OMG first! BTW u guy remind me a lot of my brother and I. We both have played lots of shootingbs0orts together and recently got back into airsoft. When I found your channel we both agreed the way you guys run your gear and tactics is very simular to us. We love your videos keep it up!
Excellent video, really insightful comments there! I'll go ahead and add a 7th criteria that changes everything else: protection from dust and rain. When playing in dusty environments, you want to avoid any from getting into your bbs, as that can eventually find its way into your gun and completely ruin accuracy, jam, and even break the thing. Wet bbs will also instantly ruin accuracy, so it's good to have a pouch that can provide a first layer of protection (although I'll go even further and tape the feed lips when playing in heavy rain) Neither of the designs shown provides any protection; even flap pouches leave the bbs exposed, as they have open sides. So when playing in these kinds of scenarios, protection from elements becomes #1 priority. Full-seal pouches (flap pouches with structured flaps that cover the sides too) are the only ones that will make the cut. They can be bulky, slow to drawn and insert, and may be loud if using velcro, but they are the only ones I'd trust for dusty / wet environments.
Keep up the good work, fellas. You might not be one the biggest airsoft channels as of today, but with consistent videos like this one it's only a matter of time.
I really like using flap pouches with velcro for my GBB magazines, with them I can easily carry 8 mags on me on a very small area, the retention is amazing AND my magazines are protected from any kind of dirt. the louder noise of opening them isnt really a issue for me, because when I have to do that... im usually in a firefight already. only issue is storing magazines again when I dont have a dump pouch, so my reloads are a little longer, but for that im planning to put a larger pouch for water bottles on my LBE to store at least 3 mags quickly away. Due to my playstile I generally am ambushing people, there I just put some magazines infront of me and reload from there, so the negatives of flap pouches are not as big.
@@ReconBrothers I even recently found a way to increase the reload speed from flap pouches so much that they rival your typical quick draw pouches for at least half your ammo load, And I made video on it: th-cam.com/video/dxut_NYpD-Y/w-d-xo.html Feel free to check the video out and maybe share this info on your channel as small update. Whith this trick the flap pouch has even less disadvantages compared to others and are actually a viable option for large milsim ops where reloading on spawn isn't possible. Because the only remaining issue will be putting magazines back into the pouch.
This was a beautiful vid little brother. Gear tech has come so far. I would only use the first 2 for any sort of airborne op( yes, I have over 70 night mil jumps, no Hollywood) , the last few for pure cqb type stuff, or range days. Very well articulated. Keep up the great reviews
Personally, I say a mix of different types. I personally run flap top pouches on the front of my plate carrier to keep dirt, sand, water and mud out of my magazines when prone and bungee pouches for the magazines on my sides and battle belt.
Cool! We do use the pouch for Tactical reloads as well before we enter a house for example. So here it would be a problem to use a Velcro pouch. I Instinct
@@ReconBrothers if you had to fight your way to the house they know you're coming plus the sound of GBBR and pyrotechnics the sound of ripping velcro is not an issue :) no such thing as a tactical reload... that's an Americanism, a fad word that they use... it is just a reload under a different situation, you do nothing special nothing different to a normal reload, the only real time you do a "special reload" is when there's a malfunction which is normally operator error..! Never during any weapon handling lesson I received in the Army did any of my instructors call a reload anything else other than a reload... even during a real fire fight did worry about my velcro pouches I used at the time.
What about after you break contact and your team leader has you load a fresh mag, I'm for velcro as well but there are scenarios where you will be changing mags when bullets are not actively flying
Also, I don't recommend Taco style pouches on belt, especially if you got issued (for the professionnal) or play (for airsofters) with body armor type vest (like the CIRAS or the French standart issue SMB - wich is my case), as the plastic can break more or less easely : I used a Templar's gear DFMR (their double fast mag rifle pouch) on my belt on the right side, behind my holster (I shoot rifle lefty but handgun righty), and first shooting session with my body armor on (the SMB), the plastic brokeon the inside mag slot, with no way to repair it. notice that ij your running with your belt only, or with low profile body armor like law enforcement, you have less risk of breaking it because you don't have the vest "pushing down" on the mag pouch
I was fortunate enough to get an R07 Vietnamese AK chest rig from a buddy of mine (it's what their military currently uses). It uses flap pouches more or less, and it works like a charm
Just for the sake of historical statement, some older flap pouches used buttons, or even copper wire single-use hold-tabs. Albeit, the latter of those being more for disposable loose-round bandoliers that came with ammo cans, such as with 303 British and the Lee Enfield. Velcro is not only not silent, it is also a wear item. Eventually, it will just cease to function due to wear, and before that it can get dirty and muck up the hooks or loops. Those bungie pouches seem somewhat obsolete. With grip-retention pouches and holsters being standard nowadays, especially stuff like the ITW Fast MAG where people can and do mount them upside-down, I'd not sure where it would be beneficial to hinder yourself.
Thanks for this video! I ended up getting some Tasmanian Tiger SGL pouches. Thought long and hard between these and HSGI tacos. TT pouches for sure are a lot more affordable than HSGI. Luckily in my line of work I can get either one for the same price but the distributor that carriers them is out of stock so I'll wait till they come back in stock to try them out but until then I'm sure the TT pouches will do just fine.
The TT SGL pouches are really good and I'd say in some way better than theTaco style pouches, since we know the plastic parts can break in some cases. TT pouches don't feature this and are in that way more durable in our eyes. I Viper
I’ve had the best experiences with the plain ol molle backed open top mag pouches with the bungee cords over the top of the mags….. the old fashioned molle basket weave type setup is untouchable. Won’t ever come off your vest like the “tactical” crap they sell these days with the plastic clips that don’t weave through your molle carrier.
Maybe, but we want to be objective on this matter and avoid giving people a personal opinion already that might influence their decisions. This would also create discussions of which is better while the fact is that every one of these is perfect for at least someone his applications. We think people are capable enough to make up their own mind on what's important for them. We just want to guide them in this with this video. I Viper
True, but this was about individual pouches. BTW, Agilite's version isn't the only one out there. Direct Action has a really good version as well that can take M4/AR15, AK, SR style magazines in one design. This is the product: shop.reconbrothers.com/product/direct-action-skeletonized-triple-rifle-flap-in-stock/
It is a Magpul, designed to enable the user to quicker draw the mag. In airsoft it is often also used to prevent gas mags from hitting the ground to hard. Enjoy Airsoft!
i dont recommend buying the voodoo tactical bungee mag pouch cause when i got a fully loaded mag in the pouch it leans outwards due to the molle loops and straps being a bit wonky
Good you share this! Voodoo tactical and some other companies like 101 inc, Mil-Tec, Viper Tactical & Invader Gear are brands with very/pretty low quality standards and are in our opinion & experience better avoided. If it's not some practical issues like you mentioned, it's probably the stitching or the Cordura that will fail rather quickly. I Viper
If you are talking 7.62x39, Taco mags are semi-universal enough to work. 7.62x51/.308 on the otherhand, I agree is a pain. HK91 mag pouches are pretty cheap however, and may suit your needs. Edit: th-cam.com/video/OLgCRRQpXTo/w-d-xo.html Get Taco mags.
Yes, I use the taco style ones myself. As said in the video, they're well retained open top pouches with a smooth draw and insertion. I only needed to put quite some tension on them to get a secure hold. I Viper
Good video, I know this is of topic but we’re did you get your Tm 416 devgru, I’ve been looking for one but I can’t find a website with one of them, if you know the website you bought it from can you link it below :). Love your videos.
We know an instructor that uses a magnet on his belt to temporarily attach a pistol mag. I however don't think it would be very practical for a rifle magazine, since I think that the magnet would require to be too strong for you to pull it off again.
It's an old warrior belt from Tasmanian tiger. Don't think they even make these anymore. But there's probably a newer version these days. You can have a look at tasmaniantiger.info. But be warned, they currently deliver very slowly (months) because of the ongoing Covid measures around the world.
Our shop only displays prices in Euros, but your payment system transfers the money automatically from Euro to Pounds. Normally, before you pay the system will show how much Pounds it will be exactly. I Viper
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OMG first!
BTW u guy remind me a lot of my brother and I. We both have played lots of shootingbs0orts together and recently got back into airsoft. When I found your channel we both agreed the way you guys run your gear and tactics is very simular to us. We love your videos keep it up!
That's awesome to hear, bro! I Viper
I’ve spent hours watching video after video to setup my own plate carrier and this video was the best for the mags. Thank you
🔥🔥🔥
like how this young man concisely introduced each type with calmness. I hope other 2A channel can do more intros like this, but less showmanship.
Haha, fact is we don't even have a 2A since we're from Belgium. But show sells.
@@ReconBrothers maybe I should rephrase it a little, your video had its own style of showmanship so it sells well and ppl buy it.
Excellent video, really insightful comments there! I'll go ahead and add a 7th criteria that changes everything else: protection from dust and rain.
When playing in dusty environments, you want to avoid any from getting into your bbs, as that can eventually find its way into your gun and completely ruin accuracy, jam, and even break the thing. Wet bbs will also instantly ruin accuracy, so it's good to have a pouch that can provide a first layer of protection (although I'll go even further and tape the feed lips when playing in heavy rain)
Neither of the designs shown provides any protection; even flap pouches leave the bbs exposed, as they have open sides.
So when playing in these kinds of scenarios, protection from elements becomes #1 priority. Full-seal pouches (flap pouches with structured flaps that cover the sides too) are the only ones that will make the cut. They can be bulky, slow to drawn and insert, and may be loud if using velcro, but they are the only ones I'd trust for dusty / wet environments.
Thanks! 😊 Good thinking with your 7th criteria. 👌 I Viper
@@ReconBrothers learned that the hard way :p
I use a 5.11 combination pouch with flaps and cord. They allow me to choose to either close with flap or just use the cord depending on the situation.
Good thinking! I Viper
Keep up the good work, fellas. You might not be one the biggest airsoft channels as of today, but with consistent videos like this one it's only a matter of time.
Much appreciated! I Viper
I got myself some HSGI Tacos and they are lit
Thank you bro best video by far helped me get the right mag pouch for my ak set up rig
Thanks for the comment, glad to read it helped you out!
I really like using flap pouches with velcro for my GBB magazines, with them I can easily carry 8 mags on me on a very small area, the retention is amazing AND my magazines are protected from any kind of dirt.
the louder noise of opening them isnt really a issue for me, because when I have to do that... im usually in a firefight already.
only issue is storing magazines again when I dont have a dump pouch, so my reloads are a little longer, but for that im planning to put a larger pouch for water bottles on my LBE to store at least 3 mags quickly away.
Due to my playstile I generally am ambushing people, there I just put some magazines infront of me and reload from there, so the negatives of flap pouches are not as big.
Sounds like a good example why flap mag pouches are not outdated! Nice to see you share your experience on the matter! 👍 | Instinct
@@ReconBrothers I even recently found a way to increase the reload speed from flap pouches so much that they rival your typical quick draw pouches for at least half your ammo load, And I made video on it:
th-cam.com/video/dxut_NYpD-Y/w-d-xo.html
Feel free to check the video out and maybe share this info on your channel as small update.
Whith this trick the flap pouch has even less disadvantages compared to others and are actually a viable option for large milsim ops where reloading on spawn isn't possible.
Because the only remaining issue will be putting magazines back into the pouch.
Good trick indeed! ☝️Definitely a must try for people who use flap mag pouches! 👍 | Instinct
This was a beautiful vid little brother. Gear tech has come so far. I would only use the first 2 for any sort of airborne op( yes, I have over 70 night mil jumps, no Hollywood) , the last few for pure cqb type stuff, or range days. Very well articulated. Keep up the great reviews
Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment! Always nice to get some input from others for more specific usages. I Instinct
Personally, I say a mix of different types. I personally run flap top pouches on the front of my plate carrier to keep dirt, sand, water and mud out of my magazines when prone and bungee pouches for the magazines on my sides and battle belt.
Good thinking!
90% of my gear is Templar... if you're in a fire fight the sound of Velcro is not going to matter, as that is the only time you use your ammo pouch..!
Cool! We do use the pouch for Tactical reloads as well before we enter a house for example. So here it would be a problem to use a Velcro pouch. I Instinct
@@ReconBrothers if you had to fight your way to the house they know you're coming plus the sound of GBBR and pyrotechnics the sound of ripping velcro is not an issue :) no such thing as a tactical reload... that's an Americanism, a fad word that they use... it is just a reload under a different situation, you do nothing special nothing different to a normal reload, the only real time you do a "special reload" is when there's a malfunction which is normally operator error..!
Never during any weapon handling lesson I received in the Army did any of my instructors call a reload anything else other than a reload... even during a real fire fight did worry about my velcro pouches I used at the time.
@@MartinJHarris a tactical reload is when you remove a magazine that hasnt been totally expended and retain the mag instead of discarding it
What about after you break contact and your team leader has you load a fresh mag, I'm for velcro as well but there are scenarios where you will be changing mags when bullets are not actively flying
This was the most straightforward vid I've seen on this subject! Thanks!
Thanks for watching! Yeah we always try to be straightforward when there is a lot of information to share. ;) I Instinct
Also, I don't recommend Taco style pouches on belt, especially if you got issued (for the professionnal) or play (for airsofters) with body armor type vest (like the CIRAS or the French standart issue SMB - wich is my case), as the plastic can break more or less easely : I used a Templar's gear DFMR (their double fast mag rifle pouch) on my belt on the right side, behind my holster (I shoot rifle lefty but handgun righty), and first shooting session with my body armor on (the SMB), the plastic brokeon the inside mag slot, with no way to repair it. notice that ij your running with your belt only, or with low profile body armor like law enforcement, you have less risk of breaking it because you don't have the vest "pushing down" on the mag pouch
Thanks for sharing your experience on the TACO pouches! 👍 | Instinct
I was fortunate enough to get an R07 Vietnamese AK chest rig from a buddy of mine (it's what their military currently uses). It uses flap pouches more or less, and it works like a charm
The most thorough video about mag pouches I've found online. Helped me a lot. Thank you!
You're welcome! Thanks for the comment.
Bro this video was so damn informative. Thanks. I just stumbled upon this while shopping for mag pouches, 👍
Glad to hear it was helpful. 👍 I Viper
Just for the sake of historical statement, some older flap pouches used buttons, or even copper wire single-use hold-tabs. Albeit, the latter of those being more for disposable loose-round bandoliers that came with ammo cans, such as with 303 British and the Lee Enfield.
Velcro is not only not silent, it is also a wear item. Eventually, it will just cease to function due to wear, and before that it can get dirty and muck up the hooks or loops.
Those bungie pouches seem somewhat obsolete. With grip-retention pouches and holsters being standard nowadays, especially stuff like the ITW Fast MAG where people can and do mount them upside-down, I'd not sure where it would be beneficial to hinder yourself.
Thanks for this video! I ended up getting some Tasmanian Tiger SGL pouches. Thought long and hard between these and HSGI tacos. TT pouches for sure are a lot more affordable than HSGI. Luckily in my line of work I can get either one for the same price but the distributor that carriers them is out of stock so I'll wait till they come back in stock to try them out but until then I'm sure the TT pouches will do just fine.
The TT SGL pouches are really good and I'd say in some way better than theTaco style pouches, since we know the plastic parts can break in some cases. TT pouches don't feature this and are in that way more durable in our eyes. I Viper
It might just be me , but if I am grabbing another Magazine noise will not be a factor ....LOL
It is definitely not just you, but is some cases it does apply. ;)
Very useful video, again! Nice work guys :)
Thanks for watching again Timo! 🙏 | Viper
Thanks, I was just looking at what mags to get today!
Glad we could help. I Viper
I always take the bungee cord from my next mag off, after a reload, so that i can acces it faster. Yust wanted to tell you (the reader).
Good tip, might be useful to some of you. I Viper
Yeah well I do t even use the bungees and just put them aaside the mag
I am using the TT fast TACO pouch and its top
Hows retention?
The retention is really good one those, especially the one from the last version (MCL LP) that was seen in the video. I Viper
There should be a number 5. Enviromental impact
Good point! Wish I could still add it, but it's a bit late for that. I Viper
I’ve had the best experiences with the plain ol molle backed open top mag pouches with the bungee cords over the top of the mags….. the old fashioned molle basket weave type setup is untouchable. Won’t ever come off your vest like the “tactical” crap they sell these days with the plastic clips that don’t weave through your molle carrier.
Yup, thanks for sharing your thoughts on this too. 👍
Really like your videos, one of the most videos that will help you out
Glad you think so! Thanks for watching! I Viper
Thank you for the introductory video!
A kind of ratings for every criteria would have been a good conclusion for everyone to evaluate where every type of pouch is the best
Maybe, but we want to be objective on this matter and avoid giving people a personal opinion already that might influence their decisions. This would also create discussions of which is better while the fact is that every one of these is perfect for at least someone his applications. We think people are capable enough to make up their own mind on what's important for them. We just want to guide them in this with this video. I Viper
check out the agilite pincer placard, crazy fast re-indexing
True, but this was about individual pouches. BTW, Agilite's version isn't the only one out there. Direct Action has a really good version as well that can take M4/AR15, AK, SR style magazines in one design. This is the product: shop.reconbrothers.com/product/direct-action-skeletonized-triple-rifle-flap-in-stock/
Am new to Airsoft, what's the plastic???on top of the mag
It is a Magpul, designed to enable the user to quicker draw the mag. In airsoft it is often also used to prevent gas mags from hitting the ground to hard. Enjoy Airsoft!
i dont recommend buying the voodoo tactical bungee mag pouch cause when i got a fully loaded mag in the pouch it leans outwards due to the molle loops and straps being a bit wonky
Good you share this! Voodoo tactical and some other companies like 101 inc, Mil-Tec, Viper Tactical & Invader Gear are brands with very/pretty low quality standards and are in our opinion & experience better avoided. If it's not some practical issues like you mentioned, it's probably the stitching or the Cordura that will fail rather quickly. I Viper
Thanks for the info I almost bought the voodoo pouch
thanks
You're welcome! I Viper
When you have 7.62mm magazines your magazin pouches variations are limited
Jasonth131 NATO or COM BLOC?
If you are talking 7.62x39, Taco mags are semi-universal enough to work. 7.62x51/.308 on the otherhand, I agree is a pain. HK91 mag pouches are pretty cheap however, and may suit your needs.
Edit: th-cam.com/video/OLgCRRQpXTo/w-d-xo.html
Get Taco mags.
Have you used Templar Gear's mag pouches? If so, what are your thoughts on them?
Yes, I use the taco style ones myself. As said in the video, they're well retained open top pouches with a smooth draw and insertion. I only needed to put quite some tension on them to get a secure hold. I Viper
@@ReconBrothers Thanks for he reply. I only asked because I know taco pouches aren't all made the same.
What's the best for polymer mags as to they aren't as slippery/smooth as the metal ones and they aren't the same standard shape
Good video, I know this is of topic but we’re did you get your Tm 416 devgru, I’ve been looking for one but I can’t find a website with one of them, if you know the website you bought it from can you link it below :). Love your videos.
You can have a look at airsoftdoctor.be/ I Viper
Reconbrothers thank you.
What is the brand of the bungee cord mag pouch? I've been looking for one that comes with 2 mag pouches and have found nothing.
It's Tasmanian Tiger. I Viper
What is the brand name of the fox mag carrier shown at 8:05
It's Tasmanian Tiger.
What is the fast mag pouch called? What's the brand to buy?
It's from Tasmanian Tiger.
Waiting for a magnet pouch
We know an instructor that uses a magnet on his belt to temporarily attach a pistol mag. I however don't think it would be very practical for a rifle magazine, since I think that the magnet would require to be too strong for you to pull it off again.
You guys deserve more subs
Thanks! There have been plenty more people saying that already. 😁 I Viper
What kind of magazine do you use mid cap or high cap?
We use low caps (real caps). 😁👍| Instinct
What is your combat belt at 11:47 ?
It's an old warrior belt from Tasmanian tiger. Don't think they even make these anymore. But there's probably a newer version these days. You can have a look at tasmaniantiger.info. But be warned, they currently deliver very slowly (months) because of the ongoing Covid measures around the world.
What’s the name of this pouch with he buckle
www.tasmaniantiger.info/en/product/tt-smoke-pouch/
Esstac kywi
Esstac is indeed a very good choice, but it's quite hard to get in the EU. | Instinct
Reconbrothers lucky for me I live in UK and tacticalkit has them
Is there any way I could pay in pounds on your website? If not it’s all good.
Our shop only displays prices in Euros, but your payment system transfers the money automatically from Euro to Pounds. Normally, before you pay the system will show how much Pounds it will be exactly. I Viper
@@ReconBrothers aaaah ok thank you
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