When Metal Meets Beethoven: Classical Composer Reacts to Tina S. | The Daily Doug (Episode 354)

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  • #TinaS #MetalMonday #Beethoven #MetalBeethoven #WomensWeek
    In this episode of #TheDailyDoug, I'm listening to a metal cover of Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata (third movement). This classical piece, written in 1801, continues to find new life with each passing generation. Now, Beethoven meets the electric guitar in the capable hands of young Tina S. As a part of Women's Week here on the channel, I couldn't pass up an opportunity to feature Tina expertly playing the guitar. I hope you enjoy!
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  • @renaudls
    @renaudls 2 ปีที่แล้ว +556

    hey Doug! thank you for having reacted to this video of my little protected Tina. I had the chance to teach her electric guitar from 13 to 18 years old, and also filmed and produced all these videos at that time in my studio. I must say that she never disappointed me, what a prodigy she was... a small precision concerning this version, it is an arrangement made by the incredible Italian guitarist, Michele "DrViossy" Vioni, who was kind enough to let us use his version. in any case, thank you for your various reaction videos that I watch very often! see ya. Renaud

    • @Frodojack
      @Frodojack 2 ปีที่แล้ว +87

      She needs to return to TH-cam and dazzle us with her brilliance. She's missed by millions.

    • @robertritchie2860
      @robertritchie2860 2 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      Hi Renaud, if possible some sort of update on how she is doing would be welcomed by many of us fans🙏

    • @alfaDude156
      @alfaDude156 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      I hope Tina is well and enjoy this "new" resurgency she's gotten with all these reactions on TH-cam.

    • @renaudls
      @renaudls 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      ​ @Robert Ritchie well unfortuntaley, I have no news from her for ages, as if she had disappeared from the planet

    • @AmarothEng
      @AmarothEng 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@Frodojack She disappeared and for a reason. Unless something terrible happened to her, it's very likely she chose to disappear as she probably didn't enjoy the fame and everything what comes with it, especially in the modern internet age. You may need to stop simping her so hard :P (that's a joke, don't take it personally).

  • @fnglert
    @fnglert 2 ปีที่แล้ว +324

    Many people underestimate how well Metal and Classical go together. I'm fully convinced that people like Tchaikovsky, Prokovief and Vivaldi would've been rock stars if they'd been alive today.

    • @leonardomedeiros669
      @leonardomedeiros669 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Marche Slave by Tchaikovsky was the metal of its time - energetic, raw, brutal. The only difference is there was no amplification back in those days.

    • @MrTubularBalls
      @MrTubularBalls 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@leonardomedeiros669 Double bassdrums didn't exist either, and I don't think anybody was doing grunting or pigsqueals yet 😂

    • @csantana1971
      @csantana1971 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      They would be doing some Peogressive Metal for sure… or some Symphonic Metal or a mixturr of both

    • @IkmelAAA
      @IkmelAAA 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Almost any music can be played on the guitar because it’s such a versatile instrument but it doesn’t mean that classical and metal/rock music in general are similar

    • @fnglert
      @fnglert 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@IkmelAAA Riiiiiiiiiight. That's why there's such a glut of metalbands incorporating classical elements. Because they're not similar whatsoever. And I'm Queen Elizabeth.

  • @Phil-Paris-France
    @Phil-Paris-France 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    TINA S 's TEACHER SAID : " hey Doug! thank you for having reacted to this video of my little protected Tina. I had the chance to teach her electric guitar from 13 to 18 years old, and also filmed and produced all these videos at that time in my studio. I must say that she never disappointed me, what a prodigy she was... a small precision concerning this version, it is an arrangement made by the incredible Italian guitarist, Michele "DrViossy" Vioni, who was kind enough to let us use his version. in any case, thank you for your various reaction videos that I watch very often! see ya." Renaud LOUIS-SERVAIS;

  • @davidviteris
    @davidviteris 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Tina S's cover of Steve Vai's "For the Love of God" is absolutely transcendent.

    • @PGGMusic
      @PGGMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also try this: th-cam.com/video/l5AQvPCPjwc/w-d-xo.html

  • @metalmark1214
    @metalmark1214 2 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    All of Tina's guitar covers have a combined total of 250 Million views. Other notables - For the Love of God, Through the Fire and Flames, Tornado of Souls, Comfortably Numb, Altitudes, The Loner, Eruption, Arpeggios From Hell

    • @andrewvaldez1710
      @andrewvaldez1710 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Had me at Tornado of Souls. Gonna have to go check out her stuff now.

    • @andrejz8954
      @andrejz8954 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Arpeggios*

    • @simonlesorcier
      @simonlesorcier ปีที่แล้ว

      And Jason Becker's altitudes!

    • @metalmark1214
      @metalmark1214 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@simonlesorcier yep, it's listed, great cover.

  • @ProspectorAl
    @ProspectorAl ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Beethoven would love it!

  • @TheCyberMantis
    @TheCyberMantis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Tina S is a freak of nature. Mastered the guitar at 17 years old.
    Check out: LOVEBITES "Frozen Serenade" ( Live in Tokyo 2021 )

    • @onetymebigtyme
      @onetymebigtyme 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yes
      Lovebites-
      Frozen serenade
      Edge of the world
      or Swan Song

  • @metalmark1214
    @metalmark1214 2 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    Thanks for doing my request Doug. Pretty phenomenal. Thanks for all the technical background. I discovered her back in 2016. Blew my mind.

    • @powerslave7876
      @powerslave7876 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Nice request Mark, I keep waiting for Fates Warning since December.

    • @Doug.Helvering
      @Doug.Helvering  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks as always for your support of the channel, Mark!

    • @old_man_with_cane3407
      @old_man_with_cane3407 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Doug.Helvering Doug you should check out Max Ostro.
      He is a mix of Joe Satriani and Steve Vai. He is another young guitar prodigy. Great work on your channel.

    • @TheCkhutton12
      @TheCkhutton12 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tina is great but the transcription was made by Dr. Viossy on TH-cam. He does an even stellar job with the play through.

    • @jimhardiman3836
      @jimhardiman3836 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheCkhutton12 He's an old man. She's a teenager.

  • @32a34a
    @32a34a 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Her version of Gary Moore's The Loner is pretty stunning. Just as beautiful as the original.

    • @joea7876
      @joea7876 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think Doug has yet to even do a Gary Moore piece....such a shame.

    • @32a34a
      @32a34a 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@joea7876 Tis is. Gary Moore's The Messiah Will Come Again live at the Montreux Jazz Festival
      in 1990 is easily one of the greatest guitar performances of all time. What he does with his 59
      Gibson Les Paul is just both pure magic and at times utter savagery. Just an epic epic video that
      can be seen on youtube.

    • @user_aikensc927
      @user_aikensc927 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@joea7876 Gary Moore was so overlooked by some. I'll never forget him doing "The Thrill Is Gone" with B.B. !! You could tell that Gary idolized him. He was awesome, may he RIP. ✌👍

    • @joea7876
      @joea7876 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@user_aikensc927 I was lucky enough to see Gary on the "Victims of the Future" tour back in 1983 from three rows back with Neil Carter, Bob Daisley, Neil Murray, and Ian Paice on drums, and Gary and the band was absolutely on FIRE at L'Amour in Brooklyn. He was absolutely brilliant and brutal and mind-melting on that album. Such a shame he isn't more appreciated by all....Doug should really pick something and go for it...

    • @richardurwin4432
      @richardurwin4432 ปีที่แล้ว

      I watched them back to back and I prefer her version. I think she has more expression.

  • @Pewtah
    @Pewtah 2 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Doug, about the dynamics: the technique she uses - known as "tapping" - needs amplification and high compression. So the dynamic range is very reduced, "every note has the same volume". You can not apply that on an acoustic guitar, that would be too soft. The magic of tapping is in the high speed you can play. Pieces like the 3rd movement of Moonlight fits perfectly to that.

    • @minaellysewarren2623
      @minaellysewarren2623 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      You absolutely can tap on an acoustic guitar -- see Michael Hedges, Jon Gomm, and tons of others.
      The difference in dynamics would generally be lacking in a piece that's just tapped out, though. The technique itself does provide more of a flat set of dynamics, at least on its own.
      However, there are plenty of other techniques and devices that could bring dynamics to any guitar piece -- a volume pedal (or use of a volume knob) would be an obvious choice, as would using clean and distorted tones, or varying the distortion, or changing picking techniques, or changing pickups...
      Pieces Doug has looked at, like Jason Becker's Air, which uses clean tones, still gets a few distinctive changes in dynamics between sections. Another would be Yngwie's Icarus Dream Suite Op. 3, although many of those changes are due to the instrumentation.

    • @babylemonade2868
      @babylemonade2868 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Was going to mention Michael Hedges myself. He was amazing

    • @jimhardiman3836
      @jimhardiman3836 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wrong

    • @Spivonious
      @Spivonious 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Joe Satriani - Midnight disagrees.

    • @MrTubularBalls
      @MrTubularBalls 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Eddie van Halen recorded an acoustic tapping piece, cover by Paul Gilbert:
      th-cam.com/video/_nqGGBcHH00/w-d-xo.html
      These are harmonic taps, and it's definitely softer than picking or plucking. But it's still doable.

  • @fredyair1
    @fredyair1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Beethoven was a Metalhead, the opening of the 5th Symphony is the first great metal riff in history.

  • @gosmo4504
    @gosmo4504 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I remember when I first saw her do "For The Love of God" by Vai. Wonderful talent

    • @lukaszp.3134
      @lukaszp.3134 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, I'm ('ve been?) still in shock listening "Tender Surrender". Huge talent!

    • @gosmo4504
      @gosmo4504 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lukaszp.3134 No points for grammer or spelling You're good. I agree 100%

    • @jan-assarlaine8312
      @jan-assarlaine8312 ปีที่แล้ว

      First time I heard it, sometime when it aired on MTV in the 90's, I was moved to tears because it was so beautiful.

  • @rhodrimorgan8386
    @rhodrimorgan8386 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Holy f*ckballs!!! Absolutely loved that.
    Also having played guitar for near 20 years, how humbling. What a player. The dedication to nail it that cleanly is mind-blowing

  • @Alice-ic5fy
    @Alice-ic5fy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Tina's cover of Steve Vai , for the love of God, shows her impeccable skills on the weary bar, timing and precision. It's a must see reaction. This is why she was considered one of the world's best at age 15

  • @j.scottgallagher8391
    @j.scottgallagher8391 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Japan's Lovebites "Winds of Transylvania" utilizes Beethoven's 5th. A must listen. All female heavy metal band.

  • @sagitt1856
    @sagitt1856 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    No! No! No! It's impossible. WOW! What a great transposition. What a great performance. Fluid play, touch without brutality. And did you see how fast she hits the strings? Breathtaking. She comes from another world! Yngwie is in trouble. Thank you Mark. Thank you, Master Helvering.

    • @JPR17
      @JPR17 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Listen to aliceimusic. She really puts Yngwie in trouble.

  • @lowdz68
    @lowdz68 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Doug, you really must give Uli Jon Roth a try - he was the guitarist in Scorpions in the 70s when they were very experimental. He very much influenced Yngwie and he plays several classical pieces live, including the Four Seasons.

    • @ralfwegner917
      @ralfwegner917 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      and there was Michael Schenker from Germany who played for UFO

  • @antoniocarlin5026
    @antoniocarlin5026 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Yngwie Malmsteen and Ritchie Blackmore Plays Beethoven too!!! on guitar.... and on Piano: Rick Wakeman with his Beethoven Pathetique

    • @johngrenier3265
      @johngrenier3265 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      yngwie came to my mind too..... i also believe tso made an entire concept album based on beethovens last night on earth , as a kind of pop metal take

    • @antoniocarlin5026
      @antoniocarlin5026 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johngrenier3265 Transiberian Orchestra made a concept album about Beethoven....

    • @antoniocarlin5026
      @antoniocarlin5026 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johngrenier3265 Yes! the tso...but I think is a Christmas album... Jon Lord plays a beautiful version from Fur Elisa

    • @AJ_NL_1963
      @AJ_NL_1963 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And Jon Lord has been influenced by Bach al lot. Metal and classical music are close to each other.
      It was my introduction to classical music.
      Concerto for Group and Orchestra is my first lp. And al if these releases are most important items in my huge collection

  • @47.000
    @47.000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This version, this entire piece, this guitar playing is the most furious of them all. I've watched this over a million times. Tina we miss you all. Love 💞

  • @shanebilowitz7261
    @shanebilowitz7261 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Beethoven really shook things up. He was all like, "oh I'm supposed to put a recapitulation of theme A here? Nah. I'm gonna put an oboe cadenza here instead."

    • @sianpodmore4988
      @sianpodmore4988 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Beethoven would have been totally up for metal if he'd had the machinery available

    • @Alewifes_Husband
      @Alewifes_Husband 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sianpodmore4988 I can only imagine the first or second movements of Symphony #9 as Metal. That'd be astounding. Someone should, and probably already has, produced such thing :-)

    • @richardurwin4432
      @richardurwin4432 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sianpodmore4988 I've seen an analysis of Ode to Joy that says the violin comes in as it is closest to the human voice. The electric guitar beats a violin at that, every single time.

  • @DarthMordax
    @DarthMordax 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Usually this piece represents one of the highest levels of technicality, precision, and endurance that most musicians strive to achieve on their respective instruments whenever the attempt is made to learn it. What I've always loved about Tina S's cover is how she looks almost bored while playing it, like it's too easy for her 🤣
    Absolute LEGEND.

  • @dereks1264
    @dereks1264 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love the "what the hell is happening" look on people's faces the first time they experience her playing. She started learning classical guitar at age six (which you can tell by how she holds the guitar in this vid). She was 17 when this was recorded. I love her little smile at the end, where it looks like she didn’t even break a sweat, as if she's saying: "And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how it's done". Crazy tapping, hammer ons, pulloffs, bends, harmonics and mad flat picking. Ya gotta wonder what Ludwig would say if he came back and watched this. Aside from everything else, this is a master class in guitar techniques. I tried tapping along, to the bits where she is tapping, just trying to match the rhythm and not even trying to land on the strings and failed miserably. I think I'll take up the tuba.

  • @Plymouth888
    @Plymouth888 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Just love the electric Guitar set in a classic position on the knee (with a foot stool no doubt). The left hand is like a dancing spider 👏👏

    • @gosmo4504
      @gosmo4504 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Im trying to imagine doing that then the guitars just go back on the rack.

    • @Nako6009
      @Nako6009 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's actually pretty comfy but you need a foot stool so it's not always practical lol

    • @allancerf9038
      @allancerf9038 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bravo Robert. I noticed it immediately. You and I are apparently the only two who seem to have noticed.

  • @juliem6696
    @juliem6696 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    She's amazing. Her rendition of Steve Vai's For the Love of God is absolutely mind blowing. Btw, please do Pink Floyd Comfortably Numb.

  • @irenegade164
    @irenegade164 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    KILLER!
    She doesn't even look at the fretboard. She is the personification of the adage 'don't practice until you get it right - practice until you CAN'T get it wrong!'

  • @stevenhopwood8195
    @stevenhopwood8195 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Certainly an amazing guitar player. I wonder what Beethoven would have thought of this. Fantastic is what I think. ❤️🤘🎸🇦🇺

    • @matthiaskern5899
      @matthiaskern5899 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I guess he would have hated it. Incedible playing but no feeling for the music itself. Makes no sense at all.

    • @nellgwenn
      @nellgwenn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It depends on how old he was.

    • @stevenhopwood8195
      @stevenhopwood8195 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cinejourneys 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @nellgwenn
      @nellgwenn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cinejourneys What I mean is, he would have had to have heard it before he went deaf.

    • @MsKeylas
      @MsKeylas ปีที่แล้ว

      @@matthiaskern5899 no feeling for music? Are you on crack or something? Just because she doesn't show emotions in a flashy way, doesn't mean that she doesn't ''FEEL the music'' . She does, and it is obvious. She is ''in the zone'' where everything disappears besides music she plays. In essence your comment is very rude and ignorant

  • @BrindleChase
    @BrindleChase 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Tina S does Dr Viossy's arrangement with supreme skill! If you get the chance, check out Dr. Viossy's rendition and you'll see just how well she did!

  • @RedLP5000S
    @RedLP5000S 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    She needs to be signed up like now. She would fit in a symphonic power Metal band perfectly. 🤘🏻 Tina can show Yngwie how it's done.

  • @mrtnsnp
    @mrtnsnp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    There is a recording by Dr. Viossy of the same piece. I think he (or his band) recorded the backing track.

    • @torretennine8080
      @torretennine8080 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Here link to original version by Dr. Viossy
      th-cam.com/video/MZuSaudKc68/w-d-xo.html

  • @angelomoshopoulos4369
    @angelomoshopoulos4369 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    This was amazing playing by Tina.
    Dr. Viossy's version is great also.
    She plays an incredible Yngwie also. Your analysis of the 3rd movement was incredible also. A lot of insight into Beethoven. Doug. It would be nice if you could include Rachel Flowers in the future either her playing ELP on organ or piano or Frank Zappa on guitar live with his son. Thanks

    • @robertodamico8081
      @robertodamico8081 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think Dr. Viossy's better. Much more cleaner.

    • @phungyi4947
      @phungyi4947 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@robertodamico8081 I have nothing against Tina S, she's clearly got it down.
      However, it really grates me that Dr Viossy (who's backing track she uses) never gets
      the recognition he deserves for being the original arranger and interpretation of this master piece.
      I also prefer Viossy's version as it does have better nuance.

    • @Sarklord
      @Sarklord 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@robertodamico8081 I was gonna comment on that too. Not only Dr. Viossy's version is cleaner, it was posted 5 years before Tina's video.
      His cover is the gold standard.
      The fact that his video has almost half the views of Tina with only 1 / 10 of the subs she has is a clear indication of which cover is .....the one.

    • @angelomoshopoulos4369
      @angelomoshopoulos4369 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@robertodamico8081 I think so also although both are impressive. It's also a weird guitar shape that Dr. Viossy plays with.

    • @petersilver4281
      @petersilver4281 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean, she is literally cited Dr. Viossy...

  • @trailrunner919
    @trailrunner919 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah man, Tina S was in my recommended vids back in 2016 playing Altitudes and was blown away by her technical ability at such a young age...Brilliant!!!

  • @tracycecil8010
    @tracycecil8010 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another great reaction Doug! This girl is unbelievable!

  • @magedogtag
    @magedogtag 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Face it man, Beethoven was writing heavy metal guitar solos almost his whole life. 😂

  • @Ando2k10
    @Ando2k10 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Dr. Viossy created this arrangement, and his version has a bit more of the dynamics that you were talking about this version missing. You would like his channel, I think, because he has a lot of classical pieces arranged for guitar...Mozart, Bach, and many others.

  • @petersilver4281
    @petersilver4281 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember I brought this one up a while ago - glad you got to it, even if someone else pointed you to it!

  • @MrBluehash1
    @MrBluehash1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    She is back again: SpinTwice❤

  • @danwiesdamageinc
    @danwiesdamageinc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This was the last video Tina s. uploaded. It's like she said "I win" and went home with her trophy.
    If you're doing a female musicians week, you need look no further than Japan. I don't know what they're doing over there, but it's working.

    • @Wagoo
      @Wagoo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's mad.. and sad. She reminds me of Marty Friedman and Jason Becker when they were kids effortlessly soloing in Cacophony.. but.. come on Tina.. we need you in our world!

  • @ericdepagne
    @ericdepagne 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Doug. Great analysis, as usual, with lots of little details that make all the difference.

  • @herrroy4963
    @herrroy4963 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    She's absolutely amazing. That talent are very unique. I too wonder so much what happened to her.

    • @MsKeylas
      @MsKeylas ปีที่แล้ว

      She is just focused on her studies in university

    • @KenFarnham
      @KenFarnham ปีที่แล้ว +1

      She likes to play guitar but she didn't want to be a full time musician. She went to university. She will probably be professional in some science and keep guitar as a hobby/party trick.

    • @MsKeylas
      @MsKeylas ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KenFarnham She studies in Law Degree area, at least from what I heard. And if she puts same focus and dedication into her studies as in her guitar skills it is no wonder that she has no time for making/posting videos. Plus people who complain that even while studying she should have time to make videos forget that she needs time also to have normal. teenager/young woman life which takes a lot of time

    • @allancerf9038
      @allancerf9038 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MsKeylas She reappeared last night.

  • @jah9253
    @jah9253 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm a classically trained pianist and my favorite Beetoveen sonatas to play are all 3 movements of Moonlight, Pathetique, and Waldstein. Moonlight 3rd movement is a fun one to play, it's challenging to play but not as difficult as say the 3rd movement of Waldstein. I will say that the piece gets physically hard to play towards the end when I haven't been practicing it much. It certainly requires endurance.

  • @AmatureAstronomer
    @AmatureAstronomer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The first movement is my favorite song of all time. I find this performance of the 3rd movement impressive.

  • @Pugwash.
    @Pugwash. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's a good job we had you to talk us through this one Doug, because I wasn't sure what was happening. My fingers hurt just watching.

  • @0ParisFrance
    @0ParisFrance ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In this page : Renaud LS (Tina S's teacher Renaud LOUIS-SERVAIS) comments :
    "hey Doug! thank you for having reacted to this video of my little protected Tina. I had the chance to teach her electric guitar from 13 to 18 years old, and also filmed and produced all these videos at that time in my studio. I must say that she never disappointed me, what a prodigy she was... a small precision concerning this version, it is an arrangement made by the incredible Italian guitarist, Michele "DrViossy" Vioni, who was kind enough to let us use his version. in any case, thank you for your various reaction videos that I watch very often! see ya." Renaud

    • @sastaffa
      @sastaffa ปีที่แล้ว

      whatever happened to her? is she ever coming back? she is greatly missed by over 40 mil people.....

  • @stevebury6560
    @stevebury6560 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Tina was 17 when this was recorded.

  • @kjc9trader491
    @kjc9trader491 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Beethoven absolutely is "Metal" ~ as it was - back then ~ His music at the time was groundbreaking... Very much "Harder" than most anything else being produced at the time...

  • @SobrietyandSolace
    @SobrietyandSolace ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the kind of music I live for, I can’t think of anything more up my alley, honestly

  • @BogeyCDogRosey
    @BogeyCDogRosey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What I also love about LVB is his big, dissonant chords.

  • @caesarflickerman9880
    @caesarflickerman9880 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for such a wonderful explanation. Your segment on "ABA" made it easier to understand.

  • @jimwilson5148
    @jimwilson5148 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for doing this one! I had never heard this amazing performance before. If I can make a suggestion for something for you to listen to (not necessarily as a reaction video, but just because I think you would really enjoy it) is Blues in Elf by the Don Ellis Orchestra off his Tears of Joy album. The beginning of the piece is a version for the first movement of this, but in 3 2/3 / 4 time. It also features a string quartet, a great sax soli, and a solo on quarter tone trumpet.

  • @kkampy4052
    @kkampy4052 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've watched this several times, gives me goosebumps every time. Catch the "Mona Lisa" smile at the end.

    • @0ParisFrance
      @0ParisFrance ปีที่แล้ว

      Tina smiles 7 times in this video.

  • @drewrosecrans9728
    @drewrosecrans9728 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nobody can touch Tina s 🤘🤘🎸💯

  • @ickelpete
    @ickelpete 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    OMG that impressive!!! what an amazing talent.

  • @bobr4987
    @bobr4987 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I found your educated breakdown of Beethoven & Tina's work extremely fascinating. Thank You for that!
    Tina also covers Vivaldi's "Four Seasons: Summer".

  • @mooncritter721
    @mooncritter721 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That is so hard to do on guitar. I have been riffing for over 40 + yrs and this is amazing to me. She was wired for music at birth. She is only 17! I am 62 AND I COULD NOT KEEP UP WITH THIS NO MATTER HOW MUCH I PRACTICE! I can play some Becker and some Malmsteen but BEETHOVEN? No way!

  • @cecilethie9412
    @cecilethie9412 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wonderful! It reminds me a french guitarist, Patrick Rondat, same virtuosity with Vivaldi, amazing!

    • @One_Proud_Papa
      @One_Proud_Papa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      BTW, Tina S is also French. So, maybe she was influenced by him.

    • @cecilethie9412
      @cecilethie9412 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@One_Proud_Papa thanks for the info! Yes, who knows :)

    • @0ParisFrance
      @0ParisFrance 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Le professeur de Tina est un ami de Patrick Rondat, ils font des master class ensemble.
      Tina's teacher is a friend of Patrick Rondat, they do master classes together.

    • @cecilethie9412
      @cecilethie9412 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@0ParisFrance la boucle est bouclée ! Merci pour l'info !

  • @deadsightsx
    @deadsightsx 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    OMG! Tina S! how fun that you reviewed this one!

  • @chriss-nf1bd
    @chriss-nf1bd ปีที่แล้ว +1

    On top of all this she makes it look so easy...

  • @johnhawkins_twa
    @johnhawkins_twa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Doug, I was one of the many that asked you to react to this. Loved your analysis. I believe her teacher included the backing track to help the audience know that she's keeping a steady tempo throughout. You'll also notice that she doesn't look at the fret board very often. If you want to see/hear her covers that have a lot more feel/emotion in them I would suggest For the Love of God, The Loner, and Altitudes. If I remember correctly you reacted to Steve Vai performing For the Love of God. I believe you will enjoy Tina's version. She adds her own style to it so its not a note for note cover. If you choose to not react to Tina anymore, I hope you watch her covers for your own enjoyment. I just realized that even though I've been watching your reactions for awhile now, I haven't subscribed. I have taken care of that issue. Subscribed. Let's get you pass the 200k mark.

  • @thebones
    @thebones 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was gobsmacked the first time that I heard this. I thought 'how can this be done?' Well it has been and it's brilliant - she is. I see that the first inversion of the flat II 'Neapolitan' chord has the same effect on you Doug as it does on me! Such a dirty chord.

  • @fritsanjafa386
    @fritsanjafa386 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Talking about Beethoven:
    In the late 60-ties, early 70-ties in the Netherlands there was a band called EKSEPTION.
    They had a big hit with a piece called "The 5th" , which was their 'version' of the first movement of Beethovens 5th symphony (obviously...). Their leader was Rick van der Linden (more or less the Dutch Keith Emerson). After that they also arranged a couple of pieces by J.S. Bach.
    Maybe, Doug, you could have a listen, just for fun...

  • @robocopvn
    @robocopvn ปีที่แล้ว +2

    we must give the credit to Dr.Viossy. He the one who arranges it!

    • @0ParisFrance
      @0ParisFrance ปีที่แล้ว

      TINA S's teacher Renaud Louis-Servais comment 16/3/2022 on this page : "thank you Doug for having reacted to this video of my little protected Tina. I had the chance to teach her electric guitar from 13 to 18 years old, and also filmed and produced all these videos at that time in my studio. I must say that she never disappointed me, what a prodigy she was... a small precision concerning this version, it is an arrangement made by the incredible Italian guitarist, Michele "DrViossy" Vioni, who was kind enough to let us use his version. in any case, thank you for your various reaction."
      "I made her work on a lot of pieces, but only a part was the subject of videos. On the other hand, everything that has been filmed is online."
      Renaud

  • @alfaDude156
    @alfaDude156 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love Tinas rendition of The Third Movement here, it is true to the original at the same time as it is pure metal.
    I recently went down the rabbit hole of TH-cam following the history of, and Who Began, Heavy Metal. Lot of debate between Black Sabbat and Judas Priest. Someone thow in some other bands and songs. "You Really Got Me" is the first song blah, blah, blah. I can only watch the selfproclaimed experts while shaking my head.
    Yea, Metal is a bit older then that, they just didn't have electrical guitars and distortion back then.

  • @fespa
    @fespa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For a Metal Monday (Moon day) it was only fitting to have a Moonlight sonata. Great vid. Thanks.

  • @Plx499
    @Plx499 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A very qualified analysis

  • @mvanheden
    @mvanheden 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    You must listen to Tina when she play Yngwe Malmsteen and Dream Theaters Best of times. Her technique is just amazing.

  • @illegalquantity
    @illegalquantity 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Loved your reaction! It might not be perfect, but it's her cover, a huge talent's, and damn good to watch and listen to!

  • @SobrietyandSolace
    @SobrietyandSolace ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The ‘Banya’ track ‘Moonlight’ produced for the rhythm game Pump it Up is also based on this movement but the main melody is altered quite a lot. They have a lot of EDM classical remixes

    • @0ParisFrance
      @0ParisFrance ปีที่แล้ว

      The 1st movement of the Moonlight Sonata inspired John Lennon to write the track BECAUSE on the Abbey Road album.

  • @torineg.847
    @torineg.847 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Doug ! I just heard this an hour ago and totally mesmerizing, I couldn't look away. What I noticed also is no expressions as she plays, like yup i do this in my sleep.
    Imagine Tina and Yngwie Malmsteen jam !
    Thanks for your videos doug !
    PS: Listen to Beethoven - Moonlight Sonata (3rd Movement) - Cover Ft. Cole Rolland... There are some amazing guitar players no one's ever heard of.

    • @yogajedi3337
      @yogajedi3337 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, it's so obvious. She's just blasting out notes as written with no dynamics and understanding. Compare the original and other covers. But she's young and cute and that is more impressive for most fans.

    • @0ParisFrance
      @0ParisFrance 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      - You watched the video wrong, because Tina has a lot of expressions and she smiles... 7 TIMES in this video !!

  • @Metal_Auditor
    @Metal_Auditor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would recommend looking at Dr. Viossi’s video of this. It’s his arrangement, as she indicates in her video description.

  • @ditmavic
    @ditmavic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, that was amazing! Reminds me a bit of Yngwie J Malmsteen, he was another for electrifying classical pieces.

  • @jeffersoncosgrove1910
    @jeffersoncosgrove1910 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the choice to give the second theme a "half time" feel on the drums the first run through before going back to the more typical 2 and 4 on the backbeat as it repeats.

  • @sontinos528
    @sontinos528 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    fuck the nuances, this is masterclass.

  • @pauloakley2124
    @pauloakley2124 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Its like the Left Hand has 6 fingers ! 🤣🤣😳👌👍

  • @peterzuehlke3636
    @peterzuehlke3636 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tina S is an amazing guitarist! To answer your question about dynamics on an electric guitar, you can roll the volume knob on the guitar. However, with this tempo, it would be more practical to employ a volume pedal (like the swell pedal on an organ).

  • @micknordstrom2591
    @micknordstrom2591 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Totally amazing!

  • @hansmercier2809
    @hansmercier2809 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very impressive child virtuoso. Very happy you visited this. I believe she was only 17 at the time. Magical.

  • @matteogiberti3297
    @matteogiberti3297 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dr. Viossy (a.k.a. Michele Vioni) is an italian guitarist I've seen live many times with the band Mr. Pig and had a chat with Him a couple of times. On TH-cam there's his version of this piece of music and videos of his band which features as a singer the great Michele Luppi known also to be keyboard player in Whitesnake.

  • @VoIcanoman
    @VoIcanoman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Been a huge fan of Tina for years (I discovered her in...2018 I think), and this is one of her best performances. I've always said, if Beethoven were composing today, he'd be a metalhead of the highest order. It is fun to speculate as to what a talent like that would do with modern influences and technology (as for the instruments themselves, I think these would be pretty familiar to ol' Ludwig). I expect his band would be some vein of progressive deathcore, with midrange harsh vocals and off-the-charts technical virtuosity. But that's just a guess.

  • @peterhorne7203
    @peterhorne7203 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Doug, I'm a year late on responding to this but I wanted you to know that you have validated Tina's talent and debunked all of her haters at the same time.
    Nobody should spend 3 to 6 years practicing a piece like this to perfect it just to have a bunch of hacks dump on her.
    Thanks for this really honest and professional reaction 👍👍

    • @peterhorne7203
      @peterhorne7203 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Doug, I am so happy to come across your reactions.
      It is so refreshing to watch your reaction videos compared to most of the ones where people are just making fake facial expressions about what they are seeing or hearing and most often have no idea of what they are into.
      Please keep on doing your thing!

    • @peterhorne7203
      @peterhorne7203 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Any chance of you doing a reaction to Marcin Patrzalek performing his version of Moon light Sonata?

  • @germantoenglish898
    @germantoenglish898 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Just waiting for a phone box to land and Bill and Ted to jump out.

  • @fredandpattychandler4130
    @fredandpattychandler4130 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Definitely check out Uli Jon Roth's Symphony and on 7 string 36 fretted electric guitar. Incredibly well done. And a true innovator.

  • @katesjanice
    @katesjanice 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My fav band is 70s Kansas. Kerry Livgren on lead guitar, piano, synth, mellotron, etc. wrote all of the wonderful prog songs that are so fabulous. He never took music lessons, can't read or write music, but grew up from the crib listening to classical music, particularly the romantic era. And it has spilled over into his songwriting. In my opinion, he is the finest rock composer, orchestrator, lyricist, and multi instrumentalist ever. You really must listen to their first 8 albums. It's absolutely easy to hear which songs were written by Kerry and which by Steve Walsh. This was a remarkable live band - all 6 members great musicians and so tight!
    Play Kansas please!! Journey to Mariabronn, Belexes, Icarus Borne on Wings of Steel, The Pinnacle, Song for America, Lamplight Symphony, Incomudro, the entire Leftoverture album, Dust in the Wind, Hopelessly Human, Relentless, Hold On, Curtain of Iron, Crossfire. All great Livgren songs. It's no wonder that he is known as "the Maestro".
    Love your channel!

  • @psionic6126
    @psionic6126 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey Doug. Glad to see you discovered her. I would highly recommend "Max Ostro" when it comes to young talents. He got signed at JTC Guitar and you should listen his Jazz/Groove kinda stuff. That kid really leaves me speechless man.

    • @old_man_with_cane3407
      @old_man_with_cane3407 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I just asked Doug to check Max out in a different thread.
      Max is a mix of Vai and Satriani...
      Glad to see others know of Ostro's talent..

    • @psionic6126
      @psionic6126 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@old_man_with_cane3407 I was able to see Max live. Well, i wouldn't say he's a Vai/Satriani kinda player. He's got the whole package man. What can he actually play? : Yngwie Malmsteem, Vai, Satriani, Michael Romeo. He played them at the age of 15!! Now he is playing Guthrie Govan stuff and i don't need to tell everybody how difficult Guthrie's stuff is. But what really stands out to me, is his own music. Songs like "Promenade, or Joker, Groove on, are just pure magic mate.

    • @old_man_with_cane3407
      @old_man_with_cane3407 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@psionic6126 i have heard all those pieces you mentioned by max.
      I have not seen him live yet. I have seen Satch and Vai numerous times as well as others. Max's groove and fluid movements are what remind me of Satch and Vai combined...
      Have a good one...

  • @paulg-sg
    @paulg-sg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fantastic Doug. I hope you will get to experience some Lovebites this week; I am sure you will totally geek out how they compose metal with classical sensibilities (& chops), not just metal covers of classical pieces. Recommended tracks that really highlight this: Edge of the World; Swan Song; Glory to the World.

    • @One808
      @One808 ปีที่แล้ว

      A Frozen Serenade would have fit the bill too.

  • @SobrietyandSolace
    @SobrietyandSolace ปีที่แล้ว

    Handle’s Passacaglia is amazing on electric guitar as well!!

  • @vampjager8586
    @vampjager8586 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Doug: It's a C sharp minor into a minor back.
    Me with zero musical experience: Ahh I see of course it is.

  • @zzuave2666
    @zzuave2666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A natural follow on from this would be Uli Jon Roth's Metamorphosis, his take on the entire Four Seasons with his electric 'Sky guitar'.

  • @keythinwatford7153
    @keythinwatford7153 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A great choice. On the same lines I would like to recommend Dave Edmunds & Love Sculpture's version of Sabre Dance by Khachaturian dating from 1968.

  • @nicoladisvevia
    @nicoladisvevia 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm left open-mouthed!!!

  • @sneepers1005
    @sneepers1005 ปีที่แล้ว

    At the 13:40 mark I definitely agree with him it is definitely a George Costanza development

  • @mr.smithgnrsmith7808
    @mr.smithgnrsmith7808 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the cap dude…I’m Scotsman and wear them a lot…my pops always called them “apple scrapples”..lol

  • @ss_avsmt
    @ss_avsmt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Julliette V has some very original work in her albums. They're available on Bandcamp.

  • @robertakerman3570
    @robertakerman3570 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've heard of: 1)tickling the ivories 2)classical "Guitar" now, 3) welcome to Tina S World Wow!

  • @bayurahmadi7754
    @bayurahmadi7754 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    RIP my love Tina S

  • @davidsleith7222
    @davidsleith7222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cheers for the react and break down - i know what she is doing, i just can't get my fingers to move that quick. her slides during her tapping is crazy good. Steve vai will always be my #1 guitarist, but Tina? dang girl.. best o luck in all ye do.

  • @brucebowling6032
    @brucebowling6032 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tina S truly shreds, as does Lisa X. Young female guitarists who rock are always interesting. I wish I had half of their talent! I wish he did one of her originals. Does she have some? I only know her from covers. Doug already knows the piece, but her rendition is awesome! He could have shredders every day, but technique does not necessarily imply quality. Michael Batio is stupidly talented, but much of his music is an example of how fast he can play.

  • @jan-ovepedersen5764
    @jan-ovepedersen5764 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    She plays Vigier Excalibur Custom guitars, she was endorsed by this French Guitar Maker and was on their artist list 5 yrs ago, she is not listed anymore. Anyway they make amazing instruments :-)

    • @0ParisFrance
      @0ParisFrance 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And Vigier is crying now

  • @LV426CX1
    @LV426CX1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome commentary! You should check Anton Oparin’s version of Bach’s Fantasy in D minor on electric guitar.

  • @nerdity275
    @nerdity275 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looks pretty relaxed too, definitely not her limit. If anyone would like some acoustic guitar magic, try Lucas Imbiriba - Sultans of Swing, beautiful arrangement and max. difficulty level.

    • @Psychprogrock
      @Psychprogrock 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's amusing to see the side-by-side comparison of Yngwie and her playing "Arpeggios form Hell" and notice who hits the limit. Spoiler: it's not Tina.

  • @elisekellett2378
    @elisekellett2378 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow she is amazing. Doug have you heard two cellos. Two cellists who play heavy metal on the cello. They play AC-DC, Guns and Roses and Avicci. Worth a look. They're on TH-cam. Loving your channel. 🇭🇲🇭🇲🇭🇲