just letting you know rio, mos def and black thought used 2 verses from songs thay had already used on albums for this cypher, still dope as fuck but they just took off their good shit from 2 songs off albums and used them, at least marshalls was just used for this cypher alone and never heard before or after. not to take away from the other 2 their verses are fire but they could have a least written 1 for the cypher that was new and unheard, i mean EM could just go through his best shit and pick 1 of his verses from alfred's theme or gnat but he would get slaughtered for being lazy and people would spot the fact he used a verse from his older song because of popularity. mos def and black thought got away with it because their stuff is not as well known. take that into consideration when ranking them.
@oldschoolhip-hopheadriorea9178 I just knew u were gonna say they killed marshal on this 1,,, eminem stuff here is clearly just something he came up with when asked to jump in thr cypher, nobody heard him say those lines again and get don't even feel like they would sound right in an actual track they don't sound like there's any structure to them it do sound almost freestyle even though it's most likely pre written,,, thr other 2 u can especially black though spit fire but you can tell there verses have structure to them where they could be pulled from a track,, well thats because they are, seek my favourite cypher ever because they all sound so different it's like they didn't try to match each or anything same beat and 3 totally different styles, I love how em basically said fuck the flow and beat the while black though ride the fuck out of it,
Looking forward to your reaction to Kendrick's Squabble Up, I want to see you react to the sample he uses. I hope no one spoils it for you until then ✌️
This is the best B.E.T Cypher next to def squad jawn 💯 ALL LYRICAL🔥🔥🔥 MOS DEF-flow, Cadence, metaphors THOUGHT-intellect, conscious, wordplay SLIM-battle, technician, punchlines
@@chris-ci4uv black thought took nothing but a verse he used in 1 of his songs from his albums so did mos def, very cheap approach to getting asked to do a cypher, at least write a verse,,, If all 3 had written just for this I'd agree black thought killed it,,,, but the simple fact he just used a verse from a track off his album is lame as fuck,,, of course eminem couldn't get away with a soft move like that because every comment would be people saying he just used a verse from role model or whatever. Only 1 dude here wrote a verse for this cypher and that em,, was his verse the best maybe not but at least his was done for this and wasint a verse he took months probably years to make and put in an album knowing it was some of his best work like the other 2 did. Black thought verse is so good it even sounds structured like it's from a song already layed out and knowing when to switch up and flows and what not,, well that's because it was. Eminem at least sounds like he's actually just written the thing for this specific it sounds very raw like it hasint been placed and matched to a beat already, even in a short amount of time. Black thought took a lazy approach, he still slayed if course but he room a safe way approach as dogs mos def, 2 verses from 2 songs from 2 released albums vs raw polished written verse for a cypher, black thought is so good he didn't need to do this but it was a safe move
Last one, taking it up North way off the beaten path for you. I'm thinking it won't be your lane, but the cat is a MC's MC, and im curious about your take, Atmosphere, Slug & Ant - god Loves ugly. Can't wait for you to get into the full album throwback series, you the best ish out herr Rio, stay up!
@@allanj917 it should have, his whole verse was from an album he already made, he just used a verse from a song off 1 of his albums so did mos def, lazy approach at least write a verse like em did they both good enough to slay they don't need to play it safe. Only guy that sounds raw and unplanned here is em because it was written just for this never heard those lines before it after and he ain't even sounding like he matching the beat,,, black thought riding the fuck out of that beat even his switch up sounds perfect because it is a verse he pulled from a song he had already released on an album same with mos def, would the white boy get away with that if he pulled 1 of his best verses and used it here,,, I don't think so he would be slaughter because his music is so popular everyone would say he just used a verse from role model or whatever. All 3 killed it but the first 2 took no risk they handpicked 2 is their favourite verses from albums and played it safe,, em how asked to do a cypher with these 2 and wrote something that sounds a u polished and raw because,, well it was u polished and raw compared to 2 verses pulled from 2 studio albums fully polished and matched to beats and practiced a billion times over since they are album verses,, they killed it all the same but cmon give us something new at least, make it sound like a cypher like u wrote it just for tonight don't pull from an album
You should definitely listen to chino xl - Here to Save You All I really like Sticky Fingaz's Black Trash too and for a song suggestion i think you should listen to Dance with the Devil and Harlem Streets by Immortal Technique I've been loving your content so keep up the good work!
I have said this before, and I admit that I am biased, but really listen and it seems only Eminem came with a true off the top freestyle. Mos Def was definitely not freestyling off the dome. He spit a written from his Jay-Z 'Brooklyn Go Hard' remix/freestyle from earlier in '09 I believe. Some live versions and a studio version of this are on TH-cam. Exact dates are hard to pin down regarding when Mos started spitting this verse, but Jay released the original track in Dec of '08. The '09 BET awards were towards the end of June, so there was a good 5-6 months that Mos Def was probably spitting his verse live and are what was captured on other TH-cam videos. Regarding Black Thought, his verse is a mashup of rhymes he used on The Roots song 'Doin It Again'. That song was released a year later, summer of 2010, on the album "How I Got Over", but it is likely that Black Thought was writing for that project at the time of the 2009 BET Cypher.
For MF Doom album, I'd say probably Madvillainy (2004) rather than Mm..Food (2004). For Eminem album, definitely the Eminem Show (2002). For J Cole album, the first obvious answer seems to be Forest Hills Drive (2014) but on second thought there ain"t that much bars in it, for bars it would be the Off-Season (2021) I'd say.
Yo Rio, long time tuning in, first time commenting. Throwback hip hop joint that never got enough credit, Camp Lo - Uptown Saturday Night. Im curious if you'll F wit it or not, but either way, it's full of dat NYC flava so check it out
Eminem kick off freestyle
Lets go! Good sughestion imo. It might be too bar heavy for him to wnjoy though.
You're only fueling his hate lmao
I'm Having a Relapse is dope tho
just letting you know rio, mos def and black thought used 2 verses from songs thay had already used on albums for this cypher, still dope as fuck but they just took off their good shit from 2 songs off albums and used them, at least marshalls was just used for this cypher alone and never heard before or after. not to take away from the other 2 their verses are fire but they could have a least written 1 for the cypher that was new and unheard, i mean EM could just go through his best shit and pick 1 of his verses from alfred's theme or gnat but he would get slaughtered for being lazy and people would spot the fact he used a verse from his older song because of popularity. mos def and black thought got away with it because their stuff is not as well known. take that into consideration when ranking them.
DAMN....I Hate when rappers do that! #RecycledBars"🗑🤦🏿♂️
@oldschoolhip-hopheadriorea9178 I just knew u were gonna say they killed marshal on this 1,,, eminem stuff here is clearly just something he came up with when asked to jump in thr cypher, nobody heard him say those lines again and get don't even feel like they would sound right in an actual track they don't sound like there's any structure to them it do sound almost freestyle even though it's most likely pre written,,, thr other 2 u can especially black though spit fire but you can tell there verses have structure to them where they could be pulled from a track,, well thats because they are, seek my favourite cypher ever because they all sound so different it's like they didn't try to match each or anything same beat and 3 totally different styles, I love how em basically said fuck the flow and beat the while black though ride the fuck out of it,
Eminem killed that shit, black thought at 2nd
Eminem: the Eminem show
The Eminem Show
He doesn’t like the emotional stuff I’d say Marshall Mathers
React to eminem - kick off freestyle
It’d be cool if you reacted to the “SHADY 2.0 CYPHER” that shit goes crazy! In my humble opinion.
I Got'chu! th-cam.com/video/AC5cxHVT_Ws/w-d-xo.htmlsi=TU09vDfeRCB-0lGF
Album : Lunar Solar Duality (L.S.D)
MC: Cambatta
Gotta hear the Shady CXVPHER!
I second that
Looking forward to your reaction to Kendrick's Squabble Up, I want to see you react to the sample he uses. I hope no one spoils it for you until then ✌️
mos def wasn't a freestyle, he used that on another track
This is the best B.E.T Cypher next to def squad jawn 💯
ALL LYRICAL🔥🔥🔥
MOS DEF-flow, Cadence, metaphors
THOUGHT-intellect, conscious, wordplay
SLIM-battle, technician, punchlines
Twista - Adrenaline Rush (Album)
I love em...basically a stan...but...black thought took this
@@chris-ci4uv black thought took nothing but a verse he used in 1 of his songs from his albums so did mos def, very cheap approach to getting asked to do a cypher, at least write a verse,,, If all 3 had written just for this I'd agree black thought killed it,,,, but the simple fact he just used a verse from a track off his album is lame as fuck,,, of course eminem couldn't get away with a soft move like that because every comment would be people saying he just used a verse from role model or whatever. Only 1 dude here wrote a verse for this cypher and that em,, was his verse the best maybe not but at least his was done for this and wasint a verse he took months probably years to make and put in an album knowing it was some of his best work like the other 2 did. Black thought verse is so good it even sounds structured like it's from a song already layed out and knowing when to switch up and flows and what not,, well that's because it was. Eminem at least sounds like he's actually just written the thing for this specific it sounds very raw like it hasint been placed and matched to a beat already, even in a short amount of time. Black thought took a lazy approach, he still slayed if course but he room a safe way approach as dogs mos def, 2 verses from 2 songs from 2 released albums vs raw polished written verse for a cypher, black thought is so good he didn't need to do this but it was a safe move
Last one, taking it up North way off the beaten path for you. I'm thinking it won't be your lane, but the cat is a MC's MC, and im curious about your take, Atmosphere, Slug & Ant - god Loves ugly. Can't wait for you to get into the full album throwback series, you the best ish out herr Rio, stay up!
Black thought ‘great white line stood out’ more.
@@allanj917 it should have, his whole verse was from an album he already made, he just used a verse from a song off 1 of his albums so did mos def, lazy approach at least write a verse like em did they both good enough to slay they don't need to play it safe. Only guy that sounds raw and unplanned here is em because it was written just for this never heard those lines before it after and he ain't even sounding like he matching the beat,,, black thought riding the fuck out of that beat even his switch up sounds perfect because it is a verse he pulled from a song he had already released on an album same with mos def, would the white boy get away with that if he pulled 1 of his best verses and used it here,,, I don't think so he would be slaughter because his music is so popular everyone would say he just used a verse from role model or whatever. All 3 killed it but the first 2 took no risk they handpicked 2 is their favourite verses from albums and played it safe,, em how asked to do a cypher with these 2 and wrote something that sounds a u polished and raw because,, well it was u polished and raw compared to 2 verses pulled from 2 studio albums fully polished and matched to beats and practiced a billion times over since they are album verses,, they killed it all the same but cmon give us something new at least, make it sound like a cypher like u wrote it just for tonight don't pull from an album
eminem : the eminem show and the marshal mathers LP
Black thought is one of your favorite rapper's favorite rappers
Bad Meets Evil - Raw
All three went off, black thought had my fav tho
You should definitely listen to chino xl - Here to Save You All
I really like Sticky Fingaz's Black Trash too and for a song suggestion i think you should listen to Dance with the Devil and Harlem Streets by Immortal Technique
I've been loving your content so keep up the good work!
I have said this before, and I admit that I am biased, but really listen and it seems only Eminem came with a true off the top freestyle. Mos Def was definitely not freestyling off the dome. He spit a written from his Jay-Z 'Brooklyn Go Hard' remix/freestyle from earlier in '09 I believe. Some live versions and a studio version of this are on TH-cam. Exact dates are hard to pin down regarding when Mos started spitting this verse, but Jay released the original track in Dec of '08. The '09 BET awards were towards the end of June, so there was a good 5-6 months that Mos Def was probably spitting his verse live and are what was captured on other TH-cam videos. Regarding Black Thought, his verse is a mashup of rhymes he used on The Roots song 'Doin It Again'. That song was released a year later, summer of 2010, on the album "How I Got Over", but it is likely that Black Thought was writing for that project at the time of the 2009 BET Cypher.
Beastie Boys - Paul's Boutique
black thought top 5 for me
Lil Wayne -Free Weezy album please! You'll fuck with it guaranteed
Eminem Relapse or MMLP or Eminem Show. All classics
For MF Doom album, I'd say probably Madvillainy (2004) rather than Mm..Food (2004).
For Eminem album, definitely the Eminem Show (2002).
For J Cole album, the first obvious answer seems to be Forest Hills Drive (2014) but on second thought there ain"t that much bars in it, for bars it would be the Off-Season (2021) I'd say.
I have three more, you gotta get one of 'em in the list, old school militant activist black man, Paris - Sleeping with the Enemy
Rio you remember those ron g mix tapes?
Run the Jewels - any one
Keeping it in the West, WC - The Shadiest One
Yo Rio, long time tuning in, first time commenting. Throwback hip hop joint that never got enough credit, Camp Lo - Uptown Saturday Night. Im curious if you'll F wit it or not, but either way, it's full of dat NYC flava so check it out
Juice Wrld
Gotta do black thought freestyle on funk flex
I got a couple more entries, M.O.P. First family 4 Life
Celph Titled - Nineteen Ninety Now
One more from the West, the original East Bay gangsta story teller, Spice 1 - Amerikkka's Nightmare
Luniz - Operation Stackola, gotta hit the West west on this quest!
I know you ain't a down dirty south type dude, but gotta give em they respect UGK - Too Hard to Swallow
eminem Album the eminem show or MMLP
React to Arrested Development 1st album with hits like Everyday people and Tennessee
Canibus For whom the beat tolls
RIO!! New Kendrick album. Rapping his ass off. Full of bangers! It's called GNX. Just dropped today!!
🎼 Please check out Danger Mouse & *Black Thought* - Strangers (feat. A$AP Rocky and Run The Jewels) 🎹
Marshall Mathers
They didnt use to call Eminem racist the fk you talkin bout. Benzino pushed that Narrative. Then Nick Cannon. Ask yourself why.
🎵please listen to *Asap Rocky* - 1 train . Which features *Kendrick Lamar* and Joey Badass. 🎶
Definitely wasn't off the dome.
That was not off the dome. Stop it.
For an Eminem classic album, please do the Marshall Mathers LP
Eminem's Marshall Mathers LP 2 album
Erick Sermon ft. Marvin Gaye - Music (Official Video)
Erick Sermon Music (Remix) (feat. Keith Murray & Redman)