1940's Hay Loader: Rescued and Relied Upon
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ก.ค. 2019
- Our goal is to produce hay for our small dexter cows (2 dairy/3 beef) using our own land and tools. But to do so for the cost of 1 or 2 seasons of hay!
This equipment fits the bill. A New Idea Hay Loader from the 30's-40's. For $200 + $80 in parts, we've got a great way to get hay out of the field.
Thanks to:
Steve Hoover for the great video of the Dump Rake
Dave Haffey for the great videos of the buck rakes and overshot loader - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
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Stacked many loads of hay on wagon in front of a New Idea leader like this. Thanks for the memory.
Hard farm and ranch work there is nothing better to raise your kids around. Love the old Ford truck
Have the same model. Rebuilt with new wood; only replaced 3 bolts. Four generations of family have now utilized it!
Great job and Thanks for this video. My kids and I found one in the woods and now I can show them what if once did.
I just love that old school ingenuity. You look like you're having a great life, good luck and be safe.
100 years later the loader is finally rotting at the edge of the woods but the weld is still holding ;) I had thoughts of grandeur about rebuilding and using one into you brought up snakes lol
It feels so satisfying to see your hard work bringing that old school ingenious farm equipment back to life, that big stack of hay brings back warm memories of my grandpa’s New England farm
You are a talented young man!
Great content and storytelling! Good production value too! Nice work.
After commenting on one of their videos, Blue Creek Dairy sent me your way to have a look at your hay loader. I'm glad to see you got yours working. They are an amazing piece of equipment. With a little paint, grease and oil, it will keep going for a few more decades. One suggestion when you have the extra money, buying a 3 tine pitch fork makes it much easier to work with hay instead of the 5 tine manure fork. Good luck with the farm and best wishes to you.
My thought exactly about the pitchfork.
Very nice … way to go guys !
Possibilities, great stuff. I have a neighbour do my hay. But O to be self sufficient!
Just a note. In 1963 we got our hay loader for the first time. I was 16 years old and in great physical farm-boy shape, and the one on the back of the truck.
Since most hayfields have irregularities in the landscape, the person on the back of the truck needs to be very agile and be able to maintain upright while loading the hay.
Also, when the load nears the top, the person loading is standing on the edge (rear) could slide off the truck into the hay loader pickup part if the driver suddenly increased speed. My father had a hard time maintaining a steady speed.
A few times I had to deal with a sudden lurch of the truck forward. Never fell but did get scared of doing so.
Thanks for sharing. Oh, one more thing. because the hay loader delivers the hay in one continuous blanket, the entire load is weaved like one big ball. Tearing apart the ball when unloading is much harder than one loaded by hand.
What a great video of the restoration! Brings back memories of fixing up our John Deere hay loader. Isn't it simply amazing how well a hay loader works? Great mix of footage, history, and shots on and behind the hay loader. I need a welder so bad! I wore hiking gaiters this year while on the wagon and that helped a lot to keep hay etc out of my socks and shoes. Such a great job all around!
We use one of the harbor freight welders. Simon likes it quite a bit. We are on welder #2 as something broke on the first one after quite a bit of use. It has its limitations, but overall works well!
We just bought a 130 yr old texas farm that has almost all of that equipment sitting rusting along the barn. I have wondered wether it was worth restoring the equipment. Your videos inspire me to try.
I hope you are able to bring some equipment back to life. It is very satisfying to make old tools work again! Good luck!
Great job
Welding cast, it doesn't come up very often, we have a Buzz Box Lincoln Stick welder, had to weld up some cast, we heated the cast up in the woodstove, reversed the electrodes (put the welding rod on the ground clamp) bought some veeeerrrry expensive cast iron welding rod, welded, put the cast back in the old wood stove overnight to let cool down sloooowly. It worked! I pay for swathing and baling, then we PU truck it into the barn. Buck it up into the truck, then buck it into the barn, handling it twice isn't the most efficient way to handle the hay. But it's what we've got. Nice job on your loading your truck, every vid that I've seen of people moving loose hay they are always waist deep in the hay. Back when I had access to a baler (my big hay farmer neighbor would let me borrow his baler) , we would turn hay to dry out bottom, with an old ground drive IH rake, it would always turn the hay in clumps rather then neat rows, so after I baled the hay there would still be loose hay between where the windrows were. I'd dump rake the 5 acre field and get 5 more bales out of the harvest.
respect sir real good job
I loved the video and will check out you videos. I am so glad I found your channel, I have been looking for one of these Hay Loaders for years. But there is not a lot of these down here in the South, mainly Louisiana. I would really like to find one with just all the metal parts in good shape, the wood parts I can make, many of the metal parts also as long as I have a pattern or old part to copy to fab. I collect and restore old horse drawn equipment for future use on our 9 acre 104 year old family Homestead. I have two IH sickle mowers to restore and my Great Grand Fathers old IH Hay Rake to restore and a number of barn hay trolleys and different hay forks. Again thanks for the video, loved it. I have a 1948 IH K5 hay truck also.
Glad you enjoyed the video. Depending on how far you are willing to travel, I bet you could find one. There was a great one we found in Oregon, but were happy to find one an hour away here in Washington instead of 6 hours away. In the near future we will put out another video about our hay trolley--and some the repairs we did to get it going. If you have any local draft powered facebook groups, some of them may have seen some come up in ads elsewhere, or have extra to sell. When we were looking, a friend recommended looking in Amish country or sales in Amish country (which isn't here in the west...).
Also, Blue Creek Dairy Farm WA has a video of their restoration of a John Deere hay loader (which is beautiful!)
It was an amazing..
I'm truly inspired
I'm from India..
Can you please share the principal of the machine
That's sweet trucks doing tractor.
Cool save of old equipment... Should really get back to that axle race and grind out all the nasty weld.. Brazing is easy!!!
Merci, je viens d'en acheter une semblable. Elle a aussi besoin d'un peu d'amour pour le bois, mais je vais la remettre en bon état.
Awesome thanks
I remember my grandpa driving a team of horses hitched to his hay wagon which could not be seen due to the overflowing mountain of hay being brought to the hay barn, then the farm hand would help trolley the hay into the loft just like you did in another video
My grandma got to guide their horse to pull the hay up into the barn. Her dad would whistle for her to stop and go. When they got a Farmall tractor, she got to use that instead of 'old Rainy'.
Cozy Cow Family Farm / sweet sweet memories
1954, the year before my start in first grade, the farmer next door to our farm still used one of these for their hay. I thought he had the best looking tractor a Ford jubilee with the shinny emblem in the front of the hood, to a five year old it looked so big.
Be careful hay doesn't wrap around your drive shaft and starts on fire. I've seen it before.
Good point and not something we've thought about. We'll have to keep an eye on that!
If the flatbed trailer is yours make end racks and you could get 4 sling loads on , and unlike a hay day wagon would be easy to back up to barn with the Farmall
I wish we had a trailer, maybe someday! We borrowed this one from a friend.
good good
How many storms has that hay loader saw through the years you wonder ?
The real ingenuity was storing hay inside the barn after it was hauled home.
Wow
its good you restored this because sadly it most of the time becomes a city slicker lawn ornament
Do you have a problem with snakes in the load of hay?
Only that one!
hello sir First, I just discovered your channel. I watched with curiosity and love. I want to thank you for your channel videos. I followed you from Turkey. I have never seen this product here and found out that it is not in my research. I am wondering if this product has a pdf or book link. I would appreciate if you share it with me. Best regards.
I don't have a pdf or book link about the hay loader, but you can search google for new idea hay loader or John Deere Hay loader. There are a few other brands as well I am sure you will come upon. Here is one search I pulled up. It may not be as detailed as you are hoping. www.farmcollector.com/equipment/new-idea-hay-loader-zmbz13mayzbea
@@cozycowfarm Although the link you sent is not very helpful, make sure I found the answers to some questions in my head. Thank you for doing some research for me. thank you again for the videos and look forward to more video logs. Good luck.😊
@@ugursahin5026 Some of our Amish communities use something similar only I think they just have pullies installed and use horses or oxen to pull the ropes that lift the hay into the barn. At the top of the barn they have someone with a long stick with a hook on the end that reaches out and grabs the gob of hay and pulls it in. I'm not sure of all the specifics but I was thinking you could use your truck or something instead of horses.
@@terriperry6360 In this video I was interested in the straw loading machine. A very useful machine for small farmers. The way to transport the straw to the warehouse is its own choice. this means that their lifestyle or financial means require them to ride horses.I wrote You This article by translating it on google. I'm sorry if I didn't reflect exactly what we meant.Have a good day.
Are you guys in Washington then? I'm over in Lynden Area (WA) I
Yup! We are on the other side!
Just gained yourself a new subscriber I really want to remanufacture these antique machines for folks like me who want to use their animals to farm with ,my first project is a IHC mccormick deering no9 scycle bar mower restoration ,I want to build steam engines, miniature locomotives, traction engines , horse equipment like hay lifters tedders cutters the hard stuff to find in working condition I have two of kozo hiroko's books on building 7 1/2 inch gauge logging locomotives the books teach gear cutting and all manner of model engineering practices
Welcome Wes! Good luck with your projects! And as an RC enthusiast who has a basement full of rc aircraft, you might catch glimpses of another shared hobby in the background.
@@cozycowfarm I have some questions I acquired the same new idea loader mine is a L62 where did you find the replacement tines for drum rake ? And by any chance do you also know what kind of chains it uses ? I spent the last three days unsticking all the parts and next I will be replacing the sheet steel that has rusted out. All day today I freed the rake parts and in the process slightly crushed two of the pipes and broke atleast four of the tines but now it's free and turning
@@wesbrackmanthercenthusiast4695, we found that the local North40 had the right double teeth (F5) on the shelf. It's a pretty generic tooth setup luckily!
I'll try to get measurements on the chains tomorrow
Thank you very much
When i was a kid the call out was , "Extra Protein!" ( Snake in a Bale.)
How much it costs to build one for India
You saved it from the scrapper. God Blessed
Ahh the bees
Bought one of these myself, already working condition. Haven't used it yet though.
Have you put up loose hay before? or what role will it have on your farm?
@@cozycowfarm I haven't put up loose hay for over 10yrs. Did that with a hay bucker. I'll be using this for the same as what are though. I genuinely just enjoy working on old machinery.
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Looks like the restorative painting got eliminated for the project. LOL
Yup, for a few reasons on this one. In part because I don't love the look of the new idea colors, and most of it is galvanized anyway, and there are a lot of big rivets rather than bolted sections.Happy to leave this one with an "experienced" patina
@@cozycowfarm I can understand where priorities can change in a flash on the farm. Just glad that the old equipment is being brought back to a useful purpose. We do the same thing here. As long as it works, I do not really care how it looks. LMAO.
A hay wagon would work so much better.u can get a good used one for a couple of hundred dollar.they are so much easier to load,and are a lot safer to work on.i have never seen someone use a pickup on it,that is so dangerous.
Pickup has been working pretty well; we started using the pickup when we were filling by hand. We have been looking for a hay wagon over the last two years and have not found one we can afford. So, if anyone know of one that needs restoring and want to see it get new life, they can contact us!
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And use a hay fork.
Are you meaning a hay 'pitch fork' v the 'manure pitchfork' or a hay fork for the unload with the trolley compared to hay slings? We may get a hay 'pitch fork' sometime, but we are using what we have at the moment. If you are referencing the trolley, we do use the fork to unload from the top if we have a very full load, but in general prefer the slings for a variety of reasons. The trolley we have has the double pulley that was specifically made to unload hay slings.
I grew up on a farm in western New York. Done my fair share of hayin'. My question is why don't youz guys just bail your hay?