Windy Pass Thrust Fault with Bob Miller
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ก.ค. 2022
- CWU's Nick Zentner learns from renowned North Cascades field geologist Bob Miller (San Jose State University). This is Bob's 49th year in a row doing field mapping!
Eightmile Trailhead: goo.gl/maps/pGxXNrcQcCVk1wjK7
Lake Caroline (destination): goo.gl/maps/Acgz8R3VLaLuSGaL6
A retired professor still wisely couches his comments, but it was a joy to hear him talking the dates up on top when you were sitting, and his speculation on shearing and folding. You guys just chewed up that mountain, even if you weren’t jogging! Great job!
Hi Nick. Another really great video. Thanks very much. I've been watching your presentations for a long time now and have wanted to meet you in person sometime and thank you in person. Some day.
I am a 1977 CWU geology grad (studied under Bentley, Ringe, Higgins and Farkas), and got hired by the US Forest Service in Cle Elum right away and did geotechnical work for a number of years before jumping to mining admin work there and got to know most of the local mom and pop miners in the Liberty and nearby areas. I moved to NW Montana in 1991 and spent nearly a decade working on large copper/silver mining and permitting projects as a mineral examiner, then moved to Wenatchee to do similar (though considerably smaller scale) mining administration work, and abandoned mine assessments. Attending Central was not only a high point, but it opened me up to a wonderful world that's kept me going for a lifetime. Thanks again, Rich.
Impressed by the hike 3000 feet up with a 71 year old professor like Dr. Miller. Not only does he know his stuff ,after all he wrote the book about the Mt. Stuart range's geology , you got him to answer your questions about it. Plus lots of name
dropping of others who have researched this area! Who knows if you be able to get them to "take a walk" with you next?
I'm out of breath man just watching you gents!
Spectacular video. I felt like I was just hiking along. Looks like a gorgeous day and sure seemed like a great talk. Thanks for sharing.
Mike and Stacia are great but glad you had Bob to yourself. Really got a coherent story out of the conversation! Thanks!!!
Special Thanks to Bob, that guy seems to have so much deep hard won knowledge on tap of this subject, it's a shame more is not collected in a place like YT easily accessible for future generations. He just rattles off so many rich details about an area, its hard to know if you are missing subtleties to his descriptions as you struggle to keep up.
Grateful he is willing to share so much information, Thank You Bob! :)
What a greatly informative hike with the two of you.
Looking at the lovely scenery in a totally new way.
Not a geologist but man what I wouldnt give to be able to hike with you and your colleagues and just absorb the wealth of information that you have
It's all in that brain of his isn't it Nick.
And with your help we get more of it unfolding and bringing it to life ... 👍
Thanks Nick and Bob.
Awesome to join you for this hike and field geology! Great to hear from Bob Miller!
Pretty rocks (and pretty flowers!). Gorgeous day!
Great so see you get 1 on 1 time with the master in his natural habitat. World class geologic field lesson for free, amazing stuff. Keep goin.
A real treat tagging along with you guys.
I feel like there is just the three of us on this geo. hike, me looking over your shoulder. Great fun.
What an outstanding moment you captured, Nick. Right guy, my place, right weather, right geology! I’m a former geologist and I loved every minute of this one, thank you.
This was a thrilling hike... How you two guys managed it, I'll never know. Beautiful beautiful scenery. I appreciate you taking us along on this amazing journey.
A significant athletic performance, making a geology video and talking up a storm, while climbing that steep trail to see pretty rocks.
Makes me ashamed, to be quite honest. I can't walk up from the parking lot to Sherrand Pt. on Larch Mountain without huffin' and puffin'. Not that I'm in any shape, mind you; but I mean they just climbed 3,000 ft. without hardly breaking a sweat; I'd be dead.
Amazing and awesome treat! Thank you both, Bob and Nick for your time and efforts to make this hike and show us those incredible features. I loved the view through the trees with the Ingalls on top of the Chiwaukum Schist and the boundary of the Windy Pass Thrust. To see that in real world after seeing your drawing was very cool. Also the folded rocks were awesome. Can't say I've ever seen anything like that in my area but that's likely because any of that if it exists is below the Columbia River Basalts and the more "recent" volcanic activity of Central Oregon.
Thank you Dr Zentner & Dr Miller for a wonderful & fascinating video. I always learn something new from your videos and just love geology. I can’t hike anymore due to a spinal injury which has left me permanently bedbound, but I love that I can see these fascinating places through your eyes on video. I wish I would have focused my undergrad and graduate degrees in the field of geology instead of the social sciences. Thanks again from a rock hound at heart.
Gads, hiking and talking. I'm so VERY impressed. And out of breath just flat on my back, watching. Wonderful!! Dang Bob! Keep on, keeping on, dear man!!
"Deformation of the Mush...", exactly~! Got it Bob, thanks. The Mt. Stewart batholith was deformed by thrusting of the Windy Pass Thrust Zone when it was mushy magma.
“But I’ve got questions…”. Mt. Stuart was folded?!! BREATHTAKING (🤣)views!! Field geologists rule!! Can’t wait for Myrl’s rebuttal. Thanks Nick.
I can understand the reasons that Dr. Miller presents for not supporting Dr. Beck. That being said, I came into this liking the idea of Baja BC. A meeting of the minds to discuss points and counter points would be good, with the outcome being a focused target for where to do further work to prove the theory. In the end I'm not invested in either position, I just want to raw data from every researcher to be combined into the bigger, no... ...biggest picture possible. Only then will we truly have a better understanding.
Bob was my tectonics instructor at SJSU waay back then as he was just digging into the main "thrust" of his work out there in Washington. Word in class at that time was no, don't do field with Bob, you'll be hiking half of Washington 10 thousand feet in the rain. Well, no one who actually did field camp with Bob had those stores to tell. They had, instead, tales of amazing foliations that only Bob could point out because foliation to Bob was like fabric to couture designers. What he was then, and even now, is humbly passionate about this land and the geostories he found so fascinating. Exciting as his former geo student to hear you both mash on and on about dates, the "mush," and how the bits fit into that BajaBC tale you're itchin' to evangelize, Nick.
what a fantastic geologic journey with spectacular scenery; Thanks so much Nick and Bob/
GORGEOUS! Impressive work gentleman! Nick and Bob thank you for a great Ramble! Those Rocks are stunning and the Scenery too!.
Wow! Thanks Nick and Bob for that really informative geohike! I agree, you learn a lot more outdoors than you can from just books and maps. It sure helps when you two go over the map then point out features. Really helps visual people like me understand what is going on!
Incredible to see the gorgeous scenery and to have Bob describe what we are looking at! Priceless. Thank you Nick!
Thank you Professor Zentner.
There are very few people in this world who shares the knowledge for free just for the love of it. Walter Lewin (MIT Physics) and Nick Zentner (CWU) are couple of them. God bless you Nick and Mr. Miller for this wonderful video. I know you are dehydrated in this hike but you never show it in your enthusiasm.
Did I learn anything that will change my life or indeed my knowledge? Probably not, but I saw some stunning scenery of somewhere I will most likely never get to visit and listened to some friendly discourse about the factors that shaped this part of the world.
Even conflicting theories and ideas were touched upon and welcomed as possibilities still to be proven, not discounted as complete garbage as is the want of much of the modern world.
In summary, “thank you, I love you and goodbye”
GNEISS CLASS PROFESSORS ENJOYED THE HIKE AND WISDOM. BEAUTIFUL AREA OF THE EARTH. THANKS
Thanks for teaching you guys are fine fun and enlightening gentlemen
That was really special. Worth a second viewing to let all of that sink in. Especially regarding the folding. That concept was really folding my brain as I was following along on the map. I’ll need to dig into that some more. I hope I’m in as good of shape as you guys when I get to be your age. Thank you for that opportunity to learn a bit more from the guy that literally wrote the book. More please!
Ok now I feel like I have no excuses. I gotta get up into the mountains
Each clue and question addressed is exciting! Really hope there is some reinforced strong thoughts based on all the information that will be covered and collected on the BBC question! Keep it up, such great content!
Oh Yes! Enjoyed a lot! Another one to rewatch in a kind of preparation for the next Baja BC series! Looks like both of you had an amazing time ! Thanks for sharing such moment! Thanks to Bob too! Thanks Nick! 🥰
What a delight! He says “just over the ridge” and I look ahead at the farther green ridge and wonder if that’s it. Oh my!! He’s right: What pretty folds and green in the rocks. Then you discuss those rocks were once in Baja!!!!! the wonders of the rocks.
Crime pays but botany doesn't and Nick would be an awesome double team. Thanks for packing us in your rucksack for the tour of the mountains. Thanks for the free geology lessons all the way from Australia.
Wonderful... I can really FEEL it!! Thank you sooo much!! Would love it there!! Going to listen, now-- will LOVE that, too, 🤗🥰
Thank you Nick and Bob. Great way to take us to the classroom and explain it in a easy to understand formate. You guys are the best. Glad you guys enjoyed it too. Love yah too
Really enjoyed the outdoor field trip again. Thanks Nick
Lovely episode... Love this convo with Bob. I can totally relate to this, cuz music is a geographical conversation too! I love and know the trail you're walking, yet it's been a few decades. Thanks for this share, Nick! Warms my heart.
Great video Prof Nick... So informative... One of the best wow fun and beautiful area... wow TY so much
Just beautiful and very informative! You knocked it out of the park with this one!
Q: at 40:50 was that a rock slide? They were awfully big boulders. Could it have been caused by a quake, or just erosion loosening the boulders? (Enquiring viewers want to know. 😉 )
I have to give you the credit for me studying geology, siesmology, volcanology and geophysics for so many years, One day I hope I get the chance to come to cwu and soak up all your knowledge, I know more about the pnw than my own home here close to red River gorge ky, I wish I could show you picture of some of our geology.
Wow relooking at things and bring together these older experts to think about it all while including newer research is so important to adjust conclusions. What you are doing Nick and friends is important to the advancement of knowledge and science! Wonderful and thank you all for your work and collaboration and for sharing it all with us. Excellent exciting and fun. I hope some young people see this and want to go into the field.
Thank you Nick. Fascinating discussion (I know I couldn't tell you about my thesis...lol) and natural classroom. Such a beautiful area.
That was great! I could feel the heat, as I just came in out of the 90+humid mess that is outside today. I've seen this now in three "chunks," as I try to take it all in. I plan, also, to watch it start to finish before the winter Baha-BC class starts, too. Congrats to you both on a great learning experience, and doing it as a hike was wonderful. I am equally amazed by the learning, and your hiking ability as you climb the 3,000 elevation change so well.
For Bob, this is a mere “amble” or perhaps even a “stroll” 😂
Not even breathing hard, just a pleasant 3000-foot-climbing stroll.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us professors!!!! We are blessed.
Thank you for another amazing Geology video. I am taking notes on these videos. I really appreciate it :) ❤❤
This video and the latest Walter one are classic blue bird days with beautiful views.
Now we are getting somewhere when we try to date the actual movement of the whole complex of Mt Stuart. This will be truly amazing when it all gets sorted out: 91, 92 to 94 million years. Going to be very interesting and, of course, very informative when everyone ads to the Baja experience!
Very interesting and historical important documentation, Great work Nick
Thanks nick. Your the best buddy, as always, thank you for all this hard work and alot of hiking, I shared on Facebook and told my friends just how great you are, the best geology professor in all the land 😁😁 love you brother hope all is well, love the bijou for me🐈😺
"Nobody likes trees"...I'm dying 😂
Nothing beats seeing and talking about it in situ 👍
Wow So awesome and educational . Great work. Thankyou again.
Early 60s! Wouldn't have picked that, doing well!
I hope the woodpecker enjoyed the hike as much as I did!
THANK YOU, BOB MILLER & NICK ZENTNER! AMAZING GEOLOGY LESSONS!
HIKING ON FANTASTIC MOUNTAIN VIEW TRAILS FOR ALL TO ENJOY.
You both are amazing, I'd have problems hiking that... I need to get back into shape.
Spectacular country!! Again. And on a spectacular day. Even if I knew nothing about geology (and I'm pretty close to that), it'd be a great hike, though probably longer than I'd manage. My pace would be much slower, however…
Yeah, Mount Stuart Batholith is an enchilada folded in Mexico?!!😄✨💛The magnetism signatures may have not locked in until it cooled down maybe up here?! It would make sense to me... SO fun!! Thanks, Nick and Bob!!!😃💞💫
@@macking104 Thank you for the clarification! I'm still learning the paleomagnetism...😊
add in: First time I hiked up here was 1965! We were a ragtag local Boy Scout Troop.
I hope i can do what you guys can at your age, truly marvels of men
Both aged men, but young of body and spirits!
I think the most enjoyable was Bobs "thrust faulting the younger gen " for not being there lol
@41:46 "Poway" near San Diego- Is pronounced Pow-way, says this proud graduate of Poway High School. I'm intrigued because 99% of the rocks down there are crappy, brown decomposing granite boulders- but every so often you'll find a little outcrop of hard, white (peppered with black) granite that looks exactly like what Nick was showing us last week at Steven's Pass. Poway is not far from Baja California... makes you go "hummm"
@@TheDanEdwards Just FYI: Stuart.
Thanks Nick and Prof Miller! Nick I am glad your there you know the right questions to ask. I'd be "and what kind of rock is this?" While you are "Well. doesn't that implicate folding?" Looking at the BIG picture! Speaking of which with all the coeval batholiths entrained along the West coast doesn't it seem like the Nazca/Farallon had many LIPs in different locations that were accreted @91Ma?
My local geoconservator group is looking at an Ordovician horst that has possible thrust faulting from the Caledonian orogeny. It is so complex, we have an Emeritus Professor and various sedimentary petrologists (like me), we can't make sense of the faults/thrusts. We are looking at quartzite/mature sandstone with clay layers that most/some of the faults/thrusts are along. We already did work on the clay layers, they are ariel ash falls onto shallow marine
Fantastic
Wooow!....so jealous 🥺
I've watched allot of Nick's TH-cam adventures. One thing that is a question in all of this is; What about the clockwise rotation that is happening within Washington?
If you take into account and work it into the folds that they talk about here and in other segments. What if? The clockwise rotation that is happening and has been happening over thousands of years, or millions, given the fact that some of this may have been happening during a liquid molten state of the rock.
Then it stands to reason that some folds, may have happened during said clockwise rotations thousands or millions of years ago. Which one then has to question? Did it happen during an up thrust of molten material, or a clockwise transition during a molten state?
They talk of magnetism within the rock before solidification or in the least just prior to solidification. Which in my understanding could have happen well within the clockwise rotation if said rotation was transpiring during the cooling stage or prior too.
So if one takes some or all of these into consideration then are they off on their estimates of when and how?
Granted Nick is a fan of the Stuart Range moving up from Baja California. I don't argue that possibility! Just the liquid state of said rock, the clockwise rotation within Washington, and the folding of said rock within it's supposed liquid state, and the magnetism once it became a solid.
All of which could explain certain aspects of the current state of the rock in it's current geological state once it became a solid.
Thank you from Cincinnati
And Lakewood.... on the lake.
Umm I don’t know what I like more , the geology or the scenery
Nick if you ever get down to the Jamestown, CA- Table Mountain area would love to buy you dinner & hear a few of your stories. I have some amatuer drone footage of the Stanislaus River & Knights Ferry California on my page. Fyi.
Thanks for your knowledge.
in ala. theres a state park ,chewalca built during the depression
Delightful. Thank-you. Wonderful change of scenery from my flat, dusty backwater, with 3D o/c to boot! It is always a treat to go into the field with someone who mapped it.
Contemporaneous thrust-folding in an emplacing granite?. Is the granite concordant to the phyllites? Did melting occur by high-T fluid escape up-thrust?
awesome
According to Bob Miller then the Ba Hah supposition seems less likely? Yes No? What I understand about this area is the complication of the Straight Creek Thrust. THIS IS VERY COMPLEX. In time and space. Orientation. So Stuart had cooled by 91 mybp. A supposed Dome of heat to cool Canada. How long is the Straight Creek Thrust and how vertical is it???
Great presentation and beautiful scenery, but I hafta ask...no bears, no snakes, no pumas? I hope not.
I wish I could follow your discussion on the maps. It would be helpful if that map could some how be combined with a geographical map? Is this possible? If I were your student, I would be seeing you after class for some additional instruction 😁
Hello Nick have you watched any Myron Cook videos he's a good teacher just like you
How do you know it's Windy pass (i.e. wind that blows) and not Windy pass (i.e. like a winding road)?
Where can we download these papers by Mr. Miller? I'm having a hard time finding them.
👍🏼👍🏼❤️❤️❤️
Are these Stewart mountains pass are they still moving up and pushing towards north would like to know
Just FYI: Stuart.
Looks like a mad hornets nest
"That's what science is all about." . . . referencing someone who might correct him to his possible mistakes . Bingo!
Just a question if you don't mind gentleman. If you keep walking the same old paths up the mountain side then how will you possible discover something new?