ID Refusal - Man Walks Away From Investigative Detention
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I'm an ex cop. When the victim here says 'the other guy is getting away', I'm here to tell you that these cops don't care. When you're dispatched to a job, if you come back with someone in cuffs - it doesn't matter who they are, or what they did or didn't do, or what their rights are - and you have probable cause to have arrested them, then your job is done. It's a body count game. Bring back someone in cuffs, do the paperwork, go and get another one. If it's the 'right' guy, then cool. If not, as long as you had PC, it's someone else's problem, not yours. No cop is ever interested in what your rights are or whether you're guilty, or even if you're connected to the crime. They just want to arrest someone, with probable cause, and then go home.
If they could have busted this dude for something, they would have cuffed him, put him in the cruiser, driven him downtown and forgotten about the 'suspect with a knife'. Being dispatched to a job is just an excuse to go out and find people to arrest.
I lasted less than 2 years in the job. It was soul destroying. Unless, like a lot of my former colleagues, you don't have one.
Wau
wow!!! I believe EVERY word you just said... that's terrible!!!
You make it seem like a hopeless situation and we're just a bunch of sitting ducks hoping (and praying) not to be caught in the wrong place at the wrong time with the wrong cop while all while innocent.
The fact you glide through explaining this has me questioning you. The cops you just listed WILL be weeded out if it's the last thing we do. They have no place and stand no chance against WE THE PEOPLE... even in Canada.
Thanks 💪💪
This has turned into a police state.
I saw it as 2 homosexual cops assaulting a free citizen.
"We, the Sheeple" have allowed it.
Yes, I include myself in this sentiment. I too once believed 'They' gave a damn, actually honored/respected their PERSONAL OATH to respect, uphold and DEFEND our Constitution and Bill of Rights.
I and every other American Citizen has been lied to. Repeatedly.
Yes, I am beyond pissed-off/infuriated, and so should every other American!
Modern policing uses Gestapo knowledge and technics. The US brought more the engineers to the USA after WW2. Deutschland Deutschland Uber alles
@@AniwayasSongus Canadians as well my friend!!!💯👍😎
Yes very quickly escalated into that
So after not finding this dangerous guy, they just stand around and feel relieved to have held up an unarmed, unrelated citizen?
I’m betting there wasn’t a dangerous guy. They just wanted to fondle the man.
Look at the joy on their face as they violate his rights.
No les interesa la seguridad de las personas, solo arrestar y acosar gente al azar.
Meanwhile the bad guy got away. They really don't care about criminals. Just their egos
@@CPRfourtwenty You like the condescending, “Don’t worry about that…” when the guy asked them about the suspect?
Caution: Blue Line trash at work.
"We got a call" are four of the dirtiest words ever.
Followed by "I'm just curious..."
Those cops are perverts
Absolutely. You bet ya. 100%. Yes.
They are Govt. *MOBSTERS.* Any other criminal act is included in their agenda.
They love to feel other men up.
I’m actually noticing this. Women have protection from male cops fondling them, but men have no protection from gay male cops fondling them.@@paulc-xj9ck
Never talk to the police
Police investigating themselves is equivalent to the government trusting citizens investigate themselves.
These cops are ridiculous.
They are Govt. *MOBSTERS,* and traitors.
Treat them exactly as they have earned!
They absolutely EARNED the hate
Iam a conservative and until my fellow conservatives stop blindly backing the blue this behavior will not stop.
Yeah, not to mention there’s something contradictory about professing to hate “big government” while also worshipping their armed agents.
I am a conservative as well, and stuff like this boils my blood!!! I am very much for a smaller and less intrusive gov't.
What does conservative mean? I mean in this situation.
THE GUY THEY ARE LOOKING FOR IS PROBABLY LONG GONE BY NOW
...if he ever existed at all.....
People need to have gloves to put on when cops put theirs on.
I would love to see that oh we are putting on gloves now let’s do this pulls out his own gloves and smiles!
Cops would freak if we put on gloves. It would be an interesting experiment, if you live to report on it.
The cop put on his fighting gloves to intimidate and they were hostile and dismissive
Perhaps he was getting ready to go to the batting cages ??
It's great to see people slowly understanding their rights, and not backing down to the enemies that call themselves cops
Oooh, he took his glove off and put it back on again, like a baby attempt to intimidate.
When cops do good they get a paycheck...when they do bad they get a vacation...and a paycheck
This is Canada be very careful we don't have the same consitutional rights Americans have
Don’t you have a very similar Charter of Rights?
Also, the “Americans’” (quotes because last time I checked America was many countries in 2 continents) rights are not constitutional rights. They are natural rights that ALL people have. Our constitution just (supposedly) stops the government from infringing on them inside our borders. You have the same rights, whether or not your Charter confirms them.
@@freddispaghetti Similar isn't the right word.
In some regards yes.
But we have no Terry v Ohio and the cops can't just pat you down.
Although we still have an abundance of people ignorant of the laws and Charter, just like in the U.S..
In certain regards we have stronger protections on some things.
""Police can search you if they have reasonable grounds to believe you are carrying a concealed or prohibited weapon. Police can search you if they have reasonable grounds to believe that you are carrying illegal drugs or alcohol that will be used for an illegal purpose."
We are not plagued by Terry vs Ohio, and the police cannot just search you.
Had you been more up on what you are commenting about you would realize the cop is breaking the law.
So what was his reasonable grounds? A phone call giving the wrong address?
His first mistake is he should have started the conversation with, "I reserve the right to retain and instruct counsel without delay."
"Once there is an arrest or detention, section 10(b) imposes a number of positive duties on the detaining officer: (i) the duty to inform the detainee of his or her right to retain and instruct counsel without delay and of the existence and availability of legal aid and duty counsel; (ii) if a detainee has indicated a ...Jun 29, 2023"
"Without Delay. As soon as the right is engaged, the police have an obligation to assist the detainee in exercising that right "without delay." The police must also cease questioning or otherwise attempting to elicit evidence until the detainee has been given a reasonable opportunity to retain and instruct counsel."
The moment you say those words, a cop will 9 times out of 10 stop asking questions because anything you say after that statement to a question they ask with be inadmissible in a court of law."
yes you do
@@freddispaghetti I call them Merkins, as I as a Canadian am also an American.
And it is or should properly be, The United States of the Americas.
And they should be called United Statians, pronounced similar to station.
if there was actually a real crime, they let the criminal get away.
I couldn’t imagine being this incompetent at my job. Also I know it’s hard, but dont say a thing to these scumbags. They will try to create a reason to cuff you from any word you say
The thin blue gay gang out for a feel
Lmfao!!!!!! You rock!
You are just being hard on the cops !
@@georgedoherty6743 😂
How does the ID answer their big question? No.
I got stopped once for an investigative detention. I was 50 grey hair 6-5 and walking with my wife. They were looking for a 25 yr old male 6ft. They got the very same treatment with a (F) uck off
394 days of Wrongful Imprisonment due to Malicious Prosecution and Abuse of Prosecutorial Discretion ended on Wednesday... ive missed your work SORELY!
I'll be going live as soon as i get my phone back on to let everyone know what all happened.
No less than 4 1983's inbound.
Time to rattle some cages!
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I was recently wondering what happened to you. Glad you’re out man
"I IDENTIFY as the schmuck that pays your SALARY, Bro!" I would love to hear THAT!
Holy crap.... Law enforcement in this country is totally out of control!!!
Bro thank you so much for sharing my video! If it wasn't for channels like yours I would have no idea what to do in situations like this. Not that I handled it perfectly but without Channels like yours I'd have gotten run over by these idiots. Thanks for all you do brother 🙏
Saw the cars and was a little bummed my home town made the internet lol
I don’t trust any cop. As I’ve said before the trouble starts when the cops arrive.
great camouflage... stop for and carry a hot cup of coffee to pretend your not the criminal that is running from the cops.
Police MUST not be allowed to be this stupid.
They earn every little bit of disrespect that comes their way.
They actually wallow in it.
Police are the scariest heroes I’ve ever seen 🤦🏾♂️
More like they are “ Scared heroes”.
They are not heroes!
Watch it….he’s gloving up!!!
Usually when the gloves go on the hands follow. Good for you, sir standing your ground good for you.
When a cop says you're detained for a second, count 1001 and walk off - the second is over...
Keep teaching people man. You are truly teaching people about our government and Constitution. It's funny how the algorithm tries to change my type to make me look ignorant. Showing that big business knows that they are commiting crimes against people. First and foremost, the constitution.
"investigative detention"
to me that screams "not a terry stop". should immediately walk away.
They arrest you for remaining silent and the first thing they say is that you have the right to remain silent
Yep. Caught they don't care
Ya we're looking for a suspect 5,4 to 6,9 with hair and tattoos.. he has cloths on and is currently breathing air! Like and subscribe patriots! 600k here we go!
Just random vagueness leads to this wild violation of the Constitution.
I didn't even hear the guy with the knife committing a crime. Was just walking. Since when was it a crime to walk down the road with a knife.
@@joshuastanton6731
And descriptions are always notoriously inaccurate, wrong or just made up.
@@lgDukeCity5018 Exactly, what are they doing to verify the description?
About 8 years ago i thought cops were the good guys . Then i found cop watchers and auditors on TH-cam . My eyes are now WIDE open thanks to these channels ❤️
Went wrong for me over 20 years ago. This shithead started as our local cop. The commissioner (Top Cop) of whole state was found to be completely corrupt. That’s the top cop of the whole state. How deep do you think that rabbit hole went? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Lewis_(police_officer)
Funny how the officers act like it's a minor inconvenience to provide ID when they didn't want to ID themselves.
They sure are concerned about someone that does not exist.
If I get detained illegally I will walk away because I'm not gonna cooperate with their unlawful B.S. and if they try to search me illegally I will defend myself.
I don't recommend that. There are safer ways to deal with an armed criminal gang.
@@jasonshults368 I know it's just I'm so fed up with these idiots not knowing their place when it comes down to the law. They illegally detained and searched the guy for no reason. It's pissin me off 😡.
Same here. I know I’d lose, and they would likely kill me, but I’m not fond of men fondling me.
It was a fondling.@@stephonephoenix
@stephonephoenix thats like saying its safer to just let the rapist do what he wants and he's less likely to kill you. No thanks
11:45 i think moree accurately: “The 4th amendment is SUPPOSED to protect you”.
Criminal cops like this show that it is not true.
Don't blame the cops. People expect to be protected by the Constitution without following the direct instructions it gives when a situation such as this happens to arise.
Fair enough. However, these particular cops were not legally bound by the Fourth Amendment in any way. Why would they be?
They know how to get their rights violated ...Now it would be great if you can teach them how to file complaints and Federal TORT claims !!!
Its canada man😅
I'm surprised they let him grab his coffee. How did they know there was no knife in the cup??
Lets Gooo!!!!
Hope he filed a complaint against the officers. They were quoting the law wrong, so a refresher class on civil rights and detention laws is in order. 😊
it's in Canada, they didn't misstate the law except where they tried to imply that not answering questions would be obstruction
These cops are fing clowns. Just sickening.
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MLH&R from Summerside PEI 🇨🇦❤️💯. Aw man I just noticed right at the end, this was a Canadian police department, I'm so embarrassed 😢
Cops like to hire "big dummies."😅😅😅 Ain't that the truth!
The more stupid they are the easier is to brainwash them
Total Karen's for officers Definitely
'I'm gonna need to feel you up a little bit. Is that okay ?'
😳
Something's wrong with cops that like to touch other men in my opinion they're just sick.
True perverts
I have asked several places. Including places run by lawyers.
Why are LEOs addicted to IDing citizens who have done nothing illegal. I have seen addicts less fixated on another fix, than LEOs are at IDing. Makes me ponder in they are creating a database of citizens who don't surrender their rights at their demands.
Please do a video on this issue.
The cop is too obtuse to take a hint🙃
No wonder they always fear for their lives with the way they treat us
They’re real concerned about him with their backs turned to him.
Keep learning and teaching the Constitution!!! 👍🙏✌️👌
In this case, you mean The Charter, right?
@@kyle381000 If you're not in the U.S.A. and your Nation is ruled by a Charter, YES!
Make sure you use Canadian laws when presenting with police in Canada.
Section 8 of the Canadian charter of rights and freedoms covers this, not the 4th amendment.
Auditors; remember to carry black gloves so that you can put yours on when they try to intimidate you by putting on theirs.
Retaliation at its finest.
F officer safety.
not a law, not constitutional.
Correct
Not sure but that looks like Ontario Canada. No?
That sounds aboat right.
@@woodsrdr😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
We don’t need policy changes. We need
The laws changed.
Since when do cops become ass holes? When a badge is pinned and a gun issued?
Canada doesn’t have a 4th Amendment.
Darn! How did I not recognize the costumes! I woulda thrown the charter rights in there.
@@sanjoaquinvalleytransparency1
The filth in Canada don't recognize that either.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_8_of_the_Canadian_Charter_of_Rights_and_Freedoms
@@sanjoaquinvalleytransparency1 it’s all good. I wasn’t sure if you didn’t notice or if you were just making the clip fit here in the US.
Canada screwed up when they let them take their right to bare arms. We cannot EVER become Canada. Their cops are DISGUSTING.
Wrong.
Canadians still own and use millions of guns. Always have and always will. Stop getting information from Faux News.
Canadians never had the right to bear arms. It was illegal to carry a handgun as far back as 1892 if you couldn’t prove need. The Canadian “Biil of Rights” didn’t come about until 1982. Before that the Canadian government was still taking native children forcibly from their families and sending them to “schools”.
Too many people in the US think Canada is a progressive country because of the draft dodgers that fled the US in the 60’s and 70’s because Canada would not extradite them back to the states.
Canada is still a commonwealth country that is loyal to a king.
Canada is a constitutional monarchy. We are a representative republic. It makes me sick every time I hear an elected representative in the US talk about our “democracy”. A democracy is 2 wolves and a sheep voting on what’s for dinner.
Why didn't the cop at least buy the man a drink before he feels up and grabs some junk.
That they dont walk around with a broken nose shows just how pathetic the people have gotten.
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YAYAAAAH!😁👍💯💥🔥
They were fishing. The one thing the guy should have done is not say a word to the cops.
More bullies with badges,...
Me: "You want me to help you, so that I can be jailed?" 😏
COPs: "Yea, of course I do! Otherwise, it's obstruction of justice!" 👀
🧔🏻SAN the MAN🧔🏻 good seeing you in my premier but I don’t know if you know that video took place at the Thornton Township Hall during the Supervisors meeting on march 13th.
Tiffany A. Henyard is the Supervisor of Thornton Township as well as the Self appointed SUPER MAYOR of Dolton IL
We were standing out back as the meeting was ending hoping to catch queen tiff and her entourage / security detail we’re leaving and getting into the INFAMOUS $150,000 Tahoe paid for by tax dollars when the groundskeeper PEE-TSD’d his Panties and shortly after this video ended the mainstream news came out and set their cameras up in the same spot with no problem
The police have no reason to hold this guy, I would sue the police dept
I remember when these people were considered heroes and commanded respect. What the hell happened?
Everyone having a little personal computer in the form of a phone with cameras and Internet happened.
This is Canada brother, the constitution doesn’t apply, it’s the Charter of Rights and Freedoms!
You are poorly educated on Canada we Do Have a Constitution and it is definitely different than the American version!!!
It's pretty rare for Canadian cops to act like that.
Meanwhile the guy that they're looking for is getting further and further away😂.
The way they pull 💩 out their ssa’s 🤦♂️
He talked to cops, and answered some of their questions, so they were able to extend the detention, and claim it was never a detention because this guy never shut his mouth. He now has no recourse against these lawless cops because his participation in the conversation makes it a consensual encounter. Everyone has the right, but very few have the ability, to remain silent. Record, identify cop(s), demand a lawyer for all questions, invoke your fifth amendment right, then don't say another word no matter what. It will reduce the time wasted with lawless cops like these, and protect your ability to hold them accountable.
*When the popo comes your way, **_you'd better have that 2A!_*
So they threatened arrest for obstruction for not identifying based on hearsay. Great waste of tax dollars.
If I was a betting man I would say that there wasn't any calls about this guy there's a lawsuit in the works
The suspect had a police uniform on and looked guilty
Its great to see Canadian finally starting to understanding our Charter Of Rights and Freedoms
Yeah, but he forgot about his right to remain silent. He should have kept his mouth shut, mainly because nothing he said was going to make a damn bit of difference and everything he said could be used by the cops as an excuse to escalate.
Nothing ever gets settled on the street. He should have just kept quiet. Then, make a request for all the bodycams and 9-1-1 recordings as part of a formal complaint.
@@kyle381000 Well said
That interaction probably cost the taxpayers 500 bucks minimum, and they didn't have the perp, and "wrong address" again
Some of us would just rather fight right then. Never let another man tell u what to do. F that
End qualified immunity for the cops, prosecutors and judges. Watch this all go away.
During this kind of detainment, I would proclaim, you got 5 minutes then I'm gone.
Lawsuit. Unlawful search and seizure, violations of right to travel freely...
This looks nothing like the streets of a FREE country. Absolutely unacceptable.
Seen this cop begore several times.
Obvious, doesnt care about peoples rights. Why should he.? He does it all the time with no consequences my
Officer dummy said the key words “You’re not being charged YET”
They were looking for anything to charge this innocent dude.
Never, never help them make a case against you, always challenge them if we are not committing a crime!!!!
We should petition to make a law that the officers HAVE to show the reports that les them to believe if the suspect is the suspect otherwise, it's hearsay.
HA HA HA HA HA HA ----The guy says at the end" You want my name still?" Then says F-OFF !!! Luv it ! That was funny. Stupid cops get schooled. Good one. Thank for the video Brother SJVT.
Here , officer . Let me help you with your investigation . Go get the complainant and bring them here to tell you that I am not the person you are looking for .
What's really scary is they know he's NOT THE SUSPECT.
I did not hear the cops articulate the suspected crime, but I did hear them conspire to violate his rights, which is a crime.