Edit: Many of you have inquired about the second soundtrack featured in the video. It's titled "The Player on The Other Side," a Penacony battle soundtrack from Honkai: Star Rail. Hope that helps! Edit 2: In the text commentary, I mentioned that the Mek local legend in the Spiral Abyss has the same HP as the one in open world. This is isn’t correct, as the Mek in open world is only level 93 while the one in the Spiral Abyss is level 100. There's a mistake in the builds section of the video. Xiangling used "The Catch" for 12-2. Sorry about that!
@@fastgameknightNo they don't. You just have to know how to proc your weapon , talents and artifact buffs properly. Practice on the samurai in inazuma or the geovishap. Monitor your stats while doing so to make sure you're procing everything. There's a TH-camr named betweenblackandwhite. In his videos, he tries to squeeze the most damage he can out of some of the characters. I'm talking 260K vapes with Gaming using the rainslicer. Watch him and his process, and you'll she how he works his way up to big damage.
I use kazuha all the time for that reason only. It's really wild to see this mechanic in game. Hoping hoyo will make a character that utilizes this kit. I'll take it even if it is a 4 star.
@@antoniogabriel6461 damn... I felt just the opposite... I used same teams in both abyss ( neuvi hy BL and rational ) i felt this abyss was way easier compared to the last one
@@antoniogabriel6461 what teams did you use i mostly struggled with my rotation against the wenut once i got it right i was able to 36 star as the other 2 chambers were quite easy
I CAN'T believe that this abyss can be cleared with starter charaters and F2P weapons. I mean are u kidding me??!! And the builds aren't stacked with crit or anything... The team contribution matters the most. I really am surprised. Its better than those solo runs i have seen
Thanks, 👍! Technically, I used Engulfing Lightning, which isn’t really considered “F2P” by most players, in 12-1 because I wasn’t sure how to pass the DPS check. However, I do know it’s possible to clear 12-1 without that weapon. liilli has done a starter characters only run on their channel too, and they used an even more “F2P” setup.
Wow, great clear! This definitely looks like one of the harder Abysses, feels like a number of the waves are pushing 4 or even 5 rotations even without team restrictions like this, so seeing you continue to make the starter character only runs happen is super impressive
This video is soooo good and I hope people will start pulling for the characters they want since some are "obligated" to pull for meta characters. Honestly all you need for defeating spiral abyss is knowing the correct rotation, know the prioritize of which monster you should defeat first and a good wifi AHAHA. Anyways keep up the work!
@@TurtleCamera can't wait to watch it! I love Collei and I'm planning to make a full green team with her,kuki,Sucrose and baizhu! So you inspired me to build her right ♡
Your standarr characters are amazingly built, good job, to me the only change id make is switching lynette for chevy for extra dmg and a bit of healing
Chevy is not a starter character tho. The whole reason for this abyss run is to prove a point. That you can clear abyss without pulling any charcters, using only those given by mihoyo in story quests
@madamenonchalant7021 I know that, I was just mentioning my personal preferences, I'd switch lynette for chevreuse for more dmg output, not to invalidate their point
Thanks! Someone suggested in the comments of the 4.1 Starter Characters Only run to try out Honkai: Star Rail’s music, so I tested it in this video. It’s called “The Player on the Other Side.”
I see that starter char content finally getting blow up recently bcs of you eh. I'm staying on C0 craft wp and copium artifacts no wonder abyss still feel hard for me also skill issue hahah 💀
As much as I want my videos to blow up, I wish it was liilli who blew up in the Starter Characters Only category to be honest. Melt Amber was meant to be my main form of content while Starter Characters Only was supposed to be secondary content on my channel. liilli is often much better at Starter Characters Only runs and makes it their main form of content, but they seldom get attention for it. They deserve so much more attention.
XiangLing’s Pyronado has no ICD, so she applies pyro too quickly to reliably trigger overload (as in I can’t easily override the pyro aura with an electro aura for XiangLing to overload)
I am pretty sure we do not have one because inazuma is quest locked region. New players would not be able to go to inazuma to collect materials for character building.
A lot of the tips I have are shared in the text commentary of my videos, though there are some parts of the video that I dedicate to explaining the theory behind the run (e.g., fights like the Jadeplume Terrorshroom are relatively straightforward, so I use that time to explain theory instead). As for a general set of tips, two things I’d recommend are the following: - Find a way to group enemies effectively - Try to find a fixed rotation for your team that sustains everyone’s energy needs if possible. That way, it takes away a lot of the stress in playing a team.
I do memorize most of them. It helps me a lot with figuring out when to engage or play defensively, so I get as much value out of my abilities as possible.
@@TurtleCamera How long have you been playing genshin? Do you consider that team as "well built"? Do you do 1 on 1 tutorials? Thanks for answering my questions
Since the focus of the video is on how well you play with the starter characters, it would help a lot if you added voice over, so we don't have to pause the video all the time to read and pay attention to the gameplay
Thank you for sharing your thoughts! I've actually spent quite a bit of time considering the balance between gameplay and text in my Spiral Abyss videos in the past. Ultimately, I've decided that the primary focus should be on the gameplay itself, with text serving as supplementary information. Before I experimented with implementing voice overs, I encountered challenges in striking the right balance. The text you see in the videos covers only about 25% of the information I could potentially share, and I even had to halve the amount of information displayed due to feedback about readability. Introducing voice overs to explain everything led to another set of issues. I found myself needing to slow down the footage significantly to elaborate on all the information I could share, deviating from my intended style. To address this, I created a separate series called VoD Reviews on my channel. Currently, my solution involves providing a version of the video without text commentary, alongside reducing the amount of information by half, as previously mentioned. This alternative version is linked as an unlisted video in the description. Unless a compelling alternative arises, I intend to maintain the current format (or reduce the amount of information shown even more) based on recent feedback. In a recent poll, 86% of voters found the text speed to be just right, with 5% suggesting it was too slow and 9% indicating it was too fast.
In the text commentary, I mentioned that Gust Surge can lift enemies high enough to make them incur fall damage. I just kept resetting until both operatives took fall damage at least once.
It is fridge for 12-1 and 12-2, but I used hyper-bloom in 12-3. In the text commentary, I mentioned that I’ll find a solution to representing this in the thumbnail later.
It’s outlined in much more detail in the 4.2 video, but every ability in the game (including normal attacks) deals a set amount of poise damage, though there’s no visible number that shows up in-game. All enemies and characters in the game have a poise bar, and dealing enough damage will poise-break them. This allows you to stagger the enemy, which I use for grouping.
I show their builds at the end of the video, but here are their constellations: - Kaeya: C5 - Collei: C4 - Traveler: C6 for both Anemo and Dendro - Barbara: C2 - Lisa: C4 - Amber: C2 - XiangLing: C6 - Noelle: C6 - Lynette: C1 Later, I’m hoping to get C4 Lynette, C6 Kaeya, and C4 Amber (maybe C6). The rest of the constellations don’t help too much in my opinion.
I show their builds at the end of the video, but here are their constellations: - Kaeya: C5 - Collei: C4 - Traveler: C6 for both Anemo and Dendro - Barbara: C2 - Lisa: C4 - Amber: C2 - XiangLing: C6 - Noelle: C6 - Lynette: C1 Later, I’m hoping to get C4 Lynette, C6 Kaeya, and C4 Amber (maybe C6). The rest of the constellations don’t help too much in my opinion.
Edit: Many of you have inquired about the second soundtrack featured in the video. It's titled "The Player on The Other Side," a Penacony battle soundtrack from Honkai: Star Rail. Hope that helps!
Edit 2: In the text commentary, I mentioned that the Mek local legend in the Spiral Abyss has the same HP as the one in open world. This is isn’t correct, as the Mek in open world is only level 93 while the one in the Spiral Abyss is level 100.
There's a mistake in the builds section of the video. Xiangling used "The Catch" for 12-2. Sorry about that!
Xiangling carry too much lol I need her c4 so hard 😢😢it would change my damage so much
I just found your content. This is a really good concept. Starter building is so relatable! I will recommend this vid!
Player on the Other Side is such a banger
It's called "humiliate me and my characters in seven minutes and twelve seconds."
bro's starter characters hit harder than my fully built, Furina, Hu Tao and Navia😭😭😭😭😭😭
Clearly not fully built then 💀
@@fastgameknight rip my future
@@fastgameknightNo they don't. You just have to know how to proc your weapon , talents and artifact buffs properly. Practice on the samurai in inazuma or the geovishap. Monitor your stats while doing so to make sure you're procing everything.
There's a TH-camr named betweenblackandwhite. In his videos, he tries to squeeze the most damage he can out of some of the characters. I'm talking 260K vapes with Gaming using the rainslicer. Watch him and his process, and you'll she how he works his way up to big damage.
No way man, my hu tao does a casual 100 k per charged attack when buffed and furina up to 30 k as well.
@@fastgameknight high level talents and not bad crit rate/damage ratio what else should I do.
This is what we called “skill” and “talent”! I am so amazed by how you play anemo traveler with other elemental combinations!
I have always thought anemo traveller was the best but was never able to push him so far.
1:36 380k by fall damage
didnt know anyone other than jean can abuse fall dmg
I use kazuha all the time for that reason only. It's really wild to see this mechanic in game. Hoping hoyo will make a character that utilizes this kit. I'll take it even if it is a 4 star.
I suffered a little in this abyss, it's great to see you finishing with these teams.
You think its tougher than the previous one ?
@@not_sam4620 Compared to the last one, yes.
@@antoniogabriel6461 damn... I felt just the opposite... I used same teams in both abyss ( neuvi hy BL and rational ) i felt this abyss was way easier compared to the last one
@@not_sam4620 lol the last one was so easy for me.
@@antoniogabriel6461 what teams did you use i mostly struggled with my rotation against the wenut once i got it right i was able to 36 star as the other 2 chambers were quite easy
I CAN'T believe that this abyss can be cleared with starter charaters and F2P weapons. I mean are u kidding me??!! And the builds aren't stacked with crit or anything... The team contribution matters the most. I really am surprised. Its better than those solo runs i have seen
Thanks, 👍! Technically, I used Engulfing Lightning, which isn’t really considered “F2P” by most players, in 12-1 because I wasn’t sure how to pass the DPS check. However, I do know it’s possible to clear 12-1 without that weapon. liilli has done a starter characters only run on their channel too, and they used an even more “F2P” setup.
Wow, great clear! This definitely looks like one of the harder Abysses, feels like a number of the waves are pushing 4 or even 5 rotations even without team restrictions like this, so seeing you continue to make the starter character only runs happen is super impressive
👍 for liilli’s starter characters only runs too
In fact one of the easiest Abyss of all time
this is way easier tho lol
that barbara coppelia tech… no the entire first half… no wait literally every single run 😭 so good
This video is soooo good and I hope people will start pulling for the characters they want since some are "obligated" to pull for meta characters. Honestly all you need for defeating spiral abyss is knowing the correct rotation, know the prioritize of which monster you should defeat first and a good wifi AHAHA. Anyways keep up the work!
This was amazing to watch! Hands down one of the best videos I’ve ever seen.
Bro just called me Noob in 69 different languages.!!
i never knew frostcore would have been so good, but you proved that it is
Now that was a cool abyss run! Also, great video like always
Oh my gah, playing hold-E Lisa and charged-shot Amber in the Abyss, that's some serious skill man!
very impressive run!
you barely beating the abyss times had me STRESSING omg
I have skill issues and one of the worst ping ever. You gained my respect and a subscriber. Also, your damage are better than my 5* team the fok-
Such dedication, I admire
Incredible gameplay
Wah great clear as usual, i wanted to try this type of clear also someday. Ty for the shoutout tho, hoped my claymore strategy helped
You’re welcome! It did help, 👍
That's amazing!!!!
Bro that was insane! ❤
idk how many time i need toremind myself that its not about character but skill~
And build
And build
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This is so good!!! Love your video and good luck with the exams ♡
Thanks! Final exams week ended last week and I’m now working on the Melt Amber Both Sides video, 👍
@@TurtleCamera can't wait to watch it! I love Collei and I'm planning to make a full green team with her,kuki,Sucrose and baizhu! So you inspired me to build her right ♡
Well done!
Thanks!
Appreciate ❤❤
What da fuu good lord damage.more like this plz
:o! I remember playing with you when you had only around 200 subs! So glad ur at 1.7k now!
I remember you too! Thanks for your continued support, 👍!
@@TurtleCamera Ofcourse!
👍 X2
This is what godhood must feel like 👏🏼❤️
That is just crazy !! wow
Impressive work
Bruh this is insane gg
All you need for spiral is just the build of the char and the rotation
so good!!
So you are from Furu's discord. Easiest subscribe of my life.
Thanks for the subscription! I am from his Discord server
so inspiring 👀
This is impressive, GG
Nice!! Keep up the good work!! ^_^! Make sure to take breaks haha!! ^•^!
very impressive
Your standarr characters are amazingly built, good job, to me the only change id make is switching lynette for chevy for extra dmg and a bit of healing
Chevy is not a starter character tho. The whole reason for this abyss run is to prove a point. That you can clear abyss without pulling any charcters, using only those given by mihoyo in story quests
@madamenonchalant7021 I know that, I was just mentioning my personal preferences, I'd switch lynette for chevreuse for more dmg output, not to invalidate their point
Can we respect how much emblem this person have?
Everyone else: has 4 star weapons every time
Xiangling: im not taking anything below 5 star weapons. Gimme the engulfing
you deserve more views
Seeing Amber, Lisa and Kaeya in the Abyss makes me so happy :') I built them up early on! xD
Amazing as always! And new combat music? haha
Thanks! Someone suggested in the comments of the 4.1 Starter Characters Only run to try out Honkai: Star Rail’s music, so I tested it in this video. It’s called “The Player on the Other Side.”
@@TurtleCameraSounds great!
@kyogre-blue 👍
Your anemo traveler does so much damage omg
Anemo Traveler, Lisa, and Amber on floor 12, oh my goodness
Never have I thought that traveller would be op for spiral abyss last floor
bro edging the timer
let’s goooo!!!
gg ez glad to have helped :thumbsup:
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👍 X3
you're the only person allowed to say this game is too easy
I want the bgm more than anything
If you’re referring to the second one I used, it’s “The Player on the Other Side,” which is a soundtrack from Honkai: Star Rail, 👍
anemo traveler so fun
12-3 its so very very hard 🤯 i need joki. This people playing so very good gamee
im in love with u
You just proved that f2p players can do it too!❤
I see that starter char content finally getting blow up recently bcs of you eh.
I'm staying on C0 craft wp and copium artifacts no wonder abyss still feel hard for me also skill issue hahah 💀
As much as I want my videos to blow up, I wish it was liilli who blew up in the Starter Characters Only category to be honest. Melt Amber was meant to be my main form of content while Starter Characters Only was supposed to be secondary content on my channel. liilli is often much better at Starter Characters Only runs and makes it their main form of content, but they seldom get attention for it. They deserve so much more attention.
Waos
So what you mean is Lisa is the one doing overload and not xianglung...? I'm actually quite interested
XiangLing’s Pyronado has no ICD, so she applies pyro too quickly to reliably trigger overload (as in I can’t easily override the pyro aura with an electro aura for XiangLing to overload)
@@TurtleCamera I see... I just was interested to actually play this team but I guess I just need to learn it more
Thanks for the tip
@@mohamedahmedramzy792 You're welcome, 👍!
Wow
I just realized we need an Inazuman starter.
I am pretty sure we do not have one because inazuma is quest locked region. New players would not be able to go to inazuma to collect materials for character building.
@@yereveluvies well that didn’t stop the game from giving me Kuki on my first 10 pull so why not?
Things like this make you wanna quit because it seems like either crackhead f2p or giant whale who's can clear abyss easily.
7:21 dragonstrike spotted 👀
its the boss mechanic tho. Right?
@@Grey.the.Gandalffyup. this one is similar to the field generator, in which they both increase jumping height
@nie_hui It is the boss mechanic, but I know what they mean. The way I’m doing it looks similar to dragonstriking, just without the dash.
good
Thanks! Your run is better, though, 👍
IMPRESSIVE!
Sorry if this is weird but can you drop the music name? It's a banger😅
Thanks! The music name is in the pinned comment of this video, but it’s “The Player on the Other Side.”
@@TurtleCamera oops sorry😬 thanks
el diaaablo
Wow great abyss run! Can you teach me how to do that? Any tips you could share?
A lot of the tips I have are shared in the text commentary of my videos, though there are some parts of the video that I dedicate to explaining the theory behind the run (e.g., fights like the Jadeplume Terrorshroom are relatively straightforward, so I use that time to explain theory instead). As for a general set of tips, two things I’d recommend are the following:
- Find a way to group enemies effectively
- Try to find a fixed rotation for your team that sustains everyone’s energy needs if possible. That way, it takes away a lot of the stress in playing a team.
Thanks. Right now, I am having trouble clearing the abyss even though I have good builds on my 5 star characters.
@@TurtleCamerado you memorize the monsters attack patterns and side step to dodge them?
I do memorize most of them. It helps me a lot with figuring out when to engage or play defensively, so I get as much value out of my abilities as possible.
@@TurtleCamera How long have you been playing genshin?
Do you consider that team as "well built"?
Do you do 1 on 1 tutorials?
Thanks for answering my questions
Since the focus of the video is on how well you play with the starter characters, it would help a lot if you added voice over, so we don't have to pause the video all the time to read and pay attention to the gameplay
Thank you for sharing your thoughts! I've actually spent quite a bit of time considering the balance between gameplay and text in my Spiral Abyss videos in the past. Ultimately, I've decided that the primary focus should be on the gameplay itself, with text serving as supplementary information.
Before I experimented with implementing voice overs, I encountered challenges in striking the right balance. The text you see in the videos covers only about 25% of the information I could potentially share, and I even had to halve the amount of information displayed due to feedback about readability.
Introducing voice overs to explain everything led to another set of issues. I found myself needing to slow down the footage significantly to elaborate on all the information I could share, deviating from my intended style. To address this, I created a separate series called VoD Reviews on my channel.
Currently, my solution involves providing a version of the video without text commentary, alongside reducing the amount of information by half, as previously mentioned. This alternative version is linked as an unlisted video in the description.
Unless a compelling alternative arises, I intend to maintain the current format (or reduce the amount of information shown even more) based on recent feedback. In a recent poll, 86% of voters found the text speed to be just right, with 5% suggesting it was too slow and 9% indicating it was too fast.
Is Amber being used cuz there's no other choice? Or is there's a cool synergy she's offering?
I’m using her for pyro resonance and to feed pyro particles into XiangLing
1:22 where did that dmg come from?????
In the text commentary, I mentioned that Gust Surge can lift enemies high enough to make them incur fall damage. I just kept resetting until both operatives took fall damage at least once.
No way u crowned both elemental skill and burst for amber
On my main account, I crowned all 3 of her talents since I main her, 👍
Кейа - с5 Лиза с4 коллеи с4 ноэль с6 сянлин с6
Барбара - с2
это как? это реально?
Меня снова унизили.
Does they get fall damage the fatui one
They did, 👍
4:29 what’s the song used here?
It’s “The Player On the Other Side” from Honkai: Star Rail.
1:36 what is that damage comes from?? Fall damage??
It’s mentioned in the text commentary, but it is due to fall damage, 👍
Could you please make a xiangling guide
I would make one if I didn’t feel like I don’t have much to contribute, given that there are many good guides out there already.
How do you have c5 kaeya, c4 lisa and c2 amber, but only c2 barbara?
I don’t pull for Barbara’s constellations since they don’t help me much
that is fridge bloom instead hyperbloom
It is fridge for 12-1 and 12-2, but I used hyper-bloom in 12-3. In the text commentary, I mentioned that I’ll find a solution to representing this in the thumbnail later.
@@TurtleCamera nice job👍👍👍
No way bro Liking evey comment but not this one
Here’s a like for your comment too, 👍
That thumbnail is confusinh
The thumbnail has been update to show much less. Hopefully, it’s less confusing.
How is this even possible?
i'm sorry what is poise dmg?
It’s outlined in much more detail in the 4.2 video, but every ability in the game (including normal attacks) deals a set amount of poise damage, though there’s no visible number that shows up in-game. All enemies and characters in the game have a poise bar, and dealing enough damage will poise-break them. This allows you to stagger the enemy, which I use for grouping.
Is anemo traveller replaceable with venti here?
Anemo Traveler should be replaceable here, as long as Venti is sometimes causing fall damage (one source of damage I relied on)
What are those cons on starter characters 😭
I show their builds at the end of the video, but here are their constellations:
- Kaeya: C5
- Collei: C4
- Traveler: C6 for both Anemo and Dendro
- Barbara: C2
- Lisa: C4
- Amber: C2
- XiangLing: C6
- Noelle: C6
- Lynette: C1
Later, I’m hoping to get C4 Lynette, C6 Kaeya, and C4 Amber (maybe C6). The rest of the constellations don’t help too much in my opinion.
Thats all c6?
I show their builds at the end of the video, but here are their constellations:
- Kaeya: C5
- Collei: C4
- Traveler: C6 for both Anemo and Dendro
- Barbara: C2
- Lisa: C4
- Amber: C2
- XiangLing: C6
- Noelle: C6
- Lynette: C1
Later, I’m hoping to get C4 Lynette, C6 Kaeya, and C4 Amber (maybe C6). The rest of the constellations don’t help too much in my opinion.
я в ахуе
Diferrent of skill
Lol "STarTer cHaracTeRs OnlY" .
Then why you use that dendro girl and that anemo girl?
Forgot their names I've quit Genshin since very long time
👍
They are obtainable without wishing tho. Collei (dendro) from clearing Abyss Floor 4 and Lynette (anemo) from reaching AR25
both are starter ni 3.0 n 4.0..