I went through heaps of guitars and never wanted an SG. Finally tried one and low and behold its the guitar i probably always needed. Its light. No neckdive on mine. Access to all the frets. Thin body. Easy to play. Nice bright crunchy rough rawk sound!. so easy to play.
@@jesterjigs9914 Negative. Not in the Zip Code bubba. Neck joins at entirely different fret # affecting tone, balance and physically where the pups line up to your wrist naturally - not even close to LP. Much lighter thinner body must affect tone and most important LOOKS way cooler than LPs. Remember the SG is top selling Gibson every year it has been out to replace the failed Les Paul that was selling only about 600 a year in late 60s thus - SG Power !! I would also say more Rock Guitar Gods played SGs by far than LPs off top of head a 5:1 ratio SG to LP heroes.
@@timmotel5804 To tell you the truth, when I first bought the SG, I didn't know anything about all this. After a while and after playing other guitars, I realized that the frets on my SG were very low. But they were installed correctly, no complaints about the build quality whatsoever! So I had the guitar refretted with medium jumbos
@6stringbelief oh I know! If I did it'd be a special with p90s to compensate for the single coils. Those guitars are becoming quite popular from what I've heard.
Truly the neck dive issue is the big one for the SG. Definitely requires a bit of searching to find the right one. The longer reach only took me a few minutes to adjust to but others may just not care for the feel and therefor find the SG unsuitable for them. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
@@shadsguitarshow Totally. Nothing has a sweeter twang than a Tele. You need them all, including a Strat, which is the best designed guitar of all time.
I have a bad back and was looking for a light guitar mainly - never ever even thought about getting an sg but got a good deal on a Gibson Tribute SG and ordered it . boy I’m in love , it’s the most comofortable guitar I ever owned in 15 years of playing
I had the most expensive 2017 Gibson SG Heritage Special in Cherry Red. I did not like it because it had really bad neck dive. Other than that I liked it a lot. I bought a Cherry Red Epiphone SG 400 Pro for 1/4 the price a few years prior to purchasing the Gibson! I still have the Epiphone. It's thicker and a little heavier but it still has all the SG attributes and it plays well while not having the pronounced neck drive of the Gibson (which I gave to a good friend as a gift). In fact I am playing my Epiphone SG 400 Pro today! - Peter age 74
I bought an Gibson SG Special with the P90’s and was planning to get a Gibson LP for the humbuckers. However, went to my local GC to test drive the LP’s and for $1K less saw a wonderful 61 SG Standard with the Burstbuckers that sounded great and again for reasons mentioned in this video, became the guitar I walked out of the store with. It’s a blast to A/B both SG’s into my Vox AC15 and discover the tonal differences between them.
I’m a Strat tele single coil kind of guy but also love Gibsons. Had maybe 6-7 Les Paul’s I let get away. Just bought an SG Standard and can’t put it down! Playability and tones are fantastic. This one is a keeper. Really enjoyed your video.
Good video....I have a 2017 SG faded T and a new 61 tobacco sunburst standard...had a Les Paul tribute with weight relief...as a guy who is a working class driving trucks for a living and being a musician part time..the SG is easier to play with certain ergonomic issues like carpo tunnel in wrists and shoulder issues
I totally agree! I’ve been playing SGs since I was 16, and I just turned 55. I currently own three, along with a Les Paul, 335s, and other Gibsons as well. It’s always been the coolest looking, the most playable (high fret access), and the weight is perfect. Plenty of tone without having to break your back.
I fully agree i went into a guitar shop to see what guitar was the most comfortable and the sg hands down beat everything, even the strat. Great video man❤
Honestly never experienced neck dive with my 61 standard…just using the leather Gibson strap it came with, has enough grip underneath to keep it in place. Rock on! 🤘
my 61 sits pretty too. I think the smaller, old school head stock helps with that. I also have a SG special with modern head and neck join and that dives like a MOFO.
I own a 1991 SG special and i LOVE it!! Mine does not have neck dive so maybe im fortunate , i have played several that dive , The neck on mine just fits my hand, it plays like a dream and it sounds great as well , i love putting in middle positionand rolling the tone pot off the bridge pickup to taste,, what a sweet tone !!
I have 3 Les Pauls and 2 SG's. I still come out on the side of a Les Paul by a smidge. Besides the fret accessibility, I've found them to be easier to set up for how I want a guitar to feel. But hey, there's a reason for the SG's. They Rock!
Hey! Hope everyone is doing well!! I currently own a 2010's Gibson Les paul 50s tribute with p90s (baseball bat neck ❤). '19 SG standard, and a Memphis made '16 es-335. Love each one! Tone for miles with each of them!
Thanks for this video, nice playing. My fairly similar SG (sorry not a Murphy though) had severe neck dive when I got it. I replaced the heavy Grovers with lighter Klusons, which helped. Then I put a Bigsby on it with a Towner down-tension bar mounted on the studs. It feels great now, no neck dive. Another trick is to put some kind of weight in the control cavity, like metal beads in a bag to fit in the area. I’ve done it and it helps.
That’s a great idea about putting something in the control cavity! Never would’ve thought of that, but makes total sense! I’ve had a couple of SG’s with the maestro Vibrola and they never seem to have neck dive so the Bigsby / Towner thing makes sense as well.
The trick is to buy a heavier one. :) I know, many want light guitars, but even a "heavy" SG is still only in the 7.5 lb range... less than most strats and definitely less than a Les Paul. Sometimes, the right strap will remedy neck dive. If you use a wide (2.5-3") leather or in my case, vegan leather style strap, it will help immensely. Another thing I do to help neck dive is to replace the lightweight aluminum stop bar tailpiece with a heavier steel or zamak one. I put a locking Tone Pros tailpiece on my most recent '61 Standard, as well as added the lightweight Klusons. It helped. And, if you really want to stop neck dive and don't care about resale, moving the strap button to the end of the top horn like Tony Iommi does. Gibson even started doing this on the new SG Supreme and of course Tony's signature model.
@@Darth.Shredder those are definitely some awesome tips and great ideas so thank you for sharing! I totally agree about the strap thing! Sometimes just using a strap that isn’t too smooth or slick will grip a bit on your shirt. Slightly heavier bridge parts makes sense as well.
@@shadsguitarshow Thank you, and thanks for the great video! I've played SG's forever and agree with you... It really is all you need in a humbucker style guitar... of course, that doesn't stop most of us from buying a ton of other guitars anyway. :)
I was lucky enough to get a 2013 SG Future. It has 24 frets, an asymmetrical neck, Steinberger High Precision Locking tuners. The guitar has so little neck dive because of the light Steinberger tuners that it is balanced with a normal strap. The neck is fantastic and the sound is wonderfully versatile. Whether clean, crunchy or in a hard rock sound, it is one of the best guitars I have had in my hands in the last 35 years. I think this guitar is underrated in many ways. I use it in 2 cover bands and cover everything that is needed from pop, jazz, blues to metal. Sometimes I have to switch to a Strat, but that does not detract from the genius of this guitar.
Had Les Pauls in the past. Switched to SG's and a Firebird and haven't looked back. Never had an issue with the dreaded neck dive with either. Wider suede straps help prevent that. My SG is sub 7lbs.
Love the video. My first guitar was a 59 les paul junior and years later found a 61 les paul sg junior. I had problems with "neck dive" so I sort of stayed away. Currently I have a Stratocaster (which for a lifelong gibson guy is kinda like charging religeon) and Rickenbacker 360 which is a totally different trip. I do now have a 2017 SG which I thi k they call the "faded" model. Because of this video I am pulling it out of the closet and see what cool s__t I can do with it
My Sg will be put in the ground with me when I leave this world, I pick mine up more than any guitar I own, it is great for playing in a band because it’s light and perfect for playing setting down in a chair what more could you ask for.
I have an original ‘61 “SG Les Paul”. I just had some work done … replaced the heavier Schaller tuners with the original lighter weight Klusons . Also went back from a brass bridge to an ABR-1 . Also got a Zero Gravity strap . I now have no neck dive … none at all . These straps LEKATO) are great . So my guitar has been functionally brought back to life . Had it since the 70s . Plays and sounds better than ever . Falling in love with it . BTW my main guitar for 40+ years is a real ‘58 Strat . So … different. I have a nice little collection of other instruments … But I’m digging into and focusing on this SG again . Fun to explore the possibilities .
I never thought about trying an SG until two months ago I found a guy selling a rarely played 61 reissue for a good price. I thought I'd give it a try... and immediately knew I had to take this one home. It has a minimal neck dive so I bought a suede strap and so far this works fine for me.
@@jonnor_893 I have a custom nut that was filed properly, and it stays in tune for about 3 weeks at that time the nut lube wears off and the strings start getting stuck again. I'm told the main issue is the radical angle of the headstock. I've heard winding the string >UP the post helps Gibson style guitars stay in tune better. Would higher tuning posts also help?
I owned/cycled through over 20 guitars before I bought my 1985 Gibson SG Standard and honestly I got rid of nearly all the rest of my guitars for that reason! It’s so versatile, comfortable and looks great no matter what type of music you play! I have since got a Les Paul again (sold mine cause I didn’t need it) and I use my SG for damn near everything! 🔥
I have a 64, standard ( modified ) tuners etc,, I have played it, and loved it for 51 years, I agree with you on the "COOL" factor, Overall a Great guitar, Peace
Never owned an SG, though I've played a few. As with any guitar, it's all about finding the right one. If we want to talk neck dive I think of a Gibson Firebird. Most I've played were super neck heavy. I love the look and sound of a Firebird. I finally found one that wasn't neck heavy and I'm really satisfied with it.. The same would go with a SG. Nice video. Thanks.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts! I agree that the Firebird is one cool looking, Guitar! I had a 1965 non-reverse that I sold a couple of years back and have always regretted it.
I've got the 02 faded with the ebony fret board and crescent moon inlays. It's got 57 classics in it and a fat 50s neck. It was a gift from my son. But I mostly play a beat-up partscaster tele that I wound the p'ups for, and by some crazy stupid luck, they sound phenomenal.
I've got an ebony epiphone SG ...lately I've been studying cream and geoge harrison revolver sound ...theas are fun to play it became my favorite guitar !
Yeah! Cream era Clapton with the “fool” SG is awesome! And Harrison’s Revolver guitar tones are excellent as well! Awesome examples Anne! Sounds you found a great SG! Enjoy!
@6stringbelief thanks its only an epiphone g 400 from 2009 ...the only difference is its made with Indonesian mahogany and wood binding it has grovers and locktone bridge rosewood fingerboard with alnico plus covered pickups plus its the pearl inlays not the dots on the set kneck ..the specs are very good for a £300>£400 guitar !!....the cream album with all the live radio broadcasts is very good I'm loving that ..I think k its called .."transmition impossible"??...but worth listening to as every song is played differently, and it's the SG he was using at that time as well !
I absolutely love my little SG. I jut don't know how you can afford a murphy lab SG. That had to cost some bucks. I love my epiphones,always play great for me. For all the reasons you said, my lil G is a beast.
Murphy Labs are a bit pricey, yes. But you certainly don’t need a Murphy or Custom Shop to enjoy what the SG design has to offer! Your Epiphone models are killer guitars!
I'm a lifelong SG fan, though I don't own one at the moment (hoping I can get a new one next year). Murphy Labs are awesome - I have a ML Les Paul that I will never sell.
I have always said the only Gibson I like is the SG!! They’re light,comfortable to play, and sound great!!!! One of my favorite guitars in my collection to play.
I’ve owned a lot of different guitars over the years and finally got a 2022 Silver Mist Gibson SG Standard. No doubt the best guitar I’ve ever owned! Subscribed to your channel. 🎸
I have a 61 ri with Fralin pure PAF’s. I purchased it this way. I’m wondering if I’d like different pickups better. The Fralin are clearly great pups but sometimes I feel like they lack a little body….
Changing pickups is the best way to get more out of a guitar that you love. So many amazing builders out there that make amazing buckers. Find someone selling some old Patent Number pickups and slap them in there and blow your mind. They aren't as rare and expensive.
Hey Bob! I have those pickups in my Novo Serus J and they sound great in that guitar but I know how pickups can sound fundamentally different in different guitars. Lots of great options in the aftermarket for pickups! I’ve really enjoyed Throbak HB’s although they are expensive. Check out the Triple Clone set from Arcane Pickups! Rob makes wonderful pickups!
As long as you know build quality is good, I use ANY cost of pickup with the "right" stats. You really don't need ones wound by blind Tibetan monks using magnets cast from the swords of dead ninjas. They don't boost skill.
@@shadsguitarshow Ideal for stats and build quality: Classic 57+ bridge and Pure 90 in the neck. About 250 dollars. Budget: Artec LPA210 Alnico 5 and Warman bridge HBp90 in neck. About 60 dollars.
1st time hearing your reaction and now im a subscriber. Im a novice guitarist at best, but it doesn't stop me from collecting guitars. That an the Sweetwater payment plan. @ any rate , ive been able to purchase reasonable facsimile s of my guitar heroes of my youth, mostly EPIPHONE models and 1 Gibson LP Studio Plus are in my possession. But the last 2 purchase s were the Squier 70s Tele with The wide rage Humbucker in the neck and hot single coil with vintage tele twang in the bridge. As mentioned b4 about heroes, tho id seen many players with the SG , and are great guitar players both SG icons Tony Iommie and Angus young never really grabbed my ear like it did millions of fans . Finally after watching another reaction on the EPIPHONE SG Classic Worn Cherry with P 90s, i took the plunge. The reaction s lead me to believe that P 90s were just out of this world with bright snappy tones. Upon unboxing the SG. I was so amazed at the sonic tonality and control ability this guitar possess s. The point s you make are completely valid . Mine weighs a scant 6lbs 6 ounces, with minimal neck dive , not as much as my EPIPHONE Firebird. I say all of this to say both that SG and that Squire 70s CV Telecaster are and absolute delight to play either one , but id truly have to give the slightest edge to SG as the most versatile, cuz lets face it we buy a Tele cuz we want that Unique Telecaster sound. Looking forward to your next reaction.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts Billy! Sounds you’ve acquired some really fine instruments! Glad to hear one of those is your beloved epi worn cherry P90! I’ll bet that’s a fun guitar! I hear you about Iommi and Angus… not a huge fan myself. I do love the cream era Clapton SG stuff as well as the southern rock / jam band guys like Derek Trucks who are doing fantastic things with the SG. Thanks for subscribing!
@6stringbelief Derek Trucks is just a slide monster. I'm sure Duane Allman is smiling down on him everyday. And lest we forget the Newly designed Susan Tedeschi Telecaster model and her incredible talent. As for my SG. Your right it's delightful to play and 2bh the Worn finish has much more beauty to it visually than 1 might expect. I plan to acquire another SG in time, but which one??? But one thing I prefer and I've heard numerous other people disagree is , I LOVE THE FULL BAT WING PICK GUARD. I mean really, when do you ever see a bat with only 1 wing???
My 99 SG Special is a workhorse. Put in some SD Saturday Night Special Pickups and it goes from 70's rock to blistering punk/metal. Nothing it can't handle.. Great guitar.. Need no other..
Over the years I had played many types of electric guitars. But really stayed with the Les Paul and Telecaster... I tried some SGs but they were just copy types and never felt quite right for me... I recently got the buzz for a gibson sg... and went the store to try a 61 standard and a full pickguard standard.. I liked the 61 but it felt too slim on the neck for me.. Then I tried the full pickguard and I was blown away by the wider neck feel and the full fat but articulate mid range tones coming out of the 490T 490R pickups... It sounded amazing and felt amazing.. I was getting tones that I had been looking for with my Les Paul but could never quite get.. The thinner body seems to pronounce the crunchy organic roar that this guitar produces whilst accommodating some amazing warm or bright clean tones through to silky leads... I walked away with a beautiful heritage red SG Standard... Its definitely a guitar that quickly becomes addictive to pickup and play..
It's the second time I'm watching this vid and I just haven't let go of the SG. Haven't picked up my Les Paul or 335 or any Fenders it's been SG everyday. I guess you were right, wow, it just feels right.
This year, I got into SGs. First with a bare bones Special, which I love. Then I got the custom shop 61 LP SG Standard. For me, it’s the least expensive way to enter the Gibson Custom world, and I love it. Speaking of weight… My special is 6 lbs 6 oz… neck dives. The 61 (stopbar, no vibrola) weights 6 lbs 5 oz. No neck dive. I can jump and it will stay in place. Strange to me. But I love them both.
The Specials are such cool animals! Sounds like you found a couple good one. And you are right they are a great way to get into the Gibson custom world at a reasonable price.
I'm with you buddy. My Gold SG with P90s is my no. 1 live guitar. No need to switch guitars during a long set. It can do everything, fat Les Paul tones, spanky Tele tones with the volume rolled back & out of phase Straty tones in the middle position with a phase switch on a push/push tone pot. Keep up the good work brother. Gerry
I've had mulitple Les Pauls, CS, 3 USA ones, a Heritage, a Tokai and right now I have an Eastman LP type that I adore. Last year went into a PRS rabbit hole, and for some reaosn never considered the SG. I think it was because was never sure how bad the neck dive was, but also never liked that when I checked on an SG they seem to always have thin neck. But I started this year to have a bug for an SG, and I pulled the trigger for a 2021 Standard one. I only tried and SG years ago for less than a minute. But wow...it is indeed its own thing. Very different feel to play than a LP. I can see why some people love it and others dont like it much, which is fine. I really liked it. But what mostly suprised me is what you mentioned of the tele on steroid thing. the R8 did that and my current Eastman with a pickup swap does it also, and I really like it. But the SG makes it even more, lol. That was very interesting, cos I really never knew what the SG sound was. Plays awesome, standing up is a joy to play, the upper fret access is so so nice, is very loud unplugged, and that bite in the tone, has that attack which is awesome. I wont say its my favorite type of guitar (just go the SG this week, so still getting into it more and more) but I wouldn't be surprised if it takes that spot, or if it becomes a favorite just like LP's and PRS's. So glad I went for it. I really thought I would like it a lot, but you never know hehe. And is fantastic.
Nice! Thanks for sharing this! Sounds like you e caught the SG bug as I have! They really are something special! Out of curiosity, what pickups did you put it your R8?
I just got an SG after having a Les Paul for years, and I can’t quite get a good feel for it. It has a different sound that I like, but I feel the Les Paul is way more comfortable to play. I will say the more I play it, the more I love it. It’s the new ‘61 reissue in tv yellow. Looks a lot like the one you are playing here.
SG (2004 special - ebony FB, 59 neck, 490T) is the only Gibson I use all the time, alongside a strat, tele and tele deluxe. I did put a HB-p90 in the neck though. When anyone asks for a great LP tone, I use the SG. (I do remote sessions a lot). I do have a couple of LPs.
So back in the 70's, being influenced by Pete Towshend, I got a cherry SG, and loved it. It was a very high quality guitar and I loved the tones it could get. Since I also play bass and didn't have a guitar amp, it sounded different being played through a bass amp. They are fun to play.
@@shadsguitarshow He did a lot with that guitar, and I don't believe he was using effects, just those British High watt amps I believe. The guitar is a genius in design, with its pickups and 2 volume and 2 tone controls. Townshen had the top notch road crew, because I'm sure you saw the footage at Woodstock, where he threw it toward the audience and the crew recovered it so it could be played again and again.
Love that color !! I always see cherry red transparent or black SGs but that vintage white looks amazing. Too bad I can't afford a Murphy Lab, but good on you, mate ! 👍
Neck dive not a problem on mine either! I think the heavy metal Grover tuners make a difference. It's a nice looking guitar and access to upper frets is amazing. Only minor downside is the reach to the nut, it's a little bit of a stretch; if you're a bit taller I guess this would be less of a problem. Sounds great too, mine's got that characteristic bark to it.
Love my Gibson SG Tribute, it does just about everything and doesn't wear me out. I love LP as well but I can not really get comfortable with it in a seated position for some reason.
As of September 2024, the only Gibson model I’ve purchased is a 2009 Les Paul Goldtop that I got preowned 9 years after it was bought by the original owner. I was tempted to also get an SG Standard in 2019 when two of them were for sale at a Guitar Center here in NYC for $1,195 apiece before tax. I had plugged each of them in at least once, and I could sense the appeal in both of them, even with the combination of the top heaviness and the idea that a professional grade Gibson at that price was too good to be true. Postpandemic when I spoke to a GC employee, he told me I made the better choice and not getting one of those guitars. I think he said they weren’t worth it. I still have had occasion to consider trading the Les Paul I mentioned above for an SG. Even though I have enjoyed picking up SGI models on the floor and playing them, I still think this Les Paul may be the only Gibson model I ever get (unless I find myself coming into a Hummingbird acoustic).
The gold top is definitely a cool choice and it sounds like you found a good one! Although I will say that the price on those SG models you talk about does seem really good so if one of them was really inspiring, it might’ve been cool to grab one of those as well.
I have had a ‘98 SG since 2001. As a rock n roll machine it’s unparalleled: the neck is chunky, which may not work for everyone but it has stayed true all these years. The 490 humbuckers are powerful, thick and distinctive-nothing else sounds quite as good. I’ll fool around with other guitars but I always come back to the sg.
Great video! The SG is a killer workhorse guitar, provided you get one with a balanced weight! I must admit tho that I feel the Explorer is Gibson's best design. Definitely try one out if you haven't! They're unfortunately typecast as a metal guitar, but they do so much more. Some hidden gems of the Explorer design: -6 in-line headstock (seems to stay in tune better ime) -simplified control layout in an easily-accessible straight line (never needed a second tone and the controls/jack layout on the SG and Firebird feel cramped in comparison) -side mounted jack keeps the cable out of the way -balanced weight -surprisingly ergonomic retro-futuristic design -solid upper fret access -tonal sweet spot between SG and LP ...only downside is the massive case.. so I hope to own an SG someday for that reason ahaha
I totally agree on the Explorer! I’ve had a couple of the reissue ones and they really are awesome! So thanks…. Now I’m thinking about how I need an Explorer! Haha. Thanks for sharing your thoughts Jake! 🙌
I agree. { weak point the headstock,bust 3 )Tele custom and sg are my favourite guitars of all time. Played all models and makes ( bar specialist makers ) les paul great but the weight puts me off. For a gigging guitarist sg with hb or p90's hard to beat. Love the colour of your Murphy Labs.
I never used to like the SG. The body shape is what turned me off about the guitar for the longest time. It wasnt until a friend showed me his SG Standard. He got it as a high school graduation present, then it lived in its case collecting dust for 5 years. When he showed it to me it looked rough. The finish wasnt banged up or anything like that, but it just needed some love. i begged him to let me borrow it to get it all cleaned up, restrung, and provide a basic set up on it to get it purring again. He let me hold onto it for 2 weeks and within that 2 weeks i fell in love with that guitar. It feels amazing to play, but the thing that had me sold was its tone. It was easily my favorite humbucker guitar i have ever played and definitely changed my mind about the SG. It was a very sad day when i had to give it back to him especially knowing that it is back in its case not being played. 😢
Great story! Thanks for sharing! I agree about how sad it is when a beautiful old (or new) guitar is resigned to live in a case and not do what it was designed to do… make music!
Great video. I've just got my SG standard 61' today. I totally agree with you. Amazing tones in a much more playable package. Coming from LP, SG is way more comfortable, light and enjoyable.
SG is my favorite guitar as well! The neck dive problem can be solved with a tailpiece like the Derek Trucks SG model, which comes with a faux Lyre tailpiece. It helps to distribute the weight better and does not affect the playability because it's only aesthetic. Eric Clapton's 'The Fool' guitar has also a tailpiece
I think a lot of it comes down to knowing what makes each of “the three” great, knowing why you reach for it and knowing which specs to look for. The SG has an iconic natural midrange that to me always sounds better with lower output PAFs. But over the years Gibson started using hotter and hotter pickups eventually throwing that balance way off. My perfect SG ended up being a CS ‘61/‘59 “Fat neck”. A basic VOS ‘61 with an R8/R9 neck profile.
I totally agree, each one has its place, but as I mentioned in the video on strictly speaking, for which one I would grab, if I wanted to cover the most ground! There are definitely things a 335 will do that neither an SG or LP will do. I definitely prefer a little bit beefier neck as well. I agree on the pick up output as well.
1964 Gibson SG Special. Heavily modded before it dropped into my hands. Routed out for a full size Humbucker at the bridge. The P-90 simply did not fit the sound of the Humbuckers tone and volume So I didn’t want to do any further routing so I dug out and old Epiphone mini humbucker and using an old P-90 cover I made a mount. It sounds amazing. The Mahogany was a perfect match for the both of them and using them in parallel clean with a touch of chorus is a sound to love. Especially using it in church. And for Heavy Metal.
I owned SG and now own Epiphone Coronet which is very similar in terms of ergonomics and general feel of the guitar. I tried a lot of different strap options, I added weight to bottm end of the guitar - it helped a little, but not enough. For me personally Les Paul capable of doing anything that SG can. And also it is just more comfortable to play because of better weight disrtibution and better stability on the strap. So now I'm selling my Coronet to buy Les Paul and continue play rock'n'roll with maximum joy
I agree on the SG. Best guitar Gibson ever created. No guitar is perfect, but the SG is great. I love how they play, sound, and look. Nothing looks cooler than an SG. I also think you are right about the high end. It's just sweeter and pops out more than on a Les Paul. I'm also not a big fan of maple caps, and the maple cap only adds to the weight of a Les Paul. I can't stand heavy guitars. The SG is a classic for a number of reasons, and you've named them all. Keep rocking.
Tried about a dozen Les Pauls at the Sam Ash on W. 48th in NYC. Didn't like the necks and the upper fret access, so I then tried roughly half a dozen SG Standards (block inlays, vibrola, etc.) and found one I could bond with. This was in 1971. It was a great "learning" guitar and also great live. Unfortunately, my amp was a '70 Twin with JBLs and, while it could hold its own with a Marshall stack, it was impossible to get "my" tone at anything less than face-melting volumes. I would have been better off with a Vibrolux or Bandmaster or Bassman.
My sg is currently a les paul... I perfer sg's but sold mine to keep my les paul. I agree the sg is a superior guitar than the other gibsons, but the les paul has me on one thing, looks. I'm definitely looking to add an sg back into my collection. Infact that's the very next guitar purchase for me
I have more guitars than I can properly maintain. But my absolute favorite is a 1997 SG special. Got a standard too. I love all of them, but the '97 special just rips! My brother said, "That's the angriest sounding guitar I've ever heard!" That was just a low-mid gain tone, not heavily distorted. Has so many options just clean. Love that one!
I am the original owner of a 74 SG Special with the mini humbuckers. The guitar is fifty years old and it gets that Tele sound really well because the minis have lower output.
Greatest-sounding and looking electric guitar ever made! I bought my first Standard back in 1991, and never looked back. Of course, I've owned many other brands and models of guitar over the decades. But the SG is my main axe.
Got Strats, Teles and an LP. I had a very nice Tokai SG which looked and sounded amazing but was a "neck diver", which I found irritating. It never sat right in my hands and I ended up flogging it years later for way more than I paid for it. That said, SGs are very nice-looking and sounding guitars if you can get the right one and can get on with it. Definitely a guitar I'd want to try out before buying.
@@shadsguitarshow, for sure. Gibsons are incredible guitars but understandably very pricey. Many years ago, I played an extremely heavy black Gibson LP at Bonners Music Store in Eastbourne, UK. It was utterly to die for but the weight put me off a little and it was £2K, which back in the day was a lot for a working family man to find. Apparently, the late Gary Moore, who was living just down the coast in Brighton at the time had been in a couple of days before and also played the same guitar. I ended up passing but still wanted an LP so a year later, I picked up a new Epi LP Plus Top Pro, which is a little lighter and has been a truly amazing guitar for the money, satisfying my need for the LP sound in my home studio. I have an American Strat which cost me a fair amount, a Mexican Tele and a surprisingly well set-up Black Squier Affinity Strat for hauling around to jams etc. I play a lot of acoustic too so my small collection of electrics more than satisfies my needs and fully fills the time I have off from running my business to play. I must say, you really got some great sounds out of the SG in this video; great playing and I enjoyed listening.
I went through heaps of guitars and never wanted an SG. Finally tried one and low and behold its the guitar i probably always needed. Its light. No neckdive on mine. Access to all the frets. Thin body. Easy to play. Nice bright crunchy rough rawk sound!. so easy to play.
That sums it up. When you find the right one, it’s magic!
It's a les paul anyways lol
Same here, I always said SGs weren’t for me until I found the right one and now it’s probably my desert island guitar
@@Fabh83 that’s the key. Finding a great one!
@@jesterjigs9914 Negative. Not in the Zip Code bubba. Neck joins at entirely different fret # affecting tone, balance and physically where the pups line up to your wrist naturally - not even close to LP. Much lighter thinner body must affect tone and most important LOOKS way cooler than LPs. Remember the SG is top selling Gibson every year it has been out to replace the failed Les Paul that was selling only about 600 a year in late 60s thus - SG Power !! I would also say more Rock Guitar Gods played SGs by far than LPs off top of head a 5:1 ratio SG to LP heroes.
Bought my SG Standard back in 1978 - still love it!
Good Day. Did you need to have your frets adjusted after you bought your SG New? Or, were they OK from the factory??
@@timmotel5804 To tell you the truth, when I first bought the SG, I didn't know anything about all this. After a while and after playing other guitars, I realized that the frets on my SG were very low. But they were installed correctly, no complaints about the build quality whatsoever! So I had the guitar refretted with medium jumbos
I have an SG and A Tele…
That’s all you need. You can do everything with that combination and a good amp
I have to agree! Spot on.
Is it bad that I wanna trade my tele for an sg? 😅
@@theiranxican7412 not at all! The Tele is great too though! Can’t go wrong with either!
@@theiranxican7412 look at Harley Benton guitars. Nice guitars for killer prices!!!!
They have Sg and teles inexpensive and reliable
@6stringbelief oh I know! If I did it'd be a special with p90s to compensate for the single coils. Those guitars are becoming quite popular from what I've heard.
Neck dive and the longer reach. They will always be the SGs weaknesses. But you’re right about the coolness factor.
Truly the neck dive issue is the big one for the SG. Definitely requires a bit of searching to find the right one. The longer reach only took me a few minutes to adjust to but others may just not care for the feel and therefor find the SG unsuitable for them. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Not all SGs neck dive. Mine doesn’t. But I’ve played SGs that did and it’s annoying (although a good strap is all you need to fix the issue)
@@Fabh83 unless it’s really bad, a good strap will usually fix it, yes!
Mine doesn't dive.
@@TexasBlues-123 I don’t think most of them do.
I agree. But I still think 335 and Epi Casino are a must have, even if they aren't as cool looking or ergonomic.
I agree! I’ve got a great 335 and I’d also add a telecaster to the “must have” list.
@@shadsguitarshow Totally. Nothing has a sweeter twang than a Tele. You need them all, including a Strat, which is the best designed guitar of all time.
Awesome Intro! And love that color on the SG! My fave Gibson, have a Cherry 61 reissue and it's great
Thanks Dan! A cherry ‘61 is about as classic as it gets! Thanks for sharing!
I have a bad back and was looking for a light guitar mainly - never ever even thought about getting an sg but got a good deal on a Gibson Tribute SG and ordered it . boy I’m in love , it’s the most comofortable guitar I ever owned in 15 years of playing
Thanks for sharing! Glad you found a great one!
The SG is so versatile. I play everything with my custom shop 61; from blues, rock, prog, shoegaze, jazz, disco, funk....
Couldn’t agree more! Super versatile! Thanks for sharing.
Not too heavy.
@@shadsguitarshow I disagree only angus young and Tony iommi play an SG and both are metal guitarist es 175 is the most versatile guitar
@@toneyisaiah3556 the body is so thin the neck is most of the guitar’s weight
@ ES-175 (or any fully hollow guitar) is a feedback machine if you’re playing with gain though.
Nice presentation. The SG is on my bucket list. I do
agree it is a very cool looking instrument. Thank you.
Thanks man! Hope you get a great one!
I had the most expensive 2017 Gibson SG Heritage Special in Cherry Red. I did not like it because it had really bad neck dive. Other than that I liked it a lot. I bought a Cherry Red Epiphone SG 400 Pro for 1/4 the price a few years prior to purchasing the Gibson! I still have the Epiphone. It's thicker and a little heavier but it still has all the SG attributes and it plays well while not having the pronounced neck drive of the Gibson (which I gave to a good friend as a gift). In fact I am playing my Epiphone SG 400 Pro today! - Peter age 74
I suppose the extra weight of the Epi makes the difference!
I bought an Gibson SG Special with the P90’s and was planning to get a Gibson LP for the humbuckers. However, went to my local GC to test drive the LP’s and for $1K less saw a wonderful 61 SG Standard with the Burstbuckers that sounded great and again for reasons mentioned in this video, became the guitar I walked out of the store with. It’s a blast to A/B both SG’s into my Vox AC15 and discover the tonal differences between them.
Humbuckers & P90’s are both so great! Especially with that AC15 chime!
Great job
Love the intro solo!
Always have known this
SG rules! Own a couple of LP,V’s, Explorer they’re all great but my SG’s are the best by far !
Agreed! There are many great Gibson models, but the SG really is the king!
I couldn't cope with the neck dive with SG's. Went over to Vee's.
Those are cool too! 🙌
Idk... i LOVE my '61 RI, but I also love my mid 90's V and really, really want an explorer...... and..... and.... lol
We always want just one more, right! 🙌🏼
I’m a Strat tele single coil kind of guy but also love Gibsons. Had maybe 6-7 Les Paul’s I let get away. Just bought an SG Standard and can’t put it down! Playability and tones are fantastic. This one is a keeper. Really enjoyed your video.
Thanks Don! I appreciate your commenting! I do like a good Strat and Tele also! Sounds you also found a great SG! 🙌
I own 6 SG’s. It’s my favorite model
Wow! That’s a lot of SG’s! They are amazing!
@ 2 ‘61 reissues (black & cherry), Inverness green Captain, cherry Iommi monkey, white Pete Townsend 50th anniversary, and a black SG-3
@ great collection! Love the see the PT!
@ sounds great with the black P90’s
Good video....I have a 2017 SG faded T and a new 61 tobacco sunburst standard...had a Les Paul tribute with weight relief...as a guy who is a working class driving trucks for a living and being a musician part time..the SG is easier to play with certain ergonomic issues like carpo tunnel in wrists and shoulder issues
I tonally agree! I have 3.
Awesome! 🙌
I totally agree! I’ve been playing SGs since I was 16, and I just turned 55. I currently own three, along with a Les Paul, 335s, and other Gibsons as well. It’s always been the coolest looking, the most playable (high fret access), and the weight is perfect. Plenty of tone without having to break your back.
Absolutely agree on all points!
Holy crap that intro sounded good.
Thank you so much! 🙌
Absolutely! That's the Kemper, right, not the Carr? What pickups are in your beautiful SG?
Picking up a Derek Trucks model this week... Can't Wait
Those look awesome! Let me know what you think!
I fully agree i went into a guitar shop to see what guitar was the most comfortable and the sg hands down beat everything, even the strat. Great video man❤
Thanks so much for sharing your comments and I couldn’t agree more!
Honestly never experienced neck dive with my 61 standard…just using the leather Gibson strap it came with, has enough grip underneath to keep it in place. Rock on! 🤘
Yeah! Sometimes a great strap is all you need!
my 61 sits pretty too. I think the smaller, old school head stock helps with that. I also have a SG special with modern head and neck join and that dives like a MOFO.
@@Les537 you’re probably right about the headstock size.
I own a 1991 SG special and i LOVE it!! Mine does not have neck dive so maybe im fortunate , i have played several that dive ,
The neck on mine just fits my hand, it plays like a dream and it sounds great as well , i love putting in middle positionand rolling the tone pot off the bridge pickup to taste,, what a sweet tone !!
Thanks for sharing Jim! Sounds like you’ve got a good one! I’ll have to try the middle position setting / bridge tone idea you mentioned
I have 3 Les Pauls and 2 SG's. I still come out on the side of a Les Paul by a smidge. Besides the fret accessibility, I've found them to be easier to set up for how I want a guitar to feel. But hey, there's a reason for the SG's. They Rock!
Sounds like you’ve got your bases covered! There’s no disputing that the LP is a heck of a guitar!
Totally agree, I'm hooked on my SG
They are great, aren’t they?
That's cause there's big two hooks on it
Hey! Hope everyone is doing well!! I currently own a 2010's Gibson Les paul 50s tribute with p90s (baseball bat neck ❤). '19 SG standard, and a Memphis made '16 es-335. Love each one! Tone for miles with each of them!
Yeah! Sounds like a wonderful collection! Thanks for sharing Jimmy!
Thanks for this video, nice playing. My fairly similar SG (sorry not a Murphy though) had severe neck dive when I got it. I replaced the heavy Grovers with lighter Klusons, which helped. Then I put a Bigsby on it with a Towner down-tension bar mounted on the studs. It feels great now, no neck dive. Another trick is to put some kind of weight in the control cavity, like metal beads in a bag to fit in the area. I’ve done it and it helps.
That’s a great idea about putting something in the control cavity! Never would’ve thought of that, but makes total sense! I’ve had a couple of SG’s with the maestro Vibrola and they never seem to have neck dive so the Bigsby / Towner thing makes sense as well.
The trick is to buy a heavier one. :) I know, many want light guitars, but even a "heavy" SG is still only in the 7.5 lb range... less than most strats and definitely less than a Les Paul. Sometimes, the right strap will remedy neck dive. If you use a wide (2.5-3") leather or in my case, vegan leather style strap, it will help immensely.
Another thing I do to help neck dive is to replace the lightweight aluminum stop bar tailpiece with a heavier steel or zamak one. I put a locking Tone Pros tailpiece on my most recent '61 Standard, as well as added the lightweight Klusons. It helped.
And, if you really want to stop neck dive and don't care about resale, moving the strap button to the end of the top horn like Tony Iommi does. Gibson even started doing this on the new SG Supreme and of course Tony's signature model.
@@Darth.Shredder those are definitely some awesome tips and great ideas so thank you for sharing! I totally agree about the strap thing! Sometimes just using a strap that isn’t too smooth or slick will grip a bit on your shirt. Slightly heavier bridge parts makes sense as well.
@@shadsguitarshow Thank you, and thanks for the great video! I've played SG's forever and agree with you... It really is all you need in a humbucker style guitar... of course, that doesn't stop most of us from buying a ton of other guitars anyway. :)
@@Darth.Shredder exactly! We can’t just have one, right??
I was lucky enough to get a 2013 SG Future. It has 24 frets, an asymmetrical neck, Steinberger High Precision Locking tuners. The guitar has so little neck dive because of the light Steinberger tuners that it is balanced with a normal strap. The neck is fantastic and the sound is wonderfully versatile. Whether clean, crunchy or in a hard rock sound, it is one of the best guitars I have had in my hands in the last 35 years. I think this guitar is underrated in many ways. I use it in 2 cover bands and cover everything that is needed from pop, jazz, blues to metal. Sometimes I have to switch to a Strat, but that does not detract from the genius of this guitar.
Never tried that model but it sounds very interesting!!
Had Les Pauls in the past. Switched to SG's and a Firebird and haven't looked back. Never had an issue with the dreaded neck dive with either. Wider suede straps help prevent that. My SG is sub 7lbs.
Glad to hear you found some great guitars that work for you! I’ve always been curious about Firebirds! Is yours regular or non-reverse?
@@shadsguitarshow Non-Reverse
@ nice. 👍🏼
Love the video. My first guitar was a 59 les paul junior and years later found a 61 les paul sg junior. I had problems with "neck dive" so I sort of stayed away. Currently I have a Stratocaster (which for a lifelong gibson guy is kinda like charging religeon) and Rickenbacker 360 which is a totally different trip. I do now have a 2017 SG which I thi k they call the "faded" model. Because of this video I am pulling it out of the closet and see what cool s__t I can do with it
Sounds like you’ve got some awesome guitars! I’m glad the video inspired you! Enjoy!
My Sg will be put in the ground with me when I leave this world, I pick mine up more than any guitar I own, it is great for playing in a band because it’s light and perfect for playing setting down in a chair what more could you ask for.
Agreed on all points! 🙌
i got one last week and i love it!
Which one did you get?
I have an original ‘61 “SG Les Paul”. I just had some work done … replaced the heavier Schaller tuners with the original lighter weight Klusons . Also went back from a brass bridge to an ABR-1 . Also got a Zero Gravity strap . I now have no neck dive … none at all . These straps LEKATO) are great . So my guitar has been functionally brought back to life . Had it since the 70s . Plays and sounds better than ever . Falling in love with it . BTW my main guitar for 40+ years is a real ‘58 Strat . So … different. I have a nice little collection of other instruments … But I’m digging into and focusing on this SG again . Fun to explore the possibilities .
That’s awesome! Always nice to refresh and reconnect with an old friend like your SG! Love to see that ‘58 Strat!!
I’m 57, got my first LP last year.
My first SG this year.
Getting another SG soon. They are blues machines!!!
They sure are! Congrats on the LP and I hope you find the perfect new SG!
I never thought about trying an SG until two months ago I found a guy selling a rarely played 61 reissue for a good price. I thought I'd give it a try... and immediately knew I had to take this one home. It has a minimal neck dive so I bought a suede strap and so far this works fine for me.
So many people never thought they would be an SG fan until they tried one! That was me too! 🙌
If only mine would stay in tune longer than half a song.
Sounds like maybe it needs some work on the nut?
If your Gibson doesn't stay in tune it's an issue with how the nut is slotted. Mine was filed by a pro luthier and it stays in tune perfectly.
@@jonnor_893 this is so true! Generally a poorly cut nut accounts for most tuning issues.
@@jonnor_893 I have a custom nut that was filed properly, and it stays in tune for about 3 weeks at that time the nut lube wears off and the strings start getting stuck again. I'm told the main issue is the radical angle of the headstock. I've heard winding the string >UP the post helps Gibson style guitars stay in tune better. Would higher tuning posts also help?
I owned/cycled through over 20 guitars before I bought my 1985 Gibson SG Standard and honestly I got rid of nearly all the rest of my guitars for that reason! It’s so versatile, comfortable and looks great no matter what type of music you play! I have since got a Les Paul again (sold mine cause I didn’t need it) and I use my SG for damn near everything! 🔥
Yeah man, sounds like you’re feeling exactly the same way I am! There just really isn’t anything I can’t do with my SG!!
I have a 64, standard ( modified ) tuners etc,, I have played it, and loved it for 51 years,
I agree with you on the "COOL" factor,
Overall a Great guitar,
Peace
Thanks for sharing, Robert! I’d LOVE to have a vintage one. I’ll bet that thing is amazing and it’s so cool you’ve had it so long. 🤘🏼
I just recently started playing again my SG Jr, fell in love all over! so just got an SG standard in aged cherry. They truly are glorious guitars!
I’d love to grab an SG junior at some point as well! But the standard is the perfect beast! Thanks for sharing!
Never owned an SG, though I've played a few. As with any guitar, it's all about finding the right one. If we want to talk neck dive I think of a Gibson Firebird. Most I've played were super neck heavy. I love the look and sound of a Firebird. I finally found one that wasn't neck heavy and I'm really satisfied with it.. The same would go with a SG. Nice video. Thanks.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts! I agree that the Firebird is one cool looking, Guitar! I had a 1965 non-reverse that I sold a couple of years back and have always regretted it.
Hello! I'm with you in this boat! Love my SG. Yours looks amazing. How is that vintage white colour called?
Mine is called aged Polaris White!
I've got the 02 faded with the ebony fret board and crescent moon inlays. It's got 57 classics in it and a fat 50s neck. It was a gift from my son. But I mostly play a beat-up partscaster tele that I wound the p'ups for, and by some crazy stupid luck, they sound phenomenal.
I've got an ebony epiphone SG ...lately I've been studying cream and geoge harrison revolver sound ...theas are fun to play it became my favorite guitar !
Yeah! Cream era Clapton with the “fool” SG is awesome! And Harrison’s Revolver guitar tones are excellent as well! Awesome examples Anne! Sounds you found a great SG! Enjoy!
@6stringbelief thanks its only an epiphone g 400 from 2009 ...the only difference is its made with Indonesian mahogany and wood binding it has grovers and locktone bridge rosewood fingerboard with alnico plus covered pickups plus its the pearl inlays not the dots on the set kneck ..the specs are very good for a £300>£400 guitar !!....the cream album with all the live radio broadcasts is very good I'm loving that ..I think k its called .."transmition impossible"??...but worth listening to as every song is played differently, and it's the SG he was using at that time as well !
I absolutely love my little SG. I jut don't know how you can afford a murphy lab SG. That had to cost some bucks. I love my epiphones,always play great for me. For all the reasons you said, my lil G is a beast.
Murphy Labs are a bit pricey, yes. But you certainly don’t need a Murphy or Custom Shop to enjoy what the SG design has to offer! Your Epiphone models are killer guitars!
Should I get some of those cheesy blinky lights? Maybe that's what I'm doing wrong.
Could be.
I'm a lifelong SG fan, though I don't own one at the moment (hoping I can get a new one next year). Murphy Labs are awesome - I have a ML Les Paul that I will never sell.
Yes, I totally agree Chris the Murphy lab stuff is next level!
I have always said the only Gibson I like is the SG!! They’re light,comfortable to play, and sound great!!!! One of my favorite guitars in my collection to play.
I agree 100%!
I’ve owned a lot of different guitars over the years and finally got a 2022 Silver Mist Gibson SG Standard. No doubt the best guitar I’ve ever owned! Subscribed to your channel. 🎸
Thanks for your comment and for subscribing! Glad you found your own awesome SG!
I have a 61 ri with Fralin pure PAF’s. I purchased it this way. I’m wondering if I’d like different pickups better. The Fralin are clearly great pups but sometimes I feel like they lack a little body….
Changing pickups is the best way to get more out of a guitar that you love. So many amazing builders out there that make amazing buckers. Find someone selling some old Patent Number pickups and slap them in there and blow your mind. They aren't as rare and expensive.
Hey Bob! I have those pickups in my Novo Serus J and they sound great in that guitar but I know how pickups can sound fundamentally different in different guitars. Lots of great options in the aftermarket for pickups! I’ve really enjoyed Throbak HB’s although they are expensive. Check out the Triple Clone set from Arcane Pickups! Rob makes wonderful pickups!
As long as you know build quality is good, I use ANY cost of pickup with the "right" stats. You really don't need ones wound by blind Tibetan monks using magnets cast from the swords of dead ninjas. They don't boost skill.
@@Dr-Curious haha! I get your point but I have to say I’d love to the set you hypothetically just designed!! 😂
@@shadsguitarshow Ideal for stats and build quality: Classic 57+ bridge and Pure 90 in the neck. About 250 dollars.
Budget: Artec LPA210 Alnico 5 and Warman bridge HBp90 in neck. About 60 dollars.
1st time hearing your reaction and now im a subscriber. Im a novice guitarist at best, but it doesn't stop me from collecting guitars. That an the Sweetwater payment plan. @ any rate , ive been able to purchase reasonable facsimile s of my guitar heroes of my youth, mostly EPIPHONE models and 1 Gibson LP Studio Plus are in my possession. But the last 2 purchase s were the Squier 70s Tele with The wide rage Humbucker in the neck and hot single coil with vintage tele twang in the bridge. As mentioned b4 about heroes, tho id seen many players with the SG , and are great guitar players both SG icons Tony Iommie and Angus young never really grabbed my ear like it did millions of fans . Finally after watching another reaction on the EPIPHONE SG Classic Worn Cherry with P 90s, i took the plunge. The reaction s lead me to believe that P 90s were just out of this world with bright snappy tones. Upon unboxing the SG. I was so amazed at the sonic tonality and control ability this guitar possess s. The point s you make are completely valid . Mine weighs a scant 6lbs 6 ounces, with minimal neck dive , not as much as my EPIPHONE Firebird. I say all of this to say both that SG and that Squire 70s CV Telecaster are and absolute delight to play either one , but id truly have to give the slightest edge to SG as the most versatile, cuz lets face it we buy a Tele cuz we want that Unique Telecaster sound. Looking forward to your next reaction.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts Billy! Sounds you’ve acquired some really fine instruments! Glad to hear one of those is your beloved epi worn cherry P90! I’ll bet that’s a fun guitar! I hear you about Iommi and Angus… not a huge fan myself. I do love the cream era Clapton SG stuff as well as the southern rock / jam band guys like Derek Trucks who are doing fantastic things with the SG. Thanks for subscribing!
@6stringbelief Derek Trucks is just a slide monster. I'm sure Duane Allman is smiling down on him everyday. And lest we forget the Newly designed Susan Tedeschi Telecaster model and her incredible talent. As for my SG. Your right it's delightful to play and 2bh the Worn finish has much more beauty to it visually than 1 might expect. I plan to acquire another SG in time, but which one??? But one thing I prefer and I've heard numerous other people disagree is , I LOVE THE FULL BAT WING PICK GUARD. I mean really, when do you ever see a bat with only 1 wing???
@@billydworrell8259 yeah man! The batwing guard is a love it or hate it thing for sure! I think it looks cool personally!
My 99 SG Special is a workhorse. Put in some SD Saturday Night Special Pickups and it goes from 70's rock to blistering punk/metal. Nothing it can't handle.. Great guitar.. Need no other..
Agreed! They do it all!
Over the years I had played many types of electric guitars. But really stayed with the Les Paul and Telecaster... I tried some SGs but they were just copy types and never felt quite right for me... I recently got the buzz for a gibson sg... and went the store to try a 61 standard and a full pickguard standard.. I liked the 61 but it felt too slim on the neck for me.. Then I tried the full pickguard and I was blown away by the wider neck feel and the full fat but articulate mid range tones coming out of the 490T 490R pickups... It sounded amazing and felt amazing.. I was getting tones that I had been looking for with my Les Paul but could never quite get.. The thinner body seems to pronounce the crunchy organic roar that this guitar produces whilst accommodating some amazing warm or bright clean tones through to silky leads... I walked away with a beautiful heritage red SG Standard... Its definitely a guitar that quickly becomes addictive to pickup and play..
That’s great when you stumble upon such an inspiring guitar! Glad you found it!
It's the second time I'm watching this vid and I just haven't let go of the SG. Haven't picked up my Les Paul or 335 or any Fenders it's been SG everyday. I guess you were right, wow, it just feels right.
I appreciate you watching, and for your thoughts and comment! I’m glad you’re connecting with your SG and that it is inspiring you! 🙌
This year, I got into SGs. First with a bare bones Special, which I love. Then I got the custom shop 61 LP SG Standard. For me, it’s the least expensive way to enter the Gibson Custom world, and I love it. Speaking of weight…
My special is 6 lbs 6 oz… neck dives.
The 61 (stopbar, no vibrola) weights 6 lbs 5 oz. No neck dive. I can jump and it will stay in place. Strange to me. But I love them both.
The Specials are such cool animals! Sounds like you found a couple good one. And you are right they are a great way to get into the Gibson custom world at a reasonable price.
I'm with you buddy. My Gold SG with P90s is my no. 1 live guitar. No need to switch guitars during a long set. It can do everything, fat Les Paul tones, spanky Tele tones with the volume rolled back & out of phase Straty tones in the middle position with a phase switch on a push/push tone pot. Keep up the good work brother. Gerry
Yeah, Gerry! Sounds like you got a winner there! Love the phase option too! So cool.
I've had mulitple Les Pauls, CS, 3 USA ones, a Heritage, a Tokai and right now I have an Eastman LP type that I adore. Last year went into a PRS rabbit hole, and for some reaosn never considered the SG. I think it was because was never sure how bad the neck dive was, but also never liked that when I checked on an SG they seem to always have thin neck.
But I started this year to have a bug for an SG, and I pulled the trigger for a 2021 Standard one. I only tried and SG years ago for less than a minute.
But wow...it is indeed its own thing. Very different feel to play than a LP. I can see why some people love it and others dont like it much, which is fine. I really liked it.
But what mostly suprised me is what you mentioned of the tele on steroid thing. the R8 did that and my current Eastman with a pickup swap does it also, and I really like it. But the SG makes it even more, lol. That was very interesting, cos I really never knew what the SG sound was.
Plays awesome, standing up is a joy to play, the upper fret access is so so nice, is very loud unplugged, and that bite in the tone, has that attack which is awesome.
I wont say its my favorite type of guitar (just go the SG this week, so still getting into it more and more) but I wouldn't be surprised if it takes that spot, or if it becomes a favorite just like LP's and PRS's.
So glad I went for it. I really thought I would like it a lot, but you never know hehe. And is fantastic.
Nice! Thanks for sharing this! Sounds like you e caught the SG bug as I have! They really are something special! Out of curiosity, what pickups did you put it your R8?
@@shadsguitarshow Custombuckers! Great pickups. Liked them very much.
@@onlyguitars oh yeah! Me too! Great pickups
I have a Vintage VS6, a SG replica and it's great to play. The Gibson is too expensive for me, but I would love to have one.
A nice SG style guitar like yours is awesome too!
I’m a longtime strat player and I’m shopping for a new guitar. Played an SG standard yesterday and liked it way more than Pauls and 339 that I played.
Nice! The SG is a nice compliment to the tones of the Strat too.
I just got an SG after having a Les Paul for years, and I can’t quite get a good feel for it. It has a different sound that I like, but I feel the Les Paul is way more comfortable to play. I will say the more I play it, the more I love it. It’s the new ‘61 reissue in tv yellow. Looks a lot like the one you are playing here.
Those new TV yellow ‘61’s are awesome!
SG (2004 special - ebony FB, 59 neck, 490T) is the only Gibson I use all the time, alongside a strat, tele and tele deluxe. I did put a HB-p90 in the neck though. When anyone asks for a great LP tone, I use the SG. (I do remote sessions a lot). I do have a couple of LPs.
I like the HB sized P90 idea in the neck! I’ll bet that opens up some really cool tone options!
@@shadsguitarshow Yes, it's pretty cool. They just have a hint more clarity than an HB in the neck, IME. The guitar is versatile as heck.
So back in the 70's, being influenced by Pete Towshend, I got a cherry SG, and loved it. It was a very high quality guitar and I loved the tones it could get. Since I also play bass and didn't have a guitar amp, it sounded different being played through a bass amp. They are fun to play.
Pete’s “Live at Leeds” tone is a benchmark!
@@shadsguitarshow He did a lot with that guitar, and I don't believe he was using effects, just those British High watt amps I believe. The guitar is a genius in design, with its pickups and 2 volume and 2 tone controls. Townshen had the top notch road crew, because I'm sure you saw the footage at Woodstock, where he threw it toward the audience and the crew recovered it so it could be played again and again.
@@bryanhenderson8807 those were certainly wild times!
@@shadsguitarshow Yes, they sure were.
Love that color !! I always see cherry red transparent or black SGs but that vintage white looks amazing. Too bad I can't afford a Murphy Lab, but good on you, mate ! 👍
Thanks man! I love the color! They make a standard USA version this color too!
Gonna have to agree. My first "good" electric was an ltd Viper, an SG copy. I could easily live with an SG as an only guitar.
Neck dive not a problem on mine either! I think the heavy metal Grover tuners make a difference. It's a nice looking guitar and access to upper frets is amazing. Only minor downside is the reach to the nut, it's a little bit of a stretch; if you're a bit taller I guess this would be less of a problem. Sounds great too, mine's got that characteristic bark to it.
Yeah it’s got that great chime and bark! Totally right
Love my Gibson SG Tribute, it does just about everything and doesn't wear me out. I love LP as well but I can not really get comfortable with it in a seated position for some reason.
I agree! I feel like the LP wants to slip off your leg backwards being kind of rear heavy.
Exactly, I thought it was just me, my SG gives no such trouble.@@shadsguitarshow
As of September 2024, the only Gibson model I’ve purchased is a 2009 Les Paul Goldtop that I got preowned 9 years after it was bought by the original owner. I was tempted to also get an SG Standard in 2019 when two of them were for sale at a Guitar Center here in NYC for $1,195 apiece before tax. I had plugged each of them in at least once, and I could sense the appeal in both of them, even with the combination of the top heaviness and the idea that a professional grade Gibson at that price was too good to be true. Postpandemic when I spoke to a GC employee, he told me I made the better choice and not getting one of those guitars. I think he said they weren’t worth it.
I still have had occasion to consider trading the Les Paul I mentioned above for an SG. Even though I have enjoyed picking up SGI models on the floor and playing them, I still think this Les Paul may be the only Gibson model I ever get (unless I find myself coming into a Hummingbird acoustic).
The gold top is definitely a cool choice and it sounds like you found a good one! Although I will say that the price on those SG models you talk about does seem really good so if one of them was really inspiring, it might’ve been cool to grab one of those as well.
Out of my collection the SG and the Tele are my faves.
Me too! Good call!
I have had a ‘98 SG since 2001. As a rock n roll machine it’s unparalleled: the neck is chunky, which may not work for everyone but it has stayed true all these years. The 490 humbuckers are powerful, thick and distinctive-nothing else sounds quite as good. I’ll fool around with other guitars but I always come back to the sg.
Thanks for sharing, Leo! I agree! The Sag just checks all the boxes!
Great video! The SG is a killer workhorse guitar, provided you get one with a balanced weight!
I must admit tho that I feel the Explorer is Gibson's best design. Definitely try one out if you haven't! They're unfortunately typecast as a metal guitar, but they do so much more.
Some hidden gems of the Explorer design:
-6 in-line headstock (seems to stay in tune better ime)
-simplified control layout in an easily-accessible straight line (never needed a second tone and the controls/jack layout on the SG and Firebird feel cramped in comparison)
-side mounted jack keeps the cable out of the way
-balanced weight
-surprisingly ergonomic retro-futuristic design
-solid upper fret access
-tonal sweet spot between SG and LP
...only downside is the massive case.. so I hope to own an SG someday for that reason ahaha
I totally agree on the Explorer! I’ve had a couple of the reissue ones and they really are awesome! So thanks…. Now I’m thinking about how I need an Explorer! Haha. Thanks for sharing your thoughts Jake! 🙌
I agree. { weak point the headstock,bust 3 )Tele custom and sg are my favourite guitars of all time. Played all models and makes ( bar specialist makers )
les paul great but the weight puts me off. For a gigging guitarist sg with hb or p90's hard to beat.
Love the colour of your Murphy Labs.
Thanks man and I absolutely agree! 👍🏼
I've loved the SG since 1961. I have 3: Standard, P90, and Special. I read somewhere that it's also the best selling model.
Nice guitars! Yea I believe Gibson has stated it is the best selling model!
Great video & playing!
Thanks Jack!!
Subscribed , I don’t have an SG yet , I have just about everything else but it’s on the horizon , this video may have convinced me
That’s great! Hope you find an awesome one! 🙌
I never used to like the SG. The body shape is what turned me off about the guitar for the longest time. It wasnt until a friend showed me his SG Standard. He got it as a high school graduation present, then it lived in its case collecting dust for 5 years. When he showed it to me it looked rough. The finish wasnt banged up or anything like that, but it just needed some love. i begged him to let me borrow it to get it all cleaned up, restrung, and provide a basic set up on it to get it purring again. He let me hold onto it for 2 weeks and within that 2 weeks i fell in love with that guitar. It feels amazing to play, but the thing that had me sold was its tone. It was easily my favorite humbucker guitar i have ever played and definitely changed my mind about the SG. It was a very sad day when i had to give it back to him especially knowing that it is back in its case not being played. 😢
Great story! Thanks for sharing! I agree about how sad it is when a beautiful old (or new) guitar is resigned to live in a case and not do what it was designed to do… make music!
I consider the SG the shredder's choice of the Gibson line. Its like the corvette. The Les Paul is the big cadillac with the fins.
I agree! That’s a great point! 🙌
My favorite Gibson is my 1996 Howard Roberts Fusion iii. It’s absolutely awesome
I’ve been curious about those for a long time, and would love to get my hands on one at some point!
When I think of Gibson I think of Juniors. They are my favorite Gibsons!!
The junior is a beast for sure! 👍
So many good tips here in the comments. Mine Gibson SG Standard doesn't have neck dive, I'm lucky in this subject
I think it’s less common than many think but just more common on SG’s than other guitars.
Great video. I've just got my SG standard 61' today. I totally agree with you. Amazing tones in a much more playable package. Coming from LP, SG is way more comfortable, light and enjoyable.
Totally agree! Congrats on your new guitar! 🎸 🙌
SG is my favorite guitar as well! The neck dive problem can be solved with a tailpiece like the Derek Trucks SG model, which comes with a faux Lyre tailpiece. It helps to distribute the weight better and does not affect the playability because it's only aesthetic. Eric Clapton's 'The Fool' guitar has also a tailpiece
Good points! 🙌
I have a white 61 SG and it's hot AF and my favorite guitar.
They do rock! 🤘🏼
My ‘66 ES-335 with the Alvin Lee mod is the only guitar I’ve needed my whole professional career covering 45 years.
That’s awesome! That’s a guitar that could do it all.
I think a lot of it comes down to knowing what makes each of “the three” great, knowing why you reach for it and knowing which specs to look for.
The SG has an iconic natural midrange that to me always sounds better with lower output PAFs. But over the years Gibson started using hotter and hotter pickups eventually throwing that balance way off.
My perfect SG ended up being a CS ‘61/‘59 “Fat neck”. A basic VOS ‘61 with an R8/R9 neck profile.
I totally agree, each one has its place, but as I mentioned in the video on strictly speaking, for which one I would grab, if I wanted to cover the most ground! There are definitely things a 335 will do that neither an SG or LP will do. I definitely prefer a little bit beefier neck as well. I agree on the pick up output as well.
I prefer the sg because being lighter and thinner,I can feel the vibrations much better,which feels good,and therefore inspires me.
Never thought of the vibration aspect but that’s a great point! Thanks for sharing!
1964 Gibson SG Special.
Heavily modded before it dropped into my hands. Routed out for a full size Humbucker at the bridge. The P-90 simply did not fit the sound of the Humbuckers tone and volume
So I didn’t want to do any further routing so I dug out and old Epiphone mini humbucker and using an old P-90 cover I made a mount. It sounds amazing. The Mahogany was a perfect match for the both of them and using them in parallel clean with a touch of chorus is a sound to love.
Especially using it in church. And for Heavy Metal.
Church and heavy metal! You’re a man after my own heart, David! Love your custom mod with the mini HB and P90 cover! How cool!! 🙌
I owned SG and now own Epiphone Coronet which is very similar in terms of ergonomics and general feel of the guitar. I tried a lot of different strap options, I added weight to bottm end of the guitar - it helped a little, but not enough. For me personally Les Paul capable of doing anything that SG can. And also it is just more comfortable to play because of better weight disrtibution and better stability on the strap. So now I'm selling my Coronet to buy Les Paul and continue play rock'n'roll with maximum joy
As long as you find an inspiring guitar that’s all that matters!
I agree on the SG. Best guitar Gibson ever created. No guitar is perfect, but the SG is great. I love how they play, sound, and look. Nothing looks cooler than an SG. I also think you are right about the high end. It's just sweeter and pops out more than on a Les Paul. I'm also not a big fan of maple caps, and the maple cap only adds to the weight of a Les Paul. I can't stand heavy guitars. The SG is a classic for a number of reasons, and you've named them all. Keep rocking.
Couldn’t agree more! Thanks for sharing your thoughts! 🙌🏼
Great video and I agree with everything you’ve said. I love my Sg it’s a different flavor compared to my Les Paul’s.
That's some pretty tasty playing 😊. The SG has a very
Distinctive kind of playability.
Zappa, Clapton and others fell
Under it's spell. Rock on.
Thanks! Totally agree about the playability!
Tried about a dozen Les Pauls at the Sam Ash on W. 48th in NYC. Didn't like the necks and the upper fret access, so I then tried roughly half a dozen SG Standards (block inlays, vibrola, etc.) and found one I could bond with. This was in 1971. It was a great "learning" guitar and also great live. Unfortunately, my amp was a '70 Twin with JBLs and, while it could hold its own with a Marshall stack, it was impossible to get "my" tone at anything less than face-melting volumes. I would have been better off with a Vibrolux or Bandmaster or Bassman.
Wow! A 70’s twin would be loud and clean!! Especially with JBL’s! Haha. But a Bassman is a great choice. Vibrolux too!
@@shadsguitarshow Can't go back. These days I'm playing through a Blackstar HT5-R. Not the same, but at least the neighbors aren't calling the cops.
My sg is currently a les paul... I perfer sg's but sold mine to keep my les paul. I agree the sg is a superior guitar than the other gibsons, but the les paul has me on one thing, looks. I'm definitely looking to add an sg back into my collection. Infact that's the very next guitar purchase for me
Les Paul’s do also look pretty cool! 😎
I have more guitars than I can properly maintain. But my absolute favorite is a 1997 SG special. Got a standard too. I love all of them, but the '97 special just rips! My brother said, "That's the angriest sounding guitar I've ever heard!" That was just a low-mid gain tone, not heavily distorted. Has so many options just clean. Love that one!
Thanks for sharing! Sounds like you have a couple good ones!!
My real problem with the SG...I just can't stop playing it. Great shape and feel. Killer pickups. It's the rock and roll machine.
That’s a good problem to have!! 🙌🏼
I am the original owner of a 74 SG Special with the mini humbuckers. The guitar is fifty years old and it gets that Tele sound really well because the minis have lower output.
Mini humbuckers are awesome! Great tone!
Greatest-sounding and looking electric guitar ever made! I bought my first Standard back in 1991, and never looked back. Of course, I've owned many other brands and models of guitar over the decades. But the SG is my main axe.
Yeah, it certainly is fast becoming my absolute favorite of all my Guitars! Thanks for sharing!
Got Strats, Teles and an LP. I had a very nice Tokai SG which looked and sounded amazing but was a "neck diver", which I found irritating. It never sat right in my hands and I ended up flogging it years later for way more than I paid for it. That said, SGs are very nice-looking and sounding guitars if you can get the right one and can get on with it. Definitely a guitar I'd want to try out before buying.
I feel that way about most Gibson models. I would really want to try one before I bought it.
@@shadsguitarshow, for sure. Gibsons are incredible guitars but understandably very pricey. Many years ago, I played an extremely heavy black Gibson LP at Bonners Music Store in Eastbourne, UK. It was utterly to die for but the weight put me off a little and it was £2K, which back in the day was a lot for a working family man to find. Apparently, the late Gary Moore, who was living just down the coast in Brighton at the time had been in a couple of days before and also played the same guitar. I ended up passing but still wanted an LP so a year later, I picked up a new Epi LP Plus Top Pro, which is a little lighter and has been a truly amazing guitar for the money, satisfying my need for the LP sound in my home studio. I have an American Strat which cost me a fair amount, a Mexican Tele and a surprisingly well set-up Black Squier Affinity Strat for hauling around to jams etc. I play a lot of acoustic too so my small collection of electrics more than satisfies my needs and fully fills the time I have off from running my business to play. I must say, you really got some great sounds out of the SG in this video; great playing and I enjoyed listening.
Unplayable for me due to neck dive. I know it works for some but I hate it. It's a shame because I really love the sound😊
Just have to find the right one!
How does yours NOT have the neck dive? I play one and with the proper strap, they hold up fine
Mine literally hangs perfectly!
I use a shotgun approach- sg, tele, jem jr, Strat, PRs, Schecter sun valley ptfr, rg’s.
I like that approach! 🙌
I agree, the SG just has the sweetest sound. LP too fat on the bottom, ES-335 too pricey