Lovely Video! Sorry for chiming in, I would appreciate your thoughts. Have you heard the talk about - Chireetler Dread Free Rule (should be on google have a look)? It is an awesome one off product for learning effective self defence moves without the normal expense. Ive heard some decent things about it and my friend Sam at last got excellent success with it.
I am a bounty hunter here in texas and these tips are perfect. I wrestled in highschool for 2 years and the take down techniques are very helpful in the real world scenario
Ogami Itto, The Executioner a wrestler sure doesn’t. Who wants to be dunked on with guy’s nuts in your face? Who wants to be knocked out by Mike tyson? Who wants to be juked in a football game? ...hit hard in a football game? Hahaha stupid questions, right?
Great Video! Forgive me for butting in, I would appreciate your thoughts. Have you thought about - Chireetler Dread Free Rule (do a search on google)? It is an awesome one of a kind guide for learning self effective defence moves without the headache. Ive heard some pretty good things about it and my m8 at last got cool results with it.
nice video. Im a CO and I would advise any deputy or CO or Cop to take martial arts on their off time. That sprawl is very important to do encase they try take you down, I know Im have extensive wrestling background and its fits well with my Krav Maga training. Also, being comfortable on the ground is very important just encase you find yourself actually on the ground.
I watch this and shutter... the last thing you want to do is strike before defending the takedown. that is the best way to ensure getting taken down. Never defend and strike at the same time... this is a 101 cardinal rule. Either strike with an uppercut or knee on the way in or defend the takedown and move forward with weapon retention and standing back up.
Claudiu Szenasi I half way agree with you. If he was .ore aware of his ground tactics a palm strike to the ear could help him. With head control practically given to him in the stunt he could have mentioned something about that also. But still good tactic for someone WHO DOESNT KNOW what to do.
Claudiu Szenasi oh also my bad I didn't fully read what u said cause my phone glitched half your self sentence out but yeah. Knee or upper cutting. Really stuff the take down switch to his back can either body triangle with a rare naked choke why other officer grabs hands or something along those lines. Not a cop just a fighter :)
Gents in ALOT of states RNC is NOT an option unless lethal force can be articulated hell your arm hangs around the neck go see IA. And the techniques have too be created and done for numerous and vast majority of body types etc. not the best techniques here but they will do in a pinch since its going in right direction. The avg LEO does NOT train even slightly and DT in most areas is NOT mandatory like firearms. I would love for officers too be mandated to train and be physically fit etc. but it doesn't work that way right now. If I told you some of the crap that is taught at various depts. your head would explode like mines does since its horrible.
GST take down defense and survival, or KMWW FTD both have excellent and more realistic results for this maneuver, especially in gear and a vest. Sprawls are not always a great option, especially with elemental or terrain concerns.
Q: 3:05 If you do that getting his head closer to your chest, wouldn't he just be able to bite you? That would be forcing you to let go or suffer the biting pain.
I think it is tricky, if people know how to set up a takedown. The way shown in the video is almost the same as I do it but still: If someone is good, he can go into a takedown in a fraction of a second after a punching sequence or something. The reaction time is very vers small there. For example if the opponent makes you move backwards and then moves into a takedown very fast, it is much harder to react than if the attacker lunches from 2 meters away. Keep that in mind. Best regards
Lowering your center of gravity is good but a better option than striking is to frame with your forearm across the upper chest neck area. Striking will likely cause him to continue to close the distance to get inside your strikes while framing will allow you to create distance and drive his center of gravity up preventing the takedown.
For all those who are saying this is BS where is your video on this? If you think you have better skill and techniques show us!! Most cops are not life long martial artists. So again show how you think you can do better or keep silent!
The "take down defense is bs guard work looked good tho. No need to put out a vid due to the thousands of vids from Olympians, champions and top coaches in disciplines. If these defence moves can be used effectively on the best in the world. They will be highly effective to the untrained moron criminal.
Police departments have no trouble asking for a background in criminal justice or a clean background check or good credit and a million other things . Start INCENTIVIZING officers with this training with bonuses to start or bumps to salary; begin employing civilians with the training required to arm departments ! 95% of fights go to the ground the greater majority of the time there is no magic silver bullet defensive tactics move to stop a grappler. The trouble is ; any good grappler is a master of trying one move, troubleshooting it , switching between techniques , and capitalizing on space, lack thereof, whatever Limbs you leave hanging , your balance and the terrain you fight on (is it hilly, are you standing in gravel, is it wet out , etc) Everywhere I go I hear about budgetary concerns and time it takes to train. I’m personally in corrections now and finishing my CJ degree until I can get with the state police or local PD. After being through defensive tactics geared toward corrections officers (who are largely other than a radio and pepper spray unarmed ), I can tell you most agencies are woefully unprepared for the reality of grappling and the ground . I wrestled in high school and am also a three stripe blue belt in Jiu jitsu. What I know and how well I can do it is far more indispensable than you may realize and I can promise if the majority of officers knew what I know how to do There would be no issue. In my world offenders who are trained in grappling would be your worst nightmare if they were trained In grappling and that’s where once I radio , my backup is 30-45 seconds away. I have NO CLUE what you would do if your support was 10 minutes away. Rickson Gracie says “I am a shark, the ground is my ocean, and most people can’t swim,” and that is just about how it goes . Departments nationwide can not afford to ignore the fact that suspects or offenders trained in mixed martial arts are a thing and will only continue to grow in number . Ten years from now a traffic stop will have the potential to be much more deadly than you can even imagine . Police And correctional departments need to change the thinking from we don’t have the time and money to do this and train adequately, 180 degrees to “we can’t afford to NOT train our officers , or afford NOT to make an active attempt to recruit people with these skills .” THe 21st century of law enforcement and corrections will either be won by offenders and suspects or by corrections and police professionals with sufficient training. Not just to avoid injuries to themselves but also to limit department exposure to litigation from use of force incidents . An officer who has a recourse and does NOT need to escalate to deadly force leads to more safety for himself and the officer. The armed forces figured this out a long time ago; with bayonet training . When I enlisted in the United States Army In 2005 I was taught to use a bayonet and to fight with one and to defend with it , etc. My drill sergeant beat it into my head it wasn’t being the best bayonet fighters that gave us an advantage in war , it was the MENTALITY it takes to be a great bayonet fighter that led us to win . An officer who has that extra ,unseen tool will carry himself with confidence , clarity , and an awareness that simply cannot be replaced . Use of force continuum is a tricky thing to navigate and be perception of danger is a lot different to someone with proper training . Ghandi said “no one can hurt me without my permission,” and when you feel that way, you as an officer feel empowered to do your job , get home safely , and to never feel out of control and use more force than needed , and to have that perception that you can overcome the unfortunate reality of physical altercations with those who would refuse to defer to verbal commands and remain compliant!
Hypothetically, once the officer prepared for the take-down, couldn't he have grabbed the attacker's belt, pulling it as he pushed the attacker's head down?
the only thing about this technique is if the person fakes a take down and throw a punch you are vulnerale to knock out the safest way to do it is to take your interview stance bvack a foot in a half to the safe zone, and side step any attack and counter.
Bad idea to go to "guard" position, he has the ability to get his spyderco out and punch you full of holes. My choice would be anti-grappling, maintain weapon retention and get to one's feet asap.
Aw, this was a really nice post. In concept I want to put in writing like this additionally - taking time and actual effort to make a very good video however what can I say I procrastinate alot and by no means seem to get one thing done.
The stuff I would probably reach at least one arm under the chest to get better leverage. Single leg takedowns can lead to traditionally submissive positions (on the back). Even if he firmly grabs the single leg, if the defender has a good low angle of defense, it can be defended.
That take down defense is okay but I personally prefer one called the Wizard, you basically use one arm to under hook the arm pit of the attacker from the back (look it up), by doing this, you can chuck your opponent to the side, or implore a number of other counter offensive techniques. The wizard, also leaves your other arm free to further attack your opponent. The Wizard is the number one take down defense tool in wrestling, and one that I have used many times. I have four years of high school wrestling and two years of club wrestling in college.
+ Joseph Vickers Yeah this guy is not currently very eloquent with his movement. Might be from an injury or just getting older and a little heavier - seen it happen to many athletes. Or he may just not have trained much. But do not be fooled - there are plenty of people out their that have amazing knowledge but can no longer fully demo the knowledge because of physical issues. A teacher does not have to be a fighter and a fighter is not always a good teacher.
Officer Nance needs to defend with an undeerhook instead of positioning his hands on the back of his opponents head. Training underhooks/whizzers will allow for an instinctual defence to a takedown, giving your brain time to catch up and sprawl effectively. speaking as a sprawl and Brawler here ;)
Have to admit I don't like the idea of giving them my leg. Sprawling is one of the easiest techniques and concepts there is. Giving them your leg and turning it into a ground fighting situation is much, much more technical and dangerous than teaching your officers to sprawl.
Sprawling assumes a ready position, but you don't always get to choose where or when the fight starts, especially when you're distracted looking for people to steal money from.
Not sure that officer is qualified to teach. If I were a “bad guy” and a “wrestler”, I would gladly take that single leg officer. Here’s the secret to good law enforcement defensive tactics, “Get off your a## and train like your life depends on it!” It’s called “tough love.” Lazy and out of shape cops are too common these days. Sad, but true.
Hey guys as a BJJ guy there are way better techniques and tweaks to implement with your sprawl out there than this. He didn’t even mention driving your hips hard into the ground, implementing a cross face etc. it’s better than not know anything but there are lots of resources out there that will serve you better than this.
This is terrible. Proper takedown defense is to use your head, then hands, then forearms, then your sprawl. If the guy gets your leg do not try to strike at that point cause a guy with some grit will take those small strikes and still take you down. The best thing to do at that point is to push the guys head down and hit him in his shoulder with your hip. Keep your boot laces on the mat and when you feel his grip break either go around him to take his back or stand back up and create distance.
Your literally admitting that most cops aren't trained to sprawl...wouldn't you think that important that all officers know how to fight from and deal with confrontation from ground. Like Jujitsu
There's a real good striking point right there if you hit it on the corner right behind the ear. Should knock a guy out every time. Back in the old days sixty years ago there was this little guy that was quick as lightning and he was tough and he got into it with this big dude was a hundred pounds heavier and they would about once a month the big guy would come up there and bet $50 he could beat that little guy little guy throw the 50 on the bar. He danced around their the big guy couldn't hit him. Finally at some point the little guy got outside and always hit him right behind the ear between the ear and the neck kind of the base of the skull. Knockout every time. As soon as this person grabs you is a policeman you have broad Lee way as far as what you do for a response. Fix that guy when he grabbed that leg you've got the ring his Bell.
Having been involved in martial arts for 18 years i have to now realise its all bulshit!!! Having worked as a bouncer for many years i can safely say most of these moves do not work at all....in a dojo where the opponent is willing to go along with the move it works....when u add reality into the mix they dont work. Reallity being someone thats on crystal meth or has a mental inness....iv kicked and punched people so hard it would shock you....choked them as well. Broken jaw...cheeckbone...sternum....they keep coming....through one in front of a car once....didnt stop him. Ok u get the idea!!!
Yes, yang on yang is poor strategy. Meth or mental illness means they are out of control. If you have good self-awareness and technique, their lack of mental organization will help you. If you don't, no flying dim mak kimura will help you. Sadly a person can be involved in martial arts for a lifetime and never find a good enough teacher to truly learn how this works.
Damn !!! You can see it's not working in the video lol sprawl !!!! This is way you don;t have someone who doesn't know anything about takedowns teach how to defend a takedown.
I think of the department can afford it which most big cities can they should require all police officers to train wrestling for at least an hour or a certain amount of hours to put in so they don't have to rely on their firearms and when they're putting those positions they know what to do
A month of Greco-Roman wrestling is 1000% better for LEO than BJJ, other than maybe your first 2 weeks of Gracie combatives to learn scissor sweep and mount escape. Handfighting, throws and defenses from standing, etc, are all far more relevant to someone with a toolbelt, and more advanced and trained more effectively in GR, whereas they're afterthoughts in BJJ, even Gracie.
He will use those moves when the 4th amendment is just too much work. We all need to learn better moves than theirs... It might mean your life against the Gestapo. Honestly, they don't care anymore, why should the law abider?
Cops will win over you any time. You know why? Because they have experience and skill developed over years. Now if you are fighting some out of shape, fat cop, you will probably win the fight but his buddies will kill you and it will be deserved.
The things you teach or good but need much more to it because what if he were to strike at you or caught you off guard or even pitch you in a position that is not good come on I'm 15 I take my own classes Believe me or not but just saying think harder 👮🏻
good video on what not to do. where did you learn this? it's really a good idea for the officers own safety to train in a real grappling art like Judo or Brazilian jujitsu and not just watch TH-cam and take instructions from a training officer who doesn't know what he's doing . go take bjj and judo then start posting videos. scary
K K most us officers have taken traditional classes. This is just basic reminders and ideas. If you see something you like use it. Never stop watching or learning from others. Remember also that our techniques take into consideration the safety of the person your fighting. As a child i was taught traditional chinese kenpo. I am very good at it but i cant kill everyone i have to fight. Best of luck and be safe
k k What if there are no BJJ schools in your area, or you can't afford them? What about if you're taking BJJ but they haven't covered this situation since you've been there but you need it TODAY? BJJ AND Judo? L.O.L., most of us have a life other than MA training. These videos can be useful, don't knock it. "Good video on what not to do"? Be specific if you think he did something wrong, & give a better alternative, instead of just talking trash.
@2:29... “now you’re only offering one leg essentially.” Fuck that. Sprawl! I ain’t offering a leg for a single leg take down. This is bullshit. I agree with you.
@@airbornedaddydan yup, if you give him your leg he can lift it up and do any number of takedowns or grab the other leg and finish a double leg which you can see a lot if in untrained people in street fights. Sprawl with both legs, grab his opposite leg and with one hand and with the other go for a cross face and take his back and ride him. Much safer and more control. Really high percentage and much more control.
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I ran across this channel 6 months ago, Im glad its back in my feed. Just subscribed to make sure I dont lose it again. Great tips!
Being a wrestler this hurts to watch
Being on your back is a strong point for ju jitsu
Lovely Video! Sorry for chiming in, I would appreciate your thoughts. Have you heard the talk about - Chireetler Dread Free Rule (should be on google have a look)? It is an awesome one off product for learning effective self defence moves without the normal expense. Ive heard some decent things about it and my friend Sam at last got excellent success with it.
I totally understand. And it saddens me that me cops have a myriad of rules to abide by while criminals operate with no rules. WTF!
Me too man
You're right. This is legitimately terrible.
I am a bounty hunter here in texas and these tips are perfect. I wrestled in highschool for 2 years and the take down techniques are very helpful in the real world scenario
Surge right now I'm in the wrestling in school
How about some bjj and wrestling classes
@bangmeister2012 yes I have. And been around shootouts. Wrestling and BJJ are a must.
Surge bounty hunter? Why you outta paper towels??
Mark Bruno I appreciated that lmao
And they say wrestling is gay 🤦🏻♂️ it really helps sometimes to have a wreslting background
Yeah it is gay. Who wants to have some other guys nuts on their back while being straddled with a skin tight bodysuit on?
Ogami Itto, The Executioner a wrestler sure doesn’t.
Who wants to be dunked on with guy’s nuts in your face?
Who wants to be knocked out by Mike tyson?
Who wants to be juked in a football game? ...hit hard in a football game?
Hahaha stupid questions, right?
Totally agree. I am trained mostly as a stand up fighter, but I realize I must up my ground fighting skills.
Yeah
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You just got yourself a new subscriber! :)
Remember head control. Pushing the subjects head down and not allowing it to come up helps defend the take down l.
Also, found that out the hard way.
Good information Rich, thank you for sharing and helping our sisters and brothers in blue get better. Khillah
STFU 😂
Imma beat up my dog and mother, boiii they ain't gon stand a chance 😎
this is good stuff. thank you
Jesus Freak Agree with you.
Great Video! Forgive me for butting in, I would appreciate your thoughts. Have you thought about - Chireetler Dread Free Rule (do a search on google)? It is an awesome one of a kind guide for learning self effective defence moves without the headache. Ive heard some pretty good things about it and my m8 at last got cool results with it.
nice video. Im a CO and I would advise any deputy or CO or Cop to take martial arts on their off time. That sprawl is very important to do encase they try take you down, I know Im have extensive wrestling background and its fits well with my Krav Maga training. Also, being comfortable on the ground is very important just encase you find yourself actually on the ground.
anthon
the bad part about the half guard position on the ground is that the other guy's hands are free. He could've reached for that belt
Every position has "bad parts".
Wrist pressure point will disarm you
Yeah, found that out the hard way.
I watch this and shutter... the last thing you want to do is strike before defending the takedown. that is the best way to ensure getting taken down. Never defend and strike at the same time... this is a 101 cardinal rule. Either strike with an uppercut or knee on the way in or defend the takedown and move forward with weapon retention and standing back up.
Claudiu Szenasi I half way agree with you. If he was .ore aware of his ground tactics a palm strike to the ear could help him. With head control practically given to him in the stunt he could have mentioned something about that also. But still good tactic for someone WHO DOESNT KNOW what to do.
Claudiu Szenasi oh also my bad I didn't fully read what u said cause my phone glitched half your self sentence out but yeah. Knee or upper cutting. Really stuff the take down switch to his back can either body triangle with a rare naked choke why other officer grabs hands or something along those lines. Not a cop just a fighter :)
Claudiu Szenasi
If the attackers head is not tucked a 12 to 6 elbow would be my first preference.
Gents in ALOT of states RNC is NOT an option unless lethal force can be articulated hell your arm hangs around the neck go see IA. And the techniques have too be created and done for numerous and vast majority of body types etc. not the best techniques here but they will do in a pinch since its going in right direction. The avg LEO does NOT train even slightly and DT in most areas is NOT mandatory like firearms. I would love for officers too be mandated to train and be physically fit etc. but it doesn't work that way right now. If I told you some of the crap that is taught at various depts. your head would explode like mines does since its horrible.
GST take down defense and survival, or KMWW FTD both have excellent and more realistic results for this maneuver, especially in gear and a vest. Sprawls are not always a great option, especially with elemental or terrain concerns.
Q: 3:05 If you do that getting his head closer to your chest, wouldn't he just be able to bite you? That would be forcing you to let go or suffer the biting pain.
I think it is tricky, if people know how to set up a takedown. The way shown in the video is almost the same as I do it but still: If someone is good, he can go into a takedown in a fraction of a second after a punching sequence or something. The reaction time is very vers small there. For example if the opponent makes you move backwards and then moves into a takedown very fast, it is much harder to react than if the attacker lunches from 2 meters away. Keep that in mind. Best regards
Lowering your center of gravity is good but a better option than striking is to frame with your forearm across the upper chest neck area. Striking will likely cause him to continue to close the distance to get inside your strikes while framing will allow you to create distance and drive his center of gravity up preventing the takedown.
What do you think about a knee strike to the attacker's chin as he comes in low for the takedown?
Do it!
Lmao
Can you design a program on the oculus? Thank you 🙏
For all those who are saying this is BS where is your video on this? If you think you have better skill and techniques show us!! Most cops are not life long martial artists. So again show how you think you can do better or keep silent!
The "take down defense is bs guard work looked good tho. No need to put out a vid due to the thousands of vids from Olympians, champions and top coaches in disciplines. If these defence moves can be used effectively on the best in the world. They will be highly effective to the untrained moron criminal.
Oh no, public dissenting opinion. We must squash it quickly
take your shoes off on the mat!!!
Ain't gonna have time to kick off your boys in a fight
Why they ain't going to take your shoes off on the concrete when they're being tackled
:robber I'm a tackle you
:Cop oh let me take my shoes off
Me dude you dumb Brian Anders
Police departments have no trouble asking for a background in criminal justice or a clean background check or good credit and a million other things .
Start INCENTIVIZING officers with this training with bonuses to start or bumps to salary; begin employing civilians with the training required to arm departments !
95% of fights go to the ground the greater majority of the time there is no magic silver bullet defensive tactics move to stop a grappler. The trouble is ; any good grappler is a master of trying one move, troubleshooting it , switching between techniques , and capitalizing on space, lack thereof, whatever Limbs you leave hanging , your balance and the terrain you fight on (is it hilly, are you standing in gravel, is it wet out , etc)
Everywhere I go I hear about budgetary concerns and time it takes to train.
I’m personally in corrections now and finishing my CJ degree until I can get with the state police or local PD.
After being through defensive tactics geared toward corrections officers (who are largely other than a radio and pepper spray unarmed ), I can tell you most agencies are woefully unprepared for the reality of grappling and the ground .
I wrestled in high school and am also a three stripe blue belt in Jiu jitsu.
What I know and how well I can do it is far more indispensable than you may realize and I can promise if the majority of officers knew what I know how to do There would be no issue.
In my world offenders who are trained in grappling would be your worst nightmare if they were trained In grappling and that’s where once I radio , my backup is 30-45 seconds away.
I have NO CLUE what you would do if your support was 10 minutes away.
Rickson Gracie says “I am a shark, the ground is my ocean, and most people can’t swim,” and that is just about how it goes .
Departments nationwide can not afford to ignore the fact that suspects or offenders trained in mixed martial arts are a thing and will only continue to grow in number .
Ten years from now a traffic stop will have the potential to be much more deadly than you can even imagine .
Police And correctional departments need to change the thinking from we don’t have the time and money to do this and train adequately, 180 degrees to “we can’t afford to NOT train our officers , or afford NOT to make an active attempt to recruit people with these skills .”
THe 21st century of law enforcement and corrections will either be won by offenders and suspects or by corrections and police professionals with sufficient training.
Not just to avoid injuries to themselves but also to limit department exposure to litigation from use of force incidents . An officer who has a recourse and does NOT need to escalate to deadly force leads to more safety for himself and the officer.
The armed forces figured this out a long time ago; with bayonet training .
When I enlisted in the United States Army In 2005 I was taught to use a bayonet and to fight with one and to defend with it , etc.
My drill sergeant beat it into my head it wasn’t being the best bayonet fighters that gave us an advantage in war , it was the MENTALITY it takes to be a great bayonet fighter that led us to win .
An officer who has that extra ,unseen tool will carry himself with confidence , clarity , and an awareness that simply cannot be replaced . Use of force continuum is a tricky thing to navigate and be perception of danger is a lot different to someone with proper training .
Ghandi said “no one can hurt me without my permission,” and when you feel that way, you as an officer feel empowered to do your job , get home safely , and to never feel out of control and use more force than needed , and to have that perception that you can overcome the unfortunate reality of physical altercations with those who would refuse to defer to verbal commands and remain compliant!
Spralling is too advanced for the average officer? Oh dear lord please train our officers better
Hypothetically, once the officer prepared for the take-down, couldn't he have grabbed the attacker's belt, pulling it as he pushed the attacker's head down?
Hypothetically, he could have used ki power to no touch kill him from 30 feet.
If only all those guys Royce Gracie fought knew they could just step one leg back...
Not everyone on the street is Royce Gracie. Much less the crack head down the block.
@@kristiannoetorres doesn't change that this bullshit is legitimately terrible
I think wrestling and boxing is the most natural way to fight.
Criminals do not fight naturally. Criminals have no rules. Cops should not have rules when dealing criminals committing acts of violence against cops.
the only thing about this technique is if the person fakes a take down and throw a punch you are vulnerale to knock out the safest way to do it is to take your interview stance bvack a foot in a half to the safe zone, and side step any attack and counter.
Bad idea to go to "guard" position, he has the ability to get his spyderco out and punch you full of holes. My choice would be anti-grappling, maintain weapon retention and get to one's feet asap.
I don't think they were suggesting to pull guard on purpose, but I agree 100% with your stated strategy.
Aw, this was a really nice post. In concept I want to put in writing like this additionally - taking time and actual effort to make a very good video however what can I say I procrastinate alot and by no means seem to get one thing done.
If sprawling is too advanced. Turn in your badge till you learn a little combat
@dont settle sprawling isn’t everything dude
READY, SPRAWL....SPRAWL...SPRAWL
The stuff I would probably reach at least one arm under the chest to get better leverage. Single leg takedowns can lead to traditionally submissive positions (on the back). Even if he firmly grabs the single leg, if the defender has a good low angle of defense, it can be defended.
At the end up in the ground as an officer can you do up kicks
That take down defense is okay but I personally prefer one called the Wizard, you basically use one arm to under hook the arm pit of the attacker from the back (look it up), by doing this, you can chuck your opponent to the side, or implore a number of other counter offensive techniques. The wizard, also leaves your other arm free to further attack your opponent. The Wizard is the number one take down defense tool in wrestling, and one that I have used many times. I have four years of high school wrestling and two years of club wrestling in college.
Whizzer*
@@kristiannoetorres you are correct sir
Feller on left enjoys finishing the instructors sentences..
Jamming is superior to sprawling any day of the week.
Yeah but you gotta be prepared for what to do if you don't have your guitar with you.
That was certainly one goofy looking sprawl.
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Joseph Vickers
Yeah this guy is not currently very eloquent with his movement. Might be from an injury or just getting older and a little heavier - seen it happen to many athletes.
Or he may just not have trained much.
But do not be fooled - there are plenty of people out their that have amazing knowledge but can no longer fully demo the knowledge because of physical issues. A teacher does not have to be a fighter and a fighter is not always a good teacher.
Why would you even offer him one leg? Get underhooks, down block or proper full sprawl if he really is in deep
Officer Nance needs to defend with an undeerhook instead of positioning his hands on the back of his opponents head. Training underhooks/whizzers will allow for an instinctual defence to a takedown, giving your brain time to catch up and sprawl effectively. speaking as a sprawl and Brawler here ;)
Have to admit I don't like the idea of giving them my leg. Sprawling is one of the easiest techniques and concepts there is. Giving them your leg and turning it into a ground fighting situation is much, much more technical and dangerous than teaching your officers to sprawl.
Sprawling assumes a ready position, but you don't always get to choose where or when the fight starts, especially when you're distracted looking for people to steal money from.
Not my choice of techniques but I'll give you a c for effort which doesn't apply to the majority of officers.
Did it bother anyone else that he said to widen his stance to that extreme and give up a leg? Just asking for a high crotch or a leg sweep…
Nice video!
Gallardo
if you cops would just get in shape...
Im tryna get this police job and learn somemore about that stuff that stuff actually works 👌🏻
no active grappling...this is a fail. Show it with active resistance or it doesn't work.
Not sure that officer is qualified to teach. If I were a “bad guy” and a “wrestler”, I would gladly take that single leg officer. Here’s the secret to good law enforcement defensive tactics, “Get off your a## and train like your life depends on it!”
It’s called “tough love.” Lazy and out of shape cops are too common these days. Sad, but true.
Take some BJJ classes very useful for this scenario.
Get it? When geezer come at you......Just engage him in animated conversation!
Omg he karate chops the back of his head
Is this from napolean dynamite?
I just feel this guy would get wrecked lol
This is copquan-do
Hey guys as a BJJ guy there are way better techniques and tweaks to implement with your sprawl out there than this. He didn’t even mention driving your hips hard into the ground, implementing a cross face etc. it’s better than not know anything but there are lots of resources out there that will serve you better than this.
I wrestled 103 in high school and easily kicked the shit out of any one on the varsity basketball team.
I use this defensive technique all the time.
This is terrible. Proper takedown defense is to use your head, then hands, then forearms, then your sprawl. If the guy gets your leg do not try to strike at that point cause a guy with some grit will take those small strikes and still take you down. The best thing to do at that point is to push the guys head down and hit him in his shoulder with your hip. Keep your boot laces on the mat and when you feel his grip break either go around him to take his back or stand back up and create distance.
Im not just a puncher I been trained for this moment not that serious
If somewone lowers you follow,open the hands from inside,distract,take one hand and put him down!
Don’t work that way brother
Your literally admitting that most cops aren't trained to sprawl...wouldn't you think that important that all officers know how to fight from and deal with confrontation from ground. Like Jujitsu
There's a real good striking point right there if you hit it on the corner right behind the ear. Should knock a guy out every time. Back in the old days sixty years ago there was this little guy that was quick as lightning and he was tough and he got into it with this big dude was a hundred pounds heavier and they would about once a month the big guy would come up there and bet $50 he could beat that little guy little guy throw the 50 on the bar. He danced around their the big guy couldn't hit him. Finally at some point the little guy got outside and always hit him right behind the ear between the ear and the neck kind of the base of the skull. Knockout every time. As soon as this person grabs you is a policeman you have broad Lee way as far as what you do for a response. Fix that guy when he grabbed that leg you've got the ring his Bell.
If u wanted to better your ground I'd advise no gi jiu jitsu or gi. Either way you'll stand better chance with ground game in your pocket
This is not a ground technique
Instinct moves
Put your weight on him! It makes it harder for him to put you down. Then you can walk your legs back!
Like this is not a sprawl. As a police officer and a wrestler 17 years. Do not do this my blue fam.
We teach very similar stuff
Good thing I’m doing wrestling
This is stupid and it will put you straight to jail. Never touch the neck area.
That cop has no idea what he is teaching you always sprawl with under hooks in
Awesome
How about teaching the civil rights?
Law Enforcement self defense is a joke
Sad sad sad did it myself when i went through the police academy
Seriously. Shit videos like this only add to the problem too.
Yeah, it's not really self-defense when you're the attacker.
This cop would get knocked tf out lmao
Love this... 😏👍
Just keep your knee up he can't get on top of you
I'd mess that guy up if he wasn't armed. You're top heavy brother get lower
Thats it? Your defence so simple
Nevee ill be slammed in school agian
Having been involved in martial arts for 18 years i have to now realise its all bulshit!!! Having worked as a bouncer for many years i can safely say most of these moves do not work at all....in a dojo where the opponent is willing to go along with the move it works....when u add reality into the mix they dont work. Reallity being someone thats on crystal meth or has a mental inness....iv kicked and punched people so hard it would shock you....choked them as well. Broken jaw...cheeckbone...sternum....they keep coming....through one in front of a car once....didnt stop him. Ok u get the idea!!!
Yes, yang on yang is poor strategy. Meth or mental illness means they are out of control. If you have good self-awareness and technique, their lack of mental organization will help you. If you don't, no flying dim mak kimura will help you. Sadly a person can be involved in martial arts for a lifetime and never find a good enough teacher to truly learn how this works.
Damn !!! You can see it's not working in the video lol sprawl !!!! This is way you don;t have someone who doesn't know anything about takedowns teach how to defend a takedown.
Fight there ass with the video camera and your rights
Fuck that ..don't fight the police..there's to many of them and you will end getting shot ,hit with 74 bullets
I think of the department can afford it which most big cities can they should require all police officers to train wrestling for at least an hour or a certain amount of hours to put in so they don't have to rely on their firearms and when they're putting those positions they know what to do
All law enforcement agencies should offer to pay for their personnel to train in Gracie Jiu-Jitsu....problem solved.
A month of Greco-Roman wrestling is 1000% better for LEO than BJJ, other than maybe your first 2 weeks of Gracie combatives to learn scissor sweep and mount escape. Handfighting, throws and defenses from standing, etc, are all far more relevant to someone with a toolbelt, and more advanced and trained more effectively in GR, whereas they're afterthoughts in BJJ, even Gracie.
Bad idea for law enforcement where there may be multiple bad guys (or gals) in many situations.
Just train jujitsu. There is no substitute for combat experience
That cop literally helped us learn nothing other than to spread your legs when an aggressive male comes at you
I've seen this before I guess
Police Jujutsu?
Jiujitsu
ı hope they arrested him self for showing his poor technique :D
He will use those moves when the 4th amendment is just too much work. We all need to learn better moves than theirs... It might mean your life against the Gestapo. Honestly, they don't care anymore, why should the law abider?
Cops will win over you any time. You know why? Because they have experience and skill developed over years. Now if you are fighting some out of shape, fat cop, you will probably win the fight but his buddies will kill you and it will be deserved.
Shut up
Fun fact, cops are allowed to use force to defend themselves
I've seen this before guess
The things you teach or good but need much more to it because what if he were to strike at you or caught you off guard or even pitch you in a position that is not good come on I'm 15 I take my own classes Believe me or not but just saying think harder 👮🏻
Learn to shrimp
U guys were so actward
Copquando.
Just learn jujitsu
Lol that's why the cop's today shoot before they ask you're name.alot less quality officer's today!!!
Sad
good video on what not to do. where did you learn this? it's really a good idea for the officers own safety to train in a real grappling art like Judo or Brazilian jujitsu and not just watch TH-cam and take instructions from a training officer who doesn't know what he's doing . go take bjj and judo then start posting videos. scary
K K most us officers have taken traditional classes. This is just basic reminders and ideas. If you see something you like use it. Never stop watching or learning from others. Remember also that our techniques take into consideration the safety of the person your fighting. As a child i was taught traditional chinese kenpo. I am very good at it but i cant kill everyone i have to fight. Best of luck and be safe
k k
What if there are no BJJ schools in your area, or you can't afford them? What about if you're taking BJJ but they haven't covered this situation since you've been there but you need it TODAY? BJJ AND Judo? L.O.L., most of us have a life other than MA training. These videos can be useful, don't knock it.
"Good video on what not to do"? Be specific if you think he did something wrong, & give a better alternative, instead of just talking trash.
@2:29... “now you’re only offering one leg essentially.” Fuck that. Sprawl! I ain’t offering a leg for a single leg take down. This is bullshit. I agree with you.
@@airbornedaddydan yup, if you give him your leg he can lift it up and do any number of takedowns or grab the other leg and finish a double leg which you can see a lot if in untrained people in street fights. Sprawl with both legs, grab his opposite leg and with one hand and with the other go for a cross face and take his back and ride him. Much safer and more control. Really high percentage and much more control.
But they use it against the innocent too....
I’m sorry, but this is awful technique…
Bla bla bla. This guy only talks.