As a new f2p player who is ending chapter 1 of the wuwa I feel the game is unfair to f2p (it is my first time playing open world gacha btw) I feel like my time playing is meaningless because I don't have enough premium currency to do 80 pull I never used them until now just to find out I'm 30ish pulls short but aside from that I'm liking it so far
@@violetstxr rather amazing they give you a ticket to get a five star character of your choice for FREE 10 Radiant Tides and 10 Crystal Solvent for free in the start of the game and i'm free to play and i have every character but Changli because i missed it so Hmm could you be a Genshin fan perhaps...
I think it's because, genshin frogs are afraid, that there can't be a better game than genshin, Their world will shatter, because they have invested so much time and money in a Greedy and time consuming game like genshin, and now there is better game with more Player friendly than genshin, and since they can't just leave genshin because they have invested so much money and time in it, they just want to downplay wuwa hear and their, So that they can satisfy themselves that yeah my money and time were not wasted. Genshin frogs just can't accept reality. Rather than how to improve their game, they are more worried that how quickly WUWA is improving😂.
Nothing wrong with smoking herbs , at least potheads smile and are quiet These clowns are so butthurt because Natlan sucks, they seek copium shitting on Wuwa, which im sure they play secretly
@@somepasserby3950 there are menthol cigarettes which are basically tobacco+mint, as for just pure mint leaves I think it's considered a "herbal" smoke which is supposed to be better than normal cigarettes but still not great
As a Genshin player I can honestly say that I am having a blast playing WuWa, I only started playing last week and just having fun going around collecting echos and just exploring the world.
@@ShadowsBorne2 pro tip: take it easy. Is still a gacha game and content can dry up real fast. Take your time and enjoy ( but use it wisely) the skip button. :D
If WuWa and Genshin had Launched on the same day, and followed there trajectories up to WuWa 2.0, Genshin would be in the same state as TOF was releasing just after Genshin.
I remember Hoyo never fixing the bug where Genshit crashed within 5-10 seconds of launch on integrated GPUs, I don't remember them fixing it for months lol
Just so we're aware, Pokke bred that toxic community of his. Always baiting either side to attack one another and then feigns ignorance towards why his community is toxic af. He is currently crashing out on this and dug the grave even deeper with his latest L opinion on HSR's powercreep
@@forceejNo CC have tried to defend him, all of them try to refute his argument. Don’t make up stuff for the sake of drama, you’re no different than him
I've said it once, I'll say it again: the constant dogpiling on WuWa by Genshills is likely borne of the fact that inwardly? They're *terrified.* Natlan was RAUCOUSLY mid despite all their glazing and now Wuthering Waves is on track to become an absolute threat to the cost they've sunk into an inferior experience.
@@Stixxy Nah. I prefer cute and wholesome waifus. And WuWa blessed me with that, and at only 4-stars so I don't have to go broke. I also love and have Taoqi.
I love how haters thinks that the carlotta pv is somehow "botted" through ads they said, SO.... Wheres my ad? Wheres my ad Kuro? I don't see one? Guess which is rarer? Kuro ads or Pulling 5*
Letting go of genshin and moving onto wuthering waves felt exactly like I’m finally letting go of a toxic ex and dating a man who actually loves and cares about me 😭
Ignoring the fact that most revenue sources, especially sensortower, just makes the figures up, using revenue as a metric for how good a game is is as smooth brained as it gets. All revenue charts show people is how predatory a gacha game is, the higher the number just means people had to shell out more money to just get the bare minimum of what they wanted from the game. It says nothing about a games quality, popularity or anything else besides how greedy the devs are. The reason WuWa will never beat Hoyo games is simply because players get so much more in WuWa for the same amount of money that they would have spent in Genshin. Besides getting more free stuff overall in WuWa, we also have a guarenteed weapon banner and you can buy 2 dupes of the new 5 star from the shop with currency you earned from pulling. Even whales will spend way less because they only need 4 copies of a 5 star to max out their sequences (again due to the 2 dupes from the shop). Its crazy that people think its a good thing that they're getting milked by Hoyo but we've all seen these peoples posts so we know they're not too bright so....
One thing I found to be really hilarious watching all this weird beef is that these genshin weirdos that love to talk trash about wuwa..do the same thing to zzz which is made by the SAME company they praise so much
Had a friend who is a hardcore genshin player. Bro even whaled so hard for the Natlan comp I had him play a bit of Rinascita a few days ago, at that time I left him be and went to sleep for a quick 1~2 hours nap. Bro was malding ToA when I woke up, insanely malding. He said to me "yea there's no way mavuika with her premium team can compete with this" Bro got converted in just a few hours lol
I’m Italian and see Kuro taking inspiration and elements from Italy (Venice in particular) really touched my heart. Even the Harbingers from GI are based on Commedia dell’arte, a form of theater from Venice as well is nice. But that pizza tropicale (pineapple over pizza) is pure blasphemy
I don't really understand it. People are like: Genshin has more players.. Yeah i mean Genshin had a Pandamic buff like.. people just grabbed and played it. After investing time and money ofc its hard to let go. Just play whatever the fck you want. Genshin simply is abit more casual than Wuwa and some people simply cant get arround Wuwa combat and thats fine. I had to stop genshin because after playing games like Tower of Fantasy, Genshin simply was to slow and also easy for me.. I spend money made Raiden C6 and a few other chars up to c4 with weapons. But man i just had to swallow my pride and stop genshin because.. If its not fun anymore and i start getting toxic simply because i do something i dont enjoy.. It was just not worth it.
I quit in wuwa 3 weeks in due to boredom so that is a false premise. Wuwa had better gameplay for sure....but the depth of the worldbuilding was as deep as my 5 year olds kiddy pool. Now I hear 2.0 is better, maybe it is, but they already burnt their first impression so I doubt I'll find time to get back to it. I'm looking forward to Ananta. I don't hate WuWa, just wasn't for me. When I was an angsty teen I probably would have liked it better. The wuwa community is garbage too. Always a dick measuring contest with ya'll. I don't see drama baiting genshin creators like I do wuwa ones. Of course a lot of Genshin creators are just too negative, so both games have their issues.
@@logikx1325 well genshin takes CCP approach of if you criticise them then you get send to the shadow realm. Thats why genshin CC cant say anything bad about the game so you can only see the positivity part.
You guys put me off from giving it another shot. I finally tried it on ps (instead of phone like last time). I still like Genshin. I am interested in learning the combat system. Genshin is more of creating a strategy and excecuting it repdeatly. You can customize the difficulty by sacrificing survability or using weaker dps's. Wuthering Waves so far seems more about learning each character and mastering them. Instead of mastering 1. Takes brain processing power I don't have. The enemies are easier than Dark Souls though.
@@jex-the-notebook-guy1002 I mean, its not that complex? If you wanna min max, you watch a guide just like Genshin. In fact, everything you said about Genshin goes the same for Wuwa. Yes its a little more complex but its nowhere near complex to disable smooth brained players unless you wanna go and make it super technical with quickswap or some other microtricks and you dont lose that much dps.
Day 9 and I'm still having fun with 2.0. One of the best updates ever made. And there's plenty of stuff to do yet. I still need to find the flying Lorelai (I saw a short about it) and much more. I don't understand how someone can get soo happy for being a sheep, "my multibilionare chinese company made more more than yours!" is such a retarded argument. If you play 2.0 as a F2P you will get Carlotta and possible her weapon with easy, ofc it will make less money. And thank god for that, I'd rather not be milked of all my money just to play with a character I think it's fun. GI players spend billions just to see Da wei cry about how they can't fix the game. I kinda feel bad for ZZZ players that need to share room with GI.
As a Genshin player who doesn't hate wuwa, though I personally found it boring in 3 weeks, I think to each their own is the way it should be. The hypocrisy is unreal in these kinds of comments and videos. Do you even hear yourselves? Are you capable of objective self analysis?
@@logikx1325I was a genshin player too, and what I hate the most is the clash between both fandoms. It’s a fact that wuwa is better in terms of listening to their fan base and actually implementing meaningful improvements with each patch. Very generous with rewards as well, and makes it very playable as a F2P. Genshin IMO, has a better story and chemistry between characters. I adore both games, esp genshin since I’ve had alotta memories with friends playing the game. Both clearly have their issues, but comparing genshin (a 5 yr old game) to wuwa (7 month old game) is kinda…insane 😭 as much as I wish I could say I still love genshin, I just can’t because they obv only care abt money and couldn’t care less abt the player base. They’ve shown that time and time again, and hadn’t changed much since, even with the rise in competition with wuwa.
the hoyoshills trying to get Wuwa down using narratives instead of getting GI devs to do their job instead of being lazy asses and make their game better is just hilarious
@Konpekikaminari Definitely fair. Aight, but Selena invited you specifically as an Ascendant in her final social link. It was confirmed you were pin pals and that shit was beyond wholesome. Then she vanishes for 3 years, lmao. It felt like star cross lovers lol. I will say... for their 1st collab, WuWa needs to introduce Pyroath Lucia and Crimson Weave Alpha in 1 collab. That way the PGR base doesn't attack each other lol.
I absolutely loved this vid xD I definitely needed that. The amount of hate Wuwa gets is massive, but what can you do people hate seeing others succeed! Anyways keep up the good content!!
Completely irrelevant to the video, but I just started playing Wuthering Waves a couple days ago, with only around 6 hours of play time, and Carlotta is super fun and OP!
New ps5 player here, kuro really wants me to play. Got carlotta after 30 pulls, then got double weapon pull at 70. 30 pulls later got calcharo and carlotta in same 10. Tonight got another calotta at 12 pity. I bought the battle pass and month currency thing as a small thanks. Enjoying the game so far and looking forward to going to the new area
I've been playing since 2.6 , and I really like to play it but when i saw wuthering waves for the first time i decided to gave a shot and oh man i'm sure that i'm having a blast playing wuwa nowadays. Good gameplay, good graphics, a supreme voice acting it has everything that i wanted. You can call me a kuro bot as many times as you want bc i will not care .
I once dealt with genshills, and these dudes defending this game with their lives. It's tiring to argue with people without brains and I tell you, the best course of action is to ignore them, and let them rot in their game
I felt a lot of emotions in this 2.0. I feel their love and hard work kurogames. In making this game by listening to every input from the players, their hard work was extraordinary. I pray that those involved in this game are filled with wonderful days.
thats their strats, they need to change their profile to disguise as a kurobot. i seen a lot of hoyoshill disguising as a kurobot, they go to a hoyo community and tryna make toxic comments
It is actually their strategy. They also pretend to be kuro fans and trying to instigate war to other upcoming gacha games like NTE and Ananta. These people really really trying their best to paint the kuro community as the toxic one. They know their hate forces will be divided once other open world gacha games will release of they are resorting to pretending tactics. The absolute dedication of these hoyodogs are unfathomable and cartoonishly stupid that you'll question is they are even real human beings.
Idk man, I have the impression that the true whales who can dump money on a gacha game in a heartbeat are just gonna mind their own business. Based on my experience on the internet, the loud ones are usually either the people who are already brimming with envy in their lives, or people who decided to spend their hard earned money on gacha games who didn't give back to them. But that's just my opinion, I might be wrong 😂
I took a break from WuWa since the first time Zhezhi first appeared. (Actually, I got stuck on one of the ascension trials, and basically HSR, Reverse 1999, ZZZ, and mostly Vampire Survivors took over for a while.) Came back, and yeah WuWa runs a whole lot more smoothly on my PC. And Carlotta basically took over. Not much more needs to be said, tbh. Other than Zhezhi still doesn't like me...
these guys ain't nothing compared to aman mondal (the guy who wrote long ass essay on gigguk wuwa video) even now you can still see him trash talking wuwa with long ass comment in some video🤣
Genshin 1.0 is better than WuWa 2.0? Who the ignorant frick is that? Did he really play Genshin 1.0? As far as I remember, that was hell. Clicking fast til your fingers hurt for upgrading anything? Chasing chest loots downhill while running out of stamina doing so? A jean main blowing domain rewards down the drain? Clipping down the map? Farming hell because of stamina limits? Artifact rng sucks both luck and stamina faster than typing LUCK? This guy know NOTHING.
those who blindly hate will continue to believe WuWa will fail. if they try the game without prejudice, they'll realize it's better than Genshin and that WuWa is thriving. and also Sunk Cost Fallacy and Stockholm Syndrome are a hell of a problem of Genshills lol
here before "Here's what you dont know about wuwa" "5 things i hate about wuwa" "wuwa is over" "wuwa is over v2" "wuwa is finished" "wuwa is finish v2" "the wuwa situation is crazy!!" "i can explain the drama" "why im not interested in the upcoming 69.420 patch" "Wuwa made a huge mistake!! 😱😱" "wuwa drama explained" add more if you can, make a bingo card out of it 🤣🤣
As someone who has played genshin off and on since 2020 with MULTIPLE accounts because i just roll like that and over 2000 hours played at this point, WuWa is better in almost every way, the list of everything it does better will take to long in this insignificant little comment section that no one will see or care about, so i won't bother, BUT, sorry genshin fanboys. i know a better game when i play it.
Honestly i played genshin on release but I keep leaving every update as it gets boring and frustrating to grind especially for wishing and building character levels, but in wuwa even after release im still hyped and never leaved until the latest update.
what i find funny is the fact that instead of pointing fingers at wuwa, they should point the fingers at mihoyo for showing ZERO intrest in making genshin a good game. the issue is, mihoyo keeps treating genshin like a cash cow, instead of spending resources making the game actually good. its really sad , because genshin is just a shell of what could have otherwise have been. considering the fact that genshin has been out for over 4 years now, and them being ignorant of people wishing for improvements really shows how little shit they give . i played for 3 years, but last year i just couldn't get myself to keep playing . what is even funnier is the fact that hsr and zzz outclasses genshin in every aspect, and those games are made by the same company. wuwa is an amazing game that only is getting better and better, and i guess deep down these people that keep attacking wuwa knows that genshin is left to rot, and the hate the idea that another game company than mihoyo has been able to find somewhat of success with the open world formula as genshin did. don't get me wrong, as much as i am shitting on genshin, it has a few strong point. story telling and the open world exploration is amazing in genshin, and i do kinda feel like genshin still does it best. but when that is the only strong points after 4 years, it can only take you as far. just seems to me that mihoyo has a strange obssesion with not giving people more beacuse they think that it will take away from the casual approach the game has, and according to them it is because they don't want to induce stress in their players....
What does the amount of money a game makes equate to the game is good ( the company just knows how to make money and how to make players spend money if they are in the top 10 )
They are so busy referring to sensor tower or comparing Wuwa to genshin and ToF (all the while manufacturing absurd reasoning for why Wuwa will fall) that they either forgot to play their own games or forgot to fact check😂
I saw this guy posting a video saying that Mavuika can ride the bike infinitely after getting her to C6. I was like bruh you can buy a real motorbike for the amount to get her to C6 and that too she rides it so slow even sprinting is better 🤣
Their insecurity starts to show since they thought Wuwa is going to be a fart in the wind for 2 months and dies but that didn't happen they kept cooking patch to patch and now they are at an all time high. It probably Hits even harder with the fact that nerumeru was asked by hoyo to not play Wuthering waves
Stix, i would like to draw your attention further on the comparison between Mavuika and Carlotta's trailer. Carlotta's trailer may have had far more views but Mavuika's trailer has far more likes. 67k vs 157k. Its unreal. Edit : currently, it is at 160k so 160k vs 67k.
Heck, I never really played a gacha game like Genshin in my life until a few months ago when I started infinity nikki, watched tectone play WuWa, saw the combat looked cool, saw ENCORE and fell in love(she's so adorable), now I have more enthusiasm to get on Wuwa instead of IN.
Genshills can't even come up with am interesting insult for WuWa. Withered Wives or underwhelming Waves would have worked better. They just go for Flopping it doesn't even sound right
People who come to a different game to hate show that they are insecure with the game they play. If you’re happy and satisfied with what you have, you wouldn’t go through many lengths to put another thing down
Man PGR never got the love it deserved, wuwa didn't do to well on launch either, and to see wuwa and kuro get all this attention brings tears to my eyes, I love how wuwa haters are making the game more popular cause most of em are genshin fatefuls(not to many take them seriously)
Everytime a New Streamer plays wuwa, There's always people start talking about genshin. They spread misinformation and make excuses about why they not playing wuwa. I have legit seen a mod who saying 'I refuse to play wuwa cause it is made by same artist, same engine,same company '. I was lurking there, i didn't say anything because it was beyond pathetic. I have stop taking them seriously.
Ah yes, these self-proclaimed multi-year-experience Gacha experts with PhD degrees in Economics, Finance, Statistics, Tarot, and Business Management from HoyoTard Community.
What are YOUR thoughts on WuWa 2.0 so far?
I NEEDZ CARLOTTA !!!! DAMN THE STOOPID 50/50 !!!! lol
As a new f2p player who is ending chapter 1 of the wuwa I feel the game is unfair to f2p (it is my first time playing open world gacha btw) I feel like my time playing is meaningless because I don't have enough premium currency to do 80 pull I never used them until now just to find out I'm 30ish pulls short but aside from that I'm liking it so far
I'm not sure about this game is gacha anymore
Absolute cinema. ❤ Can't stop flying around...
@@violetstxr rather amazing they give you a ticket to get a five star character of your choice for FREE 10 Radiant Tides and 10 Crystal Solvent for free in the start of the game and i'm free to play and i have every character but Changli because i missed it so Hmm could you be a Genshin fan perhaps...
They forgot to bring the clown masks for the Carnevale!
LMAO
Indeed
They're really letting anyone perform in the Carnivale, huh. Xd
Good One
Wuwa already had clown echoes, so why not?
The amount of dedication and hate to WuWa is insane
Yes it is. And we're here to farm it. ;D
Reminds me how people hated on Tower of Fantasy non stop since launch.
@@kaczan3 tbh tof was a failure even on launch
I think it's because, genshin frogs are afraid, that there can't be a better game than genshin, Their world will shatter, because they have invested so much time and money in a Greedy and time consuming game like genshin, and now there is better game with more Player friendly than genshin, and since they can't just leave genshin because they have invested so much money and time in it, they just want to downplay wuwa hear and their, So that they can satisfy themselves that yeah my money and time were not wasted. Genshin frogs just can't accept reality. Rather than how to improve their game, they are more worried that how quickly WUWA is improving😂.
@@Ldrago_K2 it will not shatter but, both games will make money bc of popularity and controversy and ccs have free content lmao
Hoyoshills got tired of picking mint and started smoking it
Wtf this is sooop funny
Nothing wrong with smoking herbs , at least potheads smile and are quiet
These clowns are so butthurt because Natlan sucks, they seek copium shitting on Wuwa, which im sure they play secretly
Wait wait, thats make me wonder. How good is it an actual mint get smoked?
@@somepasserby3950 there are menthol cigarettes which are basically tobacco+mint, as for just pure mint leaves I think it's considered a "herbal" smoke which is supposed to be better than normal cigarettes but still not great
As a Genshin player I can honestly say that I am having a blast playing WuWa, I only started playing last week and just having fun going around collecting echos and just exploring the world.
Did you reach Rinascita?
Come join the dark side!
Jk jk
@@Konpekikaminari Not yet thanks to work, I just finished the Jué bit in the story and planning to play alot over the weekend.
@@ShadowsBorne2 pro tip: take it easy. Is still a gacha game and content can dry up real fast. Take your time and enjoy ( but use it wisely) the skip button. :D
@@ShadowsBorne2 you are in for a *_treat_* when you get there
If WuWa and Genshin had Launched on the same day, and followed there trajectories up to WuWa 2.0, Genshin would be in the same state as TOF was releasing just after Genshin.
So much this
I remember Hoyo never fixing the bug where Genshit crashed within 5-10 seconds of launch on integrated GPUs, I don't remember them fixing it for months lol
in the spirit of the italian inspired rinascita “they arent a pagliaccio, theyre the whole circo”
As an Italian I love this. Have a like.
As a non Italian, I don't understand at all but I feel it, Also have a like
As a non-italian i understood what you meant, get another like 🤌
… have a like!😂😂😂😂❤
You mean Rinassìta, right?
That dude who said 1.0 Genshin was better than 2.0 doesn't know the pain of 120 Resin cap.
or the quests that needed resin to be ulocked
Bro tryna tell you is the OG mint picker
I've been playing genshin since beta. I bet these people don't know the black face bug in 1.0. Shit didn't get fixed for months
@RejectedInch i dont remember this, maybe it was so bad my mind decided to forget it
Nor the frustration of not being able to use characters that were sent to expeditions.
Just so we're aware, Pokke bred that toxic community of his. Always baiting either side to attack one another and then feigns ignorance towards why his community is toxic af. He is currently crashing out on this and dug the grave even deeper with his latest L opinion on HSR's powercreep
That dude is literally hot garbage just like all of his takes. Can’t even understand pokke half the time.
I’m baffle that other CCs are trying to defend Pokke when everything that is happening to him was self made.
Pokke looking like Steve Urkel "Did I do that?"@@forceej
@@forceejNo CC have tried to defend him, all of them try to refute his argument.
Don’t make up stuff for the sake of drama, you’re no different than him
@@forceejlol, even his biased friend tectone call him out on his dumb take, wtf are you on?
I've said it once, I'll say it again: the constant dogpiling on WuWa by Genshills is likely borne of the fact that inwardly? They're *terrified.* Natlan was RAUCOUSLY mid despite all their glazing and now Wuthering Waves is on track to become an absolute threat to the cost they've sunk into an inferior experience.
They mad that they don't have Lumi.
Or Zani. Are you gonna pull for her?
@@Stixxy Nah. I prefer cute and wholesome waifus. And WuWa blessed me with that, and at only 4-stars so I don't have to go broke. I also love and have Taoqi.
Some of the G.I.P they like Lumi tho😏
She turns WuWa into an Ace Combat game 😂.
2.0 gives us jet mouse and tactical crazy girl, anyone would be mad😂
Find yourself a woman (or man) as dedicated as WuWa haters
first step : talk to a woman (ain't happening buddy)
@@plo5829step 2: go in jail for "harassment"
@@Onigumo.Step 3:profit?
@@Onigumo.step 3. Drop the soap (on purpose)
Genshin 1.0: A character sent in an expedition couldn't be used until the expedition time was over.
WuWa 2.0: You can fly. With every character.
I love how haters thinks that the carlotta pv is somehow "botted" through ads they said, SO.... Wheres my ad? Wheres my ad Kuro? I don't see one?
Guess which is rarer?
Kuro ads or Pulling 5*
You made me realise that I haven't seen a wuwa add since launch 😂
@@Dragonfang-sz1jmwuwa had no ads since Shorekeeper if I was chronically online on my break
Yeah, same. If the majority of ads are from Wuwa, I don't mind turning off adblocker
The only ad i see from wuwa came from people in my local wuwa group sharing it lol
They just self reporting that they can't afford TH-cam Premium lmao
I'd rather be called kurbot than a hoyoshill. I'd wear kurobot name with pride!
People dont care if its proven false from 100% of non affiliated sources if it fits their own mindset/agendas , its unfortunately the same IRL
Yup, major L for some people. But that's what I'm here to clear up!
Yup, I unfortunately know from experience -_-
Oh right... I forgot falt earthers exist
As a Genshin player, I admit, the game had lost its impact for me...
But now as a WuWa player from 1.0 to 2.0, the game still wuthered my waves....
Letting go of genshin and moving onto wuthering waves felt exactly like I’m finally letting go of a toxic ex and dating a man who actually loves and cares about me 😭
Sensortower is their gospel
Hoyo is their religion
AND DAWEI IS THEIR JESUS
call dawei jesus the way he wept
Ignoring the fact that most revenue sources, especially sensortower, just makes the figures up, using revenue as a metric for how good a game is is as smooth brained as it gets. All revenue charts show people is how predatory a gacha game is, the higher the number just means people had to shell out more money to just get the bare minimum of what they wanted from the game. It says nothing about a games quality, popularity or anything else besides how greedy the devs are.
The reason WuWa will never beat Hoyo games is simply because players get so much more in WuWa for the same amount of money that they would have spent in Genshin. Besides getting more free stuff overall in WuWa, we also have a guarenteed weapon banner and you can buy 2 dupes of the new 5 star from the shop with currency you earned from pulling. Even whales will spend way less because they only need 4 copies of a 5 star to max out their sequences (again due to the 2 dupes from the shop). Its crazy that people think its a good thing that they're getting milked by Hoyo but we've all seen these peoples posts so we know they're not too bright so....
@@ZaniWuwa the truth, the light, and dawei
hoyotards 14:6
So they are like the order in rinascita
One thing I found to be really hilarious watching all this weird beef is that these genshin weirdos that love to talk trash about wuwa..do the same thing to zzz which is made by the SAME company they praise so much
it happened also when HSR released , they are really weird folks.
Genshin player they even bullied subreddit and discord server r/kokomimain and r/signoramain which is also their own playerbase lol
They do since HSR dropped
And who began "genshin could never" were HSR players
@@Onigumo.Getting mad over truth is shitty behavior. Lol.
@@natebeal18 real and the toxic players from other gachas are ex genshin players
I think wuwa hates are just bored ... they really need to find something better to do.
But we're enjoying making content of them!
Well the game they play is boring AF so they need something to keep themselves entertained i guess
They out of stamina in whatever game they play
yep. Like a job. Mfers living on their parents savings become players like this.
Had a friend who is a hardcore genshin player. Bro even whaled so hard for the Natlan comp
I had him play a bit of Rinascita a few days ago, at that time I left him be and went to sleep for a quick 1~2 hours nap. Bro was malding ToA when I woke up, insanely malding. He said to me "yea there's no way mavuika with her premium team can compete with this"
Bro got converted in just a few hours lol
I'm having so much fun in Wuthering Waves 2.0 right now. This is beyond a gacha game.
Overrated
@@jex-the-notebook-guy1002 no one cares lmao play your genshin
@@zeroplayz305 why do you care?
Revenue only shows how predatory and paywalled their favorite Fomoverse are.
FOMOverse... Lovely, gonna use this from now
Speaking of exp. Yes, hsr was very much into power creep and fomo is insane, while zzz is probably the least predatory since skill is more important
@@christophealexander3262 Literally this. I also Play ZZZ, and Despite the Fomo for units, it can be solved with Skills
@@christophealexander3262hahaha you just realize this? 😂😂😂
surely love and deepspace is the best game ever! duh..m
I’m Italian and see Kuro taking inspiration and elements from Italy (Venice in particular) really touched my heart. Even the Harbingers from GI are based on Commedia dell’arte, a form of theater from Venice as well is nice. But that pizza tropicale (pineapple over pizza) is pure blasphemy
I suggest you read the in-game description of the pizza
It basically says how you should NEVER mention that dish infront of a Ragunnasi XD
Let's not forget that "vague" hint of Vatican looming over the story.
if you talk to NPCs around, they don't even take that as a "pizza".
I'm an asian and I love pineapple pizza so much
Zani held the devs at gun point
Never mind the hate comments, this man has his Carlotta stuck at lv20. Im judging.
THAT WAS FROM DAYS AGO!!!
@Stixxy Man imagine not having Carlotta maxed out an hour after pulling
Sameee what is bro even doing 😂
I don't really understand it. People are like: Genshin has more players.. Yeah i mean Genshin had a Pandamic buff like.. people just grabbed and played it. After investing time and money ofc its hard to let go. Just play whatever the fck you want. Genshin simply is abit more casual than Wuwa and some people simply cant get arround Wuwa combat and thats fine. I had to stop genshin because after playing games like Tower of Fantasy, Genshin simply was to slow and also easy for me.. I spend money made Raiden C6 and a few other chars up to c4 with weapons. But man i just had to swallow my pride and stop genshin because.. If its not fun anymore and i start getting toxic simply because i do something i dont enjoy.. It was just not worth it.
Trust when they download wuwa just to prove us wrong they get a taste of it and can’t go back 😂
LMAO probably.
I quit in wuwa 3 weeks in due to boredom so that is a false premise. Wuwa had better gameplay for sure....but the depth of the worldbuilding was as deep as my 5 year olds kiddy pool. Now I hear 2.0 is better, maybe it is, but they already burnt their first impression so I doubt I'll find time to get back to it. I'm looking forward to Ananta. I don't hate WuWa, just wasn't for me. When I was an angsty teen I probably would have liked it better. The wuwa community is garbage too. Always a dick measuring contest with ya'll. I don't see drama baiting genshin creators like I do wuwa ones. Of course a lot of Genshin creators are just too negative, so both games have their issues.
@@logikx1325 well genshin takes CCP approach of if you criticise them then you get send to the shadow realm. Thats why genshin CC cant say anything bad about the game so you can only see the positivity part.
You guys put me off from giving it another shot. I finally tried it on ps (instead of phone like last time). I still like Genshin. I am interested in learning the combat system. Genshin is more of creating a strategy and excecuting it repdeatly. You can customize the difficulty by sacrificing survability or using weaker dps's. Wuthering Waves so far seems more about learning each character and mastering them. Instead of mastering 1. Takes brain processing power I don't have. The enemies are easier than Dark Souls though.
@@jex-the-notebook-guy1002 I mean, its not that complex? If you wanna min max, you watch a guide just like Genshin. In fact, everything you said about Genshin goes the same for Wuwa. Yes its a little more complex but its nowhere near complex to disable smooth brained players unless you wanna go and make it super technical with quickswap or some other microtricks and you dont lose that much dps.
Day 9 and I'm still having fun with 2.0. One of the best updates ever made. And there's plenty of stuff to do yet. I still need to find the flying Lorelai (I saw a short about it) and much more.
I don't understand how someone can get soo happy for being a sheep, "my multibilionare chinese company made more more than yours!" is such a retarded argument. If you play 2.0 as a F2P you will get Carlotta and possible her weapon with easy, ofc it will make less money. And thank god for that, I'd rather not be milked of all my money just to play with a character I think it's fun.
GI players spend billions just to see Da wei cry about how they can't fix the game. I kinda feel bad for ZZZ players that need to share room with GI.
Wishing you luck in finding the Lorelei challenge. It's so pretty and cosy! Also, you can do it once a day because it resets, it seems.
Start calling WuWa haters what they really are: pathetic losers.
As a Genshin player who doesn't hate wuwa, though I personally found it boring in 3 weeks, I think to each their own is the way it should be. The hypocrisy is unreal in these kinds of comments and videos. Do you even hear yourselves? Are you capable of objective self analysis?
Pathetic losers that can fly for free.
Get it right next time hoyo investor
@@logikx1325I was a genshin player too, and what I hate the most is the clash between both fandoms. It’s a fact that wuwa is better in terms of listening to their fan base and actually implementing meaningful improvements with each patch. Very generous with rewards as well, and makes it very playable as a F2P. Genshin IMO, has a better story and chemistry between characters. I adore both games, esp genshin since I’ve had alotta memories with friends playing the game. Both clearly have their issues, but comparing genshin (a 5 yr old game) to wuwa (7 month old game) is kinda…insane 😭 as much as I wish I could say I still love genshin, I just can’t because they obv only care abt money and couldn’t care less abt the player base. They’ve shown that time and time again, and hadn’t changed much since, even with the rise in competition with wuwa.
the hoyoshills trying to get Wuwa down using narratives instead of getting GI devs to do their job instead of being lazy asses and make their game better is just hilarious
Stix... if we thought Kuro wasn't cooking enough, have you seen the new Selena reveal for PGR? She's absolutely gorgeous and has like 4 ults, lmao
I haven't, but I need to.
Just when you think Selena simply _cannot_ get prettier
@@Konpekikaminari Look, Alpha may be waifu... but Selena is soul mate. Change my mind lol
@@Cloudiroth462 I will certainly try...
Lucia: Pyroath straight up confesses to you
You can't beat that
@Konpekikaminari Definitely fair. Aight, but Selena invited you specifically as an Ascendant in her final social link. It was confirmed you were pin pals and that shit was beyond wholesome. Then she vanishes for 3 years, lmao. It felt like star cross lovers lol. I will say... for their 1st collab, WuWa needs to introduce Pyroath Lucia and Crimson Weave Alpha in 1 collab. That way the PGR base doesn't attack each other lol.
that guy betting on wuwa dying 2-3 months after release. what did he bet? his house? i want it 🤣
No, he is betting his 500 mints xD
They talk about december revenue in sensor tower, right? But 2.0 released this month, maybe wait for january revenue?
I absolutely loved this vid xD I definitely needed that. The amount of hate Wuwa gets is massive, but what can you do people hate seeing others succeed!
Anyways keep up the good content!!
Thanks man! I’m gonna turn this into a series! It’s a ton of fun to do!
Completely irrelevant to the video, but I just started playing Wuthering Waves a couple days ago, with only around 6 hours of play time, and Carlotta is super fun and OP!
Carlotta might not able to aim, but she can somehow deflect melee attacks with full charge attack and skill which is insane
New ps5 player here, kuro really wants me to play. Got carlotta after 30 pulls, then got double weapon pull at 70. 30 pulls later got calcharo and carlotta in same 10. Tonight got another calotta at 12 pity. I bought the battle pass and month currency thing as a small thanks. Enjoying the game so far and looking forward to going to the new area
Im happy for you 🙂🤜🏔
They're pulling the Streisand effect, the more they talk about how you shouldn't play it the more people look at it.
I've been playing since 2.6 , and I really like to play it but when i saw wuthering waves for the first time i decided to gave a shot and oh man i'm sure that i'm having a blast playing wuwa nowadays.
Good gameplay, good graphics, a supreme voice acting it has everything that i wanted. You can call me a kuro bot as many times as you want bc i will not care .
I once dealt with genshills, and these dudes defending this game with their lives. It's tiring to argue with people without brains and I tell you, the best course of action is to ignore them, and let them rot in their game
Some Genshin fans will sometimes resemble to me the "stop having fun" meme
I felt a lot of emotions in this 2.0. I feel their love and hard work kurogames. In making this game by listening to every input from the players, their hard work was extraordinary. I pray that those involved in this game are filled with wonderful days.
Genshin shills saying that the wuwa reddit has less people on it? Yeah cuz im playing it right now
Its rare to meet a sane GI player.
If people think that wuwa will go EoS due to the revenue stuff then the games below it would also have went EoS a long time ago if thats their logic
thank god im not that dumb and dropped genshin after inazuma, it seems later they brainwashed players at some point xd
🤝
Sumeru for me
@@LopaloosSame, that desert traumatized me!!!
same brother hahaha same
i play genshin on and off until inazuma cus my cousin kept glazing over it. puts me to sleep multiple times
The CEO says they will listen to the community and fix the game.
GI: It goes wrong.
Wuwa: It goes right.
Playing wuwa just got carlotta and her sig weapon f2p. The 2.0 patch was lit man now we can fly! What a time to be alive as a gacha gamer
Prove me if Im wrong... but the first guy dont have changli on profile while hating WW? xd
With copies as well😭😭😭
thats their strats, they need to change their profile to disguise as a kurobot. i seen a lot of hoyoshill disguising as a kurobot, they go to a hoyo community and tryna make toxic comments
I remember many of this hater used changli pfp for unknown reason.
It is actually their strategy. They also pretend to be kuro fans and trying to instigate war to other upcoming gacha games like NTE and Ananta. These people really really trying their best to paint the kuro community as the toxic one. They know their hate forces will be divided once other open world gacha games will release of they are resorting to pretending tactics.
The absolute dedication of these hoyodogs are unfathomable and cartoonishly stupid that you'll question is they are even real human beings.
I feel like the haters are whales that are having post-clarity and are deluding themselves to avoid regret spending so much money.
Idk man, I have the impression that the true whales who can dump money on a gacha game in a heartbeat are just gonna mind their own business. Based on my experience on the internet, the loud ones are usually either the people who are already brimming with envy in their lives, or people who decided to spend their hard earned money on gacha games who didn't give back to them.
But that's just my opinion, I might be wrong 😂
I took a break from WuWa since the first time Zhezhi first appeared. (Actually, I got stuck on one of the ascension trials, and basically HSR, Reverse 1999, ZZZ, and mostly Vampire Survivors took over for a while.)
Came back, and yeah WuWa runs a whole lot more smoothly on my PC. And Carlotta basically took over. Not much more needs to be said, tbh. Other than Zhezhi still doesn't like me...
They made hating wuwa a passion and a job
"How dare you use the ceo and the creator of the game as your source for revenue!"
“Untrustworthy!!!”
@@Stixxy lmao
these guys ain't nothing compared to aman mondal (the guy who wrote long ass essay on gigguk wuwa video)
even now you can still see him trash talking wuwa with long ass comment in some video🤣
lmao people spend so much on genshin it hurts them to leave that's why they talk brainless
Tower of Fantasy really catching strays everytime Wuwa and Genshin beef happens.
keep turning their hate to money stix
Lmao you bet I will! Easy $100 per video farming them.
@@Stixxy100$/video??? Damn, I gotta start farming it too I guess, these crops are bussing.
Genshin 1.0 is better than WuWa 2.0? Who the ignorant frick is that? Did he really play Genshin 1.0? As far as I remember, that was hell. Clicking fast til your fingers hurt for upgrading anything? Chasing chest loots downhill while running out of stamina doing so? A jean main blowing domain rewards down the drain? Clipping down the map? Farming hell because of stamina limits? Artifact rng sucks both luck and stamina faster than typing LUCK? This guy know NOTHING.
I still can't understand why they stuck with WuWa specifically. Why not some other game? There are enough gacha games that are on par with Genshin
Why did that first comment have a profile image of Changli? lmao.
We are off to a great 2025 with me finally debuting this update. Meanwhile, in Genshin, if you have seen what they did in 5.3, you'll know.
Oh you mean zezhi? Oh my bad. Lol
@fripicodelock5856 :(
RIP Capitano...
We discovered the reason why they launched Mavuika and Citlali together, it would be humiliating if they made little profit this month.
those who blindly hate will continue to believe WuWa will fail. if they try the game without prejudice, they'll realize it's better than Genshin and that WuWa is thriving. and also Sunk Cost Fallacy and Stockholm Syndrome are a hell of a problem of Genshills lol
here before
"Here's what you dont know about wuwa"
"5 things i hate about wuwa"
"wuwa is over"
"wuwa is over v2"
"wuwa is finished"
"wuwa is finish v2"
"the wuwa situation is crazy!!"
"i can explain the drama"
"why im not interested in the upcoming 69.420 patch"
"Wuwa made a huge mistake!! 😱😱"
"wuwa drama explained"
add more if you can, make a bingo card out of it 🤣🤣
As someone who has played genshin off and on since 2020 with MULTIPLE accounts because i just roll like that and over 2000 hours played at this point, WuWa is better in almost every way, the list of everything it does better will take to long in this insignificant little comment section that no one will see or care about, so i won't bother, BUT, sorry genshin fanboys. i know a better game when i play it.
Let them cope. LET THEM COPE!!
Honestly i played genshin on release but I keep leaving every update as it gets boring and frustrating to grind especially for wishing and building character levels, but in wuwa even after release im still hyped and never leaved until the latest update.
It should've been a no brainer to understand but do they ever think Dawei would cry if everything is going smooth on hoyo's side?
I don't play WuWa much, but after seeing Version 2.0, I say Kuro cooked. Carlotta is PEAK and competition with HoYo is what we need!
what i find funny is the fact that instead of pointing fingers at wuwa, they should point the fingers at mihoyo for showing ZERO intrest in making genshin a good game. the issue is, mihoyo keeps treating genshin like a cash cow, instead of spending resources making the game actually good. its really sad , because genshin is just a shell of what could have otherwise have been. considering the fact that genshin has been out for over 4 years now, and them being ignorant of people wishing for improvements really shows how little shit they give . i played for 3 years, but last year i just couldn't get myself to keep playing . what is even funnier is the fact that hsr and zzz outclasses genshin in every aspect, and those games are made by the same company. wuwa is an amazing game that only is getting better and better, and i guess deep down these people that keep attacking wuwa knows that genshin is left to rot, and the hate the idea that another game company than mihoyo has been able to find somewhat of success with the open world formula as genshin did.
don't get me wrong, as much as i am shitting on genshin, it has a few strong point. story telling and the open world exploration is amazing in genshin, and i do kinda feel like genshin still does it best. but when that is the only strong points after 4 years, it can only take you as far. just seems to me that mihoyo has a strange obssesion with not giving people more beacuse they think that it will take away from the casual approach the game has, and according to them it is because they don't want to induce stress in their players....
Love seeing Mr Stix support Kuro
3:23 Ah yes. Wuwa EOS already happened, that is why I was wondering why have I not seen the eos on 2.0 for so long
What does the amount of money a game makes equate to the game is good ( the company just knows how to make money and how to make players spend money if they are in the top 10 )
They are so busy referring to sensor tower or comparing Wuwa to genshin and ToF (all the while manufacturing absurd reasoning for why Wuwa will fall) that they either forgot to play their own games or forgot to fact check😂
Lmao true.
day 1 genshin only had 120 resin and you need to use resin for the events. 1.0 genshin was rough.
1.0 Genshin can’t even compare to 2.0 Wuwa, and that’s being nice. I play both, I would know.
The 120 max resin, the stupid looting on artifact domains, etc... LOL...
@@rxceedgood thing about genshin 1.0 is covid-19, just that 😂
@@rxceed yeah, 1.0 lacked a lot.
Genshyt resinless behavior 😂😂😂
I saw this guy posting a video saying that Mavuika can ride the bike infinitely after getting her to C6. I was like bruh you can buy a real motorbike for the amount to get her to C6 and that too she rides it so slow even sprinting is better 🤣
Okay top 5, I gotcha. We'll see how it goes next month
I remember when Genshin was new, there were so many people dissing it for "copying" Breath of the Wild. Now, we get this. How the turns have tabled.
That "erm acshually" impression made it 100x better 😂😂
Stay uninformed genshin glazers, you give my man contents
LMAO glad you liked it!
Their insecurity starts to show since they thought Wuwa is going to be a fart in the wind for 2 months and dies but that didn't happen they kept cooking patch to patch and now they are at an all time high. It probably Hits even harder with the fact that nerumeru was asked by hoyo to not play Wuthering waves
As long as it's the haters losing their minds and not the fans
for sure once Zani is released, more haters will cry. 🤣🤣🤣
Stix, i would like to draw your attention further on the comparison between Mavuika and Carlotta's trailer. Carlotta's trailer may have had far more views but Mavuika's trailer has far more likes. 67k vs 157k. Its unreal.
Edit : currently, it is at 160k so 160k vs 67k.
The flight wings make me forgot that waypoint exist lol
Heck, I never really played a gacha game like Genshin in my life until a few months ago when I started infinity nikki, watched tectone play WuWa, saw the combat looked cool, saw ENCORE and fell in love(she's so adorable), now I have more enthusiasm to get on Wuwa instead of IN.
Pull for Changli, you gonna love the gameplay even more.
@@plo5829 will do!!!
These haters should try stepping out of the womb for once in their life 🤦♀️
Genshills can't even come up with am interesting insult for WuWa. Withered Wives or underwhelming Waves would have worked better.
They just go for Flopping it doesn't even sound right
genshin bots hateing interesting
Just play both xD i play genshin (as a day One player and Whale) and Wuwa (also day one player and a C2 carlotta enjoyer). Both Games are good.
Wuwa haters : Genshin Player
Genshin haters : Ex-Genshin Player
I only play wuwa so I don't really have any reason to hate GI. But this hoyoshill people just giving me the reason
People who come to a different game to hate show that they are insecure with the game they play. If you’re happy and satisfied with what you have, you wouldn’t go through many lengths to put another thing down
Man PGR never got the love it deserved, wuwa didn't do to well on launch either, and to see wuwa and kuro get all this attention brings tears to my eyes, I love how wuwa haters are making the game more popular cause most of em are genshin fatefuls(not to many take them seriously)
So weird .. they defend genshin like their own company XD
Everytime a New Streamer plays wuwa, There's always people start talking about genshin.
They spread misinformation and make excuses about why they not playing wuwa.
I have legit seen a mod who saying
'I refuse to play wuwa cause it is made by same artist, same engine,same company '.
I was lurking there, i didn't say anything because it was beyond pathetic.
I have stop taking them seriously.
Ah yes, these self-proclaimed multi-year-experience Gacha experts with PhD degrees in Economics, Finance, Statistics, Tarot, and Business Management from HoyoTard Community.
Is there any reason to do air attacks? Or is it just for show?
trust the process guys. haters gonna hate liks always
the funny thing is someone on TikTok said “ Genshin Impact is a F2P then WuWa “ even the game can buy every farming items in the Shop…
Stix forget about our legendary X user. ICONBOW