My beloved K-4 I recently visited Altoona and Tyrone. I wanted to retrace the awesome beauty of Pennsylvania railroad’s history. Beautiful state of Pennsylvania so rich in historical timelines. I guess I was born 100 years to late.
Indeed. Hopefully that glorious day will come during my lifetime; I'm still relatively young, but restoring a locomotive to working and running conditions can take years and years and years. I recently purchased an HO scale model of #1361 with a little engineer figure in the cab, and many times when I run that engine, I wish I could be that little engineer.
Honestly I just hope that 1361 receives its streamlining like 3768, and I hope the broadway limited becomes a thing again, I just want it to see it at 90 mph.
@@sirpatrick5564 Indeed, that would be neat to see, though from what I've read, streamlining makes for more difficult locomotive maintenance. I also live relatively close to the PRR's former Main Line, and I believe it's entirely electrified all the way to Harrisburg.
@@sirpatrick5564 I'd say they both look good in their own right, though I do remember reading rail companies tried streamlining to make their locomotives appear more modern/aerodynamic and win back some of their declining passenger revenue.
No. 1361 is a beautiful locomotive and I hope they get it running when I'm still on this Earth. I was told that the Pennsylvania Railroad K4 steamers were the best Pacific wheel arrangements out there. These were railroading marvels and so was the GG1. A GG1 won't ever run again though, but one can actually run if someone is willing to spend the extra money in able to. The best GG1 to be a restoration candidate is the 4935 on display inside the museum at Strasburg. If someone would get a GG1 to run again, it will be interesting to see a K4 steamer running with a GG1 electric. That will be the ultimate reunion of two legendary Pennsylvania railroad locomotives.
@@danielannett1019 Indeed. I'm always excited to hear about a steam locomotive being restored to operating condition, and my passion for them (and railroads) extends to those all across the globe. I must also add that it seems Great Britain (at least to me) does a fine job with regards to steam locomotive preservation.
As of October of last year the boiler is at East Broad Top I saw it there it's in the left side of their machine shop sitting on a home-built flat car. when I last talked to somebody at the museum last year and i was told that parts of the k4 were on the premises in storage, parts were in Scranton and like mentioned before the boiler was at EBT. basically this thing is scattered across the state! I was told that the goal was to finish the roundhouse and have it put inside where they were going
It's a true shame that engine 1361 only operated in excursion service for one year before experiencing major maintenance issues, this locomotive needs to be restored/ rebuilt and placed back into service. The 1361 deserves a new chance at an operational life again and hopefully at some point in the future this engine will return to excursion service operations.
According to the Altoona Railroaders Memorial Museum, PRR 1361 will be reassembled in their new roundhouse after its completion. I don't now if it will steam again but most of her parts are at the museum already, ex. drivers, cab, etc. The boiler on the other hand is a big question mark. Work is getting done on it slowly but surely and the museum's president said that the restoration of PRR 1361 will be completed sometime this year or next.
It is so sharp! Thanks for confirming - the occasional car horn or voice made me pretty sure is was real time but wasn't 100% sure. And again - thanks so much for posting this!
Love that sound!!! Is that the real sound from the actual train or dubbed in? The mechanical sound and steam and whistles are amazingly clear!!! Great job!
+Aljaz Skarlovnik Soon...progress is pretty slow right now, but if enough people would get behind it financially, it wouldn't take all that long. She's far more rebuilt than the interwebs knows...it's almost all small stuff--appliances, mainly--with a few major items (roof sheet replacement, tube and firebox installation). It's the small stuff that consumes the most time, but giving it the attention this time that it might not have gotten previously will pay off long-term. The power reverse gear is currently reduced to component parts for inspection, repair, and testing. facebook.com/fansofprr1361/ is pretty much the only source of current, reliable information.
@nkproad777 Strasburg I think already has a couple they are fixing aren't they. That's what half of steamtown problem was with not fixing stuff up. That and no money.
Doyle McCormack was contracted to help overhaul 1361 during the first rebuild in 1987. He had the tool car “Yes Dear” sent down to accompany the engine on its first runs until the Railroaders Memorial Museum got their own tool car.
It's been floating around for a few weeks now, but the whole separation thing is now largely corrected: The boiler is finally back in Altoona and a group of JBS guys are volunteering to do what needs done now--reassembly with a goal of 205 on the clock. The major work is still concentrated on that pesky firebox--the side sheets and rear bulkhead still need installed, and the wrapper roof sheet will end up being replaced regardless due to wasteage. Pending the money required to get the proper engineering assessment and the fabrication (as the original PRR stamping dies are long lost), they're focusing on repairing, servicing, and replacing (as needed) appliances and smaller components. The tender also needs the trucks pulled for side bearing adjustments, as whoever put it back together didn't bother to think about that..derails constantly. Never run again? I'm starting to think that isn't going to be the case. These three guys will talk more than the BOD will, but there's some big stuff they've hinted at but can't reveal just yet. Stay tuned.
How bout the Strasburg fixes her, then steamtown can run her on their line cause they have a bit better terrain for a K4. I mean not 18mph and maybe 30.
Just like most of the things Larry Salone has been involved in, it just doesn't work out. Kind of like a tradition with him. As I sit right now, part of the K4 is 50 some miles away, while the other part is sitting in a shop on a narrow gauge flatcar maybe 300 feet away behind locked doors in which no one with the Railroaders memorial museum has a key for. This locomotive will never run again.
It's not the boiler that's the problem ,, it's the axle bearings and lube pumps , being that they are 1914 built , the oil lubrication pumps are to old and nobody builds that kind of unit anymore , and that cause the bearings to over heat warping the frame ,, and after time , that puts more wear on the same bearing , a snowball effect happens , and it doesn't take long for """ back to the shop """ she goes -----
1361 is being restored to operation at the Railroaders Memorial Museum. Once the restoration is complete, it will tour Pennsylvania and beyond and run excursion trains over short lines and regional railroads in the region.
It won't be steaming again, Today the K4 was on the news and the president said that the K4 will be restored but, will not be operable because it would not meet the F.R.A regulations.
The K4s were beautiful. Especially 1361. I hope to see this engine under steam once again soon
And towards the final years of their use were assigned in NJ on the NY&LB
My beloved K-4 I recently visited Altoona and Tyrone. I wanted to retrace the awesome beauty of Pennsylvania railroad’s history.
Beautiful state of Pennsylvania so rich in historical timelines. I guess I was born 100 years to late.
Indeed. Hopefully that glorious day will come during my lifetime; I'm still relatively young, but restoring a locomotive to working and running conditions can take years and years and years. I recently purchased an HO scale model of #1361 with a little engineer figure in the cab, and many times when I run that engine, I wish I could be that little engineer.
If 4014 can run again, anything is possible.
Honestly I just hope that 1361 receives its streamlining like 3768, and I hope the broadway limited becomes a thing again, I just want it to see it at 90 mph.
@@sirpatrick5564 Indeed, that would be neat to see, though from what I've read, streamlining makes for more difficult locomotive maintenance. I also live relatively close to the PRR's former Main Line, and I believe it's entirely electrified all the way to Harrisburg.
@@Stussmeister Idk which one looks better, the streamlining without it's shrouding, or with it.
@@sirpatrick5564 I'd say they both look good in their own right, though I do remember reading rail companies tried streamlining to make their locomotives appear more modern/aerodynamic and win back some of their declining passenger revenue.
No. 1361 is a beautiful locomotive and I hope they get it running when I'm still on this Earth. I was told that the Pennsylvania Railroad K4 steamers were the best Pacific wheel arrangements out there. These were railroading marvels and so was the GG1. A GG1 won't ever run again though, but one can actually run if someone is willing to spend the extra money in able to. The best GG1 to be a restoration candidate is the 4935 on display inside the museum at Strasburg. If someone would get a GG1 to run again, it will be interesting to see a K4 steamer running with a GG1 electric. That will be the ultimate reunion of two legendary Pennsylvania railroad locomotives.
A wonderful movie, Thanks from Germany
The day this locomotive is back on the tracks under its own power will be one of the best days known to mankind.
One fine piece of machinery!
Magnificent machine. I just hope that she runs again someday.
Favorite steam loco next to 1218! They must bring this beautiful girl back to life again!
That would be wonderful to get her running again, as she is one of Pennsylvania's official "State Locomotives," after all.
They Are restoring her
So true
love too see it running again as a brit i have a love for all steam loco's and this is possibly my favourite class of US licomotives
@@danielannett1019 Indeed. I'm always excited to hear about a steam locomotive being restored to operating condition, and my passion for them (and railroads) extends to those all across the globe. I must also add that it seems Great Britain (at least to me) does a fine job with regards to steam locomotive preservation.
@@Stussmeister we do are best afterall with out steam locomotives or Railways we probably woul'nt have the world we have today
I love the K4’s
A real beast of a heavy pacific. Hard to believe it's basically a 1914 design.
Went past a relative's old house in Julian, PA. I remember that stretch of track well.
Really nice clear video especially the close ups of the drivers and side rods.
As of October of last year the boiler is at East Broad Top I saw it there it's in the left side of their machine shop sitting on a home-built flat car. when I last talked to somebody at the museum last year and i was told that parts of the k4 were on the premises in storage, parts were in Scranton and like mentioned before the boiler was at EBT. basically this thing is scattered across the state! I was told that the goal was to finish the roundhouse and have it put inside where they were going
It's a true shame that engine 1361 only operated in excursion service for one year before experiencing major maintenance issues, this locomotive needs to be restored/ rebuilt and placed back into service. The 1361 deserves a new chance at an operational life again and hopefully at some point in the future this engine will return to excursion service operations.
According to the Altoona Railroaders Memorial Museum, PRR 1361 will be reassembled in their new roundhouse after its completion. I don't now if it will steam again but most of her parts are at the museum already, ex. drivers, cab, etc. The boiler on the other hand is a big question mark. Work is getting done on it slowly but surely and the museum's president said that the restoration of PRR 1361 will be completed sometime this year or next.
Sounds like a B & O whistle .
It is so sharp! Thanks for confirming - the occasional car horn or voice made me pretty sure is was real time but wasn't 100% sure. And again - thanks so much for posting this!
i have this in HO such beautiful locomotive!
@m3636y They need the roundhouse to store it somewhere so that they can restore on site there to met FRA requirements.
Hopefully this new guy Salone knows what he's doin. 1361 must steam again. VIVA LA 1361!
original sound recorded in real-time by Mark I Video
Any updates on her rebuild?
Jack "HOT WATER " Wheelihan at the throttle... GO JACK !!!
Is the platform on smokebox BENT upwards? Never seen that one before...🤔
Fantastic video! :)
Love that sound!!! Is that the real sound from the actual train or dubbed in? The mechanical sound and steam and whistles are amazingly clear!!! Great job!
epic, thanks for uploading
#fireup1361
+Aljaz Skarlovnik Soon...progress is pretty slow right now, but if enough people would get behind it financially, it wouldn't take all that long. She's far more rebuilt than the interwebs knows...it's almost all small stuff--appliances, mainly--with a few major items (roof sheet replacement, tube and firebox installation). It's the small stuff that consumes the most time, but giving it the attention this time that it might not have gotten previously will pay off long-term. The power reverse gear is currently reduced to component parts for inspection, repair, and testing.
facebook.com/fansofprr1361/ is pretty much the only source of current, reliable information.
Hey Dan, can you post a cab ride video of 1361 if there is one?
@nkproad777 Strasburg I think already has a couple they are fixing aren't they. That's what half of steamtown problem was with not fixing stuff up. That and no money.
Why there’s a daylight baggage car
Doyle McCormack was contracted to help overhaul 1361 during the first rebuild in 1987. He had the tool car “Yes Dear” sent down to accompany the engine on its first runs until the Railroaders Memorial Museum got their own tool car.
@@trainmaster844 well thanks for that information and I like your old videos gives me nastolgia when I was 4 or 3
It's been floating around for a few weeks now, but the whole separation thing is now largely corrected: The boiler is finally back in Altoona and a group of JBS guys are volunteering to do what needs done now--reassembly with a goal of 205 on the clock. The major work is still concentrated on that pesky firebox--the side sheets and rear bulkhead still need installed, and the wrapper roof sheet will end up being replaced regardless due to wasteage. Pending the money required to get the proper engineering assessment and the fabrication (as the original PRR stamping dies are long lost), they're focusing on repairing, servicing, and replacing (as needed) appliances and smaller components. The tender also needs the trucks pulled for side bearing adjustments, as whoever put it back together didn't bother to think about that..derails constantly.
Never run again? I'm starting to think that isn't going to be the case. These three guys will talk more than the BOD will, but there's some big stuff they've hinted at but can't reveal just yet. Stay tuned.
How bout the Strasburg fixes her, then steamtown can run her on their line cause they have a bit better terrain for a K4. I mean not 18mph and maybe 30.
Just like most of the things Larry Salone has been involved in, it just doesn't work out. Kind of like a tradition with him. As I sit right now, part of the K4 is 50 some miles away, while the other part is sitting in a shop on a narrow gauge flatcar maybe 300 feet away behind locked doors in which no one with the Railroaders memorial museum has a key for. This locomotive will never run again.
they got part of the round house to put it in the need the k4 they also need to fix there cars
@Bassfanatic94 Altoona's newspaper the altoona mirror
It's not the boiler that's the problem ,, it's the axle bearings and lube pumps , being that they are 1914 built , the oil lubrication pumps are to old and nobody builds that kind of unit anymore , and that cause the bearings to over heat warping the frame ,, and after time , that puts more wear on the same bearing , a snowball effect happens , and it doesn't take long for """ back to the shop """ she goes -----
Hopefully not the last steam restoration
Is she running on Everett trackage here? Or is this going back up the secondary?
1361 is being restored to operation at the Railroaders Memorial Museum. Once the restoration is complete, it will tour Pennsylvania and beyond and run excursion trains over short lines and regional railroads in the region.
stop spending money on the round house and use the money on the k4 take it to strasburg they fixed one so they should be able to fix this one
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@PRRk4s1361fan goverment regs overruling common sense
It won't be steaming again, Today the K4 was on the news and the president said that the K4 will be restored but, will not be operable because it would not meet the F.R.A regulations.