Original 90's Traxxas Rustler Vs The Current Traxxas Rustler. Side By Side
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- Old Original 90's Traxxas Rustler Vs New 'Current' Traxxas Rustler? How far have RC Cars come in over 25yrs? Well... the Rustlers not changed much at all. In this videoI look at them side by side and take them for a quick blast!
Yes I know... it's not a 2021 Rustler... its from about 2010.. but it is the current Rustler.. and it is 2021 ;)
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Traxxas - we want rustler and stampede “heritage” model kits. Make it happen.
Agree 😎
Great call!
Trust me...you dont... lol. They were VERY entry level back then. You want their old quality just buy a wltoys model rc.
@@NeoIsrafil hahahahahaha. I was pleasantly surprised by the 1/14 WL buggy I have.
True facts would definitely buy one and put it on my shelves king 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
Raise of hands for those who've burned themselves on a Mechanical Speed Controller Resistor?
I remember the one on my Grasshopper vividly - placed in such a way that no matter how you picked up the car, it would get 'ya!
Another epic video, thank you Sir! That 1994 Dodge Ram body brings back "Twister" memories for sure! "We've Got Cows!"
Hey fancy seeing you here....
@@closewatermelon Howdy neighbor, great way to start the day bro!
Haha... yes
Too many times lol
I really like the Tamiya ones just keep adding cells till the solder starts melting
I grew up with an Original Rustler. It was just as slow back in the 90s, which was perfect really. My father frequently used it to introduce people to R/C as it was easy to drive. Not too fast, damn near indestructible and even then replacement parts were still fairly cheap by the late 90s. When we upgraded it to an ESC it didn't get much faster but still just as fun to bash. Our "loaner" Rustler has been through it all, run over by cars, ran full speed into curbs, dunked into ponds... You name it, it kept going.
Full speed into curbs is a tuff one,, my friend and I were out on the road in front his house and we both had our rc’s. I hit a jump and blew my shock cap on my rustler and not more then 2 minutes later he ran full speed into the curb with his stampede and instantly snapped the chassis!
Old Rustler: Back in my day I would do sick jumps off the curb.
New Rustler: Ok Boomer
16 mph is what a brand new Rustler did for many years, even in 2000 when I got mine. Remember, the Titan was a significant upgrade from the Stringer. Also, the Traxxas mechanical speed control was desirable over other brands because it mounted directly to the servo and had a whopping 5 steps in forward and reverse. And yes, I definitely burned myself on the resistors haha. Even ESC's back then didn't have linear control; the published specs included how many steps they had. Cheaps ones had like 30 and nicer ones had 60 to 250, and that was a big factor in picking a ESC. And batteries haha, I remember being so proud that I had a 1800 mah instead of a cheap little 1500. That battery gave me 8 minutes of full throttle bashing.
To be completely honest, I think I prefer the body of the original more
They simply look better while moving. They don’t look like sports shoes or Gatorade ads.
@@cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245 Agreed. They someone look like a Ford pickup
The '94 Ram was the first time a truck wasn't styled like a shoebox - legendary. And it also has the benefit of not being painted by Joe Exotic like the new one.
Old school looks way better
Way better, I never liked the modern Rustler look.
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Definitely would prefer that older body shell, looks more like a truck per say. Looked in good shape and well looked after for sure,was surprised !.
old one looks better then the new.
the old rims is better then new and dont look as tacky blingy.
@@extec101 Agreed.
They have some awesome chrome versions of the wheels on phill's rustler that look even better than the white ones.
You can buy custom body shells for the rustler buy an old style body problem solved but the things inside are miles better and more fun...
I really enjoyed this video Tomley, id love to see more of these kind of videos, old vs new!
Thanks mate... I love a bit of Old School
I second that. And Matthew Simms you crazy dog!!!👍
I admit like another viewer, the '94 looks sooo much better, the part list is amazing bonus there!!! Beautiful the more I look at it vintage collecting is really picking up I have seen, you definitely have a gem brother!!!
Yeah... Vintage and Retro is certainly the coolest
Amazing how Traxxas changed their company into a big time competitor in the RC world. I remember they were just "another" company selling RC, then I come back into the hobby and what a turn around with great products.
Love the old school cars. Ide rather have the new version.
WHOA! The original Rustler. I worked at Continental Airlines at Stapleton in Denver at night. And part time at Colpar Hobbies on Havanna Blvd. We sold Traxxas cars and parts. They were really different, all their transmission and suspension parts were white. Associated and Tamyia were the big players. And pan cars were big. Good times.
Good times indeed!
the older Traxxas does have a certain charm - perhaps with its speed it can now be a crawler??? ha
They also had the Eagle, the Blue Eagle and the Blue Eagle LS (long suspension), which is where the Rustler gets it's A-arms from.
My first RC truck was a Hawk. Great truck but back then RC was serious business and if you weren't a racer you were looked down upon. The premium brands looked down at the backyard basher and totally underestimated how much the fun factor was important to the growth and maintenance of the hobby. Not a fanboy but Traxxas understood that part and was able to build their brand on bashing.
I remember not being able to afford an esc.
Novak probably? My Grasshopper lived with a 2 position mechanical for a long time, for the same reason. I was even jelly over the variable mechanicals like Kyosho had.
ESCs were expensive back then. A lot didn’t have reverse either!
@@TomleyRC Yep!
I saved up and got a non-reversible Novak ESC for my Kyosho buggy, and after seeing me struggle with no reverse when bashing, my friend paid even more and got Novak's "Rooster" reversible ESC. Yes, I was pb and jelly.
Much prefer the look of the old one. The new designs put me off buying one but I am old school. Great video 👍🏼
Yeah... I prefer the old ones as well. I have a new ‘old’ body for this one 😎
You could fit an old body on a new one. Or search eBay for an older one. Most current parts will still work.
@@TomleyRC After watching many of your videos I suspected as much 👍🏼 Appreciate all the time you put in to bang out the content. All the best 👍🏼
Traxxas fan boys be like
“wHy ChAnGe SoMeThInG tHaT aInT bRoKe”
I miss the old Traxxas sledgehammer
I had a sledgehammer! Only the real ones will remember 😎
Sledgehammer is a fun lil truck. I rebuilt a black tub Sledge for my son.
He loves the ol pup
Was my first new rc kit! Poor thing didn’t survive a 11 year old me.
I have a version 1 with white plastic and gold oil filled shocks to restore.
Traxxas did retool a few years ago and you can find some small differences in the newest trucks, but the overall design is still the same and parts are compatible. One thing you did miss out is that the old Rustler has scallops in the battery tray to help hold the Sub-C battery packs from the time, whereas the newer one you have has the scallops removed to hold LiPo packs. The early XL5 trucks (with the gray plastic) still had the scallops as well and I think they updated the design of that chassis and battery tray around 2009 or so to remove them.
Good info dude 😎👍
Front bearing/steering block is different too. The original truck took 5x8 at all 4 wheels...the new truck is 5x10 or 5x11. They now have steel gears in the trans too. The yokes mount slight different as well...the new truck uses a grub screw that goes all the way through...the old truck didnt. I'm sure there are some other changes I'm missing.
Man I remember the Hawk . For some reason back then it was in the unattainable category in my mind like the RC-10 and JRXT
Very nice 👍👍😁
Oh man that was cool bro, to see an old Traxxas still alive from back in the day. I know I remember when they came out I was messing around with tamaya and they're old speed controllers.
AWESOME VIDEO FRIEND. 👍
Cheers dude. Yeah... it’s a cool old school truck!
Oh god the Pro ball diff is horrible. Can't provide solid drive in a blue fit. I have one that saw 3 minutes of disappointing work. Want it to share the sadness?
"There gotta be something wrong with that" : Yes, commonly known as the 20 Turn Stinker. Slower when loaded than a Mabuchi 540 SH and will combust faster than an Aperture Science lemon.
One thing I hate Traxxas for is introducing the 2.8" 2WD rim. Yah, less ballooning when brushless etc, but 2.2" just looked better with big puffy boots.
Yeah... the motor looks good... but didn’t perform. I’m sure it was a bit better back in the day though
@@TomleyRC Yeah, just existing softens brush springs. And the heat they made new would do a number on magnets as well. It was really annoying how they spaced the spur gear to the motor plate with that really long shaft. When people came to the shop and wanted to put a 'silver can' in them we had to fashion motor spacers to push the motor back so the pinion could go on boss inside.
Very good video. Tamiya started for the masses but Traxxas took it to the next level. Now you have others all fighting for the spot to be the next big company Losi,Associated,Armma, Witoys, so many others it is a great time to be in to RCing. Cars, trucks, boats, planes, drones and Helicopters
I’d also keep and eye on CEN Racing... they have some good things coming from when I’ve seen 👌
@@TomleyRC i will do so
Associated was around back in the day, so was Losi. They served more high end clients though, the ROAR pro circuit, etc. Traxxas made cheap, entry level vehicles back then. They weren't competitive at all, but they were nice bashers for a kid (or big kid) to play with.
@@NeoIsrafil that’s what i am talking about reaching the larger base of the buying public.
I had a few Tamiya kits w MSC’s before my first Traxxas (Stampede) which also had a MSC. I remember being impressed by how much faster the Stampede was. 20T vs Tamiya’s 27T. I remember in the 90’s a 1500mah Piranha NiCad battery being the norm lol.
Haha... 1500mah NiCads... those were the days!
Yeah. And if you had the 1700 scrc batteries you was the crap. 🤣 and at one time you pretty much just had two different battery connections. You pretty had the standard Tamiya molex and Kyosho connections. Those were the best times in rc.
If only two connectors were used today, or better yet, one.
Love the rustlers. I own a few oldies. Upgrade that old one with brushless electronics... You'll be surprised. Solid platform
I have an original rustler that started out with the mechanical speed controller then it got upgraded to a novac speed controller with a trinity motor then it got up graded to a first gen castle mamba brushless system. Also in the process it got newer shocks and reversed jato rpm arms on the front and rpm arms on the rear with some proline gladiator tires. Loved ripping that thing around. Sadly it’s been sitting now for about 8 years.
Run it !
I prefer old style. The new RTR body hydro dipped paint schemes look like the stuff they put on full size prototype cars when they drive around to camouoflage the shape of a new design.
Honestly, I don't know if I ever would have gotten into hobby grade RCs if it wasn't for the ready to run RCs. For that, I do appreciate Traxxas, and I do have a few of their RCs. Of the two versions, I honestly do like the newer body better. Great job as always 🙂
i still have the 1995 rustler and still kickin...love how they look and handles...even i got about 15 other newer rc's...the retro ones are highly sentimental...
Love Retro Rcs
I love how it only hit 21 and it says 35+
That body is definitely modeled after my favorite truck. The 2nd generation Dodge Ram, which was released in 1994 and was the most revolutionary looking pickup at the time. Also the truck used bu Chuck Norris on the show Walker Texas Ranger.
Still using mine. Upgraded to brushed and the real drive shafts since the extra power likes to snap the original shafts. Goes around 50mph now. Not bad for a 27-year-old rc.
Great vid keeping honest as usual when you start pulling out the vintage makes me realise how old I’m and and how good was the days back then lol .ps I still would have the new one haha 👍
Yes I can remember using old speed controller 40 years ago!!! Thanks for reminder 😡lol the new rustler without a doubt ! I have new 2021 xl5 and vxl, was using vxl last night and it rips for a 2wd .,. Great upload thanks 🙏
Haha... they were never all that good were they 😅
My first R/C was a duratrax Maximum ST. I was too young to figure out nitro & my dad bought me the E-maxx, it was the best! We made a 16ft plywood jump & a 4ft quarter pipe & would launch that think super far!
Arent Tamia's, old and new, quite a bit slower than even these Rustlers? Ive never driven a Tamia so I dont kno, But it seems like the Tamias are never near "out of control" and without tire spin from what Ive seen in videos. The Tamias definitely have cooler looks. Ive been looking at the beatles and the vans, Way Cool!
Back then, that was some cool shit so don't knock old school RC. It had to start somewhere.
I remember back in the 90s when I raced 2wd buggy and stadium truck me and the other racers always thought Traxxas was a joke.
Yeah... they never really hit the spot with proper racers 👍
The older body looks better than the newer go faster paint jobs. I am going to paint over the cars I have that have those similar styles of paint work. At least they will standout from all the other ones around and not look like just another clone. I still have not decided if I will make my EX07 blue or chrome as I do not even bother with applying the stickers on my cars. Why look like everybody else.
I have a new unpainted ‘old’ rustler body... might have to get a decent paint job on it
For looks i prefer the vintage one and the newer for driving.
Yes... agree
Good to know if you have a Rustler from the 90s that all the current parts will fit :D
Awesome video buddy!! My favorite car!! Check out worlds fastest rustler 132mph. I set the land speed record with that car about 4 years ago. I put twin motors on it.
132 with a Rustler is rapid!
Wish I still had my Rustler from 1999. I sold it for $60, If I could find the same one today I'd gladly pay triple just to have it back.
Always nice to find your original toys
The 1994 rustler came originally with spike tires on the back which worked great off-road but when you ran it on concrete or asphalt it just wore the nubs down fast and turned your tires into slicks when I had mine back in 94 I had to change the tires out a week after I bought it This video made me feel a little nostalgic and you were right they were a little faster than that mine would go 23 miles an hour a police officer in the neighborhood wanted to see how fast he could go and he clocked it when I was playing with it outside
I can't believe it still works that's amazing I gotta admit as dated as the old one looks it looks so cool
Old School cool for sure 😎
For the looks: the old style is much better! Didn't know it existed. Thanks for the video.
No probs dude
Nice comparison Phil. I like the old one the best and yes I am old enough to remember a mechanical speed controller! I didn't find out about ESC's until I got back into the Hobby in 2012 :-)
What a classic this is, Traxxas is a company with history and traditions. Nice video to see and compare them, Greeting from Poland!
Thanks mate. Yeah... they have some history for sure (good and bad lol)
History like...basically having the same exact vehicles forever? Lol
I remember running too hot of a motor back in the early 90's and welding the mechanical speed controllers solid, stuck wide open. Anything over a 16 turn would do it.
I’ve had a few Tamiyas that have smoked the MSC... and then you have to either chase it down the road, or wait for the battery to die!
Nice Side By Side comparation, well done. 👍😎
Thanks mate 😎👌
I have one off the first rustlers and all the old electronics and it goes 23 mph.
I wonder if he's getting full sweep on his speed controller.
@@GhostRyderFPV probably needs a bit of a clean
@@leeglasspool7357 Yeah he needs one. The ESC as well.
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Yeah I did manually move it and I think it is going full. Just old and tired (also like me haha)
@@TomleyRC I'm 48 and a rough around the edges as well lol
They're both extremely slow. A modern Rustler VXL on 3S is way quicker
your vids keep getting better! Thanks man!
Appreciate it dude 😎👌
Yep, a cheap-ish attempt to copy the success of the Team Associated stadium trucks at the time. And yes, still available at just over half the price of the latest RC10T6.2
Yes... and Trx ‘rail’ buggies were like the old Tycos
i had a traxxas hawk and it went faster in reverse than forward...then the losi xxxnt happened and life improved
Shows the innovation of traxxas. Btw I’m being sarcastic in case you didn’t catch that.
Haha
6:49 that doesn't matter it will have same power as new if every is working nicely it just looks slower compared to new cars.
I like the old style better
Man I hated the mechanical speed controllers with the crystal receivers. I lost reception so many times and ended up being stuck wide open, LET me tell you how many curbs I crashed into and parts I broke! Just to give you a dime for your thought, I have a Traxxas Street Sport, 1990 Model, Same mechanical speed controller, Remember this is back when they used the old rounded edge tires, it was 2wd, It handled like crap! But just to have the nestalgia of having one of their first gen road cars is something I'm proud of!
I had a Nitro Street a while back. Needed restoring
Man.. I remember wishing SO BADLY that my dad had gone for the Rustler for me rather than the Stampede. He figured I'd prefer a monster truck, but didn't realize I wanted to race and there were no classes that you could race monster. Spent so long slowly upgrading the stampede until it was closer to a rustler and was halfway competitive. Wasn't great, but I raced anyway the best I could.
I bet the Stampede was still cool...👌
@@TomleyRC honestly, the old stampede (and all the old traxxas stuff) were very fragile and it was before their warrantee existed so my stampede was down for repairs more than I drove her. I didnt even drive her thay hard usually, mostly just laps and some minor jumps at the local track.
My new wltoys 104001 takes more abuse without breaking than my old stampede EVER did and goes easily 3x as fast. Lol traxxas has come a LONG way from barely entry level to mid grade US quality levels.
@@NeoIsrafil
That's curious, because my old stampede, was tough as nails, the only thing that broke for me, was the countergear .. that was rubbish.
I ran a 13 turn brushed motor in it, jumps, wheelies, the works. I did eventually grind down the body, but it took a while, iw as not disappointed.
It should be mentioned, that it was the first variant, with the paddle wheels, they allowed it to powerslide and drift, which may have saved it from the worst hits.
Is funny but I have bought. Brussels now but very funny to use ...
I prefer Rustler BBQ rib burgers 😂😂🤤👍🙂
Bro that’s so funny😂
I prefer old school as that is what I grew up with throughout the 80's.
Hi tomley, I'm from Malaysia
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It seems to be modeled off of the Dodge ram. I'd prefer the the 94 model for nostalgia. Sure, now a days anyone can get an older body for the new ones these days.
I can't stand Traxxas new body designs/color scheme is a nightmare to me. Also the wheels suck. That's my own opinion. To each their own.
My first rc was Tamiya stadium blitzer with a manual speed controller. I'd love to have that thing again
Yes, older stuff is much cooler
I think your motor is dying out. My rustler did the same thing and would only give half power. After that I went brussless
Upgrade coming soon 😎👌
That is old
Lol that funny right there! Was into this hobby at least 10 years before that
Just about to run mine this evening, using 6 cell and 7 cell Nimh. We'll see what happens.
Good luck 🤞🏻
Love the old body style. Looks a bit like the stadium Blitzer from Tamiya.
No wonder the old rustler is much slower with a 20turn motor compared to the 12turn new one.
Yeah... needs an upgrade!
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sadly...
american company dont make it their own traxxas at all...
traxxas is from taiwan
It is yes
The original one looks awesome, speed not so great my crawler is almost as fast. 😁
I would put a brushless system in it 😅👍🏼
I have an old Traxxas Blue Eagle Ls. The truck they had when they actually had a racing team all those years ago
Believe it or not folks but back in the day the Rc manufacturers took some pride in make a vehicle actually look like one instead of the plastic blob shells a lot have today, they also used real sponsor decals not fabricated names. This cost them in licence agreement fee's but made them look even better.
Traxxas has made gazzillions of those rustlers over the years and I bet the manufacturing cost for one is around 20 dollars and yet hey charge 250 or so for a copy here in Canada
Yes... I agree, so if the older stuff was way better. Some of the original Tamiya Hardbody stuff was so much nicer
I did enjoy your video this time! Thanks!
Old one was my first RC. My heart strings lol
Great looking old beast isn’t she? Just a rebuild of the gear box, a new speed controller and run that motor in a cup of water, it will be as good as new! Great stuff Mr Tomly.
Upgrade video coming soon 😎
I had no idea but I have a Traxxas Hawk i got on ebay years ago when i first got into rc, had no idea what i was buying, even has the old esc. popped a titan 12t and borrowed my crawler sidewinder 2 for a test drive before i shelved it so i didnt tear the old dry needle tires off the cracking rims. Glad i watched!
Hawks were awesome
I have a 1995 stampede I bought new . Still have alot of the original parts. Original speed controller died years ago
Awesome 👌
My first hobby grade rc car as a kid was a rustler that I got around 1998, the speed seems about right from what I remember but we were running 1400mAh Ni-cads... I recently won a rustler in a raffle on the snap-on truck and was amazed at how little they've changed in more than 20 years
Decent Win!
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I have had an old rustler sitting around in pieces probably for the past 15 years. After seeing this clip I've gotten back into the hobby. The Ole rustler is back together and slowly tearing up my back yard, lol
The first hobby grade RC I owned was a RTR 99-20 2wd Rustler The electronics sucked It had the ole servo style mechanical speed controller I changed out all the electronics and moded the steering a bit It had a terrible turn radios It was decent on off road tracks but it done really good on dirt oval Compared to a Losi Team Associated back then the Rustler sucked pretty bad I must say lol They have came a long way though A friend of mine bought one last year and it is pretty dang fast and handles pretty well over jumps etc I'd like to have the 4wd Rustler for back yard bashing 🔥👍✌️
Pretty cool RC for your first Hobby Grade 😎👌
@@TomleyRC Yeah I had a lot of fun with it ✌️
They look so cool
I love my rustler it’s a bunch of fun
Had the Old Rooster Speed Controller on my Old Rustler.
😎👌
i remember mechanical speed controls.
I had an original 94' Bandit ( same chassis and electronics ) she was a bash queen. Though I use to kill resistors for the manual speed controller. Had to sell it in college for food. I miss her!
I might have to get a Bandit
@@TomleyRC she's still my favorite R/C, but I may be bias...lol I hear the XVL is a monster!
I prefere the old one. have the nitro version of it!
Damn i remember using a mechanical esc on my old grasshopper. Great vid.
Thanks dude
I believe it is based off a Nissan Frontier
great vid! i have a really upgraded rustler and i love it i go it 2ish years ago right before i turned 12 because i saw yours and kevs vids
Awesome! It’s a good hobby to be in 😎👌
Wonder when the X-maxx is incoming?
Not long dude.... not long 😎👌
@@TomleyRC nice. Had Arrmas previously but they're on another level. Just got mine a couple of days ago and it's great.
I remember the Traxxas Eagle and the Hawk, I wanted those trucks so badly as a youngster, had a Rockbuster at the time. great times! Thank you for the trip down memory lane.
Holy cow yah the Eagle there is another one.
I had a Nitro Street a while back... it was in need of rebuild, but had parts missing so sold it on. Love the old school stuff though
I would love to have an old Bullet the Fiero gtp is another one I'd like to have.
So the differences between the old Rustler and the new one are as follows (I used to work at a hobbyshop back when the Rustler was still sold with an MSC) the differences are the whole Transmission (metal gears), slipper clutch, screw hardware (stronger metal),rear arms, chassis is different, the battery tray has the rounded corners removed so lipo batteries can fit, also the front hub carriers are different. The plastic has also been improved to. The shock towers are made with a more flexible plastic and the fiber reinforced plastic for the arms, front bulkhead, chassis, suspension arms is stronger. Also the original Rustler body was modeled after the Dodge Ram pickup. Also the current Traxxas electronics are MILES ahead of what we had 20 years ago. The Titan 12 turn is double the power the old stinger 20 turn had. The Titan also runs allot cooler then the stinger did. The current Traxxas servos are much better then what was available back then. The old Traxxas servos used to fail from regular use. The plastic used to crack just from shock alone.
Can you get the original body and wheels and tyres new anymore or is there anything similar available that will give a modern rustler that retro look?
Not sure, although I did get a new body with this one 😎👌
I think if you live the bearings and change the brushes in that old 20 turn you can get alot more life out of it.
Yes... I think you are right