The Biggest Land Animals In History: The Megasauropods

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  • Megasauropod dinosaurs were the largest animals to ever walk on land, which some even rivalling the biggest whale species in terms of body mass. When it comes to terrestrial animals, sauropods are far and away the most massive. This video explains the biggest sauropod dinosaurs' size as well as their ecology and physiological adaptations that allowed them to grow so big.
    Mega sauropods are the biggest dinosaurs ever by far. So out of the biggest sauropods ever, which mega sauropod claims the title of king? This ranking sorts giant sauropods by size and class within the Megakingdom, and Vividen explains the reasoning for each mass estimate. You may be surprised at the true winner in this contest of the largest sauropod dinosaurs.
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    How big were dinosaurs? Were they bigger than blue whales? The biggest dinosaur may have been Bruhathkayosaurus matleyi, a huge titanosaur from India, according to a new study by Gregory S. Paul and Asier Larramendi. The two paleontologists analyzed dinosaur size limits to find out the answer to the question: how big were dinosaurs? When it comes to the comparison of “Dinosaurs vs blue whale” and “Dinosaurs vs mammals,” it can go either way. Blue whales are often cited as the biggest animals ever, but with this recent discovery about giant sauropods like Bruhathkayosaurus and Amphicoelias (now Maraapunisaurus) that may not be true. Dinosaurs the size of a blue whale could be more common than previously thought, with multiple sauropod species weighing well over 100 tonnes. But was it really possible that there were dinosaurs the size of a blue whale? Find out here on The Vividen!
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  • @MourningCoffeeMusic
    @MourningCoffeeMusic 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2312

    The biggest sauropod is Spinosaurus.

    • @MonsterZilla452
      @MonsterZilla452 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      🤡

    • @TaurusSaurus
      @TaurusSaurus 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +113

      Facts.

    • @JS53516
      @JS53516 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +84

      True

    • @toranydangit
      @toranydangit 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

      I agree

    • @kailanerman5090
      @kailanerman5090 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +160

      No way man!!! Giganticosaurus is the biggest cerotopsian the world has ever seen!!! 💯

  • @joaovitorambrosiomilani3553
    @joaovitorambrosiomilani3553 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2359

    I can't stop thinking that these are not the biggest exemplars of their species, these are the ones that just ended up fossilized.

    • @devinvalero7452
      @devinvalero7452 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +543

      With how rare fossilization is - that's practically a guarantee! These specimens are often literally one in a million, the odds of the ones we find being the absolute largest of their species is near zero.

    • @raylopez99
      @raylopez99 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

      @@devinvalero7452 Sounds like the famous Monty Hall paradox, but yes.

    • @Strawberrymilkdrink
      @Strawberrymilkdrink 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +171

      The thought of herd of these things is crazy

    • @rykerhippen9983
      @rykerhippen9983 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +83

      Remember. The larger the bones the more likely they will be fossilized too

    • @raylopez99
      @raylopez99 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@rykerhippen9983 Pace Cambrian period jellyfish.

  • @gladiolus5377
    @gladiolus5377 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +537

    There are a lot of creatures from the past that I want to see in person, but the biggest of sauropods are possibly at the top of that list. Truly a shame we will never be able to see the spectable who were the most magnificent creatures to ever walk the earth.

    • @pedroroque829
      @pedroroque829 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      You can see a titan bigger than any of them. The mighty blue whale, you can even dive with them.

    • @raylopez99
      @raylopez99 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

      @@pedroroque829 Supported by water, that doesn't count. Also blue whales are protected so it's hard to dive with them. I personally say bring back the sauropods using genetic engineering; I'd like to see 200+ ton dinos walking the earth. Tho the EPA would have an issue with their methane gas emissions.

    • @pedroroque829
      @pedroroque829 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      @@raylopez99 200 tons is a big of a stretch. Over 100 tonnes sure but 200 is probably an exaggeration

    • @nirudangaragoda5286
      @nirudangaragoda5286 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      I'll probably sell my soul to see *ANY* dinosaur but on the other hand us humans don't deserve to witness such magnificent creatures. Most of us can't even appreciate all the amazing animals that live alongside us. So what makes us deserving of seeing the biggest animals to ever walk the earth?

    • @eel5618
      @eel5618 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      ​@@raylopez99Genes dont work like that its sadly imposible to bring them back and also 200 TONS IS WAY TOO MUCH

  • @MiniTrial
    @MiniTrial 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +264

    Finally actual biggest dinosaur list, not some of the nonsense outdated random facts channel

  • @qwellen7521
    @qwellen7521 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +198

    The closest the world got to actual kajiu.

    • @grzybowy1680
      @grzybowy1680 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Prehistoric Planet's Dreadnoughtus fight scene is basically a real life kaiju battle

  • @GODEYE270115
    @GODEYE270115 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +518

    A land animal that could possibly rival the blue whale. I didn’t think I’d live to see that
    Dinosaurs were just built different

    • @TheVividen
      @TheVividen  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +86

      Truly

    • @prasanth2601
      @prasanth2601 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      @@TheVividen
      Are we absolutely sure regarding Bruh..Saur being an actual dino?? I mean how come all of a sudden it's being declared as the biggest dino. Also was it's size estimates accepted among palaeontological community.

    • @concept5631
      @concept5631 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +68

      ​@@prasanth2601 Sauropods have always been considered the largest group of dinosaurs. That was never in question.

    • @TaurusSaurus
      @TaurusSaurus 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@prasanth2601 Assuming the fossils actually belong to it yeah.

    • @Tyrannosaurine
      @Tyrannosaurine 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Literally everything is “built different” or everything would be the exact same as everything else regardless of how many times you repeat the same tired trope as everyone else.

  • @AgroAcro
    @AgroAcro 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +601

    I really hope we find more remains from Bruhathkayosaurus. If we found enough to confirm that 120 ton size that would prove just how large they could get. Also, finding a large carnivore there would also make that rediculously massive size more believable.

    • @suricata1993
      @suricata1993 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      Agree because right now I don’t believe for a second on their estimates - so they see a old picture and confidently say that is a sauropod of 110tons on a conservative side? Real science there

    • @iron2684
      @iron2684 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

      ​@@suricata1993ah yes, we see here an internet warrior that definetly understands the science of determining sauropod size

    • @Doomguyhunter1
      @Doomguyhunter1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

      ​@@iron2684 Good skepticism is important, and I do think bruhath at least couldn't reach anywhere near 170 tonnes, that's literally around 75% larger than maraapunisaurus' giant estimates, though bruhath was still likely very large, but I don't see it being over 130 tonnes, and anyways, a few pictures that don't have much to compare the bones to don't give a good picture of their size, and right now we can't say for sure how big bruhath was, not until we find some more material to give us some definitive information on how big bruhath could've been.

    • @suricata1993
      @suricata1993 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@iron2684 internet warrior? I’ve been studying dinosaurs for the past 20 years… but yeah, tell me again boy about the scientific weight determination formula use for photos. Go on, I can wait

    • @N..P..
      @N..P.. 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@iron2684Ah yes, we see here an idiot who doesn't understand what the phrase 'internet warrior' means but uses it anyway.

  • @mstr293
    @mstr293 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

    You forgot the biggest Worldbreaker-class sauropod: Yo Mama!

  • @raylopez99
    @raylopez99 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +167

    Biggest blue whale ever, supported by water, was 200 tons. Imagine that last dinosaur weighing as much (if not more, if it was near the average for its kind) and supported on four massive legs. If that beasts stepped on you...

    • @Dr.Ian-Plect
      @Dr.Ian-Plect 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      You can't state ever, just known.

    • @geneticdisorder1900
      @geneticdisorder1900 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Toe jam or boat nectar, nope it that elderly couple from 12B.

    • @1370802
      @1370802 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      That dinosaur weighed 95 tons, about half of a blue whale

    • @MJW238
      @MJW238 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I’m not sure that would even be possible. Physics and biology would seem to discount it.

    • @elmjojokes7782
      @elmjojokes7782 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      @@MJW238 life finds away
      Even 70 ton animals walking around and actually Getting enough to eat is actually damn near unbelievable. Like you said, With physics and biology applied it just boggles my mind how it can even be real. It's insanity

  • @THX11458
    @THX11458 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +161

    It's mind blowing to think that, at the very least, there were sauropods that rivaled the mass of a blue whale.

    • @treystephens6166
      @treystephens6166 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      It’s possible but that’s getting unlikely.

    • @jackstraw4222
      @jackstraw4222 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      average blue whale is 75-80ft long....even back centuries ago 100ft+ blue whales were quite rare....

    • @soudino2723
      @soudino2723 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      @@jackstraw4222 length dosent matter the amout of mass does

    • @comrade-princesscelestia4907
      @comrade-princesscelestia4907 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@soudino2723who appointed you as the arbiter of what does and doesn't matter?

    • @soudino2723
      @soudino2723 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      @comrade-princesscelestia4907 measuring the size of a living organism is determined by weight, not length. If we compare by length, then a reticulated python is bigger than an elephant, but by weight, the average elephant is 80 times bigger than a reticulated python, and mass is used as the base to measure the size of animals which is why I said length doesn't matter when comparing sizes

  • @eliletts8149
    @eliletts8149 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    On the topic of Alamosaurus, it's ecological relationship with Tyrannosaurus rex is never really talked about all too much at all in paleontology. I would think such a discussion would be more popular!

    • @jurassicsmackdown6359
      @jurassicsmackdown6359 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      How freakin hard would a documentary scene where a family of Tyrannosaurus go after an old or sick Alamosaurus be???
      Imagine showing off the intelligence of the T. _rex_ family, and the massive size of the Alamosaurus as it fights for its life

    • @wildlifeisthewealthofnatur5457
      @wildlifeisthewealthofnatur5457 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Because Alamosaurus can destroy a T rex with little to no efforts which will make T rex fanbabies mad who think they are invincible predators capable of hunting anything.

  • @Fossil_Blade
    @Fossil_Blade 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I used to just go "haha scally giraffe" when i was young. But now, I can't imagine what it would be like to just stand in a yard and watch as one of these creatures the size of a building walk past you.

  • @justjoshua5759
    @justjoshua5759 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Megalaphobia. Is a good description of understanding mega sauropods and therapods exist and seeing how we really are less than rats in comparison.
    Also the sueprgrowth is interesting. Vividen if you were to see this. You reckon this process is similar in other genus attempts like the growth hormone in crocodilians that ensures that they never stop growing?

    • @TheVividen
      @TheVividen  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      It's possible, but from what I've read sauropods experienced extreme growth in their early years and then slowed down considerably. I'm currently conducting more research into their intraspecific size variation to see how big they continued to get after sexual/skeletal maturity, so we'll see what I uncover!

  • @extraterrestrialhorse9722
    @extraterrestrialhorse9722 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +148

    Shocked at how small Puertasaurus is. Always thought it was comparable or bigger than Argentinosaurus.

    • @lightman3581
      @lightman3581 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I saw somewhere that it’s bones are from a juvenile

    • @Ornitholestes1
      @Ornitholestes1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      @@lightman3581 there's no evidence for that (but then, I don't think there's ever been a histological analysis done for any of this material, so we also don't know if it, or Argentinosaurus for that matter, was still actively growing).
      What needs to be kept in mind is that these are all estimates. Puertasaurus is only known from four vertebrae. It really could be a wide range of sizes, and some people have estimated it at far larger sizes than Argentinosaurus (Nima Sassani's widely criticised reconstruction is far over 100 t) but in direct comparison, the dorsal vertebra is shorter and shallower than that of Argentinosaurus (albeit far wider), so the overall tendency is towards saying that it's a bit smaller.

    • @rodrigopinto6676
      @rodrigopinto6676 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Ornitholestes1😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @Ornitholestes1
      @Ornitholestes1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@rodrigopinto6676 still haven't stopped trolling and liking all of your own comments, I see?

    • @szodoss7764
      @szodoss7764 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      In reality, there could not have been much difference in weight between argentinosaurus and puertasaurus, maybe they were the same (just my opinion).
      Argentinosaurus may have had a longer torso and puertasaurus had a more robust torso.
      Puertasaurus's dorsal centrum is very chunky(the chunkiest), the transverse process is both wide & robust, the neural spine is short, but very robust.

  • @parthasarathidey1113
    @parthasarathidey1113 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Shantungosaurus watches with Jealousy.

  • @melvinshine9841
    @melvinshine9841 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

    I'll always love the irony of sauropods, and dinosaurs in general, being able to reach sizes most land mammals can't compare to partly because they had a lot of air in their bones and bodies. It sounds so incredibly counterintuitive.
    Plant material must be more nutritious the higher off the ground it is, since all the truly giant land animals happen to be capable of high browsing. There actually isn't that much of a difference in size between the largest mid browsing/low grazing mammals and dinosaurs.

    • @italucenaz
      @italucenaz 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      i don't think it's about plants being more nutritious at the top, rather it's that there are way less animals eating them and there is surplus for the big guys

    • @Titancameraman64
      @Titancameraman64 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      no must sauropods diet consistent mostly of low plants like ferns grass there necks were probably used like elephant's trunk to reach food without moving PBS eons made a video about the theory also the American Museum of Natural History wote a article going more in detail

    • @hainleysimpson1507
      @hainleysimpson1507 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ferns can grow to be massive.

  • @jamesoldham9995
    @jamesoldham9995 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

    "Fermentation based digestion"
    Imagine the farts these things produced

    • @MichalArchangelo
      @MichalArchangelo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Add another theory to the list of possible causes of the K-Pg extinction event

    • @jurassicsmackdown6359
      @jurassicsmackdown6359 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Just huffing dinosaur farts and getting high 😭😭😹

    • @bethaneh5318
      @bethaneh5318 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@jurassicsmackdown6359why did you have to put that image in my head 😭😭😭😂😂

  • @Infinityc702
    @Infinityc702 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    Splendid video! One of the few Dino channels nowadays that actually gets me hyped up, subbed and keep going mate

    • @TheVividen
      @TheVividen  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Awesome, thank you! It's people like you that keep the channel going!

    • @Infinityc702
      @Infinityc702 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@TheVividen Haha, no problem man, keep up the great work!:)

  • @BinroWasRight
    @BinroWasRight 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    This is absolutely brilliantly done and also quite up to date. I like your style, sir. Subscribed 😎

    • @TheVividen
      @TheVividen  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Thank you! Glad to have you!

  • @BJByochick
    @BJByochick 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    I love you man. I love the gym, tanks, cars, bikes, jets, dragons, guns and a whole lot more but you've made dinosaurs one of my favorite things.

  • @aircraftcarrierwo-class
    @aircraftcarrierwo-class 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    It's always shocking to realize how much we know or intuit about so many sauropod species when one considers how fragmentary and incomplete their fossils tend to be.

  • @figlet6427
    @figlet6427 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I'm so grateful that my fascination with these animals survived to my adulthood, bcs it's just about the only thing anymore that can get me all giddy, wide eyed and excited anymore❤ great video

  • @jamesaron1967
    @jamesaron1967 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Great breakdown on known sauropod sizes.

  • @arkady116
    @arkady116 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Brachiosaurus has been my favorite dinosaur since I was a kid. I fell in love with it watching the first jurassic park movie with my dad. And alongside the Albertosaurus they are still my favorite dinosaurs.

  • @ZeFroz3n0ne907
    @ZeFroz3n0ne907 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Great video! Love the channel! ❤

  • @nono9543
    @nono9543 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +97

    I do wonder what is the size limit for a sauropod or any land animal in general. I get that it depends on body plan but many people say that the maximum length a sauropod could accomplish is 60 meters. Which tbf, is bigger/longer than the first Godzilla.

    • @concept5631
      @concept5631 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Damn

    • @hyrumhanson3390
      @hyrumhanson3390 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

      The ability to shed its ever increasing body heat would likely be one of the final limits of size.

    • @r.k845
      @r.k845 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Skeleton wise, it’s 1000 tons.

    • @ferociousrazordino3581
      @ferociousrazordino3581 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Bigger than we think probably

    • @yanlopez674
      @yanlopez674 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@r.k845Yeah bullsht, bro pulled the numbers out of his ass.

  • @Redrustic101
    @Redrustic101 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    i love these vids, make more of these but about all sorts of different animals, so much obscure species i learnt from this vid.

  • @nono9543
    @nono9543 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    As far as I know, the Rajasaurus shared an ecosystem with a Bruhathkayosaurus. But the Rajasaurus had lengths of around 30 to 36 feet. Large, bigger than other abelisaurids like Carnotaurus but nowhere near large enough to destroy a Bruh.

    • @Tyrannosaurine
      @Tyrannosaurine 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      We still don’t know that some theropods didn’t hunt in packs.
      We are always told it’s unlikely because predatory birds are largely solitary and given examples of solitary large cats, etc etc. But what is even more unlikely? That an entire clade of organisms all conformed to a single diagnostic trait.

    • @wildlifeisthewealthofnatur5457
      @wildlifeisthewealthofnatur5457 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Rajasaurus should be like 80-100 feet long to hunt an adult Bruhathkayosaurus. At 30 feet length, even 10 wouldn't be able to hunt an adult.

  • @TaurusSaurus
    @TaurusSaurus 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +121

    I went to the natural history museum in New York last year and the sauropod skeleton was mind boggling huge.
    Edit: thanks for the likes, also the sauropod was actually Patagotitan if anyones wondering.

    • @TheVividen
      @TheVividen  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      That's awesome!

    • @ConstantOfTermination
      @ConstantOfTermination 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      What sauropod was it

    • @extraterrestrialhorse9722
      @extraterrestrialhorse9722 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      ​@@ConstantOfTerminationyo momma

    • @MonsterZilla452
      @MonsterZilla452 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @tossupeater Patagotitan skeleton I seen in real life & the wound it got inflicted by a Tyrannotitan.

    • @TaurusSaurus
      @TaurusSaurus 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ConstantOfTermination Im pretty sure it was Argentinosaurus.

  • @TheWigglergler
    @TheWigglergler 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

    I have seen a lot of people completely discounting Bruhathkayosaurus, and while healthy skepticism is a good thing, I would argue in favor of current size estimates.
    1. A lot of people are saying that the tibia was probably a femur. This was a common belief among paleontologists prior to the release of new photos in 2022. It is worth noting that the first paleontologist to make an estimate based on this assumption was Paul, who was one of the authors of the study placing it at 110-170 tonnes. The photos show that the bone was a tibia. In addition, there was a degraded femur at the site, which is where the 110-130 tonne conservative range comes from.
    2. The original discoverers of the Bruhathkayosaurus did not recognize how huge it was. This makes it rather unlikely that the were exaggerating, as they would gain nothing from doing so. At the time of its discovery, Giraffatitan was still widely considered to be the largest known sauropod.
    3. I've seen it stated that the masses of the largest sauropods (Argentinosaurus, Notocolossus, Puertasaurus, ect.) appear to have an upper limit at ~80 tonnes. This is only true if you take upper estimates for all of these (except Argentinosaurus), and most of these upper estimates are outdated. Instead, we see a whole bunch of sauropods between 40-60 tonnes, and then a handful larger than that. The most likely estimates are too widely spaced to infer an upper limit from them. The most likely reason why we haven't found any complete 100+ tonne sauropods is that such animals would almost never fossilize. Sauropods in general tend not to fossilize as much as other animals due to their hollow bones, and the problem only gets worse as they get bigger. A sauropod of that size being buried quickly enough to fossilize would have been exceedingly rare. Combine that with the probable relatively low adult population sizes (given the amount of food that they would have needed to consume), and you get very little fossilization.
    4. India may have been an island, but it was a big one; it could easily sustain a sizeable population of gigantic sauropods. Just because we have not found any giant theropods to encourage sauropods to grow huge does not mean that they were not there. In fact, an ilium at the site where Bruhathkayosaurus was found was possibly from a large theropod.
    5. Paul and Larramendi are experts in scaling sauropods. In fact, they tend to be among the ones to downsize sauropods claimed to be the "largest ever". They both previously came out with smaller estimates, but changed their minds based on the evidence presented in 2022. The methods that they used were quite good (at least given how fragmentary the specimen is), and scaling using limb bone allometry gets accurate sizes for sauropods. In fact, the 110-130 tonne range is quite conservative. I would argue it is more likely to be an underestimate than an overestimate.
    Take all of this with a grain of salt, but given current evidence, Bruhathkayosaurus is most likely the largest known sauropod (and possibly the largest known animal, given the average blue whale is 110 tonnes).

    • @Doomguyhunter1
      @Doomguyhunter1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Underestimate? Nah, and you shouldn't take it with a grain of salt, more like with whole salt shaker. And 120 tonnes is the max size for a terrestrial animal, at least professors at the university of New Mexico stated this, I don't get why a few pictures are justification for 110-130 tonnes being a "conservative" estimate, 130 tonnes is literally over 45% more than the second biggest sauropod, if maraapunisaurus' giant estimates are true, though I do think bruhath was still very large, in the top 5 biggest land animals for sure.

    • @TheWigglergler
      @TheWigglergler 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@Doomguyhunter1 I would like to see the study that proposes a 120 tonne size limit. That's rather specific given how many variables are at play here, so I'm quite skeptical. In any case, a roughly defined size limit based on parameters that are not completely understood is not more valuable than fossil evidence. Up until the 1950s, Brachiosaurus was considered too large to live on land. Also, the degree of increase doesn't really matter. O. megalodon was ~50 tonnes on average, more than twice as large as the next largest known shark. Even the conservative (and almost certainly more accurate) estimates for Perucetus put it at ~80 tonnes, four times as much as Basilosaurus, the next largest known basilosaurid. The estimates are conservative because they are primarily based on the femur, which gives lower estimates than scaling using the tibia.

    • @Doomguyhunter1
      @Doomguyhunter1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TheWigglergler well, it wasn't a study, just a statement, so I'm decently skeptical of it too, but I don't think it's too far from the true max size. And in sauropods, the biggest ones always seem to be not too much bigger than the runner-ups, argent is only a bit larger than the runner-up, and maraapunisaurus, if the estimates are true, is only around 10% larger, even less if argentinosaurus cf. were to be a more average specimen. In my obviously unprofessional eyes, 110-130 tonnes is possible, but should be considered to be a somewhat high estimate, and we should consider sizes anywhere from 80-130 tonnes, though I'm not an expert, maybe I'm wrong, I hope we find more material so we can finally get these goofy debates about some pictures over, and finally discover the true size of bruhath.

    • @suricata1993
      @suricata1993 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Doomguyhunter1 careful, everyone likes to believe in unbelievable stuff, most people will come and start calling you a internet warrior.. anyway, I’m 200% with you here. They saw a photo, there are no accurate measurements, no width measure of bones but they can go conservative and state 110-130tons 😂😂 such a fkn joke! Might as well believe in Godzilla’s too. Another one that is very funny is that new basilosaurus, can be 80 tons but can also be 375 tons… a good example here:
      Dunkleosteus - was supposedly the size of an orca and now is not even half that size. And mind we have fairly good evidences. Now imagine using a photo to state that the owner of that bone is 110ton conservative and the biggest dinosaur ever.. it’s laughable

    • @jpintero6330
      @jpintero6330 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Team Bruhathkayosaurus ! 💯

  • @benettoniscool
    @benettoniscool 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bloody great video! Astounding

  • @seanledden4397
    @seanledden4397 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Super fun and super satisfying compilation. Thank you!

  • @anthonyhall7019
    @anthonyhall7019 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Im subbed, your content is very nice and as good as ben g thomas or any of the other good paleontology TH-camrs! Very nice keep up the awesome work!

    • @TheVividen
      @TheVividen  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Welcome aboard! Thank you!

  • @petrfedor1851
    @petrfedor1851 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I love how it started with batshit crazy massive and ended with straight up kaijus.

  • @PotooBurd
    @PotooBurd 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is so informative!!! Fantastic paleontology; I love this kind of content!🌻🌼🐝

  • @T1mpossible
    @T1mpossible 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Excellent work 👌

  • @martymillions4270
    @martymillions4270 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I just saw your video on Cope rex and how nobody was talking about it possibly being the biggest T. rex so I wanted to ask if you know anything about the Triceratops “Willard” which is another under the radar specimen that’s the biggest triceratops found and was over 2ft taller than other triceratops. It was 3.6 meters tall just under 12ft and was briefly displayed in Hong Kong’s big 8 exhibit. A video on that would be just as intriguing as copes rex!

  • @uhvoiidTV
    @uhvoiidTV 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    first youtube vid in a while that actually makes me wish I had some friends to show some cool dinosaur stuff

    • @TheVividen
      @TheVividen  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Now you do! discord.gg/ecTk3wK8pt

    • @FelidaeEnjoyer
      @FelidaeEnjoyer 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TheVividen Plugging everything possible into every hole, huh? Subbed

    • @user-rw4yi2xw5i
      @user-rw4yi2xw5i 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@TheVividen I m can tell you one my question:If we can discover biggest sauropods ever,likely they will be titanosaurs

  • @gogogomez51
    @gogogomez51 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Love the video man!

    • @TheVividen
      @TheVividen  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @steveleamont
    @steveleamont 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Amazing creations!

  • @Ornitholestes1
    @Ornitholestes1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    I’m confused now. Are these average masses, or averages of mass estimates for the largest known specimens? And if the latter, then what criteria were used to decide what mass estimates to include, and what mass estimates to exclude? (e.g. I assume that old 80 t mass estimates for _Giraffatitan brancai_ were not included, despite being peer-reviewed, due to being clearly ridiculous, but where do you draw the line what to in- and what to exclude?). Also, if it is the latter, you are missing the Oklahoma Apatosaurine material, some of which indicates an animal easily in 70-80 t territory.

  • @mister_maim
    @mister_maim 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Everything over 70 tones most likely is a strong overestimate

  • @alexanderren1097
    @alexanderren1097 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Growing up, I remember Brachiosaurus being considered the absolute biggest dinosaurs ever. It’s crazy how Brachiosaurus is now considered midsize

  • @minimalbstolerance8113
    @minimalbstolerance8113 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Okay, while I love everything about this video, the thing I love most is that apart from the "King killer" class (and possibly the Worldbreaker class although I'm not sure) you named all the classes of megasauropod (knowingly or not) after oversized war machines from Warhammer 40k!

  • @tobiasedwards2643
    @tobiasedwards2643 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I’m so happy that 2 of my most favorite dinosaurs are among the biggest being, the Brachiosaurus and the T. rex.

  • @andreafleming9022
    @andreafleming9022 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Absolute best video about thise titans.However the are someone you missed i think:Australotitan cooperensis 72 tons and 30 metres long.

    • @TheVividen
      @TheVividen  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Man, I was looking into Australotitan as a contender for the video but I couldn't find any peer-reviewed mass estimations. Are you aware of any?

    • @andreafleming9022
      @andreafleming9022 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheVividen Bruh ...... they are right above you.Those are the first estimates ,more recent one put this colossus at 29 metres and 65 tons .So it is still massive.Also what about Barosaurus.

  • @Xmaster-bh8wb
    @Xmaster-bh8wb 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In a new study, Scientists have found out that the spinosaurus could grow to heights about 10 times taller than the argentinosaurus!

  • @Ammeo
    @Ammeo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    awesome info

  • @sabrogaming4602
    @sabrogaming4602 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    It’s just so hard to comprehend just how something so gigantic once roamed the planet

  • @vladline1882
    @vladline1882 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I think Brachiosaurus recent reconstruction is slightly larger than Giraffatitan

  • @billfrehe6620
    @billfrehe6620 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good video, thank you.

  • @albinodino2005
    @albinodino2005 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    What about Australotitan cooperensis?

  • @johnstojanowski8126
    @johnstojanowski8126 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The reasons that were given for the immense size of sauropods are all contributing factors. However, the major factor was the lower surface gravity on and near Pangea. As my theory ‘The Gravity Theory of Mass Extinction’ explains, a surface gravity gradient around the globe occurred when very large surface mass on the Earth moved to high latitude causing the Earth’s core elements to move off-center. When this happened megafauna developed. The same thing happened during the recent Ice Age when ocean water transferred to high latitude polar regions producing the ice caps allowing the megafauna (e.g., mammoths, giant ground sloths, etc.) to develop. Those megafauna disappeared when the polar ice started melting, sending the water to low latitude and moving the displaced Earth core elements back toward centricity.

  • @anthonyhall7019
    @anthonyhall7019 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Also i love your sense of humor...that foot joke lol 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @LoveFor298Yen
    @LoveFor298Yen 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yes! “Imperator Class” made it!
    Great video.

  • @alxtheguy
    @alxtheguy 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    7:10 "Its own foot of course it wasn’t weird" Next up on Sauropod research: Evidence of Sauropod foot fetishes

  • @dynojackal1911
    @dynojackal1911 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    If the K-Pg extinction hadn't occurred, I'd wager that India, Southeast Asia, and China would be home to giant sauropods as big or bigger than Bruhathkayosaurus.
    What do you think the maximum size for megatheropods have been, both terrestrial and fully aquatic (had Spinosaurus survived long enough to evolve into new genera)?

    • @raylopez99
      @raylopez99 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      1000 tons says another comment, the maximum weight a skeleton can handle. Imagine 10 blue whales (or five of the largest blue whales ever recorded) running down the street to meet you since they recognize you as their mother from the time they imprinted when they were the size of a small chick. Just a small misstep by them and they would unfortunately squash you.

    • @Doomguyhunter1
      @Doomguyhunter1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      The max theoretical size for a bipedal megatheropod would probably be in the 15-tonne range, and for an aquatic one, I don't know, but something like that could get very big.

    • @zainmudassir2964
      @zainmudassir2964 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      India would've been island in Indian Ocean

    • @dynojackal1911
      @dynojackal1911 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@zainmudassir2964 I mean in an Alter-Earth Holocene

  • @evilcrashbandicootthetouho2753
    @evilcrashbandicootthetouho2753 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice video

  • @Macaf4r
    @Macaf4r 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dinosaurs lol love them. Got a video on Stegosaurus?!?

  • @fefferryerr1818
    @fefferryerr1818 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Hi there! Is the brachiosaurus the best pet megasauropod for you? We'll rate it by 5 categories which are handleability, care, hardiness, availability and upfront costs.

    • @TheVividen
      @TheVividen  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Clint?

    • @fefferryerr1818
      @fefferryerr1818 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@TheVividen I thought it'd be something he'd say, he picks animals there is no way anyone would have as a pet, like a bush master. He'd likely review dinosaurs as pets if we ever brought them back.

    • @TheVividen
      @TheVividen  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@fefferryerr1818 Clint is an absolute homie. My dad has done quite a few collabs with him so I've got to hang out with him a few times. He's an all-around awesome dude

    • @fefferryerr1818
      @fefferryerr1818 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@TheVividenHe's the best, no doubt.

  • @archosaur_enjoyer824
    @archosaur_enjoyer824 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    The fact that bruhathkayosaurus is a bit bigger then Argentinosaurus is just
    *INSANE*

    • @suricata1993
      @suricata1993 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It isn’t, it is an estimative from a picture… not reliable at all

    • @dallomarde5756
      @dallomarde5756 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Patagotitan was bigger

  • @May-hem
    @May-hem 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    New favourite channel, as a Dino girl as a kid who wasn't allowed to take paleontology at uni this is like crack straight to my veins.

  • @JonathanLopez-bk7rx
    @JonathanLopez-bk7rx 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love your ranking system. a little 40k'ish in there?

  • @maozilla9149
    @maozilla9149 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    could you do mega hadrosaurs someday in the future?

  • @cryoking7303
    @cryoking7303 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Im surprised Australotitan didnt make it on the list considering its size being comparable to Dreadnoughtus.

    • @eybaza6018
      @eybaza6018 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He probably forgot...what a shame

    • @szodoss7764
      @szodoss7764 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Was even larger.
      True, that the humerus of the australotitan was no longer than that of the dreadnoughtus, but it's torso was much longer, and it's femur was both longer and more robust, than that of the dreadnoughtus.
      So was heavier....

    • @simonhajnal
      @simonhajnal 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​​​@@szodoss7764 Exactly.
      Well, the torso of the dreadnoughtus was relativly short, compared to its thigh and upper arm.
      It was around 4,5 meter.

    • @szodoss7764
      @szodoss7764 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@simonhajnal Dreadnoughtus is one of the most overrated sauropod, maybe, because his skeleton is more complete, but australotitan and huangheititan have to should be on this list, above the dreadnoughtus.

  • @JLAvey
    @JLAvey 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I saw a supersaurus display in Museum of Ancient Life. It stretched from one end of a good size room to the other.

  • @chriswatson7965
    @chriswatson7965 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You make a good point straight away, sauropods repeatedly produced genera that reached over 40t in weight from a variety of different lineages. There's something very basic in the design that allows for such size. Likewise ancient theropods repeatedly reached the 5t size, and yet none of the modern descendants come close. I've no doubt that the largest have yet to be found.

  • @Tymdek
    @Tymdek 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Are there any length estimates (or even known body lengths) on any of these? Because while I get wh people use mass as a measure of "who is the biggest", I think it's not as intuitively understandable as, well, size... (see e.g. blue whales, which are mostly not that much bigger than the next biggest fin whale but vastly heavier). Also I'm curious what's the current understanding of sauropod length and posture, especially with diplodocids and titanosaurs. I remember a few years ago when I was a child there were some estimates thrown about that _Argentinosarus_ might have been over 40 m long

    • @TheWigglergler
      @TheWigglergler 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Supersaurus was 40+ meters long as an adult (assuming the giant vertebrae come from it and not Barosaurus). If size estimates for Maraapunisaurus and Bruhathkayosaurus are correct, they are about 35-40 meters and 37-45 meters long, respectively. Argentinosaurus is most likely ~33m.

    • @Tymdek
      @Tymdek 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@TheWigglergler Thanks! Does that mean that if the vertebrae are from _Barosaurus_ it would scale similarly?

    • @TheWigglergler
      @TheWigglergler 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@Tymdek You're welcome! If the vertebrae are from Barosaurus, the animal would be 45-48 meters.

    • @Tymdek
      @Tymdek 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@TheWigglergler That's...a lot haha. Can't even imagine an animal that big, even if it's "only" _Supersaurus_-sized

    • @asshat1607
      @asshat1607 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      please don't confuse size with length. size is mass/weight, not length. a damn anaconda is pretty long but hardly weighs anything for how "big" it is.

  • @aaronjimenez7825
    @aaronjimenez7825 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    So, the giant barosaurus is now supersaurus again?

    • @suricata1993
      @suricata1993 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Indeed

  • @MEGAbrandon281
    @MEGAbrandon281 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Learning about sauropods makes me think about two things
    1: How did they sleep sense they always had to be eating to grow fast
    2: what amount of blood pressure would be required for such a huge animal to be alive

  • @sjoerdjuxta
    @sjoerdjuxta 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    awesome cool big dinosaurs

  • @Xenosaurian
    @Xenosaurian 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    8:20 I'd say the three layers (collectively three meters deep) containing the animals were deposited relatively quickly during the Global Flood and the animals stayed in the area and simply died at different times.

    • @theangryholmesian4556
      @theangryholmesian4556 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There was no Global Flood. C'mon now dude. Santa Claus isn't real either.

    • @Xenosaurian
      @Xenosaurian 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@theangryholmesian4556 Yes there was. Why do you deny that?

    • @theangryholmesian4556
      @theangryholmesian4556 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Xenosaurian Because there's no evidence. Here I'll shoot you a link to Aron Ra's comprehensive debunking.

    • @theangryholmesian4556
      @theangryholmesian4556 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Xenosaurian th-cam.com/play/PLXJ4dsU0oGMJP95iZJqEjmc5oxY5r6BzP.html&si=_ZuFkApvv1m-llii

    • @Xenosaurian
      @Xenosaurian 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@theangryholmesian4556 I suppose I wouldn't expect anything better from you than Aron Ra. Unfortunately for your argument, we have a great multitude of evidence, including the entire surface of the planet, covered in sedimentary strata deposited by water and being rich in exceptionally preserved and extreme quantities of fossils, most of which are marine, gradually advancing from shallow seas to inland areas and today being found uplifted to the highest mountains.
      There's also the fact there's enough water on the planet to cover it to a depth of at least 3 km if the surface were sufficiently flattened out and there being legends of such a global flood from different cultures around the world which shares many core elements. Of course, the most affirming evidence is Jesus Christ affirming it as a real event, with him demonstrating himself to be God through his resurrection before countless witnesses and igniting the sudden spread of Christianity.

  • @TheGBZard
    @TheGBZard 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    This video is really cool. Also about the Patagotitan I don’t think it was a memorial treck as sauropods were probably pretty stupid. Very small brains for their bodies and most of their energy went towards fueling their bodies

  • @EarthshakerOnamazu
    @EarthshakerOnamazu 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    it makes me so mad we aren't ever gonna be able to see these guys bro

  • @beksan9775
    @beksan9775 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Props to Chase Stone for capturing this epic dinosaur picture back in the Jurassic days 🗿

  • @prehistorichero2755
    @prehistorichero2755 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Imagine if megasauropods are still alive today, and started wandering through towns, accidentally destroying houses, crushing cars and squishing unsuspecting people in Godzilla fashion.

    • @james-bx4wr
      @james-bx4wr 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I guarantee you that if dinosaurs were somehow alive today, they'd soon be extinct due to lack of food or due to human eradication

    • @prehistorichero2755
      @prehistorichero2755 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@james-bx4wrUnless we keep them in sanctuaries or zoos for their safety. Just sayin’.

    • @justapillow2443
      @justapillow2443 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@james-bx4wr Nah bruh, if people can keep tigers and lions in their back yards, you know there's that one rich mf that bought acres for his pet brachi he "rescued"

    • @ferociousrazordino3581
      @ferociousrazordino3581 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@james-bx4wr no lel

    • @james-bx4wr
      @james-bx4wr 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ferociousrazordino3581 ya lol

  • @LoudSunshine
    @LoudSunshine 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The algorithm leads you to places only an autistic mind can comprehend...

  • @QueenMasumi
    @QueenMasumi วันที่ผ่านมา

    The miguel O'Hara when he said "canon event" that caught off guard. 💀

  • @danielrenowski9977
    @danielrenowski9977 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Witam super interesujący świat Zauropodów,pozdrawiam...

  • @spider-man695
    @spider-man695 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Can you provide me how you got Brachiosaurus at 42 tonnes? I used Fabio Alejandro's Giraffatitan as reference and I got Brachiosaurus at 77 tonnes using isometric formula.

    • @LazyOldFusspot_3428
      @LazyOldFusspot_3428 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm also baffled why the B. sp. specimen might be speculated actually be Camarasaurus instead of Brachiosaurus...

    • @spider-man695
      @spider-man695 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@LazyOldFusspot_3428 No no I'm talking about normal Brachiosaurus altithorax which is ~25 meters based on Gunnarbivens

    • @LazyOldFusspot_3428
      @LazyOldFusspot_3428 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@spider-man695Is Brach A. really bigger than Giraffa?

    • @spider-man695
      @spider-man695 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LazyOldFusspot_3428 Hmm
      Giraffatitan is 21.43 meters long and ~50 tonnes. Brachiosaurus is 24.81 meters and ~77 tonnes.

    • @spider-man695
      @spider-man695 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LazyOldFusspot_3428 And the Potter Creek Brachiosaurus (using 26 meters) is 89.2 tonnes. If the Recapture creek Brachiosaurus sp. (Which people think might belong to Camarasaurus) really belong to B.altithorax then it would be around 104.5 tonnes. I think people have good reason for not accepting the Recapture creek specimen as Brachiosaurus because it's unusually too heavy for a Macronarian. I would stick to 77 tonnes.

  • @cemgns
    @cemgns หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Spiderman at 4:07 ?

    • @purplemage4974
      @purplemage4974 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Was looking for a comment that saw it too :')

  • @justiceisserved3298
    @justiceisserved3298 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Props to the guy who went back in time to weigh these dinosaurs 👏🏻👍🏻

  • @kadourimdou43
    @kadourimdou43 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Is there a realistic maximum size, based on what’s physically possible, and what food availability would allow.

  • @user-jc5eg7zp5t
    @user-jc5eg7zp5t หลายเดือนก่อน

    Disappointing reality

  • @AnoNYmous-bz2ef
    @AnoNYmous-bz2ef 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    They were rulers? Really? What rules did they implement?

    • @kingofprehistory7851
      @kingofprehistory7851 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      1. Food=mine
      2. Touch me=one way ticket to leg show
      3. Speedrun 24/7
      Perhaps these would be ze rules

    • @raider1_163
      @raider1_163 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      The rule of Don't fuck around me to found out

    • @PrivateSchemers1
      @PrivateSchemers1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Hmm, you call them "rulers," yet I don't see any numerical demarcations... how interesting... 💀

    • @platypus2141
      @platypus2141 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Shut up lil nigga

  • @ZeFroz3n0ne907
    @ZeFroz3n0ne907 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    "They hatch small but then explode."
    *Baby Sauropod hatches, Allosaurus comes up to eat the baby, baby looks up at Allo*
    *BOOM!* 💥*Mini A-Bomb goes off*
    David Attenborough: "And that, is how the dinosaurs really went extinct."

  • @Adminium21
    @Adminium21 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ah yes. "We've found a single fossilized bone, or maybe even just a footstep. Time to draw up exactly what this animal looked like based on almost absolutely nothing.

    • @y0url0calb1n
      @y0url0calb1n หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You do realize that its multiple bone and multiple skeltons to make a new species right?

  • @suricata1993
    @suricata1993 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    To me, Mamenchisaurus and every sauropod after argentinosaurus are not really that big. At least, without further evidences, I’m taking their sizes with a huge scoop of salt. We already make so many exaggerations with good remains and skeletons, imagine how many errors are being made with footprints or single vertebras.

    • @suricata1993
      @suricata1993 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Imagine seeing a picture and say confidently “hm that’s a sauropod, most probably 110-120tons in a conservative side” 🙃

    • @ferociousrazordino3581
      @ferociousrazordino3581 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That's just how big the bone was

    • @suricata1993
      @suricata1993 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ferociousrazordino3581 I understand that, but we have so many examples:
      Dunkleosteus just got a massive downsize. Spinosaurus went from bipedal 17m to 14m stork like. A giant barosaurus was never a thing, it was supersaurus all along. A fragmentary jaw from a giga cannot prove that it was 6% bigger animal than the holotype. If with way better evidences we can still make measurement errors and so on, how can we expect or accept accurate measurements form a photo? I understand the concept behind it but it is dubious to say the least. A photo cannot give you a 110ton conservative estimate. Too thin of a evidence

    • @ferociousrazordino3581
      @ferociousrazordino3581 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@suricata1993 i mean yeah it's very possible that it would get downsized in the future provided we have better material and etc ( i dunno how that happen, but anyways )but that doesn't mean that its completely dismissable. It's definitely also a possibility that these estimates are right and yes 110 tons IS CONSERVATIVE for what we know about it right now, that's literally the minimum possible size for the thing going off what we have.( the max being 240+ t ) Yes, animals have been downsized in the past, but many animals have also been upsized or found to have lived up to their giant sizes when more material was found later. Also keep in mind that we're talking about larramendi and paul, people who are known to downsize animals and go for the most conservative ranges. If they're confident in this estimate that means something. Not only that but the methods used are superior to the ones that have produced grossly exaggered masses for other extinct animals in the past. 20 ton spinosaurus wasn't really consisent with other estimates at that time anyway and the estimate came from a flawed method ( skull regression ) while this estimate for bruhathkayosaurus comes from better methods as out ability to estimate masses of extinct animals has only gotten better and better. Downsizes and etc have become less common over the years. Obviously it still happens ( Dunkleosteus ) but saying that an estimate like this is completely false or impossible because other animals like this have been downsized in the past is really silly.
      Basically, could it be wrong, yeah totally but that doesn't = it being pure speculation thats 100% incorrect, because this is the best we can do at the moment

    • @suricata1993
      @suricata1993 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ferociousrazordino3581 totally get what you are saying! But still, this numbers are not believable. Every sauropod we have from good remainings have struggled to reach the 60-70 ton mark. Dreadnaughtus, the most complete titanosaurus we have so far, almost full skeleton found, was initially supposed to be the heaviest sauropod that we accurately could measure, at the time, numbers were around 60 tons. Now is around 40-45tons. A 110-240 ton sauropod doesn’t sound realistic, just the margin of error there of 130 tons is almost double the size of an argentinosaurus, the biggest dinosaur we know of. Should I say the 2nd biggest now? These numbers are no way near accurate.. how could they be, scaled by a photo that ressurged out of nowhere form a material that doesn’t even exist anymore? It’s like believing that story of Kelly slater that a fisherman saw a salt crocodile from a mile away and was stated to be 10m… even deep blue, the supposed biggest great white shark that was seen/filmed, national geographic tried to measure it from photos and comparison with objects on photos and they didn’t come with an accurate measurement, it’s a estimate from 20-24ft.. it’s not reliable at all

  • @tongatapu7325
    @tongatapu7325 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    No Sauropod ever exceeded 80 tonnes. I will die on that hill.

    • @Dr.Ian-Plect
      @Dr.Ian-Plect 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Stubborn ignorance.

    • @tongatapu7325
      @tongatapu7325 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Currently we have no conclusive evidence for 80+ tonne sauropods. On the other hand, we have several conclusive fossils for animals around 70 tonnes. @@Dr.Ian-Plect

    • @Dr.Ian-Plect
      @Dr.Ian-Plect 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@tongatapu7325 Right over your head; evidence doesn't have to be considered here! You made a blanket statement;
      "No Sauropod ever exceeded 80 tonnes."
      - much like the blue whale, it can't be stated 'largest animal of all time', only 'largest animal known'
      - you simply don't have a basis for "No Sauropod ever exceeded 80 tonnes"
      End of.

    • @tongatapu7325
      @tongatapu7325 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Dr.Ian-Plect
      You argue semantics now? I'm not even a native speaker of this language.
      Until definitive proof is presented that shows I'm wrong, I will hold onto my statement.

    • @Dr.Ian-Plect
      @Dr.Ian-Plect 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tongatapu7325 Add arrogant clown to stubborn ignorance. The semantics are EXACTLY your flaw in your statement.
      Muted.

  • @ayoubalrfadey3031
    @ayoubalrfadey3031 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So much speculations and estimates

    • @dologongpoloponobonotongpo235
      @dologongpoloponobonotongpo235 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      this guy only cares about clicks

    • @AgroAcro
      @AgroAcro 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@dologongpoloponobonotongpo235He wants to share our current knowledge. Those estaments are real estaments and he did say they were more speculative.

  • @Zorro9129
    @Zorro9129 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Why is size based on mass and not on length, height or volume?

  • @Distix-uz8qr
    @Distix-uz8qr 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    But spinosaurus was the largest dinosaur 😡😡😡😡

    • @spider-man695
      @spider-man695 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You're in Colossal squid's server?

    • @Distix-uz8qr
      @Distix-uz8qr 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@spider-man695 yeee

  • @AifDaimon
    @AifDaimon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    6:37 a dreadnought, WITH LEGS.. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

  • @CookieDragon-sr8yw
    @CookieDragon-sr8yw 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There is a candidate species for the Broome Sandstone Trackmaker: Australotitan Cooperensis, known from two partial skeletons and two isolated bones, the first of which was unearthed in the Eromanga Basin in 2004. Weight estimates vary drastically from 23 to 81 tonnes.

  • @user-ol7bt4wp1j
    @user-ol7bt4wp1j 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One must imagine the size of a sauropod held in captivity with how much food we would be able to give them.

  • @kitten-whisperer
    @kitten-whisperer 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Most of the time when i think of dinosaurs, i think "yep thats a dinosaur" but once in a while it hits ke that they even existed at one point. Like, how? Howndid something so large just exist? Its wild.

  • @Alberad08
    @Alberad08 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just: wow!

  • @wulfgreyhame6857
    @wulfgreyhame6857 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I would have liked to have seen the age/stratigraphic level of each one. Interesting though.

  • @seogabonotjah6555
    @seogabonotjah6555 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    next ceratops or the armored like stego saurs and ankylosaurs

  • @Manny4Life948
    @Manny4Life948 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Here’s an interesting thought: these dinosaurs have some of the biggest competition with each other, because of their need to find so much food.