I have never used it on a engine but I mix 50% acetone and 50% automatic transmission fluid. I have taken loose bolts I thought would never come out, I even used it on a PTO shaft on my Kubota G1900 lawn mower, the shaft was stuck on the mid PTO and I couldn't get it off for nothing. I then poured my mixture on and let it sit over night. The next day I gave it a tap with a hammer and it slid right off. That sold me on that stuff right there!
Great information! We got an old frozen engine running using Aero Kroil. Same deal, let it soak a few weeks, then hand cranked the old starter crank! Had to stand on it at first, but eventually it was free enough to got the next steps and she runs well now. 1949 TD6
The boss bought a welder on a skid powered by a 2-53 detroit. Motor was locked bad, I broke a 24" pipe wrench using a 4ft cheeter pipe. Rethought things a bit. Used a product made by Zep. Pulled the cover plates off the motor and started spraying zep 45 into the cylinders, then air blow gun to blow crude and help the zep45 work into the piston rings, used a whole can. About and hour later I took an 18" cresent wrench on the front crank bolt, just bumping back and forth, it finally made a complete turn. I hooked a battery to it and it started right up, course it smoked for a bit but cleared up. Darn thing turned out to be a good little motor.....
Ed's Red has worked for me. It's just a combination of acetone, kerosene, and transmission fluid. It has freed up two of mine and even a pump shot gun I left in the rain and forgot about.
I've used this several times and it's worked. The last time on a cub that sat out in the weather for years with the manifold off. Mix auto trans fluid 1 to 1 with break fluid and pore it in the cylinders. Let it sit a few days, put the tractor in high gear and rock it back and forth a few times. If it doesn't turn rock it some more tomorrow and the next day until is breaks loose. If it's been several weeks and it's still stuck go to plan B whatever that is.
ATF thinned with a little diesel in the cylinders. Yank valve cover so you can close/open valves as needed, and compressed air through the sparkplug/injector hole. alternate pressurizing cylinders to rock it back and forth. Air also helps push the oil down around the rings
Good idea. you're on the right track... I use acetone/ATF to soak them. The compressed air is a good idea, you're thinking right, but I use something much more forceful than compressed air...
Ok, What I do is put marvel mystery oil in cylinders. Try to get a breaker bar or big wrench on damper wheel and physically break it loose. Last ditch I pull off starter and using a big screwdriver or pry bar I angle it and catch the ring gear and lever it to break it loose. This is risky but so far I have unfrozen several tractors without breaking the ring gear. Once the crank turns a little, let it sit with the thin oil in it overnight. Replace starter and fireup with starting fluid for only a moment. Make sure battery is hot. Good Luck
Just bought a styled WC. I yanked the head off and determined that #2 and #3 are stuck tight. I've been soaking it in ATF/acetone for a week. I've got one wheel off the ground and I put it in gear and violently rock it back and forth a few times a day. It'll break loose any day now.
Overhead valves you loosen rocker shaft till valves are closed. Break the porcelain off your spark plugs. Braze an airline fitting to the spark plug base. Pour in a few ounces of Marvel. Hook an air line up to it. On flat head motors you remove the exhaust pipe and carburetor then fabricate a plug for each one. Finish with oil and air pressure in the cylinders. Do not use acid, vinegar, torch etc.
Great video. I haven’t tried it but I always thought pouring oil in the cylinders and then heating up the block to expand it might work. One I do always when parking a unit for the winter is to squirt a little oil down each cylinder and turning it over to spread the oil over the walks. When I do that I have NVA had one seize up on me. The one time I didn’t was on a motorcycle that sat for over a year while I was overseas. It seized up tighter than the hubs of hell when I got home.
I had a Olive 70 that was a old restore that I bought at a auction. The engine was stuck but I figured it wasn't to bad given the condition of the tractor. I emptied a can of "Liquid Wrench" in it and it sat for about a week. I put the tractor in the highest gear grabbed hold of the rear tire and rocked the tractor back an forth. The engine came right loose! I was amazed that it went so easy!
I've had success breaking em loose by hooking em up to another tractor with a push n pull bar. Put the stuck one in gear and just keep bumping the clutch on the other tractor. Some will break loose.
If the head is off find a smaller junk piston that fits the bore place a bottle Jack On it wrap a chain around the motor and apply psi works best with frame rails if not place 2x4 under the chain so it don’t ruin oil pans or parts
I have read that cylinders filled with brake fluid and ignited will free one up.I have used classic coke and after soaking three days the engine would turn.
I am working on a IH 504 diesel. We parked it in the barn for about 7-8 years and it froze up tight. Never seen a drop of rain. I soaked for about 3 months and no luck. A am currently rebuilding the motor. Even the cam lobes and pitted on the bottom from condensation. I guess it could of had a leaky head gasket and didn’t know. Lesson learned to start equipment at least couple times a year.
Deere 6430 As Crazy D mentioned, it could also be due to condensation from heating/cooling inside the barn. Weather does crazy things to machines that aren't used regularly. Good luck with your rebuild! We gotta save the ones that we can!
That D-12 is a pretty rare tractor! Is it an industrial unit or is the Persian Orange paint (that I love so much!) just baked so bad that it looks yellow? Either way, I loved the video (that I requested) on the D series! Thanks for doing it! My D-17 is coming along slowly but surely. I do know several people that swear by olive oil. Even though I've never tried it, I've also seen it work first hand. I've also heard of using iodine but have no experience with it. The very best thing I've found, and what I use, is a 50/50 mix of acetone and ATF. I learned about it back in the 70s helping grandpa in the shop. It works 99.9% of the time. The only thing is that it will separate if left setting in a container. If you mix more than what you need, just shake it well before using it again. I also keep a squirt bottle of it for spraying on frozen nuts/bolts. Shake it well, spray the fastener, smack it with a hammer a couple of times, go have lunch (or a couple cold ones), come back and spin the fastener right off. It might take a couple tries, but it does work. In the rare case that it doesn't, the next option is the "blue nosed wrench". Can't wait to see what happens with the iodine treatment, as well as the rest of this Lil Allis!
Getting ready to try this on a super A. Went to do a set of fork seals on a friend's old Harley today. And had the wrong seals. So he asked about checking his A. Barn kept. Decent looking enough. Been soaking cylinders for like a year. Tight as a drum. Let you know if this works. Thanks.
Do yourself a favor. Remove the plugs and fill the cylinders with white vinegar, give it a few days to a week and crank it over. The vinegar will eat away your pistons if left in there too long.
Tighter than a drum? My favorite one is "Tighter than Dick's hatband."🤣 I love old tractors and currently have a fully restored 1963 Ford 2000 4 cylinder gas tractor. I love it!❤❤
A few years ago, I had a 424 international, that was full of water , cylinders rusted, and clutch was stuck. A buddy told me about a water based WD40. His theroy is that water dissolves rust. I thought he was beyond nuts. I tried it, because I had tried everything else. Well, guess he was not so nuts, because after a week of soak, it came free easily. Use that tractor to this day.
I’m taking on a project to restore a Farmall 450 diesel that’s been in the family since it was new. Engine got stuck. Can’t remember how long it’s been like that
We just scoped it earlier today and you can see it bubbling so it must be doing something but yeah. John Deere's are super hard to get unstuck I've tried many many many things it's the way the cylinder sit I don't think stuff soaks in as well being that they sit horizontal not vertical
I had a buddy working on a JD 60 that was stuck quite a few years ago that sat for many years, He put 2 come alongs on the side belt pulley and filled the cylinders with oil and kept tension on it and every few weeks he kept reversing them to put the tension the opposite direction, and every so often he would try to just rock the tractor back and forth, and after about a year or so it finally broke lose and he got it running.
I've used the iodine that he has there the blue little bottles it's not cheap s*** but it worked got a f12 Farmall running again after it's been sitting outside for 20 years I think these guys do a pretty damn good job at their videos I got quite a few of them all different quality of video some of them are really good some of them ain't so great but they're all slightly entertaining if not quite entertaining
If you pull start it using a diesel running on recycled cooking oil, you could call it "The fries and a coke treatment?" Even if it didn't work, it would be a good day.
You never answered the basic question... Did it work or not? What a waste of my time! Your video reminds me of the song " little less talk and a lot more action".
First thing this is only part one of the video there's a second part apparently you weren't paying attention because I clearly state that in the video thank you for coming in and watching
Best thing I ever did was sell the 641L family Heirloom tractor. No antique to work on the every year when I want to mow or let it sit out in our 40 inch average rainfall climate even through one bad storm and have to change all the fluids. My wife hated it as I was always tinkering with it, new ignition parts, propane parts, charging system etc. She made me buy a new one, that's why I married her. Yes you can fix most anything on them for 20 bucks but it's the time. Nope not for me they can melt every last one of these back into nuggets. lol
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I have never used it on a engine but I mix 50% acetone and 50% automatic transmission fluid. I have taken loose bolts I thought would never come out, I even used it on a PTO shaft on my Kubota G1900 lawn mower, the shaft was stuck on the mid PTO and I couldn't get it off for nothing. I then poured my mixture on and let it sit over night. The next day I gave it a tap with a hammer and it slid right off. That sold me on that stuff right there!
yeah acetone/atf is legit
Great information!
We got an old frozen engine running using Aero Kroil.
Same deal, let it soak a few weeks, then hand cranked the old starter crank!
Had to stand on it at first, but eventually it was free enough to got the next steps and she runs well now.
1949 TD6
Great video I always used brake fluid works in one day
Yup break fluid has always worked best for me 👍
50/50 mixture acetone and transmission fluid
The boss bought a welder on a skid powered by a 2-53 detroit. Motor was locked bad, I broke a 24" pipe wrench using a 4ft cheeter pipe. Rethought things a bit. Used a product made by Zep. Pulled the cover plates off the motor and started spraying zep 45 into the cylinders, then air blow gun to blow crude and help the zep45 work into the piston rings, used a whole can. About and hour later I took an 18" cresent wrench on the front crank bolt, just bumping back and forth, it finally made a complete turn. I hooked a battery to it and it started right up, course it smoked for a bit but cleared up. Darn thing turned out to be a good little motor.....
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Acetone and ATF transmission fluid 50/50 best penatrent you can use.
That's what I use. Works great.
Ed's Red has worked for me. It's just a combination of acetone, kerosene, and transmission fluid. It has freed up two of mine and even a pump shot gun I left in the rain and forgot about.
I've used this several times and it's worked. The last time on a cub that sat out in the weather for years with the manifold off. Mix auto trans fluid 1 to 1 with break fluid and pore it in the cylinders. Let it sit a few days, put the tractor in high gear and rock it back and forth a few times. If it doesn't turn rock it some more tomorrow and the next day until is breaks loose. If it's been several weeks and it's still stuck go to plan B whatever that is.
ATF thinned with a little diesel in the cylinders. Yank valve cover so you can close/open valves as needed, and compressed air through the sparkplug/injector hole. alternate pressurizing cylinders to rock it back and forth. Air also helps push the oil down around the rings
Good idea. you're on the right track... I use acetone/ATF to soak them. The compressed air is a good idea, you're thinking right, but I use something much more forceful than compressed air...
ATF fluid is the best because its a high detergent oil. I've been at this kind of stuff since I was 12 years old back on the farm.
I've seen that as well. Old farmers trick of the trade.
Ok, What I do is put marvel mystery oil in cylinders. Try to get a breaker bar or big wrench on damper wheel and physically break it loose. Last ditch I pull off starter and using a big screwdriver or pry bar I angle it and catch the ring gear and lever it to break it loose. This is risky but so far I have unfrozen several tractors without breaking the ring gear. Once the crank turns a little, let it sit with the thin oil in it overnight. Replace starter and fireup with starting fluid for only a moment. Make sure battery is hot. Good Luck
Just bought a styled WC. I yanked the head off and determined that #2 and #3 are stuck tight. I've been soaking it in ATF/acetone for a week. I've got one wheel off the ground and I put it in gear and violently rock it back and forth a few times a day. It'll break loose any day now.
Gas on the cylinder at TDC and hook jumper cables up to the plug and ground
Overhead valves you loosen rocker shaft till valves are closed. Break the porcelain off your spark plugs. Braze an airline fitting to the spark plug base. Pour in a few ounces of Marvel. Hook an air line up to it. On flat head motors you remove the exhaust pipe and carburetor then fabricate a plug for each one. Finish with oil and air pressure in the cylinders. Do not use acid, vinegar, torch etc.
Great video. I haven’t tried it but I always thought pouring oil in the cylinders and then heating up the block to expand it might work. One I do always when parking a unit for the winter is to squirt a little oil down each cylinder and turning it over to spread the oil over the walks. When I do that I have NVA had one seize up on me. The one time I didn’t was on a motorcycle that sat for over a year while I was overseas. It seized up tighter than the hubs of hell when I got home.
I had a Olive 70 that was a old restore that I bought at a auction. The engine was stuck but I figured it wasn't to bad given the condition of the tractor. I emptied a can of "Liquid Wrench" in it and it sat for about a week. I put the tractor in the highest gear grabbed hold of the rear tire and rocked the tractor back an forth. The engine came right loose! I was amazed that it went so easy!
I have seen this work rocking the rear tire back and forth with transmission in high gear
50 /50 mix ATF and lacquer thinner
Break fluid and metho works well
On my old Samson M, I used red Loctite mixed with bubble gum.
I've had success breaking em loose by hooking em up to another tractor with a push n pull bar. Put the stuck one in gear and just keep bumping the clutch on the other tractor. Some will break loose.
If the head is off find a smaller junk piston that fits the bore place a bottle Jack On it wrap a chain around the motor and apply psi works best with frame rails if not place 2x4 under the chain so it don’t ruin oil pans or parts
Makes sense on the olive oil. It is a weak acid and some can be up to 2%. The acid likely softened and ate at the rust enough that it got it free
I have read that cylinders filled with brake fluid and ignited will free one up.I have used classic coke and after soaking three days the engine would turn.
I am working on a IH 504 diesel. We parked it in the barn for about 7-8 years and it froze up tight. Never seen a drop of rain. I soaked for about 3 months and no luck. A am currently rebuilding the motor. Even the cam lobes and pitted on the bottom from condensation. I guess it could of had a leaky head gasket and didn’t know. Lesson learned to start equipment at least couple times a year.
Deere 6430 As Crazy D mentioned, it could also be due to condensation from heating/cooling inside the barn. Weather does crazy things to machines that aren't used regularly. Good luck with your rebuild! We gotta save the ones that we can!
I have used atf brake fluid and diesel fuel in thirds works well
That D-12 is a pretty rare tractor! Is it an industrial unit or is the Persian Orange paint (that I love so much!) just baked so bad that it looks yellow? Either way, I loved the video (that I requested) on the D series! Thanks for doing it! My D-17 is coming along slowly but surely.
I do know several people that swear by olive oil. Even though I've never tried it, I've also seen it work first hand. I've also heard of using iodine but have no experience with it. The very best thing I've found, and what I use, is a 50/50 mix of acetone and ATF. I learned about it back in the 70s helping grandpa in the shop. It works 99.9% of the time. The only thing is that it will separate if left setting in a container. If you mix more than what you need, just shake it well before using it again. I also keep a squirt bottle of it for spraying on frozen nuts/bolts. Shake it well, spray the fastener, smack it with a hammer a couple of times, go have lunch (or a couple cold ones), come back and spin the fastener right off. It might take a couple tries, but it does work. In the rare case that it doesn't, the next option is the "blue nosed wrench".
Can't wait to see what happens with the iodine treatment, as well as the rest of this Lil Allis!
I haven't tryed it but next time I'm planing to is 50 50 molasses and water it's eats away rust though it would be a possible
Getting ready to try this on a super A. Went to do a set of fork seals on a friend's old Harley today. And had the wrong seals. So he asked about checking his A.
Barn kept. Decent looking enough. Been soaking cylinders for like a year. Tight as a drum.
Let you know if this works.
Thanks.
Apple cider vinegar. Will eat all the rust in about 4 days maybe litt longer. It works used for many years
Used that trick while pulling the tractor around the barnyard . Freed up but ended up with a rebuild .
Do yourself a favor. Remove the plugs and fill the cylinders with white vinegar, give it a few days to a week and crank it over. The vinegar will eat away your pistons if left in there too long.
Crazy D, is there an history of Hydrolock on tractors?
If turning crank bolt doesn’t get it free use a pipe wrench on pulley won’t have any slop like the bolt will
I've heard of this but don't know if it works. Also heard acetone and atf. Hope it works.
Tighter than a drum? My favorite one is "Tighter than Dick's hatband."🤣 I love old tractors and currently have a fully restored 1963 Ford 2000 4 cylinder gas tractor. I love it!❤❤
A few years ago, I had a 424 international, that was full of water , cylinders rusted, and clutch was stuck. A buddy told me about a water based WD40. His theroy is that water dissolves rust. I thought he was beyond nuts. I tried it, because I had tried everything else. Well, guess he was not so nuts, because after a week of soak, it came free easily. Use that tractor to this day.
Correction - coal oil
IVE never heard of it I heard of some 1 using brown vinegar it is suppose 2 eat the rust up 😊😊 OMG 8 18 2O23
Doc, it might be that it works because at higher strength it is considered ACIDIC
I used white vinegar on my allis chalmers wd45 and it only took two days to unfreeze and it has been stuck for 6 years
Have a early ford 39 valves stuck in open position. Anything you pour in cylinders in run right out ..
Any suggestions..
First time ever on tractors
Enjoyed the video great information
cam lifters stick quickly
Ok buddy I will watch one more video 🚜 and I really got to get up to the farm, lol
I’m taking on a project to restore a Farmall 450 diesel that’s been in the family since it was new. Engine got stuck. Can’t remember how long it’s been like that
GO DOC GO 😈
New viewer! New sub. Thanks for the info!!
ive heard atf and acetone but never tried. might try on my farmall super m thats been sitting uncanned for a long time
Where do you buy your trousers?
Used coke a cola on a lowboy cub. After letting it set for a week, Pulled it around the yard and it broke loose.
Hydrotex Essentialube works wonders.
Can you even get that stuff anymore?
@@Blazefork They still have a website.
www.essentialube.com/
Thank you. ...if nothing else the smell says it's working lol
PB Blaster.
In warmer weather I used coca cola, worked great
Best way is to tear it all apart and do a motor job.
no the best way is to tear it all apart and do a motor job.
Is that a Ducati 900SS in the background?
An old timer I knew used to use coal which I think is a form of kerosene.
What brand iodine an how many Oz per bottle
PB BLASTER is very OVERATED.....it’s never worked very well for me. ZEP penetrants have worked fairly well.
Strong Vinegar.
Like your projects but talk too much, go to the subject of the video, the locked engine, and do it!
I tried iodine on a B JD. Filled both cylinders full and after a few weeks it was still stuck too tight. Good Luck though...
We just scoped it earlier today and you can see it bubbling so it must be doing something but yeah. John Deere's are super hard to get unstuck I've tried many many many things it's the way the cylinder sit I don't think stuff soaks in as well being that they sit horizontal not vertical
I had a buddy working on a JD 60 that was stuck quite a few years ago that sat for many years, He put 2 come alongs on the side belt pulley and filled the cylinders with oil and kept tension on it and every few weeks he kept reversing them to put the tension the opposite direction, and every so often he would try to just rock the tractor back and forth, and after about a year or so it finally broke lose and he got it running.
White vinegar works
I've heard that I might try that next
I've never tried it out. I've had old guys tell me to use coke a cola
If this don't work I want to see what you guys do with olive oil I can't believe that work.
My lack of patience allows me to wait only so long for penetrants to work....then out comes the cut down fence post and the SLEDGE HAMMER. 😡
Fill the cylinders with Coke have use successfully on 2 old 2 cylinder John Deere
Vintage
Crazy D!!! Be aware, somebody maybe will try strange tools on your tractors. :)
LOL yeah the wizardhe asked me if he could use the little cub in his video I didn't know he was going to go around and round off bolts LOL
@@CrazyDEquipment maybe he asked for the little cub because he was afraid of the big ones :)
Babbling stops around 9mins in.
Pour diesel fuel in the cylinder head
A friend used bleach
Doc needs wear a ball cap with Ford tractor on it
Too long winded and that was not iodine. Iodine is brown in color.
Not all iodine is brown and yes it was iodine my friend
@@CrazyDEquipment Ah okay, sorry.
That's okay man hey thanks for coming in and watching the video
@@CrazyDEquipment You may want to try cod liver oil. It frees up my joints and may work on your tractor engine😜
I've used the iodine that he has there the blue little bottles it's not cheap s*** but it worked got a f12 Farmall running again after it's been sitting outside for 20 years I think these guys do a pretty damn good job at their videos I got quite a few of them all different quality of video some of them are really good some of them ain't so great but they're all slightly entertaining if not quite entertaining
Wd40 is good
Coke
I had good luck with Coca cola In my Farmall A
If you pull start it using a diesel running on recycled cooking oil, you could call it "The fries and a coke treatment?" Even if it didn't work, it would be a good day.
You never answered the basic question... Did it work or not? What a waste of my time! Your video reminds me of the song " little less talk and a lot more action".
First thing this is only part one of the video there's a second part apparently you weren't paying attention because I clearly state that in the video thank you for coming in and watching
Souns like to me that anything will work but water. Anybody tried 100% H20?
Best thing I ever did was sell the 641L family Heirloom tractor. No antique to work on the every year when I want to mow or let it sit out in our 40 inch average rainfall climate even through one bad storm and have to change all the fluids. My wife hated it as I was always tinkering with it, new ignition parts, propane parts, charging system etc. She made me buy a new one, that's why I married her. Yes you can fix most anything on them for 20 bucks but it's the time. Nope not for me they can melt every last one of these back into nuggets. lol
Are you concerned about your health?
Why would I be I'm eighty pounds lighter than I was when I started this channelI feel great having fun living life to the fullest
Marcel Prick
i had a fordsson major from 72 i was stuck ,, 24% vinege and atf olie. mix. workt for me
Best way is to tear it all apart and do a motor job.