1943 Bombing Raid on Boise City, Oklahoma
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- The U.S. Army Air Force had plenty of bombing targets in July of 1943, but Oklahoma wasn't supposed to be on the list. The History Guy remembers the 1943 bombing raid on Boise City, Oklahoma.
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Several viewers have asked about the pronunciation of “Boise.” I pronounced the name as it is pronounced by Boise City locals. Boise is pronounced differently in Oklahoma than it is in Idaho.
you make history fun
Like miami in oklahoma its pronounced miama
Why are people so hyper critical? Nearly every city/state/country has a different (and correct) way of pronouncing its name.
Good to know. I used to live in Boise, ID. Ironically, _Boise, Idaho_ is often labeled _Boise City_ online in things such as drop-down lists.
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Matthew Bromwell. But that would mean the History Channel would feature... history? That would just be absurd!
Definitely, but then sadly most people wouldn't watch it.
@@1stAmbientGrl True 😞
The plaque Boise City mounted is a good example of understated American sardonic humor.
"God Damn, Irene. They're bombing us!"
He should put that on a tshirt!
What would have made that even funnier would have been if Irene had replied: "Who the heck are "they"?"
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Well History Guy, 135,000 students, did you ever think you'd be one of the most listens to and loved history teachers of the entirety of human history?
The guy who slept through it, and wondered who threw mud on his porch...😆
Beats a bag of burning dog crap...
That would have been me, before I went into the Air Force. In my youth, I slept through a small grocery store blowing up down the street, Then years later, a large pottery plant blew up even closer to my home, and I slept right through it too. Basic Training solved that for me. Constantly listening for the T.I.'s to walk by your bunk, wearing taps on their shoes.
Well God damn, who's thrown mud on my porch?
There was a vessel implosion at a polyethylene plant near my house. It took the all the windows all across the neighborhood. Neighbors described a great blast and ground shock. I slept through it in the basement. I thought I was a light sleeper before that.
When I was about 5 years old. My family was living in a mobile home park. I had the bedroom facing the street. Well one night the trailer on the other side of the road had a problem with its gas and burnt down. I was sleeping next to the window all night long while the fire department was parked about 12 feet from my bed with there lights and radio blasting.... *shrugs*
"I shoulda taken the left at Albequoike ..."
Obscure quote from Bugs Bunny, who also said, "Hoboken? I'm dyin'!"
"That all folks!"🎵
Classic.
This ain't Pismo Beach!
@Manley Nelson look it up. They dropped a nuke on Albuquerque but it didn't go off. For real. Look it up.
I didn't know I need a shirt with "Well goddamn, Irene" on it, but it turns out I do.
it needs to be a drink, 2p Kahlua and 1p wild turkey?........yea thats fitting for the mud and turkeys we have here in Okla.
The things you can learn on this channel are remarkable!
@@BORDEMentertainment2
Here's mud in your eye😉😉😉
When you get them, I'd like one in 2X
I lived in Ok panhandle for 20 years and ive never heard this story.Keep the history coming.
That's the problem...live some place that long and you don't know anything about it. Wonder if New Yorkers really never go up the Empire State Building, or if they do then just pretend they don't because it's a tourist thing. That said, I learned about the bombing run when I first took students to visit the beef jerky company in Boise City. Also learned that those meat sticks you can buy are a way to dispose of the left-overs from jerky. Really. Bombs, jerky, and lots of fun in that panhandle.
An almost tragic situation handled with a good sense of humour and a well informed tenor. Great presentation. Bravo.
Adjusted for inflation, the total damage is the equivalent of $364.80 in today's money (2018)
I honestly wouldn't have thought the windows alone back then were that cheap.
@@subduedreader5627
They weren't. There just wasn't much that needed to be replaced.
You didn't need trained experts to replace the sashes. And it's highly possible that only the glass and muntins needed replacing.
Windows we have now have thicker glass, and they're double or triple paned with inert gas between them.
Not in the Bay Area !!
@Robert Pruitt I guess I'm used to that then. At least they weren't stained glass!
It's because we don't calculate inflation accurately.
"Well G.D. Irene...." "...splattered mud on the porch" LOL! I absolutely love the little extra details you include. They make your videos even better! Thank you... Irene's husband made me laugh. I needed that today. 👍❤️🤗 BUNGA! BUNGA!
i know i love how he adds in funny bits while acting very serious
@@maclawson5514 Check out the replies under jorge6207's reply. Someone uploaded a ringtone of THG saying the "God Damn..." phrase. So funny...and it works well. 😉
@@IntrepidFraidyCat lol i love it
The bombs that fell over Germany were similarly "low precision." We see film of bombs dropping on factories and rail yards but very many fell on civilian areas as well. Despite more careful rules of engagement many civilians have died in recent conflicts as well. It serves us well to remember the terrible cost of any war.
Early in WW2, 5 MILES from the intended target was considered accurate by the RAF. The USAAF got that accuracy up with the introduction of the Norden bomb sight, (mechanical) "computer"- corrected . The RAF did achieve much better accuracy later on when both 617 and 9 squadron specialised in precision bombing using "Tallboy" (12,000 lb) and later on "Grand Slam" (22,000 lb) bombs against specific targets such as the V-1 and V-2 sites in France and "Tirpitz" in a Norwegian fjord - they had to as these super-heavy bombs were very expensive- almost hand-made.
I'll set aside the arguments about the morality of area bombing of civilian targets such as cities.
@Dr. M. H. The intent, obviously, is to keep our military personnel from killing civilians. There are two reasons for this.
First is to maintain the veneer of civility and fairness. We can only tell ourselves we are the good guys if we don't napalm babies.
The second is to manage PR. If our civilians become distraught over what they are shown they will demand an end to hostilities and, horror of horrors, cut military funding. No general wants that.
My wife and I used to like the history channel. Used to.. I like yours now. Thank you. I appreciate the time you give for posting.
My grandfathers brother, "Uncle Micky" was a B-17 pilot in Europe. He survived his 25 missions and spent the rest of his life drunk, never saying much about his tour other than, "It was horrible." I never met him, as he died before I was born.
In war there is no winner. There is only the side that lost, and the side that lost more.
Indeed. He was a hero, as were all those guys. This is the loss of which I am speaking.
That saying is ignorant and foolish. Tell that to our forefathers who fought the revolutionary war.
So I guess then no one died in the Revolutionary War? No one suffered psychological traumas?
To say you can win a war is the ignorant foolish thing, because it makes you more likely to engage in a war.
Could the US have won it's independence had everyone involved knew there was no winner in war?
Countries have used war to gain what they want, but even if they gain those things, the cost was incredibly high. Possibly too high.
Do you think the widows and orphans created by the Revolutionary War felt the cost was worth it?
Do you think they care that you enjoy a freedom that they never had? If a time traveler told you that life in the 23rd Century would be like Orwell's 1984, with no hope of freedom for anyone ever but if you sacrificed your life and the lives of your family, you wife and kids, would you willingly make that sacrifice?
Remember none of your descendants will be there. Also, no one would know about that sacrifice.
Don't cop out with "How do I know the traveler is telling the truth?" Just assume you have a way and that he is telling the truth.
@@erictaylor5462 - tell that to oppressed people who rise up against their oppressors and overthrow them. No one is saying war is some romantic interlude, but to take this "woe is me" attitude as though no one ever wins a war is moronic. The sorrow of the one does not outweigh the benefit to the many. You sound like a bleeding heart leftist.
Did I say it was "woe is me?" No, I simply pointed out the cost of war.
No one ever does win a war. Sometimes war is necessary, but war is ALWAYS evil.
The world isn't back and white. Sometimes you need to do something bad to counter something worse. It doesn't make that bad thing any better.
Personally, I think war should be avoided when possible. This does not mean "Avoid war at any cost."
Something like 72 million people died in WWII. That cost was so high because "leftists" wanted peace so much, they ignored all the signs of aggression.
What do you think would have happened had Chamberlain declared war in Germany when Hitler militarized the Rhineland?
You call me ignorant, but I think I know a shit ton more about this than you do. People like you are a huge problem. You see something you don't agree with and you assume they are a "bleeding heart leftist".
You don't understand that both sides have good and bad ideas, and no one is defined by what ever views their side holds. You just hold whatever idea on any given subject the conservatives have and never think about it any deeper than that. You are too lazy to think for yourself. Many liberals are the same way, but hold the opposite political view.
People like you are the ones who are destroying this country.
In 2008 an OK Air National Guard F16 dropped a BDU-33 on an apartment, here in Tulsa. It went through the roof and came to rest in a guys bathroom. It was supposed to be dropped in Kansas. It fell off shortly after takeoff, without the pilot's knowledge. The mayor Boise called our mayor to "welcome Tulsa into the club".
Some of those 15,000 airmen who died in training accidents here in the US are buried at the Zachary Taylor National Cemetery in Louisville. The city's Bowman Airfield was used as a training base for transport aircraft and the Curtiss Aircraft Company had even built a factory there to produce C-46 Commando transports. Unfortunately there were a number of accidents involving inexperienced crews flying brand-new aircraft, resulting in more than thirty mass graves located at the front of the cemetery.
Archerfish1977 I live in Louisville and haven't been to that cemetery, yet. I didn't know about the mass graves. That's awful. Thanks for sharing.
I live here in Louisville, thank you for the info. I didn't know.
$25 really shines a light on the current lawsuit generation. Could you imagine if that happened today? All the property damage lawsuits, hundreds of emotional destress lawsuits, the EPA would flood in with a quarantine 30 square miles, hundreds of counselors would pour into the town for grief and aid. Red Cross would set up a booth.
My grandfather could well have been one of the trainees in that flight. He washed out as a pilot (had trouble keeping the wings level on landing) so they made him a navigator. He went over to Britain some time in late '43, 367th Bombardment Squadron - Heavy, 306th Bombardment Group, 8th AF. On Feb 22nd, '44 he was on his 49th mission (he re-upped for a second tour) over Bergen, Germany when his plane was badly shot up. He took the controls and kept the plane level while everyone else got out. The pilot, co-pilot, bombardier, both waist gunners, radio operator and top turret gunner made it. Being Jewish, he attempted to make it to France before he jumped. The plane didn't make it. The ball and tail gunners were also killed.
My father was also in the 367th Bombardment Squadron of the 306th, but at a later time from 1953 to 1957 when they had converted to B-47 jet bombers. I thank both my father and your grandfather for their service.
Your grandfather is one brave man!! May he rest in peace!! which is more than i can say for the pilot!! what happened to the captain goes down with his ship???
@@robinrodriguez480 well, he couldn't jump, because he was jewish. The pilot could. So not having him take the controls would have lead the pilot being killed for 0 gain for anyone.
In fact, even on an actual ship, the captain is and always has been perfectly allowed to save himself, *IF HE CAN NO LONGER ASSIST IN SAVING ANYBODY ELSE*
It's not the case that just because a captain is incapable of saving every other member of his crew, that he thus has to basically commit suicide. He only has a duty to do every last thing he can do to TRY and save every other member of his crew, before he saves himself, untill *there are no more reasonable steps he can take*.
Strongbow he was a brave man
@@robinrodriguez480 the pilot was in no danger just because he was Jewish. The navigator wanted to try to get over occupied France in the hope that the French Resistance would hide him.
While this was a curious anecdote, what really bothered me was learning that 15,500 servicemen were killed during TRAINING! I love your channel @THG but sometimes I learn things that I really don't want to know. RIP brave souls.
This anecdote reminds me of the sad tale of B-24 Lady Be Good
@Chris Case, yes that was a tragic event but it's just one of many. That's why I'm proud to display my American flag, our country might be messed up but I salute all who have given their lives for us. I'm also a veteran so it's kind of like my duty.
The truth hurts sometimes.
@@chriscase6575 For whatever solace from that tragedy can be had, it was the diary of Lt. Toner that allowed the Air Force to revise desert survival tactics- the crew lived and traveled much further than was previously thought possible.
I must have missed that, I thought he meant accidents not casualties.
Reminds me of a poster when I was in the Air Force. It had an old man with a flight helmet on that stated “sleep tight tonight your Air Force is awake”.
Why couldn't school history be this interesting ? I hated history in school. Now I can't get enough. Especially this channel. Thank you !
My husband is from Oklahoma, I have a sister-in-law in Dalhart, my Dad was a WWII buff, and I never heard of this before?! Dang, my family is falling down on the job! :) Great episode, as usual! Loved it! But so many dead from accidents? I hadn't heard about that either, and how sad it is!
Dorothy V. - When I saw this video, I thought about you and resolved to send you a link next time you were over at BRT as it seems to have your sense of humor. Then, I read through the comments, and found this one. No need. Great minds and all that . . . This guy is really great! Hope you saw his video on the ICBM exploding outside of Little Rock!
"The entire assessed damage to Boisie City was assessed at twenty-five dollars."
Had the bombers leveled the town, the damage would have risen to fifty dollars. (Just kidding.)
h lynn keith lol
@@TheHistoryGuyChannel Not that far from the truth. There is an interesting history to how Boise City came to be. It was a scam akin to modern time hares with artists' renderings of tree lined streets and neat frame houses, NONE OF WHICH EXISTED, and the scammers didn't even own the land, but homes and building lots were pre-sold sight unseen, back east, to a small number of unsuspecting victims. We used to send the homeless people we didn't want in Springfield Colorado down to Boise City OK. I am quite sure they did NOT very much appreciate that practice at all, and I am also sure they sent them off somewhere else too. ONE REALLY NICE THING ABOUT THESE OKIE/TEXAS PANHANDLE TOWNS, WE ALL HAD OUR OWN NATURAL GAS POWER PLANTS. Sink a well hit gas install a separator and a pressure regulator, hook up a prime mover or two, or however many you wanted or needed to use, and start them up. My father and I surveyed to sink tiny tap wells to run Waukesha powered irrigation pumps, all running on natural gas.
@@TheHistoryGuyChannel My great grandmother wrote a very nice few pages in her diary about an ammunition train that caught fire somewhere outside of Fruita, Colorado (the other side of the mountains by Utah, not Kansas). The town's people from a few surrounding towns thought the Japanese might be invading, and they all began to muster arms, gathered together, and started to march off towards the river, and thus toward the train tracks, only to find cases of bullets, rockets, mortars artillery shells all on fire and shooting off an all different directions. My Uncle Don had buckets filled with old shells. I want to say some were 105mm. Others looked to be closer to 50mm. There were also Bazooka shells (unexploded). Grenades, (undetonated). If it got hurled off by another exploding shell they flew off in the air and landed undetonated EVERYWHERE! I loved the Soapy Smith story. My cousin worked as a tour guide in a tourist attraction in Leadville. We used to go give her fits, by paying for a guided tour and then asking her ridiculous questions that no one could possibly answer.
You almost made me choke on my chocolate cake..haha..
Money value today would still be about the same.
I think there is still a bomb casing displayed outside the courthouse in Boise City commemorating the event. I have heard of this but this was by far the best telling of the story.
One WWII story could be about Lance Wade, a Texas farmboy who joined the RAF and ended up with more aerial victories than Chuck Yeager, about 26 confirmed. He did not survive the war so not much is ever mentioned of him.
Thank you for your channel.
Mark Nerren it is in front of the chamber of commerce, which is an old train caboose.
Keep these gems coming!! I can't thank you enough for sharing these videos!!
Oh man, didn't need coffee that morning....
Yes you would. Probably with a shot of whisky
@Mycel Do not be too hard on Carl. Not everyone understands or appreciates the joys of being a hard core coffee drinker.
@Mycel Sounds good to me. Especially now the colder weather is upon us.
It's interesting how many people like a shot of something in their coffee. Hat's off to those fine people.
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Keep up the great work!
Thats what you call a rude awakening.
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Just astounding! This is the best channel on the internet! Thank you history guy!
I’m a student pilot, and I have a feeling my next lessons will be about about pilotage(navigating from one place to another using only landmarks), this was a good intro on why it’s important to not make too many mistakes on that.
I love THG because he is just a guy who chose to film himself telling cool histroy-stories, edited the videos and then uploaded them. Not only that, he keeps doing it. Love his channel.
I love watching what you put out. Great stories that DO deserve to be remembered.
I love the History Guy - obscure and sometimes quirky bits of history that "deserve to be remembered." Great channel!
One of the best channels on TH-cam!
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Thanks History Guy. Every video is a gem
Love how you end all of your videos on such a heartwarming ending. Love that. Keep it up.
Here's another one for the history books: First and only video in the history of youtube that's been posted not only more than 5 seconds without a thumbs down but for almost a whole day! 108-0 Truly historical. Awesome production, content, and presentation though. If they would've shown us your videos in school I not only would've taken an interest in history but probably would've passed too. Thank you sir.
Rather amazing; and hilarious. Unknown to most living Americans. Great stuff. Thanks for it. (Subscribed)
Unknown to this Oklahoma resident, even!
Watch the film Bomber Harris on TH-cam. During the Second World War navigating at night over blackened out cities in Europe was no easy task. There was a reason why the Americans insisted and persisted on day time bombing while the British did night time bombing. This was long before GPS devices from satellites...
Pronunciation is CORRECT!
I grew up in the area and didnt know about it!
This episode was just FUN! Thank you.....I look forward to your videos....
Only discovered you lately and gotta say I love your posts, keep up the good educational work...the kids especially need you now
Very interesting account of an event I never knew about. I love B-17 stories since my grandfather was a B-17F copilot in the 8th Air Force, 384th Bomb Group out of England in 1943. His personal story of his military service, and experience as a POW of the Germans for a year and a half, is one that I'm grateful he wrote down so that it can be remembered.
I respect the attitude of the victims of the bombing. It clearly shows an attitude of support and patriotism that is greatly needed today.
There's a damn good reason why navigators are called "Navi-guessers"!
I was once awarded a death certificate for getting my Civil Air Patrol Flight crew killed in a mock radiological monitoring exercise way back when..we were near a Nuclear power plant and the Guys in charge of the practice decided to take advantage of having a trained air crew with the proper gear in the area..and had us play the part of a monitoring aircraft...I missed my mark and got the aircraft, I was in, into the plume from a simulated meltdown...
I forgot to allow for wind direction and speed making a turn during the grid search and presto I was off course by just enough to get into the plume.
@@wbnc66 Seriously?! I was joking when I posted that comment!
Yep, I am one hundred percent honest...you do NOT want to know how often planes get lost/off course.....just think of that when ya get on an airliner.....now its less common due to GPS... unless you set up the nav -system improperly or thee is a failure...the pilot is depending on the instruments and if it tells him he is on course he may not have any way to know they aren't flying into restricted airspace over a Russian island with a Mig Interceptor coming up behind ya.
@@wbnc66 Oh, God! Do I want to know about the MiG?
It got orders to fire on the intruder...and the pilot fired.....Airliners don't do well against missiles....its known as "Flight 007"
This is my most favorite of your deserved stories!
Another amazing video from THG! Thank you for sharing this video and history!
I spent years at Eielson AFB in Alaska. The "lore" of the base included a story that supposedly occurred in the 1950's. Budget constraints or possibly logistics problem found the B-29 squadron with no practice bombs so they "procured" a shipment of flower from the base chow hall consisting of 50 pound bags. As the tail goes the bomb bay doors of one of the B-29's failed to close after a bomb run and on turning final several of the bags slid out the open bomb bay one of which crashed through the roof of a house in Moose Creek Alaska, a small hamlet about 2 miles north of the main runway. So someone was bombed with "Gold Medal" during the Korean War.
Flour or flower?
Mana from Heaven?
I live in Prince William Sound area of Alaska. It gets so goddamned cold up there in Fairbanks, it more than likely froze SOLID before it hit the cabin so I'll bet it didn't look as cool as it could have in a warmer climate!!
...flour...tale...
Training missions out of what is now Goodfellow AFB routinely dropped flour bombs. Local ranchers permitted the military to place stones in fields to resemble the shape of battleships.
My cosin lives right next to the dallhart airport and has a bomb in his backyard from training
Gaming sentry cool, My uncle has a piece of the titanic in his backyard.
My aunt has the wheel that hit Aryton Senna and killed him; it landed in her lap at the race. True story
I have a piece of a Roman well in my house...
I found a cannonball from the civil war while digging around the dirt at my elementary school. It sat in my backyard for years before I found out what it was.
I have a 9 cylinder aircraft engine stuck in my shed for some reason
Thanks for making these.
I could watch you're wonderfully made videos all day. Thank you.
"They accidentally bombed neutral Switzerland over 70 times." They bombed Switzerland intentionally on at least a few occasions. The US and England were upset about Switzerland staying fully neutral and not allowing either side to use their airspace, shooting down foreign military planes that ended up in their airspace, and capturing the crews who flew into their airspace.
They say you learn something every day, and today I learned Switzerland was bombed during the war, even though it was accidental.
Always enjoy a good piece of Aviation history. Another gem. Thank you, History Guy.
That was a piece of history I never knew. Thanks and keep up the fantastic work!
Imagine if school was like this, instead of boring as hell.
I suspect that this incident would spawn a class action suit for mental anguish today
America wasn't populated with snowflakes then.
@@xaenon Not many snowflakes in July.
@@6yjjk The snowflakes I'm referring to exist everywhere and in all climates. They suck the life out of everything they encounter, and the worst part is, they're breeding.
@@xaenon I knew what you meant. :)
Back then, it was "no harm no foul", besides that we were at war, for real, not saber rattling with the Soviets, or some CIA banana war, or a "police action", but a real war, war. Gasoline, coffee and sugar were being rationed. Imagine a snowflake without his Starbuck's Coffee for people who don't know what coffee is, let alone without any gas for his Subaru. Next try to draft him into the army, and see how many excuses he can come up with, while he tries to puncture his ear drums with a safety pin.
The History Guy is great. I send some of his videos to one grandson who told me history was his least favorite subject, because it was just reading and too boring. I thank him for his research and work putting these together for other.
Once again you teach me. Again I'm grateful. You are the history guy...for real. U be da man!
Another great video History Guy, congratulations on your 100,000th viewer, how about a video on Rick Rescorla.
I love your channel and am laughing because this is the second story to touch on a distant relative. My wife’s grandmother lived in Boise City.
My grandfather (also named Dan Sickles a distant relative of another of your stories) told me a story about when he was in the Air Force stationed in Europe in the 50’s. The British were visiting in their Canberra Bombers and overheard the base commander brag about how his base was impenetrable to air strikes.
The next morning on a weekend they showed up, opened the bomb bay doors and proceeded to bomb the base with toilet paper.
My grandfather thought it was hilarious. Until he was part of the group tasked with cleanup..
The brilliant thing about about this channel is that it never gets old. The history guy is an excellent, passionate storyteller. He speaks with a friendly authority, very believable. I am sure his views and subscriptions will just continue to slowly but steadily grow. This channel will be around and popular for a very long time.
Just awesome story telling! You have a gift!
Wow I used to live just under 50 miles from Boise City, OK in Clayton, NM and I knew there was an old airfield south of Dalhart but I never heard about any bombing of Boise City. Very cool that one of the History Guy's episodes would hit that close to a former home, Thank you History Guy.
It must have been wonderful living in America during a time when they took stuff like this in stride. When people didn't get freaked out about everything.
Yes. You mean without the left and the self-serviant damage their polictical agenda creates.
@@workhardism No I guess he means when stupid people didn't politicise everything and just got on with what they had to do - sorta taking responsibility for themselves rather than hiding behind 'rights' or being a political jerk
Bibles were banned from public schools, the Ten Commandments were defaced from public display and then we all got stupid.
There was a war going on ... a war we could still lose ...
Thats because they were more freaked out about the Axis. Then later, the Soviets. People where in a constant state of freaked out for about 40 years.
Another great episode, Professor!
I thought I knew a lot about WWII. This is a new one on me! Thanks for this channel. Excellent tidbits... certainly worthy of remembering.
Thanks THG.. I did not know Gomer Pyle was a navigator in WW2 . :)
No, it was his Dad, but the fruit didn't fall far from the tree! (Not that was gonna, with Pyle Sr. in charge!)
History guy ranks up there with the very popular classics professor at u. Washington...packed standing to hear his lectures.
Thanks, plenty of good chuckles!
I love these little history briefs!
Thank you for this, My grandfather, John A. Atkins, was head of the Civil Defense in Boice City. He sent a telegram to Dalhart Air Base after the bombing letting them know that there were no injuries. Interesting footnote, after the incident they put a sign up in the mess hall at Dalhart it read, "Remember the Alamo, remember Pearl Harbor, and please REMEMBER BOISE CITY!"
I did read about your grandfather- sources seemed to differ as to whether it was the sheriff or the "bomb warden" who contacted Dalhart. I am sorry that I left him out. I also intended to mention the sign in the conclusion and for got that too! Thanks for bringing both up!
Wow, that 15,500 people killed during training really hit home how big WW2 actually was... That is just an amazing fact and really puts everything in perspective! Great video btw!
Yeah, and that’s just Army Air Corps pilots and flight crews. If I understood correctly.
I really enjoy all of these short videos that you produce. Thank you so much for your efforts.
This is really great stuff. Please keep them coming!
Back then, everyone would shrug it off, and repair the damage themselves. But, in 2018 everyone would sue the Air Force for a Hundred Bazillion dollars! ;- )
Yeah, because back then you wouldn't get a bazillion dollar fine from town inspectors if you tried to fix something yourself instead of calling "professional repair service" which would charge you bazillion dollars to (badly) plug one hole in the wall of which they pay half to inspectors after.
We want history guy placemats with history to read while you’re eating
What a great marketing idea!
Excellent idea, I tell my kids little stories from history & geography at dinner. My 16 year old daughter want's to be a History professor as a result. Hi from Brisbane.
Great for teaching kids history! Even the adults would love them!
FANTASTIC idea for placemats !
Fantastic Episode. Great job History Guy,..keep it up!
Keep up the good work, History Guy.
"Still booming, 1993..." Absolutely fascinating...
Particularly clever since "Boomer" has special meaning in Oklahoma.
From the classic 1949 film "12 O'Clock High"; Col. Savage has just fired Lt. Col. Ben Gately as air exec due to incompetence, here is part of the reaming he got after being told his new assignment was to retrain screwups:
"...Because in it you're gonna get every deadbeat in the outfit. Every man with a penchant for head colds. If there's a bombardier who can't hit his plate with his fork, you get him. If there's a navigator who can't find the men's room, you get him. Because you rate him."
Great film and good memory but wasn’t Savage a one star General in the movie?
I was thinking that same line. And Savage was a One Star General.
... Great movie. He was a one star, not a colonel.
This is the finest stuff on TH-cam (and This Old Tony). Thanks History Guy, I now have some extra road trips to do when I retire. Cheers.
This one’s a good story History Guy. Love this episode’s bow tie as well. I travel to the pan handle at least twice a year and never knew there had been an army air Corp training accident there. Every time I think you have told me the most interesting thing about history I could know.........your history knowledge is impeccable. So is your narrative. I love this channel.
I also noticed Clark Gable on the practice gun turret.
The Army assigned him to make a film to recruit aerial gunners. He qualified as an aerial gunner and flew five combat missions.
as an okie nobody goes to the panhandle on purpose
Except for tornadoes.
The only thing between Oklahoma City and Denver is a barbed wire fence that land in the panhandle of both stars and in Colorado, New Mexico too ain’t nothing there to brag about good grief. What’s the difference between Oklahoma and Texas? Somebody’s going to have to show me because my lying eyes don’t see a difference
Preston Flowers, US 287 going through the panhandle is the worst pavement anywhere in America.
@@Matthew_Eitzman There are worse roads around here, but they dont connect any towns that have a population more than 1000. Go drive down Highway 94 in east Colorado...
when traveling that is one of the few places I can't get cell phone service.
I really enjoy your history lessons, informative, well presented and great topics!
The funiest video I've seen in a while, Thanks History Guy! This was Historic...
I guess these are those "responsible B-17 owners" I keep hearing about
Thanks for a fascinating collection of pictures and facts. The death toll of home-country Air Force training accidents (15,500) was awful. The *_contrails_* developing from propeller disturbance through saturated cold air (the gradual process beautifully illustrated at 5:25 minute mark) should dispel the beliefs of Chemtrail Adherants, but I know it won't!
dav snow Upon what does the moisture condense to form a contrail? Serious question!
@@kpowers74 *Contrails* (condensation trails formed usually at high altitudes and low temperature) can be caused by localised changes in pressure such as when the aerofoil-shape of the propeller blade passes through it at rapid RPM, as seen in the picture I mentioned earlier.
The resulting sudden change in pressure causes the water vapor present in the air to rapidly lose temperature, thus condense into water droplets and freeze into tiny ice particles which are visible. Its not necessary for the vapor to condense onto _a surface._
Condensation occurs naturally in the free atmosphere as clouds, and you can also see this similarly happen when a soda bottle is opened and the sudden drop in pressure (as the carbon dioxide escapes) causes a drop in temperature and the water vapor becomes a visible collection of tiny water droplets. See extensive description in Wikipedia.
So the water attracts to water?
I didn't say I was psychic.
Somehow I knew you were going to say that. Strange.
Very well researched,excellent as usual,BRAVO.
My Hometown! My family & myself actually knew the people quoted in your segment. I personally knew some those folks, but many had passed by the time I came along in 1957.
The background on the bomber was new to me & gave more substance to the lore of my quirky little hometown.
Thank You!
I have total respect for these brave young men and what they did and sacrificed to liberate Europe however my father served in France, Belgium and Germany during the liberation said when the Luftwaffe came over we ducked, when the British went over the Germans ducked and when the Yanks went over we all ducked.
Hello there sir. Please consider a piece on Colonel Alexander Gardner. He's no where to be seen on you tube and is an American that deserves to be remembered. Thankyou. 👍
If there was some actual concrete information on the guy, it might make a good story, however, it seems like a lot of hearsay and story telling.
@@aussiemilitant4486agreed but that could be said about alot of peoples 'personal' history. Alot of Alexanders travels before his employment in the Sikh Empire are certainly hard to corroborate but after that time no. His 'memoirs' are certainly an interesting read.
Wow this is my home town! I heard this story many, many times. Thanks for the post!
What a great video. *:)*
It appeals to my insatiable appetite for trivia. I'd never heard of this incident, but thanks to your incredible channel I've learned something new. Your channel continues to bring entertaining and educational content to TH-cam. Thank you.
My Grandfather taught care and maintenance to B-17 bomber crews in the day time and helped load bombs on the B-17s at night. He was stationed in Michigan and Nebraska from late 1943 to 1945. I wonder if any of the crews that bombed the wrong practice targets ended up in the 9th AIRFORCE aka the American Luftwaffe who were notorious for missing there targets and bombing American positions ??
My Dad as boy use to watch the B-17's take off and land at Harvard Air force base in Nebraska.
Awesome! Learned about this in Oklahoma history class. Maybe you could do an episode on how Oklahoma City stole the State Seal of Oklahoma from the city of Guthrie (my home town) in the middle of the night in 1910 and became the state capitol.
That almost started a war. Shit was crazy back then.
Had a good chuckle, thank you.
Another great and very well told story, thanks for sharing!