As a keyboardist, I also double as an additional guitar resource in live settings. This sounds so good and takes so little room that it makes setting up and breaking down so much easier. Thanks for sharing.
Agreed. With this setup you only get one effect at a time, plus maybe some reverb. With an HX stomp you get a lot more flexibility with effects and saveable presets, and it's all in one pedal.
@@LA.Guitar Hi Lee your rig sounds great. Do you have any thoughts why it didn’t cut live? The HX One and Stomp are the same tech and should work exactly the same. Thanks!
@@nopinionocomnt it’s all personal taste and real world experiences. Mine is I couldn’t get the stomp to cut, but I can with the IR2. You can probably get the stomp to work well to your ears and that’s cool
My take is the IR2 with the stomp . The IR2 is based on Boss amps not models and have a natural analog feel under the fingers and natural feedback just like a real tube amp. I'm a Helix owner and love it so don't think I'm a hater lol...but on a stomp it's hard to get the feel under your fingers with only 8 blocks unless using a real amp n cab. Just my experience I know HX well and in order to create a decent sounding patch that also feels good 12 blocks be my minimum lol
Yeah, I have an HX Stomp, and it got pretty much everything one could want. But, the video shows that you really don't need to have a lot to get awesome results. I think with Modelers, sometimes it's too easy to make things unnecessarily complicated.
I purchased the MS50G when Lee first raved about it. Maybe he will see this an give us his opinion about using it with the Boss IR2 like he has done here. 🤷♂️🤘
This is a great combo. Perfect. I'm going to use the IR2 with a zoom and maybe a Micro pitch in the loop since I will live in the hi gain amps . Mostly the brown sound which I also love on the Katana amp. Great channel. You guys rock! Thanks so much ! ❤ Really love these videos. ❤ Regards from South Central Indiana. USA. Tim ❤
I remember the days of the dreaded loading in/out... Lugging cabs and a rack unit about... Fighting to fit your stuff on a tiny stage... It's simple, easy, sounds great and the best thing is being able to have a few beers because you can simply get an uber home and bring everything with you. No more packing down then jamming everything into the car boot for the drive home...
This isn’t too far off my “no thrills” setup of HX stomp and Tonex in the loop 👍 Line 6 effects are always overlooked but worth checking out - the newer dynamic reverbs give most other pedals a run for their money 😊
It took me far too long to realise that the guitar was going into the HX ONE first, and that the 'pre-amp' section of the IR-2 was in its loop, rather than the HX ONE sitting in the loop of the IR-2. It would have been helpful for the hard-of-thinking viewers like myself if this was explicit from the start.
Love it. I'd probably still want to throw another pedal or two in the mix, or maybe one of the smaller multi effects units instead of the hx one, just for a little more fun. But I think most guitarists should limit their rigs like this and just focus on playing :D
I think this quite genius....for the power n flexibility id use stomp in same way. Im usually with Paul on these effects units that feel under my finger is almost as important as my tone. The Boss stuff responds great . Something lacking from even the QC . 💯👍🏻
I’d take this over the hx stomp. I’ve owned the stomp and honestly some of us will never use all of what the stomp has to offer. The boss ir and 2 in 1 drive pedal is all you need.
How can you hook it up to use a drive from hx one to front of the amp, and then similarly have the delay effects in the loop when you choose to use the delay?
I don’t have either of these but I believe the HX lets you position whether the effects loop (IR-2) comes before or after the effect for each patch on the HX One.
I was sure there was a later version of this where the IR2 was replaced with a Tonex One doing a couple of amps. Then connected to the Helix One as in this video. But I can't find it - duh?? Am I cracking up?
So in this setup as shown here, is it possible to run the HX One's stereo effects, direct it to the FX loop and from there to the DI box --> mixer? Or is it all in mono?
Interesting minimalist set-up. I always think I want/ need more, but in practice not much extra gets used. So, where can we find Lee’s eBay &/ or Reverb shop? Presumably there’s now a few bits of kit going spare …
The older I get the more I see the appeal of simplicity. Most of the guitarists I really love have one core tone, so what's the point of having gear that dilutes that?
An original idea, nice. So you plug directly to a console. What would you do for on stage sound? Would you connect to a guitar amp or you just have monitors?
Very nice setup... I just got the Boss GX100, partly due to your vids (i love it and I obtained your patches 😁) has the Boss amps seen here and offers more FX than the HX one as well. But I do like line 6 fx as well... options options
I had a gx100, but moved to Hx Stomp as I could not get a satisfying dirty sound. The IR2 here sounds very good, though! I would love a comparison of ir2/gx100 using the same amp and ownhammer ir. In the gx100 I always had the inpression that ir were somewhat muffled.
@@myTubesTubetook me some time, but by using the fender style amps (dual) to get a clean tone, i then layered multiple overdrives (centaur, TS, BD) and use manual switching for activating solo/ bright switches and amp gain all on one button. Got me where i wanted. As usual all personal taste though. I do love line 6 though and had a pod go first but needed more flexibility. Helix is too big, but would still consider a stomp xl in the future
Lee's minimalist fly rig packs a huge punch and gets the job done in a BIG way, does the R2 need a direct box? I thought you can go direct to a DAW, PA or a mixer, right?
These two pedals aren't cheap - current prices are £179 for the IR2 and between £210-297 for the Helix. So the total at something like £400 plays in the Boss GX10 and GX100 which probably do more.
I would agree if you were starting from scratch, but if you already have an amp that you've been using, but just need something for the small gigs, this is great.
@ Yes - not saying I wouldn’t go this route - if fact I’ve been considering seriously despite already having a Helix XL. It’s the simplicity and reliability that the attraction. The Helix is so much work from scratch to get to gigging it. The IR2 and and something like the Helix One is Uber easy in comparison
Even this "simple" stuff is way too techy for me. I just want 4 or 5 sounds controlled by pushing a button. One for funk one for soul one for a bit of crunch, one light heavy, one a bit heavier no metal shite and the ability to add wah, phaser, delay, chorus and reverb via one knob. What's my best option guitar gurus?
Would have loved to hear your Fender clean tone if you use one… maybe you don’t … And first time I thought the HX One might be useful… except I would prefer a mini HX EFFECTS where you could use 3 or 4 FX at a time. Comp, delay, reverb and trem would be perfect
@@LA.Guitar I thought I'd seen these two doing exactly that - a Tonex One into a Helix One - but can't find the vid now. I'm sure I;ve seen it even if it's not Studio Rats.
I think the IR2 sounds good for the money but I can’t see a reason to buy it unless you already have a pedalboard. To build a board from scratch this setup is extremely limited for nearly £450 quid. I just can’t see why anyone would do it. 🤷🏻♂️
The Ultimate Mobile Guitar Rig? Well... I just bought the Kemper Profiler Player some days ago. I don't think that the whole board showed in this video is much more expensive that the Kemper Player... and in my Opinion the sound of Kemper is still closer to a real Amp. And you are so much more flexible! You got 2 FX pre and 2FX post. You have a Tuner and Stereo Output and additional Mono Output where you can route one Output with cab (IR) and the other without. And it is smaller and lighter and just one Unit...
@@LA.Guitar Ok but what about GX100 and GX10 then - ditto - these two pedals are about £176 and £200+ so near to £400 = same price as the GX100 and more than the GX10. I think a Tonex One into a Helix One is also an interesting option.
Clean tones do tend to be a very personal thing. I like them almost driven as pure clean tones get lost in a live mix too easily. My thoughts on the QC are in a forthcoming video…..
hm. i dont get the one. i think its a bad product. too expensive. why would you buy this when you can get a used hx stomp for the same price? you can get the same simplicity and immideacy with 3 sounds.... no, please dont say, but a strymon is more expensive.... i´m of the opinion that any digital dsp based pedal above 200 is robbery. please remeber tc electronics line before behringer castrated them. then we were around 100... please wake up everybody and stop overpaying lazy companies.
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I love stuff like this. Small and simple and sounds great!
"I left several of my capes at home" 😄 Great video, as always. Plenty to think about. Great sounds!
Glad you enjoyed!
Cool video! Creative setup👍 🤘
As a keyboardist, I also double as an additional guitar resource in live settings. This sounds so good and takes so little room that it makes setting up and breaking down so much easier. Thanks for sharing.
Lee is the man!!!! Now show us the capes!
Great rig, but I would definitely go for a HX Stomp for a little more money. Thanks for sharing Lee and Paul.
Agreed. With this setup you only get one effect at a time, plus maybe some reverb. With an HX stomp you get a lot more flexibility with effects and saveable presets, and it's all in one pedal.
I’ve had a stomp in the past. Sounds great at home but couldn’t get it to cut in a live setting
@@LA.Guitar Hi Lee your rig sounds great. Do you have any thoughts why it didn’t cut live? The HX One and Stomp are the same tech and should work exactly the same. Thanks!
@@limpeacock573it’s the Boss pedal that’s doing the amp sim mate
@@illgottengains1314 Thanks and I get that. I would replace the HX One since it only does 1 preset with a HX Stomp for more flexibility.
Still watching but seems to me, an HX Stomp on it's own would cost about the same and have way more options.
I’ve had a stomp in the past. Sounds great at home but couldn’t get it to cut in a live setting
Exactly what I came in to comment on.
@@nopinionocomnt it’s all personal taste and real world experiences. Mine is I couldn’t get the stomp to cut, but I can with the IR2. You can probably get the stomp to work well to your ears and that’s cool
My take is the IR2 with the stomp . The IR2 is based on Boss amps not models and have a natural analog feel under the fingers and natural feedback just like a real tube amp. I'm a Helix owner and love it so don't think I'm a hater lol...but on a stomp it's hard to get the feel under your fingers with only 8 blocks unless using a real amp n cab. Just my experience I know HX well and in order to create a decent sounding patch that also feels good 12 blocks be my minimum lol
Yeah, I have an HX Stomp, and it got pretty much everything one could want. But, the video shows that you really don't need to have a lot to get awesome results.
I think with Modelers, sometimes it's too easy to make things unnecessarily complicated.
Great Video. I think the Boss together with a Line6 M9 or Zoom Ms 50/70 could be an amazing rig too.
I purchased the MS50G when Lee first raved about it. Maybe he will see this an give us his opinion about using it with the Boss IR2 like he has done here. 🤷♂️🤘
Amazing gear guys , from Brazil!
Glad you like it!
I was just messing with the IR and a stomp last night. Great stuff.
I can’t wait to see your take on this
Great Set-up and video. 🍻
Glad you enjoyed it
This is a great combo. Perfect. I'm going to use the IR2 with a zoom and maybe a Micro pitch in the loop since I will live in the hi gain amps . Mostly the brown sound which I also love on the Katana amp. Great channel. You guys rock! Thanks so much ! ❤
Really love these videos. ❤
Regards from South Central Indiana. USA.
Tim ❤
Cheers Tim!
This was great and that effects unit is not costly !
Fantastic video! Almost has me questioning why I continue with a Helix Floor... almost :D
Does sound pretty dam good! 👍🏾
I remember the days of the dreaded loading in/out... Lugging cabs and a rack unit about... Fighting to fit your stuff on a tiny stage... It's simple, easy, sounds great and the best thing is being able to have a few beers because you can simply get an uber home and bring everything with you. No more packing down then jamming everything into the car boot for the drive home...
Excellent!
I’m using a similar rig: the IR-200 (thanks to Paul) and Boss MS-3. 4CM. Love the flexibility and small size.
Good choice!
Great stuff
Cool! I'm off to check out Cosmograf.
Now that's an excellent idea. Space saving has to be a real issue for any touring band.
The HX1 is nice. The Zoom MS70 is cheaper and allows several effects at once. Sounds good too.
Sounds great, is that impuls respons available?
Leeeeeeeeeee! Greetings. Nice video guys.
Excellent, shame there’s no link to the IR used by Lee, is it the 412 mesaboogie trad as part of the Evolution debut bundle
I’d also love to know this!
Check out this link to Ownhammer (r)Evolution Debut Bundle, Media section last example for 412 Trad V30-MB1
An old Sansamp TRI AC would do all that and you wouldn’t need the DI box. My B-rig is a Blackstar Amped 3 with a couple of pedals and it sounds great.
This was great.
Just ordered an IR2 to replace my Iridium. Let's hope it's worth it!
Would you share your impressions after 7 months? I'm considering IR-2 vs Iridium too
I’ll hold your beer while you make a new video about this with the new Pod Express and HX One
This isn’t too far off my “no thrills” setup of HX stomp and Tonex in the loop 👍
Line 6 effects are always overlooked but worth checking out - the newer dynamic reverbs give most other pedals a run for their money 😊
It took me far too long to realise that the guitar was going into the HX ONE first, and that the 'pre-amp' section of the IR-2 was in its loop, rather than the HX ONE sitting in the loop of the IR-2.
It would have been helpful for the hard-of-thinking viewers like myself if this was explicit from the start.
Is there a way to just buy Lee's OH recommended IR from the site? It's all a bit confusing with the packs they sell?
It appears to be in their (r)Evolution Debut Bundle, haven't looked to see if they offer it as a stand-alone.
Brilliant!
Love it.
I'd probably still want to throw another pedal or two in the mix, or maybe one of the smaller multi effects units instead of the hx one, just for a little more fun.
But I think most guitarists should limit their rigs like this and just focus on playing :D
Hello ... When you move through the amplifiers and come back, the settings have changed... I wonder why? thank you
I think this quite genius....for the power n flexibility id use stomp in same way. Im usually with Paul on these effects units that feel under my finger is almost as important as my tone. The Boss stuff responds great . Something lacking from even the QC . 💯👍🏻
I’d take this over the hx stomp. I’ve owned the stomp and honestly some of us will never use all of what the stomp has to offer. The boss ir and 2 in 1 drive pedal is all you need.
How can you hook it up to use a drive from hx one to front of the amp, and then similarly have the delay effects in the loop when you choose to use the delay?
I don’t have either of these but I believe the HX lets you position whether the effects loop (IR-2) comes before or after the effect for each patch on the HX One.
I was sure there was a later version of this where the IR2 was replaced with a Tonex One doing a couple of amps. Then connected to the Helix One as in this video. But I can't find it - duh?? Am I cracking up?
I'm confused on Ir-2 vs Ir-200. The 2 has more amps than 200, but aren't they essentially the same?
Lee is a clever cat. Paul was genuinely impressed. I was expecting a bit of snark, but not here.
Lee is awesome
Lee, I am in a psychedelic band, can the hx one do drop acid?
So in this setup as shown here, is it possible to run the HX One's stereo effects, direct it to the FX loop and from there to the DI box --> mixer? Or is it all in mono?
wow....the overdrive sound is killer...could you send me the link to the right ownhammer package ?...thanx
here's a thought, for your solo/delay and output boost, could you insert the compressor infront of the boss to boost gain at same time.
Interesting minimalist set-up. I always think I want/ need more, but in practice not much extra gets used.
So, where can we find Lee’s eBay &/ or Reverb shop? Presumably there’s now a few bits of kit going spare …
There must be,
What patch and setting are you using for the "acoustic" tones?
The older I get the more I see the appeal of simplicity. Most of the guitarists I really love have one core tone, so what's the point of having gear that dilutes that?
Fantastic I’m thinking bout this as a replacement rig. Great tones. What’s that bridge pickup. What other guitars does Lee use apart from tele.
My main one is a Suhr classic pro
An original idea, nice. So you plug directly to a console. What would you do for on stage sound? Would you connect to a guitar amp or you just have monitors?
Lee uses in ear monitoring
Very nice setup... I just got the Boss GX100, partly due to your vids (i love it and I obtained your patches 😁) has the Boss amps seen here and offers more FX than the HX one as well. But I do like line 6 fx as well... options options
I had a gx100, but moved to Hx Stomp as I could not get a satisfying dirty sound. The IR2 here sounds very good, though! I would love a comparison of ir2/gx100 using the same amp and ownhammer ir. In the gx100 I always had the inpression that ir were somewhat muffled.
@@myTubesTubetook me some time, but by using the fender style amps (dual) to get a clean tone, i then layered multiple overdrives (centaur, TS, BD) and use manual switching for activating solo/ bright switches and amp gain all on one button. Got me where i wanted. As usual all personal taste though. I do love line 6 though and had a pod go first but needed more flexibility. Helix is too big, but would still consider a stomp xl in the future
8:17 any chance of getting those delay settings :-)
That's awesome. How do you switch between running the HX Stomp before or after the IR-2?
You can choose that behavior per preset. So Lee here likely had the acoustic sim and compressor presets before the Boss pedal and the delay after.
Have you tried the valeton gp200lt Lee,it can do the four cable method, put your own ir,s in and sounds great all for £200.
Yep. I owned one last year. The drop tuning pitch shifting is awful sadly
Lee's minimalist fly rig packs a huge punch and gets the job done in a BIG way, does the R2 need a direct box? I thought you can go direct to a DAW, PA or a mixer, right?
The IR2 outputs are unbalanced so I prefer to use a DI box
You can, but a di box is useful over longer cable runs.
Can you put this pedal in front of a clean fender amp.With the Cab simulators off!
Yes
These two pedals aren't cheap - current prices are £179 for the IR2 and between £210-297 for the Helix. So the total at something like £400 plays in the Boss GX10 and GX100 which probably do more.
I would agree if you were starting from scratch, but if you already have an amp that you've been using, but just need something for the small gigs, this is great.
@ Yes - not saying I wouldn’t go this route - if fact I’ve been considering seriously despite already having a Helix XL. It’s the simplicity and reliability that the attraction. The Helix is so much work from scratch to get to gigging it. The IR2 and and something like the Helix One is Uber easy in comparison
How about the IR-2 and Zoom MS50G that y’all did a while back? Both can run on battery.
That would be a great combo, but zoom can’t do 4 cable method
@@LA.Guitar that is true!
I think, the best mini board is IR2 + zoom ms 50 or 70, you can use it only on battery, and this is cheapest way, on zoom you have multipedal preset
But no 4 cable method. 2 zooms would work tho?
@@LA.Guitar why not
Use IrX or IRD to keep the amps tube
Even this "simple" stuff is way too techy for me. I just want 4 or 5 sounds controlled by pushing a button. One for funk one for soul one for a bit of crunch, one light heavy, one a bit heavier no metal shite and the ability to add wah, phaser, delay, chorus and reverb via one knob. What's my best option guitar gurus?
Imho, a Princeton with 1x12 and a small pedal board is better in terms of tone and adjustability when playing living.
I wish I could use HX Edit on my smartphone.
Would have loved to hear your Fender clean tone if you use one… maybe you don’t …
And first time I thought the HX One might be useful… except I would prefer a mini HX EFFECTS where you could use 3 or 4 FX at a time.
Comp, delay, reverb and trem would be perfect
Wouldn't it be nice if the IR-2 was actually shipping to those who have paid for them?
I know you're making content...but other than that, what advantage does this have over an HX Stomp? Assuming we call the amp modelling a wash...
Cheaper, easier to power from regular 9v, I prefer the amp tones from the boss against the HX line…..
You should show us a plain clean sound with rev,delay,chorus..
You should.
For that price, why not just get a Friedman IR-X? Was hoping this combination would be cheaper..
IRX is well over double the price of the IR2
@@LA.Guitar Yeah but you dont need the HX One either. Why not just use the IR-X by itself?
@@stefanoberli5920 the Friedman doesn’t do effects…….. I need delay, acoustic sim, drop tuning etc….. did you watch the video?
@@LA.Guitarok different use case. was hoping for a cheaper alternative, but guess this isnt it.
Leeeeegend
Anyone else use a Strymon Iridium here?
Everyone playing worship music seems to have one…
Not enough gain in the iridium for me
Tonex pedal and Helix HX effects would be another option.
It would indeed!
@@LA.Guitar I thought I'd seen these two doing exactly that - a Tonex One into a Helix One - but can't find the vid now. I'm sure I;ve seen it even if it's not Studio Rats.
Cool…but I just load the IRs to my HX Stomp. One less piece of gear to worry about…
This is the Devil’s work. You’re going down the path of total digital and God didn’t intend that to happen. It’s sounds great btw.
Well.. it's not the IR2... in my country, they only exist on the internet....
There are quite a few small modelers that will do far more than this for far less money.
I think the IR2 sounds good for the money but I can’t see a reason to buy it unless you already have a pedalboard. To build a board from scratch this setup is extremely limited for nearly £450 quid. I just can’t see why anyone would do it. 🤷🏻♂️
price wise, and real estate wise this is not far from hx stomp.
The Ultimate Mobile Guitar Rig? Well... I just bought the Kemper Profiler Player some days ago. I don't think that the whole board showed in this video is much more expensive that the Kemper Player... and in my Opinion the sound of Kemper is still closer to a real Amp. And you are so much more flexible! You got 2 FX pre and 2FX post. You have a Tuner and Stereo Output and additional Mono Output where you can route one Output with cab (IR) and the other without. And it is smaller and lighter and just one Unit...
Mooer Prime S1. $179 on Amazon.
You're welcome.
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Yeh that might be my next investigation!
Seems that a GT1000 core would do much more and much better
Yes indeed. But they are £5-600 in the uk now. Hefty price tag. I personally found them fiddly to programme too
@@LA.Guitar Ok but what about GX100 and GX10 then - ditto - these two pedals are about £176 and £200+ so near to £400 = same price as the GX100 and more than the GX10. I think a Tonex One into a Helix One is also an interesting option.
HX Stomp all the way…
It’s an option certainly but I find the IR2 cuts better live
your old pedalboard and a friedman ir x sounds a lot better
I liked everything but the clean tones. Since you like tweaking and compact rigs, why not just buy a quad cortex? And the search is over
Clean tones do tend to be a very personal thing. I like them almost driven as pure clean tones get lost in a live mix too easily. My thoughts on the QC are in a forthcoming video…..
@@LA.Guitaragreed. I like them with a bit of hair as well. But I feel that you had way better clean tones with the Friedman IR-X
hm. i dont get the one. i think its a bad product. too expensive. why would you buy this when you can get a used hx stomp for the same price? you can get the same simplicity and immideacy with 3 sounds.... no, please dont say, but a strymon is more expensive.... i´m of the opinion that any digital dsp based pedal above 200 is robbery. please remeber tc electronics line before behringer castrated them. then we were around 100... please wake up everybody and stop overpaying lazy companies.
The ultimate small rig is a HX Stomp with a Morningstar Mc6 Mk2 and a Hotone Ampero 2 press. That's it.
Bull shit ! You have to buy full range amp and speaker