Turns out a number of Korean kung-fu teachers in the US claim lineage to Lu Shui-Tian. I studied with Park in the late 90's/early 2000's, but in the early 80's, I studied with Maing-Yul Jung in Houston, who also claims to be of Lu Shui-Tian lineage. (I didn't study bagua with Master Jung, only the hybrid long first/mantis system that he taught kids, but a number of his adult students learned his bagua.)
노파팔괘장 노선생님의 무술을 보고있자면 전세계 모든 지식을 담고있는 영국 브리티니 백과사전을 보는듯한 느낌도 들고, 보통의 무술영상은 아무리 멋있도 한번 보면 다시 볼때 또 다른 감흥이 느껴지지 않는데, 이 분의 영상은 1년마다 볼때마다 새로운 것을 느낄 수 있으니 이것이 인스턴트 햄버거와 뚝배기 된장찌개의 차이가 아닐까 하는 생각도 드네요. 비단 한국뿐만 아니라, 전세계의 수많은 고수들 중에서도 단연 으뜸의 최고수 반열 그룹에 계신 분이 아닌가 생각됩니다. 씹을수록 맛이 느껴지는 산속 뿌리식물이나 야생열매처럼, 무릇 무술도 하면 할수록 깊은 맛이 나야 계속 수련하는 의미가 있는데, 그런 보람을 찾을 수 있는 희망을 느끼게 해주는 무술이 노파팔괘장 노세준 선생님이 가시는 길이 아닐까 하는 생각이 이 새벽 아침에 영상을 보며 떠오른다
All Pa Kua is for combat. All martial arts outside of China since before the communist takeover are about combat. Only Wushu is a demonstration sport. Before accepting a teacher you must know why you want to study with him, and then ask him if he will teach you. I ask every student why they want to study with me before accepting them or not. Any genuine Kung fu is hard work and will take several years before you have any real skills. There are no guarantees you will develop them in any event. Patience is a virtue. Good luck. Laoshr #60 CYKFA
These pictures speak a thousand words. The demos are very clear - the teacher definitely knows how to teach the art. What lineage of Baguazhang did Lu Shui Tian come from before he fled to Korea?
I think thats a mystery. But undoutedly it can be traced back to Tung Hai Chuan. Or one of his two great students. Check out Shanghai Gutter Fighting Method for some clues. Notice how this teacher uses spearhand? The two top students differed in the focus of their applications. I forget their names at the moment. But one focused more on Shuai Jiao. And the other on striking and evasive footwork. Move in and throw. Or avoid and strike. Good luck.
The only two people who know , ain't talkin much. Dae Woung Young (yes Dae Woung was his student ), and Bok Nam Park. Dae Woung's style has a lot of Mantis, I think. ?. After 7 years of practice is all I could piece together. I know We have a 12 twelve step Tan tui which Muslim in origin, and Bagua Circle walking, and Hakka routines. Dae Woung's style is very traditional and rigidly difficult.
Thanks for sharing. However, while I'm grateful for what you're shared, the editing on this video was poorly done. Perhaps it would have been better to leave a single explanation of the applications in place rather than chopping the seminar into pieces. Laoshr #60 Ching Yi Kung Fu Association
Bagua was spread to Korea before the Korean War. It was first introduced over 80 years ago.After the Korean War, it began to spread to Koreans only in South Korea and developed into a unique way of pragmatism. I also live in Korea.
I had no idea that anyone other than Park Bok Nam taught this. Excellent Ba Gua. Real power generation.
Bok Nam Park was taught by a Chinese man who had fled to Korea during WWII. That guy probably had a lot of other Korean students besides Park.
Turns out a number of Korean kung-fu teachers in the US claim lineage to Lu Shui-Tian. I studied with Park in the late 90's/early 2000's, but in the early 80's, I studied with Maing-Yul Jung in Houston, who also claims to be of Lu Shui-Tian lineage. (I didn't study bagua with Master Jung, only the hybrid long first/mantis system that he taught kids, but a number of his adult students learned his bagua.)
노파팔괘장 노선생님의 무술을 보고있자면 전세계 모든 지식을 담고있는 영국 브리티니 백과사전을 보는듯한 느낌도 들고, 보통의 무술영상은 아무리 멋있도 한번 보면 다시 볼때 또 다른 감흥이 느껴지지 않는데, 이 분의 영상은 1년마다 볼때마다 새로운 것을 느낄 수 있으니 이것이 인스턴트 햄버거와 뚝배기 된장찌개의 차이가 아닐까 하는 생각도 드네요.
비단 한국뿐만 아니라, 전세계의 수많은 고수들 중에서도 단연 으뜸의 최고수 반열 그룹에 계신 분이 아닌가 생각됩니다.
씹을수록 맛이 느껴지는 산속 뿌리식물이나 야생열매처럼, 무릇 무술도 하면 할수록 깊은 맛이 나야 계속 수련하는 의미가 있는데, 그런 보람을 찾을 수 있는 희망을 느끼게 해주는 무술이 노파팔괘장 노세준 선생님이 가시는 길이 아닐까 하는 생각이 이 새벽 아침에 영상을 보며 떠오른다
I agree!
Would be great to learn and train from this Teacher ! This style of Bagua Zhang is strictly for combat.
All Pa Kua is for combat. All martial arts outside of China since before the communist takeover are about combat. Only Wushu is a demonstration sport. Before accepting a teacher you must know why you want to study with him, and then ask him if he will teach you.
I ask every student why they want to study with me before accepting them or not. Any genuine Kung fu is hard work and will take several years before you have any real skills. There are no guarantees you will develop them in any event. Patience is a virtue.
Good luck.
Laoshr #60
CYKFA
@@stefanschleps8758 Not all BauGaoZhang/PaKuaChang is for Combat . Some is just water downed Kung Fu Foolery .
I see a lot of power in Ba Gua
I see three barefoot guys against a guy with rubber soles.
fantastic,please more videos.thanks
please more videos tutorials with subtitles english.thanks...fantastic system.
These pictures speak a thousand words. The demos are very clear - the teacher definitely knows how to teach the art. What lineage of Baguazhang did Lu Shui Tian come from before he fled to Korea?
I think thats a mystery. But undoutedly it can be traced back to Tung Hai Chuan. Or one of his two great students. Check out Shanghai Gutter Fighting Method for some clues. Notice how this teacher uses spearhand? The two top students differed in the focus of their applications. I forget their names at the moment. But one focused more on Shuai Jiao. And the other on striking and evasive footwork. Move in and throw. Or avoid and strike. Good luck.
The only two people who know , ain't talkin much. Dae Woung Young (yes Dae Woung was his student ), and Bok Nam Park. Dae Woung's style has a lot of Mantis, I think. ?. After 7 years of practice is all I could piece together. I know We have a 12 twelve step Tan tui which Muslim in origin, and Bagua Circle walking, and Hakka routines. Dae Woung's style is very traditional and rigidly difficult.
I was told at Dong Haichuan's current resting place. That this line had influence from Liu Chingfu. Known as Rice Liu in Beijing.
Thanks for sharing. However, while I'm grateful for what you're shared, the editing on this video was poorly done.
Perhaps it would have been better to leave a single explanation of the applications in place rather than chopping the seminar into pieces.
Laoshr #60
Ching Yi Kung Fu Association
I wanna learn this. It's beautiful
Thankyou verymuch ~😊
這位師父應該也兼修太極拳吧!
有些示範動作是太極推手。
能請教是哪一派的八卦掌嗎？
我是韩国的卢波人~
是多个研讨会内容的一部分, 作为对参加者的提问和要求的回答, 做出了那样的动作
많은 공부가 되었습니다
감사합니다
Is it tiyan lineages of bagua?
I live in koean ~
I don't see the Palm strikes do you practice the Palm strikes I see these Palm strikes that Master Park bok nam does.
Sure
오래 수련해야 경지에 오를것 같다는 생각이 들어요. 강의 중 목소리가 잘 안들리는 건...의도하신건가요?
영화 '엽문'에서 빠과장이 좀 바보같이 나온건 안타까웠어요...(홍권은 멋있게 나왔잖아요...ㅋ)
영춘권이나 복싱같은 빠른수기에 어떻게 대응하시나 보고 싶네요!
보법으로 교란하는 전술과 던지기 기술을
십분활용하는 방향으로 전개되어야 할듯 싶습니다
Was there master Lu shui tian in "Ip Man"?
The son of Lu sui tien have one disciple He is?
I belong to great lu 's lineage
I think that would be Park Bok Nam.
@@Bts-Korea012 really that's very interesting you can speak English you know who Lui shi tian linage is ? Who did he learn from ?
@@valmontmoore852
I know it clearly and I am organizing the contents
@@Bts-Korea012 where do you live in Korea?
I didn't know there was Ba Gua in Korea!! Does he live there?
Bagua was spread to Korea before the Korean War. It was first introduced over 80 years ago.After the Korean War, it began to spread to Koreans only in South Korea and developed into a unique way of pragmatism. I also live in Korea.
who is this teacher?
it's me
@@Bts-Korea012 I see. Very nice ba gua.