Yeah and they're not messing around playing endless 20-50 shot rallies like I saw Yesterday with Medvedev vs Zverev. Players today are playing low risk tennis compared to Federer's early days. Ostapenko's A Game is more exciting then Medvedev.
Federer also had 40-15 in last game because he served ace and second mp was the same as in the 19s final just the passing shot was a bit long here.Craaazy...
I think the passing shot being long here can also be down to the difference in the power of the 2 forehand approach shots ..... fed played unbelievable in the final but there was clearly a dip in the power of his fh. Also , as this final was played under a closed roof , the conditions were faster than in 2019 and hence such fast full power forehands were difficult to return with precision.
Roger went to the T in 2012. In 2019 his serve went in Novak's forehand. Had it spun away from Novak (a slice serve down the T at 116mph), Roger would have ended the match with an unreturned serve or an ace.
Rogers striking was so clean and attacking here. But I think he lost a touch of quickness after 2014, which forced him to play more reactively with defense, as there were fewer attacking opportunities to dictate points. Notice how he played these Set & Break points, compared to the many he let get away from him vs Novak @USO15 and Wimb's. I recall it being something like 3 of 27 on Break Pts vs Novak. Yet he still pushed close 4th set. So it's not that Roger was a *totally* different player in '12 vs '19, but he lost that little bit of edge that was allowing him to play his game at full capacity. But he sure did well after this wimb final . Only 7 Major Finals and 3 Major Titles - HOF numbers even in the final block of his. 🐐🇨🇭
@@dewman7477He was, and if that roof didn’t close, Murray would’ve won that match. Just look at the olympics, Murray demolished Federer because the roof wasn’t closed.
@@tolendoi123 lol one set isn’t destroying Federer lmao 🤣 if that’s the case Federer would never lose Wimbledon final with closed roof if we apply your logic
I know there are trophies but when we talk about the word sport game of tennis we cannot forget the three that are: Rod Laver Bjion Borg is Roger Federer the teacher!
I'm a Murray fan; I think he would've got to about 6/7 slams if he'd stayed fit from 2017-2020, and mayyyyybe he could've completed the career golden slam?
Murray è un gran bel giocatore, ma difronte ad un Federer che gioca in maniera spaziale come in quello slam, c'era ben poco da fare. Quanta classe ha mostrato, comunque Roger, oltre ad un'intelligenza tattica unica. Bravo Murray, ma Roger Federer è genio vero. Buongiorno
Vero, però Murray riuscì a batterlo in finale a Wimbledon nello stesso anno (alle Olimpiadi del 2012, mi sembra ad agosto, circa un mese dopo Wimbledon; vennero giocate sempre nello stesso stadio di Wimbledon). Pensa se Federer avesse vinto anche quella finale. Arrivò secondo, con la medaglia d'argento. Murray è stato un vero fenomeno, poiché le ha vinte ben due volte di fila le Olimpiadi. Comunque, Federer è il re di Wimbledon (vinto 8 volte e con più finali giocate di tutti), poi vengono Djokovic e Sampras, i quali lo hanno vinto tutti e due ben sette volte.
@@KasusEpykMusykII non si può sempre essere al 100% e neanche i campioni lo sono. Basta qualche attimo di deconcentrazione perché la partita diventi irrecuperabile! A parte questo, il gioco è la genialità di re Roger sono leggendari e sono sempre stati guardati dagli avversari come un qualcosa di difficilmente arrivabile. E non è una mia idea, è un giudizio che gli viene tributato universalmente. Andate a vedere un po' di colpi alla Federer e vedrete come tutto ciò che si dice di lui corrisponda al vero. Buonasera
@@antoniofedre5923 Resta il fatto che Federer venne battuto ben tre volte da Nole in finale a Wimbledon (nel 2014, nel 2015 e nel 2019), oltre a quella finale persa contro Nadal nel 2008 e quella alle Olimpiadi del 2012 persa contro Murray, sempre a Wimbledon. Per me il più grande tennista della storia è Djokovic, poi viene Roger. Buonanotte.
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What an absolutely insanely high quality match. An underrated gem.
Yeah and they're not messing around playing endless 20-50 shot rallies like I saw Yesterday with Medvedev vs Zverev. Players today are playing low risk tennis compared to Federer's early days. Ostapenko's A Game is more exciting then Medvedev.
@@jeffreykaufmann2867Of course it's high risk tennis it's a grass court. If i recall correctly, that Medvedev game was played on a really slow court
4:14 he hits what is arguably the best shot in recent history, and barely celebrate. A valuable lesson to today's generation
you are allowed to celebrate
It's an amazing inside out dropshot but the best ? There are many shots that are at least as impressive as this.
An inside out, cross court, reversing, slice forehand dropshot winner. Chef's kiss.
LOL, what a shot
Watching Federer backhand makes me want to play like that. I can hit two backhands like this at most in a match. What a sweet stroke to watch
I'm pretty sure most people can hit exactly 0 per match unless we're talking about the subpar ones.
Cap, literally no average tennis player can even hit one backhand like Roger's in a lifetime.
Federer also had 40-15 in last game because he served ace and second mp was the same as in the 19s final just the passing shot was a bit long here.Craaazy...
Das, it all looked familiar until the equally familiar Djokovic Djokovic curse
I think the passing shot being long here can also be down to the difference in the power of the 2 forehand approach shots ..... fed played unbelievable in the final but there was clearly a dip in the power of his fh. Also , as this final was played under a closed roof , the conditions were faster than in 2019 and hence such fast full power forehands were difficult to return with precision.
@@noorangadsingh1746also federer’s forehand was much better with the smaller frame he used here
Wow, I've never seen Wimbledon courts look so green.
the last point is so eerily similar to the one Novak was able to pull off
I thought the same thing when I was seeing the last point. Still so sad for Roger's running up Wimbledon
Feed me a hammer and I will crap out nails. And the serve was more accurate
Roger went to the T in 2012. In 2019 his serve went in Novak's forehand. Had it spun away from Novak (a slice serve down the T at 116mph), Roger would have ended the match with an unreturned serve or an ace.
@Feed me a hammer and I will crap out nails. The serve was far better..which is the key lever..
@@ibrahimnaqvi9249 dont put it like that it makes it worse..!'.I believe an out wide serve would have done the job..no?
This match was a masterpiece final by Roger.
Murray had his revenge at the Olympics and was sublime.
Rogers striking was so clean and attacking here. But I think he lost a touch of quickness after 2014, which forced him to play more reactively with defense, as there were fewer attacking opportunities to dictate points.
Notice how he played these Set & Break points, compared to the many he let get away from him vs Novak @USO15 and Wimb's. I recall it being something like 3 of 27 on Break Pts vs Novak. Yet he still pushed close 4th set.
So it's not that Roger was a *totally* different player in '12 vs '19, but he lost that little bit of edge that was allowing him to play his game at full capacity. But he sure did well after this wimb final . Only 7 Major Finals and 3 Major Titles - HOF numbers even in the final block of his. 🐐🇨🇭
23> 22>20. Federer is no3
@@cuonghung2821 Nadal relies on Roland Garros and Novak has weak competition nowadays. Roger had was beating people at 37
@@masudbillah6196 A Federer fan talking about weak competition.lol
@@masudbillah6196 That's hilariously ironic coming from a Fedfan.
4:14 has anyone in the modern game ever hit that shot?
I don't think so.
The man on the other side of the net. Against Kohlschreiber and match point down, though from further forward and without running backwards.
m.th-cam.com/video/bagu6ocq3ys/w-d-xo.html
Molybdaenmornell yeah close just doesn’t have that level of concealment
Molybdaenmornell you feel with fed he hasn’t really planned the shot just pure instinct
Underrated match both players played well but federer was just in the zone when the roof closed.
Yeh when the roof closed until then Murray was tearing rogers game to shreds
@@JohnMccann-ld3yrlol yeah right he wasn’t
@@dewman7477He was, and if that roof didn’t close, Murray would’ve won that match. Just look at the olympics, Murray demolished Federer because the roof wasn’t closed.
@@tolendoi123 lol one set isn’t destroying Federer lmao 🤣 if that’s the case Federer would never lose Wimbledon final with closed roof if we apply your logic
Wow, Murray had a break point in the second set. He maybe could have gone up 2-0 sets!
I think he had 4.
I remember watching this one as a kid and boy i was so devastated for andy. 2013 was a much better result though😅
Federer played like a champion 🏆
3:42 Murrays refusal to go offensive down the line on the forehand cost him a lot of points
once upon a time "The Maestro"
Have you got full match, there's 1 on TH-cam but slightly out of sync
The goat original
I know there are trophies but when we talk about the word sport game of tennis we cannot forget the three that are: Rod Laver Bjion Borg is Roger Federer the teacher!
Federer at 3:45 equals God Mode.
Prime Fed's Serve + Approach Forehand + Volley - One of the most deadliest combination in tennis
Federer
Back then it looked like Federer was going to win 10-12 wimbledons. I guess it was not meant to be
Looks like the Wimbledon Crowd is cheering against Murray.
With a better hip we’d now be speaking of the great 4, not 3.
Be real
I'm a Murray fan; I think he would've got to about 6/7 slams if he'd stayed fit from 2017-2020, and mayyyyybe he could've completed the career golden slam?
Based on this game, we know Federer tried to lose 2012 London Olympic final.
Murray è un gran bel giocatore, ma difronte ad un Federer che gioca in maniera spaziale come in quello slam, c'era ben poco da fare. Quanta classe ha mostrato, comunque Roger, oltre ad un'intelligenza tattica unica. Bravo Murray, ma Roger Federer è genio vero. Buongiorno
Vero, però Murray riuscì a batterlo in finale a Wimbledon nello stesso anno (alle Olimpiadi del 2012, mi sembra ad agosto, circa un mese dopo Wimbledon; vennero giocate sempre nello stesso stadio di Wimbledon). Pensa se Federer avesse vinto anche quella finale. Arrivò secondo, con la medaglia d'argento.
Murray è stato un vero fenomeno, poiché le ha vinte ben due volte di fila le Olimpiadi.
Comunque, Federer è il re di Wimbledon (vinto 8 volte e con più finali giocate di tutti), poi vengono Djokovic e Sampras, i quali lo hanno vinto tutti e due ben sette volte.
@@KasusEpykMusykII non si può sempre essere al 100% e neanche i campioni lo sono. Basta qualche attimo di deconcentrazione perché la partita diventi irrecuperabile! A parte questo, il gioco è la genialità di re Roger sono leggendari e sono sempre stati guardati dagli avversari come un qualcosa di difficilmente arrivabile. E non è una mia idea, è un giudizio che gli viene tributato universalmente. Andate a vedere un po' di colpi alla Federer e vedrete come tutto ciò che si dice di lui corrisponda al vero. Buonasera
@@antoniofedre5923
Resta il fatto che Federer venne battuto ben tre volte da Nole in finale a Wimbledon (nel 2014, nel 2015 e nel 2019), oltre a quella finale persa contro Nadal nel 2008 e quella alle Olimpiadi del 2012 persa contro Murray, sempre a Wimbledon.
Per me il più grande tennista della storia è Djokovic, poi viene Roger.
Buonanotte.
That's a mauling
But this results flipped in the Olympics months later