One thing people don't realize about condorr is that it works relatively well, is cheap, and can always be upgraded to something else and then used for buddy gear.
You know who has battle tested Condor? Mara Salvatrucha, Los Macheteros, Los Contra, numerous military units in Central América, Latin Police Departments, Milicias Campesinas.
I use condor chest rigs, love them. Never had a problem with any of them, going on 6 years on my oldest. Plate carriers, I went with an HRT Tactical, but I had specifics I was looking for (modular placards, multi role, one to do it all) and they came highly recommended (and interchanged with my guys). Overall I’d say Condor makes good products.
They sent me a replacement recon chest rig because the one I got first had a strap hanging on by 1/4 of an inch and some unstitching by the straps on the corners. They sent me a new one but this one seems to have some loose stitching on the corners of the straps just from adjusting the straps . Is this ok or will it hang on , or not ?
@@JR-ld1ethit any and all loose or fuzzy stitches with the bic lighter and I bet you’ll do that again in a couple months and then you’ll forget to do it and you’ll be surprised how long that thing might last. Mileage may vary depending on usage .
I’ve got quite a mix of gear; Milsurp, condor, safelife, eberlestock… I buy gear depending on my likely use. Fact is, it’s pretty unlikely that I’ll need to “kit-up” at any point, so I’m not spending $50 on a single HSGI pistol mag pouch. Id rather put the coin towards food, ammo, first aid, and other preps.
I have an older condor plate carrier. I don't remember the model. I have had this rig for at least 10 years. The only upgrade I have done is the blaze defense cobra qd cummerbund kit. Still works great. Save the cash for other things. Good video
I buy and use some Condor stuff...its fine. I also have some items I purchased that cost a little more. thing is, even the more expensive stuff can have flaws. Get gear that works for you and fits in your budget. I also believe one should be versed in being able to use a needle and thread to fix their gear. Its not the gear that brings us together....it is the values and beliefs we all have that brings us together.
I have a lot of Condor LBE that I use for training, hunting, and camping. I have only had minor issues with any of it, and this is with fairly heavy use. No complaints with Condor gear.
I don’t know about their plate carriers but, I wear the Condor Cipher pants almost exclusively. I have NINE pairs of them, 3x in three different colors (grey/khaki/brown). I wear them to church, to Walmart, to the park with the kids, to the mall with my nieces, to the range, to dates with Tinder. I have worn them out on spot & stalk bowhunts and even climbing up a couple of 14’s in Colorado etc etc. I have never been told anything derogatory or bad about these pants…IF they said anything, it’s been that they look nice or cool or something like that. Get some. You won’t regret it.
I owned a GEN 1 MOPC in MC. No issues. AT ALL. Used it for training while on Active Duty and never had any real issues. I now own a GEN 2 MOPC in Black. Same thing. No issues and I train with it. As long as you keep your gear clean and up to par. No real issues. If you’re worried about it falling apart. Take it to a seamstress and have it double or triple stitched. All of that other pricey stuff is really for door kickers who do this religiously. As a civilian your not fighting taliban or seal team 6. Like be for real for when you get this stuff and what you’ll be using it for. Also awesome video!
I have the MPOC carrier, 4 of the chest rigs, belts, drop leg units, and a lot of pouches - no problems so far. Not that I do all the stuff you may do, but for my purposes, they are excellent - good looking stitches, comfortable, and color is consistent.
I've used condor for almost 7 years myself. Mostly good luck with it all and have had Mayflower systems - whatever ya name and condor always pulled its weight. I mean like 35 lbs or more every weekend for a year and then 2times a month for last 3 years or so. Great video brother keep it up!!!
Thank you!!!! I try to talk to guys all the time and tell them to work within your means. I'm not gonna tell you don't by a JPC if you have the money but you need to ask yourself "do I need this". I've been rocking a Condor since 2014 with their Sentry. Not great but is a good option if you're looking to a PC to work out it. I made the switch to a MOPC in 2015. Been using one ever since with hsgi mag pouches and steel from CATI. I use their LCS gun belt. I love it as I'm not a fan of two piece belt systems. I also have their 3 day assault pack. Great pack for the money. Find the best economical option for you and go train.
I have multiple condor rigs - like you I have made my own adaptations. One of my rigs has seen many hours on the ground and has been hosed off multiple times and is still ready to rally. I also have some high speed Beez Combat Systems gear - it is lighter, more mission specific, and is well engineered for a lot more money. That said my go-to is the old broken in Condor.
The cheapest Condor plate carrier you can get is still miles beyond stuff Soviet paratroopers were using in the late 80's which were basically just straps with double layered and double stitched heavy canvass with pockets in it. I've got the Condor cyclone carrier with a 3x m4/pistol kangaroo pouch on the front and two Condor pistol magazine pouches on my belt and never had a single tear or threadbreak or anything.
I make enough money to buy any plate carrier I want but I refuse to throw money away by buying overly priced items. I have two condor plate carriers, been through 3 separate two day classes and works just fine. No need to go spend an outrageous amount of money on overpriced items that are also made in China
Great video and so true about Condor vs. "Mil-Spec" products, also the buckle mod that you did for the vanquish cummerbund front attach is spot on, not only for fit, but additionally to help keep the sides of the front flap from catching any branches/rocks/etc. while up-right or in the prone position. Thanks for sharing and blessings to you and your family.
One day while we were in history class learning about Genghis Khan, Russian paratroopers started landing on our highschool football field. Luckily, I had my Condor plate carrier on underneath my Wolverine letterman's jacket and was able to immediately jump into action and do battle against the commies. GO WOLVERINES!
The buckle on my ACH chin strap crack in the same location when I was in Afghanistan. I just wrapped it in duck tape trimmed it out with my knife and kept going. Never had another issue with it.
Chest rigs and battle belts cool but plate carrier came unstitched and fell apart i restitched it and mended a few times it still works but i dont run plates in it anymore. It held up good for a year but i used it alot. I put it through the pases so i got my money out of it. Cumberbund fell apart alot sooner i ditched it.
pretty good too see that hes a smart guy and knows hes not current military as isnt trying to gear out like a operator or anything like that you have my respect. (former Australian soldier)
tyr tactical and haley strategic are airsoft gear also..... if thats what you use it for. its regardless what the gear company is aimed at, its the use of the end user that describes what the gear is. inless its an airsoft gun. i run alot of condor gear. its mostly quality gear made well. ive had more quality gear from condor, than not. i dont think ive had anything fail.
I got a condor softshell jacket that was like the rothco but lighter. No problems at all. I wouldn't trust it with my everyday life in the military but as a civilian it's fine. Get what you can afford and I have a condor chest rig actually too.
I will say this. I used a lot of condor gear a long time ago before I didn't know anything. I used to do a lot of airsoft, for like 15 years. Went through a lot of gear and used quite a bit of condor gear as well. It's ... Fine. BUT. It kind of falls into 2 things. So, first of all, at least back in the day they did have a lot more QC issues, so the shit you got back them generally wasn't as good or consistent. I had a GP/Utility pouch that was fine, my buddy got one and it wasn't even cut right. Like the pouch flap wasn't even level. Sticthing was awful, and if I remember correctly he had some issues with the velcro. That stuff happened A LOT. Nowadays it's a lot better. But that said, I don't use it because I have actual big boy stuff w/ my AVS and other things. BUT it's not terrible. If I had the money, would I choose condor vs other brands. Most definitely I would pick something over condor. Why? 2 reasons, first of all Condor is made overseas. So, if I can buy something American made I will. If you want to continue supporting China who's only going to take us over in 15 years, go ahead. But that's not for me. Point #2, you have NO idea what their shit is made out of 99% of the time. They always just say "Made with nylon " or "Made with durable nylon". If it was 500D, 600D, 1000D, whatever... They would say it. But they don't. So, what is it made out of? IMO it's probably the cheapest stuff you can get. I've had condor pouches rip and fail when (Personally) I thought they shouldn't. They do wear out a lot quicker and just aren't up to long term use. I've NEVER had a condor pouch last more than ... 2 or so years with not even high use (I used to go airsofting 2-3 times a week and would airsoft for generally 4 or so hours when I was there). Does it matter for me, no. I don't even own any condor pouches anymore. Everything I have is Crye, Spiritus, Ferro, etc. Not to sound like I'm trying to flex but my point is this. All the "real shit" so to speak hasn't failed me and I've LITERALLY abused them. I've been running them harder than I ever did any of my airsoft shit. I've been drug around in it - and I'm fat af. I've gone swimming with them. Most recently I was out doing winter survival classes and training last month in 5-10F weather for 4 days and had 0 issues. Would my condor pouches hold up after all that? I know for A FACT it would not have. Now, is it worth the price I can't say for you. For my AVS, you could have ... Probably 10 - 20 condor setups. But I definitely don't have that much space or time. But if you don't have the money, I would say it's fine getting condor shit (If you don't mind supporting Chyna) - just don't think it's "jUsT aS gOoD". Have realistic expectations and when your shit does fail/break make sure you have some backups.
I've used alot of different condor gear over the years and it's fine for the average person especially for the price, granted ive never taken it through an apocalypse and hopefully never have to.
Brah it’s double stitched, it’s good gear. Y’all shouldn’t let marketing influence ya’s. And yer right when “I’m footing the bill” you have to know when and where to spend the money, fire arms send it son, gear and equipment get what works! Great content brother.
They just sent me a replacement recon chest rig that seems to be unstitching or has loose stitching at the corners where the straps are connecting… is this normal of them but it still holds together or did I get two duds
For several years now, I've been using RTS Tactical and AR500Armor plate carriers. They're a bit more expensive than Condor, but I have a LOT of gear that's Condor, including hydration bladders & covers. I ignore the tacti-snobs who call Condor "airsoft cosplay material". They overlook how durable this is. I have TQ and IFAK pouches made by Condor and they have yet to fail. Bottom line, if you're on a very limited budget, go with Condor's MOPC and Botach's armor plates.
Owned and used Condor gear. Condor is budget gear and you should expect budget quality. The seams and stitching do not last. You can’t gift wrap a turd.
I've got a bunch that is and a bunch that isn't. Does my condor hold up/work as well as the stuff thats not? No it doesn't. Does it hold up/work well for its price? Yes it does. Does the degree to which it holds up/work compared to other gear outperform the price difference? Also yes. Thus I have both, price per performance condor is hard to beat, especially if you're planning on beating up gear or having a loaner/back up set. Another brand of "airsoft" gear that I've been impressed by for its performance/price ratio compared to others is Emerson gear. If you like HSGI tacos check their pouches too as a back up set to test out. They come with shock cord retainers too (you can take them off easy if you want but I actually like them).
We do not talk about doing mean things to others on YT right? Something to consider is as a person that will not be "deployed" to do the airsoft things be realistic. One may kit up and practice with all the most expensive airsoft kit ony to a. Never use it in a real airsoft environment or b. Only need it less than a handful of times with normies in airsoft and c. Be in a situation where the amount invested doesn't improve odds, say an overwhelming/surprise encounter with superior airsoft opposition or tactics. That being said having a rig that will project strength to normies in an unstable IRL environment would not necessarily be a bad thing.
My Condor gear has never failed. It's bulky, it's heavy, it's sometimes awkward, but it isn't going to fall apart
One thing people don't realize about condorr is that it works relatively well, is cheap, and can always be upgraded to something else and then used for buddy gear.
It's not the plate carrier it's the cardio that matters most
Very true
We have used Condor plate carriers for 3 years now and Love It! The quality is good and it's comfortable. Best gear for the price in my opinion!
You know who has battle tested Condor? Mara Salvatrucha, Los Macheteros, Los Contra, numerous military units in Central América, Latin Police Departments, Milicias Campesinas.
I use condor chest rigs, love them. Never had a problem with any of them, going on 6 years on my oldest. Plate carriers, I went with an HRT Tactical, but I had specifics I was looking for (modular placards, multi role, one to do it all) and they came highly recommended (and interchanged with my guys). Overall I’d say Condor makes good products.
They sent me a replacement recon chest rig because the one I got first had a strap hanging on by 1/4 of an inch and some unstitching by the straps on the corners. They sent me a new one but this one seems to have some loose stitching on the corners of the straps just from adjusting the straps . Is this ok or will it hang on , or not ?
@@JR-ld1ethit any and all loose or fuzzy stitches with the bic lighter and I bet you’ll do that again in a couple months and then you’ll forget to do it and you’ll be surprised how long that thing might last. Mileage may vary depending on usage .
I’ve got quite a mix of gear; Milsurp, condor, safelife, eberlestock…
I buy gear depending on my likely use. Fact is, it’s pretty unlikely that I’ll need to “kit-up” at any point, so I’m not spending $50 on a single HSGI pistol mag pouch. Id rather put the coin towards food, ammo, first aid, and other preps.
Get what you want-rock what you got. I kinda like my ar500 over my condor but they do the same thing.
I have an older condor plate carrier. I don't remember the model. I have had this rig for at least 10 years. The only upgrade I have done is the blaze defense cobra qd cummerbund kit. Still works great. Save the cash for other things. Good video
Condor definitely deserves to have you brother 🛡🇺🇸
I buy and use some Condor stuff...its fine. I also have some items I purchased that cost a little more. thing is, even the more expensive stuff can have flaws. Get gear that works for you and fits in your budget. I also believe one should be versed in being able to use a needle and thread to fix their gear. Its not the gear that brings us together....it is the values and beliefs we all have that brings us together.
Yes, very good point
I literally used condor plate carrier in the army for years it’s the best
I have a bunch of Condor and VISM gear and I've train with it. Holds up just fine. I even went super cheap on some no named stuff and knockoffs.
Good job man. I have a mopc among a few others as well
This is a good review of condor from someone who’s been using it and doing the things.
Thanks Michael
I have a lot of Condor LBE that I use for training, hunting, and camping. I have only had minor issues with any of it, and this is with fairly heavy use. No complaints with Condor gear.
I don’t know about their plate carriers but, I wear the Condor Cipher pants almost exclusively.
I have NINE pairs of them, 3x in three different colors (grey/khaki/brown). I wear them to church, to Walmart, to the park with the kids, to the mall with my nieces, to the range, to dates with Tinder.
I have worn them out on spot & stalk bowhunts and even climbing up a couple of 14’s in Colorado etc etc.
I have never been told anything derogatory or bad about these pants…IF they said anything, it’s been that they look nice or cool or something like that.
Get some. You won’t regret it.
My favorite pants are the Helikon Urban Tactical pants
I owned a GEN 1 MOPC in MC. No issues. AT ALL. Used it for training while on Active Duty and never had any real issues. I now own a GEN 2 MOPC in Black. Same thing. No issues and I train with it. As long as you keep your gear clean and up to par. No real issues. If you’re worried about it falling apart. Take it to a seamstress and have it double or triple stitched. All of that other pricey stuff is really for door kickers who do this religiously. As a civilian your not fighting taliban or seal team 6. Like be for real for when you get this stuff and what you’ll be using it for. Also awesome video!
Thanks for the great comment
I have the MPOC carrier, 4 of the chest rigs, belts, drop leg units, and a lot of pouches - no problems so far. Not that I do all the stuff you may do, but for my purposes, they are excellent - good looking stitches, comfortable, and color is consistent.
I've used condor for almost 7 years myself. Mostly good luck with it all and have had Mayflower systems - whatever ya name and condor always pulled its weight. I mean like 35 lbs or more every weekend for a year and then 2times a month for last 3 years or so. Great video brother keep it up!!!
Dang fine review thank you sir
Good video as always brother I use condor a lot they make good gear for low budget
Thank you!!!! I try to talk to guys all the time and tell them to work within your means. I'm not gonna tell you don't by a JPC if you have the money but you need to ask yourself "do I need this". I've been rocking a Condor since 2014 with their Sentry. Not great but is a good option if you're looking to a PC to work out it. I made the switch to a MOPC in 2015. Been using one ever since with hsgi mag pouches and steel from CATI. I use their LCS gun belt. I love it as I'm not a fan of two piece belt systems. I also have their 3 day assault pack. Great pack for the money. Find the best economical option for you and go train.
I have multiple condor rigs - like you I have made my own adaptations. One of my rigs has seen many hours on the ground and has been hosed off multiple times and is still ready to rally. I also have some high speed Beez Combat Systems gear - it is lighter, more mission specific, and is well engineered for a lot more money. That said my go-to is the old broken in Condor.
The cheapest Condor plate carrier you can get is still miles beyond stuff Soviet paratroopers were using in the late 80's which were basically just straps with double layered and double stitched heavy canvass with pockets in it. I've got the Condor cyclone carrier with a 3x m4/pistol kangaroo pouch on the front and two Condor pistol magazine pouches on my belt and never had a single tear or threadbreak or anything.
All the snow is gone.
Put your money into the plate, not the plate carrier for the all molle attached just the same.
Naturally, some are better than others.
I make enough money to buy any plate carrier I want but I refuse to throw money away by buying overly priced items. I have two condor plate carriers, been through 3 separate two day classes and works just fine. No need to go spend an outrageous amount of money on overpriced items that are also made in China
I like em I've got 4 condors never any issues with em for me after 4ish years
Great video and so true about Condor vs. "Mil-Spec" products, also the buckle mod that you did for the vanquish cummerbund front attach is spot on, not only for fit, but additionally to help keep the sides of the front flap from catching any branches/rocks/etc. while up-right or in the prone position. Thanks for sharing and blessings to you and your family.
Thank you PO.
Thank you very much. I do need to get a plate carrier.
One day while we were in history class learning about Genghis Khan, Russian paratroopers started landing on our highschool football field.
Luckily, I had my Condor plate carrier on underneath my Wolverine letterman's jacket and was able to immediately jump into action and do battle against the commies.
GO WOLVERINES!
Rah
lmao
works for me n has held up n im rough on stuff
The buckle on my ACH chin strap crack in the same location when I was in Afghanistan. I just wrapped it in duck tape trimmed it out with my knife and kept going. Never had another issue with it.
Oh Mike you got the cool guy multicam colors on the mopc....coyote is the best color in my opinion.
Good stuff! Thanks.
YOU ARE SO RIGHT ABOUT THIS AND 4 OTHERS FROM CONDORS
I got rid of all clips on my right side. I didn't need the hang ups.
AR500 has great gear as well.
Chest rigs and battle belts cool but plate carrier came unstitched and fell apart i restitched it and mended a few times it still works but i dont run plates in it anymore. It held up good for a year but i used it alot. I put it through the pases so i got my money out of it. Cumberbund fell apart alot sooner i ditched it.
pretty good too see that hes a smart guy and knows hes not current military as isnt trying to gear out like a operator or anything like that you have my respect. (former Australian soldier)
I sure hope so, I have a decent amount of it lol
Sir…your plate carrier…will Ke ill
Awesome review brother Thank you
Stay Safe Bee 🐝 Well. Shaloha
Thanks for the info
You bet Paul
Not former military, and not a door kicker, It works for what I need it for and it doesnt break the bank for me.
Condor has NOT Failed me yet 👍
The only sucky thing is; I cant find any of this on amazon.
tyr tactical and haley strategic are airsoft gear also..... if thats what you use it for. its regardless what the gear company is aimed at, its the use of the end user that describes what the gear is. inless its an airsoft gun. i run alot of condor gear. its mostly quality gear made well. ive had more quality gear from condor, than not. i dont think ive had anything fail.
Good review ,thanks for sharing , God bless !
I got a condor softshell jacket that was like the rothco but lighter. No problems at all. I wouldn't trust it with my everyday life in the military but as a civilian it's fine. Get what you can afford and I have a condor chest rig actually too.
Condor gear isn't the best or most comfortable, but they work well enough & get the job done.
I will say this. I used a lot of condor gear a long time ago before I didn't know anything. I used to do a lot of airsoft, for like 15 years. Went through a lot of gear and used quite a bit of condor gear as well. It's ... Fine. BUT. It kind of falls into 2 things. So, first of all, at least back in the day they did have a lot more QC issues, so the shit you got back them generally wasn't as good or consistent. I had a GP/Utility pouch that was fine, my buddy got one and it wasn't even cut right. Like the pouch flap wasn't even level. Sticthing was awful, and if I remember correctly he had some issues with the velcro. That stuff happened A LOT. Nowadays it's a lot better. But that said, I don't use it because I have actual big boy stuff w/ my AVS and other things. BUT it's not terrible. If I had the money, would I choose condor vs other brands. Most definitely I would pick something over condor. Why? 2 reasons, first of all Condor is made overseas. So, if I can buy something American made I will. If you want to continue supporting China who's only going to take us over in 15 years, go ahead. But that's not for me. Point #2, you have NO idea what their shit is made out of 99% of the time. They always just say "Made with nylon
" or "Made with durable nylon". If it was 500D, 600D, 1000D, whatever... They would say it. But they don't. So, what is it made out of? IMO it's probably the cheapest stuff you can get. I've had condor pouches rip and fail when (Personally) I thought they shouldn't. They do wear out a lot quicker and just aren't up to long term use. I've NEVER had a condor pouch last more than ... 2 or so years with not even high use (I used to go airsofting 2-3 times a week and would airsoft for generally 4 or so hours when I was there). Does it matter for me, no. I don't even own any condor pouches anymore. Everything I have is Crye, Spiritus, Ferro, etc. Not to sound like I'm trying to flex but my point is this. All the "real shit" so to speak hasn't failed me and I've LITERALLY abused them. I've been running them harder than I ever did any of my airsoft shit. I've been drug around in it - and I'm fat af. I've gone swimming with them. Most recently I was out doing winter survival classes and training last month in 5-10F weather for 4 days and had 0 issues. Would my condor pouches hold up after all that? I know for A FACT it would not have. Now, is it worth the price I can't say for you. For my AVS, you could have ... Probably 10 - 20 condor setups. But I definitely don't have that much space or time. But if you don't have the money, I would say it's fine getting condor shit (If you don't mind supporting Chyna) - just don't think it's "jUsT aS gOoD". Have realistic expectations and when your shit does fail/break make sure you have some backups.
I've used alot of different condor gear over the years and it's fine for the average person especially for the price, granted ive never taken it through an apocalypse and hopefully never have to.
Not terrible for training application but combat operations it glows under night vision
Brah it’s double stitched, it’s good gear. Y’all shouldn’t let marketing influence ya’s. And yer right when “I’m footing the bill” you have to know when and where to spend the money, fire arms send it son, gear and equipment get what works! Great content brother.
Thank you brother
They just sent me a replacement recon chest rig that seems to be unstitching or has loose stitching at the corners where the straps are connecting… is this normal of them but it still holds together or did I get two duds
I have never seen that
@@AsymmetricalPreparedness crud
For several years now, I've been using RTS Tactical and AR500Armor plate carriers. They're a bit more expensive than Condor, but I have a LOT of gear that's Condor, including hydration bladders & covers. I ignore the tacti-snobs who call Condor "airsoft cosplay material". They overlook how durable this is. I have TQ and IFAK pouches made by Condor and they have yet to fail. Bottom line, if you're on a very limited budget, go with Condor's MOPC and Botach's armor plates.
Owned and used Condor gear. Condor is budget gear and you should expect budget quality. The seams and stitching do not last. You can’t gift wrap a turd.
I started using condor gear when condor was considered only airsoft gear....I think my first condor stuff was like 2007 or 2008
I think Condor gear is hit or miss. I have more good experience than bad though so I'm not going to stop using it.
I've got a bunch that is and a bunch that isn't.
Does my condor hold up/work as well as the stuff thats not? No it doesn't.
Does it hold up/work well for its price? Yes it does.
Does the degree to which it holds up/work compared to other gear outperform the price difference? Also yes.
Thus I have both, price per performance condor is hard to beat, especially if you're planning on beating up gear or having a loaner/back up set.
Another brand of "airsoft" gear that I've been impressed by for its performance/price ratio compared to others is Emerson gear. If you like HSGI tacos check their pouches too as a back up set to test out. They come with shock cord retainers too (you can take them off easy if you want but I actually like them).
"Best is the enemy of good enough." Condor is fine for 99% of the applications the common joe would ever find himself in.
Agreed
We do not talk about doing mean things to others on YT right? Something to consider is as a person that will not be "deployed" to do the airsoft things be realistic. One may kit up and practice with all the most expensive airsoft kit ony to a. Never use it in a real airsoft environment or b. Only need it less than a handful of times with normies in airsoft and c. Be in a situation where the amount invested doesn't improve odds, say an overwhelming/surprise encounter with superior airsoft opposition or tactics.
That being said having a rig that will project strength to normies in an unstable IRL environment would not necessarily be a bad thing.