There was legitimately a study once that found sustain was affected by the headstock 😂 Don’t think that the nibbled away edges of the epiphone will make that much of a difference tho.
The epiphone is around 1500$ new here in Canada. It’s the same price as some lower end gibsons I literally traded in two brand new Gibson les Paul tributes for two of these 1959’s (one dark, one cherry) and I don’t regret it one bit The Epi 1959s are light years better than any Gibson lp I’ve ever played
@@lukebroste1182 Have you compared them to the normal Standard 50s Les Paul? I don't really want to spend extra for the 59 and I plan on changing pups anyway, burstbuckers or not... but I would be curious from the guitar itself how you feel about the 50s model vs. your about 50% more expensive 59. Eventually I want both of course but I am not rich. And my Gibson money is reserved for Flying Vs. Everyone makes good Les Pauls. Only Gibson (and Epiphone) make proper Flying Vs. Classic ones, not Rhoads or Laiho style that's a totally different thing....
After nearly 30 years of playing and owning a wide spectrum of guitars, I've come to the conclusion that the tone difference between a decent affordable guitar and an astronomically expensive guitar of similar build is negligible to the listener. The reason players often seek out more expensive guitars is because of how it looks, feels, and makes them feel when they play it. Unfortunately for my wallet, those qualities are worth the extra money to me. Other players couldn't care less.
Spot on. I'm paying the extra money for the real deal. I know a lot of people don't agree with me, but I've owned and played numerous Gibsons and Epiphones, and the Epis can't touch the Gibsons in my opinion. Especially in feel. Well in tone also. Lol
Yep, and that's tone difference in an acoustically favourable environment. When playing in outside or in a noisy bar with a band It's hard to tell the difference - especially with other factors like pedals and amps. I agree it's the feel that's important.
After 20 years of playing, I’m convinced you’re just paying for looking cool and legit to other people who fall for marketing and branding too… like myself lol. Let’s just be honest here, we want to play what the people we grew up listening to played and Gibson and Fender paid out a lot of money to make sure those idolized players played their guitars. It gives us a sense of “authenticity” or being the real deal. “Oh I’m a real player now cuz I play the real thing now.” We’re being sold a brand. Nothing more. Just like coke pepsi McDonald’s and the rest. Cheers.
OK , I’m the one guy left at the end of the video . I just recently got the Epiphone 1959 Les Paul that was closest to Lee , the orangey looking one . Mine is gorgeous and crazy flamey with great movement as well . I couldn’t be happier with it and it was on a closeout sale for $799 in the States ! Also more cherry 🍒 in person than orange 🍊 . I’m loving it ! Take care everyone and Rock On !
I've never played a £5000 Gibson. But I bought one of these Epiphone 1959's and its the best guitar I've ever owned. It plays like a dream and sounds absolutely spectacular.
I have an Epiphone "Black Beauty - 3 pickup model", sounds and plays fabulously. Needed a little bit of setting up straight out of the shop (couple of frets were a tad high). Dad has a Gibson custom shop 1960 model with a Mahogany top (has a really sweet sound). You *can* hear the difference, but there really isn't much in it. I put it down to his many years of playing :P
I got one to never owned a epiphone before but saw all the reviews would love to have a Gibson 1959 reissue but doubt that will happen back to my epi 59 I absolutely love this guitar it sounds plays and looks freaking awesome I'm happy
My wife and son bought me the Epiphone "59 in the Dark Burst. It took a while to arrive (missed Xmas) but man was it worth the wait!! What a fantastic guitar!! Its the only guitar I've played since it arrived in February!!!
@@cromBumny the main reason is that you pay a lot for the name Gibson, and manufacturing cost are higher in the USA. This has little to do with craftsmanship. So this Epiphone is a very good deal
@@Paul-D That's really easy to say unless you own the shop and want to pay a good tech to do a good job. Small shops are already struggling. I'd rather pay a good tech and get it done right than some guy who's making minimum and just banging out setups.
I’m only 1:30 in, and I just want to say that Captain’s playing is fabulous! You really have grown leaps and bounds since I first started watching your videos and following your Facebook page a few years ago, maybe several years ago. Really, really beautiful, soulful playing. Wow. Cheers!
Captain your playing with the budget friendly pedal board it looks like. Pete looks like the expensive board…. Great playing guys. Always love to watch!
Phenomenal opening jam, Boys! I am beyond AMAZED at how those Epiphones sounded. The fact that the EPI could stay in the ring with that custom shop, and more than hold its own head-to-head with the Gibson, is mind-blowing. The sound of the Epiphone is HUGE!
As always, get the guitar that you yourself would appreciate the most. Doesn’t matter if it’s an epiphone or gibson, it’s all about enjoying the music you make. 🙂✌️
It basically comes down to what you can afford, if you can afford a Gibson Custom shop, go fo it. If you can’t, no big deal as affordable guitars are very playable these days with the differences often being marginal, particularly with a few upgrades and a decent setup!
I just watched this one back to back versus the 2020 Gibson Les Paul Tributes. While not on the same video, I think the Tributes still sound better for about the same price. Gibson just has a magic to it, even stripped down.
I’ve it matter much. I’ve gotten a Epi Trad. Pro IV. My grandfather has a 59. He tells me if his wasn’t played in as much as the way it is, he would have no problem having a new epi Les Paul like mine and keeping it the same way he he did his Gibson 59.
Man I've got a Gibson Traditional as my cheapest Gibson and I don't care what someone says, the Epi just don't compare. I've compared the two. You would have to change everything out on the Epi including pickups to get it even close. And a good sounding pickup will be $350 and then another couple hundred for hardware. This of course is my personal opinion. I've did all the customizations and it just doesn't add up to a stock cheaper Gibson. People just try to say an Epi or other economical guitar is just as good to make themselves feel better LOL
I played a Gibson inspired Epiphone while I was with my son out window shopping and I was extremely impressed with the new line. The Gibson pickups and better electronics make all the difference. The biggest issue I had with Epiphones of my youth is the muddy tone from the cheap pickups. I always swapped everything out with used Gibson parts. In the states, the upgrade is about a $300 dollar difference between Epi models. You can barely upgrade an Epiphone with “new” Gibson parts for $300. Add another $100 for a hard case that you don’t get with the less expensive line. Congrats Epiphone, you got my attention.
@@jackphillips939 how good you are at guutar doesn't depend on speed or variety of scales you can quickly swap between. It's determined by how good you can sound with everything you know. He has improved greatly and it's people like you that discourage others from playing guitar. No one cares if you want to criticize someone just to be rude. Sit down
I just bought the same 59 Epiphone and its a great value for money. I was going for a Epiphone Modern....but decided on the spot to go for the 59. I can't stop playing that thing, i love it...
I got mine approximately a month ago...It is spectacular. Literally flawless fit and finish. Plays like it was Plekt and sounds amazing. I can't believe how good it is!
I have the Epi 59' and I love it! Sounds great in a mix and I've compared it with $2500-$4k Gibson's pretty much side by side. I couldn't agree more with you two, the Epi is great, but... there's that little something you just don't get, nor should you for the price difference. My bandmate and I dialed our amps in to sound almost identical and he was pretty awestruck that he paid $4k for his Custom and I paid $700 for mine. Of course, his will just increase in value and mine will decrease, but probably not 4-5 times as much.
I have one of the 59 Epiphones in Lemon Burst and it's a dream. It's my first Les Paul, and I'd have no concerns if it was the only one I ever have - though I wouldn't mind getting an Epiphone 50s/60s Standard one day just to have a nice proper gloss burst finish. 😅
Another awesome video! Suggestion: would love to see after each jam a brief tidbit (even if just 10-20 sec) on a solo technique….ie “this is a cool lick I used here, major pentatonic, box 4, over this chord” etc. - from both Lee and Pete. Love watching you guys play!!!
I did the blind test too while reading the comments. in the clean section i wasn't too sure but as soon as pete played at 17:42, I said yup that's the Gibson. Great video
You know what would be a really, really, really cool video? Take a Gibson and an Epi LP to one of your techs, document how he sets up both guitars to take the max out of em and then do a comparison. OR let him just set up the Epi and see how they compete. 🤘
Agreed. That expensive gib$on has had extensive attention to detail where the neck & frets are concerned & the Epi has not. Major factor in terms of feel & playability.
Even a simple setup and new strings would make a good difference on the Epiphone. I set mine up and raised my pickups just a bit, it barks way harder. My neighbor I play with has an 80s Gibson, we played together a lot of times before I set up my Epi, when he heard it after setup he grimaced and turned his gain up.
Hello guys, I just want to say, thanks for a great video presenting the "Battle of the '59 Les Paul's - Epiphone 1959 Standard vs. Gibson Custom Shop". 🎸I just purchased one for my birthday (Aug 5th) and could not be happier about it.🎸 You've both been a great source of knowledge and entertainment all through the Covid-19 days. I'm most grateful for your hard work and awesome consistency producing very informative videos. Audio, Video and Lighting are very well done. As a Audio, Video and Lighting person myself you guys do a A+ job. Thank you and best to you all, Jim - Jonesboro, Arkansas, USA 🎸🚜🌽 🐄🤠 🎸
I think the differences are so small [Still observable ] that you could possibly put it down to the capacitors used in each, Paper-in-Oil Capacitors on the Gibson and Mallory polyester in the Epi. It would be interesting test if you changed the caps on the Epi to the same type used on the Gibson to see if the differences were still there, and if the Epi opened up more to sound more like the Gibson. If that did open up the Epi more, maybe Andertons could consider doing the cap change to the Epi Les Pauls making then different to those sold elsewhere.
Clean, the differences are very apparent, especially on the bridge pup. The Gibson just sounds more full range. But distorted, things get very hard to distinguish. I’d be happy with either!
I would love to see a gig based test with guitars at different price points. As things start to re-open!? How much difference is there in a band and what are the pros and cons you are looking for. 🙏🙏
Purchase what you can afford. I myself have a Gibson LP Faded Cherry. Nice guitar, $800 used on Reverb. I bet that Epiphone stands up to my Gibson, it may be better. I'd probably consider one of these Epis down the road
I believe that with the same pickup in both guitar it would be almost impossible to differentiate their sound. Nice video, looking forward to my Anderton's shop visit.
The only Les Paul I own is a 1997 Orville and I play my PRS guitars mainly. Those Epiphones are sweet guitars. That said, that R9 was just stellar. Since I was watching the video and knew what guitar was being played, I called my wife in to take the blind test. She liked the R9. It really was something.
My wife bought me a Gibson Les Paul tribute for my birthday. I already had a Douglas Shadow pro from Rondo music . The Douglas is made in China. The Douglas is a better guitar in almost every way.
Epiphone has really stepped up its game lately. I've owned a Gibson Les Paul, a Gibson 335 Studio, and a Gibson 335 satin cherry finish. All great guitars. They all had that extra little bit of something that was hard to describe. But for me, I'll take a well made import and do some mods & upgrades because it's fun and gives me a better connection to the instrument. Epiphone is really turning out some great guitars.
I bought an aged burst Epiphone 59 limited edition from you guys a couple of months ago and I adore it. It does weigh the same as a baby elephant though. But an absolutely stunning guitar.
Baby elephant, ha I like that. I got a Epiphone Les Paul 59 and I'll bet she weighs 10 lbs. But I love the guitar. Had sharp fret ends, and them shitty tuners. Other than that great guitar. peace.
I've only the a chance to play a CS '59 once, it belonged to the manager at a local music shop that he let me play. To this day I still haven't experienced the amount of volume it put out. Same amp I always use under the same settings, but so much more out of it. I have to have that in my life at some point.
Decided to start playing again after 20 years away. Lusted for a Gibson LP Standard. Watched this video and confidently sprung for a much cheaper Epiphone to start with. So glad I did. It’s such a great guitar. I’m in love. This was great to watch and listen to. I WISH I could play like these guys! Maybe someday…
I think Lee’s description of the comparison is spot on. The Epiphone sounded quite a lot more compressed to my ears. No criticism of the Epiphone intended here because given the respective prices and how they’re built it should be this way, but I thought the difference was really pretty noticeable.
I agree I think the wood density would have a lot to do with in all my years of playing and trying guitars I've always found the lighter ones to resonate better and Lee said how much lighter the Gibson was
I watched the video where you guys showcased the 59 Epi at NAMM about 100 times before becoming a proud owner of a Dark Burst. It’s a seriously amazing guitar!
Thanks guys! I hear exactly what he heard in the comparison. I didn't think I would be able to tell the difference. I am really shocked at the little difference there was but it was there. I cant at this time in my life spend more on a guitar than I do on a car. So for the money I am going with the Epi 59. I would really like to heat the Epi modern LP against the Epi 59 and the Gibson's. If you are going to do a shoot out lets get all the guns in the room and see who is left standing! You are able to do that since you are a guitar store that has the inventory of a small country. So the pieces are in place. But what a great video. You guys do a great job of making me want to buy a guitar and have it shipped across the pond. That way it's an Anderton's Gibson or Epi on to boot. Nice work and keep them coming.
I’ve always thought that if you can comfortably afford the much more expensive instrument get it. If you can’t get the epiphone. Either way your gaining something. You haven’t lost something in getting a new guitar.
Take these two guitars, put the same pickups, e.g., Duncan Antiquities, in each, have both set up the way you like it, and *then* compare them. Yes, the guitars will feel different to play - they have different necks. How different will they sound with the same pickups in both?
The feel of the guitar has a big impact on how you play and therefore the sound you'll get. At least that's my case. I have a '82 LP standard and enjoy playing it like a little kid, but when I take a modified epi, which I bought before I was able to afford the 82, even though the sound used to be similar, the feel makes me come back to earth.
My favorite thing ever said (and I forget who said it) was that john 5s lava lamp guitar was made with tone lava! Lmaoo. If you throw the same pickups in 2 different (decent) guitars I don't think anyone could tell the difference. But how a guitar feels to play is what says it all to the guitarist
@@marcsoriano7161 If one is a high action difficult to play...yeah. But, to be honest even cheaper guitars are getting great playability nowadays. Everything else is easy to adjust on the electric world. You'd be surprises how many valueable frequencies are filtered from the second gain stage on most tube amps. (above 3-4 khz and below 120 up to 350 hz on some amps). As guitar electric distortion is multiplied basic notes then you get treble, that are multiple integers of lower, mid frequencies. So if you have a note at 400 hz, just a 5th harmonic would be 2000hz. And that after another gain stage or two will produce 4000 and 6000 hz and even then it is two much because the amp will oscilate. So it will be filtered out again. And the speaker in the end will roll off as well. Not all frequencies are rolled off i.e. eliminated completely but they are eq ed so down (say -12 db) that...
My best “playing” guitar is a and Epiphone SG with Seymour Duncan’s in it. My favorite guitar to play is a Les Paul Classic w/ P90’s. I’ve had to fix the wiring, I’ve had to have the inlays glued back down, and of course the “G” slides out of tune. But it looks amazing and sounds even better. There’s something about the real thing that’s tough to beat.
the players are superb and when you take the effort to rerecord the sound examples and import it to your recording software, you can level out the instruments and have a real good impression how big the difference is. the more expensive guitars are mixed louder to give a good/better example than the budget instruments. In this case its crazy as i know how megaloud these burstbucker pickups of the epiphone are. But in the comparison video they are mixed/recorded not as loud as the gibson pickups.
Epiphone have definitely improved over the past few years. As for the headstock, I'm with Lee on this; after all, Gibson had the Orville range in Japan with a regular, Gibson style headstock.
Custombuckers are incredibly bright and airy and tend to come with A3 magnets which aren’t found so often in PAF style humbuckers and offer a VERY unique tonal palette. Bog standard Burstbuckers have long been changed out by players for primarily the reasons Lee mentions for guessing the Epiphone. If both guitars had identical pickups I’d bet a dollar to a donut it’d be darn near impossible to tell.
About setups: _Maybe_ the Gibson Custom Shop can do a great setup for a Les Paul built in America and sent to Great Britain, but I tend to doubt it. As for Epiphone, there's almost no hope that a setup, no matter how great in China, where the guitar was built and put in a case for shipment halfway around the world, is going to survive that many changes in temperature, pressure and humidity as it makes its journey in a shipping container across multiple oceans and a truck's trailer across a significant fraction of a continent. I think it's unfair to compare 2 new guitars without doing setups on both of them. These are precision instruments made of wood. They need attention to ensure that they don't go out of spec. As for this comparo, good job. These 50's Epi's seem like great guitars that can be confidently used for study, practice and gigs and give great value for the money they cost. In fact I'm super tempted to get one...
Definately paying for the Details on a Gibson, I own 2 Gibsons and 1 Epiphone (plus 2 LTDs not the same company but still relivant) The 2 Gibsons I own (both SGs of different variants, 2004 and 2005 models) even after all these years I can get the action down to half a mm with no fret buzz or anything, they setup really nice, play and sound really nice. My Epiphone sounds really nice, play quite nice but I can't get the setup excatly where I want it and the action is too high for my liking due to some high frets etc... I;ve found this to be the case on my LTDs as well. What you're paying for is the attention to detail. My 2 LTDs were cheap... however my Epiphone was actually more expensive than 1 of my Gibsons. The Epiphone was £800 from andertons not that long ago and my black SG (also from andertons in 2004) cost £500 (about £750 adjusted for inflation) The Epiphone does have some nice modern features but for £50 more.... the fit and finish isn't of the same quality of my Gibson. If Epiphone can get it sorted then I don't think I'd buy another Gibson but at the moment its still very much a "you get what you pay for" kind of thing. That being said... I can't see a custom shop being that much better over a us production guitar really considering the massive price gap... (will the custom shop be better.. yes... but for double the price? not worth it IMO)
@@jarrusjenkins I agree, the Gibsons can be good and are generally made of better select woods etc but not worth the over inflated prices (labour?). You could always have the frets leveled on your Epiphone / LTD's to make them the same as the Gibson. I had a Gibson Traditional Pro 11 the neck was very thin and the frets very big, not a good combination. I was unable to get the neck straight full lengh and certainly not a low action. My Gibson Tribute had no binding and sharp fret ends I had to file them myself. The paint wore of after 12 months on the front and the paint on the back chipped of and marked easily as if there was no undercoat. My new Epiphone '59 is better than both of them.
I've been playing guitar for 46 years. I started playing at age 10. Did my 1st gig at age 13 and have been steadily gigging since 1980. A couple of things I've learned is if you're gigging around town or at home either the Epi or the Gibson Les Paul will be a good choice. When you're actually on a gig nobody in the crowd gives a damn about what guitar you are playing. Is there a difference in the quality of a Gibson Les Paul Custom or Standard and their Epiphone counter parts? I believe there is a huge difference. I play for a living and am constantly recording for various artist and i use to do a lot of national gigs. When I'm doing a session or stepping out on a stage in front of 25, 000 people I always have the high end guitars with me, it's kinda expected on those kinda gigs. But you know an Epiphone Les Paul is not a bad guitar. And for the money they're asking you can get a nice guitar at a good price point. Whatever floats your boat is cool with me. Joe D.
The opening shot of Danish Pete with a silly grin on his face as he plays an Epiphone tells you everything you need to know. Period. And LEE!! Channeling his inner Slash on that neck pickup at 1:10. Rock on young fella!
Watching this again, as the video quality is complete dope with the new recording video K values through the roof. On an iMac giant screen this is amazing. Then with Dolby Atmos it is sounding incredible. It is like I am in the room. When The Captain said he was going to non shalant, "Turn up the GAIN" I just was in awe. I think The Captain is a hair band rocker at heart, he just does not know it yet. Excellent jamming Captain. Your idea to blind ear the test was extreme wise. I did the same and then went back. It was fun to do this like that. I think that Epiphone is worth a buy. I sure wish it was easy to buy one from your store and get it to the USA. I have thought about it, but there are some scary statemtns before hitting the final button. I wish I was in England or Europe as your shipping is very very good. Maybe if it is beneficial you could do a short section in a video of how to ship the the States. I have almost got just a pedal to see how much trade tax or whatever they call it would get me for. I think Andertons would be a must visit when coming to England. Are you and all the guys on the videos really at the store to say hi to, or are you in offices and stuff?
I do complain. These blindfold challenges are very confusing with Pete. You might not like Chappers, but he kept those pretty organized and understandable.
@@stanislavmigra hmm. I suppose. Although I have to say, I appreciate that with Pete and Lee doing these now, there's a lot less gain that's used so it actually helps me hear the differences better in these blindfold challenges.
Here's the skinny that most musicians don't know. So many players believe that the tone rests largely with the type of wood and other materials from which the guitar is made. While different woods resonate differently depending on their density and fiber patterns, the differences that exists between say maple vs mahogany are so subtle that most players cannot tell the difference. What makes the differences that most can hear are due to fingers, pickups and amps - in that order. Where the types of wood make the most discernible difference is when it comes to sustain. With that said, a guitar that is made of lighter wood will sustain longer than a guitar made of heavier wood. Point in fact, at the 0:09 mark, you can tell the guitar on the right is an Epiphone for one simple reason: the sustain that morphed into a harmonic. This is not an inherent characteristic of a Gibson Les Paul due precisely to their weight. Epiphones are typically made of lighter materials. While this is not a steadfast rule by any means, Epy's tend to be lighter than their Gibson counterparts. This weight difference translates into better sustain, believe it or not. But, if they both use the same materials ie mahogany, how can the Epy be lighter? Simple. The thickness of the mahogany on an Epy is a few millimeters thinner than the mahogany used to make its Gibson counterpart. The difference in thickness is made up for by the thickness of the archtop or not at all. Again, this is not a steadfast rule. Does this mean the quality of the craftsmanship of the Epy's is less than a Gibson? No. Definitely not. This is another myth. In fact, the quality of Epiphones are on par with their Gibson counterparts. Some would say the quality is better. How Epiphone manages to be so affordable rests in number of different factors such as the type of materials. For instance, Epiphones use mahogany but, they use a cheaper, more abundant species of mahogany. Also, Epiphones are not made in the US. They're made in China which means labor costs are far less not to mention the fact that China has fewer import restrictions when it comes to certain materials, especially wood such as mahogany, rosewood etc. Fun fact: If you take a Gibson LP and an Epiphone LP, each loaded with the same pickups, played through the same amp, played by the same player, you're not going to tell the difference in tone. You may notice a difference in sustain....maybe. Is this a vindication of Epiphone and an indictment of Gibson? No. If you can afford a Gibson instrument, God bless! Buy one. But, if you can't and you want that same "Gibson" tone and feel without the Gibson price tag, Epiphone is a great choice. I've owned and played Gibson Les Pauls my entire adult life. I own several, in fact; none of them made after 1977. Nestled among them will be found 1 Epiphone Les Paul Jr with a single vintage P90 made in 1962 that is my "go to" guitar. Cheers!
Well said. I am not remotely bothered by tone, we all have different pedals/amps/settings etc. I have wanted to post forever asking why they don’t discuss how the neck feels, are the frets rough and so on. That would be a more valuable video in some instances.
I got a brand new Epi LP Special with p90's about a month ago for $350 and it was set up decent and the frets are smooth and dressed real nice. No sharp ends. No rough frets. Straight from the box. Even $50 or $100 to have it set up and get the frets dressed is still cheaper than a low end Gibson. You can spend another $350 on "better" hardware and pickups and still be cheaper than a low end Gibson. The neck is fat and has some beefy shoulders. No crooked tuners. They all work well Intonation is good. The nut is cut well. The finish appears a little more yellow close to the edges when in direct light. Mine has no rough spots in the paint, although there are some waves in the wood under the paint, on the top upper bout, near the neck joint. Not any worse than the 2 Gibson LP Tributes that I used to have. In fact the Epi is probably on par with either/both of those guitars. The pickups are adjusted a bit high though. The pots and switch feel solid. The action is medium low. Not shredder low or slide guitar high. Of course I'm talking about one of Epiphones lowest priced models, not their "best" 59' Les Paul clone. I also have 2 ES339's: One Epi and one Gibson. Blindfolded, I can't feel a difference. There is a difference in tone though. Neither better or worse, just different. I don't know how many Epiphones I've bought when what I really wanted was that Gibson logo on the headstock. Then after owning maybe ten Gibson's, I realized, I like the Epiphones better and I wish I had kept a few that I sold. Just a personal preference. The ONLY Gibson that I have liked better than it's Epi equivalent is my 94" Gibson Nighthawk. It feels better. Of course the nitro has had a few years to wear. There's something about aged nitro that just feels "right". Maybe that's why some people like relic'd guitars.🤷♂️ Obviously the only way to truly know is to pick one up and play it, if you can. But, if nothing but a Gibson will do, don't waste your time and money looking at Epiphones. Save up and get what you want the first time. It'll be cheaper in the long run. I hope this helps.
@@Dami1rush I thought about that but, the ones I saw have the maple neck and that's just not what I wanted for that particular guitar. It's just too close to a Tele that I built. Different strokes...
I bougt the same one as Pete is playing from Andertons, Ive had a Gibson Les Paul Standard new in 1985, I prefer this one as the weight of 8.5lbs and its well balanced and believe it or not my Gibson cost me £850 in the day. The first thing I confess were to strip down my 59 Epiphone Les Paul and buff up the Maple veneer, it were a complete success with the well known cutting compound and took me less than an hour, now its a classic looking Les Paul, maybe ive lost the warrenty, but thats Ok by me. Happy days. I am so pleased that its a great sounding guitar for the money and looks amazing now.
Thank you for the wonderful comparison. I think, as others have said, that the difference in tone is small enough so that only more experienced players would really hear or appreciate it. An audience would never be able to discern a difference, and if you record your own music (home studio), I doubt there would be an appreciable difference. To me, the Gibson does sound better, but I'm simply not a good enough player to justify that extra cost. I own the Epi 59 LP and I think it works just perfectly for my needs. Now, I will say that my tricked out IBG 60s Epi LP sounds better to me, but that's because I have upgraded the pickups to Phat Cat P90s and added a Bigsby. As a stock guitar, the 59 is great!
Small improvements in tone can make the difference between a great recording that will be listened to forever and a so-so, also-ran (or even bad) recording that will disappear without a trace. Plus, we all know how much better we work and are inspired to create with an instrument we love playing and love the sound of don't we folks. That's what those small, top-end percentages are all about.
I feel like the custom shop guitar was a bit too much in the spotlight here. The '59 Epiphone is an absolutely fantastic guitar for its price. I still cannot believe you can get that quality guitar for that price. Absolutely blew my mind.
Great video again guys. Pete has said before about doing a P90 Les Paul Special shootout, so what about Comparing the Epiphone, Gibson Tribute, Gibson ‘regular’ LP Special with the custom shop version…and if you can find one an original ‘57…
Definitely think the biggest thing that gave the Epi away were those scratchy frets! Polish them up and it would have been even harder to tell. Playing them is a different story though - and I love my 60th R9, what a beautiful guitar. Seems like they kept producing them with the 60th badge after 2019 though?? That's not the diamond plate matching mine? Must admit I'm a little sore because it kinda devalues the 60th run.
My thoughts exactly man. This was so obvious when Pete was vibrating a single string waiting for it to feedback. So far I've owned two guitars from the inspired by gibson range and both had the same issue.
@@KrisGee It makes sense they don't spend them time doing it when they're building the guitars to scale, so is kinda to be expected at the price point - fortunately, it's such an easy thing to remedy at home! Polishing your frets should be a part of your annual guitar maintenance anyway. These Epiphone are seriously great playing (and sounding) guitars
There is no doubt that the 59 customer shop is a superior beast. Pete hit the nail on the head regarding setup. The custom shop 59 will have been perfectly set up and with quality strings. I love my Epi 59, but the set up out of the box was ok, but not great, the strings were 'indifferent' and the frets were a little 'scratchy'. With decent strings, a few minor setup adjustments and properly played in, very happy. Obviously there is a slight difference in price too 🤔
the setup on my Epi 59 was kind of bad - strings were too low and buzzing and the truss rod need an adjustment. And yeah, the frets were not very smooth and the strings just okay. But with very little effort, that guitar came to life and is one of my favorite guitars ever.
I got a 60th Annie R9. Arrived with perfect setup... To be honest, guitar setup is the responsibility of the shop. The reason a lot of cheaper guitars come with a 'bad' setup is that people buy over the net and the guitar comes straight out of a warehouse. When they're selling them by the hundreds, they don't have the time to set each one up. As for the rest of it, when you're actually in the room, the differences between the two are night and day obvious. Believe it or not, you can actually tell which is which just by listening to the amp when you plug the lead in.
Meh, I've never received a guitar where I was happy with the set-up and that includes Gibson & Fender Custom Shop. I like a really low action and they never come set-up that way. Plus cheaper guitars often need a fret levelling in order to run a low action and shops NEVER do that. If you like a medium or medium/high action then you might be lucky with the set-up.
Yeah I think shoot-outs between really expensive guitars and their budget equivalents is a great idea! Makes for entertaining, funny and even educational content. Like Jackson budget vs Jackson USA. Sterling vs Musicman. Ibanez budget vs J-Custom. Gretsch 2-series vs 6-series. And here's epic one...PRS SE vs S2 vs CE vs Core vs Private Stock 🤩
I got one of the 60th Anniversary '59 LP's last week. I've had Gibsons before, but this is the first one that's going absolutely nowhere - the others went a long time ago. It'll get a set of 10-46s put on it and the very lightest of fret polishes, but that is it.
Iv bought 5 Gibson’s in the last year. Supported them for about 20 years . Iv had two customer representatives hang up on me in the past week. One of their names is Wilson and today Vince wynne told me to get his name right and make a video and record our conversation. They represent Gibson USA . Wilson, like Vince both got obviously agitated when I asked basic questions. I asked Wilson about buying a wrap around bridge. He, getting mad told me they had no bridges they sold. He told me to ask luthiers for it, I asked him for Gibson certifies techs in my area. Begrudgingly he gave me some of them. I then realized on their site they sold bridges. I called back and wanted to get more info so I did and he picked up again. He told me angrily he already said they sold no wrap around, I said you do, you sell one with adjustable saddles and another. He then got more angry and said the one I wanted wasn’t available. I asked if I could speak to a guitar tech he said “ I don’t need to a guitar tech to tell you the difference between a stop at and a bridge” I told him I knew there was a difference but asked him what the difference was because I know he didn’t know. He said “a bridge has saddles” I said no, not the wraparound I’ll asking for , it has no saddles . He then said “idk what to tell you “ . I asked for his name he said “click” and I asked “click?” Then he hung Up me and proceeded to do so for the neck half hour , every time he realized it was me. Today I told Vince I usedMy notched stewmac straight edge On my third junior because it had troubles getting setup and as I suspected it had a warped neck or fingerboard. I asked what would happen under warranty (the guitar is a week old). He said they would give me another guitar . I asked if it was possible to simply fix the neck .One could change it or resculpt the radius of the fingerboard . Vince told me gibson decides what to do and they wouldn’t “do major surgery” on my guitar. I said what about sending a replacement neck to a Gibson certified luthier (which I heard it possible) . He angrily said I’m asking too much and 99 percent of people would be happy to get a totally different guitar. I said I’m just curious because all my juniors sound and look different, I like the sound of this one and it looks very nice, it has a unique grain on the body and I would like to keep it is why I’m asking.He angrily made comments about how I should be happy and I reminded him He’s equating it to me like I’m asking for a reprint of another photo I purchase but it’s not. Every guitar has it’s own sound and I don’t want to get an entirely new guitar if I don’t have to . He then said I was asking dumb questions and complaining for 16 minutes , saying ,”you love your guitar and won’t get an exchange “ while I checked and told him we were only on the phone for 9 and I’m not sure why he was so angry the whole time. He told me he “loved to have the conversation because he was getting paid and I was a man baby”. Every time I ask them for a supervisor they say no one is around. I said “I supported Gibson for 20 years despite quality control issues in recent years and have bought guitars and all he has to tell me is they don’t replace necks at all and but he had no patience and was insulting me while being petty .” And he said “you deserve to be insulted” I then stated “ so now you decide who gets insulted ? He also told me to record him and put it on youtube to record him so I said “hold on Im gonna Record this conversation and since you told me to I’m sure you won’t mind.” He then told me I need to get something to do and hung up on me and I said oh so you’re a p***y? I can’t blame Gibson for these people but when Gibson decides to employ these guys to represent their company to an entire nation you gotta wonder what is their problem? I was about to get another junior so I can have a few for live playing. Yet this makes me really resent the fact I spend thousands on this company. Like I told Vince “ without the customers you guys don’t have a job and this is how you’re talking to me” Gibson has major issues and they choose blatantly disrespectful people to represent them freely. Iv seen on forums Gibson customer service employees hang up on people often. I plan on getting in contact with them again and recording the conversation. They never know who will be in a position to relay their experiences with them on a platform. I will remember how Gibson has treated me . While this guy has been picky on yo phone calls for 20 years (like he told me) Iv been playing guitar for twenty years. And I didn’t spark the altercation. I also went back at him too. What a low class group of people that work there. The guitar has a hump in the neck from the high e side from the 1-7 frets and then on the low e side it also has a jump from the 7-14 frets. It makes a consistently playable guitar impossible without extra front now and high action. Gibson apparently doesn’t care about their instruments and thinks they are replaceable like socks. As if they aren’t in the business of making instruments. Any guitarist will tell you a guitars tone matters and wouldn’t want to just throw one away . What a sad state the company is in. I never complained about them but I’d say it’s a worthy complaint .
Epiphone never sounded so good. Hated them for years until last year when I saw your original video about these epi 59s. Now I want one. The opening jam was out of this world. Sounded like real Les Pauls.
Everyone knows the tone is in the headstock.
which is why a Telecaster is so versatile .-)
There was legitimately a study once that found sustain was affected by the headstock 😂 Don’t think that the nibbled away edges of the epiphone will make that much of a difference tho.
Brilliant 😊
@@thelastfeast3849 Bring back the large headstock for all Strats !
Toan is in the balls.
The fact that a cheap guitar can stand up so tall against an expensive one is proof that we are living in a golden era of guitar Manufacturing
The epiphone is around 1500$ new here in Canada. It’s the same price as some lower end gibsons
I literally traded in two brand new Gibson les Paul tributes for two of these 1959’s (one dark, one cherry) and I don’t regret it one bit
The Epi 1959s are light years better than any Gibson lp I’ve ever played
@@lukebroste1182but cannot beat a good cs
@@lukebroste1182 Have you compared them to the normal Standard 50s Les Paul? I don't really want to spend extra for the 59 and I plan on changing pups anyway, burstbuckers or not... but I would be curious from the guitar itself how you feel about the 50s model vs. your about 50% more expensive 59. Eventually I want both of course but I am not rich. And my Gibson money is reserved for Flying Vs. Everyone makes good Les Pauls. Only Gibson (and Epiphone) make proper Flying Vs. Classic ones, not Rhoads or Laiho style that's a totally different thing....
@ lukebroste1182 sneak one from over the border in your car. I got one in the lemon burst for $629 USD.
100%
After nearly 30 years of playing and owning a wide spectrum of guitars, I've come to the conclusion that the tone difference between a decent affordable guitar and an astronomically expensive guitar of similar build is negligible to the listener. The reason players often seek out more expensive guitars is because of how it looks, feels, and makes them feel when they play it. Unfortunately for my wallet, those qualities are worth the extra money to me. Other players couldn't care less.
Spot on. I'm paying the extra money for the real deal. I know a lot of people don't agree with me, but I've owned and played numerous Gibsons and Epiphones, and the Epis can't touch the Gibsons in my opinion. Especially in feel. Well in tone also. Lol
The 3 most import things to consider when buying a guitar. How does it look. How does it look. How does it look.
Yep, and that's tone difference in an acoustically favourable environment. When playing in outside or in a noisy bar with a band It's hard to tell the difference - especially with other factors like pedals and amps. I agree it's the feel that's important.
After 20 years of playing, I’m convinced you’re just paying for looking cool and legit to other people who fall for marketing and branding too… like myself lol. Let’s just be honest here, we want to play what the people we grew up listening to played and Gibson and Fender paid out a lot of money to make sure those idolized players played their guitars. It gives us a sense of “authenticity” or being the real deal. “Oh I’m a real player now cuz I play the real thing now.” We’re being sold a brand. Nothing more. Just like coke pepsi McDonald’s and the rest. Cheers.
@@misterknightowlandco You're not wrong. I hate that I fall for the marketing, but I absolutely do.
OK , I’m the one guy left at the end of the video . I just recently got the Epiphone 1959 Les Paul that was closest to Lee , the orangey looking one . Mine is gorgeous and crazy flamey with great movement as well . I couldn’t be happier with it and it was on a closeout sale for $799 in the States ! Also more cherry 🍒 in person than orange 🍊 . I’m loving it ! Take care everyone and Rock On !
I've never played a £5000 Gibson. But I bought one of these Epiphone 1959's and its the best guitar I've ever owned. It plays like a dream and sounds absolutely spectacular.
Same for me, bought a Epi ‘59, and can’t find a single thing to nitpick. Very happy with it.
@@gregcrain5962 Yeah it's a fantastic guitar.
I have an Epiphone "Black Beauty - 3 pickup model", sounds and plays fabulously. Needed a little bit of setting up straight out of the shop (couple of frets were a tad high). Dad has a Gibson custom shop 1960 model with a Mahogany top (has a really sweet sound). You *can* hear the difference, but there really isn't much in it. I put it down to his many years of playing :P
I got an Epiphone Les Paul 60s style coming to my house next week I’m so hyped lmfao
I got one to never owned a epiphone before but saw all the reviews would love to have a Gibson 1959 reissue but doubt that will happen back to my epi 59 I absolutely love this guitar it sounds plays and looks freaking awesome I'm happy
My wife and son bought me the Epiphone "59 in the Dark Burst. It took a while to arrive (missed Xmas) but man was it worth the wait!! What a fantastic guitar!! Its the only guitar I've played since it arrived in February!!!
"The one guy who's still watching the end of this video"
That was me Pete..... Life's been rough....
Hahahaha me too
me 2
And me ✋🏻
I skipped ahead to near end...
Yeep mates
These new Epiphones are kicking ass in every aspect and are more than enough for the majority of players. Really great job by Gibson.
Every aspect other than the fact the Epiphonea are cheaper for reasons. Those reasons are rather negative.
@@cromBumny the main reason is that you pay a lot for the name Gibson, and manufacturing cost are higher in the USA. This has little to do with craftsmanship. So this Epiphone is a very good deal
@@cromBumny gibson employees earning minimum wage liked this message
The shop should absolutely set it up and make it the best it can be. That should be the 1st perk of using a store over drop shipped to your door.
This! Completely agree. That’s one personal touch you can use to beat online retailers.
@@steviesteakbakes9643 exactly. And you shouldnt be charged for it either
@@Paul-D they do it in Canada at Long & McQuade
My shop refused to let me leave with a poorly cut nut on my epiphone. You shouldn’t do business with a shop that doesn’t
@@Paul-D That's really easy to say unless you own the shop and want to pay a good tech to do a good job. Small shops are already struggling. I'd rather pay a good tech and get it done right than some guy who's making minimum and just banging out setups.
I’m only 1:30 in, and I just want to say that Captain’s playing is fabulous! You really have grown leaps and bounds since I first started watching your videos and following your Facebook page a few years ago, maybe several years ago. Really, really beautiful, soulful playing. Wow. Cheers!
Captain your playing with the budget friendly pedal board it looks like. Pete looks like the expensive board…. Great playing guys. Always love to watch!
You noticed correctly ;) The budget pedalboard will be making more appearances in videos to come!
I think that is the reason Pete's guitar is sounding much better...
Phenomenal opening jam, Boys! I am beyond AMAZED at how those Epiphones sounded. The fact that the EPI could stay in the ring with that custom shop, and more than hold its own head-to-head with the Gibson, is mind-blowing. The sound of the Epiphone is HUGE!
Shout out to the editor, you're the best, the best, the best, the best!
Ortiz?from AEW?
captains vibe has been sky rocketing the last year. the man is improving so much!
As always, get the guitar that you yourself would appreciate the most. Doesn’t matter if it’s an epiphone or gibson, it’s all about enjoying the music you make. 🙂✌️
Yes but that doesn’t really say much as everyone would appreciate a £6000 Les Paul over an Epiphone, it’s just a psychological thing?
But the Epiphone is excellent 😆
It basically comes down to what you can afford, if you can afford a Gibson Custom shop, go fo it.
If you can’t, no big deal as affordable guitars are very playable these days with the differences often being marginal, particularly with a few upgrades and a decent setup!
@@eddycerb Whatever is right in your hands is what's right in your hands.
@Sweet Rebel Everyone's different I guess. I've had success with both. Cheers.
We are all watching til the end. Most notably when we're waiting for an outro jam! Always a sicc video you two! 🙌🏼
I'd like to hear the Epi 59 vs the least expensive Gibson
I just watched this one back to back versus the 2020 Gibson Les Paul Tributes. While not on the same video, I think the Tributes still sound better for about the same price. Gibson just has a magic to it, even stripped down.
So a Special, or Studio?
I’ve it matter much. I’ve gotten a Epi Trad. Pro IV. My grandfather has a 59. He tells me if his wasn’t played in as much as the way it is, he would have no problem having a new epi Les Paul like mine and keeping it the same way he he did his Gibson 59.
I think for the £200 I'd pay that for the gibson name on the headstock
Man I've got a Gibson Traditional as my cheapest Gibson and I don't care what someone says, the Epi just don't compare. I've compared the two. You would have to change everything out on the Epi including pickups to get it even close. And a good sounding pickup will be $350 and then another couple hundred for hardware. This of course is my personal opinion. I've did all the customizations and it just doesn't add up to a stock cheaper Gibson. People just try to say an Epi or other economical guitar is just as good to make themselves feel better LOL
I bought an Epiphone 59 (inspired by Gibson) about a year ago. ABSOLUTELY love it! Build, playability, electronics....all fantastic for the price.
Got my 59 Epi LP in the aged cherry (the one the Captain was playing) about a month ago. Loving it.
I played a Gibson inspired Epiphone while I was with my son out window shopping and I was extremely impressed with the new line. The Gibson pickups and better electronics make all the difference. The biggest issue I had with Epiphones of my youth is the muddy tone from the cheap pickups. I always swapped everything out with used Gibson parts. In the states, the upgrade is about a $300 dollar difference between Epi models. You can barely upgrade an Epiphone with “new” Gibson parts for $300. Add another $100 for a hard case that you don’t get with the less expensive line. Congrats Epiphone, you got my attention.
First ....love Pete's playing but captain has improved over the years it's always fun to watch
Yea he's so good now!
Has he, I personally think he plays the exact same easy boring shit he played 9 years ago👍🏻
@@jackphillips939 how good you are at guutar doesn't depend on speed or variety of scales you can quickly swap between. It's determined by how good you can sound with everything you know. He has improved greatly and it's people like you that discourage others from playing guitar. No one cares if you want to criticize someone just to be rude. Sit down
@@the_armada5579 ok cooool👍🏻👍🏻
@@jackphillips939 that's so mean...u can never be a musician pretending like u are a guitar god🖕
I just bought the same 59 Epiphone and its a great value for money. I was going for a Epiphone Modern....but decided on the spot to go for the 59.
I can't stop playing that thing, i love it...
I got mine approximately a month ago...It is spectacular. Literally flawless fit and finish. Plays like it was Plekt and sounds amazing. I can't believe how good it is!
I've tried to like these but every one of them I've handled in stores have had bad QC issues.
@@JT-gm4fk I have heard horror stories where the Epis wouldn't stay in tune.
You guys play off of each other beautifully. A real pleasure to listen to!
I have the Epi 59' and I love it! Sounds great in a mix and I've compared it with $2500-$4k Gibson's pretty much side by side. I couldn't agree more with you two, the Epi is great, but... there's that little something you just don't get, nor should you for the price difference. My bandmate and I dialed our amps in to sound almost identical and he was pretty awestruck that he paid $4k for his Custom and I paid $700 for mine. Of course, his will just increase in value and mine will decrease, but probably not 4-5 times as much.
I have one of the 59 Epiphones in Lemon Burst and it's a dream. It's my first Les Paul, and I'd have no concerns if it was the only one I ever have - though I wouldn't mind getting an Epiphone 50s/60s Standard one day just to have a nice proper gloss burst finish. 😅
"I'm going to be using Telecasters." - My best laugh this month.
Tickled me too
I would have lost it if Pete would have thrown his tele into the mix and The Captain would have picked it as the Custom Shop Gibson! Lol
14:12
@@guitar_fed that's what she said.
Another awesome video! Suggestion: would love to see after each jam a brief tidbit (even if just 10-20 sec) on a solo technique….ie “this is a cool lick I used here, major pentatonic, box 4, over this chord” etc. - from both Lee and Pete. Love watching you guys play!!!
Lee ending with “on that note” gave me instant flashbacks to Top Gear with Clarkson ending with “on that bombshell”
"Sadly, James May is still alive. And on that TERRIBLE disappointment, it's time to end."
Quite happy that Danish Pete has replaced Chappers tbh
Don't take it personally Chap. You like what you like. But not everyone does. Rock on.
Beautiful guitars played by beautiful people 🤘🎸
I did the blind test too while reading the comments. in the clean section i wasn't too sure but as soon as pete played at 17:42, I said yup that's the Gibson. Great video
You know what would be a really, really, really cool video? Take a Gibson and an Epi LP to one of your techs, document how he sets up both guitars to take the max out of em and then do a comparison. OR let him just set up the Epi and see how they compete. 🤘
Agreed. That expensive gib$on has had extensive attention to detail where the neck & frets are concerned & the Epi has not. Major factor in terms of feel & playability.
Even a simple setup and new strings would make a good difference on the Epiphone. I set mine up and raised my pickups just a bit, it barks way harder. My neighbor I play with has an 80s Gibson, we played together a lot of times before I set up my Epi, when he heard it after setup he grimaced and turned his gain up.
Hello guys, I just want to say, thanks for a great video presenting the
"Battle of the '59 Les Paul's - Epiphone 1959 Standard vs. Gibson Custom Shop".
🎸I just purchased one for my birthday (Aug 5th) and could not be happier about it.🎸
You've both been a great source of knowledge and entertainment all through the Covid-19 days. I'm most grateful for your hard work and awesome consistency producing very informative videos.
Audio, Video and Lighting are very well done. As a Audio, Video and Lighting person myself you guys do a A+ job. Thank you and best to you all,
Jim - Jonesboro, Arkansas, USA
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I would like to hear the epi 59 with custombuckers compares to the Gibson custom 59 to see how close they really are.
BEST CHANNEL EVER! Found you guys last weekend and have been watching non stop
I think the differences are so small [Still observable ] that you could possibly put it down to the capacitors used in each, Paper-in-Oil Capacitors on the Gibson and Mallory polyester in the Epi.
It would be interesting test if you changed the caps on the Epi to the same type used on the Gibson to see if the differences were still there, and if the Epi opened up more to sound more like the Gibson.
If that did open up the Epi more, maybe Andertons could consider doing the cap change to the Epi Les Pauls making then different to those sold elsewhere.
Clean, the differences are very apparent, especially on the bridge pup. The Gibson just sounds more full range. But distorted, things get very hard to distinguish. I’d be happy with either!
I would love to see a gig based test with guitars at different price points. As things start to re-open!? How much difference is there in a band and what are the pros and cons you are looking for. 🙏🙏
Purchase what you can afford. I myself have a Gibson LP Faded Cherry. Nice guitar, $800 used on Reverb. I bet that Epiphone stands up to my Gibson, it may be better. I'd probably consider one of these Epis down the road
The funny thing is: I’ve yet to hear a Gibson sound for or five times better than an Epiphone, but they cost four to times better in most cases.
I believe that with the same pickup in both guitar it would be almost impossible to differentiate their sound.
Nice video, looking forward to my Anderton's shop visit.
I want to see a side by side comparison with Burstbuckers in both guitars.
Or custombuckers.
The only Les Paul I own is a 1997 Orville and I play my PRS guitars mainly. Those Epiphones are sweet guitars. That said, that R9 was just stellar. Since I was watching the video and knew what guitar was being played, I called my wife in to take the blind test.
She liked the R9. It really was something.
I would love to hear a shoot out of the new Epiphone ES335 and a custom shop 335. Go on...
Been waiting for this for over a year!!!!! Worth the wait 👍 the epiphone sounds awesome 😎
These are definitely times when Epiphone gives Gibson a serious run for its money
My wife bought me a Gibson Les Paul tribute for my birthday.
I already had a Douglas Shadow pro from Rondo music . The Douglas is made in China.
The Douglas is a better guitar in almost every way.
The Epi 59 is just a tad muddier than the Gibson.
I have a Gibson but honestly these days you can’t go wrong with the Epiphone.
@@chriscantplay...2933 ya i have 3 gibsons and I recently bought 4 Epis with the new headstocks 😂. They are really great guitars for the money.
@@Voxguitarsrock LOL
Always loved Epiphone guitars , great value great sounding too , never had any problems with the guitars after purchase.
Epiphone has really stepped up its game lately. I've owned a Gibson Les Paul, a Gibson 335 Studio, and a Gibson 335 satin cherry finish. All great guitars. They all had that extra little bit of something that was hard to describe. But for me, I'll take a well made import and do some mods & upgrades because it's fun and gives me a better connection to the instrument. Epiphone is really turning out some great guitars.
I bought an aged burst Epiphone 59 limited edition from you guys a couple of months ago and I adore it. It does weigh the same as a baby elephant though. But an absolutely stunning guitar.
Baby elephant, ha I like that. I got a Epiphone Les Paul 59 and I'll bet she weighs 10 lbs. But I love the guitar. Had sharp fret ends, and them shitty tuners. Other than that great guitar. peace.
I've only the a chance to play a CS '59 once, it belonged to the manager at a local music shop that he let me play. To this day I still haven't experienced the amount of volume it put out. Same amp I always use under the same settings, but so much more out of it. I have to have that in my life at some point.
Decided to start playing again after 20 years away. Lusted for a Gibson LP Standard. Watched this video and confidently sprung for a much cheaper Epiphone to start with. So glad I did. It’s such a great guitar. I’m in love.
This was great to watch and listen to. I WISH I could play like these guys! Maybe someday…
I think Lee’s description of the comparison is spot on. The Epiphone sounded quite a lot more compressed to my ears. No criticism of the Epiphone intended here because given the respective prices and how they’re built it should be this way, but I thought the difference was really pretty noticeable.
I agree I think the wood density would have a lot to do with in all my years of playing and trying guitars I've always found the lighter ones to resonate better and Lee said how much lighter the Gibson was
The captain has definitely been practicing, and it's paying off! Sounds great
I watched the video where you guys showcased the 59 Epi at NAMM about 100 times before becoming a proud owner of a Dark Burst. It’s a seriously amazing guitar!
Thanks guys! I hear exactly what he heard in the comparison. I didn't think I would be able to tell the difference. I am really shocked at the little difference there was but it was there. I cant at this time in my life spend more on a guitar than I do on a car. So for the money I am going with the Epi 59. I would really like to heat the Epi modern LP against the Epi 59 and the Gibson's. If you are going to do a shoot out lets get all the guns in the room and see who is left standing! You are able to do that since you are a guitar store that has the inventory of a small country. So the pieces are in place. But what a great video. You guys do a great job of making me want to buy a guitar and have it shipped across the pond. That way it's an Anderton's Gibson or Epi on to boot. Nice work and keep them coming.
I’ve always thought that if you can comfortably afford the much more expensive instrument get it. If you can’t get the epiphone. Either way your gaining something. You haven’t lost something in getting a new guitar.
I mean, you’re losing the potential to get more stuff, I’d rather have the epiphone and also an entire home studio than gibson
I agree all the way. Get what you can afford and play like hell. Epiphone makes a great guitar, hard to tell the difference in my opinion.
I'd say buy the Epi and save the rest of the thousands in order to get the best amp you can, or some pedals.
@@Boosuf I'd get the Gibson and the home studio. Option 3
Take these two guitars, put the same pickups, e.g., Duncan Antiquities, in each, have both set up the way you like it, and *then* compare them. Yes, the guitars will feel different to play - they have different necks. How different will they sound with the same pickups in both?
And that‘s the real question right here
The feel of the guitar has a big impact on how you play and therefore the sound you'll get. At least that's my case.
I have a '82 LP standard and enjoy playing it like a little kid, but when I take a modified epi, which I bought before I was able to afford the 82, even though the sound used to be similar, the feel makes me come back to earth.
My favorite thing ever said (and I forget who said it) was that john 5s lava lamp guitar was made with tone lava! Lmaoo. If you throw the same pickups in 2 different (decent) guitars I don't think anyone could tell the difference. But how a guitar feels to play is what says it all to the guitarist
@@marcsoriano7161 If one is a high action difficult to play...yeah. But, to be honest even cheaper guitars are getting great playability nowadays. Everything else is easy to adjust on the electric world. You'd be surprises how many valueable frequencies are filtered from the second gain stage on most tube amps.
(above 3-4 khz and below 120 up to 350 hz on some amps).
As guitar electric distortion is multiplied basic notes then you get treble, that are multiple integers of lower, mid frequencies. So if you have a note at 400 hz, just a 5th harmonic would be 2000hz. And that after another gain stage or two will produce 4000 and 6000 hz and even then it is two much because the amp will oscilate. So it will be filtered out again. And the speaker in the end will roll off as well.
Not all frequencies are rolled off i.e. eliminated completely but they are eq ed so down (say -12 db) that...
My best “playing” guitar is a and Epiphone SG with Seymour Duncan’s in it. My favorite guitar to play is a Les Paul Classic w/ P90’s. I’ve had to fix the wiring, I’ve had to have the inlays glued back down, and of course the “G” slides out of tune. But it looks amazing and sounds even better. There’s something about the real thing that’s tough to beat.
Retail waffle, nobody takes it seriously or cares very much, yet we still watch...it is just good to watch guitars being played.
the players are superb and when you take the effort to rerecord the sound examples and import it to your recording software, you
can level out the instruments and have a real good impression how big the difference is. the more expensive guitars are
mixed louder to give a good/better example than the budget instruments. In this case its crazy as i know how megaloud these
burstbucker pickups of the epiphone are. But in the comparison video they are mixed/recorded not as loud as the gibson pickups.
Just got one of these superb sounding guitar. Once you polish the frets makes all the difference.
Shoot out between Epiphone standard and those 59 would be interesting. Also in comparison with other Les Paul's in this price range.
Yeah, can't find any. I can't decide between the 50s and the 59...
Epiphone have definitely improved over the past few years. As for the headstock, I'm with Lee on this; after all, Gibson had the Orville range in Japan with a regular, Gibson style headstock.
0:20 “That's where all the trouble began....That smile....That damn smile."
The tone is in the fingers! Two amazing guitarists!
Custombuckers are incredibly bright and airy and tend to come with A3 magnets which aren’t found so often in PAF style humbuckers and offer a VERY unique tonal palette. Bog standard Burstbuckers have long been changed out by players for primarily the reasons Lee mentions for guessing the Epiphone. If both guitars had identical pickups I’d bet a dollar to a donut it’d be darn near impossible to tell.
Saw that demo. They were close about as close as this scenario
@@leonthompson8988I saw that video too and it’s almost the exact same. This video has a discernible difference between the two
Man Captain Lee, I'll take that awesome cherry sunburst 59 off your hands lol. Great jamming out! The power duo at their best as usual!
About setups: _Maybe_ the Gibson Custom Shop can do a great setup for a Les Paul built in America and sent to Great Britain, but I tend to doubt it. As for Epiphone, there's almost no hope that a setup, no matter how great in China, where the guitar was built and put in a case for shipment halfway around the world, is going to survive that many changes in temperature, pressure and humidity as it makes its journey in a shipping container across multiple oceans and a truck's trailer across a significant fraction of a continent. I think it's unfair to compare 2 new guitars without doing setups on both of them. These are precision instruments made of wood. They need attention to ensure that they don't go out of spec.
As for this comparo, good job. These 50's Epi's seem like great guitars that can be confidently used for study, practice and gigs and give great value for the money they cost. In fact I'm super tempted to get one...
They've come along way for sure!
I have one, its the best guitar i've ever had. I have had two gibsons.
A friend just recieved a MIJ Greco Les Paul from Japan. It arrived 2 weeks after being shipping. It arrived in tune which was shocking.
Definately paying for the Details on a Gibson, I own 2 Gibsons and 1 Epiphone (plus 2 LTDs not the same company but still relivant) The 2 Gibsons I own (both SGs of different variants, 2004 and 2005 models) even after all these years I can get the action down to half a mm with no fret buzz or anything, they setup really nice, play and sound really nice. My Epiphone sounds really nice, play quite nice but I can't get the setup excatly where I want it and the action is too high for my liking due to some high frets etc... I;ve found this to be the case on my LTDs as well. What you're paying for is the attention to detail. My 2 LTDs were cheap... however my Epiphone was actually more expensive than 1 of my Gibsons. The Epiphone was £800 from andertons not that long ago and my black SG (also from andertons in 2004) cost £500 (about £750 adjusted for inflation) The Epiphone does have some nice modern features but for £50 more.... the fit and finish isn't of the same quality of my Gibson.
If Epiphone can get it sorted then I don't think I'd buy another Gibson but at the moment its still very much a "you get what you pay for" kind of thing.
That being said... I can't see a custom shop being that much better over a us production guitar really considering the massive price gap... (will the custom shop be better.. yes... but for double the price? not worth it IMO)
@@jarrusjenkins I agree, the Gibsons can be good and are generally made of better select woods etc but not worth the over inflated prices (labour?). You could always have the frets leveled on your Epiphone / LTD's to make them the same as the Gibson. I had a Gibson Traditional Pro 11 the neck was very thin and the frets very big, not a good combination. I was unable to get the neck straight full lengh and certainly not a low action. My Gibson Tribute had no binding and sharp fret ends I had to file them myself. The paint wore of after 12 months on the front and the paint on the back chipped of and marked easily as if there was no undercoat. My new Epiphone '59 is better than both of them.
I got one of the Epiphones from you guys in March, can’t afford a Gibson and I love it, play it everyday for hours in end.
I've been playing guitar for 46 years. I started playing at age 10. Did my 1st gig at age 13 and have been steadily gigging since 1980. A couple of things I've learned is if you're gigging around town or at home either the Epi or the Gibson Les Paul will be a good choice. When you're actually on a gig nobody in the crowd gives a damn about what guitar you are playing. Is there a difference in the quality of a Gibson Les Paul Custom or Standard and their Epiphone counter parts? I believe there is a huge difference.
I play for a living and am constantly recording for various artist and i use to do a lot of national gigs. When I'm doing a session or stepping out on a stage in front of 25, 000 people I always have the high end guitars with me, it's kinda expected on those kinda gigs.
But you know an Epiphone Les Paul is not a bad guitar. And for the money they're asking you can get a nice guitar at a good price point. Whatever floats your boat is cool with me.
Joe D.
I love the intro sounded 👍 great.. the feed back awesome and showed the awesome les paul tone great job gentlemen..
When will Epiphone get access to the 22nd fret right? The cutout is just not quite enough to reach it, but the Gibsons don't have that problem.
The opening shot of Danish Pete with a silly grin on his face as he plays an Epiphone tells you everything you need to know. Period.
And LEE!! Channeling his inner Slash on that neck pickup at 1:10. Rock on young fella!
Personally, I’d like some more shootouts between the custom shop vs the guitars on the higher end of the production line.
Watching this again, as the video quality is complete dope with the new recording video K values through the roof. On an iMac giant screen this is amazing. Then with Dolby Atmos it is sounding incredible. It is like I am in the room. When The Captain said he was going to non shalant, "Turn up the GAIN" I just was in awe. I think The Captain is a hair band rocker at heart, he just does not know it yet. Excellent jamming Captain. Your idea to blind ear the test was extreme wise. I did the same and then went back. It was fun to do this like that. I think that Epiphone is worth a buy. I sure wish it was easy to buy one from your store and get it to the USA. I have thought about it, but there are some scary statemtns before hitting the final button. I wish I was in England or Europe as your shipping is very very good. Maybe if it is beneficial you could do a short section in a video of how to ship the the States. I have almost got just a pedal to see how much trade tax or whatever they call it would get me for. I think Andertons would be a must visit when coming to England. Are you and all the guys on the videos really at the store to say hi to, or are you in offices and stuff?
I guess Cap'n and Pete are now officially the new Cap'n and Chappers. I ain't complaining.
He’s chappers gone for good?😳
@@thelastfeast3849 no he's stuck in Malta due to Covid
@@tantricpanda oh. Didn't know that.
I do complain. These blindfold challenges are very confusing with Pete. You might not like Chappers, but he kept those pretty organized and understandable.
@@stanislavmigra hmm. I suppose. Although I have to say, I appreciate that with Pete and Lee doing these now, there's a lot less gain that's used so it actually helps me hear the differences better in these blindfold challenges.
I would like to see a comparison between the Epiphone LP 59 with its burst buckers and the Gibson LP standard they said also has burst buckers
Here's the skinny that most musicians don't know. So many players believe that the tone rests largely with the type of wood and other materials from which the guitar is made. While different woods resonate differently depending on their density and fiber patterns, the differences that exists between say maple vs mahogany are so subtle that most players cannot tell the difference.
What makes the differences that most can hear are due to fingers, pickups and amps - in that order. Where the types of wood make the most discernible difference is when it comes to sustain. With that said, a guitar that is made of lighter wood will sustain longer than a guitar made of heavier wood. Point in fact, at the 0:09 mark, you can tell the guitar on the right is an Epiphone for one simple reason: the sustain that morphed into a harmonic. This is not an inherent characteristic of a Gibson Les Paul due precisely to their weight. Epiphones are typically made of lighter materials. While this is not a steadfast rule by any means, Epy's tend to be lighter than their Gibson counterparts. This weight difference translates into better sustain, believe it or not.
But, if they both use the same materials ie mahogany, how can the Epy be lighter?
Simple. The thickness of the mahogany on an Epy is a few millimeters thinner than the mahogany used to make its Gibson counterpart. The difference in thickness is made up for by the thickness of the archtop or not at all. Again, this is not a steadfast rule.
Does this mean the quality of the craftsmanship of the Epy's is less than a Gibson?
No. Definitely not. This is another myth. In fact, the quality of Epiphones are on par with their Gibson counterparts. Some would say the quality is better. How Epiphone manages to be so affordable rests in number of different factors such as the type of materials. For instance, Epiphones use mahogany but, they use a cheaper, more abundant species of mahogany. Also, Epiphones are not made in the US. They're made in China which means labor costs are far less not to mention the fact that China has fewer import restrictions when it comes to certain materials, especially wood such as mahogany, rosewood etc.
Fun fact: If you take a Gibson LP and an Epiphone LP, each loaded with the same pickups, played through the same amp, played by the same player, you're not going to tell the difference in tone. You may notice a difference in sustain....maybe.
Is this a vindication of Epiphone and an indictment of Gibson? No. If you can afford a Gibson instrument, God bless! Buy one. But, if you can't and you want that same "Gibson" tone and feel without the Gibson price tag, Epiphone is a great choice.
I've owned and played Gibson Les Pauls my entire adult life. I own several, in fact; none of them made after 1977. Nestled among them will be found 1 Epiphone Les Paul Jr with a single vintage P90 made in 1962 that is my "go to" guitar.
Cheers!
I love these videos of Captain and Danish Pete but I adore videos of Captain and Chappers. Please breing Rob back sometime.
There was no discussion of build quality. How are the fret ends finished? I find this to be very different between Epiphone and Gibson.
Well said. I am not remotely bothered by tone, we all have different pedals/amps/settings etc. I have wanted to post forever asking why they don’t discuss how the neck feels, are the frets rough and so on. That would be a more valuable video in some instances.
I got a brand new Epi LP Special with p90's about a month ago for $350 and it was set up decent and the frets are smooth and dressed real nice. No sharp ends. No rough frets. Straight from the box. Even $50 or $100 to have it set up and get the frets dressed is still cheaper than a low end Gibson. You can spend another $350 on "better" hardware and pickups and still be cheaper than a low end Gibson.
The neck is fat and has some beefy shoulders.
No crooked tuners. They all work well
Intonation is good.
The nut is cut well.
The finish appears a little more yellow close to the edges when in direct light.
Mine has no rough spots in the paint, although there are some waves in the wood under the paint, on the top upper bout, near the neck joint. Not any worse than the 2 Gibson LP Tributes that I used to have. In fact the Epi is probably on par with either/both of those guitars.
The pickups are adjusted a bit high though.
The pots and switch feel solid.
The action is medium low. Not shredder low or slide guitar high.
Of course I'm talking about one of Epiphones lowest priced models, not their "best" 59' Les Paul clone.
I also have 2 ES339's: One Epi and one Gibson. Blindfolded, I can't feel a difference. There is a difference in tone though. Neither better or worse, just different.
I don't know how many Epiphones I've bought when what I really wanted was that Gibson logo on the headstock. Then after owning maybe ten Gibson's, I realized, I like the Epiphones better and I wish I had kept a few that I sold. Just a personal preference.
The ONLY Gibson that I have liked better than it's Epi equivalent is my 94" Gibson Nighthawk. It feels better. Of course the nitro has had a few years to wear. There's something about aged nitro that just feels "right". Maybe that's why some people like relic'd guitars.🤷♂️
Obviously the only way to truly know is to pick one up and play it, if you can.
But, if nothing but a Gibson will do, don't waste your time and money looking at Epiphones. Save up and get what you want the first time. It'll be cheaper in the long run.
I hope this helps.
@@jimmyparris9892 Gibson special tribute... you missed out
@@Dami1rush I thought about that but, the ones I saw have the maple neck and that's just not what I wanted for that particular guitar. It's just too close to a Tele that I built. Different strokes...
I bougt the same one as Pete is playing from Andertons, Ive had a Gibson Les Paul Standard new in 1985, I prefer this one as the weight of 8.5lbs and its well balanced and believe it or not my Gibson cost me £850 in the day. The first thing I confess were to strip down my 59 Epiphone Les Paul and buff up the Maple veneer, it were a complete success with the well known cutting compound and took me less than an hour, now its a classic looking Les Paul, maybe ive lost the warrenty, but thats Ok by me. Happy days. I am so pleased that its a great sounding guitar for the money and looks amazing now.
If Lee was Rob he could have told Pete how many scratches were on the finish by ear alone.
Thank you for the wonderful comparison. I think, as others have said, that the difference in tone is small enough so that only more experienced players would really hear or appreciate it. An audience would never be able to discern a difference, and if you record your own music (home studio), I doubt there would be an appreciable difference. To me, the Gibson does sound better, but I'm simply not a good enough player to justify that extra cost. I own the Epi 59 LP and I think it works just perfectly for my needs. Now, I will say that my tricked out IBG 60s Epi LP sounds better to me, but that's because I have upgraded the pickups to Phat Cat P90s and added a Bigsby. As a stock guitar, the 59 is great!
Phat cats by Guitar fetish
@@leonthompson8988 the ones I have are Seymour Duncan Phat Cats.
If you haven't done it, I'd love to see a shootout between Sterling and Music Man guitars. JP signatures, stingray basses, cutlasses, etc...
Small improvements in tone can make the difference between a great recording that will be listened to forever and a so-so, also-ran (or even bad) recording that will disappear without a trace. Plus, we all know how much better we work and are inspired to create with an instrument we love playing and love the sound of don't we folks. That's what those small, top-end percentages are all about.
I feel like the custom shop guitar was a bit too much in the spotlight here. The '59 Epiphone is an absolutely fantastic guitar for its price. I still cannot believe you can get that quality guitar for that price. Absolutely blew my mind.
Hey they need to sell it ... so what it would be otherwise....but you can hear it gibson is more precise
Great video again guys. Pete has said before about doing a P90 Les Paul Special shootout, so what about Comparing the Epiphone, Gibson Tribute, Gibson ‘regular’ LP Special with the custom shop version…and if you can find one an original ‘57…
Definitely think the biggest thing that gave the Epi away were those scratchy frets! Polish them up and it would have been even harder to tell. Playing them is a different story though - and I love my 60th R9, what a beautiful guitar.
Seems like they kept producing them with the 60th badge after 2019 though?? That's not the diamond plate matching mine? Must admit I'm a little sore because it kinda devalues the 60th run.
My thoughts exactly man. This was so obvious when Pete was vibrating a single string waiting for it to feedback. So far I've owned two guitars from the inspired by gibson range and both had the same issue.
@@KrisGee It makes sense they don't spend them time doing it when they're building the guitars to scale, so is kinda to be expected at the price point - fortunately, it's such an easy thing to remedy at home! Polishing your frets should be a part of your annual guitar maintenance anyway.
These Epiphone are seriously great playing (and sounding) guitars
Would definitely love to see a full les Paul shoot out between all the different Gibsons and epiphone!
I'm sure that they wouldn't have all of the various Les Paul models available even within the Gibson range but it would be great if it happened
There is no doubt that the 59 customer shop is a superior beast. Pete hit the nail on the head regarding setup. The custom shop 59 will have been perfectly set up and with quality strings. I love my Epi 59, but the set up out of the box was ok, but not great, the strings were 'indifferent' and the frets were a little 'scratchy'. With decent strings, a few minor setup adjustments and properly played in, very happy. Obviously there is a slight difference in price too 🤔
the setup on my Epi 59 was kind of bad - strings were too low and buzzing and the truss rod need an adjustment. And yeah, the frets were not very smooth and the strings just okay. But with very little effort, that guitar came to life and is one of my favorite guitars ever.
I got a 60th Annie R9. Arrived with perfect setup... To be honest, guitar setup is the responsibility of the shop. The reason a lot of cheaper guitars come with a 'bad' setup is that people buy over the net and the guitar comes straight out of a warehouse. When they're selling them by the hundreds, they don't have the time to set each one up.
As for the rest of it, when you're actually in the room, the differences between the two are night and day obvious. Believe it or not, you can actually tell which is which just by listening to the amp when you plug the lead in.
Meh, I've never received a guitar where I was happy with the set-up and that includes Gibson & Fender Custom Shop. I like a really low action and they never come set-up that way. Plus cheaper guitars often need a fret levelling in order to run a low action and shops NEVER do that. If you like a medium or medium/high action then you might be lucky with the set-up.
all you need to hear- 17:23 vs 17:44
The moral of the story; Les Paul’s sound killer, period.
Nailed it.
Yes they do.
Andertons Music Co At the 18:18 mark The $5000 Buck one definitely had the greater sound, Plus "WTF" the Captains playing has improved a lot
Capt always looking at fingerboard while playing whereas Pete looking at Capt doing it 😁
Yeah I think shoot-outs between really expensive guitars and their budget equivalents is a great idea! Makes for entertaining, funny and even educational content. Like Jackson budget vs Jackson USA. Sterling vs Musicman. Ibanez budget vs J-Custom. Gretsch 2-series vs 6-series. And here's epic one...PRS SE vs S2 vs CE vs Core vs Private Stock 🤩
These Epis are super cool. Conclusion of the video for me.
Very impressive. I would be interested in seeing the same test with the same Epiphone (Serial and all) in 2 years or 5 years
We need a shootout between the Epiphone 1959 LP Standard and the Gibson LP Tribute.
I got one of the 60th Anniversary '59 LP's last week. I've had Gibsons before, but this is the first one that's going absolutely nowhere - the others went a long time ago. It'll get a set of 10-46s put on it and the very lightest of fret polishes, but that is it.
the only paul i want in this video is Pets's Paul's guitar behind him on the right =)
No negatives on historic videos, but is it just me or has Lee massively upped his lead game? Great stuff Lee!
Iv bought 5 Gibson’s in the last year. Supported them for about 20 years . Iv had two customer representatives hang up on me in the past week.
One of their names is Wilson and today Vince wynne told me to get his name right and make a video and record our conversation. They represent Gibson USA .
Wilson, like Vince both got obviously agitated when I asked basic questions. I asked Wilson about buying a wrap around bridge. He, getting mad told me they had no bridges they sold. He told me to ask luthiers for it, I asked him for Gibson certifies techs in my area. Begrudgingly he gave me some of them. I then realized on their site they sold bridges. I called back and wanted to get more info so I did and he picked up again. He told me angrily he already said they sold no wrap around, I said you do, you sell one with adjustable saddles and another. He then got more angry and said the one I wanted wasn’t available. I asked if I could speak to a guitar tech he said “ I don’t need to a guitar tech to tell you the difference between a stop at and a bridge”
I told him I knew there was a difference but asked him what the difference was because I know he didn’t know. He said “a bridge has saddles” I said no, not the wraparound I’ll asking for , it has no saddles . He then said “idk what to tell you “ .
I asked for his name he said “click” and I asked “click?” Then he hung Up me and proceeded to do so for the neck half hour , every time he realized it was me.
Today I told Vince I usedMy notched stewmac straight edge On my third junior because it had troubles getting setup and as I suspected it had a warped neck or fingerboard. I asked what would happen under warranty (the guitar is a week old). He said they would give me another guitar . I asked if it was possible to simply fix the neck .One could change it or resculpt the radius of the fingerboard . Vince told me gibson decides what to do and they wouldn’t “do major surgery” on my guitar. I said what about sending a replacement neck to a Gibson certified luthier (which I heard it possible) . He angrily said I’m asking too much and 99 percent of people would be happy to get a totally different guitar. I said I’m just curious because all my juniors sound and look different, I like the sound of this one and it looks very nice, it has a unique grain on the body and I would like to keep it is why I’m asking.He angrily made comments about how I should be happy and I reminded him He’s equating it to me like I’m asking for a reprint of another photo I purchase but it’s not. Every guitar has it’s own sound and I don’t want to get an entirely new guitar if I don’t have to .
He then said I was asking dumb questions and complaining for 16 minutes , saying ,”you love your guitar and won’t get an exchange “ while I checked and told him we were only on the phone for 9 and I’m not sure why he was so angry the whole time. He told me he “loved to have the conversation because he was getting paid and I was a man baby”. Every time I ask them for a supervisor they say no one is around. I said “I supported Gibson for 20 years despite quality control issues in recent years and have bought guitars and all he has to tell me is they don’t replace necks at all and but he had no patience and was insulting me while being petty .” And he said “you deserve to be insulted” I then stated “ so now you decide who gets insulted ? He also told me to record him and put it on youtube to record him so I said “hold on Im gonna Record this conversation and since you told me to I’m sure you won’t mind.” He then told me I need to get something to do and hung up on me and I said oh so you’re a p***y?
I can’t blame Gibson for these people but when Gibson decides to employ these guys to represent their company to an entire nation you gotta wonder what is their problem?
I was about to get another junior so I can have a few for live playing. Yet this makes me really resent the fact I spend thousands on this company. Like I told Vince “ without the customers you guys don’t have a job and this is how you’re talking to me”
Gibson has major issues and they choose blatantly disrespectful people to represent them freely. Iv seen on forums Gibson customer service employees hang up on people often. I plan on getting in contact with them again and recording the conversation.
They never know who will be in a position to relay their experiences with them on a platform. I will remember how Gibson has treated me . While this guy has been picky on yo phone calls for 20 years (like he told me) Iv been playing guitar for twenty years. And I didn’t spark the altercation. I also went back at him too. What a low class group of people that work there.
The guitar has a hump in the neck from the high e side from the 1-7 frets and then on the low e side it also has a jump from the 7-14 frets. It makes a consistently playable guitar impossible without extra front now and high action. Gibson apparently doesn’t care about their instruments and thinks they are replaceable like socks. As if they aren’t in the business of making instruments. Any guitarist will tell you a guitars tone matters and wouldn’t want to just throw one away .
What a sad state the company is in. I never complained about them but I’d say it’s a worthy complaint .
Epiphone never sounded so good. Hated them for years until last year when I saw your original video about these epi 59s. Now I want one. The opening jam was out of this world. Sounded like real Les Pauls.