Why does a billionaires daughter want a measly 20k ? something else is going on ! And why do they have one child and not the other ? And why isn’t the mother paying child support for the child that she doesn’t have custody of ? This is a mess
Monique Sinned they don’t. They have to pay the guardian ad litem. Has nothing to do with the case specifically. But as long as the case continues they have to keep paying.
It sounds like they accused the mom of being an addict. They put a guardian to keep an eye on the kids. Its not the mom wanting money. Its the guardian.
I once dated a man with an ex-wife and 2 children. Then I wised up. Too messy, too much drama. Single and [very] happy now! I did try to make it work but he wouldn’t man up and stop the drama with his ex. He was always trying to make her happy and complying with her demands to avoid going back to court. And the kids were wild, zero discipline from both parents. I understand some blended families work and applaud them. It wasn’t my case.
Hahahaha! I hear you. I would date a man with children but that's because I have kids. When I didnt have children... no way!!! It is a lot of drama and kids cost a lost of money.
Imagine for a moment- being the guy! And women wonder “ where all the good guys (that marry) have gone? No sane and sensible man would ever marry these days.
I have children myself but they are teens. I dated someone with kids under ten and the ex’s were nuts. The drama was over the top. Eventually I figured I was happy with only guys with no kids or with teens or better. Worked out much better!
As a divorced guy with two kids I have found single moms are always trying to latch on to someone but almost all women tell me "I ain't raising someone else's kids". After 3 years of separation & 2 years divorced I totally get it. My ex starts something all the time. I don't even want the drama, there is no way I would invite another woman into the drama. I say never marry , stay single & learn to be happy & content on your own. To bad there is so much division between the sexes but divorce destroys so much it really is not worth it any more.
This doesn't make sense...her current husband isn't telling her everything. How you make a household income of 120,000 a year and you can't afford a lawyer. They have other debts they are not disclosing. There are lawyers out there that work on pro-bono or on a retainer if they look hard enough.
He only makes 4k per month; she states that explicitly- they keep their finances separate and he is required to keep his other child they do have in private school as part of the custody deal which is likely a few thousand per month as well.
Why on earth would you marry someone with all of this baby momma/baby daddy drama? She sounds like a sweet woman, but goodness. This is just sad. Should've listened to her gut and not her heart.
@@JessicaO490Z she was the female so she probably asked for it and granted it, women have a heuge bias in their favor when it comes to divorce and family courts
@@dogguy8603 And especially one with 3 attorneys! She (her parents) paid in, they are always going to get preferential treatment over someone who cannot buy a lawyer.
@@Jemgirly ive had to go to court with my ex on multiple occasions and honestly I wouldn't get married until my kids are over 18. Its unnecessary stress on the marriage because of someone trying to be petty and going after the one thing they can go after
You missed key notes there. They live in miami The kid HAS to go to private school The guardian fee The grandparents are RICH Lawyers are expensive. Not hard to understand why they can’t afford a lawyer if you listen
This is why when I was a young gal that I wouldn't have married a man with children. I was too selfish and knew it. Just in that I didn't want to share my life in a blended family type of situation and all the nonsense that goes on with that.
I saw many women on match boldly stating the same thing. Yet a single man is expected to "step up" and accept a single mother as a package deal. Double standard per usual.
Why is the wife calling in🤔🤔 girl this is not your fight. He needs to be the one calling. Sounds like the wife is taking this on more than he is. Run girl 🏃♀️
@@luke7842 Exactly! You nailed it on the head. Here in Georgia there is a program called CASA. Each family is assigned a representative to help litigate the court to help make a smooth transition, especially for the children.
Following this channel for a while something's becoming evident... children are tax deductions while married, financial wedges during the breakup, and tools of revenge once divorced, but seldom children as God intended.
QuintBlitz or why you should be wise in who you marry and then take divorce out of the equation. Marriage was not meant to hop in and out based on your happiness levels.
Exactly. Yeah, I know Ramsey is a Christian that believes in marriage. However, allow me to make a recommendation to ALL the men that follow this channel: D Ramsey is an excellent financial advisor. Very smart, but simply uses common sense. When it comes to the financial aspect...his advice is pretty spot on. NOW, when it comes to the marriage piece, MEN DISREGARD IT! DON'T EVEN entertain the idea. Protect yourselves. Enjoy women, but DON'T sign ANY legal documents with them! Merry Xmas folks.
I am going through this now. Dave doesn’t understand the custody battles. My ex can bring me to court as often as she wants, I ran out of money to afford a lawyer meanwhile her dad was fronting her lawyer bill. Once I ran out of money I couldn’t afford my lawyer and we went to court yet again. She had a lawyer and I did not. I lost because of it. This will continue this way until my youngest is 18 years old. 8 years of this, a marriage is hard pressed to survive this long drawn out process. Courts do not care, meanwhile your debt continues to grow. Only two options and this point give up your kids and wait until they are 18 to have a relationship with them again or continue to let the debt grow.
You really need a lawyer, if you don’t get one she will just automatically when whatever she demands. If I was you the kids come first then the house and then a lawyer.
I went through a situation like this last year. We terminated my now daughter’s biological father’s rights. The guardian ad litem was over $3k and our lawyer cost about $15K. The bio fathers lawyer was court appointed. And kept ordering a continuance. It was frustrating, but it’s worth it. Trust me.
I once dated a man who had...a 5 year old daughter...who had no discipline...breaking my things on weekends....and so...I stopped. I said adios...bye bye.
Get a divorce. He can declare bankruptcy. You can live together until after the kids turn 18. Then remarry if you want. Harsh, but likely the better advice than what you were given. These types of marriages are not healthy.
The ex-wife isn't demanding $20,000 the court is ordering them to pay a third party the $20,000 they owe the third party. The ex-wife is irrelevant in this!
Very true. They would be appealing the verdict, not trying to sue the ex or whatever. Atleast the ex is paying the fair share. Billionaire parents and drug addiction or not. She found a way to pay.
Exactly. Why do people think that they can just not pay for their child if they are divorced? You have to pay. Job or no job. If I lose my income, I cant just stop feeding my child.
Samantha Smiles The thing is though, courts order Child support way above what is needed. And most “mothers” do not use the money on the child, but on themselves. It does not cost 1k a month to care for 1 kid, or even 2. Its called child support, not support your spouses lifestyle. Thats Alimony, which I also (mostly) disagree with. The only exception to Alimony, should be if one parent stayed at home with the child, and the other worked, and supported them, Alimony should only be paid out until all the children are 5 years of age, which then allows the mother to work. It is stupidity that courts make a person pay to the tune of a lifestyle, that is ludicrous. I could easily feed kids, clothe them, for less than 100$ a week. The courts always take men for a ride.
Kay this isn’t even about child support. This is about paying for very expensive legal representation for the child (aka guardian ad litum) for a court case the ex has no interest in ending.
The daughter of billionaires was married and had two kids with a guy who doesn't have money? He didn't think he'd be taken to the cleaners and lose the kids eventually here? smh. Sad but we make choices and have to live with them.
I’ve never been married, don’t have children and have not heard of this type of situation. But, it makes one wonder about the legal system. As I’ve often thought, it’s more legal, than moral.
@@eliocosmos I’ve now been in probate, for the past 2 years, with a malignant narcissistic former sister. From my POV, law has just about nothing to do with morality. It’s about what can be gotten away with. And that is with understanding that the law knows, nor cares, about either adversary.
I agree 100%.never marry someone with kids.those kids will never accept you especially boys.they will disrespect you if they are teenagers. If you want to marry find someone without kid or stay single.
@@jimroscoviusThere is nothing you can do to fix a marriage, if the other person insists on leaving. Even if you never did anything objectively wrong to cause the marriage to fail, there is nothing you can do to prevent divorce. There is no burden on the plaintiff to prove the respondent culpable of failing the marriage.
xSalamz And it’s telling that her husband isn’t the one on the phone with Dave seeking advice. I hope she wakes up before it’s too late. I’ve seen situations like this before. They never end well.
SBF News And it’s this kind of thinking or lack thereof that can ruin your life, your future, and your finances. Does this young lady sound happy to you? She sounds absolutely distraught and filled with anxiety. I believe in creating my own baggage with a partner who matches and responsibly managing that baggage in an efficient goal oriented way. Not go around and try to play clean up woman to somebody else’s mess. Life is about choices. You can choose unnecessary struggle love and live in somebody else’s misery if you want to. Knock yourself out buddy. My mother who is a bible reading and praying woman always told me to make sure when I choose someone to marry, to make sure we are equally yoked. I would never pick someone with a metric ton of baggage as compared to my 2 pounds of baggage. There ain’t a thing superficial about this approach to choosing a partner. You feel free to choose people using whatever criteria YOU use. If that includes legal cases, 5 kids, a drug addict ex, and mountains of debt......I want you to love your decision? Okay? I like employing common sense and peace in my life too much to ever settle for such chaos. Life is hard enough as it is.
Her husband is probably not allowed to talk about the case openly while his wife is under no such order. Besides she loves this man and I am guessing his kids too, she just wants the stupid court battle to be over even if it means they don't get to spend time with the daughter.
They make $10000 a month and can't afford an attorney? There is more going on here than meets the eye. I don't think private school is an option if you make 120,000 a year and 60% of that is the new wife's income.
I do find it odd that she is calling and not her husband. There is a bunch of stuff on the husbands side that she is not disclosing or he is not disclosing to her.
I'm wondering if the last caller's husband married her and her $6000 a month to pay off HIS child legal problems?? The ex wife is punishing not only the ex husband but the new wife.
These people who keep saying how can they not afford to hire a lawyer have clearly never hired a lawyer before. At 300 an hour plus retainer of 5 to 10k or more! A couple phone calls, an email or two, and an actual court appearance... bam $10,000
Also, if the mother's family has the kind of the money this lady's talking about, she's not cruising for her stuff, she's getting it delivered. This might be one of those "you can't fight city hall" situations. You gotta know when to cut your losses. Getting an attorney, maybe even a pro bono one, or speaking with the GAL are the best bets. Cuz god forbid you claim hardship to the Court and they ask for your records and see you hired a PI instead of paying the GAL, your goose is cooked.
This girl wanted a payday and now reality set in. I wouldn’t be surprised if the caller started seeing the dude when he was still married. He owes the money, he needs to pay it. Take a loan and pay it off. She keeps saying “we” but it ain’t. The end.
Wait ,so this man marries a woman with parents who are billionaires and he is poor making a mere 4000/month?!? If course he will loose either way. He’s done! Woman, please leave this man. Leave him and mind your own business. You do not need this stress Candice! Leave him! And men.. just don’t get married!
J. B212 but that’s what the Ex wants, she wants him to be miserable because she is miserable! No. Don’t leave, fight the battle, even David killed Goliath
Wow ..starting her marriage off with his debt because of another marriage....F**k that, I can do bad on my own. Geez, what was he thinking getting married again before he got the problems solved with the first🙄🤔
Lawyers using time to force somebody to hire a lawyer and bleed them of their funds, should be something a judge recognizes and puts a stop to it immediately.
Give them the kid. He will, unfortunately, not last very long and all will be out of their misery or he'll turn out like Mom. How's the girl doing? Ex could care less and her parents failed with her so are trying for a do over. Start your own family. Dad can mourn his first two. Wonder how this came out.
Omg, why is the husband putting his poor wife through this? Why is she contributing her money towards his custody battle? Men need to make peace with their baggage and not drag it into new marriages. If they want any peace at all and the mother is ruled fit by a judge they should concede to the mom. These are always losing battles and it’s the new wife who suffers...
Their decision to not get a lawyer has cost them dearly. They also need to agree on how far this will go. It may be a losing battle. Sometimes you have to let it go. But get a lawyer first.
Did I watch a different video from everyone else? The ex-wife, attorneys, and judge are all irrelevant here. The ex paid her court-mandated obligation to the guardian ad litem. It's the husband that's refusing to pay his half and seems thinks his ex should be forced to foot the bill because she has wealthy parents. The judge rightfully struck down that nonsense and reiterated that yes, the husband still needs to pay his agreed-upon half to the guardian ad litem. Do more than read the video title.
Dating a person with kids is one thing but marrying someone with kids should be out the question because the kids mother or father can dip there hands in your income legally because of the child support
I don’t date men with messy ex spouse drama. I simply won’t. I realize not everyone is able to have a healthy coparent situation for reasons beyond their control but it’s not a situation I would want to involve myself or my daughter in.
This has nothing to do with the ex wife. The judge always makes the biological parents split the fees of a guardian ad litem. Just because you split up doesn't mean you get to opt our of paying for your child.
Guardianship can be an abusive curse. Guardians bankrupted my neighbor's mother leaving less than zero to the four kids. The Guardian was appointed because the youngest daughter - a drug addict - moved in with the mom and was spending her money without authorization. This is what the court did - and it was worse.
If people know the ex is an addict, then why is it so difficult to get custody? Find the proof you need and present it to the judge. A lot of states allow minors to choose which parent they want to live with as long as the child is a certain age. The age is different in each state.
Before marriage, look up courts of equity and no fault divorce. This is why America is such a mess with marriages now. Better to get married in the Philippines where divorce is illegal.
Dang. A lot of bitter people in this thread. It is possible to actually succeed in marriage. Even in a second marriage. Trust me: I am the second wife. There was a lot of drama with the Ex for a while. $4000 a month in child support and alimony for a couple years. But we made it through, and we are thriving on the other side. No reason to not get married, just be wise with who you choose, and how you navigate any messes from a previous life.
Zichqec oh my goodness, you’re so welcome! My hope, personally, is in Jesus Christ. Without Him as the solid rock on which I stand, idk if I could have handled the cleanup and healing process. The rest... falls into place. ❤️
I don't care for the tradition of marriage. However, I believe in finding your happy in whatever form works for you. With that being said, I agree. There are a lot of bitter people in this comment section.
And that is so, so easy for a woman to say in 2018. Thanks to no-fault divorce and our leftist court system, I can be financially cleaned-out (completely) over nothing more than, "I'm not in love with you anymore". And that's not even taking into account the women who up the ante and claim abuse in an attempt to get criminal charges filed against the husband. No. Thank you.
Why does a billionaires daughter want a measly 20k ?
something else is going on !
And why do they have one child and not the other ? And why isn’t the mother paying child support for the child that she doesn’t have custody of ?
This is a mess
Monique Sinned they don’t. They have to pay the guardian ad litem. Has nothing to do with the case specifically. But as long as the case continues they have to keep paying.
Darksydesamy
I listened to it again .
You are correct .
It’s still a sad situation .
The daughter has a lawyer liar saying what to do.
It sounds like they accused the mom of being an addict. They put a guardian to keep an eye on the kids. Its not the mom wanting money. Its the guardian.
There are pushing him out
I once dated a man with an ex-wife and 2 children. Then I wised up. Too messy, too much drama. Single and [very] happy now!
I did try to make it work but he wouldn’t man up and stop the drama with his ex. He was always trying to make her happy and complying with her demands to avoid going back to court. And the kids were wild, zero discipline from both parents.
I understand some blended families work and applaud them. It wasn’t my case.
Hahahaha! I hear you. I would date a man with children but that's because I have kids. When I didnt have children... no way!!! It is a lot of drama and kids cost a lost of money.
@@samanthasmiles9112 that's why where are no good men they all been taken for a ride
Imagine for a moment- being the guy! And women wonder “ where all the good guys (that marry) have gone? No sane and sensible man would ever marry these days.
I have children myself but they are teens. I dated someone with kids under ten and the ex’s were nuts. The drama was over the top. Eventually I figured I was happy with only guys with no kids or with teens or better. Worked out much better!
As a divorced guy with two kids I have found single moms are always trying to latch on to someone but almost all women tell me "I ain't raising someone else's kids". After 3 years of separation & 2 years divorced I totally get it. My ex starts something all the time. I don't even want the drama, there is no way I would invite another woman into the drama. I say never marry , stay single & learn to be happy & content on your own. To bad there is so much division between the sexes but divorce destroys so much it really is not worth it any more.
There are ALOT of people in this marriage :
Husband, wife, kids, ex-wife,, her parents, judge, lawyer (s)
Mediator... third lawyer.
This doesn't make sense...her current husband isn't telling her everything. How you make a household income of 120,000 a year and you can't afford a lawyer. They have other debts they are not disclosing. There are lawyers out there that work on pro-bono or on a retainer if they look hard enough.
JunkFood Vegan probably up to their eyeballs in debt.
JunkFood Vegan 120 is not that much money. Lawyers are really really expensive.
120k is not that much in Miami
120k is poverty in California
He only makes 4k per month; she states that explicitly- they keep their finances separate and he is required to keep his other child they do have in private school as part of the custody deal which is likely a few thousand per month as well.
The sad reality is that she should not have married this guy.
That too.
He messed his life up, why is this sad? Surrender the kids and move.
Yep.
But he's so hot!
Women always pick the worst guys. Always
Why on earth would you marry someone with all of this baby momma/baby daddy drama? She sounds like a sweet woman, but goodness. This is just sad. Should've listened to her gut and not her heart.
Yess
Naw she sounds like she wears the 👖 in the relationship but slowly has found out she better find a 👗🥴
The judge is ordering a mid 40k parent to pay for private school? This story does not add up in so many places.
It's common in PA.
He's married so I'm wondering if they counted her wages too. 🧐 Or if he used to make more so they based things like the private school on past income.
@@JessicaO490Z she was the female so she probably asked for it and granted it, women have a heuge bias in their favor when it comes to divorce and family courts
@@dogguy8603 And especially one with 3 attorneys! She (her parents) paid in, they are always going to get preferential treatment over someone who cannot buy a lawyer.
You pay for aleast half of school
Never marry someone who's ex is after them for child or spousal support!!
You sound like a selfish POS who doesn't deserve a mate who has any true grit.
Well, he might have enough money to pay it.
Amen!
Never get married under any circumstances, especially men.
@@Jemgirly ive had to go to court with my ex on multiple occasions and honestly I wouldn't get married until my kids are over 18. Its unnecessary stress on the marriage because of someone trying to be petty and going after the one thing they can go after
$10,000 dollars a month income and can't afford a lawyer?
you can't win against a billionair parent. they higher a better judge
My wife and I make $8250 a month and we can’t afford an attorney.
Lawyers are like 300 and hour plus retainer
You missed key notes there.
They live in miami
The kid HAS to go to private school
The guardian fee
The grandparents are RICH
Lawyers are expensive.
Not hard to understand why they can’t afford a lawyer if you listen
I make $2-3k a month and I have an attorney currently I pay monthly. Most attorney's will bill you what you can afford monthly. Otherwise ditch them.
The sad part about this is that you need to pay a lawyer in order to have a reasonable discussion in court.... crazy.
No you dont. Youvcan represent yourself, you just not likely to win.
@@fauxbro1983 ..... which is why you need to pay a lawyer
This is why when I was a young gal that I wouldn't have married a man with children. I was too selfish and knew it. Just in that I didn't want to share my life in a blended family type of situation and all the nonsense that goes on with that.
You're right. You're selfish and everyone knows it.
I saw many women on match boldly stating the same thing. Yet a single man is expected to "step up" and accept a single mother as a package deal. Double standard per usual.
@@mikec.4343 Completely on the money!
@@mikec.4343 - No. I would give the same advice to a man: run in the opposite direction, as fast as you can!
Why is the wife calling in🤔🤔 girl this is not your fight. He needs to be the one calling. Sounds like the wife is taking this on more than he is. Run girl 🏃♀️
And she even makes 25k more a year than he does
Yep.
They are married. Its THEIR fight now
@@luke7842
Exactly! You nailed it on the head.
Here in Georgia there is a program called CASA. Each family is assigned a representative to help litigate the court to help make a smooth transition, especially for the children.
Following this channel for a while something's becoming evident... children are tax deductions while married, financial wedges during the breakup, and tools of revenge once divorced, but seldom children as God intended.
Almost every clip from this channel reminds me why I shouldn't get married.
QuintBlitz and to not have kids
QuintBlitz or why you should be wise in who you marry and then take divorce out of the equation. Marriage was not meant to hop in and out based on your happiness levels.
Yes, the caller should have said, "Good luck with aaalll THAT!" to that guy.
True.
Exactly. Yeah, I know Ramsey is a Christian that believes in marriage. However, allow me to make a recommendation to ALL the men that follow this channel: D Ramsey is an excellent financial advisor. Very smart, but simply uses common sense. When it comes to the financial aspect...his advice is pretty spot on. NOW, when it comes to the marriage piece, MEN DISREGARD IT! DON'T EVEN entertain the idea. Protect yourselves. Enjoy women, but DON'T sign ANY legal documents with them! Merry Xmas folks.
I am going through this now. Dave doesn’t understand the custody battles. My ex can bring me to court as often as she wants, I ran out of money to afford a lawyer meanwhile her dad was fronting her lawyer bill. Once I ran out of money I couldn’t afford my lawyer and we went to court yet again. She had a lawyer and I did not. I lost because of it. This will continue this way until my youngest is 18 years old. 8 years of this, a marriage is hard pressed to survive this long drawn out process. Courts do not care, meanwhile your debt continues to grow. Only two options and this point give up your kids and wait until they are 18 to have a relationship with them again or continue to let the debt grow.
Never marry someone with baggage
What if you meet them at an airport?
@@heff434😂😂😂😅😅😅
@@heff434maybe they should’ve thought about that before they did what they did.
So you're never getting married
A GAL should have a set fee, typically less than 5k. Why on earth has its gotten up to 20k each side? There is something really shady going on here.
I'm late to the party but holy heck yeah. Midwest and my GAL was 500 total, one time fee. 250 compared to ongoing 20,000+? Something is wrong.
Maybe something to do with the people being mega rich.
You really need a lawyer, if you don’t get one she will just automatically when whatever she demands. If I was you the kids come first then the house and then a lawyer.
Well the lawyer would come first in order to protect those other two.
@@michaelweyenberg6238Yep. I hate debt, but they can’t win against three lawyers. They badly need one.
i'm 100% agree with Dave. i feel sorry for you Candace, i have no idea how you decided to involve in this situation.
today: Im a happy single gal.. doin my thing.
Right there with you...I absolutely LOVE being single! This channel just confirms that...
Same sis.
Most men agree with you ladies. Cheers.
@Dawn Hammons why not be single? Are you miserable ?
The lawyers are doing it on purpose
Yup, they are conspiring with the guardian ad litum, taking advantage of them because they have no attorney
Lawfare
There are parts of this story that were either left out or are lies. Something is wrong here......
Wendy Ward USN/ Combat RN she is the current wife who has her own biases.
Yeah they are fighting very rich people.
I doubt it. It’s called lawfare.
Agreed. They don't know what the other side wants???
Is there any follow up to see how this turned out? I'd like to know what they did and what was the result?
And yet Dave wonders why people sign a slip that doesn't entitle them to half your share if divorce happens.
WHY isnt her husband calling in ? Why isnt he in tears ? Sad but this woman married into this.
He can get better job that pays more.
A mess she got in to with that man sad.
Completely agree with Dave on this one! My ex with a rich daddy used the courts to try and break me to give up my kids.
If you can’t afford them you shouldn’t have custody
@dcg590 - Not being able to afford back-breaking legal costs is not at all the same thing as not being able to afford to support your kids.
Pieces of this story don’t add up. Smh.
CyberShinobi there has to be a lot more to this story...
Well, thank you for convincing me not to have anymore kids .....
Why I am still single with no debt
I went through a situation like this last year. We terminated my now daughter’s biological father’s rights. The guardian ad litem was over $3k and our lawyer cost about $15K. The bio fathers lawyer was court appointed. And kept ordering a continuance. It was frustrating, but it’s worth it. Trust me.
I’d never let my money go to some guy’s ex wife. No thanks. No guy is worth that.
The words you say when you know you made a mistake. My husband's ex-wife.
I once dated a man who had...a 5 year old daughter...who had no discipline...breaking my things on weekends....and so...I stopped. I said adios...bye bye.
Good move!!!! Well done!!!
Good for you. Single dads will waste your life.
Deborah Oconnell 😂
These ex husband marry the new wife to help him with the old wife problems, she should run from this whole problem.
Get a divorce. He can declare bankruptcy. You can live together until after the kids turn 18. Then remarry if you want. Harsh, but likely the better advice than what you were given. These types of marriages are not healthy.
best advice, but need to be carefull, separate quarters, otherwise they will consider you cohabitors.....but you are so right
Only downside to that is he wants his kids and filing bankruptcy will show that hes not financially stable and they give the mother custody
The ex-wife isn't demanding $20,000 the court is ordering them to pay a third party the $20,000 they owe the third party. The ex-wife is irrelevant in this!
Very true. They would be appealing the verdict, not trying to sue the ex or whatever. Atleast the ex is paying the fair share. Billionaire parents and drug addiction or not. She found a way to pay.
Exactly. Why do people think that they can just not pay for their child if they are divorced? You have to pay. Job or no job. If I lose my income, I cant just stop feeding my child.
Finally someone here with common sense, this caller is clueless
Samantha Smiles
The thing is though, courts order Child support way above what is needed.
And most “mothers” do not use the money on the child, but on themselves.
It does not cost 1k a month to care for 1 kid, or even 2.
Its called child support, not support your spouses lifestyle.
Thats Alimony, which I also (mostly) disagree with.
The only exception to Alimony, should be if one parent stayed at home with the child, and the other worked, and supported them, Alimony should only be paid out until all the children are 5 years of age, which then allows the mother to work. It is stupidity that courts make a person pay to the tune of a lifestyle, that is ludicrous.
I could easily feed kids, clothe them, for less than 100$ a week.
The courts always take men for a ride.
Kay this isn’t even about child support. This is about paying for very expensive legal representation for the child (aka guardian ad litum) for a court case the ex has no interest in ending.
The daughter of billionaires was married and had two kids with a guy who doesn't have money? He didn't think he'd be taken to the cleaners and lose the kids eventually here? smh. Sad but we make choices and have to live with them.
Why would he? Whether the ex is a billionaire or a regular person she would still win the divorce.
He probably piggy backed while they were together
I’ve never been married, don’t have children and have not heard of this type of situation. But, it makes one wonder about the legal system. As I’ve often thought, it’s more legal, than moral.
I once heard a quote that says something like “Ethics help us create the law but not enforce it.”
@@eliocosmos I’ve now been in probate, for the past 2 years, with a malignant narcissistic former sister. From my POV, law has just about nothing to do with morality. It’s about what can be gotten away with. And that is with understanding that the law knows, nor cares, about either adversary.
Daily reminder: Don't get married. Don't take on someone with kids. Simple.
I agree 100%.never marry someone with kids.those kids will never accept you especially boys.they will disrespect you if they are teenagers.
If you want to marry find someone without kid or stay single.
Wrong. Don't get divorced.
@@jimroscovius And that's not your call-----hasn't been for some time. Google, "no-fault divorce" and get back to me.
@@soonerdave01 Fix marriages, don't end them.
@@jimroscoviusThere is nothing you can do to fix a marriage, if the other person insists on leaving. Even if you never did anything objectively wrong to cause the marriage to fail, there is nothing you can do to prevent divorce. There is no burden on the plaintiff to prove the respondent culpable of failing the marriage.
Ma’am....no offense, but why did you choose this man? My advice is to run for your life.
I said exactly the same thing. Run for your life baby girl.
xSalamz And it’s telling that her husband isn’t the one on the phone with Dave seeking advice. I hope she wakes up before it’s too late. I’ve seen situations like this before. They never end well.
L V right?!? What is she thinking? Never. Ever.
SBF News And it’s this kind of thinking or lack thereof that can ruin your life, your future, and your finances. Does this young lady sound happy to you? She sounds absolutely distraught and filled with anxiety. I believe in creating my own baggage with a partner who matches and responsibly managing that baggage in an efficient goal oriented way. Not go around and try to play clean up woman to somebody else’s mess. Life is about choices. You can choose unnecessary struggle love and live in somebody else’s misery if you want to. Knock yourself out buddy. My mother who is a bible reading and praying woman always told me to make sure when I choose someone to marry, to make sure we are equally yoked. I would never pick someone with a metric ton of baggage as compared to my 2 pounds of baggage. There ain’t a thing superficial about this approach to choosing a partner. You feel free to choose people using whatever criteria YOU use. If that includes legal cases, 5 kids, a drug addict ex, and mountains of debt......I want you to love your decision? Okay? I like employing common sense and peace in my life too much to ever settle for such chaos. Life is hard enough as it is.
Her husband is probably not allowed to talk about the case openly while his wife is under no such order. Besides she loves this man and I am guessing his kids too, she just wants the stupid court battle to be over even if it means they don't get to spend time with the daughter.
They make $10000 a month and can't afford an attorney? There is more going on here than meets the eye. I don't think private school is an option if you make 120,000 a year and 60% of that is the new wife's income.
Carla Mountenay the private school is mandatory she said
I do find it odd that she is calling and not her husband. There is a bunch of stuff on the husbands side that she is not disclosing or he is not disclosing to her.
I'm wondering if the last caller's husband married her and her $6000 a month to pay off HIS child legal problems?? The ex wife is punishing not only the ex husband but the new wife.
Either the ex is trying to get back at him or hes not telling her everything.
The ex’s parents want the kids.
Her parents are billionaires...? That’s quite a steep statement
How can they not afford a lawyer !!!!!!!
These people who keep saying how can they not afford to hire a lawyer have clearly never hired a lawyer before. At 300 an hour plus retainer of 5 to 10k or more! A couple phone calls, an email or two, and an actual court appearance... bam $10,000
Hire a PI to follow the addict ex around while she cruises to get her fix and take photos. Problem solved.
hire? what part of "we don't any money" does that fall into?
Been there, done that. Trust me and find the money. Spend 3K to save 20K+.
Also, if the mother's family has the kind of the money this lady's talking about, she's not cruising for her stuff, she's getting it delivered. This might be one of those "you can't fight city hall" situations. You gotta know when to cut your losses. Getting an attorney, maybe even a pro bono one, or speaking with the GAL are the best bets.
Cuz god forbid you claim hardship to the Court and they ask for your records and see you hired a PI instead of paying the GAL, your goose is cooked.
This is why I didn't date men with children when I was single.
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This girl wanted a payday and now reality set in. I wouldn’t be surprised if the caller started seeing the dude when he was still married. He owes the money, he needs to pay it. Take a loan and pay it off. She keeps saying “we” but it ain’t. The end.
This is why you don't get involved with single parents...especially if you aren't a single parent.
Exactly
MORAL OF THE STORY:
Never poke a billionaires daughter 🤷♂️
He didn’t poke her he impregnated her twice
Family court should allow juries
Some states do.
Why would you marry someone like that woman? Exactly why I will never marry a man who is divorced. So much baggage.
As you get older there are fewer women who are not divorced.
🙌🏽 I feel the exact same way about women with children, ugh! Way too much baggage!!!!
Never mess with rich people.
Wait ,so this man marries a woman with parents who are billionaires and he is poor making a mere 4000/month?!? If course he will loose either way. He’s done! Woman, please leave this man. Leave him and mind your own business. You do not need this stress Candice! Leave him! And men.. just don’t get married!
Wrong. Don't get divorced.
SoCalDreamer oh my😂😂😂😂😂
maybe thats why he married her....
Jim Roscovius the only way to not get divorced is to not get married
J. B212 but that’s what the Ex wants, she wants him to be miserable because she is miserable! No. Don’t leave, fight the battle, even David killed Goliath
10k a month and can't afford an attorney.....what the heck?
Watch the video and shush answers are there lol
@@kimmyymmikWhat are these answers, pray?
The billionaires are getting their grandchildren.
Exactly.
Why should they have to pay if they're the ones with custody of one of the kids?
Or with 120k income, buckle down and hire a lawyer
How could you think you could go against 3 divorce lawyers and win? They are definitely a good investment when dealing with the worst type of people.
Why hire an attorney when you can just call Dave? 🤔
Best money I ever spent was on a divorce attorney.
Wow ..starting her marriage off with his debt because of another marriage....F**k that, I can do bad on my own.
Geez, what was he thinking getting married again before he got the problems solved with the first🙄🤔
Making $10,000 and you can't afford an attorney?
This is why I was unwilling to marry a man with young children, esp. one who was involved in conflict with ex wife, young children etc...
Most people don't have billionaire exes with a drug problem and issues with co-parenting.
Pretty sure you are still unmarried.
Did she say they couldn't afford a lawyer but was on 10k per month?
Man o man. What a sticky situation. Gotta lawyer up
20k in debt to *prevent* 200k in debt, answer... duh! GET. A. MEAN. LAWYER.
Those numbers are not adding up at all. 8k after paying the guardian and they can't live off that?!
Lawyers using time to force somebody to hire a lawyer and bleed them of their funds, should be something a judge recognizes and puts a stop to it immediately.
Can't win a legal battle against a billionaire, and can't defend yourself without an attorney.
Give them the kid. He will, unfortunately, not last very long and all will be out of their misery or he'll turn out like Mom. How's the girl doing? Ex could care less and her parents failed with her so are trying for a do over. Start your own family. Dad can mourn his first two. Wonder how this came out.
Give up the kids... problem solved.
Omg, why is the husband putting his poor wife through this? Why is she contributing her money towards his custody battle? Men need to make peace with their baggage and not drag it into new marriages. If they want any peace at all and the mother is ruled fit by a judge they should concede to the mom. These are always losing battles and it’s the new wife who suffers...
Their decision to not get a lawyer has cost them dearly. They also need to agree on how far this will go. It may be a losing battle. Sometimes you have to let it go. But get a lawyer first.
how can you not afford an attorney when you have a 10k income?
Harut II Gevorgyan listen to the caller! My lord! People don’t listen
Did I watch a different video from everyone else? The ex-wife, attorneys, and judge are all irrelevant here. The ex paid her court-mandated obligation to the guardian ad litem. It's the husband that's refusing to pay his half and seems thinks his ex should be forced to foot the bill because she has wealthy parents. The judge rightfully struck down that nonsense and reiterated that yes, the husband still needs to pay his agreed-upon half to the guardian ad litem.
Do more than read the video title.
You were watching the correct video.
Dating a person with kids is one thing but marrying someone with kids should be out the question because the kids mother or father can dip there hands in your income legally because of the child support
I don’t date men with messy ex spouse drama. I simply won’t. I realize not everyone is able to have a healthy coparent situation for reasons beyond their control but it’s not a situation I would want to involve myself or my daughter in.
This has nothing to do with the ex wife. The judge always makes the biological parents split the fees of a guardian ad litem. Just because you split up doesn't mean you get to opt our of paying for your child.
Oh my goodness. I see why ppl d9nt wanna get messed up with people with children.
They couldn’t afford NOT having an attorney.
You appeal it and hire a lawyer.
tie it up in appeals as big business does. it's at least some protection of contempt from our unconstitutional family court judges.
Don’t be surprised if the ex pushes for full custody and takes the kids
This is why I don’t date men with kids lol too much baggage
Lawyer up!!!
The ex wife parents goal is to financially destroy them, and they will in short order. Unvortunately this is not a battle they can win.
This is depressing she is a grown adult got herself into a mess and is playing victim..
Hjb Productions how is she playing victim? They are fighting rich people.
Her parents are billionaires? I smell bs
Unfortunately sometimes you have to cry uncle and let it go. Even custody. Or your life will be destroyed.
Attorneys can be money grubbers.
Guardianship can be an abusive curse. Guardians bankrupted my neighbor's mother leaving less than zero to the four kids. The Guardian was appointed because the youngest daughter - a drug addict - moved in with the mom and was spending her money without authorization. This is what the court did - and it was worse.
If people know the ex is an addict, then why is it so difficult to get custody? Find the proof you need and present it to the judge.
A lot of states allow minors to choose which parent they want to live with as long as the child is a certain age. The age is different in each state.
Sounds like you need to Consult with OJ Simpson, not an attorney
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Dave is right, if you don't pay in (have an attorney), you get trampled. Doesn't matter if you are wrong or right.
Before marriage, look up courts of equity and no fault divorce. This is why America is such a mess with marriages now. Better to get married in the Philippines where divorce is illegal.
Why on Earth did you marry this man?
Dang. A lot of bitter people in this thread. It is possible to actually succeed in marriage. Even in a second marriage. Trust me: I am the second wife. There was a lot of drama with the Ex for a while. $4000 a month in child support and alimony for a couple years. But we made it through, and we are thriving on the other side. No reason to not get married, just be wise with who you choose, and how you navigate any messes from a previous life.
Glad to see someone being reasonable here! You give me hope for the future, thank you for this
Zichqec oh my goodness, you’re so welcome! My hope, personally, is in Jesus Christ. Without Him as the solid rock on which I stand, idk if I could have handled the cleanup and healing process. The rest... falls into place. ❤️
I don't care for the tradition of marriage. However, I believe in finding your happy in whatever form works for you. With that being said, I agree. There are a lot of bitter people in this comment section.
Why not just live together and not tie yourself into their debts and problems?
And that is so, so easy for a woman to say in 2018. Thanks to no-fault divorce and our leftist court system, I can be financially cleaned-out (completely) over nothing more than, "I'm not in love with you anymore".
And that's not even taking into account the women who up the ante and claim abuse in an attempt to get criminal charges filed against the husband.
No. Thank you.
The sad part is this lady is getting bled dry for kids that aren't hers. Shouldn't have married this guy and getting unmarried would be a good idea.
Divorce him, it’s a huge mess