What Did The Government Leave At The Bottom Of Salton Sea? Learn The Military Secrets of Salton Sea
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- See what the U.S. Government and the military have left hidden at the bottom of Salton Sea and kept secret from the public since before World War II. Continuing after WWII with testing of atomic weapons shapes at the now abandoned Navy test base, up until the late 1980s while the U.S. military continued to test bombs - and continued live fire training at the navy base until the early 1990s. In this video we ask "Why hasn't the United States Military cleaned up the pollution and military hardware that they dumped into Salton Sea for almost 50 years?" - This documentary about Salton Sea also reveals what the U.S. government and military have left at the bottom of Salton Sea, California's largest lake.
Please see the ending-credits for sources of information presented in this Salton Sea documentary.
The views and assumptions expressed in this video are those of the producers and not of the Palm Springs Air Museum or any other organization.
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I had always suspected this to be true. This is one of the best documentary's on the Salton sea. RIP to those who gave there lives in the name of freedom. Godspeed.
Just imagine what they have done in our name. Whats done in the dark will have to come to light.
They didn't just dishonor them they DISOWNED & DISAVOWED THEM. Not the first time govt has done that, look back to the beginnings of the Manhattan Project, and SO many other times as well.
My Dad (RIP) never touched alcohol until after a few years in the Navy... He retired 21years of service a full blown alcoholic. Ask him what happened in the Navy... He said "can't tell ya and you really don't want to know".... This documentary has really helped me understand him better now.
@@redwhitebluefreedomjamesdy8080 21 years def you're dad's has seen alot of atrocities
@@redwhitebluefreedomjamesdy8080 He isn't kidding either. There are somethings best left in the past so the burden of that knowledge dies with him. Others, like my friends grandfathers words won't be shared until their deathbeds... He worked in greenland with usaf during the 60s and told us some unbelievable things, I'm not sure if what he said was truth or a narcotic induced delirium of a madman as he died of cancer. Either way his words, the look of fear, sincerity, and relief in his eyes were one of the most haunting memories of my early teens. 30 years later and its still the most mentally damaging thing I think I've had to deal with, especially when I come across things here on YT that mirror things he said triggering those memories.
So yeah, be grateful hes a man of duty, honor, and his word. Not to many men like that left.
RedWhiteBluefreedom JamesDyke. you're dad has my respect. Thanks for you're dad's service. I wish he didn't have to see the things he did. It's prob why he started drinking. Americans should be forever grateful to our men and women who give their lives to protect ours. War sucks. My wish for the world is for everyone to get along for the sake of earth.
@@trupyrodice4462 You should look into Project/operation Iceworm.
Between nukes, poisons, pesticides and other chemicals we're fuckin up.
We? I'm not responsible for any of this. Keep the blame on the guilty.
How the heck do you "accidentally" drop a bomb? BS! What is the rest of the story?!?!?!?!?!?!
"Accidently" is generally code for hiding lies... Especially when it rolls off of the goverment tongue.
Accidents involving nuclear weapons being dropped unintentionally has happened more times than you’d think.
It's happened a few times actually...
No one is perfect especially the government. Accidents like that do happen.
Rofl it was an accident because if it wasn't you wouldn't hear about it
When the Salton Sea dries up, the radioactive dust from all those munitions will blow off the lake bottom, and follow the prevailing winds into populated areas. That is going to be more than a public relations nightmare. How ironic, that one of the communities on the shores of the Salton Sea is named "Bombay Beach."
The dust bowl winds traveled up to 2000 miles. The wind patterns in that region move upwards to the west coast and agricultural central/Bakersfield area. A potential cataclysmic event indeed. If we forget our history we are doomed to repeat it. Stupid beuracdocy stops immediate restoration projects. Many algae and fish are very tolerant and could potentially benefit the water.
Totally what I was thinking.
Well, when California slides off into the sea, no one will be worried about recovering the planes or ANYONE from California, you've been warned for years. I guess in a thousand years, California will be our Pompeii
The planet we've been given
has amazing filtration. We should be good stewards of the land but understand that we cannot stop entropy. The best we can do is love God and love our neighbors as our self. I hope we can get another natural inflow from the Colorado river.
1962 to 1968 my entire family camped at the Salton Sea one or two weeks every summer. We ate fish we caught in the Salton Sea. We swam in the water for hours everyday without a shower for a week. Looking back at the situation from today I'm amazed any of my family is still alive.
Good evidence on your part, and may be sought after as 'testimony' in the future. Guide your honesty accordingly.
Im amazed about that one too
Maybe needed mote time todiisolve into crap into the water
I lived in salton sea, now i live in coachella, but i have had friends that lived in the area and they found an underground hole with a tank in it, the army came quick and in the 90s a guy found a bomb and was arrested by the FBI, they still have unexploded bombs in that area.
I'd like to hear more about those stories.
These brave patriots died for our freedom just to be dishonored by the military and government this needs to be made right instead of being ignored.
Salton Sea and the entire California desert has been used for military air training even in recent years.
Thank you all of the Fallen Soldier's for your sacrifice. You have given your all for Our Country. Rest easy Sirs...
It's no wonder anyone is willing to go into our military anymore knowing all the messed up things they put our people through only to be treated like they didn't exist in the end. Makes a person wonder how some of those military generals look themselves in the mirror.
Right. They have a history of doing messed up things. like those guys that said they were testing bio weapons on the navy in the 60's.
War is messy, preparing for war is messy.
Naivety of youth, the hijacking of patriotism, and we went to an all volunteer army which means we have to either use propaganda on our people or mercenaries to get soldiers. This is why we weren't supposed to have standing armies.
@@Ashakat42 forget the fact majority of the military is just a job
Yes like that anthrax that Bush sold to Iraq and Afghanistan that's why Buey Biden got cancer he was burning up all that stuff in burn pits but cia Bush administration started doing vax on troops which is now called GULF WAR SYNDROME that's why he blew up OKC fed building tank driver Tim McVeigh was the scape goat building 7 had all his dads info plus they stole all the money gold from 911 no Air plane hit any thing.
I went camping at the Salton Sea with my family in 1977 there were literally thousands of dead fish floating in the lake and it smelled completely rotten!!!
Lack of oxygen, due to too many carp, is what we were told as clean up people working in State Park maintenance, same thing would happen at lake elsinore.
@@janetanderson5569 that's not what happened to the Salton sea. It is well documented the farmers fucked it up bu dumping tons or pesticides and out run off from their farms.
@@RHEC1776 cover story. Hmm
@@HumbelPie cover story? You do know farming runoff happens, Lake Okeechobee had a massive algae bloom couple of years ago killing thousands of wild life from the lake to the ocean
Definitely wasn't the uranium
In US nothing is happening by accident.
Indeed, i doubt our military would make such a mistake, especially in the 40's
Yep, exactly like Russia.
@Juan Carrero Lmao. Your ignorance is impressive.
@@ImARealHumanPerson You don't follow current events do you
mah goodness
The military uses satellite imaging scanning x-rays and every toy they have to penetrate the ground but they can't find a missing bomb
Tools are only as good as the operator !
Tools have no moral compass
Don't forget the other accidentall A - Bomb that was dropped over Georgia! Still haven't found that one. How many more?
Can't be arsed, eclipsed tech, no longer relevant.
Great job! This is far from the amateur ways of TH-cam! My wife thought I was watching a professional production of the history Channel!
Our government is a horrible mess. Unbelievable
As far as not cleaning up after their mistakes, most governments are pretty horrible, Russia being the absolute worst, but the US is probably number 2.
Well this just might explain the oddballs at Slab City! 😉
You're absolutely right the people of Slab City buy their groceries in Nilan d
👍👍
Slab shitty attracts hippies and bums. Why you'd decide to occupy that area is beyond me
What oddballs ? Lol
Lmao.
Spent a couple summers there. Had no idea I was waterskiing over such history. In this latest technology days, we should do the right thing.🇺🇸
Have an arm growing out of your leg yet? Of course not because nukes are a fantasy
Water-skiing? Not sure you'd be able to do that without getting botulism
@@smokeandmirrors6167 it wasnt that polluted back then though. It only all started to go wrong in the late 1960s...
They put so much effort into getting back the bodies of fallen soldiers from all over the world but not there because u bring ur boys back home to American soil and they are on American soil. Never leave a man behind! 🇺🇲
May they all rest in peace! 🇺🇲
Great piece of investigative, and video production work by Notarubicon !
An entire salt mine is one thing at the bottom of Salt on Sea along with the entire fleet of mining equipment,plant equipment and all of the vehicles.
That happened In lousiana as a salt mine went out under the gulf of Mexico and a oil rig put there drill in the wrong place and punctured the mine, luckily all the miners were able to escape before it was completely filled with sea water. And was a complete loss. All mine equipment, vehichles etc will be inside the natural salt bunker it rust away
I've been to the Salton Sea. The smell was unmistakable. Dead Sea is more like it.
Dead sea is taken
Hated the smell as a child didn’t understand why adults didn’t get it!!!
Exactly what I was thinking while there! Tiny bones for sand and no mistaking the smell of death.
We'll find out as soon as it dries up. It's almost there.
Ill be there.
Touching fragments with his hands that make the counter go off😱
If he is not breathing in the dust or licking his fingers.. he is ok
Those fragments are somewhat "safe" but the dust around those fragments....is another story all together.
What do you think that device in your hand is doing?🤯
Problem is that stuff isn't classified anymore 60 years old most of the stuff already been Declassified before that date
And nothing is done
Very Nice work up ! I have watched the sea for a few years, but never heard of it being linked to Manhattan ! There are SO Many places that have wild histories like this !
While in the US Marine Corps, we used the Salton Sea as a training base back in the early 1980’s, conducting live fire exercises with being attacked by F-14’s and F-16’s dropping CS and CN bombs on top of us. It was a horrible place, flies that covered your face and hands plus the horrible smell of dead fish everywhere. Yet, I remember borrowing fishing from some fisherman to create booby traps with C-Rats cans of Spaghetti and heat tabs against the aggressor forces. Those guys were so angry, coming back from the field all covered in black flies from the exploding Spaghetti cans, lol. Oh, I would never want to ever go there ever again, it was simply Hell on Earth...
Those booby traps sound brilliant!
Watching this I thought... why can't each person govern themselves? And if they do harm they automatically get to go to the Salton Sea and work on cleaning it up as punishment. Has to live on site.
Not a big fan of the Bill of Rights, are ya?
Specifically, that citizens are protected from "cruel and unusual punishment."
This is the most information I've ever been able to get from those days!
The Salton Sea is one of the most beautiful places I have visited. So unfortunate no one wants to take responsibility for it and do what is right. Most of it is a CA State Park, or other state and or federal property. A private property owner would be required to clean up their property. Perhaps, this and the work of others before you will bring this to the surface and they will have do something about it. Imagine all of the ag food that comes out of that area. People are eating it, breathing it, used to swim in it, ate fish from it...
Even pets have a burial place. But not our Heroes? Oh dear God, have mercy on us.
Us? Keep the blame on the guilty.
I think I've watched this 3-4 times now. Great content!
One of the best documentaries about the Salton Sea yet. Real research was done.
Awesome vid - very interesting and 'eye-opening'....... Cheers for sharing man......
Waterskied and camped there in the 70’s had no idea
Fast forward 2021 and we’re on the Precipice of World War III
Wow! Excellent work. I had no idea the extent of the military activity. I learned how to jet ski & water ski on The Sea in the early 90’s. That’s scary stuff.
😳🤯😭
It's too bad we cant embrace wisdom like we embrace knowledge!
& you sir are wise!!!
Recently spent a week at the Salton Sea. Such an amazing, yet tragic place. Love its history and its beauty.
IT DOES HAVE A SOMEWHAT MAJESTIC AURA ABOUT DOES"NT IT...? AND THE GOV HAD TO TOXIFY IT SAD...SO SAD!
The 3 eyed Fish from the Simpsons..
"Blinky" is his name. Lol
Boy, 'ol Blinky!
Hahaha! Damn man! I was just bout to say that! 🤦😂😂😂😂😂
I heard the government dropped a Baofeng uv-5r into the Salton Sea. It is still there waiting to be recovered by a lucky soul. I love treasure stories.
Some say that boofeng still radiates spur frequencies killing everything in the water
@@spicesmuggler2452 Others say that if you turn the roger beep on, it'll absorb all of those spurious emissions.
Slab City makes a WHOLE LOT more sense now.....
This is definitely one of the most interesting and informative documentary on the Salton Sea that I’ve watched. As a resident from North Shore CA, it is great to hear more about it’s history! Yet it is really awful and devastating to imagine that all these conspiracies that were one day told by older residents in the community are in deed true and are now being told through this video to promote awareness. Recently, state officials urged residents not to drink, swim , boil or come close to contact with the water after they reported finding an outbreak of toxic algae , after a dog swam in the water and died.
I remember going to the Salton Sea back in the early '60s water skiing at Bombay Beach. Later in the '70s, it all unraveled, and the stench was horrible, dead fish all over the place, and it has been that way since, people had to flee the Sea because the topsoil was so toxic they were told to leave immediately, the wind that carried the dust was toxic and so people left with what they had on their backs and very little possessions. I wonder if the number of birth defects back then resulted from these bombs that were dropped. The gov. doesn't care; they do things like this and are never accountable for their misery on everyone affected.
there have been a rash of cancer withing the young people in the northen imperial valley around brawley lately
2 things I have never under stood. Every now & then the money falls out of an armored car. Every now & the an H bomb falls out of an airplane.
Thanks for putting this up, It’s very interesting. Wish the Government would clean up their messes. #Don’tBeDickheadz
Where would they put it, this is probably one of the best spots to dump war trash
Even if the military were to clean up their mess
The salton sea will remain forever a toxic nightmare due to years and years of fertilization runoff from the farmlands that surround the ....
lake/swamp/sump/quagmire
So terrible, someone should start a class action lawsuit.
Should have added the costs to the 1.9trillion COVID relief bill, they added everything else...
Your right about that! It's unreal the way they act like our tax dollars are "Free money" but then again to them it is.
@@bodaciousdes6654 its because whenever the government needs more money, its just made out of thin air. The same method of making the money they used to fund all the military stuff that caused these environmental disasters.
@@bodaciousdes6654 well, they all but destroyed our lives and lifestyle, not to mention our pastimes.
Soon, there will be no taxpayers, because they are all unemployed.
Anyone that can still pay for the little amenities is soon going to be greeted by a robot.
Those that have little or nothing are going to be left to die in the streets, with politicians pining, "it was their own fault..."
With nobody working, and all the corporate greed, the teeny ( read: lazy basement dweller) Leftists are going to be on the euthanization list, because their usefulness will be at an end...
And the taxes will be levied against.all the mongo corporations, because there will be no more taxpayers working. Mostly because they were euthanized in the first wave....
But, since there won't be anyone to hand money out to, the big corporation burden will be small, but so will their profits...
Yea, they are quite good at eating their own. Nobody survives a Control Freak takeover, not even the Control Freak.
@@danieljones317 Cry into your panties, tough guy.
@@danieljones317 Amen brother
our taxes that didn't go into politicians'' pockets.....
They don't need our taxes lol . They have china's money. Way more than you can offer
Godzilla's parents are living in a cavern at the bottom of the Salton Sea! Hahahahah!
This lake is 52 ft. At the deepest point as it stand right now...! It won't be long that these secret skeletons will start showing up At the current drying rate...!
Very interesting. Never heard about any of this.
No insult intended. i assume you are victim of the American education system.
The residents will be taking the stuff that turns up and make some more wicked, cool yard art.
Learned to waterski there mid 60s didn't know then the govhad already riuned it for everyone thought it was an amazing place thanks for exposing us all to toxic waste
Unbelievable that they allowed it to be turned into a resort, knowing what they did. Despicable that more effort was not taken to recover aircraft and crewman. Great reporting!
Used to go there every year with my parents as a child. This is interesting.
How many by accident? And these where are best and smartest? Sounds fishy to me
The government doesn't care.
by definition your statement does not descrive a benevolent "goverment"
Easy there girl. The government consists of many good people. We are the government. Maybe you may be a little more articulate and explain that you are talking about the very small number of bad leaders who are secretly doing things that the majority would not have supported.
The Government doesn't care. Like how hard is that to understand? If I wanted to get into detail i would. But just like the Government I dont care either. 💯
I find the Salton Sea saga fascinating... can't get enough
This kinda lines up with the rise of cancer. . . imagine all those people in the 50s 60s and 70s who swam there. All being zapped
What! 🤔 did both the History Channel and the Smithsonian miss this? Could it be neither are honest about history and artifacts?
Oookay the government never lies. Opinion of a ole fool, how many brave service members are still there?
More like that's all they do.
They were canon fodder...
Excellent production. I’ve always known that the Salton Sea was poisoned by agricultural runoff but didn’t know about the nuclear connection. Watch the movie, Salton Sea. You may want to avert your eyes during the badger scene.
Was at Salton Sea two years ago. Absolutely horrible that nothing was ever done to ensure the stability of the lake. The entire area was once a thriving holiday hotspot - if only the very same government made the area they should have maintained it. What happened to the old army/navy adage “no one is left behind”......................these men/bodies should be retrieved and finally give their families some closure as well as showing respect for those lost.
I love the Salton Sea, Bombay Beach, Niland, Calipatria, Brawley, etc. I go there every winter. It's too hot and smelly in the summer.
My mom's sister was on the Manhattan project and died of cancer just a couple years later
Cancer . . . think there was any connection ! 💀
And . . . as for the Department of Defense, they're not saying ANYTHING ! 🇺🇸
cancer would affect those staff just the same as the general population.
Many times my father in law tried to get me out there fishing....I’ve always enjoyed Malibu and Santa Monica for fishing never had the chance to go with him to Salton Sea and now I’m glad I didn’t. May he rest in peace and I wonder was his death caused by the fish he consumed from this body of water? Thanks for the info💯🙌🏽
Great Video! Wow! Keep going with your outstanding videos! I did not know this history about Salton Sea Test Base! Thank You!
WTH! I never even knew anything about this. Great coverage
The American Legion, VFW and AMVETS should be made aware of the facts presented in this film.
should he be picking up pieces of uranium with his bare hands ?
Kick the can down the road.
After a couple generations, the Military can claim they didn't know a thing because of inaccurate or destroyed records.
The half-life of depleted uranium is 4.5 Billion...years. An estimated 350 tons of DU ammunition was used in the 1st Gulf war.
Right. And this guy is handling the remnants?!
As each plane is uncovered, the remains will be removed.
The Uranium isnt really that dangerous and the issue with counters is they dont tell you which element it is counting.
Uranium is not really the problem with The Dead Sea, it's only one small element of the toxic mess accumulating their over the decades.
I'm with 3 Dog on this one.
"Tick-tick-tickety means run your ass outta there".
Either clean up the place, or build a pipeline, from the Ocean .
Pipeline is the only option.
I have read that the salton sea is or was only 38’ deep. Could lidar locate lost aircraft and a depression large enough to be the lost atom bomb? Afterthought: my fish finder could probably find stuff.
Just part of the issue. The Salton Sea is below sea level with no water flow exiting it. So all the water from Beaumont going East and from Chiriaco summit going west flows down to the Sea and collects. Only evaporation removes the water. All the pesticides from the ag area also flow into it. Add this issue. If and when it dries up, the wind carrying the toxic dust in the Santa Ana's will blow directly into Palm Springs and most of Southern California. Being that I live here, we have actually smelled the nasty Sulfur smell from the Sea on occasion. The Sea is a man made disaster and in the future it will come back to haunt us and turn into one of the worst disasters ever recorded.
My grandfather used to take me camping there at Obsidian Buttes like 5 different trips. I learned how to shoot there. This place sits on an active volcano with boiling mud pits. There are Thermo power plants in the southeast side, and worst of all, sits right next to the San Andreas fault. Nuclear, Faultline, Volcanic activity? Not a great combination.
Another great video from a awesome channel. RIP to the sailors, marines. Soldiers and airman still there. Your watch is being carried on.
In the late 80's and early 90', I would go out there with dad for camping, we would swim, boating, and fishing there. I knew there was an old military base, bit had no idea it was a test site.
80? 90? Dang this been over with since early 70s
None of this surprises me in the slightest, they will leave the remains of those pilots at the bottom that lake forever.
In the early 70s i went fishing at Salton sea and the fishing was amazing.I was even catching fish on empty hooks hanging on the line while unhooking fish.I was just a kid at the time it was fun.
That just shows you how messed up that water is. ..the fish were even trying to get out of it and way they could,, ...lol I'm joking
Yeah at one time, it was a flourishing sport fishing, waster skiing and boating spot. By the late 70's though it had rapidly declined. . .in a strange way.
There used to be LOTS and losts of fresh mountain water flow there and south of there, it had so much sea life, and water plain floods even with all the military disgusting waste, and before way before natives would allways fish and hunt agriculture there and south to the gulf. Most of the entire valley sits under sea level
They didn’t recover this aircraft because they don’t give a rats ass about the environmental impact. They leave a mess wherever they go
Let #AOC know about it immediately
Yet if you ride a motorcycle in a stream, or in a lake, in the shallows, they'll fine you for environmental taxations.!
Great video. R.I.P to the fallen
So, if the cleanup is "complete," then anyone with the equipment can and may go and pick up anything they find.
I drive thru there every time I go to Mexico and I never thought it was involved in military, I thought it was all farming that cause the contamination of the sea lake..
Most of the contamination IS from fertilizer runoff. Look at the New River, coming across the border from Mexico, looks like chocolate milk with a thick lay of foam on top. Not just farm runoff, but hazardous chemicals that are dumped into the river on the Mexico side, with very little regulation. Personally, I think we should build a dam at the border, and turn that part of northern Mexico into a toxic floodplain.
@@lesterhartness4077 Better hurry up building that dam, u might have a radioactive wasteland if the newkie goes... And the chems, they are dumped by US compranies that went south...so i guess everything is following its natural course.
Most of the contamination in the New River is from a broken sewage treatment plant in Mexicali. IOW, the river is literally shit.
Is government logic. If the masses are not aware of it there's no need to spend money on it. Our history is replete with examples of this.
When I was living in Palm Springs California my girlfriend at the time and I were going to slab city. If you know what that is it's pretty interesting look it up but in order to get there you have to go through the Salton sea first. So we did a little sightseeing and OMG that place is creepy as hell. The beach is made up of fish bones. You would never think those were bones. And every now and then you could smell dead fish all the way about 30 40 miles away in Palm Springs
One of my positive memories from the 70's was stopping at the east side of the Salton Sea with my young family. We stopped, we swam in a wonderfully beautiful lake and then dropped in a line and caught on tilapia after the other which we ate for the 3 days we stayed there. Many years later I flew over it on the way to San Diego and was sickened to see the Colorful rivers of algea flowing in from the farm drainage. Later still I drove by the overwhelming rotten egg smelling lake and was so sad to see what has happened to it. I know none of my comments relate to this post however I just wish more people knew about the wonderful resource that has been ruined by being ignored for years and used for a waste dump for agricultural run off and waste flowing in from Mexico from the new river. This lake has no outlet so it just get worse and worse.
From the time that the lake filled, this was the eventual outcome. All of the minerals in all of the water that enters the lake concentrate there by solar evaporation. Water is a scarce and valuable commodity in the Southwest, something that is lost on many commenters. When the lake was formed, there was not nearly the demand for Colorado river water than there is today, and upstream states are working hard to claw back water rights, but the Imperial Valley is the vegetable basket for the country. So what is your solution? "They" need to put more water in the lake so people can speedboat there again? Give a little thought to the problem.
I was thinking that given what was described in this video, that I wouldn’t want to eat anything that came out of these waters.
I wonder how the military kept the families of the airmen from raising a fuss. Did they threaten them or pay them? The government and military only has one interest and it isn't people; anyone harmed is considered collateral damage. Pardon my cynicism in my old age.
Enjoyed the video. Thanks for the history lesson.
Just moved from the area. Dust devils are toxic snd rampant. There are housing tracts built right next to the Salton Sea as well. Oh my, thanks for your report.
You don't get attacked when you have the biggest bomb.
I was at the Salton Sea in 2015 and camped one night. It smelled sooo bad from all the dead fish and flies, I had to leave. That place and that water are disgustingly gross!
What year 442 do you have?
@@erikkroll2154 it's a W30
Very interesting. Thank you
I grew up in the the San Diego area and never heard this story. I knew the navy had a base there but not the bombing that occurred there.
Sounds like they should've named that facility Sunny Beach.
Think about it.
Has our government always sucked? Yes, definitely!
The government isn't what's bad. It's the people in it.
@@marksmart4347 yes... is often the case.
@@marksmart4347 "The public sucks, yeah that's right, the public sucks."
-GC
They still do testing and maneuvers on the mountains. They dropped bombs just outside of Niland in the 90’s. Almost hit a truck with a couple driving into town. Nothing the Governor does surprises me.