Students DITCHING Ivy Leagues; Choosing 'MOVIESQUE' College Experience Offered At State Schools

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  • Jessica Burbank and Amber Duke weigh in on a report that students are opting out of applying to elite-level colleges. #university #eliteschool Originally aired April 26, 2024.
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  • @chillonfunsmart4929
    @chillonfunsmart4929 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +55

    When I hear someone is Harvard educated, my mind immediately goes to "elitist indoctrination camp"

  • @kevingonzalez9648
    @kevingonzalez9648 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +78

    They should make a reality show where a bunch of privileged, Ivy League students work a bunch a trade jobs. Call it: The Simple Life

    • @glennross85
      @glennross85 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Cringe.

    • @Direkin
      @Direkin 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That would actually be quite amusing.

    • @michaelwaller7365
      @michaelwaller7365 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Rodney Dangerfield "buying" the rich people, then having them work construction in "Caddy Shack 2".

    • @nickmcclellan9623
      @nickmcclellan9623 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They would all be from Cornell and could do it. Show fails.

    • @michaelwaller7365
      @michaelwaller7365 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Rodney Dangerfield did something like that in "Caddy Shack 2".

  • @lhw.iAviation
    @lhw.iAviation 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +30

    When employers started seeing a Harvard degree as a red flag 😂

    • @NoToobForYou
      @NoToobForYou 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      With a rainbow-colored hammer and sickle superimposed...

  • @YonieZukowsky51
    @YonieZukowsky51 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +37

    The Ivy became poison Ivy and parents love their children.

  • @imafreakinninja12
    @imafreakinninja12 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +46

    Why not just get rid of classes that have nothing to do with your major?

    • @Amber-xp6se
      @Amber-xp6se 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      We already have that. Trade schools/programs.

    • @imafreakinninja12
      @imafreakinninja12 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Amber-xp6se Ya but if you want to study something useful like engineering, you're gonna have to take some women studies courses nowadays. Plus a lot of trade schools teach you things you don't need. Look up what Milton Friedman said about licenses.

    • @joelwillems4081
      @joelwillems4081 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@imafreakinninja12 No. You do take English for engineering, drafting, Fortran 77, biochem, calculus I and Introduction to Engineering. And that was just Freshman Semester I. Then I switched to a Liberal Arts college and had to take loads of non-major courses the first two years. You can sort of finagle them but you are still stick doing that. I mean, a well-rounded education is one thing but I could have passed the math, science or arts finals the first day I showed up. I had that stuff in Grade School and High School and paid attention. Now I'm paying top dollar to wealthy profs and admins for remedial work.

    • @privacyfig
      @privacyfig 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@imafreakinninja12 how can one learn something useful like engineering from people who have never done real engineering in their lives?
      That's really the problem I have with this idea popular, especially on the right, that colleges have to provide "hands-on" education that is useful for real jobs. No, that's what trade schools are for. Academia is for academic subjects. Academia has to teach young people how to think, second order reasoning. Unfortunately, today, the overwhelming majority of higher education institutions do horrible jobs at both: teaching hands-on skills (which they shouldn't be doing to begin with) and teaching a proper classical liberal curriculum (which is what they should be teaching).

  • @MadsterV
    @MadsterV 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

    College education does not scale. We're on the verge of a big shift.

    • @ruthhorowitz7625
      @ruthhorowitz7625 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Sometimes it does, just stay away from liberal arts, and definitely avoid anything with the word studies in it.

  • @newpilgrim
    @newpilgrim 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +75

    As a long-time community college educator....man, I love this message! I went to community college, and it's free in my state....what are you waiting for?

    • @carolyna.869
      @carolyna.869 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Community College is incredibly easy and not challenging for high IQ people. Everyone should have their place in the world.

    • @kerikah
      @kerikah 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      Community college is not necessarily easier.

    • @jaxx-ld2bu
      @jaxx-ld2bu 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      You're a wise person!👑 Education should be FREE!🎓 That other stuff is a scam!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @newpilgrim
      @newpilgrim 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      @@carolyna.869 Careful, your elitism is showing.

    • @hurryandleave9680
      @hurryandleave9680 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

      @@carolyna.869 Community college credits in California can be transferred to Berkeley, UCLA and other UC campuses. The courses even have the same names.

  • @sandrad9695
    @sandrad9695 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    “That’s my Ivy League education.” 😂😂😂 I learned statistics at a junior college.

  • @TheGreatSatan_
    @TheGreatSatan_ 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    A degree is a degree. Both of my daughters graduated with no debt. Why? Just normal small colleges that uses the same paper for their degrees as any other Ivy league school

    • @annoneal665
      @annoneal665 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      No, they are not. They do not all have the same academic rigor. Everyone may get a degree, but they don't get the same education. High school is the same way. Unfortunately, everyone can't get in or afford great schools. The real problem is the cost is to darn high!

  • @byronhotchkiss3254
    @byronhotchkiss3254 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    The reason why there are some many CEOs is that the rich and privileged are dramatically overrepresented. Most CEOs now get there through connections.

    • @ismaelramirez4803
      @ismaelramirez4803 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thats actually not true, most ceos arrive and are driven out of their positions organically. The reason being that you cannot just appoint someone whose in charge of billions of dollars in assets. You need to demonstrate you’re going to be profitable and that is not easy. Nice try though

    • @chrisj5505
      @chrisj5505 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@ismaelramirez4803Or you sabotage the guy above you and impress the board of directors with charisma and speaking skills. You could know very little but if you sound like you know a lot and sound confident in it then people dance to your drum

    • @lucillejerome5511
      @lucillejerome5511 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@chrisj5505 Narcissists are very good at that.

  • @douginorlando6260
    @douginorlando6260 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    The jab proved to be very detrimental. People don’t want to think about it but the consequences are long term, widespread, and hidden

  • @takamex
    @takamex 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    Learning to put on a terrorist scarf and screaming from a tent in the library is not the experience young people nor their parents want to invest on!

  • @medhue
    @medhue 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    How many of those Ivy League CEOs actually created those businesses? My bet is none of them, meaning they didn't really earn the position. The next question would be, how many of those CEOs actually grew or benefited the companies in some substantial way, not related to just stock values going up?

    • @DevoteeCT
      @DevoteeCT 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Those that create businesses are called 'Founders'. And as far as "earning" the top position at a Fortune 500 or Fortune 1000 company, they certainly did. One doesn't just graduate from an MBA program and become a CEO, it takes years and years in lower-level management.

    • @medhue
      @medhue 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@DevoteeCT Show me the proof. I have yet to see a CEO that didn't start the business understand anything about the business at all. It all becomes who can get the stock price up, which has little or nothing to do with actually growing the business, leading to them getting big raises, but the company floundering in the following years. This notion that managers that know nothing about the products can actually do a good job is a commy wetdream, that never works out.

    • @DevoteeCT
      @DevoteeCT 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@medhue Regarding the CEO's responsibility to the shareholders, one has to know the company's business and marketplace to generate future revenue, which is the key driver of a company's share price.

    • @karmaandkerosene2885
      @karmaandkerosene2885 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This would be called "poor people's thinking."

  • @rickmartin9420
    @rickmartin9420 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +80

    The most important skill in becoming a CEO is BSing. That's why psychopathy is over represented in that position. Those who are best at BSing the board get the job. Remember, the board is always filled with Ivy-league educated narcissistic rich kids who are themselves elected by Ivy-league educated narcissistic rich kid shareholders.

    • @skontheroad
      @skontheroad 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Didn't get into an Ivy, huh?

    • @gooser__43
      @gooser__43 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Not shareholders, fund managers using working families' retirement money.

    • @drkarenswrld
      @drkarenswrld 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      I have a PhD, 2 Master’s and a BA from Research 1 universities. I agree with this op

    • @scratchpenny
      @scratchpenny 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@skontheroad No, it's not just jealousy. These graduates from such schools are not leading the country in the right direction, and many aren't even competent at their jobs. If these are the societal outcomes with those people in charge, then either an Ivy League education is severely overrated, or they are being taught to be immoral crooks.

    • @StimParavane
      @StimParavane 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Why would you want to be a CEO? 70-hour weeks for decades, and for what?

  • @whatevergoesforme5129
    @whatevergoesforme5129 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Well, those CEOs came from families with connections. It is not just because they graduated from IVY LEAGUE universities (that also operate on networking if you look at the families involved in those universities). In life, it is usually about your connections because there is no such thing as a self-made person. One does not live in a vacuum.

    • @noelvoss6744
      @noelvoss6744 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That's very much not true, I know several business owners that are self made, they work their butts off. Connections absolutely can help, but it's not the only thing. Statistically speaking a person's ability to persevere is the greatest marker of success in life.

    • @whatevergoesforme5129
      @whatevergoesforme5129 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@noelvoss6744 Well, I will surmise that those Ivy League CEOS referred to in this video also know how to persevere, at least some of them. They may have the connections but I am not accusing them of being lazy bums.
      As to the word "self-made," I used to believe that word until I realize no one can be truly self-made because no one can survive without the help of others. For example, those business owners that are "self-made" need loans from the bank, other vendors, assistants, supportive parents or spouse. Working hard or the ability to persevere do not make anyone self-made, although those traits are commendable, because for me, I no longer believe in that word. However, people have been indoctrinated into believing that it was their own selves and only themselves that catapulted them to success as if there were no other people involved in the process. So these "self-made' persons tend to brag of their so-called success because it is all about themselves, but the successful ones that I know who are aware that without other people's help they would be nothing, tend to be grateful even though they did work their butts off and also persevered.

    • @whatevergoesforme5129
      @whatevergoesforme5129 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@noelvoss6744 ,

    • @whatevergoesforme5129
      @whatevergoesforme5129 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@noelvoss6744
      I used to believe that word "self-made" until I realized that no one can be successful without the help of other people.

    • @noelvoss6744
      @noelvoss6744 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@whatevergoesforme5129I do get your point, because we all rely on each other for things, absolutely. However, there are some people who put in pretty much all the work, others didn't do it for them, so, they are self made in that point. I'm working on starting a non profit, and while, yes, tons of people do help, at the same time, I'm the one who's done pretty much all the work, research, put in the hours, got the funding, etc. Good people acknowledge the help they have had along the way, absolutely, but it's no excuse for taking away from individual accomplishments.

  • @wompa70
    @wompa70 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    11% out of the Fortune 500 CEOs are Ivy League grads. What’s the number when you include non-500 CEOs? Or CFO, CIO, and other C level positions in the 500?
    The “best” feature of Ivy schools isn’t the materials covered but the connections made with other students. This makes getting into certain companies easier but there are so many hiring managers from normal state schools.

    • @carolyna.869
      @carolyna.869 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      True, but historically ivy league schools took the best students. DeI has changed that but it may go back if they drop DEI

    • @skontheroad
      @skontheroad 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      100% about connections made! That's what is most important and honestly, worth paying for! Because it's crazy expensive!
      But, sadly, most corps have changed their rules and now Mom or DAD can't call cousin Bob for help with even an entry level job, bc they have switched to a Blind Admissions system. And it sucks! 😂 (who knew?)

    • @Torric25
      @Torric25 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I also wonder how many are Ivy League MBAs or JDs vs undergrad Ivy

    • @kerikah
      @kerikah 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Networking is one of the most important things at any college. (Something I didn't realize, unfortunately, until after the fact.)

    • @FreefallSC
      @FreefallSC 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@kerikahprecisely if you don’t network you wasted your money in college. I did it too 🤦🏻

  • @tjpopsit
    @tjpopsit 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +60

    Modern day students want to participate in and learn TRUTH.
    Not false narratives.

  • @clemdane
    @clemdane 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    He belief that you need a college degree to succeed in life goes back decades before "the late 90s". Careful about missing history from before you were born.

    • @josephahner3031
      @josephahner3031 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      The late 90s was when school guidance counselors started pushing college for everyone whether they were suited for it or not. You're right that the wider culture believed this long before then but the trend of enrollment didn't start dramatically increasing until the government started backing student loans and guidance counselors and teachers started pushing it.

    • @mysticaltyger2009
      @mysticaltyger2009 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's true. I certainly got that message growing up in the 80s. But I do think it reached fever pitch in the late 90s.

  • @smkh2890
    @smkh2890 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    British colleges, even Oxbridge and London, cost 9000 pounds per year, that's about $11,500 US.
    how Americans afford college at $40,000 a year I do not know.

    • @mysticaltyger2009
      @mysticaltyger2009 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Not everyone pays the sticker price.

    • @smkh2890
      @smkh2890 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@mysticaltyger2009 care to explain?

  • @bradleymaravalli2851
    @bradleymaravalli2851 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    More affordable, better weather, and a fun environment. That's what students want.

  • @MTx485
    @MTx485 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Ivy League universities have a high chance of turning you into Jessica Burbank or Briahna Joy Gray.

    • @Amber-xp6se
      @Amber-xp6se 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes, you’re right! It does produce independent thinkers who can easily determine between facts and lies and who have the moral integrity to tell the truth.

    • @mysticaltyger2009
      @mysticaltyger2009 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Exactly!

    • @mysticaltyger2009
      @mysticaltyger2009 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Amber-xp6se Thinks like me = "independent thinker". Disagrees with me = "unable to determine between facts and lies with no moral integrity". Hmmm.

    • @MTx485
      @MTx485 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@mysticaltyger2009 exactly 🤣

  • @michaelallen1154
    @michaelallen1154 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Let me correct her on something. She said, "...people don't mind putting in the long hours" - okay, sure. From the age of 18-22, they don't mind. But when they start getting married and having children, they most f_¢king _certainly_ mind putting in long hours. They want to see their kids' activities, typically in the evening on weeknights and on Saturdays. Problem is, the trades' employers DGAF. Their customer comes first... and that's the problem. The customer _isn't_ always right, and the culture needs to shift to reflect that. People's lives and their well-being comes first. If an economy doesn't serve _that_ purpose, then it's time to refurbish it and make it to where it _does_ serve social well-being.

    • @1982nsu
      @1982nsu 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @michaelallen1154 I don't know where you get your information from but you dead wrong regarding the hours and time off as it relates to the trades. I'm a general contractor and my guys work Mon - Fri from 7am to 3pm with paid lunch hour. We work as a team and if one of the carpenters has a family issue the day off is granted and the rest of the guys put in the extra effort to make-up for one less guy. And they do it gladly because the same leeway is granted should they need unexpected time off. But more importantly, their time off is their time off. There is no such thing as me calling one of my guys on a Saturday and telling him that he must submit a report by 9am Monday as what often happens in the white collar world.
      P.S... I'm a college graduate.

  • @emmycab
    @emmycab 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    1:44 "That's my Ivy League education at work. That's where I learned how to do statistics." Good grief, Jessica.

    • @MTx485
      @MTx485 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      She’s the worst

    • @sandrad9695
      @sandrad9695 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Right? I took statistics at a junior college and my son is taking them at a small, private university in California that is not Ivy League. 😂

    • @dukesouthworth5331
      @dukesouthworth5331 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      She is so wrong on so many facts in this segment. Kids are passing up Ivy League schools for the trades? Laughable. The test optional status is also another blatant misrepresentation she used since most, if not all Ivy League schools still were test optional for the ‘24 high school class.

    • @aeternafortuna1644
      @aeternafortuna1644 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Making it seem like its something unique to only ivy leagues..lolololz....

    • @emmycab
      @emmycab 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@sandrad9695 Exactly!

  • @Shineon83
    @Shineon83 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    ….Forget the Ivies : The real mind-blower is that almost 90% of the Fortune 500 CEOs graduated from one of the top 50 schools in the country (Georgetown, University of Michigan, William & Mary, etc.)….

  • @user-nq1vs4ss9x
    @user-nq1vs4ss9x 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    Universities are not supposed to be vocational schools. Liberal arts education done well should teach students how to think critically - not train them to work in hotels. Perhaps fewer people should go to college and should serve an apprenticeship or go to tech schools instead but it is not the mission of a university to be a tech school.

    • @WhizzingFish12
      @WhizzingFish12 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      100%. We are producing far more college grads - in fields that are often useless for the price paid - than our nation needs or our economy can employ. It could be fixed by making them backstop their own loans and requiring them sitting with students to relate cost of the degree and average earnings of that degree before someone declares a major.

    • @kerikah
      @kerikah 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      That's where we get movements that encourage majoring in a STEM field; then we find out the job availability in those isn't that great either. Universities should be teaching critical thinking while giving students learning experiences that make them attractive job candidates for the jobs that are available. They should be doing both because, as a country, we can't afford not to.

    • @explrr22
      @explrr22 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Working my later years in a job requiring technical training but not a traditional four year degree... I saw a significant fraction of the new applicants were four year degree students who had retrained to qualify for the more blue collar tech jobs.
      If you can be a star performer in the field, or quite solid in a high demand field, the college makes sense, but there's a lot of degree programs cranking out grads that are going to struggle to apply much of the college learning in an occupation. If you're advantaged enough, I guess you can go for the liberal arts degree, and wait to start working on a career later...

    • @Richard-gp5tg
      @Richard-gp5tg 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Go to Switzerland and take Hotel Management.

    • @noelvoss6744
      @noelvoss6744 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      The purpose of Universities is not entirely to reach critical thinking, if that's all they did, we'd be in big trouble. They absolutely prepare people for the work force, of which critical thinking is often a byproduct. Colleges and Universities would FAIL if they aren't teaching skills to be teachers, engineers, lawyers, business, medical professionals, OT's, etc. Critical thinking is already developed in high school, college isn't required to do that. The problem is that colleges and universities are sometimes a little too obsessed with certain types of "critical thinking" and are forgetting to just teach people how to do their career. We need competent professionals, not just critical thinkers, there's way more to being competent at your job than just critical thinking.

  • @Richard-gp5tg
    @Richard-gp5tg 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Open your mind to quality small colleges like Hillsdale, Grove City, St Asem's, Kenyon, Betea,Belmont Abbey, and many more.

  • @janet6421
    @janet6421 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    It isn't just "the south" it is "the red states" where laws are enforced and individuals are held accountable to their own actions. Students don't have to worry about being victims of crime or lumped in with "mostly peaceful protests" that ruin the reputation of anyone at your school.
    11% of CEOs are from IVY schools. How old are they? Does their graduation predate DEI at IVY schools?

    • @RM-dc6zd
      @RM-dc6zd 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      …and did they become CEOs of family firms or firms where they had family connections? Netting out those, I bet the number isn’t so impressive.

  • @Richard-gp5tg
    @Richard-gp5tg 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Recommend Notre Dame, even for non-Catholics.

  • @bulliontoy
    @bulliontoy 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    3-5% loss means those students can't walk into those associated corps that strictly hire ivy league schools. When they just go to a regular college. This is a system that has links to those exclusive corps. It's not that simple to just go to a different college and have the same opportunities

    • @amygargan8077
      @amygargan8077 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Those corporations don’t only hire people straight out of college. They also hire people from other companies, so people still have the opportunity to get jobs at their dream company, they just have to build up their work portfolio a little first.

  • @nwbw217
    @nwbw217 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Ivy league median salaries are mediocre by all standards, half the graduates did not even break 100K salary. It does not even pay to go there.

  • @danieltice9717
    @danieltice9717 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Boy, she really doesn't sell her "Ivy League education" as a statistician... It's really not much of a shock that, if you take only the top 1% of high school students, both in wealth and academics, you'll likely come out the other end with the top 1% of graduates. If you want a real comparison, compare Ivy League grads to students who got accepted to an Ivy League school but then went to a different school. The research I've heard about in this area is that there really isn't much difference. It's also interesting how much they belittle the "southern schools" -- I wonder where they learned their cultural elitism?

  • @Goodguy1ful
    @Goodguy1ful 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    Uh, no. Elite HS studentys who have a reasonable legit shot at the IVY league are still applying yo IVY leagues as they still have ridiculously low acceptance rates

    • @MTx485
      @MTx485 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      The schools provided the numbers. They’re the ones saying applications have dipped instead of increased

  • @FrankieDee-hc8ji
    @FrankieDee-hc8ji 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    *LEARN TO **-CODE-** INSTALL A TOILET!* I'm almost retired from decades in advertising and promotion. Right now, I don't have to hire and illustrator, AI can do it with a prompt, I no longer need a photographer or even a stock photo service, I no longer need an animator, I don't need a copywriter, or a video editor, script writer or even a voiceover artist. I no longer need someone to layout an ad, or a website, and pretty soon, they won't need me...and that's just my industry and AI is just getting started.

  • @Koolken44
    @Koolken44 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I sent my smart kid South. Texas Tech rocks. They took all his AP credits and he graduated with a triple major. Ivy leagues make you take all the BS classes that you took in high school again. And the price is right.

  • @freddyt55555
    @freddyt55555 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Applications dipped because they returned to requiring SAT scores.

  • @greenmedic88
    @greenmedic88 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Applications are down by 3-5%. Numbers on enrollment? Acceptance rates to Ivy Leagues are what; single digit, low double digit percentages? Meaning, this has zero effect on enrollment.
    State schools undoubtedly offer the better deal financially, at the expense of the networking opportunities the big names provide. It's really an aspirational issue. If you don't have pie in the sky aspirations of being a player/captain of industry, something a little closer to Earth is the better choice even just from a value/ROI perspective. For starters, there is no point in even applying to an Ivy League if it's just a Hail Mary chance of being accepted.
    But, this (reduced application rates) will likely be a continuing trend moving forward into the foreseeable future.

  • @Caulstan0878
    @Caulstan0878 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    These two are the best. Def diff opinions but always respectful and find insight in each others views

  • @LiveNKicking
    @LiveNKicking 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The yester-years students who are not CEO are a different breed from the students now at Ivy leagues. Only time will tell how this batch of students will do.

    • @elizabethe6459
      @elizabethe6459 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      1991 here….went to state school. We’re a different breed. We all went, but we didn’t come out of school automatically thinking we’d make $120,000 our first jobs. We knew our earning potential allowed us to move up though with those degrees. It’s was perfunctory, you got one bc everyone needed one. “Check”

  • @johnwestervelt7454
    @johnwestervelt7454 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Go to a trade school and earn a real living. You'll be out of dept faster and have a fulfilling life

  • @cindihunter9119
    @cindihunter9119 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This conversation is avoiding the fact that our government is literally making money, and has never budgeted, EVER! GOD! WHY ISN'T THIS A PART OF THIS DISCUSSION?

  • @uknowamsaying
    @uknowamsaying 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    The Hill fired Briahna Joy Gray?
    I am unsubscribing. She was the reason I subscribed in the first place.

    • @elisemariecollinsyoga5905
      @elisemariecollinsyoga5905 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes why would you do something like that??

    • @user-ez1eh3ph1j
      @user-ez1eh3ph1j 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I just re-subscribed

    • @Donzabar
      @Donzabar 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I’m with ya in unsubscribing this is not a free minded journalism channel

    • @evaristmilian7826
      @evaristmilian7826 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Don't worry...Jessica is al most as Leftist as Briahna,

    • @exomake_mehorololo
      @exomake_mehorololo 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@Donzabarwhat's your definition of free minded? Someone that agrees with you?

  • @Frank-nh9fe
    @Frank-nh9fe 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Ivy’s receive many more applications than they can accept, a 5% drop is insignificant. Just a few less rejections than they normally issue. Still a good trend that applicants are being more realistic in who they apply to.

  • @BobSmith-lb9nc
    @BobSmith-lb9nc 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Excellent discussion: You two hit all the high points. Very impressive.

  • @gheller2261
    @gheller2261 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Let's get real here. Clemson is not seeing a surge of applicants from the Northeast because it is an alternative to the "elite" colleges or because it is less expensive. Fact is, the average Ivy League school student ends up paying significantly less than they would pay for Clemson as nonresidents. And nobody from the northeast who gets into, say, Yale or Penn, is going to Clemson. Clemson has seen a surge for two reasons: (1) they are recruiting more nationally than ever before, following Alabama's lead, and (2) the "Flutie effect," which means that rah rah sports colleges always see an uptick in applications when their football and basketball teams win championships. U of Georgia is experiencing the same.

    • @noelvoss6744
      @noelvoss6744 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They pretty much covered that when they said people are looking for the sports experience, fraternities, etc.

  • @steve19811
    @steve19811 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Big 10 Schools (The Midwest Ones) have integrity and are great values for in state students. Top Tier North Eastern students flock to Michigan/Indiana/Wisconsin/Penn State etc....

  • @oscarleon8452
    @oscarleon8452 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    MOVIESQUE college experience?Education is not a priority for them?that explains a lot in this country😢

  • @juancolina7654
    @juancolina7654 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    11% of CEOs Ivy League Gradutes when to college at least 25 years ago….

  • @jk6273
    @jk6273 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Still, a huge number of students and patients want to go to top Ivy League schools, such as Harvard, Princeton, MIT, Yale, and Stanford in spite of the fact that there are cynicism which utterly guides some people not to send their children an top Ivy League schools at all.

  • @rossvoss5408
    @rossvoss5408 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Don’t fret, for every one hundred Ivy League applicants only one gets admitted! The Ivy’s will be just fine.

  • @noelvoss6744
    @noelvoss6744 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Ivy Leagues don't necessarily pay if you're going into certain professions like teaching, law enforcement, engineering, etc. There are better schools, with cheaper programs that really have top programs in certain fields. Unfortunately, it seems like enough people in Ivy Leagues get a little elitist. Several news anchors on the Hill have name dropped their Ivy League education before, and they're not necessarily smarter than other folks. People take note of those things.

  • @williamerickson520
    @williamerickson520 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    While the availability of government money has fueled the growth in college attendance, the rapid increase of amenities and bloated administrations have caused tuition to skyrocket. Which would be fine if the quality of the education rose along with it, allowing graduates to pay off their debts in short order. This has not been happening, as most of us have noticed. The problem that we are seeing is ever more delusional activists pushing increasingly absurd notions into said education, rendering the resulting degrees worthless. Yes we have serious social problems, but we need real solutions, not grandiose but empty gestures.

  • @Hproawesome
    @Hproawesome 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    just because your resume said you graduated from ivy league school does nit mean they wol pay you more money because they dont care

  • @ruthhorowitz7625
    @ruthhorowitz7625 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Going to college for all the wrong reasons! It isn't a movie!
    You should be going to college to expand your knowledge base and critical thinking abilities. To learn things you can't learn anywhere else. It isn't an 'experience '.

  • @la3928
    @la3928 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    All I know is if people want to come to the south they’re gonna have to learn how to acclimate and not tell everyone what they’re doing is wrong and how they’re better. Ask me how I know.

  • @percheroneclipse238
    @percheroneclipse238 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The youth want to socialize. That’s excellent.

  • @aeternafortuna1644
    @aeternafortuna1644 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I bet it's going to get even lower and lower...

  • @CTG2500
    @CTG2500 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Lower costs…and most people don’t really want to struggle.

  • @SmartDave60
    @SmartDave60 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Barron Trump better NOT show up going to Penn or Harvard.

  • @DeepSeas..
    @DeepSeas.. 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ivy graduate: that’s my Ivy League education at work 💅
    The work: middle school statistics
    Yeah, you were ripped off.

  • @g7wilson
    @g7wilson 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great discussion, thanks to you both!

  • @andrewprzybylowicz7370
    @andrewprzybylowicz7370 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    4.69 high school GPA, 1 year of partial scholarship at Illinois Tech

  • @toddmacaroniv.1626
    @toddmacaroniv.1626 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    oh wow reading the comments and I had no idea Bri got fired. I like these 2 but the Robby/Bri sessions were my whole reason for ever subscribing. i'll miss the dynamic duo 😭guess im unsubscribing ✌

  • @donatosaintlouis627
    @donatosaintlouis627 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The anchor is talking about COVID, but the Ivy League gal is like yea, money . . . Did not even hear her. Typical.

  • @mtnewman2001
    @mtnewman2001 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Not everyone is college material ! Education was part of my culture. I graduated from college as a Theatre Arts Major and I truly wanted to be Hollywood Actress. I wasn’t pretty enough !

  • @sh8nn0n92
    @sh8nn0n92 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Kept youngin home from fancy college-at 16- when she claimed “the T.” Deprogrammed her, she is well and studying engineering 🥳- not easy- state can take your child now. The T is Not kind. 1 body.

  • @gritty011
    @gritty011 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My son had to take it for a business 2 year degree the best use of your time is to start early at a good place and work and get experience and be noticed by Mgt get a small degree so you have one because some managerial jobs require some sort of secondary or it least it gets you a leg up

  • @biblicalworldview1
    @biblicalworldview1 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I don't agree that college necessarily helps you to be a well-rounded person. It helps you to be an indoctrinated leftist in too many cases, where you are siloed into one way of thinking and paying 50 to $60,000 a year for it.
    I love that people are rethinking the former automatic notion that everyone needs to go to college after high school and that there are many more options. Including community college as a stepping stone or taking 6 years and working a job and paying for college as you go.

  • @exomake_mehorololo
    @exomake_mehorololo 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Clemson is a pretty good school. There's some pretty good unis in the South overall

  • @tedtalksrock
    @tedtalksrock 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    By the “late 90’s” she’s referring to the 1790’s, right?

  • @Shineon83
    @Shineon83 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Jennifer makes my head spin-she BABBLES. About nothing.

  • @lesliefish4753
    @lesliefish4753 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    College is just an over-priced and over-hyped trade school. HS grads would do better to go to trade school, get a skilled trade, spend a few years earning and learning to handle money, and then take off a few months to take college courses. This way they'd avoid the whole college debt mess, besides being inoculated against political craziness.

  • @aarshapiro
    @aarshapiro 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is actually an interesting piece. And I love the lack of overt racism from what’s her face…that Bri person.

  • @Richard-gp5tg
    @Richard-gp5tg 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I played football in the military with a Cornell Hotel Management manor.

  • @ladypilliwick8179
    @ladypilliwick8179 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i went to college. but i went to a college welding school so I'm the millenar in the family
    but try to tell my family to skip college. good luck

  • @SymGenie
    @SymGenie 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    1:45 That.. doesn't support the case for ivy leage schools as I don't view her as a bastion of intellectual thought.

  • @ezbreezygaming8656
    @ezbreezygaming8656 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So she understands representative statistics when it comes to shilling for college. Has she heard of 13-55?

  • @divinerespect309
    @divinerespect309 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Choice of school not based how money you spend What benefits, Values can i carry with me in growth? The mind what makes success.

  • @lokiva8540
    @lokiva8540 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    What would it be like if education covered practical life skills, like architectural acoustics, and basics of microphones and their usage?
    Jessica obviously has a major deficit in those areas, while one might think a Nexstar purchased major subsidiary would employ broadcast engineers who can train, supervise, and resource such facilities and skills?
    As to quality of content, Bri certainly has some socialist prejudices, but also some strong competencies, and interviewing skills. These two seem like they need to finish their time as interns, or go back to drunken sorority parties.

  • @ChiTheAesthete
    @ChiTheAesthete 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This lady is weird " that's my ivy league education at work" um ok

  • @theresat7065
    @theresat7065 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Georgetown is no more Catholic, shame!!

  • @jglee6721
    @jglee6721 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank God what's her name is gone. Who needs to hear an opinionated activist spewing her venom?

  • @TWLogik
    @TWLogik 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think test scores have very little to do with it. It is primarily the cost of a private education vs odds of getting a job in your field and mkg a decent living; all of the politics w whats going on in the GS; and recent reversals of Affirmative action b4 that being lead by IL institutions. They always want to tie AA to allowing inferior students access and forget abt inferior legacy students. But AA was abt giving women access regardless of color, also non-wyt students who are academically superior access, but historically wouldn't be given that opportunity bcse they aren't wyt or legacy students. Many of these students have the money. Don't blame them, I wouldn't go anywhere I wouldn't feel welcomed. These things could also turn off other students. These current generations are more open-minded. But also college is like your last refuge b4 full adulting and you can still pretend this issues don't really impact me.

  • @pamelqtaylor8335
    @pamelqtaylor8335 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This won’t end well

  • @huguettebourgeois6366
    @huguettebourgeois6366 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Brianna JOY GRAY WAS CONTROVERSIAL BUT THIS ONE IS BORING...

  • @ExtremistOnboard
    @ExtremistOnboard 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    That hair color really shows the shape of her face.

  • @josephlabarbera5994
    @josephlabarbera5994 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I lost her at .oooooo% please with the whiteplaining, My name is Jessica, I graduated from an ivy league school and I’m going to bore you with statistics.

  • @ryanchicago6028
    @ryanchicago6028 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice Anti-Civil War strategy - MUCH NEEDED!

  • @jenniferjones1128
    @jenniferjones1128 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I will say that what these two got right is college was promoted in ways the majority viewed as the way to make better money however they don't realize is the majority of low and middle class, urban areas or conservative minded didn't push their kids toward these overly expensive schools but toward economical ways to achieve higher education with goals more towards trade skills or highly sought after jobs like healthcare therefore have the ability to start out with easier ways to become employed or self employed. There are way too many degrees these days that don't really lead to easy employment

  • @tha1ne
    @tha1ne 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Why does Jessica Burbank have a job, she has demonstrated she doesn't understand percentages

  • @WilliamMorfin
    @WilliamMorfin 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Host talks to a family member, gets their opinion, then titles the video as if it’s a national statistic. Bonus: COVID summary nonsense. 🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @PurpleImpactStrategies
    @PurpleImpactStrategies 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It’s progressive policies young lady

  • @CompositesNG
    @CompositesNG 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    ESSAYS DONT PAY BILLS

  • @___Anakin.Skywalker
    @___Anakin.Skywalker 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    it's ok foreign students and of course asians and jews will take those free slots

  • @karimaferras9083
    @karimaferras9083 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    The firing of Briana is making your news a lame one.

    • @DixieC-vj2sg
      @DixieC-vj2sg 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      No, not really. Hearing BJG make un-fact checked conclusions and bigoted reporting style isn't missed.

    • @SuperRodmeister
      @SuperRodmeister 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@DixieC-vj2sgyou just joined TH-cam 2 months ago? how much is Stoic paying you for the hasbara?

    • @damdavtt1
      @damdavtt1 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Brianna belongs on the veiw with the rest of the cackling hens

  • @budkeybarbee1527
    @budkeybarbee1527 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Jessica, just pull those two stray bangs back behind your ears....please. I've studied 14 self help books and I'm still a mess. What does that say about the efficacy of education? At least it didn't cost me $40 k to find out.

  • @gritty011
    @gritty011 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Umm my community college teaches statistics sooooooooo there that is

  • @jderoma4382
    @jderoma4382 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Why did you guys dump Briahna?!? I don't agree with most of her positions, but the value of having her is that she gives a good representation of the Left's position, opposed to Robbie's. That's the VALUE of the show and frankly the main reason I watch it. Not sure what you are going to do now, but my timeline on unsubscribing is short, 2 weeks max.
    There are ALWAYS two or more ways at looking at an issue, even when it comes to Israel/Gaza/HAMAS. By letting her go you are now beginning to engage in censorship, the most UNdemocratic practice I can think of.

    • @Caulstan0878
      @Caulstan0878 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Don’t make us wait with bated breath, just click that button 😂

  • @Mej_Javiky
    @Mej_Javiky 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Both these moderator need to learn to edit their own words, Both need to cut the word count in half, be more concise.

  • @chrisinouye9354
    @chrisinouye9354 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Please choose Amber to replace Briahna.

  • @Tamar-sz8ox
    @Tamar-sz8ox 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    When you see the nonsense at Columbia etc it’s no wonder , people want to go to class , do well , be happy , hang out with friends , go to a party …

    • @Torric25
      @Torric25 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      think that has little to do with; UCLA had violent counter-protestors..
      think SATs are the biggest issue

    • @alexricky87
      @alexricky87 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah seeing students being assaulted is daunting.

    • @exomake_mehorololo
      @exomake_mehorololo 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      They want to go somewhere where random people aren't occupying their campus sleeping outside like squirrels