Same energy as, "Hey we have this undead assassin-looking dude who's ult encourages getting pentakills with music based on how high your multikill is." "MAKE HIM A SUPPORT."
@@kroneexe... girly?? 😭😭 just because theyre a supportive role doesn’t mean theyre automatically girly. theres other supports other than enchanters lol
Nothing beats throwing a lantern into the river brush, when nobody is there. and seeing the enemy duo go into an all out panic thinking your bringing your jungler to the fight.
Thresh is an enigma to me. How they made a champion so overloaded (like Azir or Kalista) yet keep him relevant and balanced is beyond me. Such a good job
because he was way more overloaded than his current iteration and they had to gut him but this time riot's done a good job of flaying Thresh to the point where he's not underpowered
Dear tresh mains please understand that there are so many shitty autofilled supports Who lock thresh because they think they are madlife and if you click the lantern its a death sentence. So most of us adc players have a severe ptsd regarding lanterns
@@morningtide7956 as an irelia main I am so sorry, sometimes I am just too busy trying to aim minion or marked champion, I just do not notice your lantern
I was testing Senna once and I got paired with a Lucian on the bot lane and we had to face a Tresh as the other Support... He fucking singlehandedly swiped the floor with us.
He is very cool Resembles an undead but isnt in the 'ugly' section Can save allies from impossible situations hence looking badass Can make predictions of dashes --> looking cool Has one of the best engage and disengage potential
2 days ago i predicted ezreal e, but failed the hook because i calculated wrong and was a bit far and the hook didnt got there, if hook has been a little bit longer it would have been a perfect prediction
@@devforfun5618 kench can grab you over walls, but since his kit has been stripped back so much over time he doesn't even qualify as a support much anymore, not that anyone ever runs at you to grab them over a wall even if you ping the spot they need to move to 35 times before the rengar finally reaches them. especially the no bonus move speed, no more flashing with a teammate in your belly, reduced shield so you cannot buy as much time for your team, my poor fav champ, at least he finally gets his 5th skin now.
@@segafan2437 They really did Tahm Kench dirty, now all he's good for is trashing top lane bruisers in 1v1's and losing games because he falls of and contributes little late game.
I find it sort of mind boggling how a champ has become arguably the best character in his role thanks to the sole purpose of being able to move himself, his teammates and his enemies. It’s insane, his hook allows him to move himself and enemies, his W allows him to reposition his allies, his E is great for follow-up to his Q, as a peel tool, or just a simple engage to a skirmish. Of course his ult is among the strongest zoning tools in the game as well, buying his own team valuable space and potentially locking enemies out of a choke point.
Funny how Spirit blossom skin expresses his ingame (not exactly lore) personality. He is a nice caring guy helping his ADC, almost acting like a parenting figure, but to the enemies? He is like a warden, jury and judge in one person. Because executioner is his little ADC.
I've been a thresh main for years. we need more control type champions in the game. the main reason I love thresh so much is because I have a huge influence on where everyone is. enemies and allies alike. If I want some one somewhere I can in most cases put them there. and this fantasy is brought even further by spirit blossoms voice lines like "you know better" when landing a hook or flay, or when he says "wrong way" when hooking an enemy.
To me Thresh is the perfect example of a fantastic overloaded kit. He does a lot, and he does a lot right, but he still feels fair to play against. Champs like Yone IMO are examples of terrible overloaded kits (partly duo bad balance). You have to be good at thresh to hard carry games.
@@thelordofthelostbraincells Yes. Maybe that defeats the purpose of "overloaded" but he does a lot of things and feels fair to play against. Obvious strengths and weaknesses
You’re right in that the flay passive isn’t very useful outside of one shot cheese late game, but early on it’s super useful for lane trading and securing cannon executes
People have accepted Thresh because he's been there for a long time now, but he's still a 200 years champion. That guy can do anything a support would want to do but heal, and he deals much more damage than you may think
I have successfully 1v1 ed a tristana who had her bomb and her r as thresh at like 20 min. Granted I did destroy her in lane pretty hard. But still. (Full tank supp items btw no proper tank item)
he can heal with Font of Life. It makes it so allies hitting a cced or slowed enemy within get healed for like 5+1% of your max hp over 1.75s. Ain't much but it's there.
You forgot one of the lanterns extra utility functions. It actually has a small collision box that you can use to stop people from moving through certain areas if they take a corner too closely. Its extremely small though so very hard to use properly and rarely worth throwing your lantern at an enemy but it does exist.
I think it's more than that. his flay and ultimate double as peeling tools. his q doubles as a lockdown during team fights. and his lantern can either be used as an engage or to save your teammates from bad situations. this versatility is why I main him
I watched this after recently picking up thresh just looking learn about his lore and history but there seem to be many tips and tricks on how to play the champ in game and play mind games on the enemy. 10/10 video. Awesome stuff dude!
Because: He's the biggest troll lorewise just hear his voicelines in LoR What's that word you like using, oh yeah "agency" he got that He had wifesteal People watch Cryo His personality, unlike a certain overtuned pony he's an undead with a personality Too many people hold out the hope that they'll find that adc who knows how the lantern works H O O K
Here's a question: If Thresh stole Senna, and Senna stole Veigo's Wife; dosen't that mean Thresh had *200%* Wifesteal? He stole a wife who stole a wife.
@@raikaria3090 Isolde willingly latched onto Senna, so no Isolde was just running. Thresh just got lucky and hit the 2 for 1 torture jackpot Edit: Which brings up the question why wasn't Thresh hounded by the black mist if he technically was in possession of a fragment of Isolde?
He does have an overloaded kit for a catcher support, his q has a long range and stuns for white a while as it drags you, and recasting it allow you to gap close to flay them towards your team. W is probably one of the strongest basic abilities in league and its defensive and offensive utility are great. I'd say the main thing that defines thresh his kit is one of the best engage and best disengage at the same time depending on the situation
Bard may not have as much disruption in a fight as chain skeleton, but he is very good at messing with enemies like a Shaco. This champ is the expert of tilting people who chase him through the jungle just to get stapled to the wall and watch the cosmic beanbag skip away unharmed or jump into his glowing wormhole (and if you follow through that you will just get stunned again and be in a worse position).
Pyke, Rakan, Bard and Thresh are the only real skill expressive supports, which is why most people who actually climb in the role prefer those champs, even if they are not ideal/meta. In general if you are a Lulu, Yuumi or Sona player, you coinflip your team having the better adc and get rewarded for playing reactively instead of proactively, which is 10x easier. There is a bit more skill to engage, but not mechanically, you just need to be proactive and have macro to wins games.
Riot games needs to take a long hard look at thresh for their champ design. He is built to fit a class, but not bound to it like how Nilah is made to be an ADC and punished if she isn't (passive) or how Pyke is made to be a support but can't solo lane (passive, q, e). Thresh can go top, jungle, mid and sometimes even crit adc. His abilities are everything you could need but at the same time so simple. Thresh's kit is perfect. His identity is clear and his champion design and lore fit it. He has scaling, a hook with a self dash and 2 pulls, a self/ally shield and ally dash, an aoe multi-purpose enemy displacement in any linear direction and a cage of walls that basically root but are difficult to make super useful. Thresh has a low-medium barrier to entry but an unlimited skill cap. Additionally, Thresh either has no counterplay or all the counterplay in the world. It just depends on how good you and your opponents are. Despite how packed with options Thresh's kit is, nothing is out of place. When you're building a champion, your reason for adding anything at all into their kit should never be "because why not." And to tell if a champion has been built really well, look at their abilities and try to reason their existence as if you were a Riot employee. E.G. Thresh lantern, "so that he can get his allies to enemies that he has captured." Now, try to reason something like Akshan passive shield with his design/identity and you hit a roadblock. Why DOES a rogue Sentinel of Light get a shield when he shoots someone? or Why DOES a marksmen who stalks enemy champions in stealth and bursts them get a shield? It just doesn't line up in the way Thresh's abilities do. So, in conclusion Riot games should do the following to design GOOD champions that will last a long time. - Design them to fit a role but make them flexible and don't lock them to it. - Give them abilities that work with and off each other. Do not load them with tools for every scenario, give them a distinct specialisation and make their abilities fit. - The champion has to have a good design. Lore is often left out of the equation nowadays but champions like Thresh and Jhin really make you feel like an evil terrifying ghostly abomination that stalks enemies and binds them in chains, dragging them to their doom. Or an unnerving, psychopathic murderer with OCD on the number 4 that creates art in the face of death. These things are reflected in gameplay. - Finally, nothing should be thrown into the champion because "why not." Everything, every single part of that god damn champion needs to be intentional, needs to fit and needs to make sense. Thanks for coming to my ted talk.
This one only needs 1 sentence of explanation: Because he has everything, both things needed and things being fun gimmicks. To write it out: His lantern is both massive utility AND fun to use, his Flay is so multi-purpose it´s almost criminal and he has a non-commiting Blitzcrank hook that stuns for longer. His passive soul-collecting feels rewarding to look at, his ult is great at zoning and debilitating enemies and last but not least his E passive, which grants this satisfying one HUGE auto attack after not attacking for a while. In other words, he is legitimately the best support Riot ever intentionally created. And while I believe Braum is the best support thematic-fitting-wise, Thresh is the best in pay-off.
Hello Vars. I've loved your content for a bit, and saw in a poll you were starting a series called "perfectly designed." May I suggest Rakan? I might be a little biased here because I main him, but I believe I main him because of his great design. Here is a few reasons I believe he is a perfectly designed champion: [1] Rakan is an extremely mobile champion done right. Most players like high mobility champions, but dislike dealing with them. Specifically, because they one-shot you and get away instantly (*ahem* Katarina). Rakan, on the other hand, rarely ever can one shot you, unless very fed while building ap midlane. Rakan's mobility is also tied directly to his team, which creates the challenge for rakan players to keep an eye on their team at all times, as your team is your engage, your disengage, and one of the main ways to hit R. [2] Rakan's kit is lore accurate, and he fits into the lore of League. Rakan and Xayah fit very well in the universe of runeterra, and therefore feel more like a real League character compared to a lot of other new releases, not naming names. More importantly, I believe Rakan's kit accurately represents his lore and personality extremely well. He is a dancer, and while playing rakan, you truly feel like you are dancing through the battlefield, dodging attacks and charming enemies. Rakan also rewards a very high risk high reward playstyle, where if you go in and hit a massive 3 man W and R, you can turn the tides of a fight instantly. However, if anywhere in that process you get hit by a single morgana root, you really can't do much and just die due to rakan's squishiness. It fits very accurately with Rakan's no plan, in the moment style he has in the lore, as with rakan in game, you can't plan everything out. You have to react to where your teammates are so you can E, where your enemies are in relation to your team, and everything in between. [3] Rakan is a unique champion. Rakan's design is unique from every other champ in the game. He plays a role similar to that of engage tanks such as rell, but isn't tanky (unless you build tank but I'll get to that later). Rakan is a hard to kill engage support not because of raw armor and MR numbers, but because he is hard to hit. He is basically a movespeed champion, as his dash's speed scales with his movement speed, and rakan often builds items such as Shurelya's (r.i.p. mythic passive), staff of flowing water, and mobility or swiftness boots. [4] Rakan is versatile. Rakan is an extremely versatile champion that can be played in many ways. Both me and a friend of mine play a ton of rakan, but we play him completely different when it comes to runes and items. Some play rakan with Aftershock and build a mobile engage tank. Some build rakan with guardian and build an mobile engage enchanter style. Some go electrocute in the midlane. He can fit into most team comps well, and build what is needed for his team at the moment. [5] Not many people hate Rakan. Despite being a mobile skill champ, which are often disliked, very rarely do you see people ban rakan or go "ugh, this champion is overloaded." Playing as or against rakan always feels like a skill matchup, and not really that rakan himself is an overloaded champion. Anyways, thanks for coming to my TED talk. I probably forgot a few things, but I feel like this should be enough reasoning.
As a fellow Rakan main I couldn’t agree more. I support but play a very aggressive midlane-like build with electrocute that focuses on damage and ability haste, and it works wonders if pulled off at the right time
Thresh is what made me get into league. His design seemed interesting to me. Thresh will always be played because his kit is dynamic and will always work. Even if he isn’t meta he is still playable.
Versatility. You have a number of options to do, instead of one combo over and over and over. Good CC, skill required kit and overall amazing personality
Loved your video! Also adding to what you said about the support role, most people think that a support player is the one that gets carried yet most teams wouldn’t win a 4 vs 5 without a support
Im a top lane main but whenever im autofilled, i always go thresh. His playstyle is amazing. Beautiful design. Amazing lore. Doesnt have almost any weakness tho.
Thresh is the ONLY engage type support champion that I play because all the others ones bore me to tears lol. Naut, Leona, Blitz all have basically one job but Thresh is so so versatile in every situation that it seems like he was made for my style of playmaking. He's a very safe first pick if you're experienced on him and his potential grows the more you invest time into him. I have most of my points in Soraka lmao, but ever since picking up Thresh, I've realized how game changing he can be. Love this video, what an awesome champ!! :D
When I got into League I remember the client had images of champions while the game was downloading And I instantly fell in love with thresh just by looking at him I just thought "wow that guy looks sooo cool" Then I rerolled three champion shards because back then you could do that since blue essence wasn't merged with influence points just yet and I got Thresh He was also the first skin I ever got in the game I love playing him so much, he's just so versatile and fun
What I love most about Thresh is that he incredibly different from the rest of the supports; he isn't designed to be cute or "E-girly" but as a relentless monster, in fact he is the first scary monster champion that happens to be a support. When I see supports like Soraka, Lulu or Leona I always think that these champions can't really defend themselves not just because of their kit but also their design. But as for Thresh I always see him having the ability to carry for his adc for how versatile his kit is and his appearance backs up the fact he can do it. And he feels really oppressive when you lane against him.
I just love him because he doesn't require seven fingers per hand and the hand speed and flexibility of a Power Metal guitarist to play. The cool Thresh plays are usually mind games. Lee Sin players have to, like, hit Q, take the dash, put down a ward and W to it to cancel the animation, then buffer the kick and flash behind the enemy for some fancy schmancy compilation play. Meanwhile, I just gotta read someone's mind :>
Honestly to me it's the fact that he's a ranged tank usually a tanks biggest weakness is you have to get in melee range and can't do much poke or can be kited easily and he infinitely scales because of his souls scaling champs are fun Senna and bard also scale like this so you constantly feel like you are growing stronger
@@monadoboy9639 I am yet to try Rakan, looking forward to it. I am more into modern supports rather than those ancient designs like Alistar or Morgana.
Finally someone makes a video about my precious boy, my main. Another cool thing, Thresh was the first support who was really dark, before tahm kench, pyke and senna, he was the only non-cutsy/goody supp
Thresh’s lantern even better then the video describes. The lantern area gives vision, meaning that it can be used as a ward, its best used in the tighter parts of the jungle where you might expect a jungler to be hiding, and from what i know, control wards and oracle lenses dont work on it, but i havent confirmed this but its possible. So you can basically place a short range ward at a long distance, meaning you are much safer compared to placing normal wards. And that sheild aspect of the lantern is also great, if you or a teammate walk into the lanterns circle, you gain a small sheild. Its small but if you are caught with your pants down or is about to get ganked with litte chance to escape, throw your lantern on top if yourself (only if you’re alone ofc). It will give you just that little bit more survivability due to the sheild, i often use the lantern to midigate the damedge a teammate will get if a tower is about to shoot them. Another thing you can do with the lantern is to throw it into a bush in or near your jungle, its hilarious to see two botlaners panic and put it in reverse because they think someone is gonna lantern to you when there isnt anyone there to use it. Its the small mindgames that can really fuck with the enemy team and give them second doubts about jumping onto you. And the ultimate is also a great ”fuck you, not today” tool for escape. If you see both botlaners and a jungler coming for you, just pop the ult so they either have to walk around it or get hit by it and get slowed, either way, you and your teammate are much more likely to survive and you stop the enemy from getting fed.
I feel like at his release, Thresh was popular because of 2 things. 1- He was cool from a thematic perspective, being a support who wasn't all cutesy and had a more edgy vibe . 2- For those times Thresh was actually overtuned AF, like, he could engage, disengage for himself, disengage a ally that got left behind, he could tank. at the time the only thresh couldn't do was saving an ally that already got the enemy teams damage dumped on them, to the point where only Lulu had as many effects/stuff she could do, but she is an enchanter so she didn't clash with was thresh did. With how riot makes champs today, I think they realised that they will never make something better than him, so they don't even try, and instead they make new supports by being sure to make them specialists or new concepts that don't fit into Thresh's place of doing a bit of everything.
He's the original overloaded character other than maybe also Yasuo, but although he's about mindgames, he's usually extremely "transparent" about what he's doing. He got a good hook, used lantern, timed his E well, etc. Not getting carried by 10 different passive effects. Everyone is "seeing" what's happening and that's extremely respectable. I always said even if Thresh's abilities literally did 0 damage, he'd still be one of the best/most fun supports to play with/against. That's a great selling point in my eyes.
Thresh is a crazy overloaded champ but people don’t mind because he’s a support. Lantern on its own is just the best supporting ability in the game. Add the rest of his kit which is above average and he is insane when looking at his kit as a whole.
Thresh was created by CertainlyT who was the first designer who started the power creep with overloaded champions. His champions are fun to play but a nightmare to play against. Thresh is no different, his kit was way more overloaded, and is still overloaded to this day. He is just loved regardless becuase he was the support who broke the support role, and honestly the entire game over his knee. Him also being a support had people turned a blind eye to him becuase he was the only entertaining support to play. He's the first playmaker ever made where as before it was just boring enchanters and wardens available. He's the reason mage and kill supports exist, you couldn't out support Thresh, you just can't. Maybe Janna, hence one of the seasons the only two supports viable was Janna and Thresh. The only way you can beat him is to make him explode and kill him. He is the true ruined king controlling Viego and all of the shadow isles. Viego was just his puppet, the ruined event proved this. Despite me saying all that, I'm personally one of the very very very few people who hated and still hates Thresh to this day. All CT Champs are they're just posted everywhere at the forefront, even when it doesn't make sense. However since his champions are always the most popular due to overloaded kits, they sell the most thus get most attention. Also hated constantly facing him back in early seasons since well, no support could out support him at the time, period. It was a complete lost when facing him in the old days as a traditional support.
Honestly a pretty based opinion, and while I’m not on the hate train I can agree that he is definitely overloaded, even if he’s more balanced nowadays - he just does everything you could ask for from an engage support so why would you play anyone else?
For me personally thresh is like an absolute unit. You can go anywhere. You can go bruiser, tank, supp, assasin, adc, ap thresh even jungle if you are brave enough.
I absolutely love Thresh. Definitely one of my favorite champions as a support main. I play him on Wild Rift. Few team mates understand or utilize his lantern, severely hampering the power of one of his skills, but the rest of his kit is so insane that it doesn't hold me back at all. He still has insane AOE lockdown, a long stun, outrageous late game tankiness, and deceptively high damage. It's not rare for me to go roaming in the mid game and solo kill enemies I bump into. Especially squishy mid lane mages, ooh la la how tasty! The empowered auto attack on Flay is huge for early game trades, chunking enemy ADC's. Being one of the few RANGED tanks is a huge advantage that hardly anyone mentions. The armor from his passive makes him the one support where I can actually feel like a mini raid boss by the end game.
After years of playing dota 1 (the warcraft mod) i decided to try league during s3. I got lucky that at that point there was an event with every champion available. tried lots of champions to see if i could find something similar to my favorite in dota (Pudge). While blitz was more similar, the moment I found found tresh, i inmediatly loved it, and decided i wanted to main it. At that time there was no help for new players, so you had to farm the resource to buy it (influence points, blue essence did not exist yet). It took a really long time, but i eventually bought it. So i had 3 champions in my pool, soraka, kayle, and thresh. two costing 450 and one costing 6300 (in today currency). What a weird champion pool i had. The others newbies i played with must have thought i was smurfing
Hes a super versatile and skill expressive/demanding support that can adapt to any situation. He enables just about most ADC's, scales late game thanks to his passive, and despite having a high skill ceiling can still be fair to play against after being mastered because hes a support. Thresh is an example of Rito checking all the marks. Meanwhile Irelia still exists who after mastery is a champion and a half.
When I first started playing, thresh was the first champion that really caught my eye. Of course i was brand new to mobas, so those growing pains were a bit rough lol. Eventually, he became my first m7 champ. The only game merch i ever got is thresh related. I guess i do love him
since when each wall can deal damage ? only the first wall deal damage, and that is why it is weak, such a huge area but only damages one champion, usually the tank just walk through it to save the carry
I should probably get back into playing Thresh. I remember when I washed to play a more engage support instead of just enchantresses, and my roommate suggested I learn blitz first to get a feel for hooks. Now I'm trying to make a point of learning every champ with a hook. Feels especially good when enemy team bans blitz and I jump ship to Thresh or Naut. Still can't get comfy on Pyke, but I think that's my computer and internet. And I'm more of a macro player cause I lag too much for good fight mechanics.
I lose my mind why Thresh is not seen as support by his lore "why is this guy a support? he is an edgy skeleton! XD" Thresh is a mastermind that pulls the strings in the background. He is not the most powerful guy around (like viego is) but he is the central piece that hides behind the shadows. I imagine Viego and Thresh as the 2 main villains of django unchained. Calvin (Viego) is the guy with the true power that rules the playfield and commands how things will play out but they are childsh and somewhat a bit dumb. Thresh (Stephen) is the true mastermind despite not having all the power and being below the other villain, but at the end of the day they are the one who set the game in the first place and when the powerful ones go away, it's natural for both to take the stage. So thresh is: -not the strongest guy around (till the end of the ruination event) -the smartest -the true mastermind behind it all who sets the pieces yeah, looks like a support.
The box is literally a Veigar E but with no stun, less range, more cool down, the walls of the box disappear when they hit an enemy and the slow is shorter than Veigar s stun. And it's still a great ult.
It's funny becuase his kit reflect his personality. He like to mess around with people. Read lower for spoilers: In one story for Ledros (yes the one from lor) if you notice the stroy starts with Thresh having Kalista memento. If you know Thresh, it's wierd that he just gives memento back when Ledros demands it. But at the end of the tale when he gave up and thrown away it to forget about Kalista, Thresh pick it up and say "he doesn't know how CLOSE he was". Thresh knew that Kalista, like Ledros almost remember her past but he gave up. And Thresh was waiting for his soul to return and show him memento to repeat cycle all over again.
Around the end of the video you mention playing neutral. As a big fan and long time player of smash bros, rivals of aether and other fighting games, it's a familiar term but I don't really know how it applies to league. Considering how in-depth it could be, it would make a great video idea! Love the videos and keep it up!
You didn't mention you can throw lantern to grab souls! Great for early game when the minion line pushes up past them and you don't want to walk near. Also great for making the enemy think your stealthed Twitch is hanging out nearby waiting for an ambush and easy escape.
I would guess Thresh ult is called the Box as that what Pinhead from Hellraiser series calls the Lament Configuration - the similarities for those who don't know the horror franchise from the 80's - The main threat of that universe is a bunch of chain whipping masochistic demon-like humans who went into such extreme physically hedonism that pain and pleasure became one to them and they wish to share their experience.
The amount of times I've hooked the charging volibear with 300 armor with thresh to deny his engage, and my teammates still jump on him like my dog who thinks he's starving because he hasn't been fed in 30 minutes, then yell at me for hooking the tank...trust me, thresh still has this problem lol
This is the #1 champion that I want in Wil Rift and the only one that will make me play support lol. I really hope he gets added, cause I might have to actually get a whole PC just so I can play him if he's not in Wild Rift soon enough. Damn this guy is so cool!
Next video :”why no one takes the lantern
Always fun when you toss in the lantern and the enemy team spams wards for your carries to attack instead of taking the lantern.
Hahaha
@@gabrieljoseozanan6989 I actually want to know if there's a counter to that.
Lmao
@@yoshishuhaist There isn't.
"Hey we have this ghost warden guy, his whole lore is that he's an asshole who loves torturing people"
"Yeah, make him a support."
I see no problem here
Same energy as, "Hey we have this undead assassin-looking dude who's ult encourages getting pentakills with music based on how high your multikill is." "MAKE HIM A SUPPORT."
@@danielzwirn5595 that is different
You are talking about kits while this guys is talking about lore
this really shows how the overly girly supports have destroyed your view on what the support role is.
@@kroneexe... girly?? 😭😭 just because theyre a supportive role doesn’t mean theyre automatically girly. theres other supports other than enchanters lol
-Fun
-Skill expression
-Well design and balanced kit
-Play making potential
-Multiple build paths, including troll and non-meta builds.
They don't make champs like these anymore.
@@luicifiero sad
Nothing beats throwing a lantern into the river brush, when nobody is there. and seeing the enemy duo go into an all out panic thinking your bringing your jungler to the fight.
Why didn't I think of this. I need to try this out.
@@asugarush8970 Have to make sure they have no vision on that area first. And do so while positioning agressively
@@asugarush8970 that is actually a godd strategy if you are a top tresh, if you don't want a full battle, do this and you should be covered.
@@asugarush8970 I knew about this play for a long time playing thresh but my elo is too low for my enemies to understand why I lanterned in my jungle.
fake gank is always fun
Thresh is an enigma to me. How they made a champion so overloaded (like Azir or Kalista) yet keep him relevant and balanced is beyond me. Such a good job
because he was way more overloaded than his current iteration and they had to gut him
but this time riot's done a good job of flaying Thresh to the point where he's not underpowered
@MangerzArt akshan was released or even teased 2 months after this comment was made.
because everyone wants to play the lee sin equivlant of support
Never thought of him that way, you’re right!
why? he isnt that flashy and doesnt have that high mobility. if you want to play the equivalent just pick lee sin support
@@yslmistersir hehe
You've never seen a max Range lantern flash hook huh? Watch a Madlife Thresh Montage they're fucking epic
@@yslmistersir thresh's kit isnt flashy? i mean yeah he doesnt have dashes but its so satisfying to land a clutch q, or save ur adc with w, etc.
@@Qweeby77 more satysfying to make a 4 man chinese insec with zhonyas at the end
In these clips alone there were so many times where the players just DIDN'T FRICKING TAKE THE LANTERN
I am sooo tilted
As a thresh main I am so mad at it as well
Dear tresh mains please understand that there are so many shitty autofilled supports Who lock thresh because they think they are madlife and if you click the lantern its a death sentence. So most of us adc players have a severe ptsd regarding lanterns
@@morningtide7956 as an irelia main I am so sorry, sometimes I am just too busy trying to aim minion or marked champion, I just do not notice your lantern
Yes omg that triggered me xD
Because he's the only champion with built in wifesteal in his kit
100% wifesteal is too much man should be nerfed
For a second I thought you meant lifesteak so I was confused
I was testing Senna once and I got paired with a Lucian on the bot lane and we had to face a Tresh as the other Support... He fucking singlehandedly swiped the floor with us.
@@ThyFloorestFloor lore accurate
@@apossiblyhereticalalphaleg3595 Yeah. The wifestealer did it again...
He is very cool
Resembles an undead but isnt in the 'ugly' section
Can save allies from impossible situations hence looking badass
Can make predictions of dashes --> looking cool
Has one of the best engage and disengage potential
2 days ago i predicted ezreal e, but failed the hook because i calculated wrong and was a bit far and the hook didnt got there, if hook has been a little bit longer it would have been a perfect prediction
@@JuanCarlos-qr9gd and would get clipped if it was perfect which is an insane feeling
In wild rift they ruined his face.
They gave him a human face.
"no one can save a teammate they way he can" *cries in tham kench w*
too short range, thresh can save you over walls
@@devforfun5618 but it makes you untargetable and can save you from things like karthus and vi ult
Old Tahm Kench W, definitely. Right now, eh, it can work but it isn't like it used to be.
@@devforfun5618 kench can grab you over walls, but since his kit has been stripped back so much over time he doesn't even qualify as a support much anymore, not that anyone ever runs at you to grab them over a wall even if you ping the spot they need to move to 35 times before the rengar finally reaches them.
especially the no bonus move speed, no more flashing with a teammate in your belly, reduced shield so you cannot buy as much time for your team, my poor fav champ, at least he finally gets his 5th skin now.
@@segafan2437 They really did Tahm Kench dirty, now all he's good for is trashing top lane bruisers in 1v1's and losing games because he falls of and contributes little late game.
5:00 every thresh main's lantern throw:
Tbh he did throw it where sylas would probably click the turret by accident
@@AgustinGonzalez-rx7sz ??? I don't think this is bronze, he better be able to click that.
I was so tilted when i saw this bc he even needed to stopwatch the tower shot
I find it sort of mind boggling how a champ has become arguably the best character in his role thanks to the sole purpose of being able to move himself, his teammates and his enemies.
It’s insane, his hook allows him to move himself and enemies, his W allows him to reposition his allies, his E is great for follow-up to his Q, as a peel tool, or just a simple engage to a skirmish. Of course his ult is among the strongest zoning tools in the game as well, buying his own team valuable space and potentially locking enemies out of a choke point.
Also the reason why you buy boots first thing. Movement is the most important part of the game.
Funny how Spirit blossom skin expresses his ingame (not exactly lore) personality. He is a nice caring guy helping his ADC, almost acting like a parenting figure, but to the enemies? He is like a warden, jury and judge in one person. Because executioner is his little ADC.
"Call me father if you wish"- Spirit Blossom Thresh
@@davidincii Thresh is daddy confirmed
Soraka only heals
Leona only engage
Velkoz deals dmg
Thresh is versitale
*Rakan cries in the corner*
No zoom zoom
Pyke only take the kill and leave you in lane alone.
Meanwhile in jungle and river, theres a wild bard
As a rakan main I agree brother 😔✊
@@gabeng60 I swear Rakan has way too many counters.... just let us W R at the same time and we'll be way better...
I've been a thresh main for years. we need more control type champions in the game. the main reason I love thresh so much is because I have a huge influence on where everyone is. enemies and allies alike. If I want some one somewhere I can in most cases put them there. and this fantasy is brought even further by spirit blossoms voice lines like "you know better" when landing a hook or flay, or when he says "wrong way" when hooking an enemy.
I want to summon Cryobeats here. He needs to be here even if he's a Thresh top main, I'll start some chant.
Crit Thresh, Crit Thresh, Crit Thresh.
Titanic hydra titanic hydra
Stride breaker, stride breaker
Frostfire Gauntlet, Frostfire Gauntlet
Galeforce, Galeforce, Galeforce
Oneshots! Oneshots!
To me Thresh is the perfect example of a fantastic overloaded kit. He does a lot, and he does a lot right, but he still feels fair to play against. Champs like Yone IMO are examples of terrible overloaded kits (partly duo bad balance). You have to be good at thresh to hard carry games.
So thresh is overloaded done right you mean?
@@thelordofthelostbraincells Yes. Maybe that defeats the purpose of "overloaded" but he does a lot of things and feels fair to play against. Obvious strengths and weaknesses
You’re right in that the flay passive isn’t very useful outside of one shot cheese late game, but early on it’s super useful for lane trading and securing cannon executes
Can i suggest a channel that might change your idea of e (flay) passive not doing sustain damage?
@@mr.sennin7923 oh i'm aware of Cryo's channel
@@mr.sennin7923 so infact actuall me and vars are wrong, if you build bruiser thresh it's actually not bad
@@yellowtrickster69 Hes honestly not, never played him support and do well in most matches in top
People have accepted Thresh because he's been there for a long time now, but he's still a 200 years champion. That guy can do anything a support would want to do but heal, and he deals much more damage than you may think
I have successfully 1v1 ed a tristana who had her bomb and her r as thresh at like 20 min. Granted I did destroy her in lane pretty hard. But still. (Full tank supp items btw no proper tank item)
he can heal with Font of Life. It makes it so allies hitting a cced or slowed enemy within get healed for like 5+1% of your max hp over 1.75s. Ain't much but it's there.
You forgot one of the lanterns extra utility functions. It actually has a small collision box that you can use to stop people from moving through certain areas if they take a corner too closely.
Its extremely small though so very hard to use properly and rarely worth throwing your lantern at an enemy but it does exist.
I didn't know it had a hitbox
"Any supports worth their salt has Thresh in their back pocket"
*Sweats nervously of Morgana*
that's a perma ban from me
Permaban Morgana as any engage support, there is no champion I hate to lane against more than her
@@acekotana4425 I will remember that
@@acekotana4425 the only time I don't ban her is when I'm going to play her
5:02 sylas refuses to click on lantern and burns his zhonyas
Spoiler, people play thresh bc every one of his abilities are play making abilities. He's loaded. Now time to see if I'm right.
Hit most of it. Just missed the versatility aspect.
I think it's more than that. his flay and ultimate double as peeling tools. his q doubles as a lockdown during team fights. and his lantern can either be used as an engage or to save your teammates from bad situations. this versatility is why I main him
I watched this after recently picking up thresh just looking learn about his lore and history but there seem to be many tips and tricks on how to play the champ in game and play mind games on the enemy. 10/10 video. Awesome stuff dude!
He's definitely a strong staple to have!
Because:
He's the biggest troll lorewise just hear his voicelines in LoR
What's that word you like using, oh yeah "agency" he got that
He had wifesteal
People watch Cryo
His personality, unlike a certain overtuned pony he's an undead with a personality
Too many people hold out the hope that they'll find that adc who knows how the lantern works
H O O K
And he can easily counter Overtuned Angry Pony
My favourite:
Lucian: "Set her free, you monster!"
Thresh: "No."
Here's a question: If Thresh stole Senna, and Senna stole Veigo's Wife; dosen't that mean Thresh had *200%* Wifesteal? He stole a wife who stole a wife.
What a great poem
@@raikaria3090 Isolde willingly latched onto Senna, so no Isolde was just running. Thresh just got lucky and hit the 2 for 1 torture jackpot
Edit: Which brings up the question why wasn't Thresh hounded by the black mist if he technically was in possession of a fragment of Isolde?
He does have an overloaded kit for a catcher support, his q has a long range and stuns for white a while as it drags you, and recasting it allow you to gap close to flay them towards your team. W is probably one of the strongest basic abilities in league and its defensive and offensive utility are great. I'd say the main thing that defines thresh his kit is one of the best engage and best disengage at the same time depending on the situation
I kinda expect "Why Everyone Plays Kai'Sa", But this one is probably a good alternative.
Why do i remember minus8 when i see your pfp
@@largocharles8729 bc it looks somewhat like gf animation
@@catrielmarignaclionti4518 mostly the character but yeah, they do have that same repeating animation
Well this comment aged like milk
Bard may not have as much disruption in a fight as chain skeleton, but he is very good at messing with enemies like a Shaco. This champ is the expert of tilting people who chase him through the jungle just to get stapled to the wall and watch the cosmic beanbag skip away unharmed or jump into his glowing wormhole (and if you follow through that you will just get stunned again and be in a worse position).
Pyke, Rakan, Bard and Thresh are the only real skill expressive supports, which is why most people who actually climb in the role prefer those champs, even if they are not ideal/meta.
In general if you are a Lulu, Yuumi or Sona player, you coinflip your team having the better adc and get rewarded for playing reactively instead of proactively, which is 10x easier.
There is a bit more skill to engage, but not mechanically, you just need to be proactive and have macro to wins games.
The music in this video is like, 75% the Skyrim main theme and I can't pay attention on anything else
i think thresh is awfully attractive and i don't know why
i know why
*cause he is*
Spirit blossom thresh...
u know who is more attractive? vars voice, now imagine vars doing tresh voicelines
@@2narikai645 S tier
Ikr
Riot games needs to take a long hard look at thresh for their champ design.
He is built to fit a class, but not bound to it like how Nilah is made to be an ADC and punished if she isn't (passive) or how Pyke is made to be a support but can't solo lane (passive, q, e). Thresh can go top, jungle, mid and sometimes even crit adc.
His abilities are everything you could need but at the same time so simple. Thresh's kit is perfect. His identity is clear and his champion design and lore fit it. He has scaling, a hook with a self dash and 2 pulls, a self/ally shield and ally dash, an aoe multi-purpose enemy displacement in any linear direction and a cage of walls that basically root but are difficult to make super useful.
Thresh has a low-medium barrier to entry but an unlimited skill cap. Additionally, Thresh either has no counterplay or all the counterplay in the world. It just depends on how good you and your opponents are.
Despite how packed with options Thresh's kit is, nothing is out of place. When you're building a champion, your reason for adding anything at all into their kit should never be "because why not." And to tell if a champion has been built really well, look at their abilities and try to reason their existence as if you were a Riot employee. E.G. Thresh lantern, "so that he can get his allies to enemies that he has captured."
Now, try to reason something like Akshan passive shield with his design/identity and you hit a roadblock. Why DOES a rogue Sentinel of Light get a shield when he shoots someone? or Why DOES a marksmen who stalks enemy champions in stealth and bursts them get a shield? It just doesn't line up in the way Thresh's abilities do.
So, in conclusion Riot games should do the following to design GOOD champions that will last a long time.
- Design them to fit a role but make them flexible and don't lock them to it.
- Give them abilities that work with and off each other. Do not load them with tools for every scenario, give them a distinct specialisation and make their abilities fit.
- The champion has to have a good design. Lore is often left out of the equation nowadays but champions like Thresh and Jhin really make you feel like an evil terrifying ghostly abomination that stalks enemies and binds them in chains, dragging them to their doom. Or an unnerving, psychopathic murderer with OCD on the number 4 that creates art in the face of death. These things are reflected in gameplay.
- Finally, nothing should be thrown into the champion because "why not." Everything, every single part of that god damn champion needs to be intentional, needs to fit and needs to make sense.
Thanks for coming to my ted talk.
Yes
This one only needs 1 sentence of explanation:
Because he has everything, both things needed and things being fun gimmicks.
To write it out:
His lantern is both massive utility AND fun to use, his Flay is so multi-purpose it´s almost criminal and he has a non-commiting Blitzcrank hook that stuns for longer.
His passive soul-collecting feels rewarding to look at, his ult is great at zoning and debilitating enemies and last but not least his E passive, which grants this satisfying one HUGE auto attack after not attacking for a while.
In other words, he is legitimately the best support Riot ever intentionally created.
And while I believe Braum is the best support thematic-fitting-wise, Thresh is the best in pay-off.
Hello Vars. I've loved your content for a bit, and saw in a poll you were starting a series called "perfectly designed." May I suggest Rakan? I might be a little biased here because I main him, but I believe I main him because of his great design. Here is a few reasons I believe he is a perfectly designed champion:
[1] Rakan is an extremely mobile champion done right. Most players like high mobility champions, but dislike dealing with them. Specifically, because they one-shot you and get away instantly (*ahem* Katarina). Rakan, on the other hand, rarely ever can one shot you, unless very fed while building ap midlane. Rakan's mobility is also tied directly to his team, which creates the challenge for rakan players to keep an eye on their team at all times, as your team is your engage, your disengage, and one of the main ways to hit R.
[2] Rakan's kit is lore accurate, and he fits into the lore of League. Rakan and Xayah fit very well in the universe of runeterra, and therefore feel more like a real League character compared to a lot of other new releases, not naming names. More importantly, I believe Rakan's kit accurately represents his lore and personality extremely well. He is a dancer, and while playing rakan, you truly feel like you are dancing through the battlefield, dodging attacks and charming enemies. Rakan also rewards a very high risk high reward playstyle, where if you go in and hit a massive 3 man W and R, you can turn the tides of a fight instantly. However, if anywhere in that process you get hit by a single morgana root, you really can't do much and just die due to rakan's squishiness. It fits very accurately with Rakan's no plan, in the moment style he has in the lore, as with rakan in game, you can't plan everything out. You have to react to where your teammates are so you can E, where your enemies are in relation to your team, and everything in between.
[3] Rakan is a unique champion. Rakan's design is unique from every other champ in the game. He plays a role similar to that of engage tanks such as rell, but isn't tanky (unless you build tank but I'll get to that later). Rakan is a hard to kill engage support not because of raw armor and MR numbers, but because he is hard to hit. He is basically a movespeed champion, as his dash's speed scales with his movement speed, and rakan often builds items such as Shurelya's (r.i.p. mythic passive), staff of flowing water, and mobility or swiftness boots.
[4] Rakan is versatile. Rakan is an extremely versatile champion that can be played in many ways. Both me and a friend of mine play a ton of rakan, but we play him completely different when it comes to runes and items. Some play rakan with Aftershock and build a mobile engage tank. Some build rakan with guardian and build an mobile engage enchanter style. Some go electrocute in the midlane. He can fit into most team comps well, and build what is needed for his team at the moment.
[5] Not many people hate Rakan. Despite being a mobile skill champ, which are often disliked, very rarely do you see people ban rakan or go "ugh, this champion is overloaded." Playing as or against rakan always feels like a skill matchup, and not really that rakan himself is an overloaded champion.
Anyways, thanks for coming to my TED talk. I probably forgot a few things, but I feel like this should be enough reasoning.
As a fellow Rakan main I couldn’t agree more. I support but play a very aggressive midlane-like build with electrocute that focuses on damage and ability haste, and it works wonders if pulled off at the right time
Thresh is what made me get into league. His design seemed interesting to me. Thresh will always be played because his kit is dynamic and will always work. Even if he isn’t meta he is still playable.
Versatility. You have a number of options to do, instead of one combo over and over and over. Good CC, skill required kit and overall amazing personality
But Riot is going to kill him with constant nerfing
@@indrickboreale7381 it needs to, hes kit is to complete lmao
Loved your video!
Also adding to what you said about the support role, most people think that a support player is the one that gets carried yet most teams wouldn’t win a 4 vs 5 without a support
Im a top lane main but whenever im autofilled, i always go thresh. His playstyle is amazing. Beautiful design. Amazing lore. Doesnt have almost any weakness tho.
5:00 when will people learn to TAKE THE LANTERN
Thresh is the ONLY engage type support champion that I play because all the others ones bore me to tears lol. Naut, Leona, Blitz all have basically one job but Thresh is so so versatile in every situation that it seems like he was made for my style of playmaking.
He's a very safe first pick if you're experienced on him and his potential grows the more you invest time into him. I have most of my points in Soraka lmao, but ever since picking up Thresh, I've realized how game changing he can be. Love this video, what an awesome champ!! :D
When I got into League I remember the client had images of champions while the game was downloading
And I instantly fell in love with thresh just by looking at him
I just thought "wow that guy looks sooo cool"
Then I rerolled three champion shards because back then you could do that since blue essence wasn't merged with influence points just yet and I got Thresh
He was also the first skin I ever got in the game
I love playing him so much, he's just so versatile and fun
What I love most about Thresh is that he incredibly different from the rest of the supports; he isn't designed to be cute or "E-girly" but as a relentless monster, in fact he is the first scary monster champion that happens to be a support. When I see supports like Soraka, Lulu or Leona I always think that these champions can't really defend themselves not just because of their kit but also their design. But as for Thresh I always see him having the ability to carry for his adc for how versatile his kit is and his appearance backs up the fact he can do it. And he feels really oppressive when you lane against him.
"When u stare down a really good thresh player, you play by HIS rules" got chills from that
For thresh being supportive of his allies despite his character and design is for some reason why i liked him
I just love him because he doesn't require seven fingers per hand and the hand speed and flexibility of a Power Metal guitarist to play. The cool Thresh plays are usually mind games. Lee Sin players have to, like, hit Q, take the dash, put down a ward and W to it to cancel the animation, then buffer the kick and flash behind the enemy for some fancy schmancy compilation play. Meanwhile, I just gotta read someone's mind :>
Bro is playing like a fighting game
Honestly to me it's the fact that he's a ranged tank usually a tanks biggest weakness is you have to get in melee range and can't do much poke or can be kited easily and he infinitely scales because of his souls scaling champs are fun Senna and bard also scale like this so you constantly feel like you are growing stronger
Ranged, but considered melee for items and thats huge. Not sure if mentioned in the video.
@@Rosaslav yeah still he has more range than a traditional tank so does Rakan and that just makes Thresh and Rakan feel more fluid to play it's great
@@monadoboy9639 I am yet to try Rakan, looking forward to it. I am more into modern supports rather than those ancient designs like Alistar or Morgana.
I find zed to be an insanely interesting and expressive character, but idk if I see him enough to warrant a why everyone plays
Finally someone makes a video about my precious boy, my main. Another cool thing, Thresh was the first support who was really dark, before tahm kench, pyke and senna, he was the only non-cutsy/goody supp
Really great video as always. Thresh and Bard are just the best supports, there are so many different ways they can play the game
I stand by my statement 8 years ago. Even if Thresh's abilities did 0 damage, he'd still get picked for his utility.
When you get hooked through 3 Teemo mushrooms.
5:03 did that sylas just decided to waste his stopwatch instead of clicking the lantern?
"Oh the eternity we shall spend together."
great video - that throwback to Piccaboo at worlds shows why Thresh is the best support. No other support could have done that play
11:40 now we know why lucian isnt really a viable adc. Cause he can dodge everything and still get autod to death by a thresh.
Thresh’s lantern even better then the video describes.
The lantern area gives vision, meaning that it can be used as a ward, its best used in the tighter parts of the jungle where you might expect a jungler to be hiding, and from what i know, control wards and oracle lenses dont work on it, but i havent confirmed this but its possible.
So you can basically place a short range ward at a long distance, meaning you are much safer compared to placing normal wards.
And that sheild aspect of the lantern is also great, if you or a teammate walk into the lanterns circle, you gain a small sheild. Its small but if you are caught with your pants down or is about to get ganked with litte chance to escape, throw your lantern on top if yourself (only if you’re alone ofc).
It will give you just that little bit more survivability due to the sheild, i often use the lantern to midigate the damedge a teammate will get if a tower is about to shoot them.
Another thing you can do with the lantern is to throw it into a bush in or near your jungle, its hilarious to see two botlaners panic and put it in reverse because they think someone is gonna lantern to you when there isnt anyone there to use it. Its the small mindgames that can really fuck with the enemy team and give them second doubts about jumping onto you.
And the ultimate is also a great ”fuck you, not today” tool for escape. If you see both botlaners and a jungler coming for you, just pop the ult so they either have to walk around it or get hit by it and get slowed, either way, you and your teammate are much more likely to survive and you stop the enemy from getting fed.
“Someone you’d probably crack open a cold one with” I mean yeah, if by “cold one” you mean a corpse
And by “you” you mean a corpse
Can I just say you’ve picked A1 songs for every single video I’ve seen of yours so far. Music Taste: S+
I kinda wish we had song lists in the description
i remenber i played thersh for the first time 2 years ago , might start playing him again this seassion
I feel like at his release, Thresh was popular because of 2 things.
1- He was cool from a thematic perspective, being a support who wasn't all cutesy and had a more edgy vibe .
2- For those times Thresh was actually overtuned AF, like, he could engage, disengage for himself, disengage a ally that got left behind, he could tank. at the time the only thresh couldn't do was saving an ally that already got the enemy teams damage dumped on them, to the point where only Lulu had as many effects/stuff she could do, but she is an enchanter so she didn't clash with was thresh did.
With how riot makes champs today, I think they realised that they will never make something better than him, so they don't even try, and instead they make new supports by being sure to make them specialists or new concepts that don't fit into Thresh's place of doing a bit of everything.
He's the original overloaded character other than maybe also Yasuo, but although he's about mindgames, he's usually extremely "transparent" about what he's doing. He got a good hook, used lantern, timed his E well, etc. Not getting carried by 10 different passive effects. Everyone is "seeing" what's happening and that's extremely respectable. I always said even if Thresh's abilities literally did 0 damage, he'd still be one of the best/most fun supports to play with/against. That's a great selling point in my eyes.
0:59 So that's why my ADC's flame when "I don't heal them" as Yuumi literally right after I heal them.
Yummi players quietly reading the book
Vars : Shutttt upppp
When playing duo bot with Thresh.
Please
scream: LAAANNNTTTEEERRRNNNN
Thresh is a crazy overloaded champ but people don’t mind because he’s a support. Lantern on its own is just the best supporting ability in the game. Add the rest of his kit which is above average and he is insane when looking at his kit as a whole.
Thresh was created by CertainlyT who was the first designer who started the power creep with overloaded champions. His champions are fun to play but a nightmare to play against. Thresh is no different, his kit was way more overloaded, and is still overloaded to this day. He is just loved regardless becuase he was the support who broke the support role, and honestly the entire game over his knee. Him also being a support had people turned a blind eye to him becuase he was the only entertaining support to play. He's the first playmaker ever made where as before it was just boring enchanters and wardens available.
He's the reason mage and kill supports exist, you couldn't out support Thresh, you just can't. Maybe Janna, hence one of the seasons the only two supports viable was Janna and Thresh. The only way you can beat him is to make him explode and kill him. He is the true ruined king controlling Viego and all of the shadow isles. Viego was just his puppet, the ruined event proved this.
Despite me saying all that, I'm personally one of the very very very few people who hated and still hates Thresh to this day. All CT Champs are they're just posted everywhere at the forefront, even when it doesn't make sense. However since his champions are always the most popular due to overloaded kits, they sell the most thus get most attention. Also hated constantly facing him back in early seasons since well, no support could out support him at the time, period. It was a complete lost when facing him in the old days as a traditional support.
Honestly a pretty based opinion, and while I’m not on the hate train I can agree that he is definitely overloaded, even if he’s more balanced nowadays - he just does everything you could ask for from an engage support so why would you play anyone else?
For me personally thresh is like an absolute unit. You can go anywhere. You can go bruiser, tank, supp, assasin, adc, ap thresh even jungle if you are brave enough.
He is probably the best designed Support, Same with Yuumi and Bard
Everyone hates yuumi
@@apollyon1311 yeah because she's good lol
So is shaco sp n tristana midlane against a meele champion. Fair.
@@sebsdemise shes not
@@sebsdemise i mean if u confront her with other supps
He has some of the best lines and his laugh it top tier
“What delightful agony we shall inflict….”
I absolutely love Thresh. Definitely one of my favorite champions as a support main. I play him on Wild Rift. Few team mates understand or utilize his lantern, severely hampering the power of one of his skills, but the rest of his kit is so insane that it doesn't hold me back at all. He still has insane AOE lockdown, a long stun, outrageous late game tankiness, and deceptively high damage. It's not rare for me to go roaming in the mid game and solo kill enemies I bump into. Especially squishy mid lane mages, ooh la la how tasty! The empowered auto attack on Flay is huge for early game trades, chunking enemy ADC's. Being one of the few RANGED tanks is a huge advantage that hardly anyone mentions. The armor from his passive makes him the one support where I can actually feel like a mini raid boss by the end game.
Thresh does say "It's over when *I* say." He's not just a play making supporter, he is *the* playmaker.
When i first started playing i thought he was a midlaner and was old fiddlesticks' brother lmao
I mean ur not wrong
After years of playing dota 1 (the warcraft mod) i decided to try league during s3. I got lucky that at that point there was an event with every champion available. tried lots of champions to see if i could find something similar to my favorite in dota (Pudge). While blitz was more similar, the moment I found found tresh, i inmediatly loved it, and decided i wanted to main it.
At that time there was no help for new players, so you had to farm the resource to buy it (influence points, blue essence did not exist yet). It took a really long time, but i eventually bought it.
So i had 3 champions in my pool, soraka, kayle, and thresh. two costing 450 and one costing 6300 (in today currency). What a weird champion pool i had. The others newbies i played with must have thought i was smurfing
Now you see it: 1:57
Now you don't: 2:02
*M A G I C*
Hes a super versatile and skill expressive/demanding support that can adapt to any situation. He enables just about most ADC's, scales late game thanks to his passive, and despite having a high skill ceiling can still be fair to play against after being mastered because hes a support. Thresh is an example of Rito checking all the marks.
Meanwhile Irelia still exists who after mastery is a champion and a half.
When I first started playing, thresh was the first champion that really caught my eye. Of course i was brand new to mobas, so those growing pains were a bit rough lol. Eventually, he became my first m7 champ. The only game merch i ever got is thresh related. I guess i do love him
since when each wall can deal damage ? only the first wall deal damage, and that is why it is weak, such a huge area but only damages one champion, usually the tank just walk through it to save the carry
I should probably get back into playing Thresh.
I remember when I washed to play a more engage support instead of just enchantresses, and my roommate suggested I learn blitz first to get a feel for hooks. Now I'm trying to make a point of learning every champ with a hook. Feels especially good when enemy team bans blitz and I jump ship to Thresh or Naut.
Still can't get comfy on Pyke, but I think that's my computer and internet. And I'm more of a macro player cause I lag too much for good fight mechanics.
Great video. Are you planing to make this kind of video (Wnop, why everyone plays or perfectly designed champion) for every character in league?
The music this episode was so good, so fitting, amazing.
thresh's lantern also collects souls, he can use if he is zoned from the wave to collect the souls
Can also use it to scout in bushes
Yep. Been playing basically only Thresh since 2014. Love that dude
Ooo im hyped for this one but too bad ill be in classes when this premiers
I lose my mind why Thresh is not seen as support by his lore "why is this guy a support? he is an edgy skeleton! XD"
Thresh is a mastermind that pulls the strings in the background. He is not the most powerful guy around (like viego is) but he is the central piece that hides behind the shadows. I imagine Viego and Thresh as the 2 main villains of django unchained. Calvin (Viego) is the guy with the true power that rules the playfield and commands how things will play out but they are childsh and somewhat a bit dumb. Thresh (Stephen) is the true mastermind despite not having all the power and being below the other villain, but at the end of the day they are the one who set the game in the first place and when the powerful ones go away, it's natural for both to take the stage.
So thresh is:
-not the strongest guy around (till the end of the ruination event)
-the smartest
-the true mastermind behind it all who sets the pieces
yeah, looks like a support.
I like evil supports.
Or morality questionable supports.
Thresh and Renata glasc for reference
That Final Fantasy in the back
I hope one day u make a: Why nobody plays: Bard, hope he's on your list!
The box is literally a Veigar E but with no stun, less range, more cool down, the walls of the box disappear when they hit an enemy and the slow is shorter than Veigar s stun. And it's still a great ult.
It's funny becuase his kit reflect his personality. He like to mess around with people.
Read lower for spoilers:
In one story for Ledros (yes the one from lor) if you notice the stroy starts with Thresh having Kalista memento. If you know Thresh, it's wierd that he just gives memento back when Ledros demands it. But at the end of the tale when he gave up and thrown away it to forget about Kalista, Thresh pick it up and say "he doesn't know how CLOSE he was".
Thresh knew that Kalista, like Ledros almost remember her past but he gave up. And Thresh was waiting for his soul to return and show him memento to repeat cycle all over again.
13:12 "probably someone you'd crack open a cold one with" XD. Some how I think you'd find your soul taken...
Around the end of the video you mention playing neutral. As a big fan and long time player of smash bros, rivals of aether and other fighting games, it's a familiar term but I don't really know how it applies to league. Considering how in-depth it could be, it would make a great video idea! Love the videos and keep it up!
You didn't mention you can throw lantern to grab souls! Great for early game when the minion line pushes up past them and you don't want to walk near. Also great for making the enemy think your stealthed Twitch is hanging out nearby waiting for an ambush and easy escape.
He has playmaking kit that stood the test of time, there, that's why
8:27 the enemy Pyke hooking my 5/0 ulting Aatrox in Q3 animation onto himself agrees xD
I FINALLY KNOW THE SONG! But on another note, beautiful video my guy. I now want to dump time into Thresh now.
I would guess Thresh ult is called the Box as that what Pinhead from Hellraiser series calls the Lament Configuration - the similarities for those who don't know the horror franchise from the 80's - The main threat of that universe is a bunch of chain whipping masochistic demon-like humans who went into such extreme physically hedonism that pain and pleasure became one to them and they wish to share their experience.
thresh is like the ak47 rifle on t-side in cs...you gotta learn him if you play support !
This made me a proud Thresh
The amount of times I've hooked the charging volibear with 300 armor with thresh to deny his engage, and my teammates still jump on him like my dog who thinks he's starving because he hasn't been fed in 30 minutes, then yell at me for hooking the tank...trust me, thresh still has this problem lol
This is the #1 champion that I want in Wil Rift and the only one that will make me play support lol. I really hope he gets added, cause I might have to actually get a whole PC just so I can play him if he's not in Wild Rift soon enough. Damn this guy is so cool!
Thresh was my first main. I take pride in my playing.