The Debate on Tipping Workers
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.ย. 2024
- Dr. Phil talks with guests who have different opinions about tipping or giving gratuity for various services, such as a haircut, a manicure, or dinner at a restaurant. Walter admits he never tips and is completely against the entire tipping system. Jackson and Theresa, who have been working as servers, both say they believe in tipping others for a job well done. In fact, Jackson says he can even spot a bad tipper! Dr. Phil puts him to the test just to see how accurate his skills are. Then, meet Naam and Bryce who both say that modern tipping in this country has become way too aggressive. And, Etiquette Expert and Founder and CEO of Beverly Hills Manners Lisa Gashé gives Dr. Phil and his guests her views on tipping. (21057)
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Here in Denmark it's very normalised that you DO NOT tip.
Good
I imagine Denmark has a strong communal culture that incentivizes good service as a default rather than as extra effort.
@@ocarinaplaya That is very true! We are also known to have one of the best welfare systems / law systems etc.. You literally get paid about 1700 dollars after taxes meanwhile you are on education (which is also free)
All healthcare etc is free aswell.
Also, for example, if you get caught with 100 grams of cocaine - you get maybe 4 months probation. (Where in most states in America, you would probably get 4-5 years in a hardcore prison)
Also in Denmark, you get solo cells, of which has own shower, bathroom and you are allowed to have a TV and a offline gaming console.
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When I watch documentaries about other countries healthcare systems, prison systems etc, i truly am happy that I live in Denmark..
However we have a problem, since the 70s we have gone from about 0.5% foreigneers to almost 20%.
Making us a multi-cultural country and most of the people are from poland, romanian and arabian countries.. and they bring nothing but trouble to Denmark and they take hard advantage of our soft law system and easy obtainable welfare.
Australia doesn’t tip too
In Caribbean they don't tip
I completely agree with the guy in the leather jacket. I think the main stream opinion goes against what he says but if you think about it, he is correct. The problem is not the tipper. The problem is the restaurant, not paying the workers enough and they want us to compensate the difference. Just pay the workers a fair wage and train them to be polite and everybody wins.
If we have to tip ,the shut down the restaurants
Workers can declare their tips if they're below minimum wage and get paid the difference. They won't do it because then their tips are taxed.
Don't sit at my table!
@@dionnesolomon2679 don't you sit at my table either
Even if a server made $20 bucks an hour no one would want to be a server. Serving the the worst job ever. Go to McDonalds
These companies should have the heart to pay their employees a little extra… They shouldn’t have to rely on the customers “tip” to survive.
Yeah they should pay us extra but you can eliminate the tip system. Some people make really good money on it
Do you understand that restaurants run on about 2-3% profit margins? Also I was a server I made about 400 dollars a night in rural Iowa.....so tip your server or let's pay them 15 dollars an hour(which would also decrease their wage DRASTICALLY) and then enjoy paying 70 dollars for a burger....
@@WhyFacetattoos these younger generations ARE MENTALLY challenged in actually understanding how SHYT works!!
@@WhyFacetattoos Something sus about how so many servers are opposed to eliminating tipping. And there will never be a situation where restaurants will spike up a burger to $70 to make up for a $15 pay. Nice exaggeration. In N Out pays their employees $17 per hour and sells burgers for less than $3.50. It’s so annoying to have to tip for every damn service, so much of my income goes towards tipping.
@@WhyFacetattoos If a restaurant is making such razor thin profit margins, they probably deserve to go out of business. When I worked in food service in college, the 7 bedroom mini-mansion the owners lived in while running a small pizza place suggests they were much more profitable than what you're claiming. In fact, the small handful of restaurant owners I've known all lived pretty lavish lifestyles compared to anyone else in the area.
Owners should pay their workers. I don’t understand why they won’t.
Exactly. And servers shouldn’t work at jobs where they earn 0$ then turn around and complain. That’s a personal choice. I wouldn’t do it. Walmart pays better. I get we all need grassroots movements to direct change, but they aren’t doing that and Walmart is across the street. Stupid.
@@brandib2821 I agree, if there was a shortage of waiters/waitresses then they would maybe start paying them actual agreed upon wages
@@brandib2821 Walmart might pay more, but servers are *making* WAY more than Walmart employees. And at the end of the day, I don't think they care that the money is not coming from their employer. Servers like the current tipping culture. I almost never hear any of them wanting to replace it.
@@brandib2821 Then don’t be one of those people who complain about having to wait longer at restaurants when there is a staff shortage. I only have server jobs for the tips, along with the majority of servers. No one would want to work as a sever for a regular wage.
You’re seriously saying that the middle class is somewhat responsible for the wages of servers how is it that in Europe you don’t hear severs crying about tips or places like Japan weird.
What’s frustrating to me about tipping culture is that tipping is expected even when you are given bad service. Why is it my job to pay your salary after receiving shitty service? The system is broken, and I am very sorry. The servers deserve much better than this, and should be getting paid fair wages. But the issue should be with the employer, not the patrons.
Exactly and if you wish to be a repeat customer you must tip or risk getting spit in your drink by a disgruntled server the next time
@@kenziej4301 the threat of food tampering is a pet peeve of mine. I've had terrible customers come in before, but I'd never consider doing anything to their food. Meanwhile we have numerous threads of people openly saying they'd spit in food for perceived wrongs.
If I had the know-how I'd have a website called black apron that would be a research tool and archive to prevent those types of people from working with food ever again.
@@kenziej4301 if that’s the base of your ethics I now understand why other people aren’t willing to hire you and this is the best job you can get.
I’m a nurse and even if I’m offered a tip, I have to decline because it’s not ethical to take gifts from a patient, even if they offer. Many reasons for this but essentially it could show favoritism.
Stay as long as you can running food from a chefs hot plate to the table, I understand now that it seems to be the extent of what you people are capable of in a job and mentally. You aren’t mature enough to work in a job that actually matters if that’s your mentality. Sick. I hope you find psychiatric help soon.
@@kenziej4301 OMFG🤮 That's why you don't go to cheap restaurants with ratchet employees!!!!
@@brandib2821 😭🤣😂🤣😂
This has always been a strange topic for everyone outside the US. I would tip something if I like the service but I would not be paying their salary instead of the proprietor 😄 this is insane. Yet you guys keep arguing 1:1 - customer:waiters. How about: Don't open a restaurant if you can't afford to pay your staff.
Good point - it is insane and no one questions it because that's the way it's always been, no one has ever thought to question the restaurant owners for some reason
Wrong. When you dine at a table service restaurant the server is working FOR YOU. Restaurants in European countries, where tips aren’t expected, add a service charge to your bill. You are paying the server either way and that’s a good thing. You should ALWAYS pay people who perform labor for you.
@@natcurry960so, if i work for google, i'm working for YOU to be able to enjoy youtube videos. Should you tip me?
@@natcurry960 😂😂😂 no they don't. They've tried to introduce a service charge in some restaurants. They don't tend to do very well. Tipping is for idiots who don't know how to manage their money.
@@natcurry960 I don't care if they raise the price to include the service charge but don't expect me to tip u
I just don't like the way it's presented as an obligation. I'd rather pay a higher menu price knowing the employees are getting a more decent base wage and save the tipping for actual gratuity for exemplary work.
I like tipping on merit. The people that implicitly demand tips tend to be the ones that cry the hardest about "muh fair wage"
Exactly, combine the best of both systems.
If you want to tip someone.
Tip the cook, the busboy, the janitor.
Why? They all get paid more than $2.13 an hour
Plus in some places the bus boy is the server lol
@@spookytrash oh good then the waitress should apply for that position and stop complaining
@@spookytrash they only get 2 bucks an hour because they make so much in tips, not the other way around. Most servers are making 2 to 3 times what the cooks make. Even more on busy nights.
All 3 get paid more an hour than servers, so screw you.
This lady is a great example of going after the messenger and not the message.
Exactly.
Holy shet!
I just noticed, she would be a great target for domestic violence by the given terms of her handling her own dependency!
30-40%?! I always thought 20% was the high mark.
I noticed that too. Every year that “suggested” tip seems to get higher and higher. I remember being shamed into tipping 25% instead of 15%, and I’ve gone forward tipping 25% on services. Now this dude is dropping the 30-40% Absolutely Not!
50%
50/50 is fair
Actually... used to be 15%... then someone somewhere decided to make it even more Greedy with "15%-20% is customary".
Ask anyone born before the 2000's, it was just 15% before
I tip on a grading scale for service. $7 is average for just myself. I start at $5 and increase or decrease the amount on whether my drink hits bottom before a refill or if my food arrives cold or if I see my server on his/her phone.
Never tip... Especially if they chase you down and beg for it.
Cheapskate
In France they pay their servers good wages. It's actually rude to tip their.
In Australia there’s no tipping too
That’s great but the discussion is about the US
If everyone stops tipping than the restaurant will have to pay more because servers will quit. Boom, problem solved. It's up to customers to stop this sherade.
Exactly!
It's funny how the mere suggestion she takes it out on her boss instead of customers, terrifies her
Acting like you're entitled to a tip and the entire idea of tipping culture as it's practiced in the US is the most ludicrous thing.
Yeah. It has gotten out of hand. I am not against tipping wholesale, but if you are using tips to LIVE, and getting mad at customers ripping you off for something that is supposed to be optional, then there is a problem.
She said it herself “it does kinda suck that it falls to the consumer”. She knows it’s a crappy way to get paid, yet she still DECIDES to do it. And then complain about to outcome
she knows she gets overpaid for menial labour work and she simply doesnt want that to stop
Get another job that pays more then
Sounds like you order uber eats and never tip
@@alldayubum even if that was true, it’s not a crime.
@@keithsanford1374 so is dropping a deuce at a guest house and not flushing or washing your hands doesnt mean its not moral
If servers don’t like their tips than don’t work in a restaurant.
If you don't like getting skipped...don't go. Yes.. obviously these are simple answers. But what is the incentive to be faster and better if you get paid the same?
Yes in other professions we call those promotions, raises, and bonuses. All provided by the employer. Not the charity of our clients.
@@jeremiahanderson614Tipping is basically bribery. The rich guy who tips 50% will always get better service the next time he comes than the poor guy who could not afford tips. In fact they probably spit in his food the next time he comes.
We live in America you can choose where you work...
I do tip, but I am getting increasingly resentful of our tip-dependent consumer culture here in the USA. Every damn service requires a tip, and it’s gotten to the point that people turn down a request (such as for Instacart) if they feel the tip isn’t large enough. The man chasing the restaurant patrons down to DEMAND a tip is absolutely ridiculous. Of course it’s the decent thing to do to tip, but it’s absolutely ridiculous to chase people down for something that’s in essence OPTIONAL. His entitlement to harass them for money is mind-blowing.
A part of the problem is the reliance on these luxury services. Unless you're disabled you don't need instacart or someone else grabbing your groceries or delivering your take out.
I agree, Zara. When you place the burden and expectation of being paid a livable wage through the customers through tips, and not the employer, then it is the waiter/waitress that is in the wrong. That customer doesn't employ you, you are employed by the restaurant to give decent to good service, tip or no tip. The incentive to give good service is keeping your job.
These people who are wait staff become it because they heard that you can make $50-$100+ a night in tips, and instead of taking the time to think how unreliable it is making their living off of something that is optional, they misplace their entitlement on customers for either not tipping or giving a poor tip instead of placing that ire to the company that ACTUALLY employs them.
The entitlement to get paid extra for basic good customer service that the restaurant hired and and is paying you for anyway is mind blowing.
@@tarag7292 If the server doesn't make the equivalent of minimum wage in tips for their total hours worked by the end of the pay period The employer by law has to pay the server the difference to equal minimum wage... A tip is only a Thank you for an amazing dining experience NOT an obligation at all... I just don't understand why a person won't tell their server as soon as they're seated "I'm Not going to Tip you" it's that easy instead of waiting until it's time to pay the check!!!! Y'all Never do that though🤔 Why??
@Liam Miller Do you know what the definition of a Bribe even is😂🤣😂🤣
@Liam Miller You're just too Embarrassed to say you're Not going to tip when you sit down😭🤣😂🤣😂 You sound like the type of person who complains when Nothing is wrong just to get something for free too😂🤣😂🤣😂 No one's going to give AF because there's Amazing ppl who make up for ratchet ppl like you💯
for me it isn't about not wanting to tip, it's about the fact that the servers deserve to go to work and know that no matter what happens they're coming home with a liveable wage. They should not have to rely on random customers to pay their salary so they can get their bills paid and put food in their fridge.
Most servers make more than minimum. The servers that don't get many tips either aren't in a good area or should seek a different industry altogether.
@@ocarinaplaya they actually are usually paid massively below minimum wage. I'm talking about five dollars an hour or less. employers use tipping culture as an excuse to not pay their employees well. Tipping culture started out as rich white men literally bribing wait staff for better service.
@@abby-we5tb That would be illegal lmao
@@abby-we5tb You're confused. Most servers, after accounting for their tips and underpaid wage, make more per day than they would on just a "livable wage" alone. The servers that do not make enough in tips to equal minimum wage must report their earnings to their employer in order to recieve their compensation. This is the main problem in the discussion where people are misled into thinking that servers cannnot or do not make more than 2.15/hr when that isn't the case in most states.
Unless you're only looking at the hourly and consider the tips to be completely separate from the wage, in which case the solution for the servers that feel strongly against it is to not work in those restaurants. A business cannot succeed without labor. We've seen with the recent "great resignation" that the no-skill workers still have the power to increase their earnings by being more discerning with where they will apply their time and labor rather than giving that power to the employers. Supply and demand at work.
@@ocarinaplaya which is the problem. They should not have to rely on other people's opinions of how they did their job in order to get their bills paid and have food to eat.
“You could not go out to eat. This would be an issue and we wouldn’t be here right?” Yeah and if no one goes out to eat, how are you even going to be employed? Lol. The attitude of these waiters/waitress of forcing to be paid by consumers is crazy. If that’s the case, tip anyone who is giving you service in general. Tip the cashier, tip the customer service you’re calling on your phone line, tip the IT person you’re calling to help you with IT things.
believe it or not the system works and people love giving me 20-25 of the bill as my tip. i average way over 20 percent every shift.
im very happy. wdym the attitude of these waiters and servers? thats how they make money. its set its like unchangeable american tradition way of the restaurant world. if you dont agree with it. then dont come eat. you still pay my boss $50 even though you gave me $0. my boss still paying me $2.50. you paying me $0 in order to hurt my boss you paid $50 to. good logic. so much effort just because you dont want to pay extra for good service.
@@shawnknive Find a different job then, not very hard. But you won't, because the current system overpays you. You have no right to get mad at people who refuse to participate in this racket. Do your job and shut up.
@@shawnknive the entitlement of this comment is baffling
Obviously they would find a different job. If no restarauntd existed, they would simply go to another industry
That’s why they are in the other side of the fence.
In my honest opinion about tipping, the only person that should be tipped is the person who actually made and cooked the food since their the one the ones who have to work in a hot kitchen everyday, but that's just me.
Agreed 100%.
The cooks and the other workers are paid more than a couple of dollars an hour, there's a difference, and don't have to run and they have one job not a dozen behind the scenes.
Lmfao they get paid hourly. Servers do not.
@@nikkilove4584 Yes they do get paid hourly actually. Servers get paid $2.13 an hour plus tips and it's the law that servers be paid minimum wage by the restaurant
@Robin Copeland they deserve to get paid more. Cooking is a skilled job, and serving food is not. Some restaurants request tips even though customers are responsible for picking up their own foods.
I dont go out to eat for this reason. I aint paying someone when I cook better than them..... they can choose a different job. They choose to work there
If you cook better than them then that's on the chef, who gets paid. Not the servers, who don't.
Yes, they are waiting on you hand and foot. Get your own. Cook your own. Clean your own.
@@donnawilde2936 we are the only country that makes them rely on tips
@@donnawilde2936 they don’t cook the food. They don’t wash the dishes. They don’t clean the kitchen. They don’t make the drinks. They clean a table, bring food, bring a drink. Are you high?
@@nicolemadden3178 alternatively I have my own two feet. I can retrieve my food on my own and get my own refills.
I agree it would be stressful to be a server yet I don't think we should have to pay their wages. I'm in a field that has to meat others needs and wants, I don't get a tip
Exactly. People don't tip teachers, construction workers, cashiers at supermarkets etc. I feel like a lot of jobs are hard and tiring and you have to put up with nasty people everywhere.
@@len974 I find people tip their teachers with extra supplies, cashiers occasionally get tips in my area. Construction workers aren't around many people and don't usually get the opportunity to get tipped. I find people are pretty charitable, you just need to be in a position to recieve it.
@@ocarinaplaya in my area the teachers are "tipped" in supplies because the district doesn't provide enough (or if they do they're bad quality) materials for the kids. Also the teachers request that you purchase extra supplies before school starts so that theyre stocked up for the school year (again, could be just where i live but idk) The cashiers at both of the Walmarts i worked at weren't allowed to take tips, im not sure if thats a walmart wide policy or just the ones that I've worked at but we were told we couldn't accept them. Either way that wasn't my point. My point is that tips should not be expected or mandatory as a lot of jobs are difficult and people aren't expected to tip. They're given as a token of appreciation for good/excellent service and thats how it should be. People working in the tip based industry should be paid fairly in a way that makes sense, not relying on customers to feel like they NEED to tip.
@@len974 PLEASE don't give them ideas!
@@ocarinaplaya I like how you just dismiss the cashier thing. No, the VAST majority of cashiers do not get tips, it approaches zero. For some reason we just picked a few jobs that we consider worthy of tips, and those people now make way more than they would if they received ordinary wages. And those people would never tip the counter worker st mcdonald's, but run after you if you don't tip them.
I tip but sometimes I don’t like to because the service didn’t seem deserving of it. The only thing I don’t like about tipping is the entitlement factor or getting something for nothing attitude that some waiters/ waitresses have. A tip should be looked upon as an award for going beyond what’s expected. Whereas, I think most of the time now, waiters and waitresses just look at it as something the customer is obligated to do. I don’t like the sense of entitlement that goes with getting paid a tip because you were able to serve someone their food without dropping the plate. That’s it.
I’ve noticed too. If you don’t tip, servers give you dirty looks while you walk out, which is just rude. You shouldn’t be made to feel guilty. If you work in an establishment and have a problem with your wage or think you deserve more….find a new job for a company that pays you properly. Don’t have a job that relys on the public to pay you your wage. It shouldn’t be my responsibility as a customer to make sure you are paid enough to live to your life.
I agree and more often than not these servers are hasty and neglect you and when you ask for a fork they speed away and say one second and return you no longer want to ask “oh an extra napkins” cause they’re “so busy” 😒
if someone stole from you, wouldn’t you give a dirty look too?
as a person with basic moral integrity, i don’t think that a persons ability to afford basic living should depend on how fast they can bring u a side of ranch. even if service is bad, have a drop of empathy and think about the fact that they could be going through something. u don’t have to tip 20% if service is bad. personally, i will not tip below 10%. even if a server is slow and not super friendly, i don’t wanna be a disgusting person and take away their right to afford basic living
Yes, I lived in Italy for many years -- and I always appreciated that the servers didn't ask me, in a forced manor - every 10 minutes, "is everything okay?" Instead, they did their job in a very professional, courteous and respectful manor, and understood how to get their jobs done so they were basically invisible, so I could enjoy my time in the restaurant with the people that came with, as it should be. Additionally, I appreciate the Italian restaurant culture whereby the positioning of your silverware indicates (without speaking) whether you are finished with your meal or whether you are still working on your meal. As a note: parallel silverware on your plate (not touching the table) indicates you are finished, take my plate away. Whereas, silverware leaning on the plate and touching the table indicates you are still working on your food (do not take my plate away). See, no words required to indicate "are you done, can I take that away for you?". Brilliant.
I was stationed in Germany, and I received the same treatment at their restaurants and cafes. They really need to do the same in the States.
Yeah, I hate it when you're in a middle of a conversation and they interrupt with 'can I get you anything else?' I hate that, if I need you I'll call you.
You should work as a housekeeper! No one tips us either.
Or a nurse, or a teacher. Or literally anyone else. The pity part is getting old
@@brandib2821 If you hate it so much, just stay home and serve and cook for yourself ❤ if it’s so easy, do it,
@@itslorinnn I don't mind paying for someone else to cook for me. Just not sure why I also have to give 20 bucks to someone to bring it to me. I would gladly grab it from the kitchen if it were an option.
Tipping is if you want to, it gets pricey to eat out just because I’m not able to tip dosnt mean I shouldn’t eat out?!
Yes that’s exactly what that means. Eat at home.
@@nikkilove4584 ok? You could eat out if you want to
Yep, that is their argument, and it's stupid. You're paying the restaurant for the food and atmosphere. Anything payment above that, especially if it is supposed to be optional, is just extra unnecessary expense. The essential thing is the food and atmosphere. Being waited on is extra.
Entitled servers blaming entitled customers. If they really believe people should stay home rather than tip, you're basically asking for the erasure of your own job. Eating out is a luxury, not required. A waiter that refills drinks promptly and stays off his phone is more deserving of a tip than the waitress who ghosts her tables, regardless if they're salaried or not.
But let's talk solutions. I have a couple of compromises:
1) pay the server staff a wage, but post a sign at the entrance declaring it to customers. That way all tips are voluntary and continue to be merit based.
2) wait staff make commission. Your earning potential is based on how well you multitask and ability to serve customers in a manner that ensures quick service.
3) do away with wait staff entirely and allow customers to pick up their meals from a window and refill their own drinks. Bartenders excluded.
4) invest in service robots that can bring meals to tables.
THANK YOU. Years ago, sometimes my family would go to all-you-can-eat buffets. When you go there, it is completely self-serve. You pick up your own plate, silverware, napkins, food, and drink. No one complained about do-it-yourself service. The only thing the waitress did was clear the table. That was it and they didn't expect a tip. If they got it, they were grateful.
The entitlement of these wait staff gets me. How in the world can you have the EXPECTATION to get paid optional extra money for a job you were hired to do, anyway? Your pay sucks without tips? Yeah, well that is an employer problem, NOT a customer problem. Customers are not you employer.
And even if wages for restaurant went up to $15 and hour, they would STILL expect tips. It's the entitlement that is the problem.
My 1st job as a Bartender I remember asking Why do guests choose to pay $20 per shot when they can just buy the same bottle themselves for $80 & save money!!! The response I got was it isn't about the money they're paying for the Atmosphere!!! I Loved Bartending it was so Fun, flexible hours, & the money was Great AF💯 I was able to meet all kind of different ppl too... Every shift I made sure everyone had a Great time regardless if they tipped or Not... I got hella tips & whether it was a dollar or a large tip I was Grateful because they didn't have to leave anything!!! At the end of the day it Definitely adds up💯
I get both sides of the argument. Like the guy said we are being pitted against one another while the employer doesn’t worry and hikes up prices. It’s a messed up system.
I agree with walter it should be optional , if not then everyone should be tipped, I'm an health care worker and I never get tipped the client's are inclined to tip not even for birthdays or Christmas, it should be banned
@@punkinhoot they made a Point.... Wouldn't it be Weird if Healthcare Workers also started asking for tips?
This is what this has become about... Asking for Tips, for services that are Expected.
The medical field & service industry are on opposite sides of the spectrum when it comes down to tipping though
A person has an obligation to pay for the healthcare they've received... Just like a person is obligated to pay for the food they eat at a restaurant... A person isn't obligated to tip just because they chose to dine at a restaurant... People tip servers as a means of appreciation for Great dining experience not the food
30-40 percent lol. Nope. Go to college and quit complaining as an adult. I always tip but expecting that every time is ludicrous. I give my favorite bartenders and waitstaff Christmas presents in money.
College has never guaranteed a well paying job. Half the people that go can’t even find work in their field.
It's funny a people always start by "I always tip" as if it makes you better.
10-15% max, and that also depends on the bill. Dont understand how percentages has any relation to the price of a meal. At some point it doesn't.
25-40% 😅😂 FOF
“I can give you my boss’ phone number”, uuuh excuse me, You’re the one getting underpaid, not me. Why would you take a job that underpays you and then expect the customer to compensate you, that’s actually crazy if you think about it. 😅
The funny thing is though that he actually offered to call her boss and probably tell him to pay her better but given the reaction she gives to the question if her boss is watching she is simply afraid to step up and demand a better payraise out of fear to lose her job so she rather Takes it out on the customer.
Here we simply have better wages and people still tip so it is possible but americans just love there socalled mandatory gratuity.
@@stefanbrouwer459 I agree, and I have no issue with giving someone a tip because you feel like it. Would I personally do it? No, but I don't have an issue with people doing it. The issue arises when it is expected of me to kind of pay part of your wage in the form of tipping you on top of paying the price for the food and/or drink itself..
I'm a software developer, I feel like I get paid too little by my job, so I expect the customers that buy our software to tip me for the good code I've created to compensate for the wages that my employer is not giving me. That's mind-boggling logic, if I feel like I'm not paid enough I'm either talking to my boss or find another place to work. Punishing the customers for that situation is ridiculous...
I will not tip for someone doing there job. Why not tip me for coming to eat where you work?
Probably going to get lit up for this but whatever. It's not a secret how the restaurant industry works and I don't appreciate having my morals questioned when it comes to tipping. I work in the automotive industry and was flat rate for almost 10 years before I went the independent route. I've had more lost wages due to lowered warranty times and free diagnosis to customers that comes straight out of my pocket along with paying for all my tools which is more or less worth close to $30-35k at this point. I have zero sympathy for wait staff when it comes to tips. Sorry not Sorry. I tip according to the service and experience. Nothing is guaranteed in life and neither are your tips.
I completely agree with that. This must be optional and not at all obligation. I work hard to afford to go out and don't feel like tipping 'cause catering staff in Paris is quite rude .
Seriously though... Servers always use the excuse "i just wanna pay my bills"... Not putting into account, that 15-20% could be a Bill for the customer as well
maybe their bosses should tip them with a liveable wage
Even with a liveable wage no one would do this job !
Meanwhile in Australia, tipping is the exception, if you get a tip, you did a really good job and the client wanted to reward you for that.
Here we actually get proper pay.
Wow how embarrassing running after people who don’t tip lmao
Yea but serving at restaurants, you have to tip out bussers, bartenders, hosts and kitchen staff around 8% of sales so if you don’t get tipped on a large check than the server still has to pay! He said 400$ check so that’s 32$ out of his pocket.
ur not getting STIFFED if someone doesnt tip u...
Right. They are being stiffed by the fact they signed a contract to make $0 per hour. That’s personal issue. Not mine.
Getting STIFFED means the server has to pay tip share out of their own pocket for the non-tipper to eat at their table... Every restaurant makes servers pay a % of sales fee regardless...
@@helenparedes225 then go to your freaking boss and demand a better wage so you dont need to.....
I slave for my plumbing company , I make 15 /hr starting out and it's seriously dirty hard work, I never once expected or received a tip, someone putting food on a table can make 200 or more a day on tips plus their wage ,its ridiculous, im in the wrong line of work
Exactly and in California they get 20 dollars and hour plus 20% tips off every sale. 😂😂😂 And they still complain about income inequality.
Guy in the beginning of the video: “I don’t expect a tip from anyone”
Also same guy: *chases down someone and begs for tip*
I'm European and will never tipp, it's going to be fun to fight the staff at different locations in America when i visit.
She should call her own boss and stop acting so useless
i’m convinced that people who don’t tip KNOW that it’s a shitty thing to do. their “reasoning” for not tipping is just their attempt at an excuse to justify bad character. unless someone is forcing u to pay for something, people are gonna try to find ways around it. people know deep down that not tipping isn’t gonna make a difference in the system or the way servers are paid. it’s just an excuse for poor character.
Lol, I love all these comments of "Just get a different job". Funny thing is many have done just that, and then people like you whine about how slow service is at restaurants because they can't hire enough staff willing to work under such a system anymore. But instead of changing their systems to compete with the marketplace, employers then complain that supposedly "no one wants to work anymore."
See where the problem is now?
Easy solution to that is to give the waiters a proper salary so they dont need to guilt trip customers into fixing their salary.
America tiping is insane..
Nowadays everyone is trying to force u to tip. Like places u don’t expect. I used to tip but not anymore because it’s either the restaurant or the server. Then there will be them servers who tip themselves off your card like wtf that’s stealing
Like the Twitter Users, literally begging for Tips... Just got existing
Tipping is very straightforward in the word, tip, as it is adding something on top. If you've simply done your job idk why you deserve a tip. If you were awesome and went above and beyond average service, I'd gladly tip. Unfortunately we're guilted into it so business owners can have a false cost of operation to drive prices as low as possible to entice people to go there rather than where it's more expensive, I'd rather just pay more for my food to pay fair wages based on the caliber of restaurants:
Fast Food = Entry = Minimum cost of living wage (not minimum wage)
Chains/average sit down = Above average
High End = Highest end of their scale
Super tired of this
You have to ask to your Boss to give you a better salary. The clients have nothing to do with it. Period. Stop begging.
Tipping is not an obligation. It's not my job to pay you your wages. I've worked crummy jobs and got tipped nothing. If you really need a tip, maybe you need to find a different line of work. And I say that as someone who does tip. Tipping is a personal choice.
No way I'm tipping just because I should
No you shouldn’t youre perpetuating the acceptance that waitress earn $0 you are part of the issue
No y’all are completely rude for doing this. Just eat at home. I should just come to your job and not pay you 😂😂😂
@@lorinmccracken7299 No, you have to pay me. But you don’t have to tip me. And not tipping is not rude, asking for money from a stranger is literally begging, pity, and rude.
@@mahir8126 There’s a lot of things in life you don’t HAVE to do. It doesn’t make you less of a garbage human.
Hey! Some wise words to you, my friend: If you go out to a restaurant for the first time, and don’t tip your server/waitstaff for your dining experience, and THEN proceed to continue to return to that very SAME establishment, and continue to never tip your servers throughout your dining experiences there… well…. Remember, word spreads fast in the back of the house of a restaurant, and these servers WILL remember who you are and what you look like… but not only that, you should also remember that they. handle. YOUR. food. before it’s brought to your table and placed right in front you… if I were you? …. You might want to change your tune there a little bit. Just a thought! 😊 Going out to eat is a luxury, no one’s holding a gun to your head and forcing you to eat out at restaurant! Stay home and cook your own food and serve yourself, that way, you’ll never have to worry about tipping (or exhaustingly stressing yourself out over the idea of “tipping”) ever again! Problem solved!
2:24 If you want to affect change and make the restaurants pay their wait staff a fair and livable wage, you need to stop tipping. Tipping is one of those things that can be categorized under well-intentioned idiocy, because it actually has the opposite of its intended effect. Many people, including Theresa here, advocate for tipping because the restaurant doesn't pay them enough, without acknowledging that tipping is what ALLOWS restaurants to do that. The more people tip, the less the restaurant has to pay their staff. You think that 2.13 an hour is bad? Keep tipping and it will eventually reach dead 0, and the wait staff's compensation will be ENTIRELY subsidized by the customer.
Also, good going on advocating for the elimination of your own job by encouraging people to stay home. If I had an employee who was actively telling people to NOT come to my restaurant, I'd have a problem.
Tipping needs to be abolished. It benefits no one. Unfortunately, there are two very big obstacles in the way accomplishing that goal: 1) The restaurant industry spends millions of dollars every year lobbying to keep anti-tipping legislation out of government, and 2) the cultivation of tipping culture. Some of this comes from a lack of understanding of how tipped workers make money, which is hilarious given that 2 seconds into the video and Theresa the server for 8 years doesn't understand that she is guaranteed to make minimum wage, no matter how much or how little she gets tipped (restaurants have to make up the difference if their cash wage + tips don't add up to at least minimum wage).
Assuming good service, if you don't want to tip or cannot afford to tip, you shouldn't eat in a sit-down restaurant. Go to McDonalds. I do think 30% - 40% is excessive, but this non-tipping guy is a cheap jerk.
What you says means nothing lmaoooo
The same reason they won't tell the server as soon as they sit at the table they aren't going to tip regardless how great the service is!!!! They're so proud of not tipping but won't proudly say it in the beginning 🤣😂🤣😂 Great guest make up for the rude ones 💯 why ppl still serve regardless of the BS
You dont get to decide whether i tip yes or no nor do you get to decide if i am going to eat there yes or no.
If you want my good tip then you better earn it and not because you are having a shitty situation financially but because you deserve it based on your service. Waiters in america think they are entitled to good tips which is just stupid and customers have to worry about their food being late or being spit on out of spite if they tell beforehand that they dont tip. If you refuse to deliver good service if you dont get a good tip then you shouldnt be working in the service business.
@@helenparedes225 Ya'll are overpaid anyways, quit bitching.
Y'all really tried to make Walter the bad guy huh? And he's just not. The whole system, like most things in America, needs an overhaul
Thats the whole issue with americans. They make the customer the bad guy rather then the employers.
There is no debate on tipping workers as you are not required to tip.
Can't believe why this idiotic tipping system is still alive. One of the reasons I don't even want to visit the US again. Servers should be paid livable wage by their employers, but somehow they have managed to shift the blame to customers.
The two servers had 8 and 9 years in the industry. If it's a shitty deal find a better one. I don't like servers who feel they are entitled to a tip.
In America you don't even have to be a pleasant person to work in the service industry.
I don't have a problem with tipping if I dine in. My problem now is that they are expecting the tip percentage to be at least 20% post-tax. Normal service is 15% pre-tax. Those debit/creditmmachines are charging post-tax. I only tip pre-tax. I refuse to tip on takeout as well. Tipping on takeout was never a thing when I worked in restaurants. Another issue I have is EVERYONE WANTA A TIP FOR DOING THEIR JOB. People that you would never tip want one like a cashier in a retail store. No thanks. I refuse to add fuel to this foolish new tipping culture. I am tipping the way I always have to those that you were normally supposed to tip.
Those tip percentages on the check are just suggestions. I ignore that, I tip what I want.
In Italy we almost never tip, because the workers are already paid decent money, and the concept of tipping just does not exist, not even for taxi. But if you tip you better do it good...if I consume just a coffee and a croissant then 10% of that is maybe 1 dollar/euro? And this would be seen as insulting, not as tipping.
Let me just stop tipping now to take a stand! - he’s so dumb the system isn’t set up to hurt them it’s setup to hurt us so it’s scumy to just think ur taking a stand by not tipping. Change the system before you go hurting servers
Nah it's the servers job
Nah! Not our responsibility. Go protest the owner!
It's your responsibility then to seek work elsewhere, or protest to your boss
"Hunni shall we go out for dinner-tip" ? (Wife , What's dinner-tip ?) (Husband .. well we can't go out for dinner without giving tips so we might as well not call it dinner any longer . Going out for dinner at a restaurant is now called dinner-tip)
Wife .. na f them
I have never tipped when eating out or when getting delivery, I only have enough for my meal and that is it. Companies should be able the people that help keep it afloat. It shouldn't be up to the customer.
When it comes to food tipping shouldn’t be expected, people NEED food to survive. However if your getting luxuries such as a manicure or a facial or hair you could afford to give the provider a tip
I feel that the entire tipping culture is terrible. At the same time, I feel that servers should be paid for their work. I propose that buyers and servers all agree to a cut-off date in the not-too-distant future when all buyers will refuse to tip anything at all and all servers will refuse to work at all unless employers pay them the fair market price for their work. This way, from one minute to the next, we can rid ourselves of the whole rotten tipping culture, and everyone will know what they will pay before ordering and be secure in the knowledge that they will not be pressured to pay more after ordering.
Hey! I'm Walter from the show. Thank you for having me on! It was a lot of fun shooting this, even if I was the bad guy.
Nah man, you carried yourself well. Have you gone out to eat with the hat on yet?
Thank you for saying what we all want to say Walter, I work a restaurant job!
@@jacksonbrittcomedy I have, it was a confusing experience for the server.
Liar
Just don’t go to the same restaurant too many times. It’s part of American culture that you obviously don’t want to participate in. Our service is over the top and attentive, because our society tends to lean this way. It’s why you pay your realtor a percentage. Only you are benefiting from the menu prices being absurdly lower than if staff was salaried. They’ve implemented paying staff a “living wage” in America and most of those restaurants don’t last, the job is way more demanding than you could imagine. You obviously enjoy receiving good service from restaurants, hence why you keep going and being too cheap to pay literally 15% more. Go work in a busy restaurant for over a year and then I’ll listen to your uninformed, shoddy take. Maybe people in the comments claim to agree with you, but service staff still makes a good living without you thanks to humans that like a good time. ❤
Serving is a entry level job for teenagers and college kids it’s not my fault that you are a full grown adult with the physical ability to work a harder and better paying job
Sadly their mental ability consists of agreeing to make $2 per hour then turn around and complain so I’m thinking there aren’t many other options
In Korea, some genius tried to import this tipping system. Consumers made a blacklist of restaurants and the businesses asking for tip. They all lost customers and had to cancel the system and had to pay AT LEAST MINIMUM WAGES to the workers. Korean delivery companies, similar to Grubhub, lost 50% in profit that they had to cancel the tipping system. I think America should follow that step.
Pay the high cost for food and pay the workers' wages also ?
Sounds like the owners problem. Not mine. Why should I pay his employees for doing an adequate job?
@@LoudaroundLincoln Agree
Lol I worked in restaurants for years in college in Europe. I know they wages here are better, but it’s the easiest job in the world and doesn’t require anything besides being nice and bringing stuff to another table 😂 that one fella calling it a tough job is a fool
The cost goes to the consumer if the server is tipped or not. How do people not understand this? At least with tipping you have an option, otherwise your food and drink will be double, and that you have to pay.
I’m done tipping a server or bartender who only makes $2 an hour. I refuse to tip fast food cashiers, baristas etc. I’ve even had people from movie theater employees, bus drivers and even online checkout pages asking for tips. That is where I smile and hit “no tip” without any guilt.
If you give "good" service, not just normal service, I can tip. If I'm paying this much for my food, it's because I expect a certain level of service. If you just meet that bare minimum, I'm not tipping. After I order, I usually ask, "How long will it take?" If you say a time, and you don't meet it or I have to remind you of our food. You're not getting a tip.
Customers and service crew deserve better from the owners. Customers are getting socially blackmailed into tipping, and service crews are forced to play a game with random strangers to see if they can pay bills this month.
Why would you blame the server for how long the kitchen takes in preparing your food... The kitchen staff gets paid by the hour regardless so why would the server have to take the L because of them😂🤣
@@helenparedes225 Yes, because if you are even a decent server, you'd have a basic idea of how long orders would take. That's the bare minimum I'm talking about.
@@Valkross9 Standard apps should only take 7-12min & Entrees 15-18min/25min tops... Depending how busy & what temp you prefer
@@Valkross9 Depending on the restaurant & how good of kitchen staff is whether your entree's gonna take 15-18min or 45+min...
@@helenparedes225 Yeah, and the server works there, so he/she should have a general idea how long. If the server tells me 30 mins, fine. Just dont come back 45 mins later and say, "It's not yet ready." And still expect a tip.
Its a bad system because if you dont tip people spit in your soup and complain like beaches
Tip to this woman will be so unpleasant
People that don’t tip should have the balls to say it to the server at the beginning of service. See what kind of service they get.
How petty you have to be to not do a job you are hired to do just because you're not getting freebies
@@freddiem6805Giving shitty service is petty but not tipping isn’t petty?
@@Homo_sAPEien how is that petty? Tipping is literally giving donation.
‘Servers make way below minimum wage’
Yo, talk to the owners, not the customers!!!
The career You choose has been set before You arrived ($$$$ per hr)
Servers are NOT entitled to tips !!!
If ya get some great , if you don’t move along
You can always get a different job tomorrow
😂
Exactly 💯
And you’ll be the one to complain about how restaurants are understaffed and slow while you wait on the food you are making your server bring to you.
@@nikkilove4584 lol
If it takes too long
I’ll just get up and leave
Let me guess
Your employer will make you pay for the unserved or eaten food
Your business is dieing
Consider yourself lucky when the general public decide to eat where you work
Soon everyone will just eat at home
Mostly because of the PissyPoorAttitude the entailed servers think they should have
Go find another job if ya don’t like it
I’ll stay home and have Steak and Ribs
Now we are both happy
Lol
Nah dude, you got Karen written all over you. I’d say you’d probably cause a scene 🤷♀️
Also I don’t work for tips anymore, but I did before I finished school.
Do u tip all of the laborers who work on a house project? The guy at home depot? Do u tip fast food workers? Why is it restaurants and delivery? Pay ur damn workers.
Pressure tipping is scam
i dont tipp: deal with it and get a better job
Employers, charge enough so you can pay your servers a decent wage. I'm not their boss, you are. I am not responsible for their wages, you are. You are responsible for charging me enough so I don't have to tip.
The guy is completely right and everyone who expects tipping to be a standard is dumb.
That's crazy! The guy chased foreigners as if they were criminals. THAT'S CRAZY! You should be so fierce with your boss who doesn't pay you enough. Those who don't pay are not the bad guys.
This is Jackson, the server from the video here. I think a commission based system for restaurants would be interesting. Restaurants could jack the prices up 20 percent, then throw servers a 20 percent commission related to sales. However, it would introduce a couple of problems. Servers would push alcoholics to drink an insane amount to raise their commission. You’d be much less likely to get food taken off your check when you don’t like it. Servers would do everything to protect their commission. But, the cost of paying the servers would be out of sight, out of mind. Probably not a perfect system, but it would alleviate some of the weird expectations around tipping culture.
I think it’s insane that you chased those people down to demand a tip. Do your employers know you did this? This is borderline harassment. And you “enjoy” tipping people 30-40%”?! That’s madness.
For the decent servers a commission would be a pay cut.
I feel uncomfortable if I suspect that the staff is nice to me to receive a higher tip. I also prefer being left alone in the restaurant. The staff is there to take my order and then bring me the food. At the end they bring the bill, but that is not in my interest, but their's. Tipping might encourage them to ask 17 times if I need anything and that just spoils my experience.
That guy who chased the foreigners should lose his job over this. He committed fraud by saying tipping is the culture in the US. Tipping is very controversial in the US and every foreigner should know that he does not have to tip in the US. He mentioned a $400 bill. So the restaurant owner will get $400, but does not give its staff a fair share of that $400? Why is that my problem as a customer?
I still cannot wrap my head around the fact that you force ur own patrons to pay extra in lieu of service for what you are already paid for
I hate tipping too. But I tip whatever amount I like in restaurants. I don't follow the suggested tip % that's at the bottom of the check. Even in food courts where they dish out your food at the counter they expect tips, but I don't tip in this case! I don't tip on takeouts. I never use any delivery service like doordash cuz with the fee & the tips, they cost more than the food!
This whole thing is being steered in the wrong direction. #1) I don’t believe most people have an issue with tipping servers. I don’t like the idea that it went from 15% to 20% behind my back, but ultimately that doesn’t typically amount to that much really. What we are tired of is the OTHER people demanding tips now. Guy at counter taking my order and handing me the dish the cook made doesn’t deserve a tip. Cooks get paid to cook. They don’t get tipped. Guy at convenience store ringing up my funjuns doesn’t get a tip. This is what we’re talking about
This is not tipping, this is more of a bribe to do your regular job. Just because you are getting low wages you should not expect to put that burden on customers.
Opening words explain the problem: they work well below minimum wage.
Now ... WHY are they allowed to work below min wage? Employers should pay a livable wage? Simple concept. USA is so far backwards on this.
Im from Australia and just saw the story on TV. Here we DON’T tip at all, why? Cause employees get paid well. The average person might make $20-25AUD an hour, retail or restaurants for example. Because of that we earn a good wage so its not really necessary or even optional.
If you’re working in the US and your job only pays you $2-3 an hour then why even take that job?! If you’re fully aware of the wage and have to rely on tips then thats a problem. The employer needs to pay you much much more. And tipping should just be an extra perk on top of that. To make the job even better. Like if you’re paid $15USD an hour and you serve a bunch of tables and the customers decide to give you an extra $20 per table thats awesome. But if not, thats ok cause you got $15 per hour for your shift.
But what if its not busy that day, you’re getting paid $2-3 an hour as is, what.. are you gonna blame the customers. Not their fault, and its also not their fault you don’t get paid enough. Get another job that pays better. The US are living in the olden times.
When I visited the US for the first time, I was shocked. Its not just restaurants, catching a Taxi and tour buses even. We weren’t aware of tipping and the Taxi driver got real angry. WTF, why should I pay you EXTRA for just doing your job. Were you chatty or extra nice, not really so why should that be rewarded.
Waiters and waitresses, they take your order and bring it to you… so why is that worth my extra money?! Is that part of the job that hard? Shouldn’t I be tipping the chef for making it for me, they did all the hard work. McDonalds, you don’t need to tip there so why are restaurant staff more important? The staff at McDonalds work harder, I’ve seen them running around getting out 30 times more orders or even more then I would see at a restaurant within 10 minutes.
Its all too much. And then there’s the system where you have to work out the math.
I work hard but don’t get paid extra for doing my job and you shouldn’t either. I go out of my way to be extra helpful, not asking for handouts.
America needs to adapt what other countries are doing like mine and pay your staff more, then there’s no reason to tip unless you want to. They could at the very least have a tip jar at every table and at the end of every night gather the cash altogether and distribute it out to all the staff so its all evened out.
Im surprised Dr Phil didn’t mention other countries like Australia that don’t tip. Don’t get me started on extra tax on store prices.
Get with the times American!
Stop asking for handouts. You are not my employee. I do not pay your salary. Speak with your boss or unionize.
What’s sad, is most people complain about poor service but I’ve seen incredible service not being tipped in jobs where tipping is the culture. I see men tip young gorgeous women. But if you aren’t what they “like to see” then they take take take.
I think people forget that if your tips don’t cover what would be minimum wage your employer HAS to make up that difference. So you are making minimum wage and most servers make way above minimum due to tips.
Even if I get bad service, I'll tip something.
We don't tip in India, service is part of their job, they are happy that customers coming and business running.
The problem is we are obligated to tip even for mediocre or even bad services. Some servers don't even smile.
Guess what in Australia we’re not expected to tip at all. But if they go above and beyond their duties it’s very likely they will get multiple tips as a waiter. What a stupid system
I went to Japan a few years ago. The first place i went to eat, i left a modest tip but the server chased me out of the restaurant saying ive left too much, and forced the money back into my hand.
Eradicate tipping completely. Pay staff properly. Its rediculous.
After all, you dont tip your nurse or road cleaner but theyre doing a service.
The culture of tipping is these businesses BLATANTLY saying WE DONT PAY OUR STAFF A DECENT WAGE THAT THEY CAN LIVE OFF AND YOU [THE CUSTOMER] NEED TO PAY OUR STAFF'S WAGES! FFS!
Its not the customers fault that you work in a job that doesnt pay well.
In most European countries, tipping is not established, only those who want it give it. Asking for a tip is frowned upon. This is so, because over many years workers have fought for their rights and states update the value of the minimum wage every year, based (not always) on the inflation rate. Therefore, in the USA there should be an update to the minimum wage. The state and the boss are to blame for receiving little. The final product must have the price of the entire service from the product, to its preparation, water, cleaning of the space, tax,... the tip only goes to those who served, is it fair?
I'm here to eat out I'm not here to pay your salary lol
If you can afford to eat out you can afford to tip.
NPC argument
@@donnawilde2936 there's a difference we don't want to!
@@donnawilde2936 okay…so you’re able to afford to buy your groceries, i assume. Are you gonna tip your cashier next time? 😄
Then eat at home