Glad to see the use of a torque wrench and lock tight 👍 to those installing spacers, these steps are a must and don’t cheap out on the spacers!! The cost savings will be out the window when a wheel falls off!….
Great video. We have the 2020 AT4 2500HD with 20" rims. Seems to be a good amount of clearance since the stock suspension is taller on the 20 then previous years. Love the wheel dip as well. Did not want to replace perfect rims just to black them out - great look!
Update on my previous comment: I ordered a new pair (this one from the American Amazon location) and they fit excellent! Put them on this morning. Haven't been on the highway yet but driving around town seemed just fine. I ended up using medium lock tight though. Hope all is well Don! Keep going with this truck!
Revisiting this video as well as the hyper dip mod. Refreshed AT4 Arrives next week. GM only had two wheel options for the remainder of the year. Classic 18” like you have and one 20” I went stock 18. Keep at it. Been watching since you began.
Just got a new at4 last week going through my gm parts bin and found a set of 1.25 boras I had for a different truck I think they are going on I'm really liking the look of yours
Looks great! I have a 2020 AT4 CarbonPro and I have done similar mods. I did change the side steps to the AMP Research and the truck looks cleaner and taller. Also I recommend painting the calipers. Yours is the best white truck I've seen.
I have stock 20" rims and the 1.5" spacers do cause the tire to rub the skirt at stock height. Looks like stock tire on 20's is approx. 1" taller than the 18's. Any spacer less than 1.5" will require the stock studs to be cut. Darn.
It's been a while since you have installed your spacers. Are they still on your truck? How do you like them? Have they given you any issues? Is there anything you would do different now? I'm thinking about getting some for my truck and trying to figure out what size I should get.
Red lock tite is what they consider a more permanent thread locker. Sometime you need a torch to cook it to remove it later. Let us know how the first rotor change goes with that sealant.
Solid video! Thanks for showing us. I have a 2021 GMC Sierra AT4 (6.2L) and "went up" one size taller tire (275/70 R18)...about 1/2" taller vehicle height. Curious if these spacers will work and not rub? Right now (no spacers) no rubbing and smooth ride with the Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revo 3 tires on all four corners. Thank you.
Hi Chris, I would take some gap measurements with your front wheels turned full lock left and right and see how much space you have if the wheel was moved outward. My suspicion is that you would have a little rubbing at full lock and/or when going down a curb/driveway while turning. It would depend on the spacer's size too of course.
I have a 2022 gmc elevation and did that to my truck and got a 2 inch leveling kit and got Nitto Ridge Grappler 285/60/20 tires and now people think it’s a AT4 lol 😆
Hello. I wonder if you have any thoughts on the added stress on suspension components and bearings? Seems to be only downside but no one ever talks about it
I have heard the same, but this is only my opinion…..Heavier wheels/setup than stock and as the weight is moved further from the hub, then yes I think it puts more stress on the components. Especially the bearings and other wearable parts. I think many people also replace their vehicles more frequently and leave the wearing out for someone else to deal with.
@@Donslife I think that’s a good point. Running 85 pound mud tires probably puts more wear on a suspension than a 50 pound stock tire and wheel with a 1.5 spacer
Don, those spacers look great and are exactly what I want for my 2021 Sierra Elevation. I will definitely be ordering the same ones. Thanks for the idea and tutorial. Cheers from London, Ontario brother!
@donslife I purchase these upon your recommendation for my AT$ and want to tell you about my experience. I drove on these for around 4k miles between oil changes. I rotate my tires every oil change. My truck only has 10k miles and is not a daily driver. I have not towed or driven aggressively. I followed the directions and hand installed them with a torque wrench. I went to do the fist rotation since these were installed and 3 of the wheel studs on the extender broke right off with NO effort. I was SHOCKED and pulled them off immediately. I inspected them further and see a few studs that are cracked. I have had these for about 8 months cause its not driven daily. I tried to reach out to the company SEVERAL times and they will not respond back. I have found several others with the same problem with studs breaking off. I would ask you tell you viewers about these issues and the company not following up on complaints.
I will leave your feedback here. I have 2 sets (Escalade and Sierra) in use and have not had this experience or any problems for that matter. I also didn’t recommend this product specifically. I demonstrated a proper installation of a product and shared its information.
At first that was a concern, but honestly when you look at the spray pattern from the dirt and road film, it isn’t bad at all. The steps and built in mudflap still catch most of it.
Hey Don, in your opinion could you of gone with a 1.25 inch spacer and still had enough of a recess in the wheel to not have to trim any lugs? Many thanks
Hey Heath! The link to them is in all of my video descriptions. Made by Richeer. Made Autoguide.com’s top 10 list. There are better ones but stock and distribution is hard to find in Canada. I like mine. No issues at all.
Hey just got a white AT4 6.2 2023 same as yours 6 miles on it and adding mods already. Its what we do right... Lol Do you still have your wheel spacers on. And do you know if they would void the warranty. I saw the vid about warranty on the air cleaner that will be next but got to get that stance right first.
Congrats. Yes I still have spacers on. No issues and they won’t void your warranty unless they can be proven to have contributed to the failure of a warrantied part. So if your air conditioning stops working they can’t deny you warranty due to wheels spacers.
Love all the mods you have done!!! Have you considered doing a block delete on the rear suspension to level the truck? A leveling kit ruined my steering on my prior 2017 Silverado. So I am hesitant to level my At4.
I leveled my 2019 AT4 with the Readylift sst kit that comes with the control arms and a 1" block for the rear. So far....no regrets. It's a big job though.
Not entirely accurate. The quantity of red Loctite plays a part. I have tested this to be true. I can send you a video of the removal without a torch if you like? I am not trying to be rude. However a little heat from a typical propane torch will do if you did need to soften the loctite.
@@Donslife Thanks for this video, and all the others you've posted. I'm a Trail Boss owner both are very similar. Thinking about ordering the spacers, any issues after some months of use and road time?
Hi Don...love your videos. I have the same wheel set up as you, however I have 285/70/18 tires. Do you think the size difference will create a rubbing problem with these spacers?? Thanks
@@Donslife I decided to go with 1.25" spacers to be safe or so I thought. Drivers side can turn full lock with no problem. Passenger side rubs the back upper mud flap at about a quarter turn. So I guess I'm going to do some alterations. I saw somewhere where they remove the bracket the mud flap bolts to give more room.
After all this time do you still recommend this cheap ones? Or you recommend the 1.5 Supreme Suspension form American Muscle? I’m not going off-roading, just daily driving.
I recommended hub-centric but I don’t have a favorite brand. I had extremely limited options in Canada at the time (no one had stock) so I tried these and I am happy with them
I’ve seen your newer videos so I know you don’t have new rims on your truck yet but if you are looking for a hella flush rim I have 20x9 with 0 offset on my AT4 with I believe a 10.5 or 11 wide tire? And my tread lines up perfect with the fender and the only thing outside is the side wall by a few millimeters
Luv all your videos. You have helped me a bunch with new ideas and tips for my GMC 2019 AT4. I just leveled it with the Ready Lift kit and now it is time for my spacers. I would suggest more lock tite front to back across more of the threads rather than across a few threads going left to right. Any thoughts on anti seize on the center ring and on the wheel hub? My test fit was even snug and semi hard to get off before I went full torque. Any hoot... you do great work and I am like you, no vehicle stays stock for long. Keep up the good work. My Hyper Dip GMC badges turned out great..inspired by you.
Don, any chance you would be willing to temparily remove the spacer on one tire and measure distances to fender and compare to with spacer? I have same type tire as you, but on 20in rims and wonder how much change in clearance the spacer causes.
Hi Andrew, next time I have a wheel off I can measure for you. It should be exactly 1.5” more towards the fender. I measured mine when I planned for them. The stock 20” wheels have a Goodyear All-Terrain, the 18’s are wrapped with Goodyear Duratracs. So even if I measure for you, our tires might be a little different on the tread on the outer edges. You can send me an email or message in Instagram (info in all of my video descriptions) and I can let you know measurements whenever I take the wheel off again.
Hello! If you’re doing any towing, it’s best to go hub centric with adapters, I can help with that. We are experts at wheel adapters and spacers and I’m happy to answer any questions you may have !
hello i have a 2014 silverado 1500 with no life of any kind with stock wheels now the rims are 18x8.5. tires 265x65x18. im lookn at 1.5 spacer the look im lookn for is just as yours. only thing what is your rim size. truck looks awesome.
What size socket for the lug nut ? I bought a 22mm but it seems to barely grab on I’m wondering if it is different , also what brand wheel spacers you went with ?
Hi, the spacers link is in my video description. I think they will be okay. So far they have been excellent. I am sure that my minimal spacer size is why I am confident. They are forged aluminum alloy with a 2 yr warranty. When I get aftermarket wheels, I will be removing them. I plan to keep them with these wheels though since they offset is perfect for what I wanted.
If you use thread lock, you shouldn’t have to re-torque the spacers. I didn’t go heavy on the thread lock either since I didn’t want an issue when I want to take them off.
Do u have to retorque every 150 miles every time and what if I put a 2 inch leveling in the front does that mean I need to keep retorque after a certain amount of miles
Hi Ryan, no lift installed currently, just the 2” AT4 factory state. The tires/wheels are stock too in this video. The spacers I feel helped the stance look better without compromising the little space with the front wheel wells.
Howdy, I'm told that torque ft/lbs may also be a different requirement based on engine size?!? I followed the spacer manf. specs. but what about the wheel to spacer torque. Don has the 6.2, I have the 3.0 diesel. Different WHEEL-TO- SPACER TORQUE ft/lbs? Chime in!
@@Donslife Love your channel ! Thanks for everything you share. I"ll be ordering a 2022 At4 as soon as they let me . Torn between the 6.2L and the 3.0L Duramax.
Hey Don. Love the videos and all your mods. I just got a 2022 AT4. Ordered some spacers yesterday. Putting them on next week. 1.25. Do you still like them? I will probably go with a different wheel someday. But I do like these factory 20’s.
Mine have been great 👍🏼 No vibration, no issues with any nuts loosening over time. I ended up towing quite a bit too after I found they were performing perfectly.
@@ardenausland3975 awesome! My Hyperdip is still 100%. Take your time and follow the steps in the video and it should work out. Keep the cans warm and spray in low humidity
Hey buddy, i have the same truck. Did you had problems with your spacer?? My tire is 275/60r20 oem rims and bfgoodrich all terrain I thinking to buy 2 inch spacers and i need to know your opinion
How have the spacers held up? The reason I ask is because I’m torn between this brand and the “Bora” Spacers but I am unsure if it’s necessary to spend nearly double on the Bora ones.
Thanks, I haven’t yet. 6000lbs is the most I have done with them. I might do 7500 +/- but only short hauls to go camping. We’ll see. I would prefer no spacers when max towing, it would only take me 30 - 40 minutes or so to take them off for a big tow.
The ones you got on the link are 1.25" are those the ones you used? Those look nice though thinking about pulling the plug on these. Thanks in advance!
Mine are 1.5”. The link is for 1.5”, but if they are out of stock it will load the next available size. I would do 1.25” personally vs 2” for the wheels I am running.
You can take your wheel off and measure the exposed stud length. Then look at the back of your wheels and determine if there are recesses (like mine) that the end of the stud could set into if it was a little long
Don, I love your videos! I just installed the Rough Country 2" level kit on my 2019 AT4 1500. I have 35/12.5/20 tires on the factory wheels and the UCA's are REALLY close to the tire. Do you think adding spacers like this would help? If so, any additional advice you would give for this setup to ensure safety and maximum efficiency? Thanks!
I do think that the right size spacer or offset wheel (best option) will help. You can do some measurements with the wheel at full lock both ways and get an estimate on how far the edge of your tire can go (pushed away) from the vehicle if a spacer was installed. Just a guess, but something small would be adequate. The closer the center of the wheel stays to the factory intended placement is always the best and safest option.
@@Donslife thanks for the response! I'm getting feedback on other forums that the upper control arms are pretty close to the tires on the AT4's straight from the factory (I never paid attention to this before). How close are yours and how close is "too close," in your opinion? Thanks
Mine with the spacers is about 2.25 inches. So stock anything over 0.5 inches is probably enough. Unless your tire’s sidewall compresses under a significant force and rubs the UCA, you are probably okay at that 1/2” gap or larger.
Good question but don’t think I even have one rock chip yet that the wheels would be responsible for. To be fair if I drive on gravel, I try to go very slow
@@Donslife I don't have the AT4, will the spacers cause any rubbing? I have a 1.75 inch front level, and running LT 285/60/20 tires on stock wheels, on the elevation model.
These are 1.5” spacers with my factory 18” Wheels and Duratracs (275/65r18). The factory wheels have a notch where the stud needs to be and it provided enough room. A very clean install
@@kellyhughes1266 I think you’d be okay still. I see the link is defaulting to 2” because the 1.5” are out of stock. Good news is you can return them if the studs are too long
Thanks for the info and the videos, one more question, on the video it looks like the clearance after you installed the spacers was pretty tight but it is difficult to see very well. How much clearance do you actually have and do you think the 2 inch spacers would still clear without any problem?
Dang! I bought the exact ones you did and I'm having some rubbing issues. Factory tires too, but mine is a 2019. Wonder if there's something different. I'm not convinced a leveling kit would resolve it either 😔
@@Donslife It's on the rear-most side on the plastic rock deflector. It's not too bad - I think I'm just going to grind it down a bit and problem solved. Love your videos, and hope you don't mind me stealing all your ideas 😁 If I do, I'll have the best looking AT4 in North Dakota!
Yes 140 on the Wheels and no more than 140 with the spacer to the hub. This brand of spacer recommended 120lbs on the spacer, but I felt the grade of the bolts would be fine at 140. This is what I did, but you have to decide for yourself
Hey. I’m following you and enjoying your videos. I want to ask a question. I have same truck just 5,3 litres and I want to use spacers and exhaust but I’m not sure it is effect the warranty. Do you know something for these? Thank you.
Hi there! In the US there is a law to help protect you. To refuse warranty the manufacturer has to prove the aftermarket part caused the failure. Some dealership though might refuse to work on a system that has a modification done to it. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson%E2%80%93Moss_Warranty_Act In Canada we have similar protections. Outside of the US and Canada, I can't answer your question
@@Donslife I’m living in Toronto, ON. I bought my brand new at4 at 6 months ago from Sherwood Park Gmc Edmonton, AB. I asked before from service, but they couldn’t answer to me clearly. They don’t know. :) And also my truck doesn’t has 360 camera. The service doesn’t sell it. Do you prefer aftermarket 360 cam? What do you think about that? Take care
Hey Don, I just bought the Richeer spacers (1.25) and in looking at the directions for the 9/16" stud it shows torque to 135-145 but your video has different numbers. Based on that spec, I plan to torque the spacer to the factory spec of 140 ft/lbs and then also torque the wheel to the spacer at 140 ft./lbs. Did you have some other instructions to work from or am I missing something? Thanks for your response my friend and keep up the good work.
Hey, I think the instructions that came with mine were 120lbs for the spacers to the hub and 140lbs for the wheels as per GM. I just torqued the fronts again recently after removing them to install shocks. The spacer nuts were all still secure too. I might still have the instructions that came in the box for mine. If I find them I will let you know. 140lbs would likely be okay for both sets.
Properly installed hub centric spacers wouldn’t contribute to steering wobble. Usually an unbalanced wheel is the culprit. Second, maybe a suspension component is out of spec or improperly adjusted.
Thanks! Brand is GMC. Sierra is stamped right on them. Limited availability now due to production issues I guess. Chevy has/had them too. They are a 2021 build option but I think they are removed until they can fulfill orders. I almost didn’t get mine. The dealership had to take them off of another truck.
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Is Richeer a good brand? I was told to stay away from Amazon spacers. 8mos later, how they holding up?
@@MistaDontPlay34amazon does have a couple of good quality spacers. look for forged
Glad to see the use of a torque wrench and lock tight 👍 to those installing spacers, these steps are a must and don’t cheap out on the spacers!! The cost savings will be out the window when a wheel falls off!….
Good advice! No problems here
Can one "cheap out" on spacers? Aren't they just solid metal?
Great video. We have the 2020 AT4 2500HD with 20" rims. Seems to be a good amount of clearance since the stock suspension is taller on the 20 then previous years. Love the wheel dip as well. Did not want to replace perfect rims just to black them out - great look!
What a sweet truck! Great job on the rims! The spacers made a huge difference!
Yes they do! Thanks for watching ✌️
Update on my previous comment:
I ordered a new pair (this one from the American Amazon location) and they fit excellent! Put them on this morning. Haven't been on the highway yet but driving around town seemed just fine. I ended up using medium lock tight though. Hope all is well Don! Keep going with this truck!
Right on Luke!
Revisiting this video as well as the hyper dip mod. Refreshed AT4 Arrives next week. GM only had two wheel options for the remainder of the year. Classic 18” like you have and one 20” I went stock 18.
Keep at it. Been watching since you began.
You made a good choice in my opinion. They help with the off road look. The tires are a bit noisy though
Looks way better with the spacers. Plan on running them too
No regrets here. Will be getting some for our new Escalade too
Just got a new at4 last week going through my gm parts bin and found a set of 1.25 boras I had for a different truck I think they are going on I'm really liking the look of yours
That’s awesome 😎
Nice subtle difference.
I'm getting a Canyon Denali & I think this could be a worthy addition.
Could be!
Looks great!
I have a 2020 AT4 CarbonPro and I have done similar mods. I did change the side steps to the AMP Research and the truck looks cleaner and taller.
Also I recommend painting the calipers.
Yours is the best white truck I've seen.
Thanks brother!
Yaaaaa!!! Saskatchatoon for the win! Thanks for that man I think I’m gonna put 2” spacers on now after seeing that seems easy enough
I have stock 20" rims and the 1.5" spacers do cause the tire to rub the skirt at stock height. Looks like stock tire on 20's is approx. 1" taller than the 18's. Any spacer less than 1.5" will require the stock studs to be cut. Darn.
Thanks for the insight!
Try using green locktite you can heat it up and it will turn back to liquid.
It's been a while since you have installed your spacers. Are they still on your truck? How do you like them? Have they given you any issues? Is there anything you would do different now? I'm thinking about getting some for my truck and trying to figure out what size I should get.
I have full confidence in the ones I used in the video. No problems
Amazing look with the spacers! Not overly aggressive, just perfect!
Thank you, I agree!
What tipe os spacers u bought
Red lock tite is what they consider a more permanent thread locker. Sometime you need a torch to cook it to remove it later. Let us know how the first rotor change goes with that sealant.
A little torch action doesn’t worry me. Good call though! 🔥
Yes looks much better i have 2020 gnc sierra and i love you ideas for you truck tanks
Thanks 🙏🏻. More to come!
I have 20" wheels on my at4. What's your thoughts/idea on whether or not the tire would rub on fender if I add spacers?
Somebody on here told me they had a little bit of rub at full lock with the stock 20” but it might have been the 2” spacer. Mine is the 1.5”.
Solid video! Thanks for showing us. I have a 2021 GMC Sierra AT4 (6.2L) and "went up" one size taller tire (275/70 R18)...about 1/2" taller vehicle height. Curious if these spacers will work and not rub? Right now (no spacers) no rubbing and smooth ride with the Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revo 3 tires on all four corners. Thank you.
Hi Chris, I would take some gap measurements with your front wheels turned full lock left and right and see how much space you have if the wheel was moved outward. My suspicion is that you would have a little rubbing at full lock and/or when going down a curb/driveway while turning. It would depend on the spacer's size too of course.
Wow that’s a sharp truck can’t wait to get my 2023 at4 6.2 how is mpg non towing
Do you have to do a re-alignment on the truck after adding the spacers? I just got a leveled 2021 AT4 with 295\60\R20s on the factory Wheels.
Not usually
Did you put the spaces? What size of spaces did u use and does it rub?
I have a 2022 gmc elevation and did that to my truck and got a 2 inch leveling kit and got Nitto Ridge Grappler 285/60/20 tires and now people think it’s a AT4 lol 😆
Nice 👍🏼 😆
Hello. I wonder if you have any thoughts on the added stress on suspension components and bearings? Seems to be only downside but no one ever talks about it
I have heard the same, but this is only my opinion…..Heavier wheels/setup than stock and as the weight is moved further from the hub, then yes I think it puts more stress on the components. Especially the bearings and other wearable parts. I think many people also replace their vehicles more frequently and leave the wearing out for someone else to deal with.
@@Donslife I think that’s a good point. Running 85 pound mud tires probably puts more wear on a suspension than a 50 pound stock tire and wheel with a 1.5 spacer
Don, those spacers look great and are exactly what I want for my 2021 Sierra Elevation. I will definitely be ordering the same ones. Thanks for the idea and tutorial. Cheers from London, Ontario brother!
Thank you sir!
@MrTA1983 Did you end up putting on these same wheel spacers? If so, how long have you had them on there and how have they worked out for you?
@donslife I purchase these upon your recommendation for my AT$ and want to tell you about my experience. I drove on these for around 4k miles between oil changes. I rotate my tires every oil change. My truck only has 10k miles and is not a daily driver. I have not towed or driven aggressively. I followed the directions and hand installed them with a torque wrench. I went to do the fist rotation since these were installed and 3 of the wheel studs on the extender broke right off with NO effort. I was SHOCKED and pulled them off immediately. I inspected them further and see a few studs that are cracked. I have had these for about 8 months cause its not driven daily. I tried to reach out to the company SEVERAL times and they will not respond back. I have found several others with the same problem with studs breaking off. I would ask you tell you viewers about these issues and the company not following up on complaints.
I will leave your feedback here. I have 2 sets (Escalade and Sierra) in use and have not had this experience or any problems for that matter. I also didn’t recommend this product specifically. I demonstrated a proper installation of a product and shared its information.
Great Video! How much more dirt/mud does it throw up on truck with the wheels out 1.5"? thanks
At first that was a concern, but honestly when you look at the spray pattern from the dirt and road film, it isn’t bad at all. The steps and built in mudflap still catch most of it.
Hey Don, really love your content! I am curious after two years how the rock chips have been to your paint since you put the 1 1/2" wheel spacers on?
Surprisingly nothing of concern. I don’t drive on gravel too often either
Awesome, thanks for the response. Do you have a PPF or ceramic down the sides?
@@joebowles1432 right now I have a wrap and fender flares but for a while, no ppf or ceramic coating behind the wheels. Just the factory splash guards
Hey Don, in your opinion could you of gone with a 1.25 inch spacer and still had enough of a recess in the wheel to not have to trim any lugs? Many thanks
It might just fit but would be very very close. Some shaving of the lug tips might be in order
Hey Don, do you think that 1.25” spacers would still allow the factory studs to sit inside the wheel grooves?
If it were me I would take a wheel off and measure the stud length and compare to the depth of the groove plus add 1.25” for the spacer
Love the look. What tires do you have?
Thanks. These are the factory Goodyear Duratracs that came with the truck
What brand of wheel spacers are those? Looks great. I have a 2021 LT Trailboss
Hey Heath! The link to them is in all of my video descriptions. Made by Richeer. Made Autoguide.com’s top 10 list. There are better ones but stock and distribution is hard to find in Canada. I like mine. No issues at all.
Nice truck with spacers
Thanks for the video. Any chance you've since discovered any rubbing due to the spacers?
Thank you! No rubbing with the size that I chose. Even with the steering full lock going up and down (backwards) the curb of my driveway.
@@Donslife Thank you!
Hey Dan, are these spacers fits with the OEM rings ? At 4 2020. And what model and sizes are your tires on this video ? Thank you very much
These spacers are a 78.1 hub bore so they are a perfect fit. The tires are the stock Duratracs. 275/65R18
@@Donslife thank you very much
Hey just got a white AT4 6.2 2023 same as yours 6 miles on it and adding mods already. Its what we do right... Lol Do you still have your wheel spacers on. And do you know if they would void the warranty. I saw the vid about warranty on the air cleaner that will be next but got to get that stance right first.
Congrats. Yes I still have spacers on. No issues and they won’t void your warranty unless they can be proven to have contributed to the failure of a warrantied part. So if your air conditioning stops working they can’t deny you warranty due to wheels spacers.
Love all the mods you have done!!! Have you considered doing a block delete on the rear suspension to level the truck? A leveling kit ruined my steering on my prior 2017 Silverado. So I am hesitant to level my At4.
Thanks for the kind words Eduardo! I have thought about it but before I do anything, I want to see how well it tows some of my trailers.
I leveled my 2019 AT4 with the Readylift sst kit that comes with the control arms and a 1" block for the rear. So far....no regrets. It's a big job though.
Looks good! Did you consider Bora brand spacers at all?
Yes I did! I couldn’t find any in Canada at the time.
Red Loctite... better make sure you never want them off because the only way to loosen that crap is with an oxy torch lol. I would have went with blue
Not entirely accurate. The quantity of red Loctite plays a part. I have tested this to be true. I can send you a video of the removal without a torch if you like? I am not trying to be rude. However a little heat from a typical propane torch will do if you did need to soften the loctite.
Hey don, how often do you need to torque the spacers after re-torquing the first 500 miles?
Looks a lot better I went with 2in spaces but I think it was to much so I might change them 1.5 spaces I am running 22x10 rims
Fair! I liked them on my factory wheels. If I add some nice fender flares, I will be upgrading the wheels to have the ideal offset and line up.
@@Donslife Thanks for this video, and all the others you've posted. I'm a Trail Boss owner both are very similar. Thinking about ordering the spacers, any issues after some months of use and road time?
Hi Don...love your videos. I have the same wheel set up as you, however I have 285/70/18 tires. Do you think the size difference will create a rubbing problem with these spacers?? Thanks
Not 100% sure. Can you turn your wheels full lock and estimate if moving them outward 1.5” would still allow clearance?
@@Donslife I decided to go with 1.25" spacers to be safe or so I thought. Drivers side can turn full lock with no problem. Passenger side rubs the back upper mud flap at about a quarter turn. So I guess I'm going to do some alterations. I saw somewhere where they remove the bracket the mud flap bolts to give more room.
Well at least we know
Did you have to cut your studs or did wheels fit over them without any trimming?@@KeithClausen
After all this time do you still recommend this cheap ones? Or you recommend the 1.5 Supreme Suspension form American Muscle? I’m not going off-roading, just daily driving.
I recommended hub-centric but I don’t have a favorite brand. I had extremely limited options in Canada at the time (no one had stock) so I tried these and I am happy with them
@@Donslife perfect! I’ll give it a try. Thanks!
I’ve seen your newer videos so I know you don’t have new rims on your truck yet but if you are looking for a hella flush rim I have 20x9 with 0 offset on my AT4 with I believe a 10.5 or 11 wide tire? And my tread lines up perfect with the fender and the only thing outside is the side wall by a few millimeters
Thanks! I will be getting something! Send me pics on Instagram or email if you want. Info is in my video descriptions.
Hello, what type of floor jack you are using in this video? Thank you!
5 ton from Costco Canada, must be 10+ years old
Luv all your videos. You have helped me a bunch with new ideas and tips for my GMC 2019 AT4. I just leveled it with the Ready Lift kit and now it is time for my spacers. I would suggest more lock tite front to back across more of the threads rather than across a few threads going left to right. Any thoughts on anti seize on the center ring and on the wheel hub? My test fit was even snug and semi hard to get off before I went full torque. Any hoot... you do great work and I am like you, no vehicle stays stock for long. Keep up the good work. My Hyper Dip GMC badges turned out great..inspired by you.
I also put all black lug nuts, and all are keyed/locks
Thanks for the support! A little anti seize against the hub shouldn’t hurt. I am happy with my Hyperdipped parts too. ✌🏼
Looks really good, man! Nice!
Thanks 🙏🏻
Don, any chance you would be willing to temparily remove the spacer on one tire and measure distances to fender and compare to with spacer? I have same type tire as you, but on 20in rims and wonder how much change in clearance the spacer causes.
Hi Andrew, next time I have a wheel off I can measure for you. It should be exactly 1.5” more towards the fender. I measured mine when I planned for them. The stock 20” wheels have a Goodyear All-Terrain, the 18’s are wrapped with Goodyear Duratracs. So even if I measure for you, our tires might be a little different on the tread on the outer edges. You can send me an email or message in Instagram (info in all of my video descriptions) and I can let you know measurements whenever I take the wheel off again.
Hey Don. Been about a year now, I'm just wondering how are they holding up? Noticed you tow with them? Notice any difference?
Wondering about this as well @donslife
Hello! If you’re doing any towing, it’s best to go hub centric with adapters, I can help with that. We are experts at wheel adapters and spacers and I’m happy to answer any questions you may have !
I only use hub centric 👍🏼
They have been great! I don’t even know they are there.
I haven’t had any negative experiences towing with these
Hey Don, are you still running these spacers? How do you like them?
Still running them. No regrets at all
Looks great. Are they 1.5” or 1.25”?
1.5" my friend
hello i have a 2014 silverado 1500 with no life of any kind with stock wheels now the rims are 18x8.5. tires 265x65x18. im lookn at 1.5 spacer the look im lookn for is just as yours. only thing what is your rim size. truck looks awesome.
18x8.5 Grey/ Machined Aluminum.
6x5.5 Bolt Pattern, 26mm Offset
275/65R18 Goodyear Duratrac Tires
Ok cool so I should have the same look as yours correct
Hey man, love the content. I assume you’re still rockin these spacers. I’m looking to put in my order.
Yep! Still have them on! Thanks for the support!
What size socket for the lug nut ? I bought a 22mm but it seems to barely grab on I’m wondering if it is different , also what brand wheel spacers you went with ?
Hey Don, what kind of spacers did you use and how are the holding up now ? Will they last in our winters since it’s made of aluminum?
Hi, the spacers link is in my video description. I think they will be okay. So far they have been excellent. I am sure that my minimal spacer size is why I am confident. They are forged aluminum alloy with a 2 yr warranty. When I get aftermarket wheels, I will be removing them. I plan to keep them with these wheels though since they offset is perfect for what I wanted.
@@Donslife thanks for the info, I am going to run the stock rims as well
@@Donslife one more question do you have to re torque the spacer as well after 500km or just the rim?
If you use thread lock, you shouldn’t have to re-torque the spacers. I didn’t go heavy on the thread lock either since I didn’t want an issue when I want to take them off.
Will my tires rub if I put 1.5 inch spacers on a 275/60/20 stock wheel and tire?
I can’t say for sure, but I don’t think so since the overall width and diameter are the same
Do u have to retorque every 150 miles every time and what if I put a 2 inch leveling in the front does that mean I need to keep retorque after a certain amount of miles
What kind of lift does your at4 have? And also what are the tire sizes I’m surprised there’s no rubbing given the new angled model wheel wells.
Hi Ryan, no lift installed currently, just the 2” AT4 factory state. The tires/wheels are stock too in this video. The spacers I feel helped the stance look better without compromising the little space with the front wheel wells.
Howdy, I'm told that torque ft/lbs may also be a different requirement based on engine size?!? I followed the spacer manf. specs. but what about the wheel to spacer torque. Don has the 6.2, I have the 3.0 diesel. Different WHEEL-TO- SPACER TORQUE ft/lbs? Chime in!
140ft/lbs - should be the same
@@Donslife Thanks Don. Checked my VIN and I have M14 x 1.5 Stud/Lug. Spec on that size is 85-90 torque ft/lbs. 140 is for 9/16” x18.
Wow. Good find
Looks nice man ! Do you have a front end level on your truck ?
Thanks. No level kit yet. Once I pick out new wheels I will most likely install one.
@@Donslife
Love your channel ! Thanks for everything you share. I"ll be ordering a 2022 At4 as soon as they let me . Torn between the 6.2L and the 3.0L Duramax.
You are too kind! I don’t think you can go wrong with either. That is a tough decision.
Hey Don. Love the videos and all your mods. I just got a 2022 AT4. Ordered some spacers yesterday. Putting them on next week. 1.25. Do you still like them? I will probably go with a different wheel someday. But I do like these factory 20’s.
Mine have been great 👍🏼 No vibration, no issues with any nuts loosening over time. I ended up towing quite a bit too after I found they were performing perfectly.
@@Donslife awesome. Thanks Don. I do pull a trailer in the summer too. So good to hear. I think I’m going to try the hyperdip on my wheels as well.
@@ardenausland3975 awesome! My Hyperdip is still 100%. Take your time and follow the steps in the video and it should work out. Keep the cans warm and spray in low humidity
Hey buddy, i have the same truck. Did you had problems with your spacer??
My tire is 275/60r20 oem rims and bfgoodrich all terrain
I thinking to buy 2 inch spacers and i need to know your opinion
No problems at all my friend
How have the spacers held up? The reason I ask is because I’m torn between this brand and the “Bora” Spacers but I am unsure if it’s necessary to spend nearly double on the Bora ones.
They have been perfectly fine. No regrets at all
@@Donslife Awesome, I appreciate the quick response!!
No problem! I appreciate you watching the video 👍🏼
looks great ! still tow ur max with those ?
Thanks, I haven’t yet. 6000lbs is the most I have done with them. I might do 7500 +/- but only short hauls to go camping. We’ll see. I would prefer no spacers when max towing, it would only take me 30 - 40 minutes or so to take them off for a big tow.
Great vid. What size r ur tires?
For now the factory size Duratracs 265/65R18
The ones you got on the link are 1.25" are those the ones you used? Those look nice though thinking about pulling the plug on these. Thanks in advance!
Mine are 1.5”. The link is for 1.5”, but if they are out of stock it will load the next available size. I would do 1.25” personally vs 2” for the wheels I am running.
@@Donslife Im using the stock elevation wheels on my 20 Sierra. If I use 1.25" do I have to cut the bolt if it sticks out pass the spacer?
You can take your wheel off and measure the exposed stud length. Then look at the back of your wheels and determine if there are recesses (like mine) that the end of the stud could set into if it was a little long
@@Donslife thanks for your help subbed!
Happy to help!
Don, I love your videos! I just installed the Rough Country 2" level kit on my 2019 AT4 1500. I have 35/12.5/20 tires on the factory wheels and the UCA's are REALLY close to the tire. Do you think adding spacers like this would help? If so, any additional advice you would give for this setup to ensure safety and maximum efficiency? Thanks!
I do think that the right size spacer or offset wheel (best option) will help. You can do some measurements with the wheel at full lock both ways and get an estimate on how far the edge of your tire can go (pushed away) from the vehicle if a spacer was installed. Just a guess, but something small would be adequate. The closer the center of the wheel stays to the factory intended placement is always the best and safest option.
@@Donslife thanks for the response! I'm getting feedback on other forums that the upper control arms are pretty close to the tires on the AT4's straight from the factory (I never paid attention to this before). How close are yours and how close is "too close," in your opinion? Thanks
Mine with the spacers is about 2.25 inches. So stock anything over 0.5 inches is probably enough. Unless your tire’s sidewall compresses under a significant force and rubs the UCA, you are probably okay at that 1/2” gap or larger.
The spacers help with control arm clearance but will decrease clearance at bumper and mud flap area when turning sharp
@@andrewfortier88 💯 fact👍
great video . miss sk again
Thanks
Any problems with these after a bit of use ? I’m waiting on mine to come in the mail for my f150
I saw a video of a guy testing hyperdip vs torque wrench on lug nuts and hyperdip won. You may want to try it out
Good Suggestion. I may have to consider that next time I use the product on something
Rig looks great...
How is your paint? Are you getting rock chips? This is the only thing holding me back from spacers
Good question but don’t think I even have one rock chip yet that the wheels would be responsible for. To be fair if I drive on gravel, I try to go very slow
@@Donslife okay that's good to know! Thanks for the reply
@@Donslife I don't have the AT4, will the spacers cause any rubbing? I have a 1.75 inch front level, and running LT 285/60/20 tires on stock wheels, on the elevation model.
What size tires are on your truck? Would the spacers have worked without trimming the studs if the spacers were only 1/5 inches?
These are 1.5” spacers with my factory 18” Wheels and Duratracs (275/65r18). The factory wheels have a notch where the stud needs to be and it provided enough room. A very clean install
@@Donslife Oh, the amazon link takes you to a set (4) and it says 2 inch, would you think that there would be any trimming needed with the 2 inch?
@@kellyhughes1266 I think you’d be okay still. I see the link is defaulting to 2” because the 1.5” are out of stock. Good news is you can return them if the studs are too long
Thanks for the info and the videos, one more question, on the video it looks like the clearance after you installed the spacers was pretty tight but it is difficult to see very well. How much clearance do you actually have and do you think the 2 inch spacers would still clear without any problem?
Any updates Don since installing these? Curious if you still run them or would still recommend them?
Dang! I bought the exact ones you did and I'm having some rubbing issues. Factory tires too, but mine is a 2019. Wonder if there's something different. I'm not convinced a leveling kit would resolve it either 😔
That’s odd. I haven’t had one rubbing incident
@@Donslife It's on the rear-most side on the plastic rock deflector. It's not too bad - I think I'm just going to grind it down a bit and problem solved. Love your videos, and hope you don't mind me stealing all your ideas 😁
If I do, I'll have the best looking AT4 in North Dakota!
Don what type Jack are you using? New AT4 owner here and want to buy a Jack to do some of your mods. Looks like Black Jack but not sure of tonnage?
Black Jack 2.5 ton. I only lift one corner at a time usually and back up with 6 ton jack stands.
When you re torqued everything did you do the spacers to 140 and the tires to 140?
Yes 140 on the Wheels and no more than 140 with the spacer to the hub. This brand of spacer recommended 120lbs on the spacer, but I felt the grade of the bolts would be fine at 140. This is what I did, but you have to decide for yourself
@@Donslife thank you sir!
Fellow Saskatchewanian! 🌾
Bonus!
Looks just right now. Do you have spacers on the M4?
Yes I do. Putting the summer tires and rims on soon. Snowing quite a bit here today
What do you suppose the biggest tire you can run with 1.50” spacers?
How much poke did you have past the fenders?
In this video: Pretty much flush for the tire tread but the sidewall pokes out about 1/2”-3/4”.
Hey. I’m following you and enjoying your videos. I want to ask a question. I have same truck just 5,3 litres and I want to use spacers and exhaust but I’m not sure it is effect the warranty. Do you know something for these? Thank you.
Hi there! In the US there is a law to help protect you. To refuse warranty the manufacturer has to prove the aftermarket part caused the failure. Some dealership though might refuse to work on a system that has a modification done to it.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson%E2%80%93Moss_Warranty_Act
In Canada we have similar protections. Outside of the US and Canada, I can't answer your question
@@Donslife I’m living in Toronto, ON. I bought my brand new at4 at 6 months ago from Sherwood Park Gmc Edmonton, AB. I asked before from service, but they couldn’t answer to me clearly. They don’t know. :) And also my truck doesn’t has 360 camera. The service doesn’t sell it. Do you prefer aftermarket 360 cam? What do you think about that? Take care
Hey Don, I just bought the Richeer spacers (1.25) and in looking at the directions for the 9/16" stud it shows torque to 135-145 but your video has different numbers. Based on that spec, I plan to torque the spacer to the factory spec of 140 ft/lbs and then also torque the wheel to the spacer at 140 ft./lbs. Did you have some other instructions to work from or am I missing something? Thanks for your response my friend and keep up the good work.
Hey, I think the instructions that came with mine were 120lbs for the spacers to the hub and 140lbs for the wheels as per GM. I just torqued the fronts again recently after removing them to install shocks. The spacer nuts were all still secure too. I might still have the instructions that came in the box for mine. If I find them I will let you know. 140lbs would likely be okay for both sets.
Did you need to trim studs with the 1.25” spacers to fit in stock wheels?
Nicely done.
Are this 1.5” or 2.0” reason I ask is because the link for them takes me to a 2” and an option for 1.25” spacers no 1.5” option.
These are 1.5”. When they sell out it defaults to other sizes that are in stock.
Are you still running these spacers, is so, you still liking them?
They are still on and performing 👌🏼 No regrets
@@Donslife Nice. Think I'm going to pull the trigger on a set. Thanks!
Hey Don, Do you recall the brand of wheel spacer you used ?
Richeer 1.5" Wheel Spacers for GMC 1500: amzn.to/3t4OJRn
@@Donslife Thanks buddy..
No problem!
What do you do when there is a wobble in the steering?
Properly installed hub centric spacers wouldn’t contribute to steering wobble. Usually an unbalanced wheel is the culprit. Second, maybe a suspension component is out of spec or improperly adjusted.
I really like your running boards/steps. What brand are they?
Thanks! Brand is GMC. Sierra is stamped right on them. Limited availability now due to production issues I guess. Chevy has/had them too. They are a 2021 build option but I think they are removed until they can fulfill orders. I almost didn’t get mine. The dealership had to take them off of another truck.
What size are your tires in this video?
275/65r18 with factory 18” AT4 wheels that come with a 24mm offset (.94”) so the 1.5” spacer helped.
Thnx. Will be doing this also 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
I like the look they helped me achieve!
@@Donslife I’m doing this on my stock 22 I’ve lowered my truck
@@mhhmmm_its_ed Nice! I used to have a lowered truck with a notched frame and bagged on all 4 corners
Thanks Don
Nice work.
How do you feel about towing with these on?
Just fine. Mentioned a few times in newer videos
What size is your tire buddy? I have some 35 /12.50/20
Truck is 4 months old and I am still running the stock 275/65 on 18’s
How have they held up?
Great. No problems or concerns. Still in use as well. Moved them over to our Escalade once I upgrade the wheels on the AT4
What’s the reasoning the have you torque different lbs every 500 miles. Why not the factory 140lbs right off the bat ?
I really can’t tell the difference to be honest it just slightly
1.5 inches..?
How do u find the torque specs to the truck parts
I'd use the blue loctite.
You certainly could. Some people choose not to use any
What Jack are you using?
One I bought from Costco like 10+ years ago
I need spacers for bigger tires to clear my UCA’s. You still liking yours? I just ordered these. Love the stance.
I have been enjoying mine!
@@Donslife did you need an alignment after install?
@@alanh127 No, not at all. No geometry was changed to any extent that an alignment is needed
Hey Don, What’s the center bore or hub size on those spacers? Thanks
78.1mm - Here is a link to the one 1.5"s I have : amzn.to/3t4OJRn
If out of stock, it will automatically go to the next available spacing size