/or Kyle Larson who are both two of the best current drivers, honestly maybe even the 2 best right now, and it's shown within the clips as Busch is in nearly all of them. Busch will always be underrated because his personality is *terrible* and has made some stupid decisions on the track and won't even own up to it when an honest accident is his fault so 99% of the fanbase hates him, but once you get past that he's actually a really good driver as far as skill goes. Busch is the 18 car, normally sponsored by M&M's or Interstate Batteries that snuck into a lot of these clips. Kyle Larson was the 42 for his first handful of years in the sport, but now races the 5 car.
10:40 clip shows this perfectly. They are two guys who will do whatever it takes to win while still trying to race fair and give the other guy a chance to finish 2nd... Most of the time. Busch is iffy on that. In a race last year Larson found himself in second on the final lap of a shorter track where you have to slow down to make the turns, and with nothing else to do, the leader just out of reaching distance, he floored the throttle into the last turn and just ran against the wall, hoping he could carry enough speed and somehow get around the leader. He actually almost got there, but ultimately ended up still finishing in second. On the radio he apologized for tearing up the car and said "I tried to video game it." Maybe try checking out some best NASCAR radio moments sometime!
For most of NASCAR's history, they would race at at least two road courses(track with flat banking and left and right turns) every year up until 2018 where they added the Charlotte Roval(road course + oval) which resembles Daytona's infield course. The races have a set distance and unless rain or lack of sunshine is the only reason it will end early. After 2003 they added a rule where they will have extra laps(overtime) to keep the race from ending up under caution. The bigger pack racing is because to keep the speeds at a safe level(195mph/313kmph instead of 220/354kmph) by adding a restrictor plate on the carburetor to limit air flow.
2:45 this one’s actually a hybrid of an oval and a road course
Dale Earnhardt was famous (or infamous) for the "Bump And Run" bumping people in the rear quarter panel and zooming past them. That earned him the nickname The Intimidator
I know this is an old video, but the close cars are on "restrictor" plate tracks. Nascar regulates EVERYTHING and puts a restrictor plate on the engines which cuts the horse power down significantly. Otherwise they would exceed 200MPH on the super speedways. So to get maximum speed, they draft where 1 car gets behind another and that front car breaks the wind for the car behind, in which the behind car is able to go faster and bump draft the car in front, making everyone go fast but also stay very close at around 195mph. A single car on the super speedways goes around 182-185MPH for comparison.
I think among European fans there is a lot of misconception about NASCAR; "Ah they just go in circles where's the skill in that?" Well I'd challenge some of those same people to try it. Try going 3 wide into a corner at 200 mph and say there's little to no skill involved. It's a harsh sport; with unforgiving concrete walls that shove you back into the pack if you hit them. And that to me is the worst part; it makes it dangerous beyond belief.
And even the ovals they race at all require different skills
This is my first season of watching nascar and I’m really obsessed lol. But yeah I like that it’s more of a contact sport and how you can bump people out of the way and stuff like that. Great video!
There's a saying in NASCAR, rubbin' is racing. You have to remember, NASCAR is a stock car series so there are fenders so you can beat and bang unlike open wheel racing.
nascar has a lot to offer for the fans, from great racing, great laughs and great rivalries, my favorite rivalry is jeff gordon vs clint bowyer, the moments from this rivalry is always talked about
There are different track types in NASCAR, and they are:
Tri-Ovals (Daytona and Talladega; common on Speedway tracks)
Ovals (used for short tracks/intermediates like Martinsville, Chicagoland, etc.)
Rovals (A road course on an Oval or Tri-Oval Racetrack, like Charloette)
Road Course (racetracks with 4+ turns and require right turns, like Sonoma and Watkins Glen)
You look like you had a real good time watching this you pick some of the best crashes in NASCAR racing that has taken place over the years past enjoy all kinds of racing😊
If you’re just getting into nascar, I myself, would recommend watching the 2003 Darlington race. Yes it’s an old race but the broadcast is great. NASCAR has posted the full race on TH-cam so it’s also easy to access. That race is basically the definition of NASCAR
Isn't that where "Have you ever?" "No, i've never" comes from?
@@marvinlinnarz5856 yeah
It's nice to see cars pass each other on the track and not on pit stops and different drivers win instead of the same guy every race F1 is nice to watch when you are having a hard time getting to sleep it will put you right out
Pushing and shoving in NASCAR is legal and accepted until it’s not. At some tracks drivers will bump draft each other to gain an advantage. When a driver goes too far, other drivers will police them with the officials taking a hands off approach unless the revenge is especially reckless or occurs under caution or after the race or just goes on too long (either in the same race or in too many races). Here’s a video about the art of revenge in NASCAR: th-cam.com/video/7RjAWFDL3fA/w-d-xo.html
NASCAR Engines are OHV V-8 engines, if I am not mistaken, they are currently limited to 5.9 liters of displacement - but their power output is currently restricted by rule.
Current top speeds are in the 190mph+/300kph+ range.
Some of these races are older - so some details would be different.
But yes, the sound is of big V-8s.
Most races are on oval tracks, but there are some "road" courses thrown in.
The last clip, that moment at the Pepsi 400 is enough to make a grown man cry like a baby.
It might not look it, but aerodynamics are very important in nascar mainly on the long tracks. On the long tracks you will see drafting, a bunch of cars lined up with about a foot or so between them going 200 mph. Sometimes a driver can get close to another driver, screw with the air flow and down pressure and cause the car to spin out. I am reminded of an interview with a driver Juan Pobalo Montoya on the difference between F1 or Indy (I don't remember which he raced) and nascar. He said the races are longer, the handling is completely different, the pit stop strategy is very different. On the handling, he said the open wheel cars are way more responsive and there is control over the spoilers. In Nascar, he said he truns the wheel and hopes the car will turn.
"why does this happen?"
the cars are HEAVY
they do 200 mph (about 325kph)
the brakes are SMALL
and the aero is TOUCHY
you get up under a guys rear bumper and his rear end goes light, he loses his aero..
if youre an F1 fan you know how catastrophic it is to lose aero under braking or in a corner
Been watching NASCAR for years from the UK, and the bump and run is very common in races on speedways it to make a driver go faster than he wants
The small bumps are legal and actually have there own technical term its called the Bump N Run the idea is that a slight amount of contact with the rear of the car ahead will make the rear of that car go up and create wheelspin or the bump make the car unstable causing the driver to move up the track and lift making it easy for the car behind move them up the track and complete the overtake without being held up.
As a person from America who grew up watching nascar and now in my teens I absolutely love F1 it’s just a lot more exciting to me than nascar.
Longtime Nascar fan here got into f1 because of drive to survive, been a fan for 2 years now. Jimmie Johnson is my favorite driver.
The thing with contact: everybody loves contact in which no one wrecks. Then there’s legal contact and ugly legal contact. Beyond that, drivers are fined and/or suspended.
On some of the bumps that you saw-there's a philosophical difference between giving someone enough of a tap that it upsets the car but the driver can catch it, and hitting someone hard enough that you know you're wrecking them. The first one is generally considered OK, while the other isn't.
So to answer a few questions, yes Bumping is a legit tactic, to a certain extent. What happened in the truck race with the 18 and 33, completely illegal and the 18 was parked for that reason. However typically NASCAR tends to have a anything goes when ur going for the win midset, it may seem dirty but it’s so common and accepted that most drivers just run with it and it’s kind of a rule of thumb/mentality that if you don’t want to be bumped, just don’t let them get to your bumper 🤷♂️
As for my advice with the sport, pick a favorite driver to run with, that’s the best way to enjoy it. It can be any type, lovable underdogs, we got those, legends of the sport, yup, weekly threats to win, for sure, young up and comers, check, villains and bad boys, absolutely, drivers you feel you can relate to, For sure. A lot of the big names of the sport right now were in that video and you can use it to maybe find your favorite, if not watch a race, maybe a little bit of the pre and post race as well, and see what drivers personalities really stick out to you.
And also important to remember that NASCAR is like F1 in a sense that… some races are like Monaco 2022, they just suck. And then some tracks are like Silverstone 2022 and they’re awesome, so don’t let a bad race necessarily lead you to think that a lot of them are like that, if anything the existence of bad races only makes the good ones that much better.
Also I recommend some of the awesome NASCAR youtubers who have great informational NASCAR videos. S1apsh0es, Black Flags Matter, and Iceberg are the best when it comes to shorter informational videos, while Brock Beard is great if your looking for longer, more documentary like vids
Love that there was a whole segment for Kyle Busch lol. I would've thought Jimmy Johnson but hey. Really enjoyable and made me want to get back into NASCAR.
Nascar, and stock car racing in general is what I like to call a "win at all cost" sport particularly when a championship is on the line
So for me, while I don't necessarily appreciate when another driver wrecks my favorite driver, I absolutely understand and love when drivers are aggressive
The tactic of hitting a cars back bumper is called a bump and run and is legal and a legit tactic, you can’t intentionally wreck the other driver though. But as long as it’s used to get the car in front just loose enough to get them out of the way and slow them down or break a block. Also, NASCAR is the last remaining series in all of motorsports that still has a naturally aspirated V8. At least for now because they plan on going with a turboed V6 here in the near future because the 2 of the 3 potential new manufacturers said they wouldn’t enter until they made the move.
Side note: NASCAR runs 40 cars so if one wrecks it’s a lot harder to avoid the wreck which causes more wrecks.
These are at typically at speeds of 120-210 MPH (193-337km/h), and aero is much different with these cars than F1, where the wings provide much more aero downforce than the stock car bodies can provide. Stock cars are less precise, and move around through the air at speed. Even the air pressure as one moves around other competitors can change the handling of the cars.
NASCAR Cup Series runs a 36 race season. 6 of those are on road courses. The rest are on ovals of various lengths and configurations. Physical contact between cars is the inevitable result of the chaotic nature of racing. The difference for NASCAR is that the cars can take a lot of punishment and keep racing.
yes bump and runs are part of the racing, you do it to upset the car just a bit so the guy in front has to get out of the gas so you can pass him, crashing someone on purpose you can get suspended and fined, a lot of the crashes are because they are drafting and you have to get close for drafting, sometimes the crashes are because the car your beside will take the air off your car and you get loose
NASCAR engines are made from the three different manufactures, Toyota, Ford, and Chevrolet. The specifications in place for them are 358 Cubic inch (5,867CC) V-8s making about 900HP NA at 10,000 RPM. Though the power has been dropped in recent years due to safety concerns from the sports higher ups and car package rule makers. They are still capable of 900HP. They still do rev to to about 9,800 PRM nowadays
The last clip of the video was emotional win for Dale Earnhardt Jr. few months after his father passed away at Daytona 500 2001 on the last lap of the race. Those Gen4 cars was pretty cool with aerodynamic(Dr. Gas Boom tube X pipe on Superspeedway not the engine) before switched to Gen5 cars in 2008(wings)-2012(back to spoiler). On your future video you should check out the brand new NextGen race of this year Amy!
Nascar races are majority Ovals. All varying in sizes, distances and surfaces. BUT over the years Nascar drivers have been vocal about wanting more road course racing. This was really heavily pushed many years back by people like Tony Stewart and Jeff Gordon who both had a lot of success on road courses. As such the past few years Nascar has been adding more road courses to the top two series. With last year having I think a total of 9 road course races. And this year having 8. And there's also talks of next year having 9 again with one of those being a race in the streets of Chicago. So while Oval's are Nascar's home/Origin, it seems that the sport is currently in a evolutionary period where more road courses are coming in. And ovals are being rotated in and out with those courses. So we'll be seeing a lot more variety of tracks in the series in the future.
Contact is allowed as long as its not to excessive. Some drivers don't mind a little bumping and rubbing while others feel that you should race clean no matter what. Its all down to every individual drivers personalities. Example is Joey Logano and Tony Stewart wrecked some years back for a race win and ended in a fight. And compared to a race a few weeks ago with Brisco and Tyler Reddick... they wrecked on the last corner of the last lap... both apologized to each other shook hands and talked it out since they both knew they were going for the win.
It all just comes down to each individual in that aspect.
Stock cars are half the width of a formula 1 car but weight twice as much, hence the name stock car. And stock car racing is basically a contact sport since the build of the cars makes it much easier to maintain control if you're bumped than it would be in an open wheel car, so bumping and pushing is as much a part of the sport as turning left. Short track races are just 200 miles of 40 cars slamming into each other
I live close to the Daytona International Speedway. In January there is the Rolex 24 hours at Daytona. At night I can hear the cars on the track. I went to High School 1 mile from the track, Ferrari leased the track to test a new car. The teachers couldn't talk over the roar of their engines.
NASCAR Uses a 5.86L (358 cu in) naturally aspirated V8 with plans to couple a hybrid to it in the future. NASCAR Also runs on between 6 and 8 road courses in a season including Circuit of the Americas which hosts the US Grand Prix and Watkins Glen which formerly hosted the US Grand Prix from 1961 to 1980. All of NASCAR's ovals are different in terms of shape, distance, surface, or banking and the road courses speak for themselves.
ok. as an extream nascar fan, this was cool, and i will answer a question of urs , the one is that "pushing/ wrecking ppl," is kinda a tactic, but they dont necessarly do it on those kinds of tracks that the 18 and 42 did, mostly short racks, this move s known as the bump n' run.
Sorry for the massive comment, I can't help but ramble lol
To expand on The Anonymous AcclerDew's comment, "beating and banging" has long since been a part of NASCAR. It's one of the benefits of being in a full sized, 3,500 pound closed wheel car. Cars can go 170, 180 MPH and bounce off each other without too much worry whereas in open wheel racing like F1 and IndyCar, if the same was done, there's a very real possibility that you'd pop a tire or break something and send both cars tumbling and flying down the track at 190-200 MPH (this also enables the cars to still be drivable even after crashes that would total an F1 car).
While similar things can happen in NASCAR (have you ever seen a 3,500 pound car fly through the air like it's a piece of paper?), the enclosed space also means enhanced protection for the drivers, with many of the current safety features having been implemented after Dale Sr.'s death at the 2001 Daytona 500 and having resulted in Dale Sr. being the last death in the sport directly caused by events during a single race (meaning not due to collective injuries sustained over the course of years of racing), whereas four F1 drivers have died in the same span of time.
However, as he stated, taking it too far is frowned upon by both drivers and NASCAR, especially on tracks like Talladega and Daytona, where there is plenty of space. While NASCAR has fined and suspended drivers for car to car contact, they generally stay hands off because it's usually a self correcting problem. The following example does have NASCAR getting involved but in a meaningless way and their involvement changed little.
In 2015, a driver named Joey Logano once essentially cost another driver named Matt Kenseth his chance at the championship (thanks to the stupid, gimmicky playoffs format) by bumping him out of the way and causing Kenseth to go sideways, dropping him back multiple places. What's notable about this is Joey was already locked into the next round of playoffs from winning a previous race whereas Matt pretty much HAD to win the race to stay in contention.
There was zero reason for him to do this aside from the fact he thought he could get away with it. Matt had always been a "turn the other cheek" kind of guy, saying regards to other driver deliberately costing him races and positions that "it was just a bad day, we'll strive to do better next time". However, this time, Matt had run out of cheeks to turn, saying after the race about Logano's decision to bump him out of the way "to me, strategically, that doesn't seem like such a great decision for him". After the next race ended with him being eliminated from contention, Matt also no longer had any way at all to win the championship and thus no longer had anything to lose.
During the next race, Matt found himself in the same position Logano had found himself in two weeks previously in relation to Matt, sitting on Logano's rear left corner. Again, with nothing to lose, Matt obviously and blatantly hit Logano's rear left quarter panel and drove him sideways into the wall. This cost Logano his chance at the championship. There was no question Matt had done this deliberately and NASCAR suspended Matt for the next two races but it meant nothing at this point as Matt was 100% not going to win the championship anyway. Also of note is while this might be seen as an "unsportsmanlike" move, the crowd at the time, who despised Logano for being a jerk while acting innocent, loved it and basically gave Matt a standing ovation for ruining Logano's shot at the title, which can be seen on videos of the crash.
The moral of the story is if you deliberately cost someone a race due to beating and banging, there's a high likelihood that they'll do it to you when the time is right, thus most drivers refrain from going to far. A channel named EmpLemon has an entire video dedicated to seven different occasions where drivers dished out revenge on someone who had wronged them, usually due to beating and banging. It's worth the 38 minutes of your time.
Also, while it is correct all NASCAR races have a set number of laps, how many laps actually take place can change. For example, if a race is halfway over (say, 260 out of 500 laps) and the race is stopped due to heavy rain, the field is frozen. If the race cannot be restarted "within a reasonable amount of time", then whoever was first at the time of the stoppage is declared the winner. Obviously this is very vague and NASCAR has both waited for multiple hours to restart and finish a race (usually meaning the race is finished well after the sun has set) and on the other hand, there have been times where they have pretty quickly said "Yep, no, race is over." and called it despite having plenty of time to wait and lights at the track to enable night racing.
The primary reason for the massive pileups in NASCAR is the pack racing brought on by the use of restrictor plates at super speedway races, which pretty much make it impossible for cars to pull away from each other, which means when one car wrecks, there's often anywhere from 2 to ten cars within just a few dozen feet of them. It used to not be like this, like once when a driver named Bill Elliott made up the 5 miles between himself and first to win the 1985 Winston 500 without the aid of a caution flag or the draft. He was just that much faster than everyone else.
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An almost perfect case of the bump and run, obviously named because the tactic involves bumping your opponent to cause them to lose traction and enabling you, who ideally has lost zero traction and therefore speed, to run away with a gained position. In cases like these NASCAR rarely gets involved as it's seen as just a part of racing. Dale Sr was one of the more famous users of the tactic, his aggressive driving earning him the nickname of "The Intimidator" by literally intimidating his opponents with the threat of a bump and run to freely let him pass lest he MAKE them let him pass.
If you've read all of this, again I'm sorry. I just always have a lot to say lol
Thanks, I was just trying to explain to her some of the basic concepts, I figured she'd be able to understand everything you said after watching a race once she knows the basics
The tl;dr version of contact in NASCAR.
Unlike open wheeled series like F1, the cars are built to beat and bang against each other. On certain tracks, like the big superspeedways (Daytona and Talladega), it can actually be helpful. The cars tend to be very dependent on the draft at high speeds, and it's really hard to make a big move on your own. "Bump drafting" the car in front of you can give him a huge boost of speed, and he can pull you along behind him in his draft. Then there's what they call the "chrome horn," or letting the guy in front of you know he needs to move with your bumper. If you have the faster car and get a good run, and the other guy doesn't want to let you by, roughing him up a little bit to express your displeasure is completely normal. What you're not supposed to do is intentionally spin him out, also known as the "dump and run." It's not usually penalized, but it's a good way to piss off both fans and drivers alike. If you make a habit of dumping the guy in front of you, you're going to find that everyone else is all that much more willing to dump you. No one likes racing around an asshole.
What will get you penalized is intentionally wrecking people under caution, after the race is over, or if you're not actively fighting for position. NASCAR is pretty good about letting drivers handle the problem children on their own, but there are pretty strict limits to what you can and can't get away with. There have been cases where drivers got wrecked early on in a race, got their car fixed enough to come back out on the track, and went out with the sole intention of wrecking the person that wrecked them. That's a good way to get parked and lose points.
Yup, a certain amount of contact is legal in NASCAR. It's pretty unavoidable, considering how close they are to each other.
They are all running 358ci/5.9L, OHV, V8s, making between 500 - 750 hp depending on race, restrictions, etc.
You should watch when some of the NASCAR and F1 drivers have swapped cars and driven each other's cars and there is some really really cool comparisons and takeaways between some great F1 drivers and some of the best Nascar drivers of all time
Kimi Raikkonen racing in the truck series was fun. He's going to do the cup race at the Glenn in August.
@@acehigh79 Daniel Kvyat is also going to race for Team Hezeberg as well as helio castroneves most likely racing soon
I'm a big NASCAR fan, so I'm on the other side of the coin. I've watch some F1 and IndyCar, but primarily watch NASCAR all my life (56 years old).
I was a big fan of the John Player Special (JPS) Lotus cars (back in the day) with Mario Andretti.
There is a phrase that is used for the bumping and grinding of NASCAR..."rubbin' is racing". A little bumping is fine, but if you straight out "fence" someone...it is frowned upon. For the most part, the driver's police themselves. If something is straight out really bad, then NASCAR will step in, but for the most part...most of what you saw was drivers trying to win the race...and in doing so...they can crash themselves and others our of contention.
Now, this type of racing is acceptable at the end of the race...racing for the win...especially now with Stage Racing, but it is NOT okay for THAT type of aggressive driving on lap 20 of a 400 lap race.
Thanks for this video. Your reactions were a lot of fun.
Amy, here is a little clip from the latest race at Road America (road course).
th-cam.com/video/NvH-ngTrevY/w-d-xo.html
The first part of the clip is where Bubba Wallace in the 23 runs Joey Lagono in the 22 off the course for an incident that occurred earlier in the race...when Joey Lagono ran Bubba Wallace off the course. This was one driver telling the other driver that he didn't like that one bit. All legal.
Dale Earnhart Jr. is the main color commentator. In the inset box on the right, he's in the middle with the glasses. He really knows this kind of racing...really well.
Then the end of the race with the darling of the the sport (fan favourite) Chase Elliott in the 9 and the young driver, Tyler Reddick of the 8 (who's never won a Cup Series race...the highest level in NASCAR) win his first race against one of the best road course drivers in NASCAR.
It was a great race, but Reddick just had the better car...at this point in the race.
Hope you enjoyed this.
the two saves by the #18 M&Ms car were at almost 200 mph which is about 320 kph on slick tires. They only have treaded tires in the rain.
If you like F1 style road racing then you would like where the Cup series is racing this weekend: Road America. It’s a great road course venue and has great racing in general.
For some context, because several of the early clips show recent NASCAR legends' late career highlights and others are pretty contextual for why they're some of the greatest moments.
First clip is of Tony Stewart's (14 and 20) final race win at Sonoma just before his retirement.
The second show's Jeff Gordon's (24) final victory before his retirement, which happened to be the second-to-last race he ran and allowed him to race for a fifth championship for his final race at Homestead.
The third show's when Jimmy Johnson (48) could have stayed in second place to lock in a chance to advance in the championship for his 8th title two years before his retirement and ended up ending his chances entirely by missing the playoff cutoff because of his mistake.
The clip at 5:00 shows two teammates racing for the win at the Daytona 500 wrecking one another (which in part led to the #2 driver leaving his team at the end of the year) and allowing a C-grade team driver to win his first and so far only race win he has.
5:46 shows the when Carl Edwards (19) protecting his preferred line from another championship contender (there are only 4 at Homestead, and this was the final race of the year) with ten laps to go. If he had won, it'd have been his first championship. He ended up announcing retirement in the off season unexpectedly and as a fairly young driver. This race also ended up with JJ (48) winning his 7th and final championship, tying him with the only two other drivers in NASCAR history to have 7, Richard Petty and Dale Earnhardt Sr.
And finally the last clip of the video shows Dale Earnhardt Jr. (8 and 88) race to win the 2001 Daytona Coke 400 at Daytona. This was only a few months after he lost his father at Daytona at the first race of the year (Daytona 500). Sr. was protecting the field from getting to DEJ (8) and Michael Waltrip (15) and was wrecked at turn 4 which took his life. Waltrip ended up winning his first Daytona 500 with DEJ taking second. At the 400, the two (who were teammates driving for Dale Earnhardt Incorporated) reversed their order and DEJ won.
To answer your question: Nascar engines are 357ci (5 liter) V8s that are tuned down to 550 horsepower on the superspeedways of Talladega, Atlanta, and Daytona, but make 670 horsepower everywhere else. It was up to 750hp at normal tracks in the previous years.
357 cubic inches is not 5 liters, 306 cu.in. is. 357 ci is 5.85 liters.
The last clip was dale earnhardt Jr winning and saying I love you dad. His dad died on that same track.
LOL that Jeff Gordon win truly is one of the greatest moments in NASCAR but without any context, it probably looks completely insignificant.
Nascar races on both ovals and road courses, the roval is a road course inside a traditional oval
One advantage NASCAR has over F1 is you can identify each driver by the cars paint job, sponsor on the hood, and car number on the roof.
I didn't used to remember these, but I swear there's a handful of these I remember watching when I was little and being upset if anything bad happened to the 48 car
In response to your question what engines they use they used to be V8's; not sure about now though but they sound like they still could be. I believe they're injected units now but go back to as late as the earyly 00's they still used to be carburettors. And still got the same 800bhp that F1 cars get.
'Bump & Run' is a legit tactic.
love to see people reacting to Nascar for the first time! welcome to the sport!
There's 4 types of tracks/courses currently in NASCAR but each has a different subsections and different shapes. This'll be a lot of info but I'll try my best to simplify.
Flat tracks (Martinsville, New Hampshire, Nashville, Phoenix, Pocono, Richmond, World Wide Technology)
Steep tracks (Bristol, Dover, Darlington, Homestead-Miami, Las Vegas)
Large oval (Fontana, Charlotte, Kansas, Michigan, Texas)
Restrictor plate/tapered spacer (to prevent from going too fast for safety purposes) (Talladega, Daytona, Atlanta)
Road Course
High speed/ technical road course (Watkins Glen)
High speed road course ( Road America)
Technical Road Course (Circuit of the Americas, Sonoma)
Non technical Road Course (Charlotte Roval)
Most tracks have different shapes. Some of the Large ovals are D-shaped along with the superspeedways. The flat tracks are usually ovals but 2 are different. 1 is egg shaped (Darlington) and one is a triangle (Pocono).