Canadians tired of 'tip-flation,' support higher wages for servers, poll suggests
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- A new poll by the Angus Reid Institute suggests Canadians would rather see servers paid more and get rid of tipping altogether. Dawn Chapman, the owner of Toronto's Lazy Daisy Cafe, says she thinks it boils down to how much servers are being paid. 'We could cut out tips no problem, but we'd have to increase the minimum wage,' she said.
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Tipping culture in North America is absolutely obnoxious. In most countries around the world, tipping 10% would be generous or sufficient. But here 15% might get you a dirty look.
I tip 15% for decent/satisfactory service and if they give a dirty look or bad attitude then it'll drop to 1.5%.
@@Royan1900 calculator loser
18% in France
Many countries do not have tipping culture
@@maribellelebre6809 In France the tip is in the price. Only foreigners tip there. French servers get a living wage.
You earn a tip, you don’t demand it!
It's not the servers. It's the corporation agenda, we pay the wages, instead of them. Just like packing your own bags, and now doing their cashier work, Free labour
@@wavelength7503 or getting rid of the cashiers and forcing US to cash ourselves out and not give us any discounts for doing the work of the business where we are shopping.
And why are we being pushed to give 15-18% MINIMUM on take out orders!
oh you poured me a coffee out of a thermous and turned an ipad around, and you want a 20% tip? kick rocks.
👏👏👏
Tip the mechanics, plumbers, mailman, doctor, McDonald’s worker while we’re at it. This tipping is getting ridiculous
Server once told me "if you can't pay tips, don't eat out". I took that advice and I am happier than ever. Everyone is happy.
And if he does not like to be a server...he/she should do a different job.
Food and drinks are mostly overpriced anyhow.
@@sonjagatto9981 Exactly!....
@@sonjagatto9981 whether they like the job or not is irrelevant , they should be paid a decent living wage and people need to stop insulting and looking down on servers and treating them rudely and like crap . You dont treat bank tellers or cashiers or mechanics or hairdressers etc like crap and they are not expected to be treated like crap so why are servers expected to ?
I never tip. I am sick of the tip bullying. I just stay home and eat at home so I don't waste my money
That's the point, it's tip bullying.
I totally agree !!!
I no longer eat out and only cook at home also. I won't participate in this system.
I am sick of it! People don’t tip in Europe! I am getting downright resentful of tipping for mediocre service!
This is not so. Perhaps in parts of Europe, but not all.
They don't tip in China either and the services a thousand times better than Canada.
And therein lies the problem. What you consider mediocre or excellent service is totally subjective. Some people expect their server to be conversationalist and circus performers, while others simply like an attentive - but not overly so - server.
And it's also amazing that you miss the point of this discussion. The fact remains that if servers and other employees from different service based industries get a wage boost because of some sort of ban on tipping then you'll be paying more regardless of how you think of the service you received.
Personally, I can't remember a time when I was so offended by the service I received that I hesitated with a tip or gave them a bad tip. Usually, if I have a complaint it's the food or some other thing that is completely out of the control of the server. The fact that you're "sick of it" and "resentful" of having to tip leads me to believe you're one of those entitled and downright awful customers that servers dread.
I haven't tipped anyone for anything in over twenty years....if you have a problem with your wages go talk to your employer...I m not tipping you for doing your job
@@JJUnohu Good for you. That's called being a cheapskate, and an a$$hole. I mean, at the same time, if everyone was like you no one would work that job for minimum wage and the restaurants would have to pay higher wages and increase prices on the menu. Either way you're going to end up paying more. But have fun for now...
I have been a generous tipper my entire adult life, but have reached my limit. Why is a tip suggested when I purchase a bottle of wine at a shop, or lunch at a food court in a shopping mall. Last summer I hired a junk removal company and the bill was $350. It was a hot day and the two men repeatedly mentioned how much harder it is to work in the heat. I gave them both cold sodas and when the dreaded payment machine was given to me one of the men said "tips are always very appreciated." I was caught off guard and pressed the 20% tip button. I live on a disability income and I tipped $70 for one hour of labour !!! I was so angry with myself. Enough already!
Pay cash
remove tipping completely. make the wage right. increase the price of the meal. That's ok. in japan, no tips. service are great! i dislike to think about tipping at all
I don't eat out anymore. Tired of paying other people's bills.
I love it when the tip suggestion on the debit machine starts at 20%. I don't bother going out as much anymore.
Let’s also address that tipping is showing up for an over the counter service now too. Why should I tip someone for handing me a bagel?
My thoughts exactly!...
Tipping used to be exclusive to dine in restaurants with a server who you tip for good service. Now fast food restaurants are asking for tips when they are just doing their job. The problem is that it's a form of "bullying" because if you don't tip, you get a look or a fear of bad service next time. Even grocery store self checkouts are asking for donations which I cannot stand.
Like everything, it existe because the capitalist find it convenient. I worked as a waiter, and the owners would give very low wages, and expect you to make it up with tips to a decent job. This removed the major risk of hiring more staff for them, as most of the waiters salary comes from tips.
The idea that tipping should reflect service quality is almost forgotten
Barely eat out at all but my last two outings was a mom-and-pop deli in Kitchener and Subway in Oakville. Both had new debit machines that start off with a "tip window" before you can tap. We've always tipped restaurant servers well but it's getting increasingly frustrating to subsidize unreasonably low wages.
Correct. At the end of the day we ain't tipping servers but business owners...
The owners take a fee off of the tip for themselves
It's NOT because I'm being asked to to more. It's because they EXPECT me to pay more. Businesses are grifting us for subsidies.
People are finally starting to wake up and realize that if employees of multimillion dollar businesses need tips? Then the business is both shirking their duty to their employees and asking their paying customers to pay more to help out the employees that they should just be paying a living wage to in the first place.
Thats exactly the point. We're tipping business owners, not servers,
You do realize that these companies charge a fee for the employee to cash out their tips
Tipping only half of the issue. The other half is that the people who are being asked to tip, are also not making anymore money, while meal prices have gone up by almost 25% already. So tipping is just more money out of their own pocket, for a job that the person is already payed to do.
Servers are paid less than min wage .
Trust me. A lot of people who make base wage and tips make over $150K per year. Don't judge a book by its cover. These people are richer than you think. Do you think they'd be there if they didn't make enough money?
I just did the math to get 150k annually. Assume they work 5 hour shifts, like many restaurants, 5 days a week at minimum wage. Their wage income would be about 20k. So that would mean 130k in tips. Over 52 weeks assuming no vacation would be $2500 in tips weekly, or $500 a shift. Seems a little high, but I’m not sure how much servers usually claim on taxes when it comes to tips. Likely not all of it
The vast majority of servers dont make anywhere near $150k.
smdh
I don’t understand tipping culture in Canada. My first job was as a server in the US. I received less than half the minimum wage because tips were expected to cover the rest. Most of the time, I ran my butt off and earned far more than minimum wage. But if there was an odd shift with no business, I claimed the tips I actually earned and the restaurant topped up my wages to ensure I didn’t work for free. I wasn’t expected to pay anyone else in the restaurant either. As a result, I have always tipped servers well. When I learned credit card tips were being skimmed by employers, I handed cash directly to the server who did the work. I left little for coffee or take out because those tasks should not be done by someone getting half the minimum wage. I understand paying a driver cash for the service of delivery when I receive hot food in edible condition quickly, not when I place an order. But more and more businesses expect tips, and I don’t know how to calculate a a fair price for anything anymore. I’ve tried to figure out how to tip in Canada, and I’m just confused. The service is generally lousy in comparison to back home, and I don’t understand why I should give 20%+ if servers are getting full minimum wage, or why my tip is going to anyone but the server. If I can afford the food, but not the tip, I order take out in order to skip the service, but I hear I’m still expected to tip. It’s crazy making. A servers job is to give service. What is the service with take out? No one is platting or serving my food or beverages, getting refills, clearing my table and washing my dishes. Makes sense to have a fee for take out and to charge a bit more to dine is because of the added cost of that service. Post a clear price so I can decide if I can afford the meal/coffee/service in my budget without having a degree in accounting to add up all the various added costs.
I agree. Spoke with someone working at Subway. Once the tip goes through the manager/owner is in charge. I asked how it all worked, she said they only get tips every 2 weeks & it is not even close to what she kept track off. Also when I was a server I relied on my tips after every shift. If I needed gas & milk I just stopped after work. Not 2 weeks later. I do not like tipping on take out coffee & such. The idea of fast food was just that. We are not being served, we order, they get it together & we leave. In comparison to sitting down for a meal or grabbing a coffee mean a totally different service. When do we have to start tipping a cashier at the grocery store?
@@katmac5609 LOL! Give it time! We might be tipping cashiers soon!
@Liz Tew I sure as heck not! And businesses are wondering why so many order online (with free shipping of course) 🙃
@@katmac5609 LOL! I just ordered something online (for free) earlier today!
@@liztewliztew I did yesterday. Lol. Great minds....
It’s getting way out of hand, there’s even an option to tip on the pin pad machines when picking up my takeout… are you kidding me….
here a tip. pay your employees a living wage or stop operating a business
The comments of the restaurant owner are wrong and misleading. She says meal prices would go up 15-20%. If you increase salaries by 20% and the share of labor cost to total cost is, say 30%, the effect is only 6%. The increase in her revenue may put the shop in higher tax bracket but there is no way the meal price rises 20%. Also Canadian tipping culture is horrendous compared to Europe. In many European countries you tip only when the service is outstanding and usually by 10% over the tax included price.
If tips go to the serving staff then it’s a more direct way to increase their pay. You tip $10 and it goes to the staff. Raise the bill $10 and it goes to the owner who then pay a portion of that to the staff,,, maybe half.
if minimum wage workers outside the service industry don't get tips why should they be forced to tip someone else who makes the same amount they make when they only get minimum wage themselves. personally if servers want tips then they should provide superior service or not get a tip as it is optional and fast food doesn't deserve tips as you are not getting full service
i came up years ago with a one-size-fits-all solution (for myself): i just stopped eating out at places, and i go get my own take-out orders.
i became sick and tired of leaving consistently 15% tips AFTER receiving poor service. tipping should be given for excellent customer service, not as an entitlement or used as a subsidy for a business that's either unwilling or unable to pay a fair wage in the first place.
i get that some folks enjoy eating out and that's their prerogative. and if you're happy with the service and want to give a good tip, have at it.
That may be a solution for you personally, but not a solution for society.
This worked for me too. What also works is leaving a bad review for a restaurant that asks for a tip especially for takeout orders.
It’s about the transparency and social pressure. It’s not the customer’s responsibility to compensate employees because a wage is too low.
In Europe the tips are totally optional, servers receive a living wage and meals are cheaper than in Canada. So, that argument that restaurant prices must go up 15 to 20% is just b.s. Pay your employees decently, expect them to belong to a union and stop expecting customers to cover your exploitation
Not true.
In France it’s obligatory at 18%
Service can also be horrible in Europe. A littpe tipping can help
Yes because if you can't keep a business open and pay your people a living wage then you shouldn't be having a business in the first place.
@@maribellelebre6809 Tipping is obligatory in France? Which parts? I have spent a good amount of time in Nice and Montpellier. At many of the restaurants that I visited, I tried tipping but the tips were refused.
In Japan, tipping is considered an insult because it implies you think the server is being paid so badly that you're giving them extra money out of pity.
So glad it isn’t just me! I visited Canada this past summer from Australia and couldn’t believe how toxic the tipping culture had become. After picking out my own takeaway beer at a brewery I was prompted to tip (I’d dined in and tipped already). Canadians can be incredibly naive when it comes to this. Live and work in another country where tip [and tax] are included in the price of things and you’ll wonder how we ever adopted such an illogical system. I have no problem seeing a higher price on a menu knowing that’s the real price. There’s no consolation in seeing a lower number when that isn’t the true price at all.
Call me cheap but i became way more hesitant to eat out since tipping has became more inflated and i’m sure more people are going to feel this way too if this issue is not solved and ultimately hurt small restaurants in Canada
I know Waiters and Waitresses at the Keg that make more then people with MBAs.
And they don't claim a whole lot in income tax. It's an insecure living but one that can afford you a decent income with only interpersonal skills to make it relatively lucrative.
And I bet they feel entitled to that
For good reasons never mess with the people that literally cook and serve you your food it is a bad idea IMO
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It’s not a tip, if 15% is EXPECTED, you’re supposed to pay right off the bat because they showed up to work! It’s also beyond me why the tip is a percentage, no more work was involved whether I ordered stake or a club sandwich. Prices on everything have gone up and now they are putting tipping up on some machines it starts at 18% or even 20%. The price went up so the tip is more, you don’t also make the % more. I literally feel like someone jumped at my throat and is strangling me when I see this… it’s just beyond appalling. It really takes the joy out of going to restaurants, because it is simply disrespectful. Someone might only make 15$/h themselves and they have to pay that just for having food brought to the table on the one occasion they go out to eat for an hour? Where I come from you’d normally round it up, not just change, but to the next reasonable sum and only leave a tip beyond that if there was an issue or some outstanding service. They do make a wage after all, there are a myriad of people that live off that wage doing much more or much worse.
This is is spot on. This is also why I don''t tip BEFORE the work has been completed. Like in the UberEats and such apps where they ask for tip before I've even seen what the service is going to be like. I'll only tip after and if you don't want to serve me because I won't tip beforehand, then I don't want you to serve me either. It's not my responsibility to pay for your job and no one is forcing you to do that job so work it out with your employer or find another job/industry. If the servers can't make a living, then they need to band together and force the industry to change. And if I continue to tip this way, I'm just enabling the system to continue and get even more ridiculous.
I had a boss in the late 80s that used to like eating out and he would NEVER leave a tip at any restaurant. His thinking was that there are a million choices of places to eat in the city so his tip was that he chose THIS restaurant to eat at. I can see where he's coming from.
I’m also getting tired of tipping. I don’t tip the cashiers at the grocery store, or other retail shops. They’re also providing a service at the same pay as restaurant staff. I know servers that make $50+K a year.
That's because serving is a hard job. It's extremely physical and takes a lot of skill juggling tables and different problems, and all the whole putting a smile on your face. And you make it seem like 50K is a lot.
But yeah, servers should just get a flat living wage commensurate with job so they don't have to beg douchebags for tips.
@@owenmclain3327 Those servers wouldn't be doing that job unless they got tips. So it's either the restaurant builds the tips into the menu so they can pay their servers $20-25 an hour, or you tip. It's one or the other.
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We know that Tim Horton's employees are on minimum wage. There's no doubt about it. Yet, no tip expected. Same for the cashiers at your neighbourhood supermarket. what kind of people demand tips? think about it for a second.
Same with employees at just about any fast-food chain.
The Healthy Butcher at Eglinton and Avenue Road has the tip in their debit/credit machines. It came after they renovated during the pandemic and were acquired by Fresh City or something. I only buy burgers there from game animals. It's not good they included it. The butcher at Longos don't ask for tips.
It's starting to creep into fast food, for example if I get a slice of pizza from any chain the tip prompt is there. Only giants like McDonald's and Timmys don't seem to have it yet.
Business owners take advantage of tipping culture to hire workers at minimum wage. When we tip, we r tipping business owners, not servers.
I don't think tipping should be necessary, nor should it be legal.
I loved eating in Europe. In Rome we ate late afternoon. Our server was a career waiter… incredibly professional. At 5pm, there was a shift change, en masse, and the server coming on mid-meal was just as attentive. Give me this in a heartbeat over the underpaid, stressed, staff we have here in Canada.
I agree the current environment in the North American service sector is abysmal.
"Give me this in a heartbeat over the underpaid, stressed, staff we have here in Canada." The service you get in Canada are a third class service. Let their employer to pay them a viable salary and to leave the customers in peace. We have nothing to do with hiring and paying the employees, when we go to eat out we want to have an enjoyable time eating out. Why should we be burden with the employees salary? Please give me a break! Pay your server a viable salary, and make sure you pay the Canadian TAXES or close your cammer restaurant!
Lady, the majority of the reason why a lot of people don't eat out is because they have to tip. Not only because most people can't afford to. If you eliminated tips I'm sure you would get more business, not less.
Why are we being told how much to tip
and if you dont tip, they give you bad service, roll their eyes, make you feel guilty, may even spit in your food
What surprised me is when I walked in to get a coffee, when I went to pay debit there was a option of 3 different tips alternatives.
It was a coffee shop made for take out! I was shocked that I was expected to tip someone for pouring coffee into my own take out cup.
They didn't even need to put sugar or cream in it!
I worked for over 12 years in the service industry & would never expect or want a tip for pouring coffee.
I find the 'choice' to tip a suggested amount is ridiculous.
We have a problem with tipping everywhere! We are expected to tip everyone. What about a tip for supporting local business? I won't be surprised when this happens. Here is $2 for walking in the door. BTW it took more work for me to park, walk, place my order then carry the product out then it did for the employee to take a step to grab the coffee & fill up my cup. That was it. I put the lid on & left after paying & used my own soap & water to wash my cup.
Everyone works hard in any profession not just service workers. Bringing a dish from one place to another isn't rocket science and the wages reflect that, have the boss pay more, at the end of the day that'll just be passed onto the consumer as higher prices, consumers will foot the bill one way or another.
Being a server is much more than bringing a plate of food to a customer. There is baking, prepping, cleaning. And as a server, I can say that not all customers tip and I'm good with that. As long as they had a wonderful experience, that's what matters. Plus not all customers are easy to deal with and can become rude with us and some abusive.
@@tinaprevost1852 If you don’t like your job, find another. I have 19 years of formal education and nobody is tipping me for doing my job.
to everyone that will say "if we pay high wages, then everything will go up" news flash! everything keeps going up, except a living wage! we have been saying this for decades
Well said!
You must be expected to work jobs that pay living wages. If you want more money get a job that pays more. It might involve working in harder conditions such as outdoors or more physically demanding or furthering your education.
Get rid of tip, pay servers properly, increase meal prices and let clients decide if they want to eat out or where and how much they want to spend their money on meals. Eating out should be a pleasant experience, but now customers are faced with this hard decision to make , how much they should tip.
How about restaurants start doing something few restaurants have been doin, have a sign that says "no tipping required, we pay more than minimum wage" reflect the cost of their price tag. I rather play an honest game, not that a server handing me the machine and telling me "how was my day?". It's actually disrespectful
I agree
Honestly tipping was always a way for businesses to keep wages low. It's not fair to the employees and the customer. Business owners often find way to skim tips from employees. It's just a bad system. If the business cannot afford to pay staff, then clearly there's something wrong with the business model. People that do leave tips do it for the employees, but often owners take a cut and customers really hate to see that someone that worked hard for a tip has to share with an owner. Back staff should be getting a wage that doesn't require tip sharing. Essentially everyone deserves a fair wage.
I've thought this should be the case, It shouldn't be on the consumer to ensure that the employee is paid a living wage.
minimum wages is 15.50$ And you accept the job under that pay lass then minimum wage it’s not my responsibility to make a difference for you , stop accepting the job doesn’t pay minimum wages problem-solving I don’t like the tipping option of 15 20 30%
I reduced using services that are expecting a tip. Taxes and tips are making eating out too expensive on a regular basis
Servers would rather the tips over the wage, tips don't get taxed and generally, servers in restaurants and bar and grills make a lot more than you'd think. They can make over $100 an hour on good nights especially in higher end restaurants.
Tipping in general should be abolished, we don't get tipped for doing our jobs, so why should they?
Hit it on the nail !
Tipp-inflation is getting out of control. If I tip, any amount should be appreciated. But these days, employees act as if its a requirement.
Tip is a complement for a good service. Complement. So it’s obviously optional. Employer must pay the salary to the workers. Customers can thank for the good service by tipping if they think it was really good.
Optional??? Try it. They make u feel guilty if u dont tip... Its tip bullying clearly.
I'll often put back a purchase when I see they have one of those white swivel screens that throw the virtual tip jar in your face and often START at 18%, when 18% used to be for great service. I've even seen a tip request when buying tires.
They already got higher wages! Server minimum wage was already abolished in Ontario and yet tip presets have gone up to 25%.
Corporations have pushed to have tips increased because corporations do not want to pay a living wage. Most restaurants tip 5% back to kitchen and support staff.
why doesnt the government say hey, if you drop tips then you get a tax cut
Tip are on total which is ridiculous 🙄 because you are tipping on top of taxes it should be on subtotal if at all. Zero tip should be the cultural movement
Tipping needs to go! Employers get away with paying staff less than the bare minimum!! I would rather pay an extra $5 for a meal if I knew the staff were paid a living wage. Another thing people who are on disability don't really have a disposable income and when we have to pay an extra 10% or more on purchases every time we need to buy something.
Because the government allows them to having a wage system exclusive to restaurants.
stop this now, canadians are exhausted of having to go through a guilt trip everytime they want to buy a bottle of water (we are quite nice and generous people). what is next? tipping the self checkout machine at shoppers? tipping at the LCBO? OR tipping the gas pump? what about tipping the air canada pilot for not crashing the plane? important to note that these tipping prompts often come on these square readers, more money spent through the reader more money for square. so not always the case of service people asking too much.
Tipping culture in North America is absolutely obnoxious. There shouldn't be any tips at all, it is their job. I work my job too, but I don't ask for any tip?
stop copying america, which is a clown show
Clown show?
@@nicholasthompson7690 yes
While you're at it, you can let go of Britain's hand.
@@shauncameron8390 america is the one using the british imperial system instead of metric so america should let go
here's another kicker. I used to work for a Thai Express where the tips entirely go to the store owner. One day I was in a bad mood and confronted him. His reasoning was that because he pays my salary (minimum wage), tips should go toward him as gratitude for employing me. I questioned the integrity of the service industry ever since. Eventually, I came to terms that minimum wage with tips or not will always be minimum no matter how much it raises. I had enough seeing delivery men being paid less than minimum only to rely on tip to make it up. I heard enough from fellow colleagues announcing the next raise as if it was supposed to be good news because it only takes the next inflation to set back any new minimum. Transitioning toward a job that pays well above minimum that has nothing to do with tip culture and minimum wage was the best way out of all this!
Heck, Walmart has started prompting to tip their drivers and finding the link to reject isn’t clear.
Seriously!?!?!?!?
Include it all, even with servers.
Employers need to pay living wages.
Tipping is blackmail. If you don't tip then you have to worry about them tampering with your food next time.
Not to mention, when servers get their tips, they are usually substantial and that is income they are most certainly not declaring on their income tax.
Tip requests are a sign that the job doesn't pay enough. If employers paid a living wage even outside of waitressing, there would be no need for service workers to continue prompting and even begging for tips
If the restaurant pre populates the tip with high percentages (15-20-25%), I tend to avoid them in the future. 10% is my standard to say thank you, and recognize good service as in the original intent of recognizing someone that goes over and above expectations. Time to send a message with your wallet. Change only happens if you action a plan. Might be a good thing in the long term to have more restaurant bankruptcies, effectively changing course in this unsustainable tipping practice. Better yet, stay home and cook, have pot luck parties and enjoy a gathering over a homemade meal with friends.
so if we lose small restaurants all we will have left is either fast food or big chains thats it, great idea
In a few years, tips will be 50-75%
@@redred222 only the strong survives, that’s capitalism. I eat out 2-3x a year and learned to cook
My wife is paid almost minimum wage just like the people who get tips... but nobody ever tips the front desk. I don't ever get a tip. I had a pizza place try to force a 30% tip on me. Why? Because you had to hand me a slice of pizza? The real problem is our economy keeps growing, overall wealth goes up, but most people are seeing dimes where the 1% are seeing dollars. How about we add a 30% wealth tax to everyone making 1 million+ per year?
Shocked over the cost of meals going up 15%? Vs the 30% tip?
One problem with tipping is a lot of owners take a cut.
This owner's staff watching this right now... "why wait, just pay us more"
I have been in this industry for 20 yrs plus ….. tips need to be earned… not expected by servers.. if the food is good … tip 5 to 10 percent.. if service is good tip an additional 5 to 25 percent… tip is EARNED !!!!
Iam a full believer in this.. no offence but younger generation not trained properly and EXPECT TIP .. regardless of level of service..
Meaning..
anticipating refills on beverages.. guests not having to ask
Knowledge of menus and ingredients in dishes and how dishes are prepared (part of service)
Timely manner of everything..
Smiles .. polite conversation..
Common sense (not so common anymore)
The art of service is being lost 😞
i dont tip and dont feel bad at all
You shouldn't be going out at all then.
@@firefox39693 How about paying your employees better?
Are you Mr. Pink?
Taking advantage of hardworking minimum wage servers. Classy
@@orcwarrior4265 You can tip people despite your ideological position on that. Read his comment again, and tell me you still don't feel an ounce of compunction.
I’m sick of it. Sometimes I just don’t buy things at all because of the tip culture. I just wait till I get home to eat or drink. Tip on one cup of coffee to go? Give me a break. Then the server treats you like crap if you didn’t tip. So I just don’t buy the coffee at all, to hell with it.
Use cash
And thats how businesses will learn
All good points but to be honest, it's not tips that are keeping me out of restaurants. Even without a tip, I'm paying $17-20 for a breakfast which only a short time ago I was paying $12 for and which I can make at home for $5.
I get it, inflation's a killer and I feel sorry for the proprietors but the reality is that restaurant dining is simply not worth the hassle anymore.
Exactly!....
If servers now get minimum wage why are we expected to pay 15% or even tip at all now unless the service was outstanding? Mandatory tipping needs to stop. Restaurant/service industry shouldn’t use inflation and covid as excuses for us to tip more to help subside their wages. Unfortunate truth is if you need extra money either find a higher paying job or get a second or third. I used to work a part time then juggled 3 jobs for a bit. now I’m at one job thankfully. Lots of opportunities out there, people need to look
Way more complex than that.......
@@donaldlyons17it’s really not though
Tipping is a remnant from days of Slavery. I never tip using the apps or online. I always use CASH only to tip the delivery drivers if the service is good / or they are delivering on a rainy/snow day.
After I eat at a restaurant, I will pay the bill, then if the server wants to wash my car, I will give them a tip.
I'd be happy with an all-in price on the menu, tax and tip included. Because I know I'm going to pay those anyway
Yes, I like how Australia does it. The store tag shows exactly what u pay, you don’t have to guess what the actual price will be when taxes are added
Tipping encourages excellence and has many positive effects. Of course demanding 25% as of it was due is a different matter.
@@cjasmin1960 Could add 15-18% to the menu price and feel free to give more but never expected. Some restaurants already add auto gratuity so just make it that price upfront.
I really don't oppose tipping for sit-down restaurants when the service is good. But I can only laugh when the debit machine prompts me to give a tip to the Subway worker who just spent 90seconds making a sub-par sandwich.
I am tired of tipping... I don't tip anymore .... I cancel my uber eat because of the tipping ....it's was crazy .
A tip is a gratuity not obligation. Of course most servers are always going to pick the tip based salary. Most of them don’t declare that income in a tax return
I stopped tipping, it has to be banned . there is so many things wrong with tipping...
If any restaurant is forcing you to tip more than you want to, then don't go there!!! The consumer is in charge, not the restaurant. Grow a set people and take charge of your own life!
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This video barely covered the central issue. Restaurants have tried the no-tip thing but suffer due to menu prices appearing higher than their competition. It just hasn’t been competitive to try to implement this. To be implemented it would have to be mandated from the top down. While we’re at it, why not include tax in the stock prices of everything like they do in Europe.
Why not stop following Europes failing policies that are socialist communism
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Failing because they ran out of other people to tax.
@@shauncameron8390 Yes, the money always runs out
2 great ideas
I can't afford it. Simple. How do you expect the restaurant to survive on less sales if tell people don't come if you can't tip 20%? What about the loss of sales from customers
Maybe it’s time to pack a lunch, and eat at home!
Tipping is a U.S. practice rooted in U.S. slavery. After the civil war many former slaves found work in hospitality, railroads, hotel etc. They were usually not paid a regular wage and slept in a provided stable/shed on premises or nearby. Whatever money they had was what patrons were willing to give or "tip" them. The practice continues in the hospitality industry which Canada imported in the form of lower wage structure and tipping. I do not tip because it reinforces the practice. It is designed to keep its workers in poverty and dependent.
The greedy restaurant owners made the ‘minimum wages’ as their ‘maximum payment to their employees.’
Is there anyone stopping restaurant owners to pay their employees $20/hour and providing amazing food and excellent service to their customers without forcing them to pay tips? Restaurant owners can adjust the food according to their expenditures.
No business owner on this earth running their businesses in the loss.
If two restaurants of equal stature were next to each other, and one had higher prices but has a posted policy that no tips are accepted, and the other restaurant was cheaper but expected tips... I will always choose the no tip restaurant. Wish a major chain would try it, and see if it takes. What I feel is that restaurant owners will pay more for leases and food supplies, but when it comes to labor, they expect the employees to suffer. I'd rather support an owner that pays their people rather than depending on me to fill the gap. In the end, we all know the revenue comes from customers, just charge the real rate.
Rent is too high for most small business owners, that is at the root of some of this problem, not sure how that's going to get solved, just like the housing problem.
Perfect example of how entitled North Americans think they are.
The only people who work full time in a restaurant are the cooking staff and they don't a tip. They only make $5 more than the college student waitresses whi work 4 nights like 5 hrs and clear $1200 a night.
In Sweden the base wage is enough so it’s not so aggressive in different niches, even if it’s common to give 10% at restaurants.
We need to stop giving people a bonus just because they are doing the job they were hired for. Either that, or we just tip everybody for everything so that it's fair!
Abolish tipping.
I always tip at full service restaurants. I don't tip if I just buy a cup of coffee. Although, recently I went up north to a friend's cabin in Michigan. We went out for dinner. I paid. When she brought me the card machine thingie, my choices for a % tip were 20% ~ 25% ~ 30%. I thought WTHELL? I gave her a 20% tip. Are they nuts...30%? 😕
Yes, the guilt percentage screen that you need to bypass before paying. I won't do it.
Pay cash
@@blademan4089 Debit is cash. I get your drift though. ✔️
Don't forget to preemptively tip your pilot or else he will drive your plane into a mountainside or into the ocean 💸💲
We need to be like Japan/Aus/NZ as far as I know. End tipping in all industries.
Even before the pandemic and inflation, I had learned to live without dining out. Not so hard, really. Go out for walk instead of stuffing the pie hole.
A tip is an extra gift to the server to reward them for giving good service...Poor service, no tip...It's an incentive for servers to please their customers...Mandatory tipping negates the whole purpose of tipping...A server can be rude and give terrible service and still get a tip...Patrons are forced against their will to reward poor performance.
Required tipping in this country is ridiculous and makes me not want to go out at all ! So the restaurant and even coffee shop industry has lost this client completely due to tipping obligations ! I happily eat out in Europe and Asia, where tipping is earned by rendering good service !