How to Sleep on a Cliff and Poop in a Bag
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ส.ค. 2024
- Big Wall Bible #4 of 14 - www.bigwalls.com
Existing in a vertical world is an art and honestly one of the coolest forms of camping. But you don't know what you don't know if you haven't done it, so hopefully, this will tell you what you don't know. The idea is to practice everything at home near the ground so it's smooth as butter (or those shits after those freeze-dried dinners) when you are super tired after climbing all day.
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00:00 Getting out of bed
6:24 Pooping
11:24 Getting ready to pack
16:10 Packing it up
20:58 Jeremiah gets on belay
25:28 Where to belay
27:56 Flagging Portaledge
31:41 Setting up a portaledge
33:27 Tips and Tricks
36:37 Bounce Testing Portaledges
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Sleeping on a cliff is fun. Until....you experience a rodeo ;)
Oh this is so hardcore stuff. I can't find a better word. And I'm not talking about pooping in a bag, but the whole of it: Sleeping on a cliff, packing up, climbing the wall. Just wow! I'm not sure if watching this is more inspiring or intimidating.
Useful info for when I never ever under any circumstances do this.
"Yours" and "mine" is a way way better verbal cue for gear hand offs. There is an obvious direction the gear is going. I have on more then one occasion seen two people both say "got it" and then both drop the gear. "Take" and "taking" are too close together sounding to be clear in a loud, windy, emergency, fast, etc. situation in my opinion.
Iv always done it where the person giving holds onto the item and never let's go, the person taking it has to pull it out of the others hand. So no one ever let's go of anything.
But I'm on ladders, not on big walls, so I'd probably want to throw in a verbal system on top of that if I could be completely fucked if I dropped something.
The humour is off the charts on this one 🤙😂
Would be nice to have one episode in this series about the epics and close epics people had. You could talk about how it was caused, how to prevent them and what your solution was (if there was one). Other people could also tell their storys if they want.
I think this would be an interesting and funny video
Nice video btw 👍
Good idea. We include quite a few in the rappelling episode coming in a few weeks.
for the first time i truly understand the apeal of free soloing ... the gear logistics of it all 🙈
They miss the best part, chilling on the portaledge
It's here! Let's go!!!!! I live for this series.😎❣
Some notes as watching. You guys say "Take" We've always said "Got" and literally make the other person pull things out of our hands. Not a crazy strong grip on what we're holding on to... but. Just enough that they have to slightly wrench it away.
If you watch parts with no sound, like ready to pack, it looks kinda like the old silent comedy films haha
GREAT info, guys. Many thanks.
@HowNOT2 pro tip… bring a little travel sprayer of odo-ban, great for shoe odor as it really kills the germs that cause the odor not just covers them up. Guess what else, if you spray it into your poop bag before sealing you won’t have to smell it so much either.
I don't climb. I've never climbed (carnival walls excluded). I'm scared of heights from a fall I took 7 years ago. Why have I watched almost all of your videos?!?
Dude, I love the skits. This guy's is awesome!
The last bit with the linescale made me laugh out so loud :-)
Hey, thanks for the series! Do you always use the pro traxion to haul? How much better is it compared to the micro traxion?
Thank you thank you. So informative.
Gatorade 1 gal bottle for 💩 tube. I gallon zip lock with a bit of kitty litter and detergent pre loaded. Poo in bag and burrito it up to insert in the large mouth empty Gatorade bottle. I carry my spare duct tape on this bottle to hide the fermenting shit inside. Each partner gets their own and carries their own off. The heavy duty plastic keeps the smell inside...until you make another deposit, but at least its your own and not a team conglomerate scent.
Hello, love your content. Can you do testing on the strength of different branch unions, like what an arborist would tie into?
The rule of thumb is nothing thinner than your wrist, but I want data!
Maybe you could do different angles and distance from the branch union too.
Thanks for even reading this!
Sounds more like a rule of wrist! nyuk nyuk nyuk nyuk.
You want him to do destructive testing on a living tree...? Yeah, that's never going to happen.
before this lesson I need the how not to have a heart attack on the wall lesson
How do you put poop into the “vault” ? Does entire bag you went in get shoved into the “vault” ?
For best results, leave the bag slightly open and a little bit hanging out of the "vault". It's like having a bread crumb trail to your location for any rescue operations.
Thanks for all the good videos. I have never big wall climbed before but i think ive watched enough of these videos to be super good enough. Going to el cap in 2 weeks to go solo. Wish me luck
I see I see said the blind man pissing in the wind. It's all coming back to me now.
how was the weather on this big wall?
Why do you have the hammock with you? Portaledge alternative?
That was just filler for the bag. You take a hammock on a wall if you want to learn how bad ass the climbers in the 70s were but otherwise you just take a ledge.
Wow, that was fast
I’ve been on $1m tour buses where you also have to shit in a bag if not near a gas station.
That's because they want to dump their waste tank on the side of the interstate.
Are you sure it's safe to drill into the portaledge? My gut instinct (as an engineer) tells me that may seriously compromise the strength of that beam, pipe or whatever its called. Though that would actually be a great thing to test, if only they weren't so expensive...
would a small 1/4" hole at the connection compromise it? It seems like that is how everything is attached. The bar reinforces it right at the weakest point anyways. That could be a hard test to determine something conclusive.
@@HowNOT2 I agree, that would be hard to test, however I have an idea. Now, let me verbosely explain my point. So you are right, the bar will reduce bending stress in the strut. However, there is no 'hard' connection between them, as can be seen in the setup video you included, there the whole ledge twists around itself. So imagine two people are sitting (or god forbind jumping) on opposite corners of the ledge. This would try to turn one of the long bars one way and the other one against it. The 1/4" bolt would try to prevent that and therefore create stress within the wall of the strut, with quite a lot of leverage. Despite the bar taking stress off, the middle of the strut is still one of the places that sees the most stress. Now combined with the stress in the wall, that could well have unforseen consequences, since the part wasn't designed with that in mind and probably not tested for it. Also, the way a hollow pipe fails is not by bending or breaking but rather by folding in on itself, which instantly leads to a massive loss of strength of the cross-section. So it is - kind of - comparable to breaking like glass. When you cut glass and bend it, it's gonna break exactly at the place of the cut. Much in the same way, the pipe will most likely collapse at the point where he hole is. Although the latter part is a bit conjectural. Now you said, that's how everything is attached, but the ends of the strut don't see much bending stress and even if one of those bolts were to damage the whole it's in, it wouldn't do much to the stability of the ledge in general.
So in conclusion, if you bolt in the bar, stress on opposite corners should be the worst case scenario. And that may be a place to start in a possible test.
@@TheS4ndm4n Are you trying to whip off your portaledge? It's just a glorified hammock.
dude I would fill that poop tube in a day or two max easily
What is the taco hammock?
Must have missed something. How does the poop get in the 2 liter bottle?
call the poop tube the "animal deterrent"
call the bottle Little Boy or Fat Man, according to the disaster it would cause if you dropped it.
so wait how are you pooping into that 2 liter? like no way is that opening large enough. did i miss some modification?
I guess they funnel it with the bag?
@@bryana7163 that can't be it. There's no way You're mashing your shit into a 1inch opening 2litree at 1k feet up. They gotta be cutting open that bottle or using a different one and the was a joke.
Personally I'd need a nice nalgine size opening or shit in a bag and store on a nalgine destination for poo only. Please feel free to add solutions. This is a big deal for me on the wall now that I'm going for bigger climbs
@@alexthomas2953 yea, I don't know,. I've done hiking and indoor rock climbing, and mountain biking that's it. I was just curious on how people set that stuff up while hanging on a rope, its quite the challenge.
To clarify:
You go to the bathroom in the wag bag and then you cut the 2 liter water bottle open like a pac man and put the wag bag inside it that way. Then tape it shut. You can usually fit a couple used bag in said bottle.
What about the pee when you poop? 🤣
Pee first separate probably
The Porta John
I’d be so scared of unclipping myself in my sleepZ
New parents, when your kids refuses to go to the bathroom before a long trip, THIS is their future.
I think having to shit in a bag and then somehow get it into a 2 liter bottle is a sign that whatever you're doing just shouldn't be done!
just say you're boring
Have fun on your couch!!
So whats the cost to aid climb? Lol. Good lord no wonder why everyone lives out of their vans.. 😂 idk how you can sleep on a "ledge" i would be tripping out. Got me anxious just watching.
Pssshhhhh, don't tell me how to poop in a bag
What is a plastic beg? Is that a climbing term? 😂
how do you poop into a 2 litre?
Carefully
[I would prefer Ryan not look at me while he sh*ts]
and if you forget your poop bag? its going to fly isnt it ?
I don't understand how to poop in a pop bottle.
Have you ever encountered people banging on a big wall ledge lol??
My friends have :)
@@HowNOT2 ahahaha!
@@HowNOT2 haha, hopefully it was in the first night on the wall cause I bet that would get kinda gross lol
@@Sirmellowman Day 3 is where all the flavor is.
Why would this even be necessary? Are you climbing a 3 mile wall? Starting your climb at sunset?
Some really difficult big wall climbs reasonably take (a lot) more than a week to climb.
Because El Cap is Grade VI.
friends who climb together poop together...
wet wipe superiority
I call my poop tubes turd birds
I like "the nuclear football".
15:30 @fatedarrington🎃
It's like you're talking to children. We're adults bro