British guitarist analyses Tina S's total lack of ANY inadequacy!!!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ธ.ค. 2018
- Tonight after many requests I'm taking a look at Tina S playing through her version of a Beethoven classic!
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I've been playing for 45 years. I have my master's degree in solo classical guitar performance. I'm considered to be very talented. Compared to this incredibly gifted lady, who I'm convinced is an alien from a far more technically developed planet, my playing sounds like my instrument. Is 4 rusty metal strings attached to a long steel pipe. Folks, you are listening to as close to perfection as it gets. I was at a concert in Lyon, France with her and Joe Satriani. They were playing simultaneously and at one point, Joe just stopped playing and walked over to Tina just to watch her. His face had a look of sheer joy and disbelief. When asked what he thought of Tina's playing, he stammered and murmured, "Fuck me sideways. She passed genius level lifetimes ago and has achieved perfection." this, from Joe Satriani, a true God.
Tina, le français est ma deuxième langue, et je voulais vous addresser dans notre langue maternelle. Le niveau d'expertise que vous démontrez, le cœur bouleversant et le sentiment que vous apportez à chaque pièce, me font pleurer et me font sourire plûtot au même temps. Merci beaucoup d'avoir partagé votre cadeau avec nous-autres, puis avev le monde entier
Thanks Fil :) you know why I'm thanking you :) I've heard very recently that Tina S deliberately left TH-cam because of some very nasty comnents/allegations/accusations that she's a fraud. Further, it's been said that she "speeds up the video to make it appear to be faster“. My response to that is as follows: the ONLY sort of person who could be stupid enough to make such a notion public couldn't be a guitarist. Or, if they are, they are enraged by the fact that a 17 year old could exhibit such mastery, and they themselves will never amount to anything more than a pint of piss. We REAL guitarists are only too aware of what both her hands are doing, and listen carefully you ignorant trolls, her hands match the sound output. I'm deeply offended (but not at all surprised) that anybody would soil such purity and brilliance with these jealous, petty accusations. I've reached out to her in a series of long tweets in French, reassuring her that her presence is vital to the guitar playing community. She has value. You trolls are mere placeholders. You Fil, your reaction vids are the best because you articulate what the players are doing in terms we understand. Most of the other vid reactions are genuine, but "fuck, what the.... Shit dude, what?" just doesn't feed the admiral's cat :) Keep doing your quality analyses. They are as valuable and appreciated as the playing. Cheers!
Hi, OG. To be honest, I can't offer you an explanation because I can't find the original post to which you responded and I'm sure it is quite dated. Sorry. If it was disparaging to Tina in anyway I'm sure it was intended experimental sarcastic. I have the utmost respect and regard for her and would defend her under any circumstances, and have on many. Beyond that, I can't be more specific.
I particularly like this video and it's commentor because he takes apart her performance with the knowledge of a true professional who's been there and points out many of the things that make her and this performance so special. If I've said otherwise elsewhere, I apologise.

OG Gamer Palm Springs, CA
randolph timm plays with such carelessness? Your question, or your point, doesn't make much sense. That, or you didn't communicate it on the level that you intended, because my take away was "what did he just say?" I'm very reluctant to discuss my own credentials until I encounter a post like yours. You say that you "obviously" interact with gifted, or on the spectrum kids. How is this obvious to a group of total strangers? I said earlier that I have a master's degree in solo classical guitar performance. But, being the insane over achiever that i am, I also have a PhD in Psychology, Deviancy and Aberrant Behavior. So I'm not understanding your post at all. Can you rephrase it maybe? I'd actually like to pursue this aspect of the convo. And to the illiterate fool calling Dolphin all kinds of ridiculous things, I'd put those stones back in your pocket, bro. You have no right to throw them. His comments are thoughtful and clear. Whether or not you agree couldn't be less important. My guess is that the allegory eludes you completely. Mores the pity.
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Just curious, OG.. You sure this was me?? Doesn't sound like me.🤔
Did he get screwed sideways?
There are very very very few guitarists who ever reach this level of proficiency ... to reach this level at 17 is simply incomprehensible. Show this video to ANY guitarist and their jaw will hit the floor. Her speed and accuracy is stunning. She was at 17 one of the top guitarists in the world ... bar none.
Lisa X and hundreds of others have done it at 8 years old CK her out. She got Paul Gilberts attention and he invited her over to jam so at that age she's jamming with the best at this type of stuff. Still not for me. I find it boring. Like Yngwie after 3 minutes boring gotta walk out JMO
he`s a phucking thief ... stolen videos 🖕 👎🖕 👎🖕 👎
just wow!
Prodigy
She's amazing.
And for those that have complained about her lack of facial expressions; one, her facial expressions are very subtle, she even has little smiles at different times. Two, she's not Angus flipping Young! And three, it's her ability, talent, and hardwork that's on display.
One thing that baffles me are the comments about her lack of facial expression. I'm sorry, but I love it. She shows such intensity and focus to me that I am moved to want to get better and play more like her. Who are these people? I would smite them like gnats with a giant thunder bolt if I could. Go away maestros, and go look in your mirror when you are playing this piece at that level.
The people who say that need to watch the original video all the way through to the end. It's only a few frames, less than a second at the end but as the piece ends and she returns to earth from so "deep in the zone" you see the huge, natural, 17-year-old smile start to appear. It's the same with any instrument or with vocals. During the performance of something so demanding you often seem to "go blank" because there is *nothing* but the music. The rest of the world doesn't exist. It's when it ends that the rush hits....
There has been research done showing that the way a performer physically behaves influences how they are perceived as much as what they actually play.
But maybe that is irrelevant here.
There are two things going on.
1) lack of physical reaction to what she is playing.
2) lack of emotion in the music itself.
3) I said two things, so this point is possibly just too much wine due to lock down.
What was the question again?
Totally agreed. It's pure focus.
I am a math teacher. Some of my collegues sometimes say, I look "evil" in my face not showing emotions when walking by them. I say.. BS, I am just focused on thinking about something.
@@pythagorasaurusrex9853 Lang Lang isn't focused at all, then?
She makes me wanna PUKE
People complaining about no expressions on Tina...are you crazy!!!? Every single brain cell & billions of synapses are just trying to keep up with her finger action. You go young lady!
it isn't just facial expressions all her music is very mechanical and blank.
@@MrAtrophy
Agreed, it's very well practised but with no feel. Pure sign of autistic savant and/or OCD, like all those young Asian "genius" pianists. I've observed Tina's maturation over the years. Some years ago she was totally anti-social, with the same mechanical obsession on the fretboard. Gradually, from all the accolades and Facebook support, she's become a a little more sociable (when not playing) -- very similar to Angelina Jordan. Sigh ... many people are so often impressed with virtuosic fireworks they can't discriminate feel from technique.
@@MrAtrophy Watch her Megadeth cover, for Tina it's intense lol
Not complaining just noting and understand completely often by the time I've got something to the point I'm happy with it and I'm not this proficient, it's hard to get the emotion it becomes a technical exercise,
But music is first and fore most an emotional art form so in a way I find these at odds , this shows often in the studio where first try at a solo are often the best , less clinical sounding , and besides who doesn,t like a good guitar face ,
@divorcedme
No my friend, I'm not claiming to be a "better" guitar player than TinaS, just adding my 2 cent's worth of information and opinion relevant to the OPs statement re facial expressions. If you look about the world you will notice this common thread, that musicians of many kinds make varying facial expressions dependent upon the nervous processes in their brain (mind), some of which reveal concentration or relaxation, stressful contortions or blissful peace, etc, and some are just plain blank. Let me ask you -- how can some "genius" musician, at the cutting edge of virtuosity, NOT make expressive indications of their extreme nervous processes? Every high level player does it to some extent. But observe the behaviours and expressions of those with autism spectrum and you will notice the similarities of "not being there" emotionally. TinaS sometimes chews gum while playing. Do you know why? It is a device to stop teeth grinding, coming from an extremely tense jaw (ie unconscious brain sectors), unable to be relaxed by will power. Just saying. Along with the mechanistic feel of her playing commented by many other guitarists not overly "amazed" by her fast fingerwork, it's all just part of the syndrome. Like it or leave it according to taste; understand it better or just live with a misunderstanding. Not my business.
I don't even play guitar and she makes me want to quit it
Johan Liebert 😄
dont quit, the guitar makers will go out of business :)) seriously do NOT quit ! if LvB could do it so can everybody else, except django reinhard, he'd probably do it better.YOU CAN DO IT. seriously awaiting a youtube video ;
@@hansti1 lol ok even tho I don't play
I already did lol ! I bought a Les Paul and it's been in my cupboard for 3 years
Johan May the covid-19 demon MISS YOU ENTIRELY ! Ya made me laugh out loud !
She is in college, she stopped to go to school. She started to play when she was 4 years old. I'm just hoping she comes back.
People are saying she has no emotion. That is called concentration! It's like a game of chess. She's thinking miles ahead in the tune of any normal person. Keep on Rocking Tina S.
I looked a some videos of her at 4 or 5 years old playing classical guitar, she had that same expression, she was awesome, even at such a young age! Her expression is called concentration, and being totally in the moment! This is what total genius looks like! Amazing!
The f is wrong with them? What she is doing isnt easy whatsoever. They expect her to laugh while playing too? Of course she has to be in her A game
exactly, what game is more emotional ? chess or nba ?
and she is sped up a bit ;)
You gotta look at the through the fire and flames Video if you wanna See her smile :)
With the Steve Vai cover she shows more expression. For me it's always there, in her playing..
I'm a pro guitarist. I'm 56 and been playing since I was 10. I REALLY sold out to play guitar by the time I was 12. I can tell you that in my teen years guitar was almost a religion for me. I worked SO HARD to get to where I got. I can tell you from a technical standpoint I didn't even get close to this. At my best I was able to play most of the EVH stuff. Kids, understand - To get as good as Tina is from a technical standpoint, you can't have any "life." Guitar must become your "life." People like this tend to make it look easy. The beginner may watch this and think, "wow. I'd like to do that." Understand it will take most of your waking hours to get this good. You'll have time to eat, shower, and take care of bodily functions. Video gaming? Forget it. Social media? No way. Binge watching Neflix or really any other form of entertainment? Nope. Guitar has to become all of those things or you will NOT get this good.
Amen! I say to people they can play like this. But they will never have the available time to play like this! People don't realise it's literally a way of life. Jason Beckers mum said he never let go of his guitar, even at dinner he'd bring it to the table. It is literally spending every spare moment on the fretboard. I sacrifice some practise time for answering comments, but I can live with that! 😂👍
JdNtBrLrTi i have to disagree on that one, I'm at my 2nd year of playing and I can play like her, and I haven't been totally taken over by it, you don't have to give up all entertainment to get this good.
@@isaiahorta6049 can you post a video? no hate, just curious
@@MrFlyingPanda l second that.
@@isaiahorta6049why don't you post a video of you playing like her?
Who , the hell, would dare put a Thumb Down on such a play. The girl is pure Extra Terrestrial performance. Most 20yrs olds can barely even count to 100, let alone speak a language adequately. She plays guitar like we take a walk. Way to go Tina. I admire you. 1000 Thumbs UP from me. Your music and play are inspiring.
i agree with you 100 percent
E.T is the word, lets kill here, the americans do....
only a reflection of tonio k
@@hansti1 At least we Americans tend to be fluent with the English language, just as we _try_ to become fluent in a foreign language before we dare to converse in it. What's _your_ excuse?
And no, we will _not_ be killing any ETs, nor will we be killing Tina S. On the contrary, if I owned a string of nightclubs with stages for live music, I'd be offering her a contract right about now! With her guitar mastery, she'd bring in the crowds and pack my establishments with paying customers every night, no doubt!
@@BloodyBay kinda sounded like tonio k. we're americans we love everyone?(check it out: one big(happy) family :))
She's my favorite guitarist. I love how she plays everything completely effortlessly. I wish she'd come back.
She’s back. Spin Twice is her band I believe.
@@Heidi.M Yeah, Heidi I hope she rips off some solo work there. She needs to be out on her own like Gary was and Steve Vai still is. but they stand up and walk around she didn't. but with this band she is standing up but her play hasta be suffering. I mean you can't do the stuff she was doing back then walking around and jumping all over the place. I mean that Beetoveen thing absolutely blew me away!
I following her for a while. She's in lack of nothing. She's a living legend.
Being able to play a piece flawlessly is all practice and ability. I would like to see her free jazz or blues playing and what she can come up with off the cuff. Often two very different skills. Many people can play flawless compositions but cant open jam to save their life
She's beautiful and insanely talented, a perfect target for trolls.
She has a work ethic that trolls are unfamiliar with.
can we just be real, she lacks emotions. One can point this truth out and not be a troll, or hater. Reality is how it is and even tho shes insanely good when it comes to mechanical play - she still lacks the emotions when shes playing. Yes i play guitar myself, yes not even close as good as her and probably i never will cause i dont play that much. I can still just point this out and not be a total asshole. Get real man.
Such a sad fucking culture of dismal jerks tearing down good talented people.
@@TheBlackfall234 She lacks emotion? How the fuck do you know that? I'd love to see you make that criticism to her face and how stupid that would make you look. May I suggest John Tess at Red Rock? You'll absolutely love it. Just full of sappy emotion.
I can guarantee you that she has no life. It would be nothing but practice all day.
Absolutely amazing. I've been playing piano since I was 5 (yo) - (I'm in my 70's now) and I've played this piece (all three movements of "The Moonlight") on Piano - and MAN it is difficult. IT TAKES HOURS AND HOURS OF PRACTICE I needed to practice this piece (3rd movement) for 2 years before I could know it well enough to play it even adequately. NOW - to play this piece on an instrument like a guitar is just mind blowing! I just love those little slides, bends (is that the right terminology - I don't play guitar) pull-offs - which, of course you can't do on a piano. I'm sure Beethoven would have absolutely loved this interpretation.
Thank you. Makes me feel less of a complete musical idiot for struggling to memorize a simple melody (Bach 875)
Thankyou for your additional understanding & comments.
Talent is both natural & practiced.
I've been a "musician of sorts" for 3 decades & I love all types of music...& can "get by" on most stuff.
I have a son who's 9 now.
I gave him a ukulele, bongos & a "light-up" keyboard (so my expensive finer instruments in my studio would remain safe, LOL) & showed him my choppy renditions of works of masters...& how they should sound when done properly.
My wife & I took notice in total shock one afternoon 3 MONTHS LATER when he had learned the complete Mozart Turkish March BETTER than I could ever do...without assistance😳
I've shown him drum, bongos, guitar, bass & ukulele tricks...& he's really getting good...VERY QUICKLY.
I'm a jack-of-all-trades/master-of-none.
My wife & I are getting him lessons on piano.
He's going to really go places...if he wants to.
I'm hoping to find some piano works from you here on TH-cam.
Nice to make your acquaintance via TH-cam👍
@@maestroaxeman way to go Tommy and wife, keep giving him instruments and lessons and encouraging words, to give someone the chance to make music is a life long gift, one that will open many doors along life's journey, a gift he will thank you for long after your gone, my parents did it for my 2 brothers and I and we had some rock n party's around the piano that pops put in his basement bar, many many fun times , I'm 70yr old now, and miss those times dearly, but what great memories, thanks mom and dad......
i called the fake ludwig rude, now i can call him rude names tnx to you, love you dude :))
I wish I could somehow learn to read music. Now 65
My lord........couldn't help but giving her a standing ovation half-way through......in my living room......lol. Sheer brilliance.
BEST GUITARIST I EVER HEARD AND I'M 76 YEARS OLD
Check out mike stern, jimmy herring,
This is simple....this girl is phenomenal..
Go Tina.....🎸🙏🇬🇧
Just for fun, I took the time to go through the video and count how many notes Tina hits on the way through this piece. She plays for 5 minutes and 58.72 seconds and hits 2540 notes for an average of 7.08 notes per second for the whole piece. That is astounding!! I miss Tina and hope she comes back to TH-cam soon or, better yet, goes on tour. I'd like to think she might tour with the Trans-Siberia Orchestra one day. I think she would fit in with that group like a glove. So freaking talented and a pure technician with the guitar.
7.08 notes per second??? It is hard to comprehend that speed. The best test to take for anyone whether a guitar player or flute player, is to put all your fingers on a flat surface and start to tap them in any order you choose. Watch a timer and get to the point where you are tapping at 7 taps per second Now, here is the trick, continue that tapping at 7 per second for the next 5 minutes without a glitch.
It's actually not too difficult to comprehend, as on the guitar it's possible to tap 6 or 7 notes onto the fretboard with tapping. Although it's much more common to see 5 to 6 fingers being used as Tina does here. As soon as you fret the notes you'll have 6 in rapid succession, if you remove them again in sequence, that's 12 notes, which will all happen in a fraction of a second. For a better appreciation, just tap your nails onto a hard surface in sequence, like you're waiting for something, then imagine every time you lift your finger from the surface you'd get another note. You'll soon be able to imagine the speed going on 🙂
@@jeffreyburley4033 The really scary thing is, she sometimes is only hitting 1 or 2 notes per second which means at times she is going far more quickly without missing a note. The best news is she's back with a band called Spin Twice. I cannot wait until they tour in my neck of the woods.
@@wingsofpegasus I appreciate your taking the time to educate me very much; it is incredibly kind of you. I've tried a number times in my life to play a few instruments including guitar, bass, piano, flute and, one time (literally), clarinet (I blew a correct note the very first try - LOL). Anyway, I never put in the time or effort to become proficient; however, I appreciate great music in all its forms. I enjoy videos like yours because they give me insights into how music is put together and formed through rules and methods I didn't know existed. I think if I had been introduced to these things at an earlier age, I may have found a bit more success. It doesn't mean I couldn't do it now as I recently learned how to draw but I did it every single day for 2 years to get to my current level which is pretty good as I can draw photo-realistic portraits if I take the time (usually 4-8 hours). I'm happy with that but would like to apply it to something musical. We'll see in the next year.
Thanks again for taking your very important time to provide me with new knowledge. I am a fierce supporter of Tina S. and hope to see her on tour with her new band if they visit Canada. Cheers and all the best.
I played Classical Piano back 30 years ago and it took me 8 hours a day straight to learn Moonlight Sonata 1st, 2nd & 3rd movement. It took 30 days just to play the 1st movement by memory without a mistake. The next 2 movements took up towards 4 plus months each. To see it today on the electric guitar is amazing, done to perfection also. She is a miracle person.
Je partage votre opinion. Elle est une personne magique, divine .
She was a child prodigy and has studied with masters to apply electric guitar techniques to clasical music on guitar.
She's modest, never wears anything revealing like most of the ladies in YT to "catch" likes, subs ..she's all talent nothing else.
She makes all the guy's jelly, she's amazing!!
Like the few technically great guitarists, when she is playing you are not looking at her face… or her legs etc; you are mesmerized by her hands, and your eyes are probably closed anyway so YOU can concentrate on what what you are hearing.
My brain can barely process what I'm hearing let alone seeing. I can't do both. Phenomenal doesn't even describe this.
I’ve been at it for 50+ years and am nowhere near this level. This is the upper limit of what is technically possible on the guitar. Absolutely incredible technique.
No, it's not. I love her playing but what say- John Williams does is far more difficult. Perhaps almost infinitely more difficult. And as a classically trained guitarist (which is why Tina, in this video only that I know of, is playing the guitar on her left leg not her right) would be the first to acknowledge this.
I'm soon 65yrs of age, played since I was 9yrs old. Started with Chet Atkins finger style, some hard fast Yngwie stuff about 10 years ago. But after first hearing Tina S and seeing how focused she is really gives
you an appreciation of her talents. I used to practice 9-12 hours a day, never learned to read music. She is the one that the very best musicians stand in awe of. What Michael Jackson is to pop music, Connie Talbot to Britain's got Talent, Tina is to Guitarists. Wow Thanks for posting this great video.She has been my guitar hero, not just for her skills, but her humbleness.
First time I've seen/heard of Tina S. How have I never? This is amazing.
Phil, I've spent the last 4 hours or so listening to this amazing talent. Her birthday is this coming Tuesday, April 7, 2020 and she'll be 21 yrs. old. Still not sure what she is doing at the moment. It is obvious from all the 'Followers' that there is a huge fan base waiting for her return. I enjoyed your comments and your technical eye. We all learn more too! There is an abundance of humor within the hundreds of comments that is also a real joy. Most it coming from real musicians who have 'watched their own guitars 'pack up and leave them in the dead of night' because they too want to be played and stroked with the same passionate abilities as Tina S. Take care. Stay Safe.
She went on a hiatus while she's studying. Unfortunately she had to deal with a lot of trolls thanks to being a known figure, a young girl and looking attractive so she pulled the plug and focused on her studies instead.
Big deal...I could do this! If I had 13 fingers, 1,000 years to practice and um, yeah, I can't do this.😳
😂😂😂
I have been playing and practicing guitar for nearly 45 years. The best I can do is play a 64th note. That's 16 individual notes each second. Unfortunately, I can only play one of them. Just one. This girl plays her heart out. I"m impressed.
dude,wats ur damage.u pissed a girl kicked ur ass on guitar?
You're being too hard on yourself... 12 fingers will do just fine.
lol, great comment.
the comments on her cover of ''through the fire and flames'' were awful. i can understand why she stopped posting. people are awful on internet, between the video being sped up or having multiple takes edited together, and of course, those complaining she has no expression on her face, makes you wanna punch the fucking screen. always complaining, people can't just appreciate what some others can do. this is sad.
Yeah it's just jealousy.
@@wingsofpegasus exactly, and it's really unfortunate. i am all for constructive criticism, but being mean is just pointless
There are always annoying comments, but she seems to get it WAY worse then normal, and I have no idea why. Is it she is more talented then average, so she attracts more bad comments? I do not know.
She is slayinnng it!
What?!?!
People demanding facial expressions as a prove for feeling is stupid. Shes just a kid and is prob not confortable with a camera...
Can you imagine going to a high school talent show and hearing that?!😳🤯
If you were on next, you would probably not bother
Can you imagine her walking into a guitar shop and looking around?
She has the whole piece memorized so well that she doesn’t have to look at the frets as she plays... Bravo Maestro!!!!
I have been a fan of this young lady for several years. I've probably watched most of her videos several times over. I enjoyed the split screen with her matching Malmsteen. She is in my opinion better. She is all business when she plays. One video she made shows a quick smile just before melting her guitar. Her abilities and perfection have brought tears to my eyes. She plays with such skill and concentration having totally mastered nearly every technique known. She is just simply a joy to watch and there is none better. There will always be those who criticize. But there will always be those of us who will always love her for the enjoyment she has brought us. By the way I'm 75 and still pickin.
Cool!
Marcus Aurelius
: Awesome dude!
In fairness, Malmsteen wrote “Arpeggios From Hell” while Tina covered it. I don’t know if it’s possible to play more technically efficient than Tina, but you could say the same for Yngwie. On top of that, Rising Force was written, recorded and released by the time Yngwie was Tina’s age. So, yeah. Malmsteen is a monolith.
Marcus Aurelius Well put 👍🏻 I have also been a fan and I have to say I have never heard such a young person play with such greatness in my whole life.
+Marcus Aurelius "a quick smile before melting her guitar" Now....... imagine a perminate smaile on her face as the guitar melts HER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now..... technically....... a lot of people try their whole life to get what she has "technically" and never even gets close to the technical skill she has. When she ever learns to let the guitar play HER and the moment the guitar melts HER! Her skill will tripple from that moment forward.
There is only 1 person that can litterally just stand their with their guitar and a microphone and hold a whole stadium hostage........ that would be George Strait.... The guy has more #1's than ANYONE from ANY gnre....... Elvis the king?????? ok..... if you insist....... George is midas cus if he touches it, its instant GOLD and king can gold not buy :) lol.
She was born to be a legendary guitarist.
Normally I'd agree 100% however, her uploads cover a time period from when she first started lessons at age 6 so I wouldn't sider her (obvious) talent a birth right or call her a savant, sh'es worked very hard, long hours to be this good, and clearly...it's paid off!
She was trained to become a legendary guitarist.
Tina Is the best guitarist in the world, The end💕
Great technical skill i appreciate her enormous skill but not really the sounds or music i want to hear. No such thing as best guitarist depends on individual taste
the dooo
Thousands and thousands of TH-cam commenters who are blessed with the gift of absolute unblemished certainty.
Tina and Marcin Patrzalek are among my top 10 greatest guitarists. Probably 7 and 8 (only because they've decades to move up).
...Guthrie Govan...
I see the stretch of her hand as well as the strength-it that makes sense…unbelievable. I wouldn’t believe it if I didn’t see this video analysis. Thanks @WingsofPegasus Rock!
As I scrolled down through the comments and read that this young lady had been criticized it quite saddened me. She is an exceptionally tallented young lady. I love that " game face " as I call it. She's just so totally into her craft and loving it. It's a joy to behold! All the hours of practice have paid off and I hope she continues. I think Beethoven would have loved her! She's marvelous!
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Anyone criticizing her talent deserves to be slapped silly. There's always some slimeball waiting in the wings ready to tear down someone's amazing talents. Jealous?? Apply yourselves and put in the work like she obviously did, lazy stupid cunts.
jelous assholes always belittle people that are better than they r.so yeah...some dumbasses talk shit about her.I hate those stupid pricks
@@rickleblanc8900 yup I am not jealous and love this young gorgeous French guitar virtuoso lady. My dream girlfriend/future wife would play guitar or bass and we could have a band together.
@@larrysmithart7241 yup I get dumbies constantly insulting my videos and playing but I never claim to be a guitar virtuoso lol.
I have mastered facial expressions. Now got to learn how to play the guitar.
Paul Christian she has a perfect poker face.
That's funny
Check expressions of "veena srivani" while she plays her instrument. You will like it.
Paul Christian , me, too...😁
Paul Christian 😄
I've never heard of her before. She's amazing!! Thanks Fil!! ROCK!!
Whenever I watch this performance, I am overcome by the beauty, the relentless force, and the soul on display, and the tears flow. I enjoyed your analysis and commentary, Pegasus, but it was also a blast to watch you watch a master
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If she was a doctor...….She'd cure cancer...……….She's beyond incredible. Beyond Talent. Amazing...…….
and cure covid
This girl is wonderful
People explain it away as her being"talented"
No shit Sherlock, but it's so much more than that
It's the hours upon hours of ceaseless dedication that is required to do what she's pulling off here, it's staggering
It's a 24/7 dedication to the craft.
Awesome job!
I can only imagine what the future holds for this young woman
The sky's the limit ❤️
To quote Connor McGregor when he was at the top opf the MMA game... "This is an obsession. Talent does not exist, we are all equals as human beings. You could be anyone if you put in the time. You will reach the top, and that's that. I am not talented, I am obsessed."
I was introduced to her through this video. She is amazing! Thankful for such thoughtful analysis in all your videos. I love learning about the techniques and artist history. Your analysis are the best! Please keep them coming.
Good job breaking this down most people that have never Played just don't understand how tough this is she's a master.
I can't tell you how many times I've watched this video and others of hers . But , every time I do I am just awestruck . She is obviously talented and that look is one of pure dedication . No one should doubt that she has put in HUGE amounts of time practicing and has earned every level of success she has achieved . This skill wasn't given , she earned every bit of it . PK
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There's a little bit of both involved, Genetic ( god given?) skill and years of hard work.
While this degree of technicality requires thousands of hours of learning, it also takes raw talent. As you can see in the comments from experience guitarists, they've been playing their entire life and have come to the realization that they'll never be able like Tina S. That doesn't detract from their expertise, it just means that they can't play like Tina. She has a gift, and she capitalized upon it. Everyone can run and get into shape, but only the truly gifted can become a top athlete. Genetics ensures that everyone is not equal in specific ways. Not everyone can become a virtuoso.
Precisely.
Perfectly stated. I'm definitely a talented classical guitarist. But it would take 3 more lifetimes for me to be able to play at the level she does in 17 short years of life. She inspires me, she enfuriates me, she delights me, she makes me want to smash all of my guitars and light a bonfire. Lol
@@oggamerpalmspringsca7844 I agree completely. It terrifies me that today's generation (and as an Oakland, CA cop friend said, millennial is a state of mind and ranges ages 6-86!) says "if I worked that hard I could be that good." No, you could not. Then, think of classical pianists like Valentina Lisitsa. Her parents thought she was at musical academy; she often wasn't because it took her 3 days to learn a piece that took other students 3 weeks to 3 months...there are levels.
You can't polish a turd, as John Lennon said. While you can (auto-tune) his point is well taken. One could practice nine hours a day and without musical talent, you'll never, EVER be able to perform like Tina - nor should you try!
@@Allan-et5ig too right! I've had noisy arguments with non musicians who insist proficiency is merely a question of dedication and time. I'm glad that's not true, for obvious reasons. I've tried to explain that without the innate spark of talent and aptitude, one could spend (waste) a lifetime to reach levels of mediocrity at very best. Then I'm told I'm an elitist snob, and dismissed as one would a garden variety asshole. Without even a rudimentary understanding of the way music works, (the talent piece), the likelihood of becoming adept would have the same lack of success as if you were to try and explain what "green" is to a blind man. Impossible. There's no frame of reference to draw upon. So while I'm perturbed by the "thumbs down" and the outrageously stupid comments that accompany them, I understand why these brat babies feel compelled to post them.
@@oggamerpalmspringsca7844 You were shabbily treated without cause. One of my medical doctors drove swiftly to his son's high school to ask why the son got a commendation for finishing 6 out of 8 and a fancy medal, in a swim meet. (The Dad didn't bitch out the boy who tried his best, fyi...that wasn't his concern.)
The sheepish swim team coach said (hope you're sitting down) "everyone that participates is an equal winner whether they are first or last." So the Dad qualified and said "while I don't agree, you mean, trying is everything right?" Coach replied NO, I MEAN sixth-place is as good as first."
The Dad is from Russia and was in his twenties when cronyism had taken over in the old Soviet Union. He said this kind of thinking was frighteningly familiar.
A bit far afield from the creeps who called you elitist - but not a million miles away.
Best, Allan
Revised all your Old Videos here and Still loving it. Here ever since 5k and can't get enough of it. Great video FIL.. God Bless
Tina is basically the Messi of guitar. I'm not even kidding.
I absolutely LOVE metalesque renditions of classical music pieces, especially Bach and Beethoven. If you scratch the surface and look deeper, much of metal and prog rock is deeply rooted in the western European music tradition of the past ten centuries.
Classical music was the heavy metal of it's day.
You can hear Queen riffs all through this playing...and other chord lifts by others as well.
Lmao Queen?? Lmfao gtfo
One of the greats to ever play I don't care what any one has to say. Perfect playing and unbelievable
Hello. Tina is French and she was 17 years old on this video. She started the guitar at 6 years old. This guitar is an Excalibur from the French luthier Vigier. Cordially.
Instantly shocked and amazed !! Immediately fell in love with her talent Thank You Fil for this beautiful gift !!
429 losers that are jealous that they can’t remotely approach playing like her, or be capable of providing Phil’s wonderful commentary.
430....sounds like noise
@@VLove-CFII loveless lifeless brainless it is noise you don't hear anything that isn't noise brainiac
nah, emotionless noise. technically impressive, no soul.
Richard McEllan robotic
@@VLove-CFII alright let's see you do it.
She is a Goddess, I have been watching her videos for a few years now and every time I see her ,the tears start trickling down my face. What a wonderful young woman!
A true prodigy... A phenom.
I was a musician in high school, playing the trumpet. I can also play guitar but just enough to do chording. But when I watch a person like this perform, even having experience playing a musical instrument, I simply cannot comprehend someone with this type of ability. I'm sure there may be a few others in the world that can get to this level of achievement but I'm thinking those odds are one in a billion. With about 8 billion people in the world, that means there might be 7 others that can do what she does, especially on a guitar. Very thought-out and informative review. Thanks.
FIL, when I first saw the thumbnail I was taken by the lines of her positions of her legs, the body of the guitar and the neck. As though taking all of nuances of location out of the setup to focus on the physical playing, and then you started the video, Pow! Amazing!
First time hearing her, definitely not the last! Thank you very much!
She is the female version of Yngwie Malmsteen. She's magnificent.
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My thoughts exactly! Has same sound.
Aww, don't be so mean!
@Danny Bowen You know what's sad? Gender identity bullshit has become so overblown, that idk anymore if someone is genuine about it or joking about it, but I assume.. joking? I hope :D
Pardon me for what I am about to say, but Malmsteen is lightyears behind this girl. He's just fast tremolo picking and a few tapping here and there. This girl seems to be a more complete guitarist. Regards.
Believe it or not, it has come to my attention that she is such a prodigy that she does not to need to practice as much as you assume -- not two years, not two months; less. Her age has nothing to do with it. No one on the planet can play as well as she can. Absolutely no one. Everything she does with the guitar is super human. Bravo, Tina!
It wouldn't surprise me if the reason she hasn't posted since 2016 is that she's burned out. She's truly amazing.
What else could she do on guitar now? She went to college, studied law, and rumour has it, opened a music publishing business.
She started getting hate mail calling her a fake etc. I heard that she went to college and has since recently returned to play more music and videos! I also read that it took her 3 months to get this down pat and it was done in one take.
Damn girl Ludwig himself is about to come out of the grave to high five you!
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Love this comment. One of my 1st impressions while watching this was thinking to myself "The western Masters were metal as f***". Beethoven, Bach and Mozart baby. Their music was transcendent. They were products of their generations but they would do just fine in this generation. I would love to have seen what JSB could have done with modern instrumentation.
@@chrislawrence328 just the reverse.
She's one with the guitar. Her fingers are epic. She plays it cool like Knopfler, the expression is in the music not the face.
Thanks for sharing this! I confess I have never heard of this highly gifted musician before and I am very grateful for learning about her. I will seek out her performances and recordings.
I lost track how often I listened to this piece now.
Even if she sticks to the tracks she uploaded already, it's wonderful she shared them.
Just keep in mind - composers used an orchestra to transport the emotion of this pieces.
It's litteraly possible to feel Beethoven in this take. Wonderful.
Tina S is stunning.
My father was a classical pianist. I remember him playing this piece. At age 4 (in a non musical family), he could play hymns from church with both hands on the keyboard. However he had no family support necessary to reach professional standard. To them it was little more than a party trick.
After WW2 In his late 20s he moved back home & took extended time off work to practice. There is a story that during winter 1947 his mum brought him a mug of tea. When he got around to picking it up it was frozen solid.
His top local music teacher told him he could not teach him anything. He won a scholarship to Britain’s top music university but he did do have the money to support himself.
He never became a professional musician.
Sad - of course. Unusual? Absolutely not. You need talent of course but also the right circumstances, finances and a huge amount of luck.
That's what I call: a cool story bro.
I don’t care if it’s real or not; I cried
I don't understand why videos like this get thumbs down? Cheers!
It's called jealousy....Period!
@@Stratster68 I agree, I'm a basement drummer and I come here to learn a thing or two. cheers
Called assholes
She's incredible and your analysis is top notch!
Once again Phil, Great Job on the analysis of such a phenomenon, Tina. My 1st view of her and I couldn't believe my eyes and ears, the video couldn't even keep up!!! Thank-you!
I'm amazed by 2 things here. One is the skill and ability this girl has. Few play like this even with tons of practice, she has natural talent underneath all of the training and should be recognized for that...I hope she continues because she has the gift. Two, what is there to be negative about here? In fact why comment negative on anybody? She's an excellent guitar player doing things few can. If it's not your thing then leave it at that. People bashing others on the internet only make very plain their own inadequacies. Thanks Fil for putting this out there and for your thoughtful take on her skill and level of expertise, as well as, reminding people that you don't get to this level of excellence without putting in the time.
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"background clocks or it didn't happen" Who is criticizing her? For what exactly? Jealousy is ugly.
Yeah as a player you can see she's got this down, otherwise what is the point in the elastic band keeping the strings quiet on the 1st fret! 🤘
I am a fan but even I think this video is at 1,25...
This girl is among the top 1% of guitar players in the world. I can't imagine too many people being able to come close to her. Wow!!!!
She is in the top 1% of the top 1% lol
The facial expression I see is confidence, zen breathing and a ability to stay relaxed, aka ..skill and has it in spades..blockheads who want her twitching and grimacing should know she's not a stage performer..yet..all I know is ..WOW
LOL not a single person here making negative comments is even close to her
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...neither are any of us who leave positive comments!
I loved her channel. Very talented. Kudos for giving her a spotlight!
No problem!
Such ability! My mom was an Oxford Piano grad who could play several different instruments. She taught as well and she tried to get me to practice every day, but I wanted to roam the fields and farm with my grandparents. Now I wish I had practiced! Stay with it while young. Like Fil said, that's when we have the time, not after we have a job, mortgage and family.
So happy to stumble upon your channel and see your critique of Miss Tina. I agree with everything you mention about her, especially regarding how much time it must take to achieve this level of proficiency. My only regret is that it’s been over 3 years since her last video, and she’s released nothing since she turned 18. I’m afraid that we may have seen the last of this wonderful young musician. I hope to be proven wrong, but I’m guessing she’s moved on to another endeavor. At least we have a small catalog upon which to draw and contemplate “what may have been.” Cheers!
I'm 53, been playing since I was like 10 or 12, and I have never seen anything like this, it really is amazing.
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I've always like the the quote "A good musician practices until he gets it right. A great musician practices until he can't get it wrong." She's obviously the latter. I don't see how she picks that fast, much less how she fingers the strings so fast. And she'll just keep getting better. I would like to hear her play it with the guitar not so dirty, just to make more notes come through better.
Picking that fast isn't so much the trick, it's picking that fast from the wrist that's... I can't... I think I'm developing carpal tunnel syndrome just imagining attempting it myself.
I know how hard pieces like this are to learn, you literally have to learn them one bar at a time and gradually bring it all up to speed and then you need to get to the point where you can play it all in one take with no show stopping errors.
This guy understands just how much work this takes so I respect his opinions here
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@@wingsofpegasus you're very welcome!
She has put hours, days, months, years into this... so to say no emotion is not going in is complete b.s..
I totally agree, and to refer to her as looking like someone with Autism/OCD like 'The Dolphin' commented, is disgusting. I have children with autism who are very expressive in their facial expressions, especially whilsr playing their guitars. This young lady is amazing, no one could claim otherwise in my opinion. I guess there aew some jealous people out there who wish they had a fraction of Tina's talent.
Affected grimacing is overrated! Skill comes first.
Well explained Fil.. and to be honest.. I’m about 4 yrs out from attempting this.. maybe 3 😉 but I understand your breakdowns. Very inspiring and unique what you do.. Yes! Many on TH-cam watch videos and share their opinions and it’s cool, but no one I’ve seen does it at your level and finesse.. much appreciated 🤘🏼
pso ☮️💯🎸🤘🏼👊🏻 Just a rare real human being in this crazy world we live in .. I lost my 23 year old son in a car accident in July.. Started following and appreciating Wings of Pegasus back then .. means more than can be explained.. A simple like ✊🏼 goes a long way.. The music is my Healing - Gary Clark Jr . ☮️💟✊🏼
Thanks Steve!
Agreed.
Yeah, Fil's analysis game is tight.
@@stevetrivago Sincere condolences friend ! I lost my beloved wife last year - I truly know how raw your grief must be - but remember - life is eternal xxx
Love reading the comments from experienced musicians appreciating her talent! Thanks Fil for pointing out her talents and techniques!😍
Your passion for music, and for sharing it, is obvious. Thanks for putting in the time!
No problem!🙂
I love the fact that you pointed out the time it takes. Most people that don't play have no idea. I find I can learn things but don't have the time to really nail it down. With work kids and life in general. Thank you for sharing. And she is truly amazing.
At seventeen, her mastering of the sound, her tecnic, and her timing is simply AMAZING !!!!!
She’s the real deal. No cutaways! WOW
You have opened my eyes, and ears, to performers and performances that I haven’t been exposed to before. Thank you, you are enlarging my world and life.
Tina is a goddess!1 I hope she returns! She has an outstanding talent!
She is quite amazing. And nicely spotted the classical guitar position - always jumps out when you see that.
Thanks for underlining how much PRACTICE this takes..... I think many people simply don't realise what goes into something like this.
Piano-wise, I think I could still play the first movement by heart, the second with the sheet and could never play the third properly.
Jesus, xxx hours a day for 8 years doing set pieces, arpeggios, scales, contra chromatics and I still couldn't play the efffin thing on the instrument it was written for.
And Tina just goes and does it on the guitar. No eyelids batted.
Hats off.
Very late in making comments here. Watched Tina's vids now and again , can't help coming back to them. Anyone making negative comments about this astoundingly talented and very pretty young woman needs a good slap. I've played guitar since my teens and in bands for years ( not that well I'll admit but admire good guitarists ) Through my younger years ( Late 60's and beyond ) favoured Blues and Rock ( not the heavy stuff ). Clapton and Gary Moore being my favoured players , I don't listen to or rate " shreaders " thats not playing guitar in my book , just a load of speed notes , a mess. Now this little piece is damn fast and you could compare to shreading but remember this is a classical piece and bloody difficult , not composed for guitar. She covered " The Loner " showing another side of her styles and am certain she could out " Blues " any blues guitarist out there if she wanted. Think I've watched vids on all guitarists and think Tina is probably top of the pile in my book for ability , forget the comments on emotion , guitar is played with the hands not the face.
It doesn’t matter how many times I watch her play this, I am always in complete awe. That a human being could be this talented at anything is simply magical.
Wow. I'm glad you interrupted. I needed it to take a breath, or I might have suffocated from forgetting to inhale.
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Make no mistake about it. This girl would have NO LIFE!!. Guitar all day every day. That's all she would do. To get this proficient the focus has to be intense. Virtuoso? No. Absurd practice? Yes.
Golly! I've never heard of her and was surfing TH-cam and I gotta say...she's the best guitarist I've ever heard. I'm 49 years old and her tone and skills are absolutely perfect! Then you throw in speed and Technic and she's untouchable. I'm happy I went surfing today.
She's incredible and that is an understatement. You very well could be seeing one of the all time greatest guitar players ever,and She's only going to get better
Fil my favorite TH-camr!!!
I'm a year late to the party, but I made it. (whew)
I had just watched her video as it just showed up in my recommended, and right below there you wait to enlighten me further. 👍
My Mother, now 92 is/was a classical pianist, I grew up with so much exposure to many great works. When I saw the piece this artist had listed on this particular video; I thought, oh? This young lady blew me away, it's kinda late here in the states but I'll share it with Mom in the morning.
And once again I truly get a kick out of the shear joy you get watching & listening to these phenomenally talented musicians.
Thank you brother, I hope all is well across the pond. ✌
Tina is a legend on TH-cam. Sadly she doesn’t put out videos any more. I hope she is well and still playing.
I’ve followed Tina and her brother from the start on all social media’s and I must say I miss her. She’s one of a kind, but I totally respect her decision to do what she enjoys and like right now.
Everyone who has ever watched her play, must be hoping that she'll soon return. It probably wont be in the cover mode, but with her own stuff, as you suggested. She is simply too amazing to remain hidden. And to those who accuse her of lacking facial expression; try doing close to what she does without having powers of concentration that few could equal.
I am absolutely mesmerized by the fingers of her left hand. Spellbinding.
I've learned from personal experience that those who A. Believe Jimi Hendrix is the best guitar player ever (I'm not saying anything negative about him) and B. Spend their time hating on guitarists that are obviously incredible, either don't play guitar or are really bad at it.
@mark totton So it would appear that you're one of those people. Hahaha.
@mark totton So then you're just a hater? Hmm...
mark totton I wouldnt give him the time of day. Any actual guitar players criticism will be taken as a hater/troll. So many people cant seem to handle criticism with her playing. Sad cause she is ok but there is a ton of her videos that im not impressed
@@shredfactor7and Totten. Those are all great players! My personal favorites are probably Eric Johnson and Paul Gilbert.
There is no best guitarist ever. For me, Jimi is the guitarist with the combination of technical abilities AND creativity AND feel who I like most. And, btw, Tina S is awesome.
Yeah, she's amazing. I've been watching her for a while. There are a lot of great guitar players, but a smaller handful of players worth drooling over as players of extraordinary talent. She's one of those. It's not only that she's playing all of that here (and other pieces), but she makes everything look effortless and then manages to add some emotion and a special touch of her own. I don't know if she plans on going into music as a career, but, man, she can play with the very best of them.
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You talk about the time it takes to be able to play and perfect this piece... 99% or guitarists will never be able to play this song like Tina did.
She is an unbelievable talent. I am learning the Moonlight third movement on the piano at the moment. It is a very difficult piece and I could never have imagined someone transcribing this onto electric guitar! Of course it is disappointing to those of us who appreciated her playing that she is not posting at the present, but people change. Technically she may believe she has achieved all she wanted to and is doing something new.. Whatever she is doing, I hope she is content and may be at some point she will return, but if not, we have still had the pleasure of those performances she has shared with us.
This young woman is exceptionally gifted ... proud of you, Tina.