Introduction to GLIMA (Nordic Wrestling) - Showcasing HEMA
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- GLIMA is a Viking martial art where the goal is to put your opponent on the ground and get away before they can recover. Four of Blood and Iron's instructors (Including show host Nicole Smith and head instructor Lee Smith) recently received their GLIMA instructor certification, and we decided to shoot a video while at the event. Nicole Smith introduces us to Masters Danny Hoskins and Briston Lowry, who give a very quick introduction to the world of this Nordic Martial Art.
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As a BJJ/MMA guy, this is very interesting to me. The concept of the winner being the one who lands a throw and disengages from a dominant position brings up some interesting thoughts and theories to me. I would assume that the reason that is how you win the match is because in war the person who ends up getting slammed the ground and can't get back up fast enough would just get trampled and stabbed etc. Grappling is so strange because it's SO similar, like, I've learned literally all of these techniques, however, every art has it's own flavor to it that just lets you know these arts have history.
Yes! While you didnt necessarily have to stand, the idea is to get far enough away from your downed opponent to be able to draw your dagger or rondel to go back in for a kill, or have someone else kill him.
Perhaps it's just me, but I'm envisioning ax finishes before getting up and escaping. In a battle, you don't want to have to look over your shoulder for someone you've just dealt with. For self defense today, this would be really good. Perhaps add a disorienting strike before escaping to ensure you aren't being chased.
Ever watched a greco match?
In Krav we do 2 on 1 and 3 on 1 drills where we start on our backs flat with 2 or 3 guys on us and the goal is to stand. Sometimes its just wrestling and submissions and sometimes we can throw strikes. Its very rare that two people can keep someone from standing for more than 15 seconds.
@Crystax reaper Yeah the worst place you can be in a group fight is the ground.
The "disengage from the enemy when they are down" instead of going for the submission, like it can be seen as sportsmanlike today, could also serve another purpose back in the day: while they are on the ground, you go for a weapon. It's an interesting flavour of wrestling.
I love the concept of breaking away freely. It makes it very clear who won all the while not making it about beating the shit out of an enemy.
I also like that the opponent has to be down while you break free so you don't just throw them and then immediately get on their knee and stand up
In war the loser is getting an axe in the chest
That's a like. GLIMA looks totally brutal! Interesting rules, neat concept.
Very interesting.
I can easily see this applied to battlefield combat.
+TheFilthyCasual That's the main idea actually. If someone was proficient at taking someone down, all you really needed was a second guy following around with an axe.
+Julian Schuetze
Yup, that's what I thought, the "disengage as quickly as possible" rule is a dead giveaway - the last thing you want is to be trapped holding your opponent down, with no way to defend yourself from his companions.
Imagin coupling that with a boot knife and some quick knife work inn the disengage...
its originally used by the viking warriors lol so yeah its pretty brutal
Surely better then most Kung Fu styles.
Similar idea to Greco-Roman wrestling, both coming from an age of extensive melee wars.
I was thinking the same thing
yes. note the idea is to take opponent down then *get the fuck back up off the ground* This isnt traditional glima tho.
in other words "end the fight and get away as fast as possible"
Apocalyptic Knights Only difference I see is there is no oil in sight and they are wearing clothes.
Except that Greco-Roman as we know it originated at the turn of the 20th century for the modern Olympic games. It was meant to be a combination of styles to make it more accessible to different wrestling traditions.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greco-Roman_wrestling#History
Actual greek wrestling known as pankration, focused more on ground fighting, and painful holds (submissions), wrather than simply tossing your opponent.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pankration
Finally, we are getting some western martial arts.
Of course! There have always been western martial arts, they're just not well known. Every culture from around the world--including European cultures-- has had to have martial arts for the same basic reasons east Asian cultures (Chinese, Korean, Japanese, etc...) needed them.
People forget that all styles of wrestling are martial arts. The same goes for boxing.
Swordfighting also countd as a martial art. Any, combative teaching counts as one I believe.
Here is an incomplete list of European wrestling styles that have no connection to Asia. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folk_wrestling
Boxing wrestling fencing top western martial these are historical European martial arts
Zane would have had a shirt but I accidentally ripped in it our match prior to the making of this video haha
Zane got his revenge. Don't annoy Zane :D
Bout time a HEMA channel uploaded some grappling.
There are quite a few Ringen videos out there
Jason Bright Thanks I'll have a look.
4:50 look at that beast takedown
he took down his ancestors aswell xD lmao
Really cool! Scared of wrestling, but excited to eventually learn and become more rounded!
PLEASE make more of these videos. Theyre the only ones of their kind about Glima and I would love to see more
This is super interesting. Most other defensive martial arts I can think of use some variation on submission as the win condition, but GLIMA seems far more defensive in that your goal is to put the opponent down and then escape.
Love the videos yinz upload! Keep up the good work.
Fits very well in modern self defense where the best tip is to run away.
But if you can't then here you throw them down, get away then escape.
Nobody would wanna chase someone who could knock the air out of you with a throw.
@@magnusm4 not to mention if you get thrown onto solid concrete. You gonna be happy if you have enoguh will in your body to breathe.Chasing someone won't really be your priority
In historical context, more like "kill the guy on the ground with a weapon", rather than "escape".
This approach of Pinning down and leaving is much more interresting for self defense purposes. Love it
also like the fact that with the position you end up with on the ground you can easily transition to jointlocks or chokes
Wow I’d love to learn this and combine it with Jui jitsu in self defense situations. I can see this being very useful in street fights, especially the first two!
I've only found a couple places overseas that do it now. I wish there was one in Texas, I'd drive up to a few hours for Glima or Laustak/Lausatok (I've seen it spelled different ways) lessons. That version of Glima, grounding opponent and backing off before they can recover, looks like SO much fun! I have an abnormally strong core, so I think I'd be pretty good at it.
Very interesting win condition.
nice job demonstrating the principles, plus some nice technique. respect from europe
Could we possibly get more? I love this kind of stuff
I swear i am going to save up and come here and train glima!
The pants-grip version is shown on Dr. Crawford's channel.
looks very similar to modern day wrestling with some differences. pretty cool.
Wow looks like my moves from my martial art style wicked
Very neat.
Why is there almost no leg attacks?
Really interesting concept of winning. Are there any other wrestling disciplines like this? I ask here because I know absolutely nothing on the subject.
+Lttlemoi Many competitions in medieval wrestling have similar winning conditions, or score geting up from the ground higher than for dominating on the ground.
Greco Roman
Lars Enocksen did these boys a disservice teaching them those løsetag moves. Lars is a bit infamous for making stuff up as he goes, and these techniques are great for self-defense but problematic if you plan to win an actual løsetag match. The whole point of the old løsetag throws is that you remain standing and make your opponent fall away from you so they can't grab a hold of your waist, legs or arms on the way down. According to my trainer, the match isn't supposed to continue on the floor at all - and indeed if the throws are executed properly, no floor combat is necessary. (... this is a style quibble, mind, as I'm sure those guys could win a match. I'm just also fairly certain that they are making it harder than it needs to be.)
As a BJJ and MMA guy, I did find it interesting that during their actual match on the video that the fight continued until the person on top was able to successfully disengage and that's when it ended. What that tells me is that the focus on the art was to slam the person and remain on your feet, just like you said. However, I think, just based on my experience (And idk anything about your experience with grappling), it's a lot more of a struggle to do such a thing than you're making it sound. Cause, I know for a fact that unless you're the slickest of ninjas, if you grab onto me and set up a throw, I'm grabbing onto you too lol
My instructor (Glima Instructor certified) Says that the entire point of Glima (Combat Glima specifically, back in 6 A.D.) Was to take your opponent down, and then get away from the opponent, so the guy next to you could put an axe in their head. There is groundwork in war, my man. Lars mainly does Combat Glima as I have seen, though I could be wrong. Which is always brutal, it /will/ have groundwork, because your opponent isn't just going to let you kill them/put them in a position to kill them.
I believe your trainer is unaware that there is Glima for sport, then Glima for combat, which is the actual 'art'.
Your teacher is correct about lausatök Claus, where did he learn?
Looks fun enough.
Where do you get that runic rash guard, that thing is awesome.
That's what I wanted to see was the bridge hip pivot, to gain upward position from the headlock takedown.
Fight like a viking. Nice. I hear that however, in Løsetag matches you cannot touch the ground without losing the match. So this is definitely combat oriented.
Man those slams look like they hurt. How can they just get up after that and keep fighting
Probably conditioning, doing this often will lead to resilience
They don't hurt at all. The force gets dispersed because they break their fall.
It's been said that if the floor of the octagon was concrete or even just the ground, then a lot more people would be training Greco-Roman Wrestling & Judo.. I think you could add Glima to that category
Why don't ufc fighters use glima
Because it's a less evolved version of American wrestling, the dominant art in the UFC, which is the style taught in American junior high, hs, and colleges. American wrestling is from catch-as-catch-can wrestling that developed in England and was brought over by colonists, which can probably be traced to Vikings. So in a way they do use glima techniques but pure glima is useless in an actual mma fight as it's pretty archaic. I rather know it over bjj though, because its principle is not to be taken down and disengage by using a take-down, which is the opposite of the bjj philosophy that assumes you'll probably be taken down so you should only train for ground technique. As a former wrestler I can tell these guys wrestled at least a couple years and are doing this for fun.
Super! Very nice and easy to learny
Exactly like scraping wae yer pals never thought it had a name but that’s brilliant gonna see if any of these Danes know it
I am Norwegian ever since I was 13 I could lift small cars rear ends completely off the ground, tires included, I discovered this with my little league coach's Datsun B210 accidentally, those cars had a lip I could put my tailbone under and lift, the car slid forwards until my buddy jumped in and put the brakes on and the cars rear end a,e of the ground. I tried out for Football I High school and on the 1st day after we lifted for our maximums I was put on 1st string cause I squatted 180 lbs more than our biggest senior who only squatted 300 but he benched 340 lol, I was 15 and benched 225 so it was not great but the squats they stopped at 485 lbs cause they didn't want to hurt me.
Watch for Wrestling of Andre Lignitzer,Twirch Ringen,Hans Talhoffer Ringen
Very nice.
glima seems an excellent example of me being 12 yrs old. Were it not for the sign on my school saying "judo for juniors", I'd say I had been doing glima for quite some time.
But this is the mainland version isn't it? Have a look in the Icelandic version which is more leg centric and imo more technical. No high amplitude throws inly trips and a fixed belt grip. For a Judo player like me it's a cool tool to train foot techniques
Could someone knowledgeable explain the difference between this and Greco Roman wrestling except the obvious get off the opponent asap thing - like how are strats and tactics different? Thanks
Very interesting
I´m curious for the reason why you do not advice to step through at 2:15 like you would in a classic headlock throw/hip toss like motion? Is it because its too dangerous to give him your back like you would in a classic hip toss/back step position?
Ik hou erg van het noorden !!!!
Traditional nice !
I want to learn
Someone explain the rules of Glima game please
Very very nice
I love his face when she said crash test dummy!
Feel bad for those guys. That floor wasnt padded
considering the historical nature of the sport, I wouldn't be surprized AT ALL, if training & practice are held on grass.
It's a wrestling mat tho
They practice on grass in Iceland. Well, the loose grip version anyway.
No padding on the floor?!
Cool video. Almost entirely opposite ruleset from traditional Scottish backhold wrestling.
also he uses alot of bjj terms and some moves in this video.
Es muy parecida a la lucha grecoromana ¿sera acaso algun estilo de lucha pariente o basada una de la otra?
I wish I can learn this online, but its really hard to find the lessons.
I don't have fb. but.. I'm an Odinist. Glima is new to me but I'm really interested. anyone you know do this in Maine? or New England?
Godt å høre kamerat. Sees i Valhall
it looks like bjj but without the finishing move, just leave the guy on the floor and get the hell out of there to avoid any other probable atacks from different source
Glima 👍👌👌😍🤗
I really want to learn Glima and more about the style. Please reply with some links or maybe someone I can get in touch with as I’m an amateur mma fighter. Thanks ahead of time! :)
Check out Glima USA on Facebook :)
I wonder if this is the same form of glima that Lars Magnar Enoksen teaches?
Can you do wrestling shots in glima?
This is just wrestling
father of catch wrestling
chaos lord which is the father of freestyle wrestling and professional wrestling, and shooto> MMA
Literally all grappling is wrestling
I use glima tactics whenever I get into fights with tweakers. Very useful.
Aaaaah yes the LIGMA
Nice
First move and some others look very similar to pangration moves. Is there any connection?
the first move is a basic Greco Roman wrestling staple. As Pangration is a modern synthesis of which Olympic wrestling is a part, it's not surprising that it looks similar.
It's a really poorly executed Greco Roman pummel lmao
hey I'd like to learn glima but I love in cedar rapids Iowa. what do I do??
Buy some videos from Glima USA and practice with friends :)
I have heard two claims: one, that Glima can trace its heritage all the way back to viking times.
Two: that Glima was invented in the 1900s, making it a modern martial art. My question is this: what evidence is there for Glima being as old as its practitioners purport?
Ben Tyrer well I think the same happens with historical sword fighting.....yes we are actually a pretty new sport(specially here in South America)but at the same time we try to recreate the fighting styles of the past (from wich we only have some manuscripts, and even in some cases, like fiores flower of battle, it's extremely vage and was probably used in conjunction with actual face to face teachings from the guy himself)so to put it simply it's a modern sport that teaches old styles of combat.
Ben Tyrer keep in mind I'm more in touch with Italian and German styles of fighting....so don't take my word that high when it comes to glima.....since I pretty much know nothing about the subject
The tradition has existed since Viking times, but the style practiced in Iceland today was formalized in the 1900', kinda like how the samurai surely didn't practice their weapon arts and unarmed arts as discreet styles, whereas Kendo and Judo are today definitely separate arts with no obvious connection.
Glíma can trace it's origin, although possibly has Celtic origins via the Celtic influence in Iceland, it was formalized in Iceland in 1900. I think most of the "glíma" you will find on the internet can find it's origin in 1990s when some random dudes found out that there was a martial art from viking times and they started just randomly making up what they wanted it to be, largely modern Greco-Roman wrestling with a "viking" sticker slapped on it.
how does one start a HEMA club? I have background in MMA, catchwrestling, judo, Filipino Martial arts, and hapkido
2-0 as an amatuer mma fighter
Pick a source you want to learn from. Get a translated book, video series (TH-cam counts) and buy the gear.
Then attract likeminded individuals that want to train :)
Also, nice salto.
So it escape style cool
Please do German wrestling I am half German German
So did the vikings have another art to teach submissions or did they just not know how to submit someone
Submission was not used because getting the person down is enough to mostly guarantee a stab in the neck to then back away. Remember that this was used in real battles so using slow submissions would leave you as an easy target on the ground for surrounding warriors
@@azkhoyo731 yeah I was just thinking since if ur unarmed u need to be able to take them out. Maybe learning submissions would be useful to make u more well-rounded? Not used primarily but then ideally you wouldn't be taking someone to the ground and grappling anyway so I thought it would make sense to go all the way and fully learn unarmed combat on the ground
@@pandaqu7675 Oh in an unarmed senario? Then they might of had something like a choke but they were known more for takedowns.
@@azkhoyo731 ok
No point in submissions, as loose grip Glima is meant for war. Get your opponent on the ground and let some of your comrades to stab him with a spear, a sword or an axe.. also.. good fucking luck submitting someone in armour...
I wonder if nordic fighters like Gunnar Nelson / Soran Bak / Jack Hermansson ever practiced this.
Doubt it. Glima is pretty niche
Why Oklahoma of all places
1.5 and then 1.4... That's a bit out of order, ain't it? Something get messed up somewhere?
+AVMUploads Nope, this is 1.4 of the showcasing HEMA series, the previous video was 1.5 of the sparring series. We may change the numbering scheme to make it less confusing.
Its no gi Judo basicaly
Could live without the ticking. Giving me Captain Hook like PTSD
I feel like alot of people are getting the wrong idea about old wrestling styles. Most historical wrestling styles were just used as a fun sport people would gather and participate in and then have drinks together afterwards.
This stuffs awesome, the only issue is that opponents wouldn't stand still or be very nice when you try to execute these takedowns, but eh, that applies to all martial arts. I can't wait to drink some mead
easy techniques against lesser men. not easily to lift a full sized man off the ground
you dont need to lift someone to take them down everytime? Do you train anything at all?
This better be in AC: Valhalla.
missed step 1: get drunk on mead before glima
The goal is to put your opponent on the ground and get away before they can recover.
Hmmm ... kinda like proof that the Vikings are not savage brutes.
Contrary to the mainstream belief
Not to be an ass but thats absolutrly false if you read up on some of the nonsensically sadistic things they would often do when pillaging. This idea fits more of a hurry up to pillage another day image.
Regardless, props to calling them proud. Vikings are not beyond honor.
@@stevenshoemaker1618 Do you think other people at the time behaved differently? There are texts describing the same sort of raiding, plundering slaughtering and raping from other groups of people. The thing with the norse was that they had been doing the same thing for centuries, trading and raid, but when they started doing it in Christian Britain, it was immediately demonised but the Catholic Church in Rome since it threatened their power. The majority of the Viking journeys were for centuries made in order to trade.
All the way up to the 30 years war in the 17th century, the rules of war was that when I city was captured, the winner was allowed to plunder and do what every they liked. Both the catholic and the Protestant armies killed, plundered, raped and often the towns were set on fire. Nothing new to how Rome described the Vikings, whom were most of the time peacefully trading.
This is just basic wrestling. You're from Oklahoma, you should know that
So, these glima instructors don't give a toss about injuring their training partners on a hard lino floor & eschew using training mats.
No thanks.
What are you talking about? They're on wrestling mats, it's perfectly safe
This is greco-roman wrestling lol
yeah except the objective was to hurt your opponent to the point that they could not stand up lol
@@Shoegazebasedgenre0. I see