What If Obi Wan FOUGHT Darth Sidious on Mandalore
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ต.ค. 2024
- As Kenobi left Mandalore after Satine's Death and Sidious arrived to confront Maul and Savage, what could've happened if they met? Would Kenobi be able to survive a duel against Sidious or would he die at the hands of the Dark Lord of the Sith?
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How would the Sith order have changed if the Dark Jedi, Ajunta Pall, and his fellow exiles landed on Lehon instead of Korriban?
Did you just jump from like 6k to 11k subs?
What if maul killed Ashoka on mandalore
What if savage opress and maul survived their duel with sidious on mandalore
What if sidious sent count dooku to mandalore deal with maul and savage
Obi-wan: I'm here for maul, why are you here?
Sidious: you're here for maul? I'm here for Maul!
Palpy team up
Obi won I don’t think so
Palpy you’ll die for your lack of imagination
Bokatan: Ok who else is here for maul?
@@Rhino-Prime Bokatan: you're here for maul, he's here for maul, I'm here for maul! Is there anyone else looking for Maul?
Mother Talsin: hello, have you gentlemen seen a red zabrak?
Obi-wan: I'm here for Maul.
Palpatine: Um yes yes so am I.
Obi-wan: Oh, you know how to fight chancellor? OK so why are you wearing the cloak of a Sith, chancellor? And why are your eyes yellow? And why are your light sabers red in....wait a second!
@@Godzilla00X hahaha 🤣
Sidious stabbing Obi-Wan makes me realize that our favorite Sith is lucky Anakin didn't reach him before Plo Koon finished him. 😂
Plo koon I thought it was Mace Windu
@@kimicomiko it was
@@VArisTHE_sinnerrr No. It was Plo who dealt the killing blow.
@@danielallen4450 oh you mean in the story
Very lucky
Dude Anakin crying over Obi Wan's body and talking to him for hours about his deepest secrets is so sad but perfect for his character.
Bitter sweet ending to Kenobi, sad that he die but he did hold his own. Glad to see Palpatine taken out and Dooku taking over for the separatist. I really liked this outcome with Anakin finding peace in the end.
Legit teared up
Honestly it's interesting to think that Sidious honestly thought very little of Obi-Wan. He expected Kenobi to die repeatedly and never thought he could ever defeat Anakin. Obi-Wan might be one of 3 Jedi during the Clone Wars era actually able to stand up to or maybe even beat Sidious.
To my knowledge at the time Obi-Wan was the Jedi that had faced the most dark side force users and specifically Sith that was active at the time. And because of his Mastery of Soresu he might be able to hold off Sidious for quite a long time and again if not indefinitely
I agree, Palpatines underestimation of Obiwan really screwed him over in the long run 😂 Kenobi is in my opinion arguably the best duelist in the order second only to Yoda in terms of skill. Mace was very skilled but vapaad gives him a major edge, he even admitted that Obiwans mastery of soresu supercedes his skill. However Palpatines force powers are simply too much for Kenobi to handle and he would never lose his composure like Anakin or Maul. Eventually as the duel dragged on Obiwan would tire and make a mistake and Sidious would kill him.
@@Pandemia616 Maybe? There is also a point that Obi-Wan might be able to outlast Sidious. It's in his benefit for a battle to drag on for a long period and Sidious tended towards an Ataru/Jar-Kai style which Kenobi I'd specifically very very familiar with. I think that Sidious' force powers would be a major problem but his primary go to is lightning which probably wouldn't have been the most effective against a duelist like Kenobi. Not saying Obi-Wan would win consistently or even on most occasions but I do think he stands a better chance than most
I think Several Jedi and Dark Jedi could give Sidious problems 1 on 1 using the battlefield to their advantage (purely dueling)
Ventress, Sora Bulq, Dooku, , Pong Krell, Grievous, Obi-Wan, Mace, Oppo Rancisis, Yoda, Anakin, Plo Koon, and Quinlan Vos
If Sidious reverts to force only Yoda, Anakin, and perhaps Mace could beat him. 2003 Mace can shatter entire droid armies with Shatterpoint
If you threw Obi-Wan, Shaak Ti and Plo Koon at Sidious in a fight, I’d argue they’d win.
Obi Wan was powerful and a great duelist but he just unfortunately had a lower skill cap than Anakin,Palp,and Yoda. In terms of martial prowess him beating Vader was probably the most he would be able to do.
Being backed up more powerful members of the Order like Yoda,Windu,Koon,and even Anakin makes someone like Kenobi a real threat because Kenobi can bear the brunt of a lot of Palps attack while someone else goes on offense.
this might be an interesting story idea: What if Obi Wan Kenobi was a general in the rebellion during the battle of hoth for example
I think dooku would pretty quickly renounce the sith ways after the death of palpatine, However I do still think he would lead the separatist cause, it wasn't an entirely bad cause, and I'm pretty sure dooku had some personal ties to it (I could be wrong about that though), maybe getting rid of some of the bad aspects of it after leaving the corruption of the dark side
It's the best when stuff gets far fetched like this. I like how detailed your sequence of events are.
Thank you so much!
Bro, Anakin in tears over Obi-Wan had me in tears. Amazing story!
I know other people have already done this but I would like to hear your version of it. “What is Jango Fett didn’t die”
Great what-if! I thoroughly enjoyed this one!
I think I know another what-if that could be very interesting. What if Darth Maul was found by Mother Talzin?
This plot hole has plagued my mind for some time now, as we never got an explanation as to why Talzin never bothered to find Maul despite knowing he was alive for all those years.
I would love to see this what-if realised!
I think Dooku would have joined the republic again after hearing that PP was killed, his whole goal was to kill him eventually and also try to win Kenobi over and over again throughout the series.
I think he would have been tried for war crimes and the murder of his entire family 😂
I highly doubt he would yes that is true but the reason why he's left was because he hated the corruption of the galactic Republic and the Jedi losing the way that is why he left why would he join an organization again he left for corruption Count Dooku was never a villain he was doing what he thought was right
@@thermslusitania1151done what he thought was right but ended up being part of the poison
What if General Grievous went in hiding on Mandalore instead of utapau it would be a three-way War Republic separatist fleets in the skies above with the Mandalorian fortresses blow imagine General Grievous Darth Maul Kenobi in a three-way Battle Royale
Don’t forget Ashoka, and if this happens the council would send more Jedi
@@Sithbuilder it would be truly glorious
I have always imagined a scenario like this. All the 3 main factions at the time of Revenge of the Sith fighting in one epic long battle
I was just thinking it might’ve been kind of fun if after the hood got sliced off Canobie reacts in shock “Chancellor????”
And then Darth Sidious being royally pissed that it’s stuck around risking exposure in order to cover up the exposure he had assumed happened but it hadn’t happened.
Honestly after watching “what if mother talzin raised anakin” I’ve been loving the idea of anakin not knowing anyone from the Jedi order. Him just living his life and sometimes or at least one in his life meeting the people from the order.
This was most impressive what if Count Dooku became the Grand Master of the Jedi Order how would it change would Count Dooku discover the Sith Lord would Qui-Gon Jinn his Apprentice be the chosen one
Grand master just means the oldest and wisest Jedi, which after Yoda would fall to Oppo Rancis. Master of the Order is what you mean, and that position is held by Windu.
@@galaxyforever70367 is there a grand master of the Jedi Order who is in charge of the Jedi Order
@@spencerpollock5688 grand master yoda
I don't think that would make qui Gon the chosen one. That part probably wouldn't be affected at all.
@@Dakarai_Knight this is true but it would be a very interested story and what if Count Dooku became the Grand Master of the Jedi Order
Wonderful story as Darth isidious once said you have done well lol.But I would have add qui Gonna contacting Anakin and Yoda after Kenobi's death . Also I think it sounds a little silly but I think Anakin would have named his son after Kenobi instead of Luke just speculating..But love how you had the clones and droids enter into society . Great video.
What if Ahsoka was assigned to the bad batch as a member of their team
NICELY DONE!!! Just discovered your channel in my feed and looking forward to checking out your other what if vids!! Also, completely agree with you about Obi Wan's chances. He was strong, but his skill with Form III would have only allowed him to hold out against Sidious for so long.
Thank you so much!
#PentePatrolStsrWars If only so I Wan learned Vapaad and some Shstter Point from Mace Windu to go along with Ben’s masterful defence skills. Maybe you could do a What iF regarding that and have Kenobi Hold out against Sidious longer and fend him off even if, not right kill or defeat him with Vapaad especially????
What if the Eternal Empire returned during the Imperial age of Civil War?!
Yes! I've been wondering that myself!
Yes please! I need this!
Yes
Galactic Empire squashes Eternal Empire and business goes on as usual.
Who?
Always worth it to listen to your videos
this theory was amazing! Probably my favorite yet! the ending was great and the story flowed perfectly. Keep up the great work!
Thank you so much!
I enjoyed this one. I actually was wondering on this scenario myself once. I'll note that Kuat would have been near impossible for Grevious's fleet to take due to the Kuat defense fleet having the among it the largest warships in the Republic Fleet at the time: Praetor Battlecruisers and Mandator II Star Dreadnaughts. I'd also note that the flagship of the fleet in the final battle would have been an Imperator (ISD) Class Star Destroyer as the famous ISD was introduced at the hind end of the Clone Wars seeing limited use. Kit Fisto vs Grievous hmm never would have figured that but yeah Form 1 could easily counter Grevious's combat algorithms and made the fight unwinnable for him by the way Fisto is among four jedi who survived combat with Sidious for more then a few minutes so if you can survive for that long against Sidious you can beat Greivous.
Now for my interesting one what if Qui-Gon Jinn survived his duel with Maul (Also Obi-Wan survives it too just for reference) and make this a Qui-Gon who is a mix of canon and Legend Qui-Gon that way it makes training Anakin a bit easier as in the EU Qui-Gon did have a love interest a fellow Jedi who met a tragic end (You know its quite a trend that Jedi Romances tend to end in tragedy though in the case of EU Luke I blame that on the bad writing of the Legacy of the Force Novels and the Vong War which I consider non-canon it is those two events because man they basically are the reason the EU was killed by Disney) and how that would impact galactic events. Also What if Darth Bane never created the Rule of Two now that would be a VERY interesting scenario.
bro wrote a entire essay
What if the whole Jedi counsell trained Anakin?
The ultimate troll move. Make the enemy think you are retreating when you are calling for backup.
Hey pente, heres a real interesting what if i think you should do next! What if Anakin accidently slashed padme in her chest while she was sleep during her assination attempt in the clone wars movie his saber was pretty close
i love the refferences you put in sometimes
I wanna re subscribe the amount of effort you put into each video is awesome. It made me think what would happen if sidious just died. What would a plan be for dooku?
Thank you so much!
What if "Mastet Skywalker! Theres too many of them! What are going to do?!" Padawn Youngking #3 was the chosen one?
No Obi-Wan had no chance against Sidious its just that simple.
Even if by some small chance he could keep up with Sidious in Lightsaber combat he would be completely overwhelmed by Sidious force abilities.
In this scenario, I see Anakin naming his son “Obi-Wan Skywalker” after his late mentor and father figure
What if the high ground was only obtained through the use of explicit materials substances we all know he likes his alcohol, otters, deathsticks, jet, spice. His power comes from letting the force take the wheel might be easier when fucken up .Do it
I have asked this before so I'll try again, what if the force never existed? How would the history of the Galaxy have developed? Would the infinite Empire have become into being as a technology-driven threat? Would the Hutts still rule the galaxy? How would history of been so changed without the force?
The combination of Obi-Wan's defensive lightsaber style, and Mandlorian armor, would be an impressive boost in combat ability. Maybe enough to grant him a win in my opinion.
What if Greivous and the separatists hide on Mandalor instead of Utupa? Would this be a three way fight between the separatists,Muals crimson dawn Mandalorian cammandos and the Republic.
what if obi wan turned to the dark side after satine's death
(Anakin) I shouldn’t it’s nothing and I weigh
(Organa) don’t do it
Around 25:50, I yelled out loud "Let's goooooo!" when Bail Organa stepped up!
Amazing video once again Pente!
Thank you so much!
i feel that obi-won should have survived, since yoda has the ability to heal and resurrect the dead
Not the story I wanted, but it ended up being the story I needed to see. Thanks for the entertaining story!
What if count dooku, maul, savage and ventress all teamed up to try and kill palpatine
They die
If they killed him, darth banes spirit would lecture him. Bro the rule of two is there for a reason.
What if dooku, Greivous, Maul, savage and ventress teamed up to kill palpatine
What if the Emperor was played by Marlon Brando and Luke Skywalker played by Jack Nicholson?
What if Snoke didn’t die?
Loved it! Well done, and a very fun ride, indeed.
Why hasn’t Lucasfilm hired you as a writer yet?!! You have the most entertaining Star Wars What-If’s. If Disney decides to make a Star Wars What-If series (like the Marvel one), they need you on the writing staff!!! 🔥🔥💯💯
Lmao thank you so much!
What If *Ahsoka Tano* Fought Darth Sidious? Or maybe even Anakin and Obi-Wan with them. Yeah, that’s it! What If Ahsoka Tano, Anakin Skywalker, and Obi-Wan Kenobi Fought Darth Sidious?
What if the crew of the Ebon Hawke (KOTOR I) was sent to the Clone Wars after the Battle of Lethon?
2 and a half duelists 😂
What if obi-wan saved Satine from maul on mandalore?
Doubt much would differ. No relationship change in the two. Satine will still be a passivist. Some political stuff on mandelore that could go either way as they needed to disprove satine "killing" Visla & prove death watch was behind the crime surge. So there would be a three way civil war or a republic vs. Death Watch civil war (eventually, after seeing hiw the wind blows on madelore and when a chance presents itself. They can't invade a neutral system without proof and satine would still refuse to join the republic) that would cause political problems for Satine. Most likely Bo would hide with her mando's scheming for another chance to change their people's culture to the original mando way. But most likely wouldn't side with satine & the republic. Or would side with them and then betray her by making her seem weak and needing the republics help. Going against her stance of neutrallity etc. (My thoughts on it)
What if Obi Wan helped Qui Gon with Maul on Tatooine in the Phantom Menace?
What do all the surviving Jedi after order 66 decided to stick together and make a some kind of secret Jedi order and training people who are force sensitive to eventually get there revenge on palpatine and vader
I just found you, and i am really impressed. I was hooked from the beginning. Your storytelling is very good.
I think i have to bingewatch at the weekend 😅. Greetings from Austria.
Thank you so much!
Bro i just saw a video reading legends saying Obi Wan used to wake up with Anakin laying on the floor bc Anakin was so scared that something would happaend to Obi Wan. (Loosing his mother and QuinGon)
Yes Anakin doesn’t handle death and lost well particularly when it’s some one he dependent on like Obi wan , Padme and Ahsoka.
Over 13k subs already. Your channel is really taking off. And no wonder. Great stories!
I get to be like #1000. Thanks for this vid.
Thank you so much!
Cool story. Another good one. Thanks again for your creativity and imagination. It would be really cool to see Asoka Tano find and train Ezra Bridger. Also caleb doom discovers a vong infiltrater that is on a scouting mission and lives to tell about it. Throw in Thrawn and his people into the mix. Interesting to see what you make of that one. Do you think they would help the Republic or conquer them. What gives them best chance of survival maybe even victory for both the chis and Republic against the vong.
Obi wan when he first sees Sidious: "another one are you fucking kidding me"
Both palpatine and kenobi going to fight maul at the same time:
Palpatine: oh hey kenobi
Also palpatine: OH FUCK ITS KENOBI
I disagree. Obi Wan was very strong in the force. While not on the same level as Anakin or Luke, it was still enough to earn him a seat on the Jedi Council. Plus Obi Wan was very skilled with lightsaber combat.
He used Soresu which uses an enemy's speed against them. It blocks attacks which causes enemies to faulter or tire. This is how Obi Wan beat Savage Oppress and Anakin. I have no doubt he would best Sidious in combat.
nah man.. sidious is way too powerful, only windu and yoda can beat him in lightsaber duel. sidious probably just ragdoll obi wan with the force like count dooku did to him in rots
@@Lyaagato while Obi wan wasn't on the same level of Yoda,mace and Anakin where force powers are concerned he was strong in the force and the first Jedi to fight and beat a Sith as a padawan and survive in a thousand years And he was a powerful fighter but he was also very smart and cunning so he would be a lot harder too beat than palpatine would realise and while he wouldn't beat palpatine beat alone ( the truth is that no one but Anakin had that kind of force power not even Yoda or Mace could beat palpatine alone only Anakin or maybe Luke had the power to do that) he could hold his own and inflict some very serious injuries too palpatine until the other Jedi such as Anakin arrived and onice the other Jedi arrived Palpatine would have face not just Obi wan but a pissed off Anakin who would see palpatine trying kill Obi wan and would put a end to palpatine before Yoda ,mace or plo koon could even ignite their light sabres.
@@corinnepage9600 maul lost because he let his guard down and become cocky, count dooku literally just playing around with obi wan in aotc and rots, and what stopping sidious for using the force pull/throw like he did to maul in clone war series? surely sidious realize that dueling with obi wan is just waste of time and start using the force power which is obi wan biggest weakness
@@Lyaagato the 1st time maul lost to Obi wan may have be down to mauls arrogance but the second and third time maul lost to Obi wan were down to the fact that Obi wan was a much better sword man that maul seeing as Obi wan actually killed maul the third time . As for dooku if you watch clone wars you will see that dooku ran away from most of the fights with Obi wan and Anakin because he knew that he didn't stand a chance against both Obi wan and Anakin and in revenge of the Sith dooku was actually shitting his pants in the fight against both Obi wan and Anakin as they were far better sword men than he was by that point. Sidious would undoubtedly would underestimate Obi wan s abitlities and whilst Obi wan propably couldn't full out beat palpatine in a one on one fight ( no one but Anakin had the power to do that not even Yoda) Obi wan most likely could hold his own against palpatine until Anakin showed up plus do you really think that a on the lightside Anakin would allow palpatine to live if palpatine injured Obi wan ( no Anakin would NOT!) So mace and plo koon wouldn't even get the chance to fight palpatine.
@@corinnepage9600 obviously old ben is stronger than maul at that point.. we talking about obi wan before the fall of jedi, when did count dooku shit his pants? he just clap obi wan with his force power alone, not to mention obi wan's soresu is useless against dooku's makashi, anakin is the only one who can fight dooku at that time because anakin’s aggressive and overpowering djem so was the perfect foil to dooku’s makashi and since dooku is weaker than sidious(the guy who mastered all 7 form) you can imagine how badly obi wan lost right there, i agree about obi wan slow down sidious until the reinforcement came just like in this video, but the original comment say "I have no doubt he would best Sidious in combat." is just purely bs and nonsense
with the explanation of Obi wan being a better pilot, and therefor he should go faster, but palps manages to catch up anyways, could have explained with a leaking coolant pipe/hose instead on Obi's speeder...
that way you would not contradict yourself
What if Anakin fought Sidios in the revenge of the Sith
now the real clone wars begins
This is my first time watching one of your videos I will say at 42:00-42:30 you said the same thing twice. Nothing wrong with it I had to go back and re listen to the video then to make sure I heard a part that was in their twice. If you can I recommend editing but idk 🤷🏼♂️ lol also this was a good story and I can tell you put thought in to this. Nice job!
I am just surprised that yoda didn’t feel them once the forced has clearer out they are the children of Anakin
Can we get a What if where Obi Wan Kenobi and Maul worked together with Savaage to Kill Sidious or at least fend him off and discover that he’s the chancellor??? (Obi Wan discovering that Palpy is the Sith Lord)
Hey could you maybe do a fanfic with the Yuuhzan Vong? Like if they appeared during the clone wars
Your success is well earned, sir. Congratulations.
Thank you so much!
Don't know if an already exhausted Sidious would be able to cut off one of Windu's arms
How did i miss this one!?!?!?
Do a video with what if asajj ventress Join the Jedi order As a child I think she can relate to Anakin and she would be great friends with Anakin she could even stand up for Anakin every time he was bullied by his fellow classmates because she was a slave to someone who took away from her home
Can you do what if obi wan turned to the dark side after satines death
Or
What if obi wan joined dooku in epsiode 2
What if the council got Anakin the therapy he needed?
What if Master Yoda turned to the dark side during the clone wars.
Every main character in the clone wars and prequels and the original trilogy fought Sidous but Obi Wan.....thats actually kinda crazy.
BROOOO you're gonna make me cry. not obi-wan not again.
24:30 dammit I'm crying 😭😭
Awesome story but I think you underestimate anakin against grievous
Agreed anakin would have destroyed him
Outstanding!!! 👍🏾 I 😊 the video and ❤️ the ending.
Thank you so much!
If Sidious had killed Obi wan It wouldn’t be peace that Anakin found it would be the dark side and if Plo koon hadn’t killed Sidious and Anakin would have brought a whole world of pain on Sidious and on Galaxy and nothing not even Padme could have stopped him.
Great what if, although I do feel like you somewhat nerfed Anakin in this, particularly against general grevious. That aside I absolutely loved the way you handled Obi-wan vs darth sidious amoungst most other duels
Only way for Obiwan to win is to have the high groind
What if mace windu killed palpatine before anakin could strike and then fought and killed anakin
Imagine if Sidious and obi wan fought maul together lol😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂!!!!!
In this timeline Anakin would I feel embarrassed Dooku cause obi wan was the only Jedi how I believe could keep Anakin tame without any force trick or lightsaber skills.
DAMN i may have shed a tear
What if plo koon was the master of the jedi order instead of mace windu. What if plo koon told Qui-gon jinn that the jedi Council would consult the jedi archives and meditate on the force concerning the fate of the chosen one and his mother. Also that another jedi knight would a company the jedi back to the planet of naboo. The knight would have been a Knight for 10 years at least to be chosen to a company Qui-gon jinn and friends. Kind regards from Daniel Harman.
That intro sound.
Ow. Lmao.
this almost made me cry :(
i like this theory it's not just like the senate killed all jedi masters and nothing hapoened or the senate is dead gg republic won the war what else do you need
Nathan james I'm here and the force is my guide 😁great video peaceful ending 🤘😎
Thank you so much!
What if anakin struck down sidious in revenge of the sith and taking the thrown and anakin survives the duel with obi wan just for them to meet again in their old age when the galaxy is on fire for everything anakin has learned from the lies of the jedi to the betrayal of sidious a grandfather to anakin the attempts on padme life and all the times he persuaded his career now to turn his brother against him and ends up still force choking padme killing her and the kids for real this time obi wan didnt have time to go to the ship and save her he lost the duel anakin/vader survives unharmed. Duel of fate would be vader full power against kenobi and his followers that rally behind him from the worlds vader destroyed in his rage. The fight rages on.
What is Qui Gon Jinn and his love Tahl both trained Anakin?
What if dooku was the sith master and palpatine was his apprentice?!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Since Palpatine is a smart Sith Lord He will kill Obi Wan, Maul, and Savage in a few seconds instead of playing around because he sensed that if he toyed with them then it will give Obi Wan time to call Jedi reinforcements
Arrogance blinded him
Would be nice to see this what if be animated.
A future goal is to animate all of these videos
Could you do? what if the Sith enpire returnd during the Galactic civil war
20:40
2 and a half Jedi
lol
Damn sidious is a beast. My fvkin favorite
I feel like the separatists wouldn't only ask for an election, maybe asking for slightly more autonomy from the republic.
Otherwise, they would annoy the populace of their own planet if they seemed to start a war over nothing, and a minor change could be enough to portray it as a kind of victory.
Story Idea: what if anakin fell in love with Kit Fisto
What if Obi Wan went to kill the Emperor with Yoda, leaving just Padme to try to turn Anakin back
i feel that the republic would start recruiting normies if there was a all out attack