Our Thoughts Don’t Come From the Mind
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ก.ค. 2024
- Where do thoughts come from? A questioner engages Rupert in a discussion about the consciousness-only model, the origin of thoughts, the nature of the mind and how we can go beyone the limitations of the mind
Rupert explains that in the consciousness only model infinite consciousness is the medium within which literally everything arises. Thoughts may be conditioned from individual experiences that we have like a toothache, by events that take place outside your mind like the coronavirus or your own past conditioning through experiences you had as a child.
The more we explore our experience the more we realize that the self of each of us, is the self of infinite awareness. And at some point the personal thoughts and feelings tend to die down because there is no longer a clearly defined personal self or ego for them to revolve around. The mind expands until it loses its limitations and is recognized to be one with infinite consciousness or, in religious language, with God's presence.
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Timestamps:
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0:00 Where Do Thoughts Come From?
1:38 The Consciousness-Only Model
3:15 Thoughts From Inside Your Mind
4:23 Thoughts From Outside Your Mind
5:14 Your Mind Is Made Of Consciousness
5:37 The Mind Is Porous
7:22 Thoughts From Past Conditioning
7:54 Allowing Consciousness To Shine Through
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Our thoughts are tuned by what we seek, what we love most and where we came from. Much more complicated than we can comprehend. This proves that thought has a type of energy and frequency. This proves that we are born of the Devine. This proves that those born of Father seeks to return to the place of there birth. Much like turtles seeking there place of there birth to reproduce. Like Above like below.
I like the analogy which i got from Eckhart Tolle - My thoughts are the clouds in a blue sky of consciousness- Even when it gets overcast once in a while, i am aware of the blue sky behind the layers....
You are outstanding Rupert
so Love the simplistic ways Rupert explains such difficult concepts to better understand Consciousness and how it works, Thankyou Rupert ❤❤❤ much Love & Gratitude
You are doing an awesome job Robert
I have actually been fully aware during deep meditation, and saw thoughts as they arrived, 🏴 happy healthy peace ✌️
What colour do u see when you close eyes?
@@krishnaprasad1052 when I reached a point where my mantra fell silent , I just instinctively knew I was totally clear of all thoughts, just darkness with a purple hue , bliss, it only lasted maybe 10 seconds, when into my minds eye , flashed a image of my flowers in my garden, and only because I've been practicing lots, I saw it , and passed it bye, I was so happy that I was beginning to develop " my technique" , please give me your thoughts 🏴 happy healthy peace ✌️
Thank you
I once had a deep spititual connect with a friends cat when I lived in their house. It was as if this elderly cat was my soulmate. She always understood when I was worried or sad and we had so many wonderful times and conversations. 😻
aww, meep 🥰
I can relate with your experience with the cat. There is so much we humans refuse to recognize about animals.
Reincarnated soul possibly
that has nothing to do with spirituality and everything to do with evolution.
Very deep😂
Your DNA your skin you’re walking antenna, transmitting, and receivin,🤔🧠⚖️ not all thoughts come from your mind😳 some come from higher beans🥳 and some come from lower beans🥴 what’s your not visible in your light spectrum?🫵🏼 the way the bad keep the good.🥳
Qué bien explicado!
That’s simply brilliant. So clearly described. Thank you, Rupert.
It is beautifully and simply explained. I keep smiling after watching this video…
Beautiful imagery. Thank you both for your sharing!❤
Thank you for this great, yet simple and still elaborate explanation. Well explained - Om Shanthi
Thanks for your Nuggets of Wisdom
The 0 card in the Tarot, Major Arcana is exactly what Rupert described, you are the infinite awareness or consciousness expressing itself. ✌️
Absolutely amazing! And most of the comments here helped enlighten one’s perspective even more. Finding this video by chance was like a messsge or a lesson to me that I only can understand and relate my previous thoughts to. I feel like I’ve already known this but the articulation of such understanding was what I really needed. I’m writing this comment so I can come back to this video and comments again. This helps one understand themselves and the world we’re in. Thank you 🙏
This is a great help. Thank you
The paper an the circle analogy is extremely helpful.
Thoughts are the river of existence, flowing freely and constantly.
Excellent.... thanks 🙏.
Rupert - you've got it. Thank you for your big heart, and sincerity. Much gradetude
Brings the idea, of a Hive Mind into which we all are plugged into.. I mean our interests , gravitate to energy fields,
Potential ... The Company we keep, has always been of importance...because everything interacts on our being, ...
I like Rupert's comment about some minds being more dense than others.
Beautiful❤
I am enlightened, we have a greater mind we are unaware of, I was shown how this can produce thoughts, there are many ways we can experience thoughts, or even no thoughts
Wow! Perfect coherent explanation clearly articulated.
I really don’t like the metaphor of the “expansion of the mind” because it could promote the idea that spiritual liberation comes with the development of mind, thoughts or will.
Spiritual liberation comes with meditation on experiences, reflecting on observations, from which come insights and wisdom. Wisdom lesds to spiritual liberation.
Beautifully explained 🙏🙂
The question "where do thoughts come from" can also be asked as "why do I have some specific thoughts". The origin of thought vs the contents of the thought can create some confusion about thought itself.
If you're thinking about food or about love or about hate or work, etc., the contents of the thoughts are the energetic patterns of one's state of being either as a reflection of who they are at that moment or a belief they hold about themself. Certain thoughts arise from within, as a projection of your state of being so that you can become aware of who you are. You choose whether to act upon your thoughts, because acting on the thoughts reinforces your beliefs about yourself, either agreeing or disagreeing by your acts. Dreams, fantasies, nightmares are also thoughts, but visualized. These are interpretations of the conceptual ideas manifested as imagery through your beliefs. The visual imagery may not accurately represent the idea you are examining, but the beliefs you have translate the energy into the specific forms that you experienced. Mental thoughts are the same thing. They represent some desire or belief about yourself using language. Language is the set of definitions that verbally describe experience, rather than visually.
If you did not have the filter of the mind (the non-physical "space" to experience self awareness) for your beliefs, thoughts would not be a thought because it would simply be direct action. Consciousness or awareness, when localized into a specific perspective (a physical existence), can choose through having thoughts before taking action, because of beliefs. Beliefs are the filter for physical reality. It defines what your thoughts are and what they mean, and it is the mechanism to give freedom of choice, because it is first noticed in the mind. Habit or unconscious acts are thoughts that you may not be aware of, but your body acted upon. So separation of thought and action is one specific mechanism to experience physical reality.
WOW easy to understand, thank you
Awesome❤
Well said
the thoughts are produced by seeing something.
if you see something with really open eyes. it will reflect in thoughts. if you see the world with ignoring eyes the thoughts will subside . and you can control it with the reciting of guru mantra at all times.
it can be ram ram, har hare, allah hu , wah guru etc.
@@jasmeetsingh3156blind people have thoughts so thoughts can not be produced by seeing.
Thought sits on the throne in the mind.Born of time and experience. Jiddu krisnamurti.
awesome explanation
Outstanding explanation by Sri Rupert the Great Master
solipsism still debunks his view
and he is just confirming determnism and hedonism as the source of choices
Solipsism is the philosophical idea that only one's own mind is sure to exist, and anything outside of it, including the external world and other minds, cannot be confirmed with absolute certainty. It's a highly skeptical perspective that questions the nature of reality beyond one's own subjective experience.
Determinism is the philosophical concept that all events, including moral choices, are predetermined and inevitable. In a deterministic worldview, every state of affairs, past, present, and future, is the result of antecedent states and natural laws. This perspective raises questions about free will and the extent to which individuals can truly make independent choices.
Hedonism is a philosophical or ethical theory that suggests pleasure or happiness is the highest good and the ultimate goal of life. It emphasizes the pursuit of pleasure and the avoidance of pain as the guiding principles for decision-making and ethical considerations. There are different variations of hedonism, ranging from psychological hedonism, which claims that individuals always act to maximize their own pleasure, to ethical hedonism, which asserts that pleasure should be the primary criterion for determining the morality of actions.
@@JaySpear solipsism still debunks his view
and he is just confirming determnism and hedonism as the source of choices
Namaste 🙏 💜 ❤️
As a visual learner, I actually drew this out and WOW 😮 this helped so much in another layer of understanding. I was amused at how much it looks like the flower of life symbol. Thank you, Rupert 🙏🏼
Can i see the draw somewhere?
did you hear about daisy of death symbol?
Mike-No I didn’t hear about the daisy of death symbol. Could you explain? Thanks
@@ccvccv5600 The Flower of Life website
Is there a flower life symbol?
I came to see it as there is only one thing and everything else is part of that thing, all connected all the time and yes individualized in all forms, but not disconnected.
Great metaphor. Rupert is great with language and his videos are awesome, Illuminating the path to truth. I clearly understood it. Thank you.
Very succinct and clearly understandable... I will be copying this explanation for sure.
Amazing explanation!!! Wow! So helpful to me!!! Thank you so much for this!!!
This is an awesome conversation. I love the visual of a permeable mind that drinks from universal consciousness and also has individual consciousness. This is very helpful. We all share one ocean of consciousness. We are each just drops of water in the ocean of mind.
Our mind is not in our body, our body is in our mind. It's time to Organize our Intelligence and Optimize the Mind with an Organic Intelligence Language Model.
Lmao
lmao@@Peace2dagawdz
@@iamthematrix-369 shit is so wild
@@Peace2dagawdz interesting time to be alive for sure.
Potentials for experience are carried in the mind😊
Reminds me of people with near Death experiences NDE, when they describe knowing everything all at once.
I didn't sleep for a couple days in the desert then finally got a hold of some NyQuil and when someone tried to wake me up an hour later I became conscious of the dream state I was in and there I knew everything there was to know. Then, still somewhat in that state I put my gear on, grabbed my rifle and ambled through the sand to do guard duty.
After Rupert explained it so clearly, I feel like he drove me out of my mind. ( I may have to sleep on this to sort it all out. )
I’ll be watching this a few times 😮💨
We are the Temple in which God dwells
Wow! What a great example (perforated circles/porous minds)! This is why it’s so important for all of us to do the individual work to ascend to higher consciousness & raise our vibration! Thank you!
I can accept the idea to the extent that the entire universe is deterministic and we are aware of some aspects of it. It seems to me that mind is not a thing but a process of the brain. I tend to agree with Sean Carroll, Robert Sapolsky, Alex O'Conner, and Sabine Hossenfelder that our brains are deterministic and that there is no free will and we become aware of our thoughts rather than will them. Each moment is the direct result of the moment before.
It is more comlex than explained here.
This is really about a growing consciousness that evolves through dimensions.
You have mineral which vibrates slowly. The plants feed off the soil which came from the rock. The animals feed off plants and themselves. Man feeds off everything.
So the higher awarness of man feeds off that which is below.
This is where we have a problem.
The higher dimensions can be seen but it takes time and memory to understan it.
You are asked to go to a house. Outside is you anda higher awareness.
Both are asked to show what is inside the house.
You go in and memorize each room and come back out. This takes time. You are slow because yor mind works in 3d models.
The higher being did not even go into the house physically.
It was instantly aware of each brick, each space confined by bricks and walls etc.
Because we do not understand what we are, we think independently.
We collect thought which is true and false. We choose to keep some ideas and throw others away.
The world fights over these collections depending on what is desired as truth.
Dictators tell people what to believe and the lazy go along with it until life becomes unbearable.
Originally, thought was used to experience lower dimensional thought and this was compared to the source of the thought. If you are a multidimensional being and you wish to look at yourself and understand what you are, you look at a mirror. We are the mirror.
To get an honest view, the mirror was given a seperated awareness. It had a self knowledge.
This is mirrored by your children. You copy yourself and the copy looks to you for information. Here, we allow the child to be seperated and go off to do its own thing.
Originally the child was there to look at the parents and feed back information about what it saw un the parents. Once it had developed enough, its thought would join the parents and become a memory of itself.
So thought was given to the child who would reflect on it. It would run thought through itself like a day dream. All possible scenarios and outcomes would be investigated while the parents watched the thoughts evolve.
The parents saw their thought honestly investigated.
We are that thought that lives and dies and saved as memory.
Here at the moment, we are trapped in the self absorbed investigation. We are not investigating the patent source but are trapped into investigating the self.
The dream took over.
The parents are fully aware and try to influence the dream so that the childs focus returns to the parents instead of arguing internally.
All thought is remembered in the parents. This means that all memory can be used to build up a picture of the parents even with the childs mind distracted by itself thought.
Explained it so beautifully thank you Rupert. 🙏🏻🌈
Thank you Jesus for the Bible and for commandments. Thank you for giving us prayer. We pray to survive.
the force that beats my heart that keeps all d things in order inside d body is d same source from where my thoughts r also given
I think the key is to eat clean so your body isn’t heavy, correct your negative thinking when it arises, learn emotional maturity by self reflecting on your actions and responses, move the body (eg walking but also moving your arms in big circular motion, shake the legs. Movement will shift stagnant energy), but most importantly, notice when your heart chakra is open, and once you feel that softness in that area, just sit with it, just feel it. It can be the thought of someone you adore that triggers this, or a puppy, or a memory. Doesn’t matter what triggers the heart chakra (it can’t be a sad thought though) but once you get the feeling try and shift your focus to the FEELING rather than the thought eg that sweet adorable puppy. Sit in this feeling. Do this practice as often as possible.
God is Love, so sooner or later the mind will follow surely? Hence we should be able to reach higher consciousness this way!
I say this about the heart chakra because I had a mystical experience once and I wasn’t even trying. I just happened to be thinking of someone I adored while DRIVING and I slipped/shifted into this feeling of complete serenity. Everything ‘just is’, no wrong or right. But it was a FEELING not a state of mind. I think it helped I was in a relaxed mood anyway, I didn’t have any worries bothering me. I’ve not actively tried to regenerate this feeling but perhaps I will take my own advice from above and see how I go…
Yes, that is Bliss.
Very nicely worded. The question is what we mean by 'consciousness'. As the universal basis of everything, mass, energy, time and space, I cannot comprehend it. I also do not believe that that is true, that electrons and protons, atoms and molecules, mass and energy, including their interactions, stars and their planets and the infinity of galaxies are consciousness, because all of this is said to have consciousness as a basis. I think (yes, I know my thinking is limited and it's not even my thinking :) ) that these are all just assumptions. Rather, I believe that 'our' consciousness is something that manifests itself in life, and not in 'dead' mass and energy. I don't know what the basis of 'everything' is, but I don't want to call it consciousness without precisely stating what we mean by the concept of 'consciousness.
Perhaps you should The Bicameral Mind by Julian Jaynes, he had similar ideas to yours.
@@threestars2164 English is not my native language, so it is difficult to understand exactly. But I, like Rupert, have studied almost all spiritual and philosophical traditions in a practical way, including my own thinking, feeling and actions. I prefer to approach it as Ramana dad did: there comes a moment to be silent and not to lose yourself in ideas about the universe, time, space and consciousness as the basis of it all. Socrates also pointed this out when he was asked about what there is after death: "The wise are not concerned about that."
I actually did that drawing and draw arrows around the circles meaning our projection on the others . Then a second drawing with arrows pointing inwards that is the creation of egos by taking information ( others projections) and making it ours.
Thoughts appear. We can not chose our thoughts, for in that case we would have to know our thoughts befóre they appear and then say hmmm i'm gonna think that thought and not that thought. Even this thought appeared because of the video appeared and coming into my attention which i did not chose neither ! So this means we are totally free of thoughts 😮 like the ocean is totally free of waves.😊
I was touched to hear you include animals in your description of consciousness….I hope 🙏🏼 one day one will include insects too ….they are intelligent and aware 😊
wait until we realize everything is consciousness..sitting somewhere on the spectrum of The All That Is
When the sheep wake up from the spell, he probably will.
@@delublink127 Get back to me when a rock tells you about its day.
There are those who claim to have access to communication with static consciousness like rocks.
Maybe one day it'll grow common, even in the sense of an Omniverse or evolution. Or "junk" DNA activation/use.
Everything alive is conscious , animals plants just everything , life is conscious itself
Life is not from when we are born to when we die, that is the time we have with our life. Life comes with every breath, this is real. The more we are caught up wondering about thought, the more we are thinking. Truth is within, but we must not try to pull it out, only when we are still will it be revealed naturaly. Try not to have ideas about what to feel, your heart will know soon enough when it feels the truth. It is there every moment, we have to learn to listen to it, an experience, rather than a thought. Be still and know thyself.
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What are we trying to reveal?
Thoughts come from your environment and interactions
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In self realisation, consciousness, one is then free to experience infinite consciousness awareness, in the practices of breath Meditation with sound of silence (Singing Bowls and voice of a Guru) Dharana then arriving in Breath Meditation, as realised by the Buddha and Patanjali, Krishna to Arjuna, the body dissolves and the mind dissolve as we are not our thoughts, on pure conscious awareness, one only experiences through conscious awareness. So we are only the observer of experience coming in from external input.
The mind is a receiver that processes thoughts;
They are a download:
Occasionally, a divine thought from the Holy Spirit comes through but mainly, most thoughts are just our ego generating the thoughts running through our mind on an endless conveyer-belt. As such, be the observer of your thoughts, and realize that they do not mean anything. In fact, we give our thoughts all the meaning they have for us. No one else is experiencing the same thing or thinking the same way. Observe the thoughts and know that they are not even real and that they really have no meaning. Instead of trying to figure out your thoughts, ask for the Holy Spirit’s thoughts to fill your mind, which indeed are from God and are your real thoughts but your noisy ego thoughts drown them out, ask for God’s thoughts to fill your mind. You will have thoughts of love, compassion, peace and forgiveness.
Really ? How f..cked up is that ?
Thank you for this comment. It really helped me. God bless!
lol maybe it is easy for you but it is not possible for everyone.. Even believing in invasible entity called god also I heard truth exists beyond good, bad even God so yeah it sounds very useless to me
a course in miracles is nice
This is an ongoing concern for me. Glad I ran into this video. It messes with my mind if i let it.
That is inquiry. When we are unclear it may take time to verbalize
Thoughts are unreal as the interpretations or references they claim to be, and real as energy apparitions or light formations within the total field. As interpretations believed, thoughts seem to hide their context and cause suffering, but as plays of conscious light, thoughts reveal their source clearly and promote celebration.
I'm not a funny person. But suddenly I will think of something so funny I start laughing. And I don't know where it comes from. I just feel that it's coming from someplace else, besides in my brain.
We've been here before. Thought needs remembering. So my old advice is to remember your living now & not in the past.
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The mind is also fed info from the organs through circulation and nerves ,they must play some part as well as outside stimulus for creating 🤔
The occurance of the corona virus happens outside us, but the awareness of it, perception of it, our understanding of it, the witnessing of it, the hearing about it, the entire experience of it occurs within us and within our mind.
the dotted circle analog can be really insightful to contemplate: tread light, hold loose, merge and BE the circle that has no centre (ego): infinity,..yet compassionate since once, you were also lost
This way of looking at consciousness is similar to our shadow ( archetypes). Gold ( good or bad) As every experience of our outer world is experienced inside us, it is us. Healing our shadow starts removing our lined circle.
Of course this is a double edged sword as most peoples problems stem from confusion of where they end and the other begins. It’s a paradox.
Our evolutionary survival ability to construct our inner maps has come at a price.
I suppose dismantling our dysfunctional maps can lead us to the universal consciousness.
Thoughts derive in the heart and are translated by the mind into language. I am my mind, heart and soul working in simultaneous union. So technically I do create my thoughts. Most people usually identify as awareness alone because their identity is a felt distinction of control. I run, jump, plan, eat, drive... but is it I who performs cell mitosis? I cannot close my eyes and suddenly have the ability to control my cells and the knowledge of what to do and not. The distinction between conscious tasks and unconscious tasks is awarenesses ability to manipulate or at least the sensation of manipulation. In my opinion this is a continuous system where identity is circular. This is rooted in my religious beliefs of being made in the image of a triune God who is distinct in Father, Son, Holy Spirit but one in being.
have you experienced or bore witness to the At-one-ment?
Thoughts do come from the mind... Whatever you are used to think and past activities and thoughts are like waves extending and creating new waves...the mind is always on autopilot mode... Which we call chattering of the mind...
If we re not careful we can be victim of our own mind..
There is only the one mind which we all share. Self responsibility requires us to be aware of our actions through our thoughts. What was said takes away the first gift given to us of infinite freedom. Holy karma arrives when the self surrenders into the simplicity of oneness. At this point the holy spirit act through you willingly. You become god itself but your experiences will be individualized.
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The principle of mentalism. The first of the 7 Hermetic Principles asserts that all is mind; the universe is mental. For anything to exist, a thought had to first exist, which then formed a physical reality or manifestation.
As God yourself,the questioning of any is doubt in yourself,imagine whatever was is still itself on your watch
They came from the Brain! Intrusive thoughts came from Cingula❤
Could you elaborate? I have often dealt with intrusive thoughts and wondered where the heck they have come from.
Our thoughts come from the subconscious mind.
I have always thought of my own consciousness as being similar to a single leaf on a single cosmic tree bathed in sunlight. There are leaves all around me and each of them perceive and react just like I do. But when leaves die the tree continues to produce new leaves. There is only the tree and sunlight. It is the tree that is conscious, but the leaves only feel this consciousness as their own. When I look at other people I see different faces and shapes, and when I talk to others I see different personal histories being spoken about in a unique way but I also see that we are all the very same. Our bodies are just temporary appendages to a single source of consciousness. So, in essence, I am everyone all at once, but I can only see my own unique history.
I do not believe there is, or are, any gods, but I can 100% say that the universe is definitely conscious because I know that at least one point in it is where I exist, in the sun, for now.
Where are my thoughts coming from?
I had a thought (haha). Our thoughts come from the Akashic Records. Which is our DNA. Which is collective consciousness. We are merely drawing in information that is already ours. However, we (in having that thought) are evolving. Because it's the first time we had that thought in our individual circumstance. So it is a circumstance that we haven't experienced before. it is "uncharted waters". So therefore we all continue to add to the Akashic Record (our collective consciousness).
So, if you have a toothache, this may not be an individual experience. Someone else can tell there's something amiss with you, even if you don't tell them specifically you have a toothache.
Yup. Matt Kahn speaks of this.
We have thoughts because we live in a Word-Matrix. First reality is Nature/ vibrating consciousness, feelings, second realty is all stuff that humans create in the Word-Matrix.
Thoughts are infinitely non rised and non generated, they are dependant of causes and mind are its condition. Experience a thought is Counsciousness. We are ultimately not thoughts, not mind, not counsciousness but Tataghatagarbha
To me, using a model of "consciousness only" works better than "matter only" because "matter only" seems to invariably involve some form of convolution to try and either get out or explain away why we aren't "really" seeing (which sounds to me epistemically dubious) qualia. But from consciousness as primary, with _matter_ the derived effect, it's very simple: all _perceptions of matter_ are just that - _perceptions_ - made of qualia, thus accountable via consciousness! The way you get "physics" is that "physics" _emerges_ from essentially different consciousnesses "negotiating" a shared environment, well below the level of our material brain. It is self-organization / spontaneous order formation at a metaphysical level. We thus can start from "pure, free will" then imagine it becoming constrained by agreements that are formed spontaneously, which is much more satisfying than just saying "well this rather weirdly particular set of physical laws 'just happened to exist' because well 'just because'", at least to me.
this place runs backwards ... the "down there" determines what is "being organized" now. OOO.
Thoughts are Fluid, Just like Water and air. Ripples in the pond.
No brain ~ No mind
No mind ~ No thought
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Consciousness living a mind wake by egobeing and worldbeing itself. Exclusively a consciousness activity .
Oh dear!
“If you want to know the secrets of the Universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.“
- Nikola Tesla
If you are not using your mind "in active thinking" you do not create "thoughts". If it is not a result of active thinking it is automatic like our breathing. You cannot stop breath for a long time. At the end you have to take a breath in. Some thoughts are like that I call them "associative thoughts" . It is not right to call them "thoughts". Because they are different than thoughts. Thinking requires deliberate active concentration. Associative thoughts does not have any deliberations. They appear and disappearwith no rhyme and reason just like in dreams. It is very important to understand the difference between "associative automated thoughts" and "real thoughts that are the result of active thinking."
How do I know I need to call a dentist? Something must have told me a dentist pulls teeth. You can go very deep with this.
If we accept that the original fundamental force led to the emergence of a conscious mind, as all logic dictates, then there is a possibility that we could eventually tap into that collective mind and here I quote Nicola Tesla who said "Everything is frequencey". So maybe we can use frequencies as a tool to gain advance as frequency is, that seems to connect that fundamental force and the collective mind. As I've mentioned in my previous post, we musn't make the mistake to think that this collective mind is only pertinent to our planet. Their assumption, therefore not complete, as they should draw an infinite number of circles like the one they regard as the collective mind. So all living creatures on Planet Earth represent just one of many such minds that is part of a much bigger collective mind.
As I was reading this an experience popped up in the head of my body and everything around me emitting a frequency then becoming just the frequency and it sounded like whale song
It's like water. Made of countless drops
More important than where or why or how thoughts are generated is to know they are essentially meaningless in the grand scheme of life. They are generally unnecessary. The ego uses thoughts to manipulate your beliefs and actions. For most people, their thoughts are like shady salesmen trying to capture your energy and attention. I know it is tempting to try and understand why they are so negative or what they mean, but that is another trap. I don't think it is really necessary to psychoanalyze your thoughts or try to determine their origin. I think a better use of time is to simply witness them as they pass without judgment or reaction. You don't need a stream of thoughts to know to call the dentist when you get a toothache. So even in that example, thoughts are not really helpful. Maybe 1 out of 100 of my thoughts are actually neutral helpful thoughts. The other 99 cause me to have distress/worry/fear/anger/anxiety, but only if I believe them or show interest in them.
but the thoughts that cause distress are there because you are in distress and fear etc. so it's rather impossible to ignore them when they occur like you cant ignore the toothache when it is happening. but you can take care of your teeth to prevent pain like you can take care of your mind so that no distress or fear is taking place.
@@actionaccount8307 I agree with that. It is important to take care of your mind with love and kindness. But not with more mental analysis. You can't fix your mind with more mind. Sitting still in silence and witnessing your mind with nonjudgment to allow your mind to empty itself is a good practice. Choosing to not overload your mind with tasks all of the time is probably useful. Take your foot off the mental gas pedal. But overall, there is not a lot you can "do" to "fix" your mind. Reacting to the mind or analyzing the mind just makes the mind stronger.
So if there is an infinite consciousness that we are all linked too, and is in a state of perpetual awareness. Then how come when people are under anesthetic all they experience is a black out and then a waking up. Surely a persistent awareness operating beyond the physical would recall at least some memory of events that transpired. Speaking from my own experience under anesthetic, i experienced nothing at all in the state between. Also the vast majority of near death and sudden death syndrome experiences also recall absolutely nothing apart from black out and waking. It seems that if the hardware of our brain and nervous system is compromised then so too is our consciousness. All of this points to the needed necessity of functional physicality to enable perception and awareness.
@cyberdude1310. You speak with honesty. No room for honesty when it comes to religious or spiritual ideologies. Under religious or spiritual ideologies, all magnitudes of insanities and madnesses get a free pass. Just as lies and deceptions make a much more interesting plot for a movie, self ignorance and self dishonesty lure many more into the theater of self deception.
It is much more interesting to hear a man claming to have flown to out of space, on a unicorn with 5 horns, to have a meeting with God, to bring important messages for humanity, than, to hear a man saying " I really don't know ".
One can never be too careful when it comes to the Absolute True Nature of oneself or Existence as Is in Itself.
Maybe you are an extra..like the characters in a video game that don't have a player on the other end...and the others who experience NDE are the real souls..perhaps you and many of us are soulless
@@venusoflatassimus3584 It's so easy to repeat what others put there, mistaking it as one's own. Finding one's voice isn't easy as it sounds. It's always easier and safer to quote from some "holy" scriptures, from some "certified " saints, sages or even from some renowned poets .
So easy to lose one's own voice, to be only left with the voices of others inside.
I was always very curious about life and everything ever since I was very little. I had numerous obes ,when I was little. It just occurred naturally by itself. I was too young to understand or analyze. I lucid dream all dreams. My very first all in meditation into the nature of Existence, began when I was in college. And, that was well over 25 years ago.
Most people get helplessly dictated in their dreams. Only because, they're really not aware of what is really taking place in the psyche.
We all have deeply embedded impressions and tendencies, deep in the psyche, but, many of us are not aware of the fact, that, the direction of their search for Truth gets to be decided or already decided by these impressions and tendencies.
Dreams, obes, and ndes are very important in the sense, that, it reveals the impressions and the tendencies that are deeply buried in the psyche.
Consciousness is nothing other than the Psyche of Existence Itself.
It's better to understand what the thing or Existence is not as much as one can ,than, to get caught in defining what the thing or Existence Is in Itself.
Usually, almost, all religious or spiritual ideologies get their births, by those who have a strong tendency, to just claim to know things, when they don't really know.
In that sense, they're born of ignorance and dishonesty, which are two main forms of self deception. And, they're totally unaware of these tendencies in the psyche. Very common in religion and spirituality circles.
One can never be too careful,if ,it concerns the Absolute True Nature of oneself and Existence as Is in Itself.
That was my question a while ago and I thought about it for a long time. Consciousness is suspended for a short period of time but that is only the consciousness we perceive. The body is still conscious otherwise all organs would stop working.
There is no mind to form memories during anesthesia (same as in deep sleep), hence why you “awake” with no memory of time passed or what happened. But your fundamental awareness of being IS still present under anesthesia and in deep sleep, hence why your body still functions and you aren’t dead
If thoughts don't come from the mind , what do you think with ? 😮😮😮
Certainly they are harmonics of the morphic field or Akash
You cannot suffer a thought, you cannot change a mind....