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- I truly hope these mods get sued and Irina gets some reparations from it, because what they put her through is awful. Please send Irina some love and check her out on her socials!
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These doxxers need to be well-known and blacklisted for the sake of everyone's safety. Their attitudes and way of thinking are those of repeat offenders.
Even if you are not guaranteed to repeat offence with doxxing they should still be blacklisted for at least a while.
yeah why do vtubers think they can stay hidden for ever if you where scared going into this maybe you shouldn't be trying to do this as a job. not say what these people did is right or wrong but if you put yourself out there this is bound to happen one way or the other.
@@maggie3060 yeah why do vtubers think they can stay hidden for ever if you where scared going into this maybe you shouldn't be trying to do this as a job. not say what these people did is right or wrong but if you put yourself out there this is bound to happen one way or the other.
what are their names? I want to stream more and want to get their names out
They are horrible people, I’m so glad she sues them
All people who dox people are horrible
Let’s hope that she makes an example of these scumbags.
its kind funny they get mad being on a public website of course things like this are going to happen you can't stay hidden on the internet for ever that is just the way it is. if you where scared of being stocked harassed this isn't a place you should have though about starting a career. yeah it sad and wrong what these people did but at the end of the day that is the risk you take when doing things like this.
@userunknown1030 Trying to downplay a literal crime because "they're on the internet" is such a stupid argument. Equivalent to me saying, "If I walk outside and get attacked by someone, that's my fault for going out." They actively commit a crime to steal personal information to threaten and harass, that isn't run of the mill behavior and shouldn't be disregarded as a "risk if being on the internet."
@@kike7631 its not crime every where just because it might be a crime in your country doesn't mean it is crime another like i said where i am it isn't a crime. deal with it.
The way they downplay what they're doing all while shaming the victim is a really ugly trait to have.
They're very vindictive while not wanting to be called vindictive. And making the innocent pay for it.
From them freely giving away their personal information it makes sense why they're downplaying the whole doxxing thing, they don't understand the severity of doxxing at all :/ they don't value anonymity.
yeah why do vtubers think they can stay hidden for ever if you where scared going into this maybe you shouldn't be trying to do this as a job. not say what these people did is right or wrong but if you put yourself out there this is bound to happen one way or the other.
They sound like they're serial doxxers and pretty close to stalker territory too tbh.
Honestly I’d already say they’ve crossed over into that territory. They stalked her online to find all that information and then published it.. yikes
def stalkers
@@__BlacklotuS__ yeah why do vtubers think they can stay hidden for ever if you where scared going into this maybe you shouldn't be trying to do this as a job. not say what these people did is right or wrong but if you put yourself out there this is bound to happen one way or the other.
@@userunknown1030bro what?
@@etoile265 i mean most hide who they are because they know the internet isn't save then they do dumb stuff and at shocked when their info leaks.
This guy DEFINITELY had ill intentions, he just doesn't have the balls to do any of the disgusting things he wanted to do
I once sent money to another vtuber through PayPal, noticed it was a different name than the vtuber name, asked them if that name was supposed to be there and suggested using a business account instead to fix it. That is how you handle accidentally seeing someone's real name when you're not supposed to. Bring it to their attention, help them fix the issue and NEVER mention that information to someone else. You take that secret to the grave.
I'm also very pleased to know that doxing is also illegal in my country, which means I don't have to worry about that as much
Yeah, I've found online friends completely by accident. I knew an online friend's real name via paypal because I regularly buy from her, and she had her real name as her instagram, and we follow one another around the internet at this point.
it's technically illegal in most countries, afaik
it's just a small enough crime that people rarely bother to deal with it, much like if you go to court for someone stealing 100 bucks, you'll probably lose, because it's too small amount for the courts to bother with
generally you'd need other stuff in addition to that, I mean, even major creators doxing don't get real punishments, even though it's a crime
just like technically using open wifi spots you're not explicitly allowed to use, is teeeechnically illegal, but nobody cares until they can pile it among a ton of other stuff
Tf it is legal in some country?
@@sharpcrab7738 yeah but if your country doesn't and most likely wont hold up other countries laws lol. most countries say if your in the public domain you accept all risk with doing so only protecting those who aren't openly using their persona to get and make money like vtubers some countries don't care if they get unmasked doxxed because again you are in the public domain its up to you to protect yourself. they will only step in or do something about if you have proof that it is causing you harm and it can't just be feelings.
@@sharpcrab7738obviously in Japan
Please tell me that she will take legal action against these people, because for people like these, justice is the only way
Luckily she is! You can see it at the end of the video where she says she got a lawyer and sent a letter to all of them.
@@rallicat69 cool to bad nothing these lawyers can do about it lol. your in the public domain making and earning money you can't stay hidden for ever and you don't get more rights then anyone else because you want to hide behind a mask.
“Went to 4chan to defend himself”. Explains a lot about them…
Defending yourself in a known problematic website
4chanie person type behavior 💀 its always 4chanie people who LOVE Doxxing
Bro not even 4channers liked the guy according to his replies aint no waaaaay💀
@@naenae2350 you know someone's fucked up when 4channers wont side with them when it comes to doxxing topics and shit 💀💀
Friendly reminder that you cannot trust people with your personal information. Does not matter if it's friends, family, coworkers, etc. There will be people who abuse it.
i am so sorry to anyone who has been doxed or is being threatened to be … it’s truly f***ed up that some people would go out of their way to do this sh*t.
SHE GIRLBOSSED WITH THAT LAST LINE HOLY SHEET
Unfortunately online security isnt really a concern at schools (i am from Portugal btw). Ive had to do phone number changes due to breaches of security in schools that get widely ignored.
@@TheBomshakalaka same here in Sweden, your private info are pretty much open to public on any site and for small fee you can get extra info like serilal numbers on sites that store them.
Wow, this is absolutely disgusting, but glad Irina is taking legal action against her doxxers.
why are people like this.... as a vtuber I pray this doesn't happen to me :((
I hope I doesn't happen to you either. 🧊🥄🐀
@@Mr.Dollar_tree me trying to figure out if the ice spoon rat emoji is code for something 💀
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@@Mr.Dollar_tree STOPP IM SO CONFUSED
It doesn't mean anything. 🍋🥄🐀
The mockery and victim blaming is pathetic. So glad they’re in trouble
Some people are just sick, like what do they gain from this?
Simple, they want to gain fear from others, they want to make others powerless and scared of them. They want to traumatize and destroy others, literally they just want to hurt others for their own egos, benefits, and power.
Thanks for covering this Irina is very sweet person, and she didnt deserve any of this
Honestly after reading over Zataro''s messages in Portuguese, it really just feels like he was just completely blind to the severity of his actions and just wanted to find her name because he was curious. (still weird cause they weren't friends)
Now, his COMPLETE LACK OF SELF AWARENESS doesn't excuse what they did AT ALL. The fact that because of a "silly little haha funny innocent prank" her information got publicly posted online is just shameful.
She lives with her younger sisters man... Poor girl :(
Ive been in Dragon's discord server and everyone there is pretty much like that, no self awareness and just doing very messed up things for fun. They have literal nazis in there. For fucks sake they held a poll for their favourite loli character, they called it the "Cunny wars". They are very very weird
My friend, common sense is a flower that doesn't blooms on every garden. And it definitely doesn't on that mf's yard. He needs not only to touch grass, he also needs therapy.
@@mewry6669 took the words out of my mouth
What I think it's that peoples think it's right to do that because "I'm not gonna hurt you" but having only 1 person to know your real name and your adress, can lead to so much worst, and maybe get into hands of peoples who actually wanna hurt you. It is a big deal. And the way this person is doing EVERYTHING to find their real identity is just giving BIG red flag.
Still watching this video, but I truly feel terrible for her. I know what it's like to live in fear, I lied for a long time, and eventually it all came up, after I felt better to have dumped and left those people, yet I still worry if they reveal some information I slipped. I'm glad this has a somewhat happy ending.
(Finish the video, they horrible disgusting people. W Irina!"
Making someone think they got doxxed is awful. Can you imagine the amount of stress?
As someone that is portuguese, we do not claim these people.
This is disgusting, extremely damaging and disrespectful behavior.
The social security numbers are pretty easy to get in Portugal all things considered. Schools do need your ID which has the social security number and you need your ID for tests. There is an amount of money known as "family allowance" to help with school supplies and meals, which if you qualify for due to conditions your Social Security number will be necessary. (Although it usually goes to the parents but there are some cases it goes to the student especially the older they are)
Thats why you dont trust random people on the Internet.
This is all
Chronically online energy.
They need to touch grass.
I really hope she,takes Legal action on them
about the SSN thing: social security numbers are nowhere near as important or protected in europe as they are in the US, which is probably why they were able to see it on a website for irina's university. you can't really do anything with someone's SSN in europe like stealing their credit card info or stuff like that
well, kinda
it's still usually treated as an important identification thing, so if you knew it, you might be able to still pretend to be the person, or their relative, and mess with their stuff, though yeah, at the same time it's not terribly hidden
They sell it though.
What a terrible way of ruining someone's mental health. The lies, the manipulation, and then the tears when they're caught their own stupidity. The only good thing is that they should be put in Prison and then never do this crap again.
You know, there are SOME things that have an expiration date on when you can be mad about them, but DOXXING ISN'T ONE OF THOSE THINGS!!!!
"if it makes you happy" Bro you doxed her wtf
Finally something worth suing, instead of companies like Nintendo abusing it.
Sending positive vibes and good luck to Irina
Katliente, I just have to say thank you for posting, you break down the info so well !!
It's certainly one of her better videos.
Not her eating them up with the "No likes or replies to anything"
I'm so glad that she did this, take back that power and get the money!
Do yourselves a favor and listen to that last paragraph to Dragon with the Meet The Grahams instrumental playing on another tab
Glad Irina stands up for herself ❤
Holy shit, I had no idea that happened here in Portugal
Sheesh what a bunch of creeps
Yea you right . She def should sue them for everything theydone
This video is why everyone needs to be careful on the internet. Be safe everyone!
About social security numbers being public etc.
Not sure how it works in Portugal but here in Sweden we have several websites and registries where you can look up people.
Kinda like Yellow Pages but all you need is partial information. A name, an address, a phone number, etc.
You'll get their full name, their phone numbers, their address, what car they drive, how much income they have, their taxes, and there are plenty of lookup websites that, for as little as $5, sell personal security numbers and all your address history, schools you've been to, etc.
In a lot of places around the world this information is not AS private as it is in America.
Yes it just skips all this doxxing drama, everyone knows where everyone else is.
I appreciate you so much. I was a decently close friend of irina during all of that happening and even i didnt know about this until the doc came out. And honestly its frustrating
As a Portuguese, this situation is really sad and disappointing.
It's really hard to a Portuguese person grow in the Internet and actually get a public since Portugal its an small country, so this happening its such a shame :/
juroo quando eu vi que eram portugueses eu fiquei bue desapontada
as the 525nd Dragonmaster im not related to TheDragonMasters
She was kind of dumb for the store bit but....Thats three CREEPY men who are stalking her.
16:02 literally the “i do not see it” paypal name meme
"weird" is a generous way to describe these guys. it's a clinical narcissist and a freaking sociopath.
GET EM IRINA
This is so scary. It’s even scarier that they don’t/refuse to understand and how they treat her.
Stalker behavior, especially with how they belittled the streamer's fears.
In Sweden when it comes to security numbers and etc. its pretty public. any site in sweden have all your personal info in public and you can get pretty cheap. So swedes are pretty much used when it comes do doxing like not a big deal.
You can't let people knowing your info stop you from living, more than likely nothing will come out of it, get a pewpew for the other scenario.
honestly everything that happened to her, she did not deserve. i don't like Irina due to the fact she allows nsfw art of her loli vtuber, but still, no one deserves to be put through that
It's time they taste their own medicine.
This really puts to light how messed up some people can be. It's hard to find someone who can take accountability for themselves and realize what they're doing is wrong. Instead, they thought it was fine to know it and not say anything until later. Like, if you know someone has info of someone that doesn't want their info out there or just in general having this kind of stuff, inform the person before it's too late. It can literally protect someone. It sucks we still have people who do this kind of stuff. 😞
i am loving all your content you're giving voice to so many vtubers.
The moment he said he did a shout out in 4Chan was an instant red flag to me. Mentally healthy well adjusted people don’t use 4Chan regularly. Shouting a VTuber out on 4Chan is the dumbest idea I’ve ever heard. 4Chan hates VTubers. They either think they’re cringe, or the simpers get pissed when their waifus don’t notice them. All the hate/bot raids that VTubers get come from 4Chan because they hate VTubers. I’m also sensing a lot of male entitlement from him from how nonchalant he was towards Irina’s fears. Which, again, given that he’s a regular 4Channer makes sense.
I'm portuguese and makes me sad that people that speak my language does this kind of things.
Never amounting to anything is too good of a fate for those losers.
sadly this kind of thing happens alot and i would not be surprised if alot of people have not come out and said anything because they are scared
14:54 the audio acts up a bit here
Sorry if i shouldn't comment but i think it's best to comment this
This is why we choose the fucking bear…
Irina is HELLA STRONG! For that move if i was her id lock myself up in my house and never touch the internet again, and never get out of my house! She's brave for what she's doing against her doxxers
I see those 50k subs creeping up 👀
MAN IMM FROM PORTUGAL AND IM GENUINELY MAD THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE FROM HERE THAT DO THIS
God, danm, i feel so bad for her. i hope she gets well soon from all of this
damn hope she okay
Take everything, give them nothing.
To be fair, here in Brasil our equivalent to a SSN is basically public information, we use it more than our IDs sometimes, idk how portugal works, but maybe isn't that big of a deal
40 seconds ago with no views and no likes?! I’m first? Sweet! I’m gonna love this video, I’m sure, love your content Kat!
Finally a good no view comment and not a "40 seconds no views you fell off" comment.
Dude, cringe AF. Go out. Touch grass. Kat producing good content doesn't excuse your pathetic simping.
One thing you should never do. It's not a joke around because all they got to do was look it up. No text to speech Which means don't say nothing and Don't do nothing 12:26
Did anybody get a weird ahh ad on this video or was it just me 💀😕
The logic behind giving his address is a trust pact between the two individuals.
"If I ever do harm to you of any kind, you know where to pick me up. You can fuck up my life, too" is what Zartaro is saying, basically.
Just FYI, These two individuals actually committed a cyber crime. Especially the one that worked at the tech store. Should be reported to the company and sued. That person will lose their job instantly and possibly be looking at time in prison.
This kinda reminds me of the Kenji doxxing incident, cuz there’s the guy who’s two faced and the one who tries to downplay it
“Why don’t you mind your own f’n business.”
Yeah no, if they were truly respectful they’d have drawn that line already. That’s not what these types of folks usually do. You just got to deal with them accordingly and fairly(as in, not nicely).
I think the person who obtained the info - the guy working at the store, should not be kept private, especially considering that they've allegedly done this to other people. The EU takes GDPR incredibly seriously, and this is grounds for a lawsuit and a humungous fine for the store itself. At the very least, I'd put the store on blast, for not protecting customer data, and allowing it to get leaked like that.
I'd like to say more but this platform won't allow anyone to really speak, I hope she gets the right support.
Damn this is crazy 😱
I’d say he’s reacting that way is because he’s scared of legal actions.
I also came from your comment on katliente’s channel! Have you considered dual streaming to TH-cam as well?
in regards to ssn being on school website, while its weird to me too, different countries have different laws and view ssn differently. ik that in US its a really big deal bcs of the identity theft. In my country SSN is not kept that hidden, we have it on our IDs and basically you write it everywhere, on every application and even when you pay with cash onto bank account. So maybe portugal had different laws for ssn idk
6:35 September 30th ??? it's only July
Typo, they probably meant 2023
16:19 “as I’ve done to many vtubers you f word” where in the screenshots is that text???
I feel bad because two people decided to doxx someone and ruin their career. I don't get why people act like pos and think that it's okay.
Isn’t this the Vtuber that made a smash or pass list with loliz?
I'm with you let them get sueddddd
These sound like people that only can have fun doxing people, and because she warned people, she took away their fun. So, time to threaten. These aren't trolls, these are criminals.
This is so wrong so very very wrong in so many ways 😱
Ripple of the RIP.
6:21 im european, not from portugal tho but im pretty sure Social Security Numbers here do not work as american ones, it's not as secret (still sketchy to find them online but its not like "omg dont ever reveal that to anyone)
I remember seeing this like wat the heck...
So i don't know if people bought this up but what they did is illegal in the EU, also there pc shop buddies and them beached GDPR.
She a loli tuber dont you want her gone?
She’s not sexualizing herself and didn’t target harassment campaign towards other vtubers because they thought they were weird did she ?
@@LinkLinkStudios she def does sexualize herself but i think most people agree she shouldnt be doxxed. (Ik kat doesnt like lolicons but I assume shes sane enough to realize no one deserves to be doxxed.)
And by the way, sharing information to a streamer or chatter. And then lying and making stories about it. Is immediate violation of the twitch contract? Should be terminated from your job immediately 18:00
what was the motive behind this
i wonder why they did it
what do they even gain from that
She didn't even mention anything about what they d o to her so 12:18 what where they thinking?…do they not think other people exis t
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stalker much? creepy.. hanging out on 4chan is a red flag right there lol
Gura was doxxed? Since when?
Yikes
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There's a V-Tubber who got involved with my husband's (used to be) best friend and basically was one of the big catalyst that broke his engagement with his fiance of 7 years. This literally all went down a week ago and we've been gathering evidence of the affair for 6 months. We did our own investigation and got the receipts but never went public with it. I believe there's a limit to how much someone should reveal info and its got to be a very good reason to do so. Just cause our friend group hates this vtubber doesn't mean we'll dox them. Its kept between us, unless we find our more like they themselves are a pedo. They are a pedo-sympathyzer though so that left a bad taste in our mouths.
@Samkainsta We hate degenerates. We hate them both. They both knew what they were doing. I was cheated on to many times in the past by a ex to know that its both of their faults. I'll be posting a seperate comments in here to explain more of the complete story you're interested to hear. This all ended yesterday.
(Part 1) There's so much going on with this situation that I didn't share everything we did. This all literally ended yesterday as it was still a ongoing event.
My comment was more about us finding out the VTubbers info but not releasing/doxxing them. It was kept within group.
As for the EX- best friend here's the best summarized story I can give:
We noticed this guy was being weird 6 to 7 months ago. So my husband started up a investigation with just a few of us who could keep quiet till needed. We find out the best friend had joined a TCAL Discord server (The Coffin of Andy and LeyLey). There he meets the VTubber who does Twitch and ASMR on youtube along with a few others he tries to bring into our close-nit friend group in another Discord server (this ones private). We find out he brought his new TCAL friends to hang with him at his family farm just couple months later. That was something we were all concerned about cause we've been friends for years in real life and wouldn't bring strangers we barely knew to our actual homes.
So that's where we first see the VTubber hanging of his neck in a photo. The women of the friend group immediately felt something was off just due to the fact how my husband's best friend always kept his distance from women because he had a fiancée. (Barely a 1 arm side hug, wouldn't sit next to women, wouldn't let them into his room, etc)
(Part 2)
We knew something was definitely up when he got pulled over for speeding with the VTubber in his car one night. Doing 120 in a 70 trying to show off. He got mouthy with the cops and was hit with a bogus charge of stollen gun in return (outside of a speeding ticket). He was sent to jail and was out after 1 day.
The gun wasn't stollen, it was properly gifted with paperworks but this event led them to hosting a Twitch Stream event with the VTubber to raise money for legal fees to fight the bogus charge. The VTubber started lying to people that they were real brother and sister and started talking about how they would shower together as kids because how poor they were. (Stole this story from a friend of ours) And was visibly upset when someone brought up that he had a fiancée(more red flags).
Forgot to mention, these two loved role playing like brother and sister and really loved the incestual relationship of the TCAL game.
So more time goes on, we pile up more info for our investigation. Just more red flags here and there. Them "trauma bonding" at a hotel. Comments about getting back scratched because the VTubber had "night terrors". Him making a "Top 5 On Who Gives The Best Blow Jobs" putting his fiancée in 3rd place saying she was "Eh" and needed to do better. The VTubber was put in 2nd place for "Hypothetical" amazing BJs because of "stories" he heard. He kept their boots in the back of his cars for months and slept with their sweater. List goes on and on.
Also this dude's supposedly never been with anyone else physically except for his fiancée. His fiancée also lived in Texas and would make annual trips to stay with him for a week or so. This was 6 years of dedication to him.
We then find out he wanted to add this VTubber into the moving plan we were all helping our military vet friend do. It was a plan we started about a year ago. We all agreed him moving down to Arkansas to be roomates with the best friend and his fiancée was safest option so he wouldn't go homeless.
Now we suddenly had a person who wasn't making a effort to know us, let alone talk to us but saying they wanted to be friends, moving in. Someone the vet barely knew and he didn't like not knowing people. Since he is part of a group that works to prevent sex trafficking and keep pedohiles away. Also because he is a gun owner he needs to make sure the people he lives with won't be mentally unstable and try to get to his weapons. Just the basic gun safety he needs to have in place.
Thus VTubber then tries to make a effort to talk to the vet. And makes jokes about going crazy and killing him in the night. How they have untreated BPD and were a victim of SA. More Red flags as they were coming to live with a man they had only known for a few months and another that they've never met or barely interacted with. We all said this is going to end with SA accusations if we dont keep them from moving in. (More on that later)
(Part 3)
The Vtubber ends up getting brought into the plan cause rent would be cheaper if they moved in till the fiancée could move in December. They would have to leave before she got there. (The VTubbers lease wasnt up till January of next year)
So we hated this but left the final choice to them to make as it's their home. Vet friend still was suspicious of them but tried to give them the benefit of the doubt. We later find out that they were actually a transwoman. We kinda had our suspensions earlier on. No one really had a issue with that but if you're going to share a living space together you'd think you'd be honest about that incase of any medical issues?
The move in date for the vet happens, everything's cool. He gets the upstair room with locks on doors, best friend gets room with a door leading into VTubbers assigned room downstairs.
Then fiancée feels sonething off and wants to move in earlier. We all are happy she is but best friend isn't. He said it was something about finances being be harder to deal with. (No. With 4 people, bills would be less spilt into 4) So we all agreed it was bullshit, he was just mad he couldnt spend months having his affair under the same roof for months. And that he probably planned to pay some of their rent. (We find out later VTubber is 35k in debt)
The move for both fiancée and VTubber happens. He goes and spends a few days alone with the VTubber first in Arizona under the guise that they ran into problems even though we know there weren't any and there was a set schedule for 2 moves. He made his fiancée wait those extra days when he should've already been to get her.
This is when we finally had the last straw and got into his Discord DMs. (He had given his best friend access to it years ago). That's when we get concrete evidence of how fucked up everything was. He was s*xting and exchanging n*des with the VTubber. Fantasizing constantly of involving his fiancée in their acts. How he failed to get 3some because his fiancée is not into that stuff. (Especially since she's a SA survivor and has trauma do to it.) More degenerate stuff.
We screenshot these convos and wait. It was too late now to stop the move so we had to wait and get to the house before they did to surprise him and get him to confess before he moved them in. (We live 7 hrs away across states)
They arrive and the vet and my husband take him to the farm to talk. They tell him everything we've gathered for 6 months and how he needs to tell his fiancée himself. He plays innocent for a while until he realized we had legit proof. He tried to say his fiancée knew about the VTubber relationship with him and was ok with it. We said bullshit. He said he'd go talk to her after they moved the stuff in. They get back to the house. He finishes and then just takes his fiancée and the mistress into his room and goes to sleep. (Fiancée had agreed to share the bed till the Vtubber got a bed since they didn't own one).
We were shocked, hurt, and ashamed. This night, for a second, made us think that the fiancée did know so we left. (Me and my husband and our kids) We literally drove long distance to do this in person. We said we'd stay for 2 more days but when the fiancée woke up the next morning and saw we were gone she started getting concerned. She reached out and my husband told her she needed to hear things from her fiance. Seemed like he was no longer wanted there. She tried to talk to her fiancée but he wouldnt say anything. So she went to the vet friend and he told her everything we had compiled for 6 months. Had to apologize for not telling her sooner but we hoped her fiance would have maned up and told her himself. We warned him. She wasnt mad at us and understood we had to get physical evidence before accusing someone.
Fiancée tore into him and said VTubber needed to leave immediately. He tried to keep that from happening at first. More info keeps coming out as this goes down, like how he had more then just the VTubber on the side. At first he wouldnt let her see his DMs but we had to coax him into it. 2 more people popped up. Fiancée was done and she left that day. The vet roomate told him he couldn't live with the VTubber in his home and that they needed to be gone. VTubber left like 4 days after they had moved in.
The (ex)best friend still didn't want to apoligize to anyone and mopped about for a few more days. He wouldn't take anyones advice to try to fix what he could.
Then the VTubbers gf(?) messeges the ex-fiancée saying that the VTubber had been "assaulted" months back by the best friend and that he had planned on assaulting the VTubber with his military roomate.
This pissed everyone off and proved what we had said months prior. They were going to leave and accuse them of SA.
And they did.
We find out he was still talking to the group of people that didn't care about what he did because they too had been cheaters and degenerates themselves.
And then he does the thing that put the final nail in the coffin. He went back to the VTubber. The person who just accused him of SA. Yup. He's dead to us now.
We couldn't just leave it at that cause our vet friend still has to live with this guy for a year. He had told him he didn't care about any of us, he blocked us all, and that he was proud of what he did. Said he had found the idea of doing the 3some hot because it involved SA trauma. Didn't think he made a mistake and would have continued had he not been caught. That he was attention starved and the VTubbers and other gave it it him. That he wanted more experiences since he only been with one person so he could use that to be a better "lover" to his fiancée. He told him that he believed everyone was using him and not the other way around. That my husband had used him for 12 years. This broke my husband's heart cause this was his best friend. He had done so much for this guy. He was even the best man at our wedding. (Which left a sour taste on that memory). He didn't just burn bridges, he nuked them.
We found out to during the move that the VTubbers roomate was secret pedophile. They hadn't touched anyone yet so they were ok with them. Like what? So a pedo-sympathizer is coming to live with a guy that literal fights against sex trafficking and pedophiles. That's a recipe for disaster too.
(Part 4)
So vet friend went and told the (ex)friend's sister first. She and her bf posted it on facebook and told all the relatives and friends they could find. The vet then went and told the (ex)friend's grandfather (who was the guarantor on the house) and his mother before the (ex)friend could. (He had told him he would tell a skewed version to his family and tried to bluff again that they would be ok with all this).
Nope, yesterday morning he was met with some justice. His grandfather was disgusted about the affair. Was disgusted that the "new" group of friends were ok with shit talking military veterans and people with PTSD. Was shocked and disbeliefed that his grandson wanted to act out his fiancée SA calling it "trauma therapy" and how he planned to coarse his fiancée into a poly relationship she would hate.
His grandpa revealed that he wasn't even on the inheritance since his grandmother died last year because of how he had been treating them at that point. (My husband was there for that funeral too) So all that baosting about getting the farm and two houses and all that money, just gone. And now he definitely wasn't going to get a cent.
He also had to find out that his grandson went around shit talking his family to others. Saying he couldn't wait for him to die and get what was his.
His mom said he wasn't welcomed back to the house. He already shoud have been out living on his own. He had treated her like a maid. He didn't pay any bills but his phone and any personal stuff. He always complained about having to do any chores in the house or on the farm. And we now know he made us all belive his sister was the worst person ever. (We apologized to her privetly)
He barely works 3 days a week , 6 hr shifts. He doesn't do any chores at the new house so the vet friend is pissed off about that too. This dude expected his fiancée to take care of him while he messed around with the VTubber and played games all day. Fiancée revealed how she had to be his maid everytime they were together and bend over whenever he wanted. Also found out the savings he bragged about him making himself was actually the college savings his deceased father left him years ago. And he had spent most of it. He dropped out of high school as a senior just because he wanted to and didn't want to get GED even though his grandfather offered to pay for his classes and test. He also claimed we made death threats (specifically my husband and I to the VTubber) because he heard it from the VTubber's Mods on their Discord. A Discord we aren't a part of. He said he just wanted to believe them then us. We actually fear for the safety of ours kids since he knowsnwhere we live and he be more capable to dox people to get the heat off him.
So vet friend did what he could and the grandfather told him he is ok to leave anytime and his grandson will have to figure out how to handle $1300 a month. He caused all this and now needs to live with his choices.