@@realchinese9834 Yulin dog meat trade June22st to June 30th. It's a dog eat dog world aint no lie for it isn't safe to walk the streets @ night----I'm doin fiiiiine on cloud nine !
Mao: We wont let western country treat some of our provinces like colonies… Also Mao to Soviets: Here gimme money and you can treat Manchuria like your colony instead.
@@connorhenry9599 they never fully believed that the red army, which was largely guerrilla forces up until after 1945, could win. And only up until the end of the war did the GMD drift more towards the right- they were actually vaguely socialist before the outbreak of the civil war.
soviet even promised to give weapon to taiwan for retaking mainland after 1969, but kmt refused soviet because kmt is anti-commi and american girlfriend
Excellent documentary. As a Chinese American immigrant, my parents grew up through the Cultural Revolution but were never able to articulate the chaos they grew up in. American education completely glossed over China's role in the Cold War. I never knew that Mao's weird on-off relationship with the Soviet Union was the main reason why his domestic policies came about the way they did. It's heart-breaking, honestly.
Shout out to the camera mans that was able to capture these footage so we can watch them today. Imagine trying to record with sound of gun shooting and explosive around you
There are tons of videos from ww2 where you see bullets hitting the ground and walls just a few feet away from the soldiers being filmed, especially in the footage of the liberation of Stalingrad
@@Orcawhale1 that and the simple fact that you can't teach every aspect of every country's history "in school". We'd all be in school our whole lives trying to learn history if that's what people want....
Did you notice the name of the title? Sure, we'd like to hear from the other POV too, but there's a lot of things to unpack and it's not going to happen in 1 documentary.
I highly doubt that this isn't the only documentary about this topic. It was nice to see it from one side, so that one could later view a similar documentary from the other side. That is the best way to do it. Mixing up the perspectives of both sides kind of loses the human side of things. What was real life for some just becomes a foot note in history. When the cold war becomes a game of chess, where the people disappear as the molecules of the chess pieces.
The Soviets were terrifyingly powerful in conventional ground warfare, even next to the US. They also were probably emboldened by their well-developed nuclear triad. China had no real response to what the USSR could throw at them.
@@gonkong5638 i think that speaking about states only, the soviets were number one, after all they had 11 million active soldiers, and more tanks than the us
All world was on the edge.my parents were sitting next to radio all day waiting to hear news .it was very very close to red button.but here we go again approaching cold war again
My grandparents grew up during the Great Leap Forward Movement, and grandpa would tell us stories of those times when he and his family had little to no food on the table and use these stories to teach us not to waste food.
Are you just finding out about the Sino Soviet split? Many communist nations resisted Soviet dominance, Yugoslavia and Albania being the most prominent in Europe
Under Chrushow the failures of the Stalin era become obvious. He wasn't long enough leader to make too many mistakes anyway. Breshnev was much longer in Power.
38 million lives lost was just a normal and natural cost of achieving a Utopia though, per Socialism's notion for sacrifice of the individual for the 'greater good'.
Guess this explains how Nixon cozied up to the Chinese in 1972 and went over there for a big photo op when we had troops in Vietnam fighting the Soviet backed North Vietnamese.
It was China (Zou Enlai) who forced Ho Chi Mihn to accept the UN's terms on N.Vietnam to end the fighting with the French after 1954... But by the time of Nixon's visit to China, we had already committed to a policy of withdrawal...
Nixon should have let Mao and Breznef sort the dispute out ... both countries had thug leadership and all Nixon did was allow the China CCP brutal atheist evil to the core regime to get more control and power
My grandmother (93 years old) (from Taishan region) told me how they and the village and everyone they knew had to sell everything they had (the rice, the livestock and anything agriculture related) to pay off the Soviet Union. This story was told to me a long time ago until I encountered another lady (now in her 60's) when I told her the same story she said it was true except it happened when she was a little girl and didn't know what was going on. It's only recently that this was a massive export to paying off the USSR's debt because the interest was too high to keep maintaining...
Of course they don't teach you this in the West, Because if they teach you this, then you will make the connection that the nazis were socialist as well, even though they attacked the Communist and socialist in Germany, This is one of the left's favorite arguments, But people of the same ideology and religion often war with each other. This is why you Americans so readily believed Jussie Smollet, no questions asked!! Bahahahah
@@christopherc.9995 The most true parts in this doc. were the one scholar who spoke Chinese, and 2 other veterans. As other so-called scholars, who seemed "Manchurian Candidates" in part. You can tell from their chosen terms and hesitated impressions, seemed they were trying to fit into the "political correctness" rather the true facts.truths.
Yep. My dad said there were tons and tons of abandoned underground bunkers that he would play in as a kid. There were a lot of tunnels dug preparing for the nuclear strike.
@Sultan of Sieg what are you on about, mlrs rocket systems are nothing new, they just used them in the standard procedure for an area supression weapon as they have been used since like the 12th century.
@@TheLoyalOfficer This happens all the time. especially for post colonial world. Iraq/Kuwait Pakistan/India China/Tiwan Palastain/Israel Egypt/Sudan etc
There is also an old Cold War documentary series where an episode touched this topic. Try to look up in YT "Cold War China (1949-1972)" its episode 15 of a 24 episode series I believe That at least provide perspective to both ends
Max Schön people from the Soviet Union didn’t disappear into thin air lol. Russian Federation is the successor state and the kremlin can look back at what happened through its archives.
I get the sense that this documentary incorrectly portrays many domestic Chinese policies as being inspired by the Sino-Soviet rivalry, when it seems to me that they had their own domestic origins and motivations.
Because this documentary focuses on the influence the Sino-Soviet split had on those policies, of course Mao Zedong has his own reasons for how he ruled but this documentary is ultimately not about Chinese domestic policy but the Sino-Soviet tensions.
I still remember those underground bunkers in the city for nuclear war. The new generation in China probably forgets those events. This video is a very informative and interesting documentary to teach them about history.
Too bad the Chinese didn't know about radiation...those bunkers wouldn't have saved anyone... And imagine those tanks rolling into the new radioactive wasteland? They'd last about a week. Not to mention the cat holes, lol... It was just to give the powerless something to do so they didn't actually have to think.
@@williamyoung9401 about the same as American cold war propaganda leaflets telling people to hide inside their lead lined fridge because it'll protect them from nuclear bombs xD It's all about giving hope to the people however slim it may be.
However sino-soviet split were mainly due to the soviet wanting a reluctant co-existence over the west and further mistakes with the great leap forward and the cultural revolution disgusted the soviet union.
@@lettuceman9439 Krushev (or whoever this guy) is just a bitter person who have extreme hate against Stalin. probably Stalin bullied Krushev during their school lol
There are no permanent allies only permanent national interests. I remember a sci-fi movie where an American sailor from WW2 is transported to the 1980s. He is shocked to learn that Japan and Germany are now US allies and that Russia and China are US enemies.
Interesting. US saved China from being nuked. Also, I didn’t know this tension occurred during the height of the Vietnam war. Damn, how the world would have changed.
Saved the world. If Soviet could use it against China, they could use it against America or anyone else. At least America used nukes to end WW2, Soviet is trying to use it to end a border conflict?
Of course they don't teach you this in the West, Because if they teach you this, then you will make the connection that the nazis were socialist as well, even though they attacked the Communist and socialist in Germany, This is one of the left's favorite arguments, But people of the same ideology and religion often war with each other. This is why you Americans so readily believed Jussie Smollet, no questions asked!! Bahahahah
@@Clayton.Bigsby.360 The Fascists were Socialists but not leftists, they advocated for the return of traditional values, community, and of course Nationalism. American conservatives are just classical liberals who champion individualism which leads to degeneracy and rootlessness
@@dustywaxhead The Nazis took control of national media, film industry, national industry, national health care, nationalized education, nationalized housing, nationalized transportation and railway services, the Sciences and technology...HMMMMM, who does this sound like in your America? Definitely not the right. On top of that, that Nazis were the "stylish" and "the in crowd," they listened to the most popular music, were considered the most highly educated, the most Science based people and the elite class and most sophisticated!! Who does this sound like to you in your America?
@@dustywaxhead Your American right is considered the least educated, the least science based, the least sophisticated, they are made fun of by the elite upper class and by the national legacy media and Hollywood and television and social media!!
We all learnt about the cold war at school but I think the Sino-Soviet split only got a footnote. I did not know that China got involved in the Korean war because Stalin asked them to, or that there was actual fighting between China and the Soviets.
Minor unstated detail around 10:00: Mao's son was killed in that Chinese troop movement into Korea, something which probably didn't help Mao's love for the Russians much.
This is crazy. I graduated high school in 1969. I was on to worrying about the Cuban-missle crisis but I never heard anything about a shooting war between China and the Soviet Union. Crazy.
The video is an excllent summary and insights of Sino Soviet relations during those years. I lived throught them and can confirm some of the events talked about here. I really appreciated this video. But I want to point out that some of the footages within the video are mixed up with time. Some of the footage about the three year famine with big crowds are clearly footages of China before 1949 (the year Mao took China) and some of them are even old footages that Chinese fighting with Japanese during WWII.
@Touhidul Islam Abir Still better than most documentaries about cold war(about history generally) on TH-cam. MOst of others had tons of bias, careless mistakes, baseless speculations and naive stories regradless of their affection for any faction.
Mao as a grass-rooted revolutionist, educated himself through the Chinese history and wisdom, his plain philosophy is to gain true independence at all cost, he managed to bargain adequately from Stalin to return few Russian occupied military bases, but on the ally end, he has been always very skeptical and in a balanced view from nowadays, it was too blunt and aggressive to deal with Russian relationship and associated Chinese domestic development.
If Mao started to deal with Khrushchev, then he too would become a revisionist. But Mao acted like a real communist and condemned Khrushchev's revisionism.
A great piece of history. Before the revolution from Imperialism 1911, The Father of Modern Democrtic China the First Chinese president Sun Yet-sen Who was teacher of both Moa Zedong and Chiang Kai-shek. President Sun constructed the first Chinese Consitution even when he was very sick. It was the 3 people (citizens) principle China still live by.. There were more people die of hunger before 1911 and carried on to 1949 due to the country's weakness and corruption. The one thing Moa did very well and never got even mentioned, was he put women's equal right into the Chinese Constitution in 1949 when he just found the Communist China. Please notice in this video there were almost as many female soldiers in the front line as the male soldiers. I realized that was why when I saw PBS news last month regarding the sexual assault in the US military became a crisis, my tears came down for a long time. I was born in 1949 in HongKong a British Colony, my late God-father was a soldier. I heard a lot of stories about the war. A good leader's Vision is to guide his followers into 100 years' plan. Until today China is still the only one in Asia that have women's equal rights in their Constitution. The other 8 countries in the west are Belgium,Canada, Denmark, France, Latvia, Luxembourg, Iceland and Sweden. It is very important for the human race, If the mother of the next generation hurting while bearing them. When will be the quality of the next generation?
Theoretically there is political equality, but in practice there is not. What is the percentage of women CEOs? Percentage of women in high places of political power? What about the silenc8ng of women who have claimed secual harassment or assault from male figures of power? From my experience living in China, among the common people 老百姓 there is a fair amount of equality, but among the bosses? Not at all. Also, I had a friend who's husband was a drinker & gambler & lazy & she was bullied by her Mother-in-law, forced to do all household chores & give her wages over.
I'm not a fan of Nixon and Kissinger, but they understood the rift between the USSR and China, and played the two nations against each other to give the United States an advantage over both.
My father was doing diplomacy between the US and China back then, he was the second diplomat to go to China after Nixon's visit. He got in a fight with Mad Madame Mao over the fact that my parent's beds were bolted to the floor. There were NO double beds allowed in China back then! My father tried to move the beds together but they were BOLTED to the floor! So he asked Madame Mao to have someone unbolt them. She said, (I am not joking)' Nixon didn't complain!' My father said, 'Unlike Nixon, I love my wife.' This infuriated her but Mao thought it was funny.
@@loyaldude10 The Vietnamization? That shouldn't be America's war, it's South Vietnam's. If they can't fight for their own existence, better pull the plug on them and haggle with the victorious Commie government instead. At least Ho and friends are far more understanding than other Commie leaders like Hoxha and Ceausescu...
If the USSR and PRC had somehow managed to patch up their differences, a strong partnership between the two as a unified 'communist' bloc would have been an absolute behemoth on the world stage. China brings to the table a huge population, economic potential, and warm-water ports. The USSR also had a large population (ranked #3 in the world at the time I believe, ahead of the US at #4) absolutely massive geography, natural resources (oil and gas especially), industrial capacity, and military technology. Combined, they would have given anybody else a run for their money, economically and militarily speaking.
Just in theory. A long term unified 'empire' like that would not be likely, not at the time nor under the existing leaderships. It simply would have been too unbalanced and stretching too far, almost from Berlin to Hong Kong and from the Himalayas to the Artic, holding dozens if not hundreds of ethnicities, languages and a lot of internal tensions of their own. A United Arab nations, or United Sub-Saharian Africa or even a United Latin America would be more likely concepts... and definitely those won't be the cases for many years to come, if ever.
You dont get it. That was impossible. The soveit union. Was bent on global domination. Reagan was right. Habing another nation do better than ussr was not allowable. Ussr was evil.
Also 23:00 what Mao said is USSR shouldn't provoke at first, as well as when they have done that they shouldn't retreat----Adventurism and Surrenderism at same time.
During the great leap forward and cultural revolution, despite the irrational political decision in the center, I believe what was even more horrific was the bureaucrats at the local level, who doubled the already wildly exaggerated goal of production, in exchange for their promotion via crafting fake data. It was really a death loop back then. Meanwhile, those who should have been responsible for the catastrophic result like Deng Xiaoping became the targets in the later cultural revolution, which ironically gave him the credit to seize the power after Mao's death. I think the most important lesson we learned from this history is not only about how devastating personal cult could go wrong but also how dangerous populist politics r.
Apparently Xi Jinping and the CPC in general have openly admonished the cultural revolution and are now taking measures to fight corruption. Seems like they're making progress as more and more officials are getting arrested for corruption and the wikileaks docs contain an intelligence report complaining that it's harder and harder to get inside info because people can't be bought off anymore :'D
@@imatreebelieveme6094 ah yes good ol "anti corruption arrests" like pooh n his cronies aren't the most corrupt people in the government. It's a purging of his enemies just like every dictator b4 him. Corruption n authoritarianism go hand n hand, forever and always.
Is your comment a failed attack of the Honorable President Trump? If so then FU, Trump 2024 'take America back' When you have socialism you will have economic failure and death. Socialism=slavery=tyranny=theft=death!
Take a look at how Russia became the Soviet Union and how China changed from the Qing Dynasty to the People’s Republic of China. You will know these two countries can share the troubles but not the riches. The Soviet Union no longer exists, but Mao’s Communist Party still exists. I’m really curious how the Soviet Union created a system let system leader hate each other,
Back in the 1950s. When the USA and USSR thought they have nukes, massive and comprehensive military advantage against China. But in Korea peninsula and Zhenbao island, the reality says otherwise.
Chinese had 2million troops and lost between 180.000-900.000 troops while americans lost 36.000 soldiers. For every american, china lost 25 soldiers. I ain't a mathematician but this clearly shows how effective the chinese peasant "army" was.
@@bosanski_Cevap China was not fighting with America only, it was fighting with the UN. Go look up Koreans and UN soldiers died during the war. I guess the combined ratio would be no more than 2:1. Especially when UN soldiers had superior weapons, artillery support, food, and air covers.
@@seanzhang7087 the combined casualties from the allies are 170k of which majority are koreans (137k) Chinese casualties are between 100k-400k and north koreans 215k-400k Chinese govnerment says 100k which I will not trust duo it being an authoritarian communist govnerment. A 2:1 ratio seems pretty realistic but I personally would say 3:1ratio Like you said, americans and UN forces had far superior fire power and support while the chinese were mostly infantry. Americans and most UN casualties were caused by the chinese army duo the north korean army being mostly obliterated in the 2nd phase of the war. The most realistic chinese casualties estimation would be ~200k-250k That's a realistic number
@@bosanski_Cevap There was a huge technological gap between both sides by the time.Amount of Chinese soldiers died by freezing cause they didn’t have anything to keep warm.But they finally achieved their mission.These soldiers just put their strategic purpose above the causalities.This war brought China a continuous Soviet aid which accelerate the modernization.
You did not mention the Mig-15. Soviets supplied the Mig-15, China operated the Mig-15. It would appear that Stalin did, in fact, give his most modern conventional weapons to China during the war of Korea.
The Sino-Soviet rift proved to India's advantage. In 1971, when India was at war with Pakistan over East Pakistan, the Soviet Union ensured that China did not interfere in the India-Pakistan conflict. As a result, India did not have to deploy additional troops to fight off the Chinese PLA in the Himalayas on the Indo-Tibetan border and was able to deploy adequate force levels to overrun Pakistan's Eastern wing and liberate the Bengali nation from the tyranny of West Pakistani Punjabi Mussalmans and help them create their own country, Bangladesh
Bangladesh is also an area that India must let go, because it promotes the incomplete unification of southern Tibet by India, so that all regional hot spots are concentrated on India. India’s ambition is to restore the entire territory of British India and lead India to become the leader of the third world. Unfortunately, Nehru picked the wrong enemy.
Eye opening! Never knew there was an acrimony between soviets and China, let alone one that led to border war and brink of nuclear Holocaust. I can also see how mao forged china’s new found sense of national pride and place in the world ( albeit at the cruel price of disastrous policies). I’m indebted to this insight. Thank you
If you listen carfully you notice Mao only broke with the Soviet union after Chrushtow broke with Stalin - which every historian says it was one of the best action he did while was leader of the USSR. Mao wanted to have same status like Stalin so he risked a war.
@Garrison Nichols The Soviets were indeed the most sneaky empire on earth. The Nazis were very blunt in their propaganda. The Soviets disguised Russian supremacy, colonialism, genocide, occupation, establishment of puppet regimes that brainwashed the populations they ruled to worship Stalin, and war under the cloak of "building socialism," and being the leader of the "Communist world revolution." They were a very sneaky empire. They disguised the new Russian empire under the cloak of being a "union" of socialist nations.
Correction needed: the white-blue-red flag in the thumbnail (next to PRC flag and Mao's profile) is that of modern day Russia, which was one of fifteen republics in the Soviet Union. USSR had a different national flag: red banner with gold hammer and sickle.
Who was a bad leader, who was good leader - simple to see on the doings - Stalin Millions of death in Ukraine in hunger and millions in Gulags, Mao Millions of Death in hunger and millions in prisons. Chrushtow closed the Gulags and under him USSR send Gagarin into Space. He avoided a nuclear war with the USA in the Cuba crisis. So decide yourself
The Soviet Union began dying just after Stalin's death and Krushchev's denouncing of Stalin led to many protests in Eastern Europe which the Red Army had to crush. That was the beginning of serious anti Soviet movements in Eastern Europe. Mao practiced realpolitik and insisted on his country's equality with world powers while USSR post Stalin wanted to be idealist and thought they could have peaceful coexistence with a world that wanted them gone. That's why China today is the beast that it is and the Soviet Union is no more, even the successor states of the Soviet Union pale in comparison to the China of today. So in the greater scheme of things Mao was by far a more consequential leader in a good way than Brezhnev or Krushchev were. It was Brezhnev's war in Afghanistan that accelerated the demise of the Soviet Union which had began after Stalin's death.
@@klm2639 But why did Chrushchow denoucing Stalin? Because the USSR had got so weak under that last years of Stalin - Gulag system costed more then it gained. The Support for the Northern Koreans in the Korea Warhad costed a huge amount and Mao had ripped off his share on that. Grain and food was in shortage - all taht changed under Chrustchow ho put the focus more rasing up the agroindustrial complexes the Steal. If Stalin would had changed his course after 1945 and put more focus on economy then to gain more and more power over thge world denoucing would had no need for it.
@@klm2639, since the USSR collapsed, the US should have revised the so-called "triangular diplomacy" so that it was no longer based on an alliance between Washington and Beijing against Moscow, but between Moscow and Washington against Beijing. For that, perhaps something like a "2nd Marshall Plan" would have been necessary, in which Russia - economically weakened at the time - reduced its nuclear arsenal, handing most of it over to NATO's control and joining it.
25:26 This documentary makes it sound like the statement by the Russian defense minister was the cause of the Cultural Revolution. It does not take into account that Mao was reacting to internal threats that came from his disastrous Great Leap forward
I remember this event clearly as being in March 1970-I was a freshman in college. Media stated Chinese Red Guards attacked Soviets in border dispute & USSR moved its nukes to border for imminent strike. USSR asked if USA would join. Nixon said no.
If you talk about the Usuri river, ZB island incident, then your memory is Wrong, it's in March of 1969, same year of CPC 9th Congress, a much bigger, easier event for memory
Yeah, though obviously to a much lesser extent, but it would be somewhat a tradition from then to denounce somewhat predecessor's implementations of government and why they failed to achieve Communism during their time and why it would be achieved or moved toward more during their time in power.
There was a joke in the USSR about those events. To better understand it, you have to realize that Soviet propaganda CONSTANTLY and INSESSANTLY spoke of peace, yet it was the military that received a HUGE piece of the budget pie and all the best toys and inventions. The joke: From the Soviet Inform-Bureau: Last night, Chinese aggressors attacked a peaceful Soviet tractor working on a field near the border. Soviet tractor crew returned fire from the tractor's 85-mm cannon. The Ministry of "Agriculture" issued a warning, that if the incident happens again, Soviet farmers will be forced to deploy wheat-harvesters with vertical takeoff/landing capabilities.
i was alway's puzzled on what was the core difference between china and russian communism at that time. the ideotic propaganda wars and the start and stop politics make me think that there were opposing fractions within both camps that, at times were on top and at times were under. it was a dangerous game and still unclear who won it.
Mao wrote many criticisms of Stalin (as a marxist) in Critique of Soviet Economics. This documentary seems to think Mao agreed with everything Stalin says but he's written books just to critique Stalin. Destalinization wasn't really the cause between the split between Kruschev and Mao but we have to consider that capitalism was being restored under Krushchev with state enterprises operating on a profit motive and the Communist Party of the Soviet Union was losing touch with the masses.While Mao still had to work with a political system that is inherently hierarchical (as most systems are), he believed that communism should always be with the masses.That was the kind of philosophy that brought the cultural revolution with radicalized students and the callout culture that resulted. Fighting with marxists isn't really reducable to "Stalin good or bad, no in between"
@@jamesondee1216 You clearly lacked comprehension. he is not saying china can take on the USSR. He is saying he never knew China and the Soviets had this type of relationship lol.
I had always been taught the main cause of the Sino-Soviet split was due to Mao telling Kruschev (when the Soviets were aiding the ChiCom nuclear program) how he had no qualms about initiating nuclear conflict with the West...His reasoning was even if 25-50 million ChiComs were killed in the exchange, they still had hundreds of millions of ChiComs left to fight...
Never in my life did I think I would see a Chinese Communist newspaper which said “Defeat the Soviet Union!” - this documentary has shown me how bad the rift between the two countries really became. 😳
Most history classes teach the broad stokes. You have to take college level classes or read books to learn more in details. (include review archived film, video). You have to remember that every subject is taught at age appropriate levels. They don't lay detente on kids who barely know what a pilgrim is, and they'll hardly mention this border war to people who barely understand what the Cold War was about - they're confused enough already. This is a mere side-note, a flare-up.
You got to admire how the Chinese got new weapons technology from their opponents. They incorporated the ak47 Kalashnikov, tanks and nuclear weapons technology from their opponents and were able to keep any aggressor at bay. The help from USA came at a very critical time. It saved the young communist nation and Mao from utter distraction by nuclear power Soviet Union. The U.S. and Soviet Union could have agreed to divide China and keep it as it has been under the previous Empires. The Chinese should remember Nixon and thank the US...and I think they do to some extent! But as they become stronger and their ambition grows to become "another Empire" they risk of losing it all. On the next round the US and Russia will be on the same side, and the Chinese, who have not been endearing themselves to other nations in their neighborhood, will be alone...
but if soviet control China, USA just need to raise white flag to Soviet Union. the Several times population, weapon, territory etc. can't comparing. LOL
My Political Science advisor was a PLA soldier in the 70s and visited North Korea twice. He said that in those times, North Korea was actually nicer and slightly more wealthy than his province in China. Oh how times have changed.
The personality cults of Stalin and Mao. Plus the follow up of Mao against Khrushchev, came close to a second (Utterly pointless) atomic war. The China V Russia conflict weakened both nations and made the ideas behind Communism look insane. It handed more power to America. Who are now building towards an equally stupid conflict with China. When you consider how much human resources (and hope) was smashed up and wasted by these three Greedy, selfish systems. It is amazing that we survived as a species. We all depend on this fragile planet, but Humanity remains arrogant and stupid. We either develop beyond that or perish.,
The United States owes China way too much money to ever go to war with them. China has tied their currency with the dollar for years now. Using it to suppress the value of its currency. Both countries have been there for each other in a time of need. The U.S when the Soviet Union was going to nuke China. China returned the favor by footing the bill for Obama’s stimulus package. The 2 countries need each other more than they will ever admit. China is a big reason the US economy is able to function well off of the gold standard.
@Al 72 Stalin was a canny guy. He would have continued as had done. He knew Truman and he knew he was a tough guy. He knew better than to stick his neck out over Korea. That's why he used China and it worked.
Remember when the History channel had documentaries like this?
I guess you are not a fan of Ancient Alien s .
now it's almost nothing but reality shows with almost little to do with history.
I 'member!
Pepperidge farm remembers
A&E or ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT had documentaries like this in the 1980's and 90's.
Mao: The Soviets are getting too friendly with the West
Also Mao: *shakes Nixon's hand*
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CCP will be gone next year. its 2021 now, lets see.
@@realchinese9834 Yulin dog meat trade June22st to June 30th. It's a dog eat dog world aint no lie for it isn't safe to walk the streets @ night----I'm doin fiiiiine on cloud nine !
@@realchinese9834 lets see
Mao: We wont let western country treat some of our provinces like colonies…
Also Mao to Soviets: Here gimme money and you can treat Manchuria like your colony instead.
Trust between the Soviets and Mao was always fraught. The Soviets initially backed Chiang Kai-shek in the 1920s.
Do you know why the Soviets backed Chiang? I never knew this until now.
@@connorhenry9599 KMT in that time was very similar with CCCP and they had their own army.
@@connorhenry9599 they never fully believed that the red army, which was largely guerrilla forces up until after 1945, could win. And only up until the end of the war did the GMD drift more towards the right- they were actually vaguely socialist before the outbreak of the civil war.
because mao said The countryside surrounds the city，stalin thought he is nationalists and not a communist
soviet even promised to give weapon to taiwan for retaking mainland after 1969, but kmt refused soviet because kmt is anti-commi and american girlfriend
Excellent documentary. As a Chinese American immigrant, my parents grew up through the Cultural Revolution but were never able to articulate the chaos they grew up in. American education completely glossed over China's role in the Cold War. I never knew that Mao's weird on-off relationship with the Soviet Union was the main reason why his domestic policies came about the way they did. It's heart-breaking, honestly.
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@@hykkk3758 不会说 pork bun army .... china is going to pay the ultimate price...
@@vasili1207 what price?
@@fanyechao2761 at least two woks .... maybe three
Kind of nuts they couldn’t make out what was going on…it’s that old saying they didn’t come for me so I kept quiet.
Shout out to the camera mans that was able to capture these footage so we can watch them today. Imagine trying to record with sound of gun shooting and explosive around you
Thank u . I recorded most of the footage of the user China rift.
There are tons of videos from ww2 where you see bullets hitting the ground and walls just a few feet away from the soldiers being filmed, especially in the footage of the liberation of Stalingrad
I'm not sure if the guy/girl you're doing a shout-out to can hear/read you.
Julian Assange
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This is history not taught in school. I had no idea about this. This puts a new spin on things happening in the 60's and beyond. Thank you.
It most certainly is, just not in America due to public school system being so defunded over the years.
@@Orcawhale1 that and the simple fact that you can't teach every aspect of every country's history "in school". We'd all be in school our whole lives trying to learn history if that's what people want....
@@brianjungen4059 No, but you can cover the most important events in history. Which this falls under..
What's History?
its called propaganda, china got free west technology from this
This documentary is a pretty China heavy point of view. It would be nice to hear a few Russian voices in this as well. Not just Chinese.
Did you notice the name of the title? Sure, we'd like to hear from the other POV too, but there's a lot of things to unpack and it's not going to happen in 1 documentary.
The problem is the USSR is no longer existing.....but of course I agree with you，it now looks just like a one side show for my country 🙄
Interviewing employees of Chinese state universities. Ofc they are not going to criticize China or Mao.
You can read Khrushchev's memoir. It's quite interesting especially on this part of history.
I highly doubt that this isn't the only documentary about this topic. It was nice to see it from one side, so that one could later view a similar documentary from the other side. That is the best way to do it. Mixing up the perspectives of both sides kind of loses the human side of things. What was real life for some just becomes a foot note in history. When the cold war becomes a game of chess, where the people disappear as the molecules of the chess pieces.
“Why don’t you get rid of Mao” 🤣 said to the Chinese delegation. USSR really had balls, well, used to have!
he was too drunk i guess xDD
The Soviets were terrifyingly powerful in conventional ground warfare, even next to the US. They also were probably emboldened by their well-developed nuclear triad. China had no real response to what the USSR could throw at them.
@@Chironex_Fleckeri Even Russia right now still number 2. China airforce and navy were complete joke compare to them. Oh and the Tank too.
@@gonkong5638 i think that speaking about states only, the soviets were number one, after all they had 11 million active soldiers, and more tanks than the us
@@gonkong5638 but china will surpass russia in the next few decades
It's amazing how well those veterans have aged. They all look about 20 years younger than they have to be.
When was this made?
They are Mao's soldier! Long Live Chairman Mao! Long Live our heros! Veterans never dies. Salute 敬礼!
Asians age differently..
This film is at least eight years old.
@@AG-GA He killed 40 million Chinese, jackass
My mother still remembers the events of 1969. The entire USSR was on the edge. They were terrified it would be nuclear war.
All world was on the edge.my parents were sitting next to radio all day waiting to hear news .it was very very close to red button.but here we go again approaching cold war again
My grandparents grew up during the Great Leap Forward Movement, and grandpa would tell us stories of those times when he and his family had little to no food on the table and use these stories to teach us not to waste food.
It teaches how horrible Communism was, and still is.
@@hectorviramontes7836 bruh go learn some history man.
@@hectorviramontes7836 if we are talking about where famine happened, it litterally happened everywhere. even in a democratic free nation.
@Haung Jo where??? dude you really need to stop this whole paranoia.
too bad. it should have veen taught to not endorse communism.
A cold war within the Cold War
David Parry - Ever seen a You Tube Troll?
Coiled Steel - You ever seen a TH-cam comment?
= sour war lol
Even the ruskie commies don't like the ccp. That tells a lot.
The margarine of evil
So much for the so called “Unbreakable Alliance”.
There is no forever alliance/enemies, only profits to be made.
its funny how today so many people think that china and russia are best friends...
ussr even killed themselves, heavy corrupted inside. and even ask territory from ally
@@GunGreenGo most important that theyr public think so... that enought
Are you just finding out about the Sino Soviet split? Many communist nations resisted Soviet dominance, Yugoslavia and Albania being the most prominent in Europe
100 documentaries are not enough to picture Chinas history. Never a dull moment in China
Great leap backwards- Kruschev
Under Chrushow the failures of the Stalin era become obvious. He wasn't long enough leader to make too many mistakes anyway. Breshnev was much longer in Power.
Khrushchev and Mao were both ex-Trotskyites.
Apart from Gorbachev the most realistic off theeese leaders...
38 million lives lost was just a normal and natural cost of achieving a Utopia though, per Socialism's notion for sacrifice of the individual for the 'greater good'.
A leap backward? Yes, perhaps for those who would like to see a Russia without Russians.
Guess this explains how Nixon cozied up to the Chinese in 1972 and went over there for a big photo op when we had troops in Vietnam fighting the Soviet backed North Vietnamese.
It was China (Zou Enlai) who forced Ho Chi Mihn to accept the UN's terms on N.Vietnam to end the fighting with the French after 1954... But by the time of Nixon's visit to China, we had already committed to a policy of withdrawal...
@@jimedgcomb4597 but you need a decent exit
@@travishu6613 And that later China invaded vietnam as well and lost...
Charles Ramirez Cuz their best troops were in the soviet border
Nixon should have let Mao and Breznef sort the dispute out ... both countries had thug leadership and all Nixon did was allow the China CCP brutal atheist evil to the core regime to get more control and power
Excellent presentation. Very appropriate narration: voice, intonation. Clear and cohesive flow, that doesn't bore the audience.
My grandmother (93 years old) (from Taishan region) told me how they and the village and everyone they knew had to sell everything they had (the rice, the livestock and anything agriculture related) to pay off the Soviet Union. This story was told to me a long time ago until I encountered another lady (now in her 60's) when I told her the same story she said it was true except it happened when she was a little girl and didn't know what was going on. It's only recently that this was a massive export to paying off the USSR's debt because the interest was too high to keep maintaining...
That is what propaganda does in third world countries...poor, ignorant people believe anything.
A Socialist state using Capitalism on another Socialist state.
Yes, Russia was never China's friend. Russians has been enemies with Qing Dyansty since 1650. If people only learned their true history.
does she believe the gospel of jesus christ to get the gift of enternal life from god ?
@@MG-hg1sq She is Buddhist. Also religion was banned for a time.
One of the sweetest moments is finding another piece of history I didn't know much about - surprised at myself actually :)
Same man I’m pretty well rounded on history especially Cold War antics, this one slipped under the radar
Of course they don't teach you this in the West, Because if they teach you this, then you will make the connection that the nazis were socialist as well, even though they attacked the Communist and socialist in Germany, This is one of the left's favorite arguments, But people of the same ideology and religion often war with each other. This is why you Americans so readily believed Jussie Smollet, no questions asked!! Bahahahah
Machiavellian ." The Prince", should be read @ this point.
Yet within different ideologies, history has distinct interpretations and even different "facts".
@@christopherc.9995 The most true parts in this doc. were the one scholar who spoke Chinese, and 2 other veterans. As other so-called scholars, who seemed "Manchurian Candidates" in part. You can tell from their chosen terms and hesitated impressions, seemed they were trying to fit into the "political correctness" rather the true facts.truths.
I didn't know that the Soviet seriously considered the Nuclear Option
History could have changed quite a lot then
Yep. My dad said there were tons and tons of abandoned underground bunkers that he would play in as a kid. There were a lot of tunnels dug preparing for the nuclear strike.
Jing Cai Han we still have tons or these everywhere
Ahaha, and the US is the only country seriously used nuclear weapons against civilians
@@adilkabyltaev7401 Make America great again!
@Sultan of Sieg what are you on about, mlrs rocket systems are nothing new, they just used them in the standard procedure for an area supression weapon as they have been used since like the 12th century.
Seeing what's going on between China and India I see the relevance of this documentary.
what is the relevance ? India was and is not a communist country not even China frankly is not at the same degree of communism as it used to be.
@@abohnad The CCP's use of propaganda and feigning innocence is the standard playbook till today.
Exactly! I thought the exact same thing.
@@abohnad Look at it from a military perspective though. Border disputes spiraling out of control...?
@@TheLoyalOfficer This happens all the time. especially for post colonial world. Iraq/Kuwait Pakistan/India China/Tiwan Palastain/Israel Egypt/Sudan etc
It would have been nice to have more of the Soviet perspective.
Why? The soviet is gone - and PRC still is in Beijing, so they butter up the history for them.
@@maxschon7709 just because the nations gone doesn't mean its previous citizens are
There is also an old Cold War documentary series where an episode touched this topic.
Try to look up in YT "Cold War China (1949-1972)" its episode 15 of a 24 episode series I believe
That at least provide perspective to both ends
Very true this is as one sided as they come.
Max Schön people from the Soviet Union didn’t disappear into thin air lol. Russian Federation is the successor state and the kremlin can look back at what happened through its archives.
China:send troops
Soviets:send Tanks and artillery
China :capture soviet tank
Soviets:send NUCLEAR BOMB CHINA: Send US
The Soviets were close (as you point out) to using nuclear weapons against the Chinese.
@@Dweller415 yes, US said NO, so soviet quit
1969 china already have 2nd generation nuclear bomb
I get the sense that this documentary incorrectly portrays many domestic Chinese policies as being inspired by the Sino-Soviet rivalry, when it seems to me that they had their own domestic origins and motivations.
ya think
Okay rando
Because this documentary focuses on the influence the Sino-Soviet split had on those policies, of course Mao Zedong has his own reasons for how he ruled but this documentary is ultimately not about Chinese domestic policy but the Sino-Soviet tensions.
I still remember those underground bunkers in the city for nuclear war. The new generation in China probably forgets those events. This video is a very informative and interesting documentary to teach them about history.
Too bad the Chinese didn't know about radiation...those bunkers wouldn't have saved anyone... And imagine those tanks rolling into the new radioactive wasteland? They'd last about a week. Not to mention the cat holes, lol... It was just to give the powerless something to do so they didn't actually have to think.
@@williamyoung9401 you are wrong. They knew about radiation and how to protect themselves.
The new generation in China know what happened those years,chinese love history they learn from history
@@williamyoung9401 about the same as American cold war propaganda leaflets telling people to hide inside their lead lined fridge because it'll protect them from nuclear bombs xD
It's all about giving hope to the people however slim it may be.
Thank you for uploading such a great video. I can't believe there was so much into sino-soviet split that I didnt know before
Soviet uninon‘s biggest mistake is involving cold war with China and USA at the same time
Fighting on two fronts is never a good idea.
However sino-soviet split were mainly due to the soviet wanting a reluctant co-existence over the west and further mistakes with the great leap forward and the cultural revolution disgusted the soviet union.
correction: USSR adding another one on the current menu
@@lettuceman9439 Krushev (or whoever this guy) is just a bitter person who have extreme hate against Stalin. probably Stalin bullied Krushev during their school lol
@@leexingha what?
Throughout human history, friends became foes, enemies became friends…….it never changes.
There are no permanent allies only permanent national interests. I remember a sci-fi movie where an American sailor from WW2 is transported to the 1980s. He is shocked to learn that Japan and Germany are now US allies and that Russia and China are US enemies.
shifts*...
@@davidkugel Allies in WWII has disagreement between their Ideology, about Capitalist and Communist.
"we have no permanent friends or permanent enemies only our interests are permanent."
-PM Gladstone
Absolutely, after WW1, the British expected that their next war would be with America! Literally planning on it!
Interesting. US saved China from being nuked. Also, I didn’t know this tension occurred during the height of the Vietnam war. Damn, how the world would have changed.
Why would they
Saved the world. If Soviet could use it against China, they could use it against America or anyone else. At least America used nukes to end WW2, Soviet is trying to use it to end a border conflict?
@@mikeyetman8407 "My enemy's enemy will be my friend"
soviet also saved china in korean war from american nuke threat,
but soviet and china both supported vietcong against usa before 1972
In fact, the U.S. has made four nuclear threats against China.
The Bigger the Empire, the higher the chances of Internal Conflict
Geopolitics is a very very weird science.
Of course they don't teach you this in the West, Because if they teach you this, then you will make the connection that the nazis were socialist as well, even though they attacked the Communist and socialist in Germany, This is one of the left's favorite arguments, But people of the same ideology and religion often war with each other. This is why you Americans so readily believed Jussie Smollet, no questions asked!! Bahahahah
@@Clayton.Bigsby.360 The Fascists were Socialists but not leftists, they advocated for the return of traditional values, community, and of course Nationalism. American conservatives are just classical liberals who champion individualism which leads to degeneracy and rootlessness
@@dustywaxhead
The Nazis took control of national media, film industry, national industry, national health care, nationalized education, nationalized housing, nationalized transportation and railway services, the Sciences and technology...HMMMMM, who does this sound like in your America? Definitely not the right. On top of that, that Nazis were the "stylish" and "the in crowd," they listened to the most popular music, were considered the most highly educated, the most Science based people and the elite class and most sophisticated!! Who does this sound like to you in your America?
@@dustywaxhead
Your American right is considered the least educated, the least science based, the least sophisticated, they are made fun of by the elite upper class and by the national legacy media and Hollywood and television and social media!!
@@dustywaxhead
That would make your American DEMOCRAT party leftist the bourgeoisie and the right the proletariat, am I right comrade?
We all learnt about the cold war at school but I think the Sino-Soviet split only got a footnote. I did not know that China got involved in the Korean war because Stalin asked them to, or that there was actual fighting between China and the Soviets.
ME NIETHER
Minor unstated detail around 10:00: Mao's son was killed in that Chinese troop movement into Korea, something which probably didn't help Mao's love for the Russians much.
This is crazy. I graduated high school in 1969. I was on to worrying about the Cuban-missle crisis but I never heard anything about a shooting war between China and the Soviet Union. Crazy.
"Chinese protester being crushed by Soviet tanks."
"Chinese fisherman being harassed."
These remind me of something...
Skills learned.
Oh boi...
China become revisionist after Mao died.
The video is an excllent summary and insights of Sino Soviet relations during those years. I lived throught them and can confirm some of the events talked about here. I really appreciated this video. But I want to point out that some of the footages within the video are mixed up with time. Some of the footage about the three year famine with big crowds are clearly footages of China before 1949 (the year Mao took China) and some of them are even old footages that Chinese fighting with Japanese during WWII.
@Touhidul Islam Abir Still better than most documentaries about cold war(about history generally) on TH-cam. MOst of others had tons of bias, careless mistakes, baseless speculations and naive stories regradless of their affection for any faction.
Timeline uploads have been known to use unfitting clips. They used Wehrmacht footage for a ww1 video once
where were you at the time?
@@theGENIUSofART-understood I was in China in elementary school. But I still remember all those boarder conflicts and we had to prepare for war.
But people died rite?
Great footage! Never seen that one before
Mao as a grass-rooted revolutionist, educated himself through the Chinese history and wisdom, his plain philosophy is to gain true independence at all cost, he managed to bargain adequately from Stalin to return few Russian occupied military bases, but on the ally end, he has been always very skeptical and in a balanced view from nowadays, it was too blunt and aggressive to deal with Russian relationship and associated Chinese domestic development.
If Mao started to deal with Khrushchev, then he too would become a revisionist.
But Mao acted like a real communist and condemned Khrushchev's revisionism.
A great piece of history. Before the revolution from Imperialism 1911, The Father of Modern Democrtic China the First Chinese president Sun Yet-sen Who was teacher of both Moa Zedong and Chiang Kai-shek. President Sun constructed the first Chinese Consitution even when he was very sick. It was the 3 people (citizens) principle China still live by.. There were more people die of hunger before 1911 and carried on to 1949 due to the country's weakness and corruption.
The one thing Moa did very well and never got even mentioned, was he put women's equal right into the Chinese Constitution in 1949 when he just found the Communist China. Please notice in this video there were almost as many female soldiers in the front line as the male soldiers. I realized that was why when I saw PBS news last month regarding the sexual assault in the US military became a crisis, my tears came down for a long time. I was born in 1949 in HongKong a British Colony, my late God-father was a soldier. I heard a lot of stories about the war. A good leader's Vision is to guide his followers into 100 years' plan. Until today China is still the only one in Asia that have women's equal rights in their Constitution. The other 8 countries in the west are Belgium,Canada, Denmark, France, Latvia, Luxembourg, Iceland and Sweden. It is very important for the human race, If the mother of the next generation hurting while bearing them. When will be the quality of the next generation?
Theoretically there is political equality, but in practice there is not. What is the percentage of women CEOs? Percentage of women in high places of political power? What about the silenc8ng of women who have claimed secual harassment or assault from male figures of power? From my experience living in China, among the common people 老百姓 there is a fair amount of equality, but among the bosses? Not at all. Also, I had a friend who's husband was a drinker & gambler & lazy & she was bullied by her Mother-in-law, forced to do all household chores & give her wages over.
@@xuyahfish Equality is not equal to average
I'm not a fan of Nixon and Kissinger, but they understood the rift between the USSR and China, and played the two nations against each other to give the United States an advantage over both.
What's your observation on today's state of affairs between the three?
My father was doing diplomacy between the US and China back then, he was the second diplomat to go to China after Nixon's visit. He got in a fight with Mad Madame Mao over the fact that my parent's beds were bolted to the floor. There were NO double beds allowed in China back then! My father tried to move the beds together but they were BOLTED to the floor! So he asked Madame Mao to have someone unbolt them. She said, (I am not joking)' Nixon didn't complain!' My father said, 'Unlike Nixon, I love my wife.' This infuriated her but Mao thought it was funny.
@@emsnewssupkis6453 that's a great story, thanks for sharing it!
Nixon and Kissinger were absolutely brilliant on foreign policy. With the exception of Vietnam
@@loyaldude10 The Vietnamization? That shouldn't be America's war, it's South Vietnam's. If they can't fight for their own existence, better pull the plug on them and haggle with the victorious Commie government instead. At least Ho and friends are far more understanding than other Commie leaders like Hoxha and Ceausescu...
If the USSR and PRC had somehow managed to patch up their differences, a strong partnership between the two as a unified 'communist' bloc would have been an absolute behemoth on the world stage. China brings to the table a huge population, economic potential, and warm-water ports. The USSR also had a large population (ranked #3 in the world at the time I believe, ahead of the US at #4) absolutely massive geography, natural resources (oil and gas especially), industrial capacity, and military technology. Combined, they would have given anybody else a run for their money, economically and militarily speaking.
Unfortunatelly, their leaders were delusional and selfish.
Just in theory. A long term unified 'empire' like that would not be likely, not at the time nor under the existing leaderships. It simply would have been too unbalanced and stretching too far, almost from Berlin to Hong Kong and from the Himalayas to the Artic, holding dozens if not hundreds of ethnicities, languages and a lot of internal tensions of their own. A United Arab nations, or United Sub-Saharian Africa or even a United Latin America would be more likely concepts... and definitely those won't be the cases for many years to come, if ever.
You dont get it. That was impossible. The soveit union. Was bent on global domination. Reagan was right. Habing another nation do better than ussr was not allowable. Ussr was evil.
But China has 800 millions people, if union with soviet, will become a China country. i don't think soviet will agree
@@monsieurshade4104 oh yes so unfortunate, did u not see how these people lived? Looks so awesome huh, how are people such goofs
It’s all about who control the land, sea and air, on this planet call earth.
Also 23:00 what Mao said is USSR shouldn't provoke at first, as well as when they have done that they shouldn't retreat----Adventurism and Surrenderism at same time.
During the great leap forward and cultural revolution, despite the irrational political decision in the center, I believe what was even more horrific was the bureaucrats at the local level, who doubled the already wildly exaggerated goal of production, in exchange for their promotion via crafting fake data. It was really a death loop back then. Meanwhile, those who should have been responsible for the catastrophic result like Deng Xiaoping became the targets in the later cultural revolution, which ironically gave him the credit to seize the power after Mao's death. I think the most important lesson we learned from this history is not only about how devastating personal cult could go wrong but also how dangerous populist politics r.
Apparently Xi Jinping and the CPC in general have openly admonished the cultural revolution and are now taking measures to fight corruption. Seems like they're making progress as more and more officials are getting arrested for corruption and the wikileaks docs contain an intelligence report complaining that it's harder and harder to get inside info because people can't be bought off anymore :'D
@@imatreebelieveme6094 ah yes good ol "anti corruption arrests" like pooh n his cronies aren't the most corrupt people in the government. It's a purging of his enemies just like every dictator b4 him. Corruption n authoritarianism go hand n hand, forever and always.
Is your comment a failed attack of the Honorable President Trump? If so then FU, Trump 2024 'take America back' When you have socialism you will have economic failure and death. Socialism=slavery=tyranny=theft=death!
和民粹有什么关系，我建议您不懂术语，不懂历史不要乱用词噢，你这种在现代是极为危险的。
@@jenovajoestar6708 笑嘻了，你说得对。
Take a look at how Russia became the Soviet Union and how China changed from the Qing Dynasty to the People’s Republic of China.
You will know these two countries can share the troubles but not the riches.
The Soviet Union no longer exists, but Mao’s Communist Party still exists. I’m really curious how the Soviet Union created a system let system leader hate each other,
Soviet Union still lives in within China (CCP) Putin and XJP will bring it back … only matter of time
An absurd conflict born of the total lack of diplomacy on both sides.
Back in the 1950s. When the USA and USSR thought they have nukes, massive and comprehensive military advantage against China. But in Korea peninsula and Zhenbao island, the reality says otherwise.
In Korea, General MacArthur wanted and proposed a nuclear strike, but the president denied the option and fired MacArthur after that.
Chinese had 2million troops and lost between 180.000-900.000 troops while americans lost 36.000 soldiers. For every american, china lost 25 soldiers.
I ain't a mathematician but this clearly shows how effective the chinese peasant "army" was.
@@bosanski_Cevap China was not fighting with America only, it was fighting with the UN. Go look up Koreans and UN soldiers died during the war. I guess the combined ratio would be no more than 2:1. Especially when UN soldiers had superior weapons, artillery support, food, and air covers.
@@seanzhang7087 the combined casualties from the allies are 170k of which majority are koreans (137k)
Chinese casualties are between 100k-400k and north koreans 215k-400k
Chinese govnerment says 100k which I will not trust duo it being an authoritarian communist govnerment.
A 2:1 ratio seems pretty realistic but I personally would say 3:1ratio
Like you said, americans and UN forces had far superior fire power and support while the chinese were mostly infantry.
Americans and most UN casualties were caused by the chinese army duo the north korean army being mostly obliterated in the 2nd phase of the war.
The most realistic chinese casualties estimation would be ~200k-250k
That's a realistic number
@@bosanski_Cevap There was a huge technological gap between both sides by the time.Amount of Chinese soldiers died by freezing cause they didn’t have anything to keep warm.But they finally achieved their mission.These soldiers just put their strategic purpose above the causalities.This war brought China a continuous Soviet aid which accelerate the modernization.
The fight over that tank. For it to sink beneath the ice and raise that thing up from below is wild to me; all under shelling. Great and Informative.
You did not mention the Mig-15. Soviets supplied the Mig-15, China operated the Mig-15. It would appear that Stalin did, in fact, give his most modern conventional weapons to China during the war of Korea.
That's a Soviet pilot
The Sino-Soviet rift proved to India's advantage. In 1971, when India was at war with Pakistan over East Pakistan, the Soviet Union ensured that China did not interfere in the India-Pakistan conflict. As a result, India did not have to deploy additional troops to fight off the Chinese PLA in the Himalayas on the Indo-Tibetan border and was able to deploy adequate force levels to overrun Pakistan's Eastern wing and liberate the Bengali nation from the tyranny of West Pakistani Punjabi Mussalmans and help them create their own country, Bangladesh
Bangladesh is also an area that India must let go, because it promotes the incomplete unification of southern Tibet by India, so that all regional hot spots are concentrated on India.
India’s ambition is to restore the entire territory of British India and lead India to become the leader of the third world. Unfortunately, Nehru picked the wrong enemy.
@@陈陳-t5c Are you from India?
India Lies
When India believes that the British colonies at that time belonged to India, then India should remain an British colony @user-pr9vi4ze4j
@@LEE-qv6kvBlimey, that's a bit of a stretch.
This was awesome!!
"We got rid of Stalin, you should get rid of Mao". My though too.
mao is a great man ,we always respect him in china
@@sherkjlsjdf6334 was
@@alfaeco15 isn't and never was
@@sherkjlsjdf6334 You love the Great Leap Backward?
@@Herman47 we should get rid of evil satan washinton
Thanks!
19:55 Poor man... He will do anything to defend Mao's actions. Young people at the time were so easily molded by this insane ideology.
You can bet those vain-glorious leaders in Zhongnanhai had his tasty Dalian apples~
Thank you for the documentary. Wish I had learned this in high School.
I remember as a kid in sixth grade hearing about this on the news. Of course we did not have a grasp on what was really going on.
When Soviet and China at war.
Mongolia: Man, this is a great movie to watch
Mongolia was actually pro-Soviet. After all, if were not for Soviet help early on China would have annexed all of Mongolia.
This was a great documentary, and I never heard of the skirmishes on the China-USSR border. This was very well produced. Thank you.
Eye opening! Never knew there was an acrimony between soviets and China, let alone one that led to border war and brink of nuclear Holocaust.
I can also see how mao forged china’s new found sense of national pride and place in the world ( albeit at the cruel price of disastrous policies). I’m indebted to this insight. Thank you
Mao had a plan, once mainland got nuclear bombed, all the Chinese abandon home and move to Sybria.
The USSR started it all.
The Bear and the Dragon!
expect dragons dont exist ;)
China is strong
no. it should be evil bear and adorable panda
China calls itself rabbit.
The bear and the firecracker
Man moa was crazy, the soviets where the most cautious empirw on earth
If you listen carfully you notice Mao only broke with the Soviet union after Chrushtow broke with Stalin - which every historian says it was one of the best action he did while was leader of the USSR. Mao wanted to have same status like Stalin so he risked a war.
@Garrison Nichols The Soviets were indeed the most sneaky empire on earth. The Nazis were very blunt in their propaganda. The Soviets disguised Russian supremacy, colonialism, genocide, occupation, establishment of puppet regimes that brainwashed the populations they ruled to worship Stalin, and war under the cloak of "building socialism," and being the leader of the "Communist world revolution." They were a very sneaky empire. They disguised the new Russian empire under the cloak of being a "union" of socialist nations.
It's true at least partly.
@@SHAD0WB0LT they're torturing refugees in ft hood texas concentration camps
@@MMGtheSERBIANqyqypoa evidence?
I remember when I was six years old reading about this conflict but not much was published in the press.
I was referring to the 1969 conflict.
It began with a border skirmish in 1962. I heard it on Radio Bulgaria (short wave radio used by my father to track foreign news).
Cmon man, you wouldn't have cared about this, probably couldnt even read when you were 6 years old lol.
@@dadauto1 Lots of us could read at age 6. I began at age 3.
@@emsnewssupkis6453 Thanks
First time I have ever heard about this history. Excellent!
Correction needed: the white-blue-red flag in the thumbnail (next to PRC flag and Mao's profile) is that of modern day Russia, which was one of fifteen republics in the Soviet Union. USSR had a different national flag: red banner with gold hammer and sickle.
Who was a bad leader, who was good leader - simple to see on the doings - Stalin Millions of death in Ukraine in hunger and millions in Gulags, Mao Millions of Death in hunger and millions in prisons. Chrushtow closed the Gulags and under him USSR send Gagarin into Space. He avoided a nuclear war with the USA in the Cuba crisis. So decide yourself
The Soviet Union began dying just after Stalin's death and Krushchev's denouncing of Stalin led to many protests in Eastern Europe which the Red Army had to crush. That was the beginning of serious anti Soviet movements in Eastern Europe. Mao practiced realpolitik and insisted on his country's equality with world powers while USSR post Stalin wanted to be idealist and thought they could have peaceful coexistence with a world that wanted them gone. That's why China today is the beast that it is and the Soviet Union is no more, even the successor states of the Soviet Union pale in comparison to the China of today. So in the greater scheme of things Mao was by far a more consequential leader in a good way than Brezhnev or Krushchev were. It was Brezhnev's war in Afghanistan that accelerated the demise of the Soviet Union which had began after Stalin's death.
@Paol Vrobel facts don't care about your feelings
@@klm2639 But why did Chrushchow denoucing Stalin? Because the USSR had got so weak under that last years of Stalin - Gulag system costed more then it gained. The Support for the Northern Koreans in the Korea Warhad costed a huge amount and Mao had ripped off his share on that. Grain and food was in shortage - all taht changed under Chrustchow ho put the focus more rasing up the agroindustrial complexes the Steal. If Stalin would had changed his course after 1945 and put more focus on economy then to gain more and more power over thge world denoucing would had no need for it.
@@klm2639, since the USSR collapsed, the US should have revised the so-called "triangular diplomacy" so that it was no longer based on an alliance between Washington and Beijing against Moscow, but between Moscow and Washington against Beijing. For that, perhaps something like a "2nd Marshall Plan" would have been necessary, in which Russia - economically weakened at the time - reduced its nuclear arsenal, handing most of it over to NATO's control and joining it.
@马列乱华 ？？？？？奴隶你是奴隶被天天打骂做天天免费苦力？😂
I had no knowledge of this incident, i was so intrigued by this docu. thanks.
that was an excellent documentary. i knew of the tension between the Soviets and China, but this was insightful
It's really really really rare to see videos about China on TH-cam that are none biased, and just telling the story like the way it is.
25:26 This documentary makes it sound like the statement by the Russian defense minister was the cause of the Cultural Revolution. It does not take into account that Mao was reacting to internal threats that came from his disastrous Great Leap forward
That poor boy dropped the vase of flowers his whole family
Lol they all died after thqt
That's not north korea
1 million troops bro?
I remember this event clearly as being in March 1970-I was a freshman in college. Media stated Chinese Red Guards attacked Soviets in border dispute & USSR moved its nukes to border for imminent strike. USSR asked if USA would join. Nixon said no.
If you talk about the Usuri river, ZB island incident, then your memory is Wrong, it's in March of 1969, same year of CPC 9th Congress, a much bigger, easier event for memory
Ahh the "secret speech" denouncing Stalins crimes. Never knew it had consequences outside the USSR.
Yeah, though obviously to a much lesser extent, but it would be somewhat a tradition from then to denounce somewhat predecessor's implementations of government and why they failed to achieve Communism during their time and why it would be achieved or moved toward more during their time in power.
There was a joke in the USSR about those events. To better understand it, you have to realize that Soviet propaganda CONSTANTLY and INSESSANTLY spoke of peace, yet it was the military that received a HUGE piece of the budget pie and all the best toys and inventions. The joke:
From the Soviet Inform-Bureau: Last night, Chinese aggressors attacked a peaceful Soviet tractor working on a field near the border. Soviet tractor crew returned fire from the tractor's 85-mm cannon. The Ministry of "Agriculture" issued a warning, that if the incident happens again, Soviet farmers will be forced to deploy wheat-harvesters with vertical takeoff/landing capabilities.
Some things never change.
Thank you for sharing this video it’s rare to see inside China during this time period. I would be interested in seeing more videos like this.
i was alway's puzzled on what was the core difference between china and russian communism at that time.
the ideotic propaganda wars and the start and stop politics make me think that there were opposing fractions within both camps that, at times were on top and at times were under.
it was a dangerous game and still unclear who won it.
Mao wrote many criticisms of Stalin (as a marxist) in Critique of Soviet Economics. This documentary seems to think Mao agreed with everything Stalin says but he's written books just to critique Stalin. Destalinization wasn't really the cause between the split between Kruschev and Mao but we have to consider that capitalism was being restored under Krushchev with state enterprises operating on a profit motive and the Communist Party of the Soviet Union was losing touch with the masses.While Mao still had to work with a political system that is inherently hierarchical (as most systems are), he believed that communism should always be with the masses.That was the kind of philosophy that brought the cultural revolution with radicalized students and the callout culture that resulted. Fighting with marxists isn't really reducable to "Stalin good or bad, no in between"
his name is spelled spelled Khrushchev.
I knew of the Sino Soviet split, but I had no idea that they actually fought on the battlefield!
the Soviet is not a real communist country cause they want to invade the others countrys and let others governments compromise to him
The accent of these old soldiers matches the battle ground area.
Wow!!! This history didn’t exist to me until today. Mind blowing
Hope you guys make a video of sino Vietnamese war too.
Mao lost his son in the Korean war, so there is no way that Mao was ever going to forgive anyone who attempted anything remotely near detente.
Mao murdered a helluva lot of other men’s sons long before Korea. He murdered millions, don’t make excuses for him.
This is a very informative and interesting documentary. Thanks.
"The great leap down a cliff" sounds more fitting than "the great leap forward"
In the end, China got ownership of Zhenbao island. They also got ownership of Tielieketi after signing a border treaty with Kazikhstan.
I never knew China and the Soviet Union had this type of conflict.
China is no match against the Soviet during that time
China would have been crushed so there’s no rivalry just Soviet bullying china 😂😂😂
@@jamesondee1216 You clearly lacked comprehension. he is not saying china can take on the USSR. He is saying he never knew China and the Soviets had this type of relationship lol.
你误会了，当时苏联扬言要对中国进行核攻击的时候中国数百万的野战军都集结在了中苏边境@@jamesondee1216
33:33 Well, that was random. Playing Vivaldi's Gloria as background music for a bloody battle fought on the Chinese-Soviet border.
I had always been taught the main cause of the Sino-Soviet split was due to Mao telling Kruschev (when the Soviets were aiding the ChiCom nuclear program) how he had no qualms about initiating nuclear conflict with the West...His reasoning was even if 25-50 million ChiComs were killed in the exchange, they still had hundreds of millions of ChiComs left to fight...
Mao would have gladly exterminated his entire country to stay in power.
That’s true! Mao was a great thinker!
Bruh Mao was playing the situation to his
Advantage
If US and USSR did throw nukes at each other
Mao would probably became the world government
Rumor has it that in fact Khrushchev wanted to build a Soviet fleet in China to confront the US in the Pacific, and Mao refused his request.
Never in my life did I think I would see a Chinese Communist newspaper which said “Defeat the Soviet Union!” - this documentary has shown me how bad the rift between the two countries really became. 😳
27:45 Professor Lee. The hilarity of that situation is astounding
Great leap..
Into graves...
Gorbachev told Mao: "You crazy delusional idiot"
@@frozzytango9927 Very delusional indeed!!!
Fascinating history. I did not know about the border war.
Most history classes teach the broad stokes. You have to take college level classes or read books to learn more in details. (include review archived film, video). You have to remember that every subject is taught at age appropriate levels. They don't lay detente on kids who barely know what a pilgrim is, and they'll hardly mention this border war to people who barely understand what the Cold War was about - they're confused enough already. This is a mere side-note, a flare-up.
You got to admire how the Chinese got new weapons technology from their opponents. They incorporated the ak47 Kalashnikov, tanks and nuclear weapons technology from their opponents and were able to keep any aggressor at bay. The help from USA came at a very critical time. It saved the young communist nation and Mao from utter distraction by nuclear power Soviet Union. The U.S. and Soviet Union could have agreed to divide China and keep it as it has been under the previous Empires. The Chinese should remember Nixon and thank the US...and I think they do to some extent! But as they become stronger and their ambition grows to become "another Empire" they risk of losing it all. On the next round the US and Russia will be on the same side, and the Chinese, who have not been endearing themselves to other nations in their neighborhood, will be alone...
I agree, very well said. I enjoyed being involved in many of the activities in that neighborhood in the 1950's 60s 70s.
Relax dude
but if soviet control China, USA just need to raise white flag to Soviet Union. the Several times population, weapon, territory etc. can't comparing. LOL
Sorry mate , thing don't work like that
hahaha😆
Surprising no mention of Nixon’s visit to China in 1972. Had major impact on the tri polar cold war
My Political Science advisor was a PLA soldier in the 70s and visited North Korea twice. He said that in those times, North Korea was actually nicer and slightly more wealthy than his province in China. Oh how times have changed.
The personality cults of Stalin and Mao. Plus the follow up of Mao against Khrushchev, came close to a second (Utterly pointless) atomic war. The China V Russia conflict weakened both nations and made the ideas behind Communism look insane. It handed more power to America. Who are now building towards an equally stupid conflict with China.
When you consider how much human resources (and hope) was smashed up and wasted by these three Greedy, selfish systems. It is amazing that we survived as a species. We all depend on this fragile planet, but Humanity remains arrogant and stupid. We either develop beyond that or perish.,
The United States owes China way too much money to ever go to war with them. China has tied their currency with the dollar for years now. Using it to suppress the value of its currency. Both countries have been there for each other in a time of need. The U.S when the Soviet Union was going to nuke China. China returned the favor by footing the bill for Obama’s stimulus package. The 2 countries need each other more than they will ever admit. China is a big reason the US economy is able to function well off of the gold standard.
i agree with you, we need to develop as a specis or else we will die.
Gov'ts all still neccessary nowadays if you look into it from aother side.
*Wow this video really makes you wonder how the Korean war would have turn out if Stalin did not die.*
Knowing Stalin, he wouldn't risk a war with the US just yet when the USSR just had the nuke less than a year before...
@Al 72 Stalin was a canny guy. He would have continued as had done. He knew Truman and he knew he was a tough guy. He knew better than to stick his neck out over Korea. That's why he used China and it worked.
Watch the video "Bankers Love Socialism"
by Anthony Sutton. International banking
supports both/all sides during conflicts.
I thought about this as well, how the death of someone can shape the existence of million people in very distant lands. Many lives saved anyways.
@@here_we_go_again2571 Sutton never met a conspiracy theory he didn't believe in. Not really the ideal source to base a whole world view on.
Great documentary. Thanks for the upload!
Man my parents were young kids during this time and they had no idea about The Sino-Soviet Border War going on
If there was a Fallout game set in China/Soviet Union in the scenario the Soviet-Sino relations soured towards war it would be interesting
Now this is a story I wanted to hear.