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- AEG Electrolux Lavamat Turbo Model Number: 16830 combi washer dryer.
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I use a motor like this on my homemade bandsaw.
I use a 55 uf capacitor for motors, and reduce voltage from line to around 110v with a dimmer. (I live in Spain and we have 230v, and with this voltage the motor overheat ). This is a cheap solution. And will give you around 3000-3500 rpm.
There are 5 wires. 2 for the taco, and 3 for the motor. Forget the taco.
One wire to the "line-neutral"
One wire to the capacitor.
One wire to the other contact of the capacitor.
And connect the other "line-neutral" to the capacitor. Depending on the Conector you choose the motor will turn one way or the other.
I have been using it a lot and serve me well.
Thanks for the video. Saludos.
Thanks buddy, how did you choose a 55uf cap? is it just one that seems to work or do you have a way of choosing the value?
@@bootsowen I found on Internet that you need a capacitor of around 70 uf for 1 kw. I made the calculations and choose the nearest capacitor that I could find. And it worked perfectly.
I hope it can help you.
Saludos.
@borjafg6899
I got exactly the same motor and controller. May I know at what voltage that capacitor runs? I can only find 70uf capacitors with more than 500 Volts, what seems to much I think
You can use a VFD - Variable Frequency Drive. There is a video by Photonicinduction about them. It's called "Motor Inverters".
Yes you can because that's all the boards are 3 phase vfds
I wonder if the relay could start/stop it, if you put the right voltage to the board. Seems this board IS what converts the single phase to three phase, so just need to finger out how to turn it on without using the front panel controls.
I wish I'd kept that board, instead of just the motor, from the washer I took apart. I want to make a wood turning lathe.
Jeremy Fielding, a TH-cam'r who teaches how to re-purpose motors (and build shop tools & robotic arms) describes two methods to spin one of these motors -- one of the methods (the preferred way) uses a second motor to condition the power (if I remember that right). Of course, the spendy way is to buy a single-to-three phase converter... I don't have funds for that, but imagine plans exist online to solder up my own...some day, hehe.
I wanted to solve the same problem. I even asked my acquaintances, electricians, but they only laughed at me saying why I was messing with my head. Finally then I disassembled this board for the relay and the rest of the spare parts, but it's a pity of course. After all, imagine how many of these machines are all over the world and everything is in a landfill or buy a Chinese driver for Almost 100 bucks.
It reaches the same speed as universal motor, even though it's quieter, it's used in Beko, Bosch, Gorenje WaveActive, etc, to make induction motors quieter, add a capacitor.
4 pins is rectifier bridge, other are IGBT transistores . Is an 3 fases driver motor
Can someone tell me if these 3 ph motors are delta or star?
did you ever get through with finding out how to signal the motor inverter? i have a motor just like it that im trying to get working, my control board is dead
Maybe you could strap a universal motor to the tub? But maybe you could tinker with the board like you said towards the end where you put some power into the board and try and make it spin from there. Other than that I wouldn’t know it would just fit for the bin
thanks
Hello!!! my name is Wilson, I'm from Brazil, I really like his videos, and I have a motor exactly like this one, how do I connect it to a frequency inverter. can you help me please a connection diagram
search for VFD in my videos
I found that the frequency does not really matter. if you hook up the motor to a 3 phase generator of any type (wire to wire) the motor will spin in conjunction with how much you put through the generator. Even if you spin the gen by hand generating 20 volts, at 30HZ for instance, the washing machine motor will spin in same direction you turn the generator, regardless of frequency because it's an induction motor and 3 phase. The frequency is more essential to single phase. Maybe put a capacitor (like the ones on that board 470v 400uf (as uf is only how much it stores)) to a speed controller that can handle the voltage, and you should be able to get the full speed range you're looking for.
Same with me. Electrolux EWF 14821, the motor driver and the drive motor are the same item. I had replace the driver with a new one, chinese made. .
I used a rc car motor controller on the same motor with only 24 volts. Maybe you can get a higher voltage one. You can get 8s esc which is around 33volts but bit expensive!
This is called a 3 phase inverter motor because of that board :) all that board does is “invert” the voltage (ac to dc or dc to ac)
In other words it’s a vfd but without the variable
Sadly without the control PCB you will not be able to use the inverter module (that’s what’s it’s called) because we don’t know how much voltage enters that PCB and if we put too much (240vac for example it can be good but we don’t know) you can risk fucking up the module and making the motor useless unless you want to waste money on a vfd which are very expensive
Light up the relays with there rated coil inputs, can probably find them on a powered board just need a meter.
I only saw one relay on the board, input is prob 5v or 20v, I can find out,
Would you be able to use something like an Arduino to get it going?
Probably, but I don't know much about that.
i have 5-A and it Run on 120 volt Canada.i ask you on other your video.i took the motor out but put the w/machine out on road. now need how to wire this motor .can you help.
Hi Have you looked at my "how to wire a 3 phase induction motor" video?
@@bootsowen my friend just told me i need speed control..thank you.
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Connect it to the control panel pcb.
explain to me how that would work?
You need a 3 phase VFD to make this motor spin I think.
I can get one, but any idea how to make it go just using the board it has
I'm working on a similar project, I will let you know
What are you planning to do?
@@bootsowen find the input to the control ic and figure out how to vary it, possibly with a potentiometer
7:40 That thing looks like a transformer, but it's likely a Passive PFC inductor.
And no. The capacitor *is not* what does the trick. If you take the capacitor and try to wire it to the motor, you'll have a blown fuse, a popped capacitor and a burnt motor before you can even get half a turn out of the bloody thing.
I can help you out with tracing that PCB. I have a bunch of spare time right now and a passion for electronics. Feel free to ask me for my e-mail if you need help.
Thanks, I appreciate your help, If we do the messages through these comments then everyone else who is interested can see too. I agree with you about using the capacitor on the board. Even if it was big enough it would still give the incorrect frequency. What do you think I should do? I think I can just use the board as it is. It should be already set up to drive this motor. I think it is just a matter of inputs.
Hello guys, I know its maybe late but if you solved this, please let us know. Thank you
Hi
You really don't want to brake it with your kungfu kick
damn! i just buy a motor like that and i realize its 195v with 310hz and then i search how to convert to common 220-240v 50/60hz, and the answer only to buy vfd. and the price of vfd is 10x the price of that 3 phase induction motors, such a waste why they not build in genereal voltage 220-240v like other 3 phase induction motors
Without osciloscope and mesuring the behavior of signals it recives from the board - there is no use
I have an oscilloscope, but to do what you suggest I reckon I would need to get the machine going to see. Is that right?
@@bootsowen
You would have to find a machine with exactly the same controll board, set it to spin cycle, mesure what type, amplitude, frequency of signals on which pins does it recive and then recreate them on your own board
Why so much hassle? If you put the machine in service mode it will spin on the max rpm with the unbalance sensor turned off. Door lock is easy to manipulate by using a screwdriver.
The machine doesn't work.
I have similar 3 phase induction motor ( but 5A rated) taken my old washer. There is usually a service information papers inside the washer and it already has its own VFD. It is called a Motor Control Unit (MCU) that drives this motor. MCU gets some kind of control voltage (Vcc) from the washer Central Control Unit. Found this video of using the MCU controlled by PC or Arduino with DIY serial port adaptor, but searching if there is some simpler way than that - th-cam.com/video/Npxd_H7FeSQ/w-d-xo.html .
Did you find a simple way to use it lol its 2023 lol
@@Palestianoi see we all stuck with the same problem years after, well now those vfds are not that expensive anymore but anyway it would be nice to use the board...
I have very similar "driver" from Elux with exactly the same 4 pins going from the brains to the driver. in my case they are Brown, Pink, Orange and Grey. On the brains side (control panel) Brown goes to the optocoupler CNY17-2 pin #4 (emit). Pink goes to ANOTHER CNY17-2 pin #1. Orange I can only trace it to pin #3 on L1117 33C, which is the driver side. This is unfrortunately as far as I got. From the bit of reading, it seems this driver expects 4-20mA which must be determining its speed(??). Or maybe it wants PWM but again, on what pins??
th-cam.com/video/9ZKrYfIp-Yw/w-d-xo.html
I’m the same. I try to understand these electronics and sometimes I get it. This time I don’t.
Ok..got my 3 ph motor to work today. No electronics besides a 15uF capacitor. My mains is 110v 60hz. Don't know how it would work in UK.
Still have to check what rpm it spins at but looks fast also I know using capacitor makes "fake" 3 phase where amperage is unbalanced so I'll have to check how bad it is.