damn I really appreciate the shoutout for JustSolid and me, we've been trying to tell people that these games have depth for years I basically agree with everything in the video, it's crazy that people would dismiss genuine criticisms about these games with "uhh BT3 never needed fixes and the game is a party game dumbass" when the systems being criticized actively reduce the combat system's fun (you can't tell me that pressing the same button 20 times in a static interval for a SC exchange is enjoyable). The community is insanely toxic towards anyone to the point where many BT2 and 3 veterans do not want to interact with the community at all, which is a shame. That being said, the game still has amazing potential, I'm sure with live service fixing issues like this, this could easily be one of the best Arena Fighters ever. Also I'm on Linux and immediately get a communication error on round start for online please Bandai fix this I don't wanna reboot my PC into Windows everytime I wanna play SZ
No problem Jagger I was really happy to see you JustSolid, GrandMasterHawk, & Paige because you showed the games were more than just " MASHING AND ITS A PARTY GAME" something I always EXPRESSED to people for a LONG TIME is that any game can have depth even if the game wasn't intended to be that way. And honestly the community is gonna be the biggest downfall for this game if it doesn't change I literally seen GrandMasterHawk make community posts having to explain himself just because he's " complaining about the game" in which he actually gives critque to it even as mostly a Tenkaichi 2 player myself who also played BT3 this game works HELLA BACKWARDS FOR NO REASON!? And I think the reasons us BT2 & BT3 players get treated the way they do is if people see anyone good or above average trying to play in their own way or by playing competitive people just get salty as hell FOR NO REASON LOL. I also believe if this game gets patched up and gets the Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2 treatment it will be WAY BETTER FOSHO and oh nah that Linux situation needs a fix ASAP I didn't evem know about that since I play on Console.
Yeah, for me it's insane that people who never touched BT3 will say something like "if BT3 came out today it would be just as unbalanced, It's a db game" and like, no? They think that just bcs It's a PS2 era game it has no online but BT3 online is still very strong (here in Brazil we have an official dedicated Discord server with tournaments and Ranks) and I know there are lots of those out there If someone plays or atleast watch BT3 competitive they know it's not even close to SZ, Skill Count take a lot to build up, Vanishing war depletes your ki way faster, movement is way smoothier, etc, etc I could go on for hours on why BT3 is mechanilly better But people see valid cristicism like this and think you hate the game for it, and it's the opposite, I love Dbz so much I wished for SZ to improve upon past games, but it doesn't really feel like it, wich makes me really sad It's not like I hate the game or anything, I'm still playing and having Fun, but to know it could have actually improved upon BT3 instead of what we got now, wich in Single Player content and game mechanics feels like a downgrade, is really sad As you said, hopefully they fix what they can with patch notes
@@xxyoshidaxx9239 Beautiful comment man and yeeh I REALLY HOPE this game gets fixed soon I already know half of my BT2 & BT3 homies dont even want to play this game with how backwards EVERYTHING WORKS IT FEELS LIKE! And shoutout to discord in Brazil and all of the overseas players its for them that I got much better at the series from watching TH-cam tutorials back in the day. We are just in this weird era of gaming now to where unless you GLAZE a game YOU ARE A HATER which is a weird ass mentality to have how are games gonna get better if we dont say nothin?
@@Jaitiy i had to install Windows just to be able to play ranked, and this is the only game that has made me do that it's so inconvenient that us Linux players can't even play the game properly
Literally a week ago peeps had nothing but good things to say about the game, that it was the perfect dbz game, but now out of the blue I'm getting like 20 vids in my recommended about how sparking is bad and community is toxic.
@@markkipanga1933 oh shit I didn’t even know there were that many videos on it. I been working on this video since release of the game and seeing how people reacted online. And yeah the honeymoon phase for folks ended for folks quick.
@markkipanga1933 the toxic part of the community reduced the honeymoon period. Cheesy tactics, going against the same 5 characters, quiting, and unbalanced MECHANICS are causing people to leave
Dont mention this in other comment sections btw a lot of people love to use the saying of " WELL THAT IS A OUTLIER" even then I know plenty of games that became competitive even when the devs didnt attend for it to be tbh. Cuz there always be a casual and competitive side for any games it's just now there are now more frequent good players people aernt used to it I feel.
My only problem with Smash is when the community wanted so desperately to be considered part of the FGC but once characters like Terry got added, they were like “WHO IS THIS GUY” and “WASTED SLOT WHO IS THIS” and complained about having to optionally do a quarter circle for a single move. That shit got me heated lol.
When queuing up for a ranked match, I thought that pausing the game would stop the search, so I was surprised when I put the game down to grab a drink and use the restroom, come back and see my character getting its ass beat
Bruh i like the game a lot. But damn they dont have half the shit that you can do on the side like with BT3 and 3. Where's survivor mode and all that rpg type shit we could do after finishing story? And then story mode is hit or miss too. So glad people are done acting like this shit is perfect. Online is fun, but thats not what had me addicted to BT2 and 3
Bro I lowkey forgot about those modes no lie and yeah after Episode Battle there is really nothing offline for the casual audience to really do tbh besides Custom Battles which it's aight to me could be better with some tweaks. Hell even the online having to deal with the input delay is gross LMAO
People can play whatever they want. So long everyone understands that certain characters are Easy Mode compared to other less gifted side characters that would actually take more skill to perform the exact same way. There's the easy characters and there's those who take skill. Simple.
Now THAT I can def see the arguement for. Cuz me I play whoever I want whether they are good or bad using Z Trunks on ranked singles. And I mostly face Fusions, UI, Z Broly etc characters who can esentially cheese you like crazy. If the mechanics were not the way they are it wouldnt really be a issue to me
Tbh the custom mode is just boring...there is no scores, no rewards for custom ones, if they made dragon balls drop from there i would play that mode, but thats just it, no real reason for me to go there in the first place.
@@KuwangerKRT I reacted just the same way as of all them when the game first announced. And MAN Kuwanger do they even have those TVs anymore shit feels ancient 😂
@@Codyslx excluding base frieza, he has 4 transformations. idk if you meant that ideally, it should be 3 max or if you’re suggesting everyone on the roster has only 3 transformations.
One issue that bugs me a bit is sometimes when I try to use my ultimate after a dragon dash, the controller only registers the input for perception even though I'm pressing r2 simultaneously with circle.
Input delay is atrocious. I hit a button 3x and my character freezes. I'm used to this because I used to be a for honor veteran. THAT game had to be played with a crystal ball.
It happens to me as well when i'm using android eighteen. But I use classic controls, So I will be walking backwards while hitting the charge up button while pressing triangle. But it doesn't put the all 3 commands together.
FAR too few people with this take. Interesting too how a WHOLE bunch of videos talking this goofy "iTs a CAsuaL GamE ONly, iDIoTs!" Are all popping out at around the same time, its maddening. Thanks for making this! Here's to the brighter future of Sparking Zero.🎉
Much love fam I'm a HUGE Tenkaichi lover so any game in the series I WANT IT TO DO WELL epsecially the kid me who always wanted to play more players. And yeah man sadly thats just the sad reality but I'm always gonna talk about my beliefs cuz I feel any type of game that can have depth.
@@Jaitiy RIGHT like I played BT2 game by MYSELF for YEARS and had an amazing time back then, to think that a version this cool with ONLINE is just given to us like a Christmas present and people are hating THIS hard?? Nah. Also, hate to plug, but I think you'd enjoy the most recent vid on my page on the subject. I feel like those of us who REALLY care about this game gotta stick together. I'll keep an eye out for your stuff my guy. :3
This is why I still like Storm Connections as an arena fighter game in comparison, cuz it gets balancing and its netcode is still functional and built on a system they've made over years.
Idk if the USA internet is bad, but here i have a max 350mbps internet that runs the game no problem, the "internet problem" i keep having is the newbs rage-quiting the game after i give them a beating, aside from that i never got kicked out of the game or even felt lag while playing (ofc i put my preference to 5+ connection strength). Talking about connection problems i remember xenoverse 1 and 2, i got disconnected there 8 out of 10 games i joined online...it was insane!
Out of ALL DB sparking zero YT’ers, This is the best, and most honest review of this game I’ve seen. Stuff that needs to be added, playing with characters you wanna play with and just playing how you wanna play. I’m definitely subscribing
The mechanic I wish they adopted from Raging Blast 1-2 was the ability to change your Supers. Like I get the Tenkaichi games only had 2 supers and 2 blast 1s. However, I think the fact that we can only have 2 supers is super limiting. Especially with characters like Goku where he needs a Kamehameha as one of the supers each form. Meaning he really only has 1 super that changes. I guess when I was younger playing BT3, I never understood how important stuff like Afterimage Strike or Wild Sense could be, and that’s why I liked Raging Blast’s system. Like imagine Goku Early with this moveset: Kamehameha, Kaioken Finish, Meteor Combination, and idk, Saiyan Soul. There will always be two Blast 1’s for all the characters but if I wanted to sub it out for another Rush Attack then I should be able to. RB 1-2 added so many new supers and it’s a shame only a handful of them made it into this game. I also wish the attacks were more cinematic like the older games and retained its better sense of impact. A lot of supers and ultimates feel very…off. Like I throw a spirit bomb and you just see particle effects pop up. No crunchy sound design, no cutscenes of the opponent struggling against your moves, nothing. Just particle effects and seeing your opponents health bar deplete. I understand that most people want to play online and a lot of cutscenes would disrupt the flow a bit but it’s a DBZ god damn it. The franchise has always been known to be over the top and that’s why we have such fond memories of landing Ults on people. Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm 2 rushed the Ults because of online play but when we got to 4, some of the Ults became long anyways and I’ve never heard anyone complain about it. I get that it would be a nightmare with trying to balance DP points if you can customize your supers but I feel like it could be done. These are just my personal gripes with the game.
Yeah being able to change your supers in this game would be dope af I also mentined the impact in the video as well cuz that's a MUST this game feel like their hitting like toys lol. Def feel like them having to rush out the game with Dragon Ball Daima kinda ruined the flow tbh
I love Z Broly. I’ve loved him since I was 10 years old and I always wanted to play him in a BT game.(I played raging blast 2 a little.) it’s disgusting seeing people use my favorite character to cheese. He has super armor so why can he do this spam bullshit in sparking mode??? It feels like I’m watching my lover get molested by thugs
I def understand what you mean honestly it's because how mechanics worked in previous game the devs didnt add it here so this game has HELLA cheese epspecially in ranked. My only hope they can patch it up otherwise..... there wont be much of a online playerbase besides the except few. And I feel the same way about SS4 Gogeta been playing that character in ALL the Tenkaichi games but they made him just CRAZY in this game damage & ki blast wise.
@@Supreme_Cipher Yeah man the devs NEEDS to communicate with us cuz we all been speaking up about the problems and I don’t think people want to wait much longer you know
Much love Dax when I get really get passionate about a Series I been playing for YEARS ON END I'm gonna be doing a LOT OF YAPPING LOL! And from most of the comments I got I'm glad to see people are actually realizing I just want the game to overall be better
Much love fam and yeah man It;s very important to me to see this game better as a OG Tenkaichi layer with the right tweaks this game could be really special. And I loved making the outro when I made its vibey as hell
@@HockeyM.M. Yeah man I been seeing hella vidoes lately of people wanting game to fail and it’s sad. As a Tenkaichi enthusiast this game has SO MUCH POTENTIAL it just needs to be tuned and fix the rage quitting problem. And I hope the devs are committed to making the game better for all of us 🫡
@@Jaitiy the canon stuff was half baked but those what ifs made up for it ill be real i screamed like a lil girl when i saw cooler in the tournament of power XDDD
28:07 Thank you! I’ve felt this day one and I see almost no one mention it. Tenkaichi 3 had so much more impact when you get hit with supers and ultimates. It doesn’t even look like the character is being hit with rush supers sometimes
The game is fun💯i still play it even after completing the story mode. My biggest issue tho is that before i play online i go into offline mathes and fight the cpu on strong/super to get down my super counter timing, only to get online and it doesn’t work AT ALL😂shii drives me nuts, like no matter what i cannot time it in online matches
@@animetoptier1734It will never work, even the vanishing has a different tempo. There is a input delay. So try to find someone to spar with, if you are focusing more to online game
8:16 this is like an issue in all genres with online tho. Even if theres "Ranked" and "Unranked" lobbies... people will go into unranked (i.e. casual) matches and act serious as fuck and call you trash and all that. Ill speak for myself but i game to unwind and im usually turnt... I'm not tryna sweat in unranked 😂
Oh I'm not saying that doesn't happen but I match rather to where they seprate the lobby choices to Player Matches, Endless Matches. & Ranked Matches tbh
The community is toxic but there’s nothing wrong with the game 🤷🏾♂️ besides the lack of customization and offline gameplay this is why cacs are needed because this game for me became boring
We can agree to disagree cuz personally to me the game has HELLA PROBLEMS gameplay wise so I don't agree with that imo. And as someone who played Xenoverse 2 for a long time I rarely played my Cac tbh until like near the end when I stopped playing and Cacs were just hella busted lol.
@@Jaitiy lol yeah we can agree to disagree and cacs on Xenoverse 2 are hella busted but it’s cool seeing all the transformations that they give us for it. Tbh when i would play the cast characters it was pretty boring.
@@AfroTsu created characters have their place but not here. The game is fine but the mechanics really need to be dialed in. As it stands the mechanics are kind of half baked. It may be based off ten k three , but it took all the good and left everything that balanced it all out
Another issue I have is the graphics, they look good, but I think the visual style of dbfz would be better. not to mention my biggest issue: the voice acting, again, I think the voice acting of dbfz is way better than sparkling zero I hate the way both the brolys sound (at least the English versions) Z sounds like a generic big Unga bunga grunt, and super is just an... a creature, he don't even sound tough. That's all I have to say
Arc System works always made games look great honestly it’s kinda hard to top that you know I think the visuals are fine for me just some characters look weird and the animation be funky at times. Also I play most of my Dragon Ball games in sub but I will def check out the dub for this comment
Another great idea would be Online Training mode. Imagine you and another player have infinite health and ki and the both of y’all can just train together in game, toggle settings and you guys can leave the game at any time.
100% agree I mention that at 23:17 it's def A MUST since the online feels hella weird in this game in general due to the input delay and dealing with Delayed Based Netcode
dude since sparking zero came out everyone's talking how to use neat little lore accurate stuff like it's brand new tech to abuse like broly's hyperarmor and abuse it(it's been there since the og games) and how different the mechanics are to your usual fighting game. i've played the heck outta the old budokai/sparking games so this just feels weird it's like another cummunity took over.. (still think budokai tenkaichi 2 is an amazing take on gt). likely competetive fighters since it has online play unlike the og ps2 ones where it was limited. The game itself is pretty fun regardless especially since what if's aren't hijacked by oc's and towa and mira shenanigans for once.
Great video my guy! Yeah I agree with you, at this point I'm sticking to my boi Uub simply because I like him and might just attempt to go ranked with him
Ayyy much love MIN as someone who just started ranked with Z Trunks myself I would suggest waiting a bit. Ranked gets pretty boring in this game cuz its non stop fusions, UI once, Z Broly etc when you get to a certain point. which I wouldn't mind if the netcode was better and the skill count didnt raise so fast
Phenomenonal video, man. I really agree with pretty much all the points you made in the video for adjusting the games mechanics so it can be in a better state. Although one thing I do want to mention that could cause a potential problem with what you brought up is having alot more things costing ki. Its a good idea however so many things in the game cost ki as is that the economy of it becomes skewed fast in retrospect. Just doing simple quick movement in the quick dash costs a good amount of ki along with the dragon dash depleting wayyyy more ki than it did in the previous installments. Them removing the free dash from the previous games really hinders movement and expression a bit with how you can approach things. Add to the fact that the maps bigger than they have been, you start to see the issue. It also makes the game devolve into only using burst dash to engage since the other forms of traversal cost too much sometimes on their on so adding more things to consume that gauge could just end up potentially exacerbate that issue. I'm not saying your fixes aren't solid, it's just they would need to adjust other things to compensate else the new meta would just be full power spam which it kinda already is with insta spark really. Maybe removing the cost of free dashing,making it cost way less or only burn ki if used too much in succession along with reducing the cost of dragon dashing could allow your fixes to really be well executed. Or bring back the free dash, lol. Just spit balling. Let's hope they can take a similar approach to what you suggested in the patch. I have faith in them.
Oh trust me and my BT2 & BT3 homies talk about how making the dash cost ki hindered the game tbh cuz now when your in the step in zone your options are limited as hell. Especially with how Perception works in this game to where players just mash it over and over even times to where I will sidestep it and my attacks still get caught. There's a patch in December and that's really gonna be the make it or break it patch for most people as most players are already annoyned as hell with this game to be real.
It’s so crazy how when the reviews for this game came out the fanbase as a whole just dismissed every criticism they had and said they weren’t Dragon Ball fans because, Budokai Tenkaichi 4 is all they wanted. And I do like this game, I love it really-but it has some major issues. I didn’t wait 17 years just to get a game that’s a “worthy successor” to BT3. I wanted more than that. Bad balancing, characters all feeling more or less the same, underwhelming customization, lazy co-op, controls simply just not working a lot of the time, and that *GOD-AWFUL STORY MODE?* There’s just a lot of flaws, and fans just saying “aw man this always been a feature, have you ever even played a BT game???” It’s like Elden Ring Stans (not fans), thinking even the objective flaws with the game are fine and you need to stop complaining because hey it’s always been a thing. And the fact that the game didn’t get 10/10 reviews and the community had a meltdown is crazy. *AND AGAIN THE STORY MODE IS THE WORST ITS EVER BEEN HOW CAN YALL DEFEND THIS????*
I had a comment recently of someone trying to go off on me for saying we should just be thankful we even have the game to begin with. BUT like I told him just because it took 17 years for the next game to come out doesnt mean it still cant get criticism and as someone who played this series longer than most there's A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH IT! I want this game to be the best it can be and said at the very beginning I'm not trying to hate on this game just want it to be better. And I agree with everything you said especially the fanbase cuz I dealth with it myself and my BT2 and BT3 homies dont even like the community itself for how toxic it is.
@ yeah, the notion that gamers should be thankful for something they’re being sold is nonsense lmao. Especially when the creators had as much time as they did, and had as much feedback as they did. Idk how somebody could be mad at someone else wanting the game to be longer.
Nah that’s fr. Only ppl ever crying bout cross play is pc players lol, ain’t no one tryna play with yall. Console players don’t mind if there’s no pc players tbh
Console crossplay should be in every game. Pc-console should be a case by case basis. I don’t mind it for co-op games but there’s too many variables for a competitive pvp environment.
Agreed with a lot of what you've said. I've been enjoying the game, but I haven't touched ranked at all because of how much of a mess it is. Super counters went from something that I never used in tenkaichi 3 to something that I constantly have to worry about. And that's mainly because of how unbalanced everything is here. I get tenkaichi wasn't a super balanced series, but this is another level. I tested this myself, ssj4 gogeta with all his buffs in tenkaichi 3 did around 18k with his ultimate. The average character in sparking zero does around 18 to 20k. It took gogeta over 100 hits to deplete a health bar in tenkaichi 3. In sparking zero it takes somewhere around 30 hits. And I didn't even use "power up to the very limit" to accomplish that.
BRO THANK U FOR THIS COMMENT I tried telling people I DONT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE CHARACTERS BEING STRONG Hell I used SS4 Gogeta in all of the games and he NEVER DID THIS MUCH DAMAGE BEFORE and as you said in the older games you had to do A LOT MORE to get the characters to KO. And Super Counter since they made the window bigger and the cooldown smaller for some reason, & it doesn't reset it basically it becomes something you HAVE TO LEARN IT in this game especially at the higher ranks. Why I asked for a Limitation mode and also Super Counters need to cost something fosho.
I enjoyed playing fusions in tenkaichi, while here I'm way more hesitant to pick them just because of how hard they hit. Another thing, I feel like I have to do team fights just so the matches don't end in an instant. I don't think people realize that 10k is a health bar, so imagine doing that kind of damage with basic melee and then an ultimate that does around 2 health bars. In a game where most characters have 3 health bars. This game focuses way too much on defense which never felt like a problem before. A basic block and Z vanish was all I needed back then. And if you were taking backshots everyone or a vastly majority of the cast had an explosive wave that could get them off you at the cost of a bit of your health.
Also fun fact BT2/3 if you count it as patches or some sort did have damage reduction on characters based on the Japanese or PAL versions for BT2 and diff hitboxes for BT3
@@frunkis2607 As a Tenkaichi 2 OG this game could REALLY BE THE ONE if the approached it correctly. And man TELL ME ABOUT IT been using Z Trunks in ranked and going against the meta wouldn’t be as bad if the mechanics were tuned you know?
This is exactly how I feel, it’s a great game it’s jus some of the mechanics allow people to abuse certain fighters for cheap wins… which of course people WILL utilize. After I reached the B’s I started facing the same 5 or 6 different flavors of cheese and it jus stopped being fun.
I mainly play with friends because people online always cheese too much. Having a team with people with unblockable ults. We also always a couple randoms to try out characters. Android 19 and gero kinda dope once you learn how to use them
Yeah Ranked is cheesey as hell and got boring for me hella quick no lie and 19 & 20 have a pretty simple gameplan for the most part so I think they aight lol
People complaining about Yajirobe and he is still the same thing as BT3, but the real problem are the levels. If they fixed levels, Yajirobe and 90% of the cheese of this game was fixed.
Yajirobe is still amazing after the nerfs since you gain skill count so fast in this game anyway tbh if they fixed the recovery and the stages for the game he wouldnt really be a issue most of the time honestly.
@@Jaitiy Oh, sorry, by "levels" I've meant the Skill Count Levels. There is not point nerfing Yajirobe if the Skill bar charges too fast. In BT3, Yajirobe was never high tier, and the senzu was still broken, because it took too much time to gain level 5.
26:58 nostalgia warning woul;dve been nice for the UNI song, damn. but fr this vid is amazing and I whole heartedly agree with all of it. imagine making a game in 2024 that's not crossplay
Theres so much offline content missing, The tower mode from bt3 amd the rpg mechanics mode..With a few tweaks it would have been amazing...The Story being rushed in that matter and the missing content and lack of many iconic stages is the reason to me why Sparking Zero is missing something
As a kid the extra story content provided the hours of playtime needed then the other modes were the cherry on top Creative mode alone cant carry what the old games usto have
The one thing I don’t like is how the community is going “oh my god the games such a flop after losing so many players!” Like they were expecting this to be some kind of live service bullshit like Fortnite. What felt like last week on everybody praising the game having 3 million copies now people are making fun of the fact people actually have interests and wanna play other games.
@@locodesert2 Also the fact there weee SO MANY GAMES that came out this month that after playing online people wanted to try something else. It also happens with most fighting games as well but people just want to see this game fail so badly it’s honestly sad tbh.
@ like that perfection channel who dick rides the game for any content to trash talk it. I even dropped the game a bit a week later cause of the new Sonic game dropping.
They are making changes and plan to add more during the lifetime of the game Once some things are tweaked : vanish wars (maybe change the timing getting faster and faster) Super counters costing ki maybe New modes (already teased by the latest survey) New maps and accessories Also pls bandai... make quivk play with a better match making , the room thing is only good with friends So yeah i am pretty optimistic about the game (ranked is pretty much like s1 fighterZ SO yeah❤
With everything im hearing my take is this - fight to win, learn what works and what does not, learn counters for difficult characters or be the difficult character. And keep the word balance out of all our mouths. Now get out there and win
@@Jaitiy I just lost to a guy spamming it. But due to how outrageously inconsistent side step is. Sometimes youll sidestep the full length, other times youll side step 2 inches and get punished for making the correct call because of how the targeting system works. BT3 had a much more fluid, responsive combat system with a solid target system. (and bt2 targeting system was toned down in bt3 bt3s)
@Jaitiy yea often i cant fly up I like to use it when they rush me But somtimes i cant fly up or down at all Or even rush clashes The enemy does a rush attack, i do a dash so we can clash and i just get hit by that I stopped doing it cause of that Now i just block or vanish Im bt3 i always clashed the rush attacks And deflecting beams should only cost 1 skill count
The whole story mode should have been a what if. Or they at least do all of Super’s storyline and skip Z. And as for costumes why not take a lot of the costumes from DB Heroes as well. They can give Broly a Cumber costume, ect.
I will say if your not focusing on online ranked theres a lot of fun to be had. Even just single player is pretty good. I usually smash cpus on anything but the hardest setting in fighting games. Then this on normal gives me a real fight. Granted i dont get to play all the time but the cpu are pretty good for a fighting game
Player matches I just actually be vibing out just dont like the way it is in this game tbh I rather be like ranked to where I can just find someone and they call it Endless Battles instead. Offline is kinda eh to me Episode Battle was ok, Custom Battle I don't really touch like that so I mostly stay online
Man. I was so heated when vegeta’s story ended at the buu saga. I wanted to play future gohan and future trunks mainly for the androids. I wanted to shout “this is for Gohan!” But overall, the game is pretty fun
@@MasterBlaster-69yeah. I really expected super 17 to be there day 1. I wanted to make a custom battle centered around the “Nobody can beat me when I’m super 17” meme.
Im a be honest, i disagree with the limitation mode where characters are balanced. I think DP battle was a really cool way to give incentive to using weaker characters without compromising the wacky unbalanced feel of tenkaichi. When i fight ppl using gogeta or UI it feels like a boss fight but once I knock out that one character ive basically won already cuz they throw out yamcha as backup or some shit
I said this as someone who really plays Single as opposed to DP DP I dont play cuz after facing one of my peeps it esentially just becomes a time out simluator and that's not for me personally. I can def see why people like DP though with the character variety since singles is kinda the same thing after a while
@ Yo good point though because literally me and this opponent ended uo fusing into goteta and vedito and as soon as the fusion boxing began the timer ran out. like they need to increase that shit cuz i thought this was a dragon ball simulator
they should bring back the budokai series and make that one the competitive, EVO type fighting game and keep the tenkaichi series as just a party fighting game
I think the game can be competitive it just needs the right changes to the mechanics cuz right now its a mess. Also I would Prefer Infinite World playstyle or Budokai 3 due to the rock, paper, scissors thing they had in that game and some things in Budokai 3 were BUSTED ngl
So first I want to say good video man, I guess I liked it so much I decided to give my opinion :D. Some points will repeat from other comments, but still. As one man said, after u done all episodes, bought all items, your zeni is pointless.Also, hope that in future they will add some costumes on all characters, coz now its like 5+ goku clothes and like others-0. Going into custom battles is fun, but as you said not having voice it doesn't have that magic. So now after U get platinum, only real fun option is playing ranked.I would love to play tournaments more, but daam is hard to find consistent tournaments, as if people aint playing. Oh and also, when u leave online room u are dropped to title page, why not back to search page... Personally I don't know how this game could make some moves that player would comeback daily if we talk about offline. Sorry for my paragraph of "blabla", but in the end I love the game, but when you get platinum in about a month playing regularly is a bit annoying :D And all those extras like I said ( zeni, lack of skins 1 start abilities) pointless. Its nothing but why we still get exp and zeni if we don't need those until dlc will come
Nah dont aplogize for it I really love reading anything type of comment whether its short or detailed cuz any feedback is great. And I def feel the same way about offline I 100% all the Episode battles & Custom Battles are ight to me I just stick to online for the most part and it is hard to find tournaments online which is unfortuanate as that mode is hella fun. Also love the suggestions here so I'll add it to my notepad thanks
I Agree with a lot of your points. A lot of the problem is in the lack of some balancing systems for some skills more then just the characters themselves. Z-Counter wars are so boring and last way to long, instant sparking into ki blast ultimate spam, afterimage strike. all need to get a look at. Though I don't entirely agree about some of your online takes. I love the idea of Endless. but being able to have seperate fights in the lobby or rematch while people are waiting defeats some of the point. In fighter Z I always would get frustrated when i'd make a lobby and then people would just endlessly fight in the bottom lobby. If i make a 4 or 6 person room I don't want them to just have seperate fights the entire time. I want a rotation of battles. If you just want quick matches go play [your version] of player match at that point. Otherwise mostly agree with everything. Game is great Limit and Limitless mode would be amazing from a competative stand point and should have limit as default for rank the "Skill" mode. and otherwise the game just needs to fix a few of the legitmitally unfair things that take away the fun from the game. Losing should still be able to be fun like you tried your best. no one wants to feel cheated.
I can def see why you likethe rotation so its pretty good arguement for that honestly tbh. And yeah game has so much love into it I would def love it to get better for the long term
@@Jaitiy You can definitly see all the love and time put into this game. I feel like the lack of things like Ki sickness could of even been just the creators not thinking it was fun and not forseeing the cheese that would come from some of these things. I don't think the game needs crazy balancing. but there are some things that are just not fun to do or play against that need to be adjusted both for fairness and to increase the fun of the game. doesn't need to be crazy balnced just fair. My favorite solution to the vanish war for example is after say 2 ki bars of vanishing [or some other set number] it goes into a clash rather then just vanishing forever. I think this solution also fixes the hypothetical Super counter war issue as after so many vanishes or super counters it just becomes a clash and auto ends. Lots this game can do to tweak and adjust things with out having to nerf characters
Fair & honest criticism, its important to judgdge things especially the things one loves for it tio become even better. I do like SZ but the hard to search for custom battle & the scene skipping story mode are bummers,(i cracked up when gohan became a greatape & instantly turned back) And only time chamber for local vs? (granted the arenas are more comlicated now but i got a mod for pc & to play with more arenas with the boys & it worked well ) As for online, Ragequitting having no punish is awful, im not much for MK but every fighting game should copy the "quitality" (the quitter explodes & the other wins)
The Quality you mentioned is funny considering as much as I dont enjoy MK1 as much as I did at a point one thing they always got right was for people actually ragequitting honestly dont get how other companies havent learned by now tbh. It sucks but the time chamber for VS was only addeed cuz people wanted split screen like crazy and because this game is in Unreal Engine 5 and this game has a lot more going I understand why they could only choose that map especially since it was never their intention to put it in more of a last minute ting tbh.
I wish there was a online PVE type thing for friends that want to take on a custom made boss or something that was the first thing i looked for when i bought the game for my friend because he doesnt like pvp.. (So a team players vs Ai type thing)This way you dont have to worry about going up against players who have way too much time on their hands.
Funny enough you said I believe the PC version actually have this since they can change things on that side I really wish I was a PC player instead console for this game man
Perception is the absolute worst thing, its easy to counter ofc but bro you get so many Circle button merchants and for my xbox guys the B button. Most times you can barely freaking fight bc dawg is just holding perception. Even if they are losing the fight you can still see em using the damn perception like dawg really???
@@Jaitiy yeah bro its ridiculous, I was playing a ssj4 gogeta the other day while recording for the channel you can just see him holding the button not tryna fight lol
Guys I am very serious if any of y'all hate Dragon Ball Sparking Zero you can give it to me I love the game but if any hates the game let me know cause I always wanted it but could never pay for it.
Love the game could and should be better though. 1. Ranked rage quitting or even honest disconnect should immediately count as a w for the guy who didn't get "connection issues" 2. Should be a filter for ranked solo matches to filter out op characters if you're wanting to play a regular character, I'm way better then most and yet I lose to ui goku just barely simply because he has 3 more health bars then my rosi very annoying losing because of opinion character rather then skill. 3. Input lag is terrible for controller and i play plugged in, should have never been a issue.
Honestly dont feel bad about losing to fusions, UI or Omen Goku, Full Power Jiren, etc the extra health bar and they are just overall better characters I main Z Trunks so I know how you feel since I have to work hard to get my wins against them. Ragequitting def gotta be punished and Input Lag and this game just doesn't make sense ngl tbh.
Nah dog there is a reason why the FGC dogs anime fighters, it's because Bandai refuses to give their games the attention it needs instead of relying on fanservice. The only reason why SZ is getting a lot of attention is because it's not just "Flavor of the season" anime that Bandai turns into an arena fighter for a quick buck, heck it's not even a secret that most of their arena fighters basically have the same engine. Why do you think people lost their minds when DBZF came out and they saw it wasn't handled by Bandai, hopefully SZ is a different story since its DBZ.
Oh trust I know why Arena Fighters get the treatment they do from other people I just don't like how the FGC treats people who wants to dive deep into Arena Fighters and this is also coming from someone who also plays fighting games myself.
I agree with what you and everybody else said. I love this game to death but there are alot and I MeAN ALOT that needs to be touched on, added in, and fixed altogether.
Ayyy whats good Chris and I def agree man the game has hella potential but WAY TOO MUCH to be fixed overall why I REALLY wanted to take my time making this hell the comments I even forgot to mention saves files being deleted for players & other things.
I like the game💯fr i could play all day win or lose i feel i always can add something to my arsenal to get better,buuut the super counters and button lags for online matches is annoying. Like if i go into sparking and do a short string combo to get my ULT off it’ll just do the perception stance
Give it time people the game just came out and just like xenoverse or every other fighting game it will be supported for the next five or ten years or so with multiple updates and DLCs it's not like they will abandon the game entirely while it's still fresh and new
Oh I just wanted to get this out the way as someone who played the Tenkaichi series for a long time. I def hope the devs support it like how Xenoverse 2 is treated
@Jaitiy will the developers are at least are listening to fans criticism of the game and they are doing the best they could so I guess there is hope there
22:36 i wish there was a surrender button as i have other stuff to do. that i might not have known prior. so just surrendering and doing it would be nice. but no, i just gotta let the guy beat my ass, then wait for the victory animation to finish. then leave. then go and do what i need to do. (cause for SOME FUCKING REASON. if you leave it. it will start another match. WHY)
This video was pretty much all my thoughts summed up nice and neat and I appreciate that, i hate that people think this game is perfect the way it is, when it's nowhere near as mechanically sound as Bt3. To me this game feels closer to raging blast with the sound design and feel. The overall movements needs to upgraded like it was in Bt3. 3 more things I wanna mention is that I think this camera is pretty bad, especially when locked off and you should not be locked off when you block an Ult, that's not a thing in the old games. The second thing is no custom supers or any customization at all and it makes me mad, by far the thing that disappointed me most, of all the things you take from raging blast you don't take the different types of supers and no colors or different outfits (Where's my black ssj4!? Can't get the original actor or my favorite outfit? that's so lame. Last thing is deflecting, I despise that i'm FORCED to reflect by just guarding when I wanna block, make it like the old games so I can at least only have to worry about the ult. It also makes me sick to my stomach that I can't deflect ultimates with super perception, if I could do that, deflecting beams would actually be worth the cost. But as for you my guy, you made an awesome video, we need more people like you 100%.
Nah thank you for the great comment man I just love editing/designing so I wanted to get ALL OF MY THOUGHTS OFF since the game released especially being a Tenkaichi veteran BT2 WAS MY GAME MAN! And from your comment I KNEW I FORGOT SOMETHING TO MENTION THE REFLECT it's not even worth the stocks to be used for it cuz in Raging blast you can just be like NOPE! I really hope someone at the dev team can actually look at this so I can show them hey I just want this game to be better for everyone and I DONT WANT THIS GAME TO DIE it has so much potential.
@@Jaitiy 100% agreed, I also forgot to mention that I think the single player content is also lacking, no Korin's tower, Ultimate battle or Sim Dragon really hurts, we do have custom battle which is cool, but it's currently a tedious mess.
And for someone who actually tells the truth. I'm already subscribing because unlike meat writers. Were you to say anything good about the game and nothing else you actually give criticism even if you like it.
I like call them the Sparking Zero Glazer Rangers believe or not LMAO. Like the fact some people in this community don't even like criticism given to this game is CRAZY WORK! In order for the game to get better we need people like me and others to speak up otherwise this game won't last in the longterm with how much everything is going on
They need to fix the dragon dash is too damn slow why doesn’t it have that super speed blast off effect it did in the previous games. The impact feels very watered down there’s less weight to them, bt3 takes the cake in that one. The tracking is abysmal. I hate when u do a beam clash both character appear mind air?? They need to fix that aswell
@@Pobaika Really great points man and yeah the movement in general in this game IS NOT IT! I just hope the patch In December really changes things cuz the game needs it BADLY!
24:18 strong characters gonna be strong, weak characters gonna be weak. Don't be mad when u pick chiaotzu and then get cooked by blue gogeta, they said it was gonna be unbalanced. You knew what you were getting into
Oh nah I get thay I'm more so talking about how in the older games the damage Gogeta did back then wasn't like the damage he does now tbh. But I saw your reply comment you all good LMAO
on a serious note though, referring to the community portion games are always going to have a non-competitive element to them that mf's can reference for their pity parties. even the most widely celebrated competitive games in the world have RNG mechanics or an unbalanced part of the meta that people just gotta sit through. this isn't just an issue with sparking, it's a problem with gaming in general. I agree that overly competitive players can put a bad taste in somebody's mouth, but people gotta realize that resources for getting better are more abundantly available than ever, and making a career out of gaming is more relevant than ever so motivation and ease of access to getting insanely good FAST is RIGHT THERE! no game is gonna get it perfect, but people online really tweeting like they the developers and with some of the takes y'all have to CHANGE THE ENTIRE COURSE OF THE GAME ITSELF because of a bad personal experience or ass whooping you received on the game bruh. I think that the game's developers had a lot on their plates to work with when making the game and for what it matters, they did a pretty good job and there's always flaws that are gonna be present even if they took another 5 years to develop the game. people need to get out their feelings, reflect on what they thinking and give actual constructive criticism and not just smoking packs of copium on Twitter to fix the entire game to cater to themselves edit: also people should win for getting rage quit on, or at the very least time the rage quitter out for at least an hour for first offense, 24 hours second offense, etc.
Honestly Bru that's my thing there's even people getting mad at me like " The developers been working on this game all this time and yall trying to hate etc" It's more of so I'm pretty much this game had to be rushed out to come out the same time as Dragon Ball Daima so there's a LOT OF THINGS WRONG WITH IT even basic things missing. And even when I said in the very BEGGINING OF THE VID I'm trying to make the game better people just ignore it LOL. This game has so much potential, fanservice, and visually beautiful but that doesn't mean I'M NOT gonna critque a game. And the competition state you made I def agree with it also not gonna lie most of these people coudn't be developers they wouldn't know what to do honestly but there is a differecne between actual feedback and just bitching. And Rage quits TELL ME ABOUT IT lol
To you're point of people saying it's not meant to be competitive and all that i think it's more they dont want the devs to pander to every whim of the competitive side like other devs do in games especially nowadays which can and has ruined the casual side of the game aswell so while i agree there are improvements to be made i don't want major nerfs or buffs to characters
Honestly of speaking of the other end from games I played since I REALLY love to learn the mechanics of games and LOVE to play games on high level and for fun. The devs mostly listened to the more of the casual side from my experience of playing games. And talked about more of the mechanics of the game that have to be fixed more than the characters. Also why I say from either side people should just let people approach how they want to & why I mentioned a Limatation mode so that way everyone can play on the same playing field as the meta already got boring for people. Love this comment btw and the ones I have gotten for having open discussions like this I expected more hate with this video than anything not gonna lie.
damn I really appreciate the shoutout for JustSolid and me, we've been trying to tell people that these games have depth for years
I basically agree with everything in the video, it's crazy that people would dismiss genuine criticisms about these games with "uhh BT3 never needed fixes and the game is a party game dumbass" when the systems being criticized actively reduce the combat system's fun (you can't tell me that pressing the same button 20 times in a static interval for a SC exchange is enjoyable). The community is insanely toxic towards anyone to the point where many BT2 and 3 veterans do not want to interact with the community at all, which is a shame.
That being said, the game still has amazing potential, I'm sure with live service fixing issues like this, this could easily be one of the best Arena Fighters ever.
Also I'm on Linux and immediately get a communication error on round start for online please Bandai fix this I don't wanna reboot my PC into Windows everytime I wanna play SZ
No problem Jagger I was really happy to see you JustSolid, GrandMasterHawk, & Paige because you showed the games were more than just " MASHING AND ITS A PARTY GAME" something I always EXPRESSED to people for a LONG TIME is that any game can have depth even if the game wasn't intended to be that way. And honestly the community is gonna be the biggest downfall for this game if it doesn't change I literally seen GrandMasterHawk make community posts having to explain himself just because he's " complaining about the game" in which he actually gives critque to it even as mostly a Tenkaichi 2 player myself who also played BT3 this game works HELLA BACKWARDS FOR NO REASON!? And I think the reasons us BT2 & BT3 players get treated the way they do is if people see anyone good or above average trying to play in their own way or by playing competitive people just get salty as hell FOR NO REASON LOL.
I also believe if this game gets patched up and gets the Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2 treatment it will be WAY BETTER FOSHO and oh nah that Linux situation needs a fix ASAP I didn't evem know about that since I play on Console.
Yeah, for me it's insane that people who never touched BT3 will say something like "if BT3 came out today it would be just as unbalanced, It's a db game" and like, no?
They think that just bcs It's a PS2 era game it has no online but BT3 online is still very strong (here in Brazil we have an official dedicated Discord server with tournaments and Ranks) and I know there are lots of those out there
If someone plays or atleast watch BT3 competitive they know it's not even close to SZ, Skill Count take a lot to build up, Vanishing war depletes your ki way faster, movement is way smoothier, etc, etc I could go on for hours on why BT3 is mechanilly better
But people see valid cristicism like this and think you hate the game for it, and it's the opposite, I love Dbz so much I wished for SZ to improve upon past games, but it doesn't really feel like it, wich makes me really sad
It's not like I hate the game or anything, I'm still playing and having Fun, but to know it could have actually improved upon BT3 instead of what we got now, wich in Single Player content and game mechanics feels like a downgrade, is really sad
As you said, hopefully they fix what they can with patch notes
@@xxyoshidaxx9239 Beautiful comment man and yeeh I REALLY HOPE this game gets fixed soon I already know half of my BT2 & BT3 homies dont even want to play this game with how backwards EVERYTHING WORKS IT FEELS LIKE! And shoutout to discord in Brazil and all of the overseas players its for them that I got much better at the series from watching TH-cam tutorials back in the day. We are just in this weird era of gaming now to where unless you GLAZE a game YOU ARE A HATER which is a weird ass mentality to have how are games gonna get better if we dont say nothin?
@@Jaitiy i had to install Windows just to be able to play ranked, and this is the only game that has made me do that
it's so inconvenient that us Linux players can't even play the game properly
Fr I’m so pissed I have to use windows just because majority of devs don’t treat Linux users like people.
Literally a week ago peeps had nothing but good things to say about the game, that it was the perfect dbz game, but now out of the blue I'm getting like 20 vids in my recommended about how sparking is bad and community is toxic.
@@markkipanga1933 oh shit I didn’t even know there were that many videos on it. I been working on this video since release of the game and seeing how people reacted online. And yeah the honeymoon phase for folks ended for folks quick.
@@Jaitiy , as I remember isn't the honey moon phase at least 3-6 months, sparking had like 2 weeks before the devoice papers.
@markkipanga1933 passionate players man
@markkipanga1933 the toxic part of the community reduced the honeymoon period. Cheesy tactics, going against the same 5 characters, quiting, and unbalanced MECHANICS are causing people to leave
It’s called the honeymoon phase and it is GONE
Yeah the hatred on Sparking Zero being a party game is just the Smash Bros cycle all over again lmao
Dont mention this in other comment sections btw a lot of people love to use the saying of " WELL THAT IS A OUTLIER" even then I know plenty of games that became competitive even when the devs didnt attend for it to be tbh. Cuz there always be a casual and competitive side for any games it's just now there are now more frequent good players people aernt used to it I feel.
My only problem with Smash is when the community wanted so desperately to be considered part of the FGC but once characters like Terry got added, they were like “WHO IS THIS GUY” and “WASTED SLOT WHO IS THIS” and complained about having to optionally do a quarter circle for a single move. That shit got me heated lol.
sparking zero customization: *RIPPED CLOTHING* (priced at ninety thousand zeni)
More like they made it ONE MILLION ZENI I DONT GOT THAT MUCH BREAD
Yep realistic, designer jeans costing like $100+ for ripped denim
When queuing up for a ranked match, I thought that pausing the game would stop the search, so I was surprised when I put the game down to grab a drink and use the restroom, come back and see my character getting its ass beat
It honestly happens WAY MORE THAN YOU THINK IT DOES I literally had matches in ranked where people were AFK so I def get.
Did I fight you? cuz this might explain why i keep dunking on AFK people 😂
Don't queue if you need to go
Bruh i like the game a lot. But damn they dont have half the shit that you can do on the side like with BT3 and 3. Where's survivor mode and all that rpg type shit we could do after finishing story? And then story mode is hit or miss too. So glad people are done acting like this shit is perfect. Online is fun, but thats not what had me addicted to BT2 and 3
Also y'all niggas crying about someone picking top tier would not last in traditional "real" fighting games
Bro I lowkey forgot about those modes no lie and yeah after Episode Battle there is really nothing offline for the casual audience to really do tbh besides Custom Battles which it's aight to me could be better with some tweaks. Hell even the online having to deal with the input delay is gross LMAO
Leaving a comment to come back later 💪. We really need an endless mode
People can play whatever they want. So long everyone understands that certain characters are Easy Mode compared to other less gifted side characters that would actually take more skill to perform the exact same way. There's the easy characters and there's those who take skill. Simple.
Now THAT I can def see the arguement for. Cuz me I play whoever I want whether they are good or bad using Z Trunks on ranked singles. And I mostly face Fusions, UI, Z Broly etc characters who can esentially cheese you like crazy. If the mechanics were not the way they are it wouldnt really be a issue to me
Finally some realistic honest positive feed back, great video my boy keep ‘Em coming 😊
Much love Tae I feel its always important for people to understand that criticism is what needed to make the games better as a whole
literally nothing to do on this game after you play the story they need quest just xenoverse does
Ahhhh I can def see that for some people really good suggestion man. Also you didn't like Custom battles as much?
Facts. Custom Battle is a bit haphazard with its pre-selected dialogue and isn’t as fun as Ultimate Battle Mode in BT3.
you know this is an tenkaichi game aand xenoverse game right?
They need more customization options for basic matches, like health sliders. More modes like an rpg esque mode or something
Tbh the custom mode is just boring...there is no scores, no rewards for custom ones, if they made dragon balls drop from there i would play that mode, but thats just it, no real reason for me to go there in the first place.
Those clips of the trailer with the CTR TV really sends me back 😭😭
@@KuwangerKRT I reacted just the same way as of all them when the game first announced. And MAN Kuwanger do they even have those TVs anymore shit feels ancient 😂
It’s kinda of weird that Goku (Super) doesn’t have ultra instinct and that it’s a separate character
I can def see your point in that
Nah it's totally fair. 3 transformations max per character.
@@Codyslx excluding base frieza, he has 4 transformations. idk if you meant that ideally, it should be 3 max or if you’re suggesting everyone on the roster has only 3 transformations.
@@vietnguyen2293 leave my xenophobic emperor alone
One issue that bugs me a bit is sometimes when I try to use my ultimate after a dragon dash, the controller only registers the input for perception even though I'm pressing r2 simultaneously with circle.
Thats actually weird I'm not gonna lie but honestly it wouldn't surprise me hella things to fix for this game honestly
Input delay is atrocious. I hit a button 3x and my character freezes. I'm used to this because I used to be a for honor veteran. THAT game had to be played with a crystal ball.
It happens to me as well when i'm using android eighteen. But I use classic controls, So I will be walking backwards while hitting the charge up button while pressing triangle. But it doesn't put the all 3 commands together.
@@BeyondAIR15crystal ball is wild yet accurate 💀
FAR too few people with this take. Interesting too how a WHOLE bunch of videos talking this goofy "iTs a CAsuaL GamE ONly, iDIoTs!" Are all popping out at around the same time, its maddening.
Thanks for making this! Here's to the brighter future of Sparking Zero.🎉
Much love fam I'm a HUGE Tenkaichi lover so any game in the series I WANT IT TO DO WELL epsecially the kid me who always wanted to play more players. And yeah man sadly thats just the sad reality but I'm always gonna talk about my beliefs cuz I feel any type of game that can have depth.
@@Jaitiy RIGHT like I played BT2 game by MYSELF for YEARS and had an amazing time back then, to think that a version this cool with ONLINE is just given to us like a Christmas present and people are hating THIS hard?? Nah.
Also, hate to plug, but I think you'd enjoy the most recent vid on my page on the subject. I feel like those of us who REALLY care about this game gotta stick together. I'll keep an eye out for your stuff my guy. :3
Humans will always be Humans.
Realest shit this quote gotta be on a T Shirt
I see where Zamasu was coming from
I see where Thanos was coming from@@kaiturner8879
@@Jaitiy shii sound goofy asf my boy 😂
This is why I still like Storm Connections as an arena fighter game in comparison, cuz it gets balancing and its netcode is still functional and built on a system they've made over years.
Storm Connections def not for me glad you are enjoying it yourself though and I heard the game is in a way better state now.
Idk if the USA internet is bad, but here i have a max 350mbps internet that runs the game no problem, the "internet problem" i keep having is the newbs rage-quiting the game after i give them a beating, aside from that i never got kicked out of the game or even felt lag while playing (ofc i put my preference to 5+ connection strength). Talking about connection problems i remember xenoverse 1 and 2, i got disconnected there 8 out of 10 games i joined online...it was insane!
@@andrei1246How USA Internet can be bad but I, using a VPN from Perú, can play with people from Japan without lag or delay?
Out of ALL DB sparking zero YT’ers, This is the best, and most honest review of this game I’ve seen. Stuff that needs to be added, playing with characters you wanna play with and just playing how you wanna play.
I’m definitely subscribing
The mechanic I wish they adopted from Raging Blast 1-2 was the ability to change your Supers. Like I get the Tenkaichi games only had 2 supers and 2 blast 1s. However, I think the fact that we can only have 2 supers is super limiting. Especially with characters like Goku where he needs a Kamehameha as one of the supers each form. Meaning he really only has 1 super that changes. I guess when I was younger playing BT3, I never understood how important stuff like Afterimage Strike or Wild Sense could be, and that’s why I liked Raging Blast’s system. Like imagine Goku Early with this moveset: Kamehameha, Kaioken Finish, Meteor Combination, and idk, Saiyan Soul. There will always be two Blast 1’s for all the characters but if I wanted to sub it out for another Rush Attack then I should be able to. RB 1-2 added so many new supers and it’s a shame only a handful of them made it into this game.
I also wish the attacks were more cinematic like the older games and retained its better sense of impact. A lot of supers and ultimates feel very…off. Like I throw a spirit bomb and you just see particle effects pop up. No crunchy sound design, no cutscenes of the opponent struggling against your moves, nothing. Just particle effects and seeing your opponents health bar deplete.
I understand that most people want to play online and a lot of cutscenes would disrupt the flow a bit but it’s a DBZ god damn it. The franchise has always been known to be over the top and that’s why we have such fond memories of landing Ults on people. Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm 2 rushed the Ults because of online play but when we got to 4, some of the Ults became long anyways and I’ve never heard anyone complain about it.
I get that it would be a nightmare with trying to balance DP points if you can customize your supers but I feel like it could be done. These are just my personal gripes with the game.
Yeah being able to change your supers in this game would be dope af I also mentined the impact in the video as well cuz that's a MUST this game feel like their hitting like toys lol. Def feel like them having to rush out the game with Dragon Ball Daima kinda ruined the flow tbh
Superb video as always bro🫡💯🔥 thanks for letting me be apart of it!!🙌🏾
Much love Rei had to make sure to get off all my thoughts and no problem more collabs with us will happen fosho 🫡
I love Z Broly. I’ve loved him since I was 10 years old and I always wanted to play him in a BT game.(I played raging blast 2 a little.) it’s disgusting seeing people use my favorite character to cheese. He has super armor so why can he do this spam bullshit in sparking mode??? It feels like I’m watching my lover get molested by thugs
I def understand what you mean honestly it's because how mechanics worked in previous game the devs didnt add it here so this game has HELLA cheese epspecially in ranked. My only hope they can patch it up otherwise..... there wont be much of a online playerbase besides the except few. And I feel the same way about SS4 Gogeta been playing that character in ALL the Tenkaichi games but they made him just CRAZY in this game damage & ki blast wise.
That is a gross exaggeration...go touch some grass man, jeez
This game had so much potential, man!
@@Supreme_Cipher Yeah man the devs NEEDS to communicate with us cuz we all been speaking up about the problems and I don’t think people want to wait much longer you know
W mans!! Love the Effort and time you put in!
Much love Dax when I get really get passionate about a Series I been playing for YEARS ON END I'm gonna be doing a LOT OF YAPPING LOL! And from most of the comments I got I'm glad to see people are actually realizing I just want the game to overall be better
W vid, we gotta box again on sparking bro.
MY BROTHA LOU you know I'm always down again to play whenever we had irl anime fights and fighting good players helps me get better in the longrun.
This was the best rant i saw so far
Good ideas to fix it and not too winny bout it
Btw like the outro
Nice to hear some opinions
Much love fam and yeah man It;s very important to me to see this game better as a OG Tenkaichi layer with the right tweaks this game could be really special. And I loved making the outro when I made its vibey as hell
its' so refreshing to see someone being brutally honest and not just glazing but clearly showing he likes the game and wants it to succeed
@@HockeyM.M. Yeah man I been seeing hella vidoes lately of people wanting game to fail and it’s sad. As a Tenkaichi enthusiast this game has SO MUCH POTENTIAL it just needs to be tuned and fix the rage quitting problem. And I hope the devs are committed to making the game better for all of us 🫡
The hype on that announcement trailer was unreal 😮💨
@@M.U.5 It def was a crazy for everyone around the world at the time I myself thought it was fake at first how time flies honestly
Sent me chills!
im a big fan of this game but goddamn that story mode did NOT blow my socks off
@@pandupsko7127 Def was pretty underwhelming for me when I played it glad the what ifs are there otherwise I wouldn’t even play it tbh
@@Jaitiy the canon stuff was half baked but those what ifs made up for it ill be real i screamed like a lil girl when i saw cooler in the tournament of power XDDD
Costum battles should be playable with friends and who ever wins gets a Cut scene of their victory
28:07 Thank you! I’ve felt this day one and I see almost no one mention it. Tenkaichi 3 had so much more impact when you get hit with supers and ultimates. It doesn’t even look like the character is being hit with rush supers sometimes
I have 127 hours in this game and 800+ matches played and I wouldn't change a thing. Other than Yaji senzu beans😂
Ayyy if you are having fun all that matters
The game is fun💯i still play it even after completing the story mode. My biggest issue tho is that before i play online i go into offline mathes and fight the cpu on strong/super to get down my super counter timing, only to get online and it doesn’t work AT ALL😂shii drives me nuts, like no matter what i cannot time it in online matches
Finally someone with common sense
@@animetoptier1734It will never work, even the vanishing has a different tempo. There is a input delay. So try to find someone to spar with, if you are focusing more to online game
8:16 this is like an issue in all genres with online tho. Even if theres "Ranked" and "Unranked" lobbies... people will go into unranked (i.e. casual) matches and act serious as fuck and call you trash and all that.
Ill speak for myself but i game to unwind and im usually turnt... I'm not tryna sweat in unranked 😂
Oh I'm not saying that doesn't happen but I match rather to where they seprate the lobby choices to Player Matches, Endless Matches. & Ranked Matches tbh
The community is toxic but there’s nothing wrong with the game 🤷🏾♂️ besides the lack of customization and offline gameplay this is why cacs are needed because this game for me became boring
We can agree to disagree cuz personally to me the game has HELLA PROBLEMS gameplay wise so I don't agree with that imo. And as someone who played Xenoverse 2 for a long time I rarely played my Cac tbh until like near the end when I stopped playing and Cacs were just hella busted lol.
@@Jaitiy lol yeah we can agree to disagree and cacs on Xenoverse 2 are hella busted but it’s cool seeing all the transformations that they give us for it. Tbh when i would play the cast characters it was pretty boring.
@@AfroTsu created characters have their place but not here.
The game is fine but the mechanics really need to be dialed in. As it stands the mechanics are kind of half baked. It may be based off ten k three , but it took all the good and left everything that balanced it all out
Another issue I have is the graphics, they look good, but I think the visual style of dbfz would be better.
not to mention my biggest issue: the voice acting, again, I think the voice acting of dbfz is way better than sparkling zero I hate the way both the brolys sound (at least the English versions) Z sounds like a generic big Unga bunga grunt, and super is just an... a creature, he don't even sound tough. That's all I have to say
Arc System works always made games look great honestly it’s kinda hard to top that you know I think the visuals are fine for me just some characters look weird and the animation be funky at times. Also I play most of my Dragon Ball games in sub but I will def check out the dub for this comment
About Broly's voice you should thank Funimation for firing Vic for being a white Christian male.
Dbfz style for this game would be hell for developers and for all their work the product would be inconsistent and bad
Another great idea would be Online Training mode.
Imagine you and another player have infinite health and ki and the both of y’all can just train together in game, toggle settings and you guys can leave the game at any time.
100% agree I mention that at 23:17 it's def A MUST since the online feels hella weird in this game in general due to the input delay and dealing with Delayed Based Netcode
dude since sparking zero came out everyone's talking how to use neat little lore accurate stuff like it's brand new tech to abuse like broly's hyperarmor and abuse it(it's been there since the og games) and how different the mechanics are to your usual fighting game.
i've played the heck outta the old budokai/sparking games so this just feels weird it's like another cummunity took over.. (still think budokai tenkaichi 2 is an amazing take on gt).
likely competetive fighters since it has online play unlike the og ps2 ones where it was limited.
The game itself is pretty fun regardless especially since what if's aren't hijacked by oc's and towa and mira shenanigans for once.
What's the music you used throughout the video? Could you give the links to each one please?
27:00 pls as a fellow editor what is that ost 🙏🏽 and also take super counters out the game or make revenge counter stronger
Seth theme from Unist fam and 100% need to make revenge counter and super counter def needs to take some sort of resource
Great video man!!
You are amazing for the Stellar Blade music! ❤
Of course Stellar Blades was one of my fav games I played this year and I really love that games ost
Great video my guy! Yeah I agree with you, at this point I'm sticking to my boi Uub simply because I like him and might just attempt to go ranked with him
Ayyy much love MIN as someone who just started ranked with Z Trunks myself I would suggest waiting a bit. Ranked gets pretty boring in this game cuz its non stop fusions, UI once, Z Broly etc when you get to a certain point. which I wouldn't mind if the netcode was better and the skill count didnt raise so fast
Just saying about the what ifs, the piccolo vs frieza one only gives you 45 seconds to defeat 3rd form freiza. Its ridiculous and I hate it.
GOAT dropped another banger but are we surprised
NO U THE GOAT BRU So are you surprised AHEM👀
@@Jaitiy I be setting my monthly calendar for the Jaitiy drops
Phenomenonal video, man. I really agree with pretty much all the points you made in the video for adjusting the games mechanics so it can be in a better state. Although one thing I do want to mention that could cause a potential problem with what you brought up is having alot more things costing ki. Its a good idea however so many things in the game cost ki as is that the economy of it becomes skewed fast in retrospect. Just doing simple quick movement in the quick dash costs a good amount of ki along with the dragon dash depleting wayyyy more ki than it did in the previous installments. Them removing the free dash from the previous games really hinders movement and expression a bit with how you can approach things. Add to the fact that the maps bigger than they have been, you start to see the issue. It also makes the game devolve into only using burst dash to engage since the other forms of traversal cost too much sometimes on their on so adding more things to consume that gauge could just end up potentially exacerbate that issue. I'm not saying your fixes aren't solid, it's just they would need to adjust other things to compensate else the new meta would just be full power spam which it kinda already is with insta spark really. Maybe removing the cost of free dashing,making it cost way less or only burn ki if used too much in succession along with reducing the cost of dragon dashing could allow your fixes to really be well executed. Or bring back the free dash, lol. Just spit balling. Let's hope they can take a similar approach to what you suggested in the patch. I have faith in them.
Oh trust me and my BT2 & BT3 homies talk about how making the dash cost ki hindered the game tbh cuz now when your in the step in zone your options are limited as hell. Especially with how Perception works in this game to where players just mash it over and over even times to where I will sidestep it and my attacks still get caught. There's a patch in December and that's really gonna be the make it or break it patch for most people as most players are already annoyned as hell with this game to be real.
It’s so crazy how when the reviews for this game came out the fanbase as a whole just dismissed every criticism they had and said they weren’t Dragon Ball fans because, Budokai Tenkaichi 4 is all they wanted. And I do like this game, I love it really-but it has some major issues.
I didn’t wait 17 years just to get a game that’s a “worthy successor” to BT3. I wanted more than that. Bad balancing, characters all feeling more or less the same, underwhelming customization, lazy co-op, controls simply just not working a lot of the time, and that *GOD-AWFUL STORY MODE?* There’s just a lot of flaws, and fans just saying “aw man this always been a feature, have you ever even played a BT game???”
It’s like Elden Ring Stans (not fans), thinking even the objective flaws with the game are fine and you need to stop complaining because hey it’s always been a thing. And the fact that the game didn’t get 10/10 reviews and the community had a meltdown is crazy.
*AND AGAIN THE STORY MODE IS THE WORST ITS EVER BEEN HOW CAN YALL DEFEND THIS????*
I had a comment recently of someone trying to go off on me for saying we should just be thankful we even have the game to begin with. BUT like I told him just because it took 17 years for the next game to come out doesnt mean it still cant get criticism and as someone who played this series longer than most there's A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH IT! I want this game to be the best it can be and said at the very beginning I'm not trying to hate on this game just want it to be better. And I agree with everything you said especially the fanbase cuz I dealth with it myself and my BT2 and BT3 homies dont even like the community itself for how toxic it is.
@ yeah, the notion that gamers should be thankful for something they’re being sold is nonsense lmao. Especially when the creators had as much time as they did, and had as much feedback as they did. Idk how somebody could be mad at someone else wanting the game to be longer.
Go play Kakarot if the story mode is such a problem I much rather they focus on more important stuff
The base story is bad yes, but the what ifs make it actually worth playing
I hate cross play because they always have hackers or modders that plays online and ruins the gameplay experience
I can def see that fosho even though I REALLY wanted it on release this game has WAY TOO MUCH TO FIX RN
Nah that’s fr. Only ppl ever crying bout cross play is pc players lol, ain’t no one tryna play with yall. Console players don’t mind if there’s no pc players tbh
Console crossplay should be in every game. Pc-console should be a case by case basis. I don’t mind it for co-op games but there’s too many variables for a competitive pvp environment.
Agreed with a lot of what you've said. I've been enjoying the game, but I haven't touched ranked at all because of how much of a mess it is.
Super counters went from something that I never used in tenkaichi 3 to something that I constantly have to worry about. And that's mainly because of how unbalanced everything is here.
I get tenkaichi wasn't a super balanced series, but this is another level. I tested this myself, ssj4 gogeta with all his buffs in tenkaichi 3 did around 18k with his ultimate. The average character in sparking zero does around 18 to 20k. It took gogeta over 100 hits to deplete a health bar in tenkaichi 3. In sparking zero it takes somewhere around 30 hits. And I didn't even use "power up to the very limit" to accomplish that.
BRO THANK U FOR THIS COMMENT I tried telling people I DONT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE CHARACTERS BEING STRONG Hell I used SS4 Gogeta in all of the games and he NEVER DID THIS MUCH DAMAGE BEFORE and as you said in the older games you had to do A LOT MORE to get the characters to KO. And Super Counter since they made the window bigger and the cooldown smaller for some reason, & it doesn't reset it basically it becomes something you HAVE TO LEARN IT in this game especially at the higher ranks. Why I asked for a Limitation mode and also Super Counters need to cost something fosho.
I enjoyed playing fusions in tenkaichi, while here I'm way more hesitant to pick them just because of how hard they hit. Another thing, I feel like I have to do team fights just so the matches don't end in an instant. I don't think people realize that 10k is a health bar, so imagine doing that kind of damage with basic melee and then an ultimate that does around 2 health bars. In a game where most characters have 3 health bars. This game focuses way too much on defense which never felt like a problem before. A basic block and Z vanish was all I needed back then. And if you were taking backshots everyone or a vastly majority of the cast had an explosive wave that could get them off you at the cost of a bit of your health.
Good vid keep the Tenkaichi stuff up
Also fun fact BT2/3 if you count it as patches or some sort did have damage reduction on characters based on the Japanese or PAL versions for BT2 and diff hitboxes for BT3
@@justsolid3201 Ayy much love Solid and OH REALLY that’s actually information I did not know you learn something new everyday.
The Goats back
Nah thats all you Coded no lie cant wait for us to collab on the Bleach videos when that drops👀
@@Jaitiy They not ready for that lol
Very fun game, I agree with it needing more time in the oven to expand on some things (the identical repeat costumes for one)
I'll wait for the Dragon Ball Z Budokai 4 fan mod. Bamco has shamelessly become the Ubisoft of Japan and that isn't gonna change anytime soon.
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Just the combos for me it feels who can hit square faster
Its also cuz the game will make your character stop attacking randomly and the input delay cooks me online so I understand this
Love this game but i almost hate it more because of how lame the meta and cheese gets
@@frunkis2607 As a Tenkaichi 2 OG this game could REALLY BE THE ONE if the approached it correctly. And man TELL ME ABOUT IT been using Z Trunks in ranked and going against the meta wouldn’t be as bad if the mechanics were tuned you know?
@ fs this game has a lotta potential
This is exactly how I feel, it’s a great game it’s jus some of the mechanics allow people to abuse certain fighters for cheap wins… which of course people WILL utilize. After I reached the B’s I started facing the same 5 or 6 different flavors of cheese and it jus stopped being fun.
DAX WAS TALKING FACTS! You want an EVO game then go to fighterz.
I love the burst limit music!
Thanks man Burst Limit was fun as hell being a Infinte Wrold and such
I mainly play with friends because people online always cheese too much. Having a team with people with unblockable ults. We also always a couple randoms to try out characters. Android 19 and gero kinda dope once you learn how to use them
Yeah Ranked is cheesey as hell and got boring for me hella quick no lie and 19 & 20 have a pretty simple gameplan for the most part so I think they aight lol
People complaining about Yajirobe and he is still the same thing as BT3, but the real problem are the levels. If they fixed levels, Yajirobe and 90% of the cheese of this game was fixed.
Yajirobe is still amazing after the nerfs since you gain skill count so fast in this game anyway tbh if they fixed the recovery and the stages for the game he wouldnt really be a issue most of the time honestly.
@@Jaitiy Oh, sorry, by "levels" I've meant the Skill Count Levels. There is not point nerfing Yajirobe if the Skill bar charges too fast. In BT3, Yajirobe was never high tier, and the senzu was still broken, because it took too much time to gain level 5.
I don't mind balance patches, aslong as my goat Z Bully remains top tier or atleast above B tier, I'm gucci
Z Broly will be fine I feel they def just gotta do something about Sparking is all tbh
26:58 nostalgia warning woul;dve been nice for the UNI song, damn. but fr this vid is amazing and I whole heartedly agree with all of it. imagine making a game in 2024 that's not crossplay
Seth theme is WAY TOO GOOD! And thanks I been working on this video since release and took my time on it to get all my thoughts out the way
Theres so much offline content missing, The tower mode from bt3 amd the rpg mechanics mode..With a few tweaks it would have been amazing...The Story being rushed in that matter and the missing content and lack of many iconic stages is the reason to me why Sparking Zero is missing something
As a kid the extra story content provided the hours of playtime needed then the other modes were the cherry on top
Creative mode alone cant carry what the old games usto have
The one thing I don’t like is how the community is going “oh my god the games such a flop after losing so many players!” Like they were expecting this to be some kind of live service bullshit like Fortnite. What felt like last week on everybody praising the game having 3 million copies now people are making fun of the fact people actually have interests and wanna play other games.
@@locodesert2 Also the fact there weee SO MANY GAMES that came out this month that after playing online people wanted to try something else. It also happens with most fighting games as well but people just want to see this game fail so badly it’s honestly sad tbh.
@ like that perfection channel who dick rides the game for any content to trash talk it. I even dropped the game a bit a week later cause of the new Sonic game dropping.
They are making changes and plan to add more during the lifetime of the game
Once some things are tweaked : vanish wars (maybe change the timing getting faster and faster)
Super counters costing ki maybe
New modes (already teased by the latest survey)
New maps and accessories
Also pls bandai... make quivk play with a better match making , the room thing is only good with friends
So yeah i am pretty optimistic about the game (ranked is pretty much like s1 fighterZ SO yeah❤
The only thing I have about Sparking zero is WAITING IN LOBBIES. I purely hate waiting for a match it makes no sense.
Tbh I dont know why they just didnt make it like ranked and just call it Endless batlles shit is crazy
7:40 thats litterally how smash was envisioned but people still play it at tournaments
Yeeh but people love to say thats "THE OUTLIER"
There's balance patches in smash tho
26:18 bro ts was some of the worst matches we ever played 😭
With everything im hearing my take is this - fight to win, learn what works and what does not, learn counters for difficult characters or be the difficult character. And keep the word balance out of all our mouths. Now get out there and win
The last part of this quote kinda reminds me of what Prescott said in the Gears Of War games lol
Bro most of this is the same shit i said in my video but you go way more into detail Great video
Thanks fam and great minds think alike this game really has huge potential if the devs play their cards right
I want them to change it so that perception disables block parrying
Perception is probably the most goofiest mechanic in the game to me with how spammable it is lol
@@Jaitiy I just lost to a guy spamming it. But due to how outrageously inconsistent side step is.
Sometimes youll sidestep the full length, other times youll side step 2 inches and get punished for making the correct call because of how the targeting system works.
BT3 had a much more fluid, responsive combat system with a solid target system. (and bt2 targeting system was toned down in bt3 bt3s)
25:25
I have that bug so often
31:30 thats cool af i want that
I still remember when it happened to me and I was like WHAT GAME AM I PLAYING!?
@Jaitiy yea often i cant fly up
I like to use it when they rush me
But somtimes i cant fly up or down at all
Or even rush clashes
The enemy does a rush attack, i do a dash so we can clash and i just get hit by that
I stopped doing it cause of that
Now i just block or vanish
Im bt3 i always clashed the rush attacks
And deflecting beams should only cost 1 skill count
The whole story mode should have been a what if.
Or they at least do all of Super’s storyline and skip Z.
And as for costumes why not take a lot of the costumes from DB Heroes as well.
They can give Broly a Cumber costume, ect.
I will say if your not focusing on online ranked theres a lot of fun to be had. Even just single player is pretty good. I usually smash cpus on anything but the hardest setting in fighting games. Then this on normal gives me a real fight. Granted i dont get to play all the time but the cpu are pretty good for a fighting game
Player matches I just actually be vibing out just dont like the way it is in this game tbh I rather be like ranked to where I can just find someone and they call it Endless Battles instead. Offline is kinda eh to me Episode Battle was ok, Custom Battle I don't really touch like that so I mostly stay online
Man. I was so heated when vegeta’s story ended at the buu saga. I wanted to play future gohan and future trunks mainly for the androids. I wanted to shout “this is for Gohan!” But overall, the game is pretty fun
Yeah still dont get why that happened tbh shit is crazy game is fun for sure I just def want to see it do better
@Jaitiy plus weres my boy super 17 arale king piccolo nova shenron
@@MasterBlaster-69yeah. I really expected super 17 to be there day 1. I wanted to make a custom battle centered around the “Nobody can beat me when I’m super 17” meme.
@Impulse170 fax man i wanted my favorite character there
Im a be honest, i disagree with the limitation mode where characters are balanced. I think DP battle was a really cool way to give incentive to using weaker characters without compromising the wacky unbalanced feel of tenkaichi. When i fight ppl using gogeta or UI it feels like a boss fight but once I knock out that one character ive basically won already cuz they throw out yamcha as backup or some shit
I said this as someone who really plays Single as opposed to DP DP I dont play cuz after facing one of my peeps it esentially just becomes a time out simluator and that's not for me personally. I can def see why people like DP though with the character variety since singles is kinda the same thing after a while
@ Yo good point though because literally me and this opponent ended uo fusing into goteta and vedito and as soon as the fusion boxing began the timer ran out. like they need to increase that shit cuz i thought this was a dragon ball simulator
they should bring back the budokai series and make that one the competitive, EVO type fighting game and keep the tenkaichi series as just a party fighting game
I think the game can be competitive it just needs the right changes to the mechanics cuz right now its a mess. Also I would Prefer Infinite World playstyle or Budokai 3 due to the rock, paper, scissors thing they had in that game and some things in Budokai 3 were BUSTED ngl
So first I want to say good video man, I guess I liked it so much I decided to give my opinion :D. Some points will repeat from other comments, but still.
As one man said, after u done all episodes, bought all items, your zeni is pointless.Also, hope that in future they will add some costumes on all characters, coz now its like 5+ goku clothes and like others-0.
Going into custom battles is fun, but as you said not having voice it doesn't have that magic.
So now after U get platinum, only real fun option is playing ranked.I would love to play tournaments more, but daam is hard to find consistent tournaments, as if people aint playing.
Oh and also, when u leave online room u are dropped to title page, why not back to search page...
Personally I don't know how this game could make some moves that player would comeback daily if we talk about offline.
Sorry for my paragraph of "blabla", but in the end I love the game, but when you get platinum in about a month playing regularly is a bit annoying :D
And all those extras like I said ( zeni, lack of skins 1 start abilities) pointless. Its nothing but why we still get exp and zeni if we don't need those until dlc will come
Nah dont aplogize for it I really love reading anything type of comment whether its short or detailed cuz any feedback is great. And I def feel the same way about offline I 100% all the Episode battles & Custom Battles are ight to me I just stick to online for the most part and it is hard to find tournaments online which is unfortuanate as that mode is hella fun. Also love the suggestions here so I'll add it to my notepad thanks
I Agree with a lot of your points. A lot of the problem is in the lack of some balancing systems for some skills more then just the characters themselves. Z-Counter wars are so boring and last way to long, instant sparking into ki blast ultimate spam, afterimage strike. all need to get a look at.
Though I don't entirely agree about some of your online takes. I love the idea of Endless. but being able to have seperate fights in the lobby or rematch while people are waiting defeats some of the point. In fighter Z I always would get frustrated when i'd make a lobby and then people would just endlessly fight in the bottom lobby. If i make a 4 or 6 person room I don't want them to just have seperate fights the entire time. I want a rotation of battles. If you just want quick matches go play [your version] of player match at that point.
Otherwise mostly agree with everything. Game is great Limit and Limitless mode would be amazing from a competative stand point and should have limit as default for rank the "Skill" mode.
and otherwise the game just needs to fix a few of the legitmitally unfair things that take away the fun from the game. Losing should still be able to be fun like you tried your best. no one wants to feel cheated.
I can def see why you likethe rotation so its pretty good arguement for that honestly tbh. And yeah game has so much love into it I would def love it to get better for the long term
@@Jaitiy You can definitly see all the love and time put into this game. I feel like the lack of things like Ki sickness could of even been just the creators not thinking it was fun and not forseeing the cheese that would come from some of these things.
I don't think the game needs crazy balancing. but there are some things that are just not fun to do or play against that need to be adjusted both for fairness and to increase the fun of the game. doesn't need to be crazy balnced just fair.
My favorite solution to the vanish war for example is after say 2 ki bars of vanishing [or some other set number] it goes into a clash rather then just vanishing forever. I think this solution also fixes the hypothetical Super counter war issue as after so many vanishes or super counters it just becomes a clash and auto ends.
Lots this game can do to tweak and adjust things with out having to nerf characters
I just want a photomode, honesty
Bro I WOULD LOVE A PHOTOMODE NO LIE
Fair & honest criticism, its important to judgdge things especially the things one loves for it tio become even better.
I do like SZ but the hard to search for custom battle & the scene skipping story mode are bummers,(i cracked up when gohan became a greatape & instantly turned back)
And only time chamber for local vs? (granted the arenas are more comlicated now but i got a mod for pc & to play with more arenas with the boys & it worked well )
As for online, Ragequitting having no punish is awful, im not much for MK but every fighting game should copy the "quitality" (the quitter explodes & the other wins)
The Quality you mentioned is funny considering as much as I dont enjoy MK1 as much as I did at a point one thing they always got right was for people actually ragequitting honestly dont get how other companies havent learned by now tbh. It sucks but the time chamber for VS was only addeed cuz people wanted split screen like crazy and because this game is in Unreal Engine 5 and this game has a lot more going I understand why they could only choose that map especially since it was never their intention to put it in more of a last minute ting tbh.
I wish there was a online PVE type thing for friends that want to take on a custom made boss or something that was the first thing i looked for when i bought the game for my friend because he doesnt like pvp.. (So a team players vs Ai type thing)This way you dont have to worry about going up against players who have way too much time on their hands.
Funny enough you said I believe the PC version actually have this since they can change things on that side I really wish I was a PC player instead console for this game man
Perception is the absolute worst thing, its easy to counter ofc but bro you get so many Circle button merchants and for my xbox guys the B button. Most times you can barely freaking fight bc dawg is just holding perception. Even if they are losing the fight you can still see em using the damn perception like dawg really???
Yeah it def needs added recovery frames for it and some Ki usuage its so funny how most the matches go online tbh
@@Jaitiy yeah bro its ridiculous, I was playing a ssj4 gogeta the other day while recording for the channel you can just see him holding the button not tryna fight lol
Guys I am very serious if any of y'all hate Dragon Ball Sparking Zero you can give it to me I love the game but if any hates the game let me know cause I always wanted it but could never pay for it.
I hope you can get the game when you can and hopefully the game will be in a match better state tbh
@Jaitiy Thank you man I appreciate it! I'll get it very soon I just know I always wanted the game.
Love the game could and should be better though.
1. Ranked rage quitting or even honest disconnect should immediately count as a w for the guy who didn't get "connection issues"
2. Should be a filter for ranked solo matches to filter out op characters if you're wanting to play a regular character, I'm way better then most and yet I lose to ui goku just barely simply because he has 3 more health bars then my rosi very annoying losing because of opinion character rather then skill.
3. Input lag is terrible for controller and i play plugged in, should have never been a issue.
23:45 would be awesome
Honestly dont feel bad about losing to fusions, UI or Omen Goku, Full Power Jiren, etc the extra health bar and they are just overall better characters I main Z Trunks so I know how you feel since I have to work hard to get my wins against them. Ragequitting def gotta be punished and Input Lag and this game just doesn't make sense ngl tbh.
@Jaitiy Won't lie only jiren I've fought in ranked i stomped with my rosi twice.
Without afterimage strike, I wouldn't be able to compete.
Nah dog there is a reason why the FGC dogs anime fighters, it's because Bandai refuses to give their games the attention it needs instead of relying on fanservice. The only reason why SZ is getting a lot of attention is because it's not just "Flavor of the season" anime that Bandai turns into an arena fighter for a quick buck, heck it's not even a secret that most of their arena fighters basically have the same engine. Why do you think people lost their minds when DBZF came out and they saw it wasn't handled by Bandai, hopefully SZ is a different story since its DBZ.
Oh trust I know why Arena Fighters get the treatment they do from other people I just don't like how the FGC treats people who wants to dive deep into Arena Fighters and this is also coming from someone who also plays fighting games myself.
I agree with what you and everybody else said. I love this game to death but there are alot and I MeAN ALOT that needs to be touched on, added in, and fixed altogether.
Ayyy whats good Chris and I def agree man the game has hella potential but WAY TOO MUCH to be fixed overall why I REALLY wanted to take my time making this hell the comments I even forgot to mention saves files being deleted for players & other things.
I like the game💯fr i could play all day win or lose i feel i always can add something to my arsenal to get better,buuut the super counters and button lags for online matches is annoying. Like if i go into sparking and do a short string combo to get my ULT off it’ll just do the perception stance
Give it time people the game just came out and just like xenoverse or every other fighting game it will be supported for the next five or ten years or so with multiple updates and DLCs it's not like they will abandon the game entirely while it's still fresh and new
Oh I just wanted to get this out the way as someone who played the Tenkaichi series for a long time. I def hope the devs support it like how Xenoverse 2 is treated
@Jaitiy will the developers are at least are listening to fans criticism of the game and they are doing the best they could so I guess there is hope there
I love this game, and it will get better over time
Thats the only thing I hope for man MAY THIS PATCH SAVES US LMAO
@Jaitiy Keep the faith brother
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i wish there was a surrender button as i have other stuff to do. that i might not have known prior. so just surrendering and doing it would be nice. but no, i just gotta let the guy beat my ass, then wait for the victory animation to finish. then leave. then go and do what i need to do.
(cause for SOME FUCKING REASON. if you leave it. it will start another match. WHY)
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I’ve never actually played a Tenkaichi game, but I’ve played a lot of fighting games
Same been playing fighting games since the arcade era shits are fun as hell
The first person was cool as shit. I used it every time I could
This video was pretty much all my thoughts summed up nice and neat and I appreciate that, i hate that people think this game is perfect the way it is, when it's nowhere near as mechanically sound as Bt3. To me this game feels closer to raging blast with the sound design and feel. The overall movements needs to upgraded like it was in Bt3. 3 more things I wanna mention is that I think this camera is pretty bad, especially when locked off and you should not be locked off when you block an Ult, that's not a thing in the old games. The second thing is no custom supers or any customization at all and it makes me mad, by far the thing that disappointed me most, of all the things you take from raging blast you don't take the different types of supers and no colors or different outfits (Where's my black ssj4!? Can't get the original actor or my favorite outfit? that's so lame. Last thing is deflecting, I despise that i'm FORCED to reflect by just guarding when I wanna block, make it like the old games so I can at least only have to worry about the ult. It also makes me sick to my stomach that I can't deflect ultimates with super perception, if I could do that, deflecting beams would actually be worth the cost. But as for you my guy, you made an awesome video, we need more people like you 100%.
Nah thank you for the great comment man I just love editing/designing so I wanted to get ALL OF MY THOUGHTS OFF since the game released especially being a Tenkaichi veteran BT2 WAS MY GAME MAN! And from your comment I KNEW I FORGOT SOMETHING TO MENTION THE REFLECT it's not even worth the stocks to be used for it cuz in Raging blast you can just be like NOPE! I really hope someone at the dev team can actually look at this so I can show them hey I just want this game to be better for everyone and I DONT WANT THIS GAME TO DIE it has so much potential.
@@Jaitiy 100% agreed, I also forgot to mention that I think the single player content is also lacking, no Korin's tower, Ultimate battle or Sim Dragon really hurts, we do have custom battle which is cool, but it's currently a tedious mess.
And for someone who actually tells the truth. I'm already subscribing because unlike meat writers. Were you to say anything good about the game and nothing else you actually give criticism even if you like it.
I like call them the Sparking Zero Glazer Rangers believe or not LMAO. Like the fact some people in this community don't even like criticism given to this game is CRAZY WORK! In order for the game to get better we need people like me and others to speak up otherwise this game won't last in the longterm with how much everything is going on
online and network code need to be fixed for this game to stay relevant in the online space
100 AGREE man I need more people to speak on
They need to fix the dragon dash is too damn slow why doesn’t it have that super speed blast off effect it did in the previous games. The impact feels very watered down there’s less weight to them, bt3 takes the cake in that one. The tracking is abysmal. I hate when u do a beam clash both character appear mind air?? They need to fix that aswell
@@Pobaika Really great points man and yeah the movement in general in this game IS NOT IT! I just hope the patch In December really changes things cuz the game needs it BADLY!
24:18 strong characters gonna be strong, weak characters gonna be weak. Don't be mad when u pick chiaotzu and then get cooked by blue gogeta, they said it was gonna be unbalanced. You knew what you were getting into
ignore my comment i js realised how silly i sounded
Oh nah I get thay I'm more so talking about how in the older games the damage Gogeta did back then wasn't like the damage he does now tbh. But I saw your reply comment you all good LMAO
Do people realize without a competitive scene the game will die out after a few months?
on a serious note though, referring to the community portion games are always going to have a non-competitive element to them that mf's can reference for their pity parties. even the most widely celebrated competitive games in the world have RNG mechanics or an unbalanced part of the meta that people just gotta sit through. this isn't just an issue with sparking, it's a problem with gaming in general. I agree that overly competitive players can put a bad taste in somebody's mouth, but people gotta realize that resources for getting better are more abundantly available than ever, and making a career out of gaming is more relevant than ever so motivation and ease of access to getting insanely good FAST is RIGHT THERE! no game is gonna get it perfect, but people online really tweeting like they the developers and with some of the takes y'all have to CHANGE THE ENTIRE COURSE OF THE GAME ITSELF because of a bad personal experience or ass whooping you received on the game bruh. I think that the game's developers had a lot on their plates to work with when making the game and for what it matters, they did a pretty good job and there's always flaws that are gonna be present even if they took another 5 years to develop the game. people need to get out their feelings, reflect on what they thinking and give actual constructive criticism and not just smoking packs of copium on Twitter to fix the entire game to cater to themselves
edit: also people should win for getting rage quit on, or at the very least time the rage quitter out for at least an hour for first offense, 24 hours second offense, etc.
Honestly Bru that's my thing there's even people getting mad at me like " The developers been working on this game all this time and yall trying to hate etc" It's more of so I'm pretty much this game had to be rushed out to come out the same time as Dragon Ball Daima so there's a LOT OF THINGS WRONG WITH IT even basic things missing. And even when I said in the very BEGGINING OF THE VID I'm trying to make the game better people just ignore it LOL. This game has so much potential, fanservice, and visually beautiful but that doesn't mean I'M NOT gonna critque a game.
And the competition state you made I def agree with it also not gonna lie most of these people coudn't be developers they wouldn't know what to do honestly but there is a differecne between actual feedback and just bitching. And Rage quits TELL ME ABOUT IT lol
Oh shit my comment made it into the video i think i might get flamed for it tho
@@idkmehboi1972 Nah you’ll be fine if they gonna anything to say about it ii gotcha 🫡
@Jaitiy thx bro
One small thing I didn’t like is in the shop, Bulma talks wayyyyy too much.
Bulma do be yapping I will admit to that lol
To you're point of people saying it's not meant to be competitive and all that i think it's more they dont want the devs to pander to every whim of the competitive side like other devs do in games especially nowadays which can and has ruined the casual side of the game aswell so while i agree there are improvements to be made i don't want major nerfs or buffs to characters
Honestly of speaking of the other end from games I played since I REALLY love to learn the mechanics of games and LOVE to play games on high level and for fun. The devs mostly listened to the more of the casual side from my experience of playing games. And talked about more of the mechanics of the game that have to be fixed more than the characters. Also why I say from either side people should just let people approach how they want to & why I mentioned a Limatation mode so that way everyone can play on the same playing field as the meta already got boring for people. Love this comment btw and the ones I have gotten for having open discussions like this I expected more hate with this video than anything not gonna lie.
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YO CAN HOLD THE KI key and DO THE DAMAGE A SKILL WOULD