Been an Etsy seller for 12 years over 43k sales this is the worst October and November I have had I do not even count pandamedic times because that was a whole other thing. As an Etsy buyer though I find all the pop ups that appear on their website very spammy and off putting. I put some things in my basket the other the day and the basket was then stuck over part of my screen whilst I was trying to browse it annoyed me to the point I deleted the item from my basket in the end just so I could see my whole screen. I can't be the only buyer who is irritated by this layout. To me it makes it look like a less professional platform than it once was and maybe a bit less trustworthy . Some buyers also don't realise it is Etsy doing that and not you the seller.
@@ODNA07079 definitely puts me off. I like to look for all the things I want to buy and do it in one go not be forced to checkout after each item because I can't get if off my screen until I do.
AGREED. I had good sales before and after the pandemic, for nearly 8 years. My fall started July 5th and is still happening. The only thing I can think of is the economy/cost of living has hit everyone. If one is paying rent, there rent has doubled or tripled in the last three years. Groceries are WAYYY up.... everything is WAY UP. Companies are trying to get even more money with new fees, etc. Wages have NOT kept up with all of this for MOST people. It's hitting people like a freight train all at once. I think algorithm changes combined with high cost of living and others having a race to the bottom is the perfect storm for slow- low sales. It's truly scary and the emotional side to all of this is horrible. Every time I cut costs myself, it just gets that much slower and it's as if I never made a cut some where in the first place, that cut I make is just filled with another place wanting more money or even slower sales. Sometimes I think people that own their houses and so forth just do not "get" the full scale of what is going on with cost of living, it is trashing sellers.
@@dexterbaxter4434 Enjoy, cause it can shut off at any given time. lol I just find it weird that in the last 8 years I have consistently hit 3-11K per month. Most months in the 5-7K range. Never any less. July came and less then 2k per month. started like a light switch had been turned off on July5th. What I am sick of is the copyright violations of other stores. There are sellers selling homemade Disney stuff and even put it in their titles....those sellers are raking it in. I used the word "bombpop" one time and learned my lesson. How are these people getting away with that stuff? Jelly, yes..... I am. But a lawsuit is not something I would want to fool around with.
I'm just basing my sales on the sales I've had in Nov. over the last 10 years. It's absurdly low right now. Views are down 52%, sales are down 78%. This is crazy and totally abnormal.
Seller since 2009. During the pandemic I had my first and only $20K month. Etsy is still a good platform, however due to sales being down over 50% in 2024, I am concentrating on marketing my website. Every sale I get on my website is more $ and less fees.
Hi! I have been considering switching to Shopify as well. As an experienced seller what do you suggest for print on demand apparel sellers with a shop of around 600 listings? Are you focusing on more broad variety listings like on Etsy or do you suggest a brand like "limited catalog" approach. Would love some pro tips 😅
I've gotten nailed on Etsy. I just had a great sale today - first big one. Customer used a 10% coupon and when I factored my Etsy Fees in, Profit dropped from $60+ to $23+. Definitely a learning experience on how discounts/fees can destroy your profit margin. Etsy will be used for branding....but focused on Shopify store from now on.
Yeah, if we have to direct traffic to our own store we might as well set Etsy aside and do this for our own website where less fees are involved. What makes me mad is the sales I do get are from a freaking offsite ad even from an existing customer that knows about my shop and they take an additional 12 percent on top of the 12 percent.......yada yada. Repeat customers should not be clicking on offsite ads ..... they also take money from that person for an entire month after clicking on said offsite add. You talk about being screwed.
@@nobleguy37 I guess it’s all a learning experience. Really getting into things has opened my eyes. The hard part is finding something that hits. I’m going pretty hard on my e-commerce site right now to see if I can get some converting traffic. if I can get a sale there, it’s basically cc fees and monthly Shopify fee. Everyone makes it look so easy but it’s not!
People are broke. I have been asking repeat customers that I have had for years. Some people just do not get the full scale of the cost of living for most people. Rent has doubled or tripled in the last 3 years. Groceries are way up. Insurance rates are going way up. If one is well off they simply do not get the full scale of the economic situation America is in right now. Some are just completely blind to it all.
Etsy need to stop messing with sellers viability. Yesterday for example, I had a steady morning with 23 sales up until 5pm. Then between 5pm and midnight I had 2 sales. That isn't organic, is nothing to do with SEO, has nothing to do with buyer behavior and it entirely driven by back of house systems and control. It's peoples livelihoods they're messing with. If Etsy feel there are too many sellers then cap the uptake of new sellers each month to prevent impacting long standing a loyal sellers.
I don't understand why they would do that..... the less money we make the less money they make. My sales have dropped liked 400 percent over the last 8-9 years. People have to be broke for the most part. That's the only explanation.
@@nobleguy37 Too many sellers and not enough buyers. To avoid repetition for the customers they do have they are capping each shop. It doesn't make sense how quickly it stops.
@@charliehamilton5832 Well, it's backfiring. They are not even going to have a site left if they keep doing this. Also people are really hurting financially. I have asked many repeat customers where they have been, etc. Also they need to drop fees if they expect us to drive our own traffic.
Whatever the actual reason for the dip can be up for debate, but as far as my shop goes, I have had ZERO sales since the Algorithm update and my Views have been cut in half! When they said that they’re not propping up the larger shops and throttling back the smaller shops, I’m leaning hard towards that being a lie!
I have a super small, more hobby than business as of yet, Etsy shop that has jumped in sales tremendously this November. Iva had the shop only since 2022, but by far this is my best quarter exponentially.
Started my shop in 2020. I make jewelry. Lots of competition. It's not what I want it to be but I was still getting a lot of views and have a lot of repeat customers then it tanked overnight in October. I already had a certain collection on ebay where I always get seen so I am slowly cross listing on ebay for the rest of my pieces. For example one of my pearl bracelets got seen one time in 30 days on etsy. Same bracelet on ebay was seen 16 times in way less than 30 days. I have to be seen to sell. No views means zero chance of a sale. I was very happy with etsy but they have forced me to list my items elsewhere!
Here’s something you might want to try. I sell beads and jewelry supplies and I’ve had to resort to adding “not plastic” in my title where it can be seen. So basically something like “6mm White Glass (NOT Plastic!) White Pearl Beads”. It’s inelegant but seems to work. I got duped. I bought red “glass” pearl beads from Amazon and they sure felt light for the quantity. Yup. They were plastic. I think there’s a trust issue now with customers not getting what they expected and as you probably know they don’t always reads the description.
@ I stopped selling my handmade lampwork beads on eBay in 2009-ish when I started moving everything over to Etsy. It didn’t seem to be the right “fit” for eBay. Also, the cost of selling on eBay was much higher than on Etsy at the time. There are still handmade sellers on eBay but it isn’t the first place I’d look for handmade. Many people probably feel the same. That being said, if the fees are affordable on eBay it’s just another avenue for selling but maybe to a different audience.
Doesn't all of this skew the data greatly that in turn makes Everbees data on sales and good possible products way off especially if looking at products and shops all started or listed over the last 48 months?
I try to ignore all the noise on here and fb because it's always waaa, waaa, waaa. I think if you have something truly unique, offer great customer service and high quality then sales happen. My sales keep going steadily up. And if something isn't working I work hard to fix it
Doesn't everyone just love when existing customers click on offsite ads. Etsy gets to take additional money from that customer for 30 days. So many reasons to leave this sh't show right now.
June-July for a lot of others. My sales were actually higher in October than July-Sept and NOV. I have been on Etsy since 2016 and have never seen anything like this.
I want to know what dummy thought it would be a good idea to say if you don't get your order on time we'll refund you. I have orders I shipped November 5th that are not delivered. People are tired of seeing temu junk on Etsy. Etsy is going to be known as the place to be given gifts by Etsy. 😂
I don't think it's talked about enough that business is all about adapting to change. Pandemic or not. Just because you have been on a platform for years doesn't mean your sales should be what they were. Or you are somehow deserving of growth. Have you changed and adapted with the platform you are on. Also on the other side Etsy's site layout looks like a beginner highschool web design class went wild.
Seems like a wild assumption that people aren't doing everything they can to counteract the loss of earnings. Nobody is sat at home saying ''oh i'm 50% down, fingers crossed that sorts itself out soon.''
@@charliehamilton5832 no assumption here, just facts I have received from repeat customers. I have burnt myself out trying to fix things. People are going broke.... for real.
well actually mine have increased ahaha, I am currently at 41 sales in November, the highest of the year. (it's my first year btw I joined Etsy in March)
I guess mentioning that Etsy takes 60% of a sellers sale on top of all the fees. Where do I get 60%? I sold one item for $1.00 and only received .40 cents thus they kept 60%. On top of the idea the Etsy isn’t just a handmade items for sale. The platform allows handmade products to be stolen and then made by an another for cheaper and can mass produce. Furthermore, there is no customer service to speak to and they can close your shop on a whim and not even have anyone available to discuss why. I’ll buy off Etsy but selling hand crafted items is a big NO go; it simply not worth it for hand crafters on the most part but it is great for digital and companies who mass produce (if the company didn’t steal a hand crafters work).
@ from what I heard this happened because back way when, sellers would list their items at low prices but charge a large shipping fee to avoid paying listing fees. It was that dishonesty that ended up ruining for the bunch. However, I do agree they should allowed to charge fees on shipping. Instead they should only do that to sellers they catch doing that but apparently that’s too much work for them to monitor because it would require ppl to monitor that issue but no they rather not hire people at all and just punish everyone.
How do people get away with selling copyrighted images on etsy? Like Disney??? I used the word bombpop one time and they freaked out on me....... yet there are 10000s of homemade disney products being sold and the sellers have been on Etsy for years!!! They even use Disney in their titles and keywords!!! Makes me sick!
This comment and replies are way off. I've been a seller for four years in the US. My fees have always totaled around 12% and there's never been a shipping fee. I jack up my prices by about $4 to cover the "free shipping". My shipping is set so that if a customer wants faster shipping they have to pay for it as well
Im australian but honestly the drop is due to Trump and the economic uncertainty he brings. Last time when Biden got in my sales skyrocketed the next day
Etsy is still a great platform. Agree with you 100%. Etsy has made great strides in 2024 moving back to its roots and positioning itself for the future. They are on track in defining themselves for customers, but need to consistently execute. Sellers need to adapt to Etsy's model and business objectives. Sellers need to continually innovate and play within Etsy's rules. If Sellers choose to do things the way they always have, they will be left behind. Thanks for sharing your ideas and opinions.
Been an Etsy seller for 12 years over 43k sales this is the worst October and November I have had I do not even count pandamedic times because that was a whole other thing. As an Etsy buyer though I find all the pop ups that appear on their website very spammy and off putting. I put some things in my basket the other the day and the basket was then stuck over part of my screen whilst I was trying to browse it annoyed me to the point I deleted the item from my basket in the end just so I could see my whole screen. I can't be the only buyer who is irritated by this layout. To me it makes it look like a less professional platform than it once was and maybe a bit less trustworthy . Some buyers also don't realise it is Etsy doing that and not you the seller.
Yes it’s so frustrating! I was finding that cart thing super annoying too
Same here. I deleted it but oddly didn’t think it was perhaps deterring my potential customers. Good point.
@@trishahillegass glad it's not just me it's a super pushy sales technique. Definitely not a fan.
@@ODNA07079 definitely puts me off. I like to look for all the things I want to buy and do it in one go not be forced to checkout after each item because I can't get if off my screen until I do.
Glad it's not just me that dislikes the new cart thing. Super annoying
Explain the difference between September 2024 and November 2024? Huge decrease that has nothing to do with the pandemic
Exactly, this explanation has nothing to do with the decline on sales on November.
Agree, I did see a huge difference from Sept to November also.
AGREED. I had good sales before and after the pandemic, for nearly 8 years. My fall started July 5th and is still happening. The only thing I can think of is the economy/cost of living has hit everyone. If one is paying rent, there rent has doubled or tripled in the last three years. Groceries are WAYYY up.... everything is WAY UP. Companies are trying to get even more money with new fees, etc. Wages have NOT kept up with all of this for MOST people. It's hitting people like a freight train all at once. I think algorithm changes combined with high cost of living and others having a race to the bottom is the perfect storm for slow- low sales. It's truly scary and the emotional side to all of this is horrible. Every time I cut costs myself, it just gets that much slower and it's as if I never made a cut some where in the first place, that cut I make is just filled with another place wanting more money or even slower sales. Sometimes I think people that own their houses and so forth just do not "get" the full scale of what is going on with cost of living, it is trashing sellers.
Depends on your business I guess but my numbers keep going up so I'm not complaining
@@dexterbaxter4434 Enjoy, cause it can shut off at any given time. lol I just find it weird that in the last 8 years I have consistently hit 3-11K per month. Most months in the 5-7K range. Never any less. July came and less then 2k per month. started like a light switch had been turned off on July5th. What I am sick of is the copyright violations of other stores. There are sellers selling homemade Disney stuff and even put it in their titles....those sellers are raking it in. I used the word "bombpop" one time and learned my lesson. How are these people getting away with that stuff? Jelly, yes..... I am. But a lawsuit is not something I would want to fool around with.
I'm just basing my sales on the sales I've had in Nov. over the last 10 years. It's absurdly low right now. Views are down 52%, sales are down 78%. This is crazy and totally abnormal.
Have been Etsy on and off since the early 2000s. This is the worst November I have ever experienced.
Seller since 2009. During the pandemic I had my first and only $20K month. Etsy is still a good platform, however due to sales being down over 50% in 2024, I am concentrating on marketing my website. Every sale I get on my website is more $ and less fees.
Hi! I have been considering switching to Shopify as well. As an experienced seller what do you suggest for print on demand apparel sellers with a shop of around 600 listings? Are you focusing on more broad variety listings like on Etsy or do you suggest a brand like "limited catalog" approach. Would love some pro tips 😅
I've gotten nailed on Etsy. I just had a great sale today - first big one. Customer used a 10% coupon and when I factored my Etsy Fees in, Profit dropped from $60+ to $23+. Definitely a learning experience on how discounts/fees can destroy your profit margin. Etsy will be used for branding....but focused on Shopify store from now on.
Yeah, if we have to direct traffic to our own store we might as well set Etsy aside and do this for our own website where less fees are involved. What makes me mad is the sales I do get are from a freaking offsite ad even from an existing customer that knows about my shop and they take an additional 12 percent on top of the 12 percent.......yada yada. Repeat customers should not be clicking on offsite ads ..... they also take money from that person for an entire month after clicking on said offsite add. You talk about being screwed.
@@nobleguy37 I guess it’s all a learning experience. Really getting into things has opened my eyes. The hard part is finding something that hits. I’m going pretty hard on my e-commerce site right now to see if I can get some converting traffic. if I can get a sale there, it’s basically cc fees and monthly Shopify fee. Everyone makes it look so easy but it’s not!
People are broke. I have been asking repeat customers that I have had for years. Some people just do not get the full scale of the cost of living for most people. Rent has doubled or tripled in the last 3 years. Groceries are way up. Insurance rates are going way up. If one is well off they simply do not get the full scale of the economic situation America is in right now. Some are just completely blind to it all.
Etsy need to stop messing with sellers viability. Yesterday for example, I had a steady morning with 23 sales up until 5pm. Then between 5pm and midnight I had 2 sales. That isn't organic, is nothing to do with SEO, has nothing to do with buyer behavior and it entirely driven by back of house systems and control. It's peoples livelihoods they're messing with. If Etsy feel there are too many sellers then cap the uptake of new sellers each month to prevent impacting long standing a loyal sellers.
I don't understand why they would do that..... the less money we make the less money they make. My sales have dropped liked 400 percent over the last 8-9 years. People have to be broke for the most part. That's the only explanation.
@@nobleguy37 Too many sellers and not enough buyers. To avoid repetition for the customers they do have they are capping each shop. It doesn't make sense how quickly it stops.
@@charliehamilton5832 Well, it's backfiring. They are not even going to have a site left if they keep doing this. Also people are really hurting financially. I have asked many repeat customers where they have been, etc. Also they need to drop fees if they expect us to drive our own traffic.
Whatever the actual reason for the dip can be up for debate, but as far as my shop goes, I have had ZERO sales since the Algorithm update and my Views have been cut in half!
When they said that they’re not propping up the larger shops and throttling back the smaller shops, I’m leaning hard towards that being a lie!
None of this pandemic traffic stuff explains why 60%+ of sellers are reporting traffic and sales tanking since October 1 of this year.
People are broke...... plain and simple.
I have a super small, more hobby than business as of yet, Etsy shop that has jumped in sales tremendously this November. Iva had the shop only since 2022, but by far this is my best quarter exponentially.
Just left Etsy, worst sales ever in 5 years starting in aug, my website is thriving. It’s not me, it’s Etsy
Started my shop in 2020. I make jewelry. Lots of competition. It's not what I want it to be but I was still getting a lot of views and have a lot of repeat customers then it tanked overnight in October. I already had a certain collection on ebay where I always get seen so I am slowly cross listing on ebay for the rest of my pieces. For example one of my pearl bracelets got seen one time in 30 days on etsy. Same bracelet on ebay was seen 16 times in way less than 30 days. I have to be seen to sell. No views means zero chance of a sale. I was very happy with etsy but they have forced me to list my items elsewhere!
Here’s something you might want to try. I sell beads and jewelry supplies and I’ve had to resort to adding “not plastic” in my title where it can be seen. So basically something like “6mm White Glass (NOT Plastic!) White Pearl Beads”. It’s inelegant but seems to work.
I got duped. I bought red “glass” pearl beads from Amazon and they sure felt light for the quantity. Yup. They were plastic.
I think there’s a trust issue now with customers not getting what they expected and as you probably know they don’t always reads the description.
I always thought that ebay was the place to buy mostly cheap books and electronics. Is that not the case anymore?
@ I stopped selling my handmade lampwork beads on eBay in 2009-ish when I started moving everything over to Etsy. It didn’t seem to be the right “fit” for eBay. Also, the cost of selling on eBay was much higher than on Etsy at the time. There are still handmade sellers on eBay but it isn’t the first place I’d look for handmade. Many people probably feel the same. That being said, if the fees are affordable on eBay it’s just another avenue for selling but maybe to a different audience.
Etsy is a joke! You better like paying hundreds a month in ad fees and listings for no sales
My sales have been down 60% since September. The pandemic was 3 years ago.
Doesn't all of this skew the data greatly that in turn makes Everbees data on sales and good possible products way off especially if looking at products and shops all started or listed over the last 48 months?
My sales are up 130% this November over last November 🤷♀
I try to ignore all the noise on here and fb because it's always waaa, waaa, waaa. I think if you have something truly unique, offer great customer service and high quality then sales happen. My sales keep going steadily up. And if something isn't working I work hard to fix it
@@dexterbaxter4434 Exactly! ❤
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Doesn't everyone just love when existing customers click on offsite ads. Etsy gets to take additional money from that customer for 30 days. So many reasons to leave this sh't show right now.
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I heard they are going to start showing other shop's goods INSIDE our listings. Things are getting progressively WORSE.
Where can I find the Etsy seller survey so I can offer some feedback?
63% down
Something happened in October.
June-July for a lot of others. My sales were actually higher in October than July-Sept and NOV. I have been on Etsy since 2016 and have never seen anything like this.
@@nobleguy37 This isn’t the Q4 we’ve been waiting for 💔
@@NeneAlokasBlog No. It's as if Q4 doesn't exist. My sales are slower than any given month during the normal year :( Lord help us all.
@@nobleguy37 May the Lord help us all! We truly need it!
I want to know what dummy thought it would be a good idea to say if you don't get your order on time we'll refund you. I have orders I shipped November 5th that are not delivered. People are tired of seeing temu junk on Etsy. Etsy is going to be known as the place to be given gifts by Etsy. 😂
I don't think it's talked about enough that business is all about adapting to change. Pandemic or not. Just because you have been on a platform for years doesn't mean your sales should be what they were. Or you are somehow deserving of growth. Have you changed and adapted with the platform you are on. Also on the other side Etsy's site layout looks like a beginner highschool web design class went wild.
I have been asking repeat customers and most are telling me they are broke.
Seems like a wild assumption that people aren't doing everything they can to counteract the loss of earnings. Nobody is sat at home saying ''oh i'm 50% down, fingers crossed that sorts itself out soon.''
@@charliehamilton5832 no assumption here, just facts I have received from repeat customers. I have burnt myself out trying to fix things. People are going broke.... for real.
slow traffic for me
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well actually mine have increased ahaha, I am currently at 41 sales in November, the highest of the year. (it's my first year btw I joined Etsy in March)
What are you selling?
@@thebikeracer posters with and without frame and canvas
I am definitely lower this year in sales. 🤫🙄😮
I guess mentioning that Etsy takes 60% of a sellers sale on top of all the fees. Where do I get 60%? I sold one item for $1.00 and only received .40 cents thus they kept 60%. On top of the idea the Etsy isn’t just a handmade items for sale. The platform allows handmade products to be stolen and then made by an another for cheaper and can mass produce. Furthermore, there is no customer service to speak to and they can close your shop on a whim and not even have anyone available to discuss why. I’ll buy off Etsy but selling hand crafted items is a big NO go; it simply not worth it for hand crafters on the most part but it is great for digital and companies who mass produce (if the company didn’t steal a hand crafters work).
Agree
And how do they get to charge us a Shipping Transaction fee when they don't DO ANY SHIPPING FOR US?? This alone should be illegal.
@ from what I heard this happened because back way when, sellers would list their items at low prices but charge a large shipping fee to avoid paying listing fees. It was that dishonesty that ended up ruining for the bunch. However, I do agree they should allowed to charge fees on shipping. Instead they should only do that to sellers they catch doing that but apparently that’s too much work for them to monitor because it would require ppl to monitor that issue but no they rather not hire people at all and just punish everyone.
How do people get away with selling copyrighted images on etsy? Like Disney??? I used the word bombpop one time and they freaked out on me....... yet there are 10000s of homemade disney products being sold and the sellers have been on Etsy for years!!! They even use Disney in their titles and keywords!!! Makes me sick!
This comment and replies are way off. I've been a seller for four years in the US. My fees have always totaled around 12% and there's never been a shipping fee. I jack up my prices by about $4 to cover the "free shipping". My shipping is set so that if a customer wants faster shipping they have to pay for it as well
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Im australian but honestly the drop is due to Trump and the economic uncertainty he brings. Last time when Biden got in my sales skyrocketed the next day
Personally I think etsy is dying.
Etsy is still a great platform. Agree with you 100%. Etsy has made great strides in 2024 moving back to its roots and positioning itself for the future. They are on track in defining themselves for customers, but need to consistently execute. Sellers need to adapt to Etsy's model and business objectives. Sellers need to continually innovate and play within Etsy's rules. If Sellers choose to do things the way they always have, they will be left behind.
Thanks for sharing your ideas and opinions.
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